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I've No More Tongue To Bite ……

Some will say: “What if they fire O’Mara and you’re wrong”?
To which I respond: “What if they don’t and I’m right”? ……….Which is worse?
Much of what we flesh out upon this site is passionate debate in an ongoing conversation; it ain’t a speech and no voice is stronger than another.  Nothing wrong with that.   Nor is there any opposition on my end to intellectual debate so long as the precepts for the conversation are based on facts and truths.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, there is no judgement here because just as sure as the neighbors will hear us screaming at each other tonight, tomorrow we might just be listening to their airing out the house too.
It is a big solid Tree with a dense thick trunk, deep roots and a massive canopy.   Just look at the prayer thread to see the comforting shade available to envelop you and protect you when you need it.   Heck, many of us even learn to spit here.
When Mark O’Mara first stepped onto the scene in the George Zimmerman case, April 10th, I watched intently and deferred opinion in favor of research.  And when I say research, I mean R.E.S.E.A.R.C.H.  deep vetting research. Y’all know how we roll.
When O’Mara took to the airwaves on April 11th, to discuss the charge of 2nd degree murder, I watched:

“I intend to get up to speed quickly” – Mark O’Mara (more…)

7/6 George Zimmerman Case – Open Discussion Thread

Use this thread as an open thread just for Zimmerman Case stuff. A place to just dump, collect, or discuss general information about the Trayvon Martin VS George Zimmerman Case.

REMINDER – Please WATCH THE TONE and CONTENT of Commentary. Please be respectful, courteous and considerate of other readers and contributors. Please avoid hatespeak, angry rhetoric, vulgarity, personal attacks and condescension. If you wish to engage in vitriolic, racist, or bitter angry rhetoric, there are alternative sites on the internet more than welcoming to such considerations. But not here. Thank You.

Friday Open Thread – July 6th

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.
For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

Free Advice – FWIW

I’m nobody, and this is just my opinion.   Disregard it, take it with a grain of salt, consider it irrelevant.  I’m certainly not in your shoes, but for what it’s worth:

George, STAY IN JAIL !  – Sometimes the worst thing you can give your opposition is exactly what they want.  The entire bond construct, including restrictions, are beyond ridiculous and absurd.
Save your money, stay in jail.   Take control and use the situation to your advantage.    Use the money you would have spent on freedom to hire a media team to get the truth out.   Frame your own narrative.   Yeah, you have $211,000 to defend yourself against the onslaught, but tell your story. (more…)

Lester VS. Zimmerman Bond Decision….. "Advanced Lessons In Judicial Railroading"


Judge Lester is specifically and intentionally using his power to manipulate the Orlando court system, in a flawed ideological effort to avoid being on the wrong side of those political forces who can bring him down.  It appears George Zimmerman is being set up to fail with the current Bond Ruling.


The Judicial Order establishing bond has been structured and worded with the specific intent of “using” the legal system to produce a  “desired outcome” (key words “using” and “desired”).
IMHO  –  Representation from “outside” Seminole County is needed asap, and serious consideration should be given to keeping GZ in jail for the moment.   Safer ten-fold. (more…)

Bumper Sticker Of The Day…

Zimmerman Granted New Bond – Amount Set at $1 Million

A Florida judge today ordered George Zimmerman, who is charged with fatally shooting Trayvon Martin, free on $1 million bond, the Orlando Sentinel reports.
Zimmerman would be required to put up 10% to be freed. It was not immediately clear how long it would take for him to leave jail.
Update at 11:41 a.m. ET:  The Sentinel notes that Zimmerman’s lawyer, Mark O’Mara, has said that his client’s legal defense fund has a balance of $211,000, which would more than meet the 10% required to put up a $1 million bond.

https://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/07/judge-to-decide-whether-george-zimmerman-will-be-freed-on-bond/1
Judge Lester’s written Order:  https://www.scribd.com/doc/99210750/Zimmerman-Bail
Pertinent details of the Judge’s Order highlighted in yellow with commenatary by Treeper commenter/attorney It’sMichaelNotMike:
https://litigationuniverse.com/Bond1MOrderMyHighlights.pdf
Mark O’Mara had noted in the second bond hearing he felt that the prosecution’s case was weak, and that Zimmerman had a strong claim to self-defense, and to keep him jailed until his trial would be unreasonable.
The original bail amount of $150,000 was viewed by many in the law enforcement community of Florida to be excessive, in light of what bond amounts are set for similar crimes.  The extremely high bar set for the second bail signals two things: (a) it is punishment for misrepresentation to the court about his finances and ability to fund a bail bond (which is improper, IMV) and (b) it demolishes the State’s claim that their case is strong, and Zimmerman will be found guilty.  It is up to the State to disprove Zimmerman’s self-defense claims “beyond a reasonable doubt”, and the Judge apparently no longer feels the State’s case is “strong” as he originally stated in his decision to revoke bond on June 1st.
As a result of the generosity of people concerned with due process, Zimmerman does have immediate access to enough cash in his defense fund to quickly arrange a new bond, and be released as soon as it is safe and prudent for him to do so.

7/5 George Zimmerman Case – Open Discussion Thread

Anticipated Thursday – Judge Lester is expected to announce his Bond Hearing decision – If you catch it while we are off line please post in the comments. Not sure the exact time of anticipated ruling release.

Use this thread as an open thread just for Zimmerman Case stuff. A place to just dump, collect, or discuss general information about the Trayvon Martin VS George Zimmerman Case.

REMINDER – Please WATCH THE TONE and CONTENT of Commentary. Please be respectful, courteous and considerate of other readers and contributors. Please avoid hatespeak, angry rhetoric, vulgarity, personal attacks and condescension. If you wish to engage in vitriolic, racist, or bitter angry rhetoric, there are alternative sites on the internet more than welcoming to such considerations. But not here. Thank You.

US Healthcare Predicted In One Example: Man, 22, who died from dehydration in hospital rang police for a drink of water

Death By Socialism – A 22 year old who died from dehydration whilst in hospital was so desperate for a drink of water he phoned the police from his bed for help, an inquest has been told.
UK Telegraph – Kane Gorny’s mum Rita Cronin told an inquest into her son’s death that when the police turned up at St George’s Hospital, Tooting, they were turned away by doctors and she was repeatedly ignored by staff when she begged for help for her son.

Giving evidence at the first day of a four-day inquest, she revealed how she received a distressed phone call from her son the day after his operation, in which he revealed he had called the police because he was so desperate for a drink.
The inquest heard Ms Cronin immediately went to the hospital, where Kane was “confused and angry,” shouting at staff and behaving in an uncharacteristic abusive manner. (more…)