♦ Some people just can’t take a win. For the “I need to be outraged” group I would suggest their best time for complaining would be to join the collective association of the tech crew (Musk/Thiel), the alligator emojis (DeSantis/Cruz Crew) and the CONservative free traders (Massie, Paul, Roy). That group of always unhappy, whining and never satisfied knuckleheads will welcome the griping, bitching and moaning.
However, that doesn’t work here. We have a big win to celebrate.
♦ The Senate version of the previously passed Big Beautiful Bill cuts more spending than originally delivered from the House. You might ask why then did spending opposition narratives surface now and not when it passed through the House? Good question, we’ll get to that ‘political answer’ in a moment.
For now, the BBB is on track as it was originally planned (by July 4th); albeit right at the outer limits of the predicted timeframe that was announced in January.
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The Senate BBB passed on a 50-50 vote split, highlighting it was the most conservative bill that could possibly squeak through the Senate. It is the culmination of MAGA interests -vs- MAGA opposition, with the biggest win being the $70 billion for border security and ongoing deportation operations.
The original plan was always to use rescission bills to cut out the DOGE waste. Per Senate rules, the rescissions/cuts cannot be done until after the initial funding bill is passed (that’s BBB). Timeline: July – BBB, Aug – Rescission bills to cut DOGE waste {examples}, and Sept – FY 2026 Budget bill which begins October 1st.
Additionally, the narrative about the Senate bill including Medicaid spending for illegal aliens is false.
♦ The ban on Medicaid for illegal aliens is actually stronger than initially thought [See page 602. Section 77109]. As noted by Senator Schmidt, “the bill actually goes much further than the house version – beyond banning Medicaid for 1.4 million illegal aliens, it: • Requires states to verify citizenship status before providing coverage • Bans automatic Medicaid enrollment for children of illegal aliens • Excludes DACA from Medicaid.”
♦ This brings me to the “political opposition” aspect.
The declared “spending opposition” to the bill is actually a cover narrative for those who demand expanded immigration (Wall Street) and stand against border control and deportation.
They are angry about the immigration enforcement aspect but must remain quiet about it because so many Americans support the border security part. So, the CONservatives and Tech bros attack based on spending, but that’s really just a Mick “Cantaloupes” Mulvaney maneuver.
In addition to destroying the “Green New Deal” fiasco, the Big Beautiful Bill gives $70 billion to President Trump to secure the border and get rid of criminal illegal aliens. The border security money is needed to exit the illegal aliens who Obama/Biden imported. Money for more ICE agents and repatriation flight costs.
The border wall needs to be finished and all measures to ensure the total lockdown. Trump is securing the border, the first step in any immigration reform effort. This was Ronald Reagan’s biggest mistake. If congress now wants to discuss what comes next after the criminal illegal aliens & Biden illegal aliens are removed…. with a secure border, that conversation is now possible.
♦ Spending? Congress and the media have a vested interest in hiding the truth from the American public because factually everything in the BBB is fully funded. I know, I know, many people are saying, “wait, fully funded? How is that possible?”
Here’s the part everyone keeps missing. Within the global trade reset President Trump has established a baseline 10% tariff. That means from this moment until the end of time every country will pay a minimum of 10% tariffs on every single import. Even if they get a free trade agreement (FTA) with the U.S. the baseline 10% remains, just like the U.K. deal recently completed.
Yes, steel and aluminum and other targeted tariffs may exceed the baseline 10%, but the baseline will always remain at 10% for everything imported. There will never be an item delivered to the USA that does not include a 10% baseline tariff.
That baseline 10% tariff revenue -in perpetuity- funds the BBB spending and all of the associated middle-class tax relief within it. Tariff revenues create a neutral state of spending impact. This fact is why and how the White House convinced the House and Senate on the deal.
In material fact, even a future Democrat political apparatus will never be able to discontinue the 10% baseline tariffs because they will be dependent on the revenue generated. Tariff revenue makes spending possible, that stops Democrats from withdrawing it. In a way President Trump has lowered the income tax burden by shifting revenue to tariffs.
Elon Musk is a disgruntled Tech Bro who: (A) doesn’t like tariffs; (B) is worried about the new visa reviews and H-1B limits under Marco Rubio; (C) angered about the elimination of his Green New Deal subsidies; and is (D) directly attached to and dependent on China. Plus, wait to see the value loss in Palantir if Trump and Putin strike a deal. Musk is an evil person.
There is a massive amount of winning within this deal. Just remember, the better something is the more the opposition will use all the tools and puppets at their disposal to keep you from realizing its value.
CNN asked me “Why is @ElonMusk wrong about the Big Beautiful Bill?”
My answer. pic.twitter.com/lKoNeNTWrz
— James Fishback (@j_fishback) July 1, 2025
Big wins today.
Huge.


I’m not going to pretend that I have a fully comprehensive understanding of everything that is contained in this bill, & that it doesn’t have a load of pork that I would fully oppose; but what I will say is that the more I hear of the disapproval of it by RINO’s & Lib’s the more I feel we’re right over the target.
Yes sir, to the moon
Not to Mars?!?!?!
Until Sept 2030 macro market peak… then Great Depression time window from 2031-2034…. My target is 10,347 for Sept 2030 final market top…. After Aug 1st market bottom…. Great Depression was locked in by Jerome Powell long ago… T-268 weeks until Great Depression starts…
1st John 4:10
I most appreciate our host using the correct legal identifier: Illegal Aliens.
That’s exactly what they are under US statute.
Not migrants. And not undocumented. Illegal. Aliens.
They all need to leave. Again, under US statute.
Yes. USC 8.
This video was one of my major motivations to push awareness to other Heritage Americans and to get on the Buchanan America First campaign back in 96.
Americans Ambushed: Immigration Rally, July 4th, 1996
https://rumble.com/v19nz8g-americans-ambushed-immigration-rally-july-4th-1996.html
That Dice video you posted earlier today was killer. Wasn’t this video the La Raza Brown Berets?
Yes couz. I made copies of this on audio and their booklets and passed them all over the place back then. The California Coalition For Immigration Reform were very astute and clever with catching these Brown Klan racists on audio and video. Their membership had White,Black,Yellow,Brown, and Red members, this also enabled them to infiltrate their La Raza racist meetings and tape them.
Mexico’s “Reconquista” — We Have Been Warned
https://www.amren.com/news/2019/05/reconquista-hispanic-anti-white-racism/
Communists are not very smart. But it is about the grift. They all plan on becoming millionaires on our dimes. Send them home. Let them try their act in their destroyed homelands.
Jayapals face looks like it fell from a dirty diaper
Good description
Don’t forget about the foreign judges.
I am very curious why this Constitutional Republic allows FOREIGN-BORN to run and sit in PUBLIC OFFICE?
Does anyone know if this question has been asked and answered, because I do not recall reading or studying it in my lifetime.
Just very curious, that’s all.
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Was left to the states to send their (assumed temporary) representatives and senators to Congress.
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I’m not as concerned about “foreign born” as I am about lack of naturalization and remaining foreign loyalties… Those are non-starters for me.
I’d say a foreign born U.S. citizen might be able to serve in elected office provided they’ve been naturalized for a minimum of 20 years and exhibit an accurate understanding of U.S. Constitution laws and U.S. immigration law. Heck, a lot of our existing Congressmen and Senators couldn’t pass that requirement….
Our Founding Fathers couldn’t have imagined this Republic as it is today. That’s why.
So true. It is why they made the government somewhat entangled and slow to move. They also wanted the Federal Government to be much smaller than it is now. We need to eliminate much of Washington DC. We will know we have succeeded when the richest counties in the US are sprinkled around the country instead of located a stones throw from the Capitol.
Che Guevara wasn’t particularly fond of Mestizo types or anyone darker than Sen. Rubio if memory serves.. not exactly who I would have picked to be the visual for my band of Mexican/Chicano communist footsoliders, but who am I to judge?
Yeah , Che was a genuine POS .
Under my breath (Felons…).
👽👽👽 🦵
President Trump told a reporter today (when asked about Musk being *issed) that “we might have DOGE look at Musk’s subsidies; maybe we will find out more that he will not like very much or something along those lines…….
This is all good news.
So, now I hope the detractors will move along to another site to spew forth or just be quiet if they are here reading.
LOL!!
No just you!
💅
Did you even read a thing above?
I doubt it
Read what Sundance wrote instead of showing your ignorance.
it will take time to eliminate the world’s dependency on counterfeiting. maybe it will never happen, but to do it humanely will take more time than Trump has in office.
Oh my. That’s some next level delusional thinking right there.
Be careful when you show your fanny Elon… 😉
Speaking of ‘Fanny’…whatever happened to her and her lawsuit?
This was as of March 17:
FULTON COUNTY, Ga. – Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis reportedly has just one month to pay over $54,000 in attorney’s fees, according to court documents.
Fani Willis was disqualified from prosecuting the Trump case and was ordered to pay more than $54,000 in attorney fees for violating Georgia’s Open Records Act, according to court documents.
She’s currently fighting the subpoena to appear in a Senate committee hearing to testify about her questionable finances in that case against Trump, which is in limbo now that he’s President.
https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2025/06/13/fulton-da-fani-willis-subpoena-dispute-heading-georgia-supreme-court/
I’ve tried to ignore the noise like the special deals Murkowski got and open to what Sundance just told us. Luckily (or unfortunately) I’ve had so many other fires happening in my life it’s been easy to ignore.
So, YAY for President Trump and MAGA. I’m waiting for noticeable improvements in the economy which will reflect on the company I work for to see the benefits.
This is an historic, conservative bill, the most America First piece of legislation to pass in my lifetime, and that takes into account the tenure of the great Ronald Reagan. It’s also a defining bill in that one can honestly question those who are so adamantly opposed to it. The Democrats, I understand. If the President came up with a way to part the seas with a wave of his hand, they’d rage about the devastating impact on marine life. You can’t win with those people and America will win when they’re winnowed out of office.
But Paul, Tillis, Musk…they know what is in this bill, and what it will do not only to reinvigorate the middle class, but to jump start the American economy. These are not stupid people so one can honestly ask – why so adamantly against it? Perhaps, as in Tillis’ case, it’s time for a new perspective, namely, the perspective they would gain looking at things as civilians, rather than Washington denizens.
And Elon? America has been good to him, great in fact. As I’ve mentioned before, this bill was about the country as a whole, not just Elon. A tantrum here and there can be excused, he’s mercurial, I get it, billionaires are supposed to be “eccentric.” But at this point, he is wearing out his welcome.
Donald Trump is a big-hearted and forgiving man, but push him too far and you will “Find Out”.
J
A Democrat WISE????
ROFLMAO!!!
Hey, even a clock strikes 12 occasionally. ☺️
LOL 😆 🤣 😂 ! Thanks for the laugh….
No tax on tips, overtime, social security; welfare work requirements; illegals thrown off Medicaid (perhaps now is a good time to self deport home?); deductions for interest paid on purchasing American-made cars; full funding for border security…
What on earth did you imagine conservatives wanted??
J
I think they believe we want electric cars. lol
One better, let’s go to wind up cars, when it stops get out and rewind it.
Welfare work requirements were removed.
No tax on social security was removed.
Illegals not getting medicaid was removed.
The senate screwed the bill with their rinos BS
This bill is just rino bull crap.
Welfare work requirements were removed.
No tax on social security was removed.
Illegals not getting medicaid was removed.
The senate screwed the bill with their rinos BS
It’s not for fictitious/uni-party “conservatives,” it’s for Trump and his MAGA supporters.
Welfare work requirements were removed.
No tax on social security was removed.
Illegals not getting medicaid was removed.
The senate screwed the bill with their rinos BS
If problems are solved, congress becomes irrelevant, and congress fears “irrelevancy” more than anything; “We need war,” which requires endless push for funding of war. “We need green energy” ‘cause it’s sustainable dontcha know, which is more piggies wanting to eat at the trough. “We need more money for third-world countries”; whatever will they do without the 12 cents on the dollar they’re getting from us. And on and on and on they drone.
And then of course there’s the pet projects of bridges to nowhere, roads to nowhere, trains to nowhere, big corporation bailouts, general laundering of money to lobbyists.
I think you’re 100% correct..Trump has a big heart, but he’s nobody’s fool. 😊
The GOP are doing a lousy job messaging this bill. Elon found programs (USAID, etc) we’ve known about for years. Not sure I’ve seen a dollar figure about fraud – certainly not the 1-2 trillion he was talking about. As I understand it, this bill is not about recissions – cuts – but again, I wish they would message it clearly
I agree with you to an extent, Elizabeth, but in fairness, the message has gone out. Stephen Miller, for one, has been an incredible cheerleader about the details of this bill and how defining a win it is for conservatives. But as with all issues where there is a chance of Americans coming out on top, the state media will always drive the messaging of the Establishment first and foremost. It has ever been this way, which is why Rush Limbaugh was such a breath of fresh air. He went against what he called the “zeitgeist” of popular opinion and told it like it was, not as the Establishment wanted it projected.
Our best channels of messaging, as conservative patriots, is forums like this, and talk radio, and now even social media, and networking and sharing information. The moribund legacy media will always suggest that we’re losing even in the face of our greatest victories. Remember, the Des Moines Register published a poll that had Harris beating Trump in Iowa, two days before he trounced her by 13 points. And that is what we’re up against when it comes to messaging.
The state media, and its mockingbird tentacles, can never be our validation for what we know amongst ourselves to be true. A new information ecosystem is forming, and the Treehouse is representative of it. If you doubt that the word is getting out, just look at what the President did in the last election. As Scully and Mulder might have said, “The Truth is Out There.” 🙂
J
I am not convinced Tillis is that smart. I believe he was a “brown noser” in the corporate world. As a result, he worked his way up the ranks.
When Elmers was no longer able to win re-election, they chose Tillis for her seat. Easily manipulated, corporate brown noser.
His record is clearly not one of any type of brilliance or creative thought, but clearly functions as a guaranteed RINO vote. The only time he voted contrary to what was clearly being pushed by the RINO’s was when they didn’t need his vote for or against a bill they wanted. When they had a tight vote, he always voted with the RINOs.
His liberty score was in the 40% range. I big fail!! I’m so glad he will be gone. We need a true Conservative as his replacement.
Thanks for reading the article above so I don’t have to. /s
I am jumping up and down for this hard fought win.
Some people can not be pleased period. Don’t waste your time arguing with them. Smile and keep living your best life.
Now Elon, I appreciate the help during the campaign he gave, my hat is off to him for that. What I saw was somebody who got a little taste of executive power, and he lost his mind.
As far as his character, he is in zero maybe negative range. My opinion is a spoiled brat, in need of a good talking to behind wood shed.
Thanks Sundance for going into detail to help us further understand the
Big Beautiful WIN.
Nowhere else can you get honesty like here. I am looking at you CFP
Murkowski wants the House to send the bill back to the Senate so they can continue working on it. Slippery slope there. Don’t do it.
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Speaker Johnson Vows to Quickly Pass Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ After Senate Passage – But Murkowski Tries to Throw Wrench Into Plans
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/speaker-johnson-vows-quickly-pass-trumps-big-beautiful
She can stick her wrench where the sun hasn’t seen in 60 years
Murky-kowski is an abomination to her current station in life. Someone remind her that her actions affect every citizen of every State in the Union. She’s not a queen, but one of a hundred Senators.
Murkowski is the poster girl for term limits. I get it, she can’t imagine life outside the swamp, she doesn’t know what she’d do with herself. But Alaska will always have an asterisk next to its name, like California, as long as it continues to find a way to send the likes of Lisa Murkowski to the Senate. We’ll have to fumigate after she’s gone…
J
Thanks, Sundance.
I always liked good news.
It’s always easier to tell the good guys
from the bad guys with your help..
And once it is passed the House again and signed, we get tons of movement on Ukraine Russia and other foreign affairs that the Senate holds so closely to their evil hearts.
Some of the things aren’t as good as the House bill (a cap on tax on tips isn’t needed) but all is far better than what we have (tax on all tips currently).
Nothing in it is actually bad, even if most of it could be better.
Another big aspect that hasn’t been talked about, with DHS, DOD, and the Debt Limit raised, there is little to stop actual spending cuts in the budget. No more leverage because “we have to fund dhs, dod, and raise the debt limit so we gave dems everything they wanted!”
That is done with for the next budget.
It comes back to Sundance expose that is featured on the Presidential thread…”optimal”….
Thank you Sundance. Get the wins you can get, and keep on working for more wins every other day!
You can’t always get what you want!
“For the “I need to be outraged” group I would suggest their best time for complaining would be to join the collective association of the tech crew (Musk/Thiel), the alligator emojis (DeSantis/Cruz Crew) and the CONservative free traders (Massie, Paul, Roy). That group of always unhappy, whining and never satisfied knuckleheads will welcome the griping, bitching and moaning.”
Sounds like Palestine Chuck is not happy as well!
“Bessent: I admire Elon’s leadership on rockets. I will take care of the finances.
Kilmeade: He says $5 trillion is added to the deficit—you don’t agree?
Bessent: I don’t agree at all. This bill will set off growth like we have never seen before…And once you see the growth trajectory change to an upward bias, the bill more than pays for itself We could be in surplus.”
We would have to double the size of the economy to have enough to make up for the deficit.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Thanks be to God for this exceptional man.
Praise the Lord!
Thanks for your concern. 😆
Thank you. I’ll sleep better.
Let’s see who in the House wants to inflict a massive tax increase on Americans, whom they hate
Thank you for this analysis. It is invaluable to us to be able to reduce the propaganda and see the truth. MAGA
Thank you for explaining this. I am psyched!
we need no tax on wages
My gut tells me that the public feud between Trump and Musk is for optics sake.
Elon never wanted EV subsidies, saying that Tesla would be better without them. He’s said repeatedly in the past that the EV subsidy should end: “If you eliminated all EV incentives tomorrow, Tesla’s competitive position would improve significantly. I’ll say that again. If you eliminated all EV tax credits, Tesla’s position would improve immediately.”
The feud has theater vibes.
He will fight to the death for more H1-Bs. Oh & we can all go f ourselves in the face.
I have had the same thoughts. It feels like a World Wrestling script. The good guy, the heavy, betrayal, feuding clans, then it all comes together in a 10 man cage match.
Ok, give him his bill. Trump believes an economy on afterburners will get rid of the national debt and put America back on track. I suppose he believes this bill will start that process. There are good things in this bill. Has to be. It’s over 1000 pages. The green new deal shutdown. Not so fast. ‘Placed in service by 12-31-27’ has been changed to ‘placed in service by July 2030.’ Subsidies aren’t going away. Or am I missing something?
“Trump believes an economy on afterburners will get rid of the national debt .”
”Or am I missing something?”
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For starters, the fact that President Trump has never said that. Learn how to listen and read with comprehension.
He did read… His employer’s list of talking points.
I raise you: Europe will spend double on Defense… in 2032.
Horse-hit.
👏👏👏👏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🥳🥳🥳🥳💥💥💥💥⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🕺🏻🎄🎄🎄🎄🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻🎅🏻
Love it, Sundance. It is July 4th and Christmas all together. 🌭🍔⛄️🎅🏻🎄
In trying to guess why, as many in the media ask, John Thune does not fire the leftist parliamentarian, I surmise that the parliamenterian knows where the bones are buries. She knows who had an affair with whom, or knows who is guilty of criminal offenses.
I can only assume that Thune has plenty of bones that could be exposed, just investigate and find out where all the sexual harassment funding went during the early part of his DC career and how Turtle made sure it was covered up. Another reason for him to be gone yesterday.
She’s doing his bidding. He can’t be held responsible for her “ruling” & these are things he can’t vote for or get 50 votes for.
Anyone in South Carolina up for a road trip?
Nancy Mace apparently needs a lift!
She should drive… would probably only take around 7hrs.
B.S. – 9 HOUR DRIVE —> HOOF IT !
So she knew there was a possibility of having to vote, and she left town? 🙄
That’s what I was wondering WTH was she doing leaving DC
Any republican should have waited until at least Wednesday night or Thursday night
She’s on her way….
Praying to GOD in the name of Jesus for traveling mercies for her.
St. Christopher Patron Saint of Travelers…guard her travels…amen.
She’s going to hit some really rough weather. Prayers for her.
Great way to begin the month, in a MAGA way…..onward to prosperity, safety, and another 250 years!
God bless President Trump for the team with which he surrounded himself and ensured that our Republic will stand, in spite of the whiney leftists, media and RINOs!
I guess that Nancy Mace didn’t know that this week was the week the PDJT wanted the bill voted for and on his desk by July 4th.
It’s tough being a grown up.
“Both my flights to DC, one for tonight and one for early tomorrow morning have been canceled by the airline. *sigh*
Scrambling to find a way to get to DC in time to vote for the Big Beautiful Bill.”
“Scrambling to find a way”?
Try….driving.
It’s only 8 hrs!
I-95 not available???
B.S. – 9 HOUR DRIVE —> HOOF IT !
pretty sure Amtrak will do it
Oh, my goodness, Nancy dear! I would never judge you because you almost missed the vote! Who among us has never been the deciding vote on momentous legislation which our constituents elected us to enact, and has not waited until the last minute of our (long) weekend to try to arrive at the House on time? Judge not, judge not. It’s in the Bible!
Great overview.
Is it perfect? No way, not even close.
But it’s what a patriot, who has sacrificed everything he has, that shouldn’t even be alive absent many divine miracles, felt was the best we could do.
That is good enough for me.
I’m good with that as an Ultra-MAGA, more MAGA than PDJT.
BTW, you aren’t MAGA if your votes are +90% in alignment with the Marxists. Seriously, how can we tell the difference?
For the “I need to be outraged” group…..
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We don’t expect perfect, and won’t let demands for perfect stop the attainment of great good.
The Green New Deal subsidies were not removed from the bill. This is a mess of a deal from the Senate.
You need to learn the difference between “mandatory”:and “discretionary” appropriations in bills.
Why doesn’t President Trump or one of his surrogates start a voluntary contribution fund to assist in deportation of illegals?
To augment what Congress gave him.
There would be bake sales , phone-a-thons, dance-a-thons, raffles and all sorts of ingenious MAGA-supporter fund-raising activities. It could be YUGE!!!!
Stop waiting for the flippin Rinos and Commie Libs to solve the problem and pony-up our tax dollars.
Show CNN and all of the Dems how much the American people really ARE SERIOUS about deporting ALL of the illegal invaders! Prior to the 2030 census!!! For the freakin children!
Remember Rush’s bake sale years ago? Oh, what was it called? I think it was in Colorado…
And we could write if off on our taxes.
The Too Big To Rig Beautiful Bill
This MAGA 🎢 we are on is not for the squeamish!
Twists and turns — as we all hold on for the dear life of our country! 💕🇺🇲
Good. So tariffs will get us $2 Trillion over 10 years = $200 Billion per year.
We’re still $2 Trillion in annual deficits!
Even if we take 100% of the Phase 1 [my term] DOGE cuts, that’s $200 Billion.
So we still have a structural yearly deficit of $1.8 Trillion.
Elon isn’t 100% false. We’re spending $1 Trillion per year on interest payments on the debt! That number will likely get bigger.
President Trump suggested a 50% cut to the Military budget ($1 Trillion); but then suggests a Starwars Iron Dome project.
The spending never stops.
P.S. Argentina’s Milei slashed spending, brought inflation under control, and they’re now growing at a 5% rate.
I’ll feel better if:
– President Trump rescinds 90% of the DOGE suggested cuts ($180 Billion)
– DOGE identifies another $200 Billion (Phase 2)
Illegal alien hand-outs ending is addition to money kept for Americans.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/04/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-prevents-illegal-aliens-from-obtaining-social-security-act-benefits/
President Trump suggested Jerome Powell to reduce the interest rate and that would reduce our debt payment significantly – but NO, he will not lower the rates. Let the Fed do their fair share.
THIS!!!!!
the spending never stops in my household either!!!!!
>>> Big wins today.
Huge.
YUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sheinbaum announced she is going to make the Mexicans whole on the remittance tax.
thank you,mr.president.
I love to read what Sundance writes.
CTH is somewhat of an oasis – shallow currents of negativity and never-trumping aside. If this oasis were to have a second name it would be “Sanity”.
While I’m not in the room as often as I’d like, perhaps that will change before too long.
And while I’ve not even on one occasion found myself in disagreement with Sundance, I’d like to state something in this public forum that I don’t seem to ever hear with regard to the whole Trump vs. Elàn/(Hyperion?) drama.
Sundance, you said, “… strike a deal. Musk is an evil person.” I can’t go that far and this is why.
I am neither a defender nor a fan of Musk. In fact I have at most paid scant attention to the guy until the Mar-a-Lago dinners and the inception of DOGE.
It was not until February at the earliest that I learned that he had Asperger’s.
Everyone who has followed him since his announcement in 2015 knows the often told story. SOMEBODY PUNCHES TRUMP, TRUMP PUNCHES BACK HARDER.
Yet not this time. Not with Musk.
For those of us who have experienced the struggles of a family member with Asperger’s, it can be really gut wrenching at times.
From that odd parting (Musk & Ramaswamy) to the “home schooled boy who never learned to jump” (Butler) to the off the charts hubris and vengeance in those first tweets after moving out of the Lincoln bedroom … yikes, and not yikes.
In that, I saw something very familiar. Musk’s behavior all along, but especially at the end is just what a person can expect to encounter and on a rather regular basis when Asperger’s is part of the family dynamic.
President Donald John Trump didn’t punch back. He addressed it yes, but he didn’t lash out at Mr. Panache.
For nine plus years, we’ve had to listen to so much negativity about 45-47, his supposed lack of self-restraint having been a common theme. But there it was, shining brightly.
Betrayed in front of the whole world by a friend, someone who could stand – NOT AS AN EQUAL – but still who could stand on kind of an equal footing, a guy who is clearly brilliant … but with heavy duty issues: those among us who could see it saw something really profound, something really deep in Trump: GREAT COMPASSION. Being pretty much always in front of the cameras, you could see his internal struggle.
What a role model in all of this he’s been to the nation.
[Three things that I’ve said repeatedly since 2016:
– I LOVE TRUMP.
– TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP,TRUMP!
– ALWAYS TRUST TRUMP.]
I have been bounced off of (or harassed on) a number of other forums – including Truth Social ! ? !
Thank you Sundance for allowing me to finally say this in a very public way.
Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Thank you for CTH.
“Musk is an evil person.” -Sundance – Don’t lose sight of this as Musk tries to split MAGA with his own “American Party” to return the Democrats back to ruling all 4 branches of government!!! That would get all his visa workers and EV subsidies returned to pre 2025 levels or higher!!! JMO
it is obvious that Elon Musk got close to President Trump
for the purpose of saving the decades long scheme of
government subsidies to the tune of billions of dollars
for his company (companies?)
didn’t happen
we can now cease blaming Aspergers, etc. for his tantrums
Agree! I now believe it was his billions that led to the tantrums! Those with billions feel more equal than the rest of us especially those like me living off social security!!! JMO
Thank you for this wealth of information, Sundance. I will be sharing it abroad with many people who will be interested.
“Musk is an evil person.”
I couldn’t agree more! Thank you!
Most of the good stuff is in the bill the Senate just passed –a big win for MAGA.
You seem to have missed what is actually in it — read Sundance’s post at the top of the page.
(was replying to Chasman)
10% base line on all imports forever. Win!
Manufacturers move their companies to America to avoid tariffs. Win!
From Townhall:
As Leah wrote, Vice President JD Vance broke the 50-50 tie as Sens. Susan Collins (R-ME), Rand Paul (R-KY), and Thom Tillis (R-NC) defected. There are a handful of other Republicans who could cause trouble, but that’s for another day.
One of the losers is on the way out. Let’s get the other two out as well. I am fed up with Libertarian Rand Paul’s fake grandstanding. I guess the POS wants my taxes to go up.
POTUS needs to get as much passed as he can in this first year and half before the
2026 election cycle and elections starts.. should the dems win either the house
or senate or both they won;t pass anything of his..so get whatever he can now
Exactly, even if there is some deficit spending. The debt is so damn huge, that at this point faith is as important as any other factor.
With all the hate thrown at Elon Musk, I hope he has increased his security. And by a lot.
when he ticked off the whacked out leftists with his support for President Trump
that may have been true
but, now he has angered greatly MAGA by betraying President Trump and the taxpayers
and MAGA doesn’t play the violence game
he is probably safe for now
I know we pick our battles and should celebrate the wins.
My big issue is illegals getting medicaid and food stamps. Never was clear on do they or don’t they? So that’s a no for both, i hope?
If undocumented parents lose Medi-Cal, California kids could suffer, advocates say | EdSource
Newsom proposes to freeze Medi-Cal enrollment for immigrants – CalMatters
I hate to burst your naïve bubble. Under what rock have you been hiding?
As far as food stamps, maybe the illegals don’t qualify, but their anchor babies sure do and you know darn well that illegal school children are getting free lunches in school.
Thanks for reply. Grew up in northern CA and I can’t believe how it is now.
The article you’re posting to answers the question 😊
Appreciate the reply. There’s been so much back and forth on these 2 issues.
it will be interesting to see how many hospitals and dirty third world type doctor offices go out of business
I am not advocating for free health care etc. for these groups of criminals (anyone who comes in illegally
is a criminal in my mind) however, they will still go to the hospitals and doctors – I think legally they
can’t turn them away. However, they also won’t get paid by Medicaid.
Higher rates for the rest of us? Unintended consequences need to be addressed perhaps.
I certainly won’t compare this to Christmas, but I will compare it to Santa Claus delivering presents to all of the good girls and boys! 🙂