Wednesday Open Thread – February 15th

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE on earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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160 Responses to Wednesday Open Thread – February 15th

  1. ZurichMike says:

    Snowing like mad this morning, so I forced myself to have pancakes with real maple syrup for breakfast (no bacon, sadly).

    Will venture out at noon to have Indian food for lunch with a friend, then we’re going to see “Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy” at 2:30 pm.

  2. WeeWeed says:

    Hump day – halfway to the weekend! “A Tea Party Senate Takeover.”

  3. WeeWeed says:

    “Impeach Them All”

    “..We no longer have politicians with conscience or integrity. Why have Democrats and Republicans not stepped forward to admonish Obama for his extra-Constitutional acts? Why has someone not issued a cease and desist order backed up by the threat of impeachment hearings? Why do these elected fools stand by and watch the destruction of their country? Does no one have courage? Do principles not matter?”

  4. WeeWeed says:

    “Unequal Protection Under The Health Care Law”

    “..Seniors will wait longer for life-saving procedures like dialysis, heart surgery, or chemotherapy. Surgeries that improve quality of life like joint replacement will be denied outright. How can this not be the case when ObamaCare raids Medicare and steals $500 billion from it to be redistributed elsewhere?”

    • texan59 says:

      Prepare to die old people. Your government needs you to take one for the team. If you have worked hard your whole life and you are now sucking from the teat of SS and Medicare, we don’t need you. If you can figure out how to get on food stamps or some other freebie maybe we can keep you, but not for long.

      There was an article circulating the other day about knee replacements and how 20% of sheeple in the 45-64 age group have had these replacements. Just like the balloons were floated about mammograms and PSA tests before word came down from on High that we didn’t really need them. This money can be spent much better for our friends in the teachers union and SEIU. No mas, suckers.

      As Rush says, “Don’t doubt me on this”. :twisted:

    • tnwahm says:

      A couple of us have been debating with a leftist idiot on ‘Tilda’s FB page the last couple of days. He claims that rationing and death panels will not happen under Hellcare; that Soc. Sec; Medicare and Medicaid are not broke and that Medicaid should be the business model for healthcare. He also claims that he has friends in Europe that LOVE their system and wouldn’t want to change it.

      • freedom1781 says:

        Where the he11 does this guy live–Unicornland? Does he live with his head in the clouds or stuck in the sand?! Can he not think for himself? When the @3!$ will people wake up?!! What will it take?!

        • barnslayer says:

          You can’t convince somebody if they refuse to accept facts.

        • stellap says:

          He thinks we are ignorant idiots, though I think we are gaining ground, as he has actually conceded a couple of points in a back-handed way. Of course, we provided evidence, which he did his best to ignore. I think he did his own investigation and found out that we were correct!

          • tnwahm says:

            His latest claim is that Jesus is a liberal. I can’t wait for his definition.

            • stellap says:

              I really am not going to waste any more time with him. I think he’s trying to get us to stay – that’s why his claims are getting more outrageous. I’ll bet anything that nobody else will argue politics with him any longer. He’s not a very good debater, and insults his opponents.

              • tnwahm says:

                When you don’t have truth on your side; all you can do is try to insult.

                One of my dh’s cousins posted this article yesterday with the tag-line of “Interesting thoughts from a proud left-winger!”

                I commented with; “I don’t understand how you can accuse people who want all Americans to succeed of being racist when it’s the ‘left-wingers’ that are constantly dividing people into groups of victims. What does it say about the individuals who are saying that certain groups ~African-America, women, gays, Latinos~ can’t succeed without help from the all benevolent government?”

                She answered with a diatribe on how she’s not a racist because her daughter is engaged to a “fine young black man” and that she already has grandkids that are 1/2 Mexican. She then went on to say that since we are family that maybe we shouldn’t discuss politics because she didn’t want to get anymore heated than she was.

                Long story short; she tried the bleeding heart ruse about Democrats being the party that cares about the poor and that we ~as religious people~ should quit being so tight-fisted and help the poor because we all are headed that direction because of Bush and Republican polices. I posted a few facts about Warren Buffett ~his tax evasion~ and Biden with his generous charitable giving. She replied about an hour ago with that we weren’t going to change each other’s mind, that she didn’t have time to look up facts to “win an argument” and that we probably shouldn’t talk politics anymore. She then went on to continue her tirade on Republicans and ended with that she didn’t ask my opinion and doesn’t want to hear it anymore.

                I replied with “How silly of me. I thought the purpose of posting an article on FB was to inform and discuss. I guess not.”

                Liberals don’t want to be bothered with the facts. They just want to feel good about their good intentions.

                The trickle up poverty of this administration is working so well, isn’t it?

                • tnwahm says:

                  The last paragraph about trickle-up poverty was part of my original comment to her. I think it was last week that she posted a cartoon making fun of Reagan and trickle-down economics. I commented with the line about trickle-up poverty.

                • stellap says:

                  I have relatives like that too. I block them from my Home page. I don’t “unfriend” them.

                  • tnwahm says:

                    What’s funny is that this is one of dh cousins that I have never met. He has 41 first cousins and this is one that he’s maybe met once. I’m not going to block or defriend her. She can on her part, but I like pushing her hot buttons. What’s funny is that one of her real life friends asked after one of her tirades; “Why do you hate Republicans?”

              • Y’all are doing a fine job with him!

                I think he really doesn’t have much to do besides debate politics on the FB. And you’re right, I bet no one will really debate him. Plus, this way it’s an easier conversation to follow as opposed to on a HuffPo, etc. I don’t think he really has any “friends” that don’t think exactly like him.

                He does get insulting, so if he gets over the line let me know and I’ll warn him. I’ve been reading here and there, mostly what you guys say.

          • freedom1781 says:

            Kudos to all of you who debate libs on Facebook. I don’t think I could handle it.

            I’m a member of private mommies blog. We used to have a debate thread. Most of the time we’d debate silly stuff, but when the ’08 election came around it was all politics, all the time. We tried to be civil and I thought we did a really good job of that. You can imagine the liberal crap that was put on the threads. There were 2 libs that would constantly goad me into heated arguments. I’d politely present the facts and to make it “fair & balanced,” I wouldn’t link any politically-biased sites. I’d get sharp-tongued responses, which is what I’d expected. Sometimes, I’d leave the blog feeling deflated, feeling like I just wasted a bunch of time, but then I’d log back on a few days later and my private message box would be filled with kudos from debate-shy mommies. I always felt better. There was a lib who would always come to my defense when the others would gang up on me. She and I always appreciated what we both brought to the conversation. She didn’t believe me when I brought up the right-wing terrorist memo information from the DHS. When I linked the site along with the memo, she freaked out and really started paying attention. When we conservatives started bitchin’ about Obama, the administrators shut down the debate thread over the claim that the whole purpose of the blog was to bring us together and not tear us apart. Yeah. Sure. Whatever. :roll:

    • Patriot Dreamer says:

      Right out of Zeke Emanuel’s (Rahm’s brother) playbook.

  5. WeeWeed says:

    “Eric Holder’s Protection of Voter Fraud”

    “..also apparently racist are current photo identification requirements for all Americans that include cashing checks; opening a bank account; boarding airline flights; purchasing firearms; driving automobiles; buying alcohol and tobacco products; renting/buying property; purchasing prescription drugs; applying for food stamps; applying for welfare; applying for a bank loan; applying for a job; and using a credit/debit card.”

    • YTZ4Me says:

      But of course.
      Here in VA, there are all kinds of ahem, “disadvantaged” residents who live and work in VA, send their kids to the local public schools, but have Maryland tags on their cars because MD has far less stringent requirements for a driver’s license and/or car registration. So, they get to live here, enjoy all the benefits of lower tax/cost VA but without paying state income tax and dodging the car tax as well. Oh, and if you happen to correlate the increase in crime with the increase of residents who have MD tags, then you are rayciss, even if the timing and statistics back up your assertions.

      But don’t say anything about the line up of MD tags on cars in the drop-off line at the local school or you will end up attracting the ire of the local authorities, who will then write you $90 tickets for minor infractions for EVERYTHING. And a military decal is just a lightening rod for “special attention”.

      • GracieD says:

        Yatz, we had to deal with that with Katrina Refugees. Our crime rate went up, and remains higher than normal because too many of them do not want to go back to N. O.
        Now we lock our doors and set the alarm, where pre-Katrina we did not need to.

        • YTZ4Me says:

          Yep. We have had several home invasions and two attempted armed robberies at our local grocery store, as well as a carjacking/rape of a young mother from the Target parking lot. Not too mention that the scenic rural roads around the area now are littered to such a disheartening extent they look like the Mall after Teh Won’s inauguration. But none of them are ever available for community road or stream clean up days.

          A large percentage who have moved in and use the MD dodge are Hispanics, who I am extrapolating, are not legal, since proof of legal residency is required for a DL/Tag in VA.
          They also tend to have their children enrolled in high-cost per pupil based classes (ESOL, Special Ed, Subsidized school lunch, Subsidizes athletic/extracurricular activities and on and on and on….) But pointing out that legal residency in the District is a requirement for enrollment makes you a target for their enablers.

        • tnwahm says:

          My sister lives in Houston. The same thing has happened with them post-Katrina.

        • Zauber says:

          And, as an ex-NOLA law enforcement guy, I wish to convey to you all our deepest gratitude and profound thanks for not trussing them up and sending them back with no return address attached. We got enough trouble with the ones who followed the Federal trail of bread crumbs back. And to the great people-heatsinks of Atlanta and Hosuton: SUKUHS, you touched ‘em last, they’re yours.

    • texan59 says:

      I have worked in the Medicaid world for the last 4+ years. I have yet to encounter anyone who has not had some form of photo ID. That would entail dealing with more than 2000 different individuals. Some of those folks had ID from a previous State as they may have moved recently, but they had a photo ID. This action from Holdup is nothing but thug behavior masquerading as sympathy for the vunnables. I call BS and would hope that every State this pissant goes after sue him right back and take it to the Courts. Every one of these cases will be overturned at some level above the State based on precedence. I know that every time Holdup goes to court he is spending our money, but at least it’s one more dollar he can’t spend on some other thug activity. :(

      • tnwahm says:

        I have used this info about having to have ID for Medicare and Medicaid in debates about the photo ID here in TN. For some reason they never have an answer for it.

  6. YTZ4Me says:

    “We need a Fiscal Crimes Tribunal” ……

    • texan59 says:

      Good read. The only frustrating thing I find in articles like this is that there is never any mention about how much some of these people spend to get o-t-g.

  7. texan59 says:

    A nice piece on who will hopefully be our next Senator from the great State of TX – Ted Cruz.

  8. texan59 says:

    Here come the libs exposing the conspiracy of the right on glo-bull warming.

    I guess this means it’s ok if they spend millions of enlightened donor money to push this caca, but if we try to get the word out it is evil. No doubt this will be spewed by the lsm.

  9. texan59 says:

    The myth of “free” healthcare. I know this is preaching to the choir.

  10. G8rmom7 says:

    Just a quick note…I added a long but very inspiring story about my friend Julia and her little adopted boy JiaHao in the Prayer Request thread. Thanks to all who have been praying for him…really amazing!

  11. Wraith says:

    Was it something I said? :?

  12. freedom1781 says:

    Dempsey says status quo still possible on nukes

    “…the administration is weighing a reduction of up to 80 percent in the number of deployed weapons….”

    • texan59 says:

      Well, that certainly doesn’t help my self-esteem when it comes to my stellar undrgrad career! Sounds like a pretty well rounded young man. :D

      • WeeWeed says:

        Yer undergrad career was Chinese? Mine was accounting…..somewhere along the line I discovered I hate it. He might, too, with his……. one of these days puberty’s gonna smack him….

        • texan59 says:

          Let’s see…. I don’t even remember what my first stab at a major was. Then started at the top in bidness scrool with accounting – sucked. Finance – sucked. Ended up with a Mgmt. degree and couldn’t even manage my checkbook at the time! Guess that’s why I’m in sales now. :lol: :lol:

  13. Gallup: 85% of small businesses not hiring

    Among those who do not plan to hire — 85% of the entire sample — almost half of all such businesses cited expected costs from health care coverage and government regulation:

    Obummercare strikes again.

  14. Proposed Obama budget includes surge in tax hikes

    Fish gotta swim,
    birds gotta fly,
    Dems gotta tax

  15. freedom1781 says:

    Extent of Va. GOP’s right turn is clear

    The libs in the office are seething today, especially over the drug testing for welfare recipients.

    • WeeWeed says:

      Geaux, VA!!! Drug testing should be mandatory for all takers. Us producers are getting very fed up….

    • stellap says:

      I was talking with a woman at the office today, who doesn’t label herself politically. We both agreed that women who have more than one (maybe two) children out of wedlock must agree to sterilization or they lose their welfare/ADC benefits. We also agreed that anyone receiving benefits should work in order to collect – pick up trash along the road or in the park, clean bathrooms in public building, etc. She believes that abortion should be allowed for welfare recipients, but I’ll talk to her about the constitutional considerations. Her thinking is that it is preferable to paying benefits for 18 years. She is socially not conservative, obviously.

  16. Obama Pushes Global Minimum Tax in Milwaukee

    This is how we’re supposed to Win The Future? WTF?

  17. Angry Patients Stuck With Big Medical Bills After “Bait And Switch”

    When “free” is not really “free”.

    • texan59 says:

      I’m gonna be the bad guy here. This guy had about $450 in bills after a preventive procedure turned into a diagnostic procedure. Two things.

      1) Read your policy.

      2) If you can’t pay out $450 in hospital bills over time you have other issues that I’m not gonna deal with.

      This is why healthcare is so expensive. No one wants to pay for anything anymore. You have to be an active participant in your health. People put more time into researching what car to buy and how much to pay for it than they do about their health, doctor, or healthcare.

      BTW, it wasn’t a bait and switch as the media likes to portray it. In short, this would be the same thing as going in for an angiogram and the doc saying that you needed to have bypass surgery right now. Lot of risk every time someone is put under. Looking at this guy, he would be high risk any time he comes in contact with anesthesia.

  18. freedom1781 says:


    DHS Touts Their Work Stopping “Thousands of Unsafe Hair Dryers” From Entering Country…

  19. PC word of the day is:


  20. moe2004 says:

    My son got his drivers license today, is it wrong I wanted him to fail? Lots of worry ahead…

    • barnslayer says:

      Congratulations! You just got a personal chauffeur. Have him drive you around on errands. He’s still learning. My advice, be mindful of not just where he drives but who’s gonna be there (in the car) with him. You know him way better than anyone here.

      • moe2004 says:

        He’s a good kid my Samuel is, came home early on New Years, did not like what was going on around him and admitted it! That never would have happened to my poor parents with me, I’m a lucky Mom.

    • stellap says:

      Congratulations! I agree with Barn. Just an add – try not to remember what you did when you first got your license (or maybe it would be a good thing; only you know for sure).

  21. Pierce County Sheriff buys plots to prevent Josh Powell from being buried near slain boys

    Sad that this is necessary. :(

    Thanks Sheriff!

  22. Does Contraception Really Pay For Itself?

    Some truth from NPR on how religious institutions are primarily self-insuring? Who’d a thunk it???

  23. WeeWeed says:

    So, I’m busy. But here’s today’s email of the day!


    Blessed are those that can give without remembering, and take without forgetting.

    One day a florist went to a barber for a haircut. After the cut, he asked about his bill, and the barber replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you, I’m doing community service this week.’ The florist was pleased and left the shop.

    When the barber went to open his shop the next morning, there was a ‘thank you’ card and a dozen roses waiting for him at his door.

    Later, a cop comes in for a haircut, and when he tries to pay his bill , the barber again replied, ‘I cannot accept money from you, I’m doing community service this week.’ The cop was happy and left the shop.
    The next morning when the barber went to open up, there was a ‘thank you ‘ card and a dozen donuts waiting for him at his door.

    Then a Senator came in for a haircut, and when he went to pay his bill , the barber again replied, ‘I can not accept money from you. I’m doing community service this week.’ The Senator was very happy and left the shop.
    The next morning, when the barber went to open up, there were a dozen politicians lined up waiting for a free haircut.

  24. Solaratov says:

    Interesting (considering the source)………………..

  25. texan59 says:

    Anyone else hear about the “Kerry Kickback”? Over $3B to Mass. hospitals from Obamacare.

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