GE Appliances is a subsidiary of the Haier company, which is based in China. Most people do not know that. GE Appliances are Chinese appliances.
The recent headline about GE Appliances moving their production from China to the USA (Kentucky), is simply an outcome of the need for GE to avoid steel, aluminum and reciprocal trade tariffs. This is not complicated.
FOX NEWS – GE Appliances on Thursday said it would spend $490 million to move the production of most of its washing machines from China to Kentucky.
The operation will move to the company’s massive industrial Appliance Park headquarters in Louisville, Kentucky, where it already manufactures washers and dryers. At least 800 new full-time jobs are expected to be created, the company said in a news release.
“We are bringing laundry production to our global headquarters in Louisville because manufacturing in the U.S. is fundamental to our ‘zero-distance’ business strategy to make appliances as close as possible to our customers and consumers,” said GE Appliances president and CEO Kevin Nolan. “This decision is our most recent product reshoring and aligns with the current economic and policy environment.”
The investment will bring more than 15 washer models to Building 2 in Appliance Park at the company headquarters, bringing the total area of clothes care production to the equivalent of 33 football fields. (more)
Winning
Bigly!
beat me to it.
But it’s Still Chinese Owned.
GE ChiCom ain’t winning long term, it’s Losing.
If an American company wants to manufacture washer/dryers in the USA with American labor AND make them to last then it will outsell anything that “GE-China” makes.
There is no reason why they both take a portion of the market.
Personally, I would like a simple, basic W/D without all of the computer upgrades. Let them let the market decide.
That was EXACTLY what I looked for in a new washer and dryer… $1700 for the pair and at just 4 years old, one has already needed a repair.
During the lockdowns, the latch on my washing machine broke. Due to supply chain issues the part was unavailable so, even though it was under warranty, they couldn’t fix it.
So I got out some wooden paint stir sticks and a hot glue gun and made a part that “tricks” the machine into thinking that the safety latch is engaged. I hammered it down into the front of my washing machine and it works.
One year later, I finally got the part but never used it. I still have it but I can open the lid to my machine in the middle of a cycle and the machine thinks that it is locked tight.
I’m a big girl and have no desire to climb into my washing machine.
Basic knobs, instrumentation, great water capacity, aggressive agitation with inner rails and tubs that won’t rust. The good ole days. 🤓❤️
My no-chip Whirlpools from 22 years ago are spectacular. Will keep them with me.
PS Listen to your mother. She told me, “do not ever buy anything fancy and no front load washers. Just the basic.
Take the advice!!!
“Personally, I would like a simple, basic W/D without all of the computer upgrades”
I am pretty sure that Speed Queen still makes the one my mother has with just a dial and no microprocessor. It is labeled “Commercial”.
Tub only fills 2/3 to “save water”, 😡 but you can manually hold it to fill to top.
Still some automation and electronics in it. B regime added requirements for WD manufacturing. All to save water, (mostly but doesn’t seem so), but not electricity as the cycles are longer.
“as the cycles are longer.”
My sister-in-law’s brother has some fool machine that is a top loader with barely no agitator that supposedly takes ~90 minutes for a regular cycle – something absurd.
I got rid of a huge, no doubt overpriced LG front-load washer that was in my home when I moved here – it took 54 minutes per wash cycle and the door seals were stinky
Yuk. Therein lies the problem.
Look for override buttons or settings for low water like “FULL RINSE” or similar; many of the new washers have them. I wouldn’t buy one without the capability to override!
Same for cars
I want my roll up window back!
Yeah, I remember the old electric windows made good downriggers for fishing the Great Lakes 30-40 years ago!!
With the wing windows!
My mother’s 65 Mustang was the best!!! Even after the brakes gave out!
No more water saver washer crap for me. I have an artisian well that used to feed 200plus head of cattle. I don’t need/want a water saver in my area. My last washing machine was so stingy with the water I couldn’t get the clothes clean!
Chinese owned on paper…
Government Electric {GE} and Government Motors {GM} are the epitome of crony capitalism…
No worries…
It all comes out in the wash…
China has no choice but to accept the United States Lincoln Penny as the world’s reserve currency.
Winners do not compromise.
Winners set terms.
Cash makes no enemies.
Personality does not factor in mathematics.
And God is no respecter of persons.
In God We Trust
{All others pay cash}
Trust God
Fear not
What doesn’t come out in the wash, comes out in the rinse!
Aren’t you a dark cloud, bet you have to fish by yourself lol
‘Bet you have to fish by yourself’.
Thumbs up because I near wet myself in that I never heard that before! Nice
Ha, otherwise …how many fish or you?
Spot on.
Not until it is an American company with American values with ownership over the manufacturing. That would be winning. With Chinese ownership, they just increase their US footprint and political influence as a large employer in the state. In the meantime, will not purchase GE products.
Some day I’m going to read that a company is smart enough to move to WV. Personally with the politicians turned out in Ky, I am not clapping.
but then, on second thought, bein g Chinese they’re where they belong.
Duh, who is The Turdle married to? That deal needs to be looked at very, very carefully.
Good point. How about buying the company back with American ownership
Spent my summers in Bluefield, WV growing up. Lovely part of the country with all those mountains.
I agree with you, but that being said, Louisvile is a terrific city!
Louisville is progressive.
Progressive? We need a new truth!!!
Leftwing?
Give me Bluefield any day, you can have Louisville.
Clap for Nate Morris. He’s running for McConnell’s seat.
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WV is a bit more sinister than you might think.
The owner of the Greenbrier Resort in White Sulphur Springs is just like the others.
The once beautiful little town of White Sulphur Springs has about three little hotels in town outside the resort. All old but sweet vintage, which should be renovated and doing well as run-off for the resort, but they are barely looking alive, now filled with foreign roommates who work for the large resort, and the town does not have a way of getting out of this low wage tenant situation.
The owner of the Greenbrier?
Jim Justice, once governor. Since he was term-limited, he ran for and, Holy Cow, is now Senator…preceded by Joe Manchin…our chin-scratching prior puppet. The little hotels in town were purchased by Justice, and he now runs them as dorms for foreign workers at his large resort…so the town suffers greatly.
I know because I looked at the area. The broker did not want to say anything, but because I am in the hospitality business, I saw what was going on.
Justice’s family, IMHO is holding a beautiful town hostage because he doesn’t want to house workers on his own multi-acre property. He needs to squeeze it for new homes and amenities on the resort grounds.
He has murdered a town. In West Virginia.
This area should be thriving, yet it is being strangled.
See how this works? His shift from Governor to Senator was never about the salary…and Sulphur Springs is a suburban victim.
Jim Justice will continue in power, no matter what government position he holds.
Meanwhile, I would love to live in that area in WV, but I just cannot buy into that type of one-family mob control.
Damn them all.
I so understand what is happening here, if any one could more succinctly describe the scenario,
I would much appreciate it.
Taking over the US by a dictatorship. Maybe?
Perfect location to build a motel for tourists and a small business for locals to have jobs. It is not murder. It is opportunity. Someone will recognize that and that will jmp start the renewal. The town is not that far from a ski and year-round resort. I am a 75 year old Msrshall University grad who is too old and too tired to do it myself. WishI was younger.
Oh, one did. I forgot to mention the other part of my story.
Taller Half and I stayed in town one night. In the new, at that point, Schoolhouse Hotel.
As one chimed in on TripAdvisor, Aesthetically an A, functionally a D-.
Since I have been designing hotels, I can testify.
The intent of the place is to make EVERYTHiNG ADA compliant.
If you have ever seen the French movie, ‘Mon Uncle’, you would agree.
Absolutely nothing works, all on electricity. Maybe a teacher’s union built it.
I have never ever had an experience like it.
The REAL motels have been taken over by foreign workers. Still leaves a dysfunctional town, IMHO.
Jack Welch destroyed GE.
I keep telling people. It was NOT the boomers who wrecked America. It was the Silent Generation, of which Welch was a part. They are the generation that made the management decisions to ship American manufacturing and the American jobs associated with it, to China and everywhere else. The Silent Generation was responsible for hollowing out America. Hey Silent Generation! See this finger? Spin on it. Lookin’ at YOU, Jack.
As a member of that generation, same back to you, trapper.
🙂
Happy 80th Birthday.
but he’s right you know
Turn down the anger. Stop whining.
Business leaders were put in place to increase the bottom line, whether that was a short term or long term goal/decision. I blame the politicians (Presidents, Congress and state and local leaders) that created the conditions for this to happen. They were elected to benefit the voters.
Blame the damn FED!!!!
That’s where it belongs!!!
Quarterly reporting for the stock markets.
Did not know GE Appliances were owned by a chyna company.
I have a nice GE refrigerator in the kitchen. Have had it 7 years.
Makes you think: is ANYTHING made here anymore?
Just like products with brand labels such as:
‘Westinghouse’
‘Bell + Howell’
‘Kodak’
‘RCA’
I’m sure there’s dozens more…
Also – while Jack Welch was lionized as the very image of a modern CEO… over time, it appears that his management style was not without issues, such that GE was delisted from the Dow Jones Industrial Average in 2018.
His management style has not aged well.
Even Hellman’s Mayonnaise is now totally owned by the Chinese
Fifty/sixty years ago the cheap shit was from Japan!
Now you know what Ross Perot meant by his “giant sucking sound” comment in the ’92 campaign.
1998 I was told in a business administration class that USA would become a service oriented country.
The fix was in.
I was told about 2 years before that about information being stored remotely in the future (“the cloud”) and not on local hard drives in each computer.
I knew that in high school, and I graduated in 1973 AD!
A 1968 grad here, and I witnessed every industry in Huntington, WV die. I watched steel mills in Pittsburgh die. I watched textiles in NY die, and furniture in NC die. Same with pharmacouticals, photography equipment, stereos and TVs, glass making, and many others. I Thank God for President Trump. We have a Cchance to return to manufacturing.
I worked at Irvin Works in the early 70’s, our steel was being undercut by Italy! We rolled the steel for the washer/dryer and the auto industry. My moms ringer washer is still in use by my sister. That was six decades ago! I had memories watching POTUS speak from Irvin Works a few weeks ago! (West Mifflin) I was born and raised in McKeesport!
Anyone else remember the orange sky at night from the Blast Furnace at National Tube (USS)?
That would be from the “Bessemer Converter”
Yeah, I buy Blenko ocassionally, but there were several glass manufacturers in WV over the decades (Fenton being well known) that are now gone. It is sad.
But: we need to incentivize the workforce to take manufacturing jobs. Too many were told they would get better jobs if they went to college, now they are fat, unhealthy desk-bound workers. Too many others saw their parents’ employers close down, they are now on welfare and an awful lot are drug addicted.
Got the same message earlier
It was our politicians who opened up markets with China and allowed them to steal our manufacturing.
Any number of presidents could have done what PDJT is doing to financially incentivize “should I stay or should I go”. But none of them ever thought of tariffs to keep American manufacturing and jobs in the USA.
The politicians told us that service industry jobs were the future and importing cheap products from China would make up for the financial losses to American families.
American companies could no longer compete against cheap Chinese products if they had to manufacture in the USA. Corporate tax rates were at 40%. It was cheaper to make it in China and ship across the ocean. Businesses had two options: move to China or go out of business.
Our politicians created this mess by selling out this country and setting up a system that rewarded off shoring manufacturing.
Not one of them even lifted a pinky to do anything to keep these businesses here. Except PDJT.
They couldn’t wait to sell us out to the Chinese.
After watching PDJT and learning how to bring back jobs, I am surprised that you are blinded to how our politicians created this mess.
“our politicians created this mess.”
We have the best politicians money can buy
Woodrow Wilson, who signed us over to the FED!!!
SPIT!!!
That man deserves to rot someplace special!
FDR too
USMCA was a disaster for US manufacturing and US workers. I pray tariffs and provisions in the BBB help turn that around.
I cannot personally blame Jack Welch, per se…
But I did respect him, and hoped, at a time when We really needed hope {early ’08}, that he would be a voice “for” American business…
As opposed to being the voice “of” the Government…
Jack Welch knew…
Jamie Dimon knew…
Inexcusable sellouts…
Both.
My Other Half HATES Jack Welch!
Look, you’re blaming the people running the company for performing a duty they are LEGALLY BOUND to perform. Management of a company is LEGALLY OBLIGATED to make as much of a profit for the company as they can manage within the law. If it can be proven that the management FAILED TO DO SO, they can be facing both civil and criminal proceedings.
Now, you may not like that GE sold out to the Chinese. I don’t like it. But without American governmental intervention, if the deal was good enough, they really had no choice. Failing to do so would open them up to the perils I mentioned earlier.
For what it’s worth, if you get an idiot company management that wants to make the entire company woke and green, they too can be sued by the shareholders for failing to perform their legally obligated task of managing the company for the benefit of the shareholders.
I understand the reason for the law. I also don’t like governmental interference in private business. That said, maybe in this case it was necessary but, for whatever reason, did not occur. Of course, if the sale took place under the Biden Junta, GE’s original American ownership may have been pushed TOWARD selling to the Chinese!
Companies are not ONLY obligated to provide shareholder benefit, they also need took to corporate stability and continuity. Moving operations to China, Mexico, S Korea, etc, incurs operational inefficiencies and high shipping costs. Every year I watched our engineers spend months at foreign toolmakers, babysitting completion, tryouts, and getting prototype parts made on time.
It wasn’t the “entire generation” and it wasn’t just the silent generation. I remember the woman CEO of GM made a fortune selling them out and she was definitely not from the silent generation! It’s individuals from any generation in play filled with power and greed!
Mary Barra “rose” from GM’s HR . . .
Nixon, taken hostage by Kissinger.
You are absolutely right!
Welch, aka Mr CEO, was an absolute fraud who made millions on a manufacturing concept that nearly destroyed American manufacturing.
William Edwards Deming was/is the Bible.
Don’t forget Proctor & Gamble headquartered in Cincinnati. Shut down many of their plants and moved off shore.
I just had to suppress a little vomit coming up.
Deming?! Seriously? Just in time manufacturing, lean manufacturing, six sigma. Gag me with my black belt cert
My opinion of him and his ideas/processes is quite low. But that is based on many decades of having suffer with his CRAP
Did you forget the 5 S’s? My husband lived through all of that craziness during his career.
To be fair some of that was from the Japanese with their Kaizans and stuff.
I always remember the little pictures of a Kaizan project to clean up and organize a work space. All the check marks is boxes about how the process worked so well complete before and after pics.
I told anyone who would listen to find USN E3 to E5 and tell them to field day that space and it would be perfect and you could skip the entire “process steps”.
So much BS
We called “Just in time” Car-Ban
Oh yeah . . .
Then there was the Sandy Munro doctrine
I think the Japanese would disagree with you. Deming took them from trinkets-&-trash to manufacturing arguably the best manufactured cars in the world for the middle class. I know there are a couple of other names that the Japanese credit along with Deming – Walter Shewart maybe – but you are the first person I’ve ever read that thinks Deming was an imposter. I have read that many consultants think Deming got bastardized. Example, Six Sigma was one of five or six tools of Deming, and GE, if memory serves me correctly, turned that one tool into it’s own system.
Few people are aware who Deming was, or the significance of his teachings.
Japanese industry listened and learned.
Significance can work both ways.
And don’t forget Quality Assurance….the world substitute for craftsmanship (apologies to the many QEs out there who I deeply respect )
“You cannot inspect quality into a product.”
My upvote comes from a QA supervisor working in a family – owned electroplating/stamping & forming shop.
Quit buying GE products in late 80’s
Quit buying Sears products ……. because there aren’t any !!!
America you were something once upon a time.
Having Chinese Company “Labeled” GE is a temporary employment fix, but like “British Steel” is Chinese Owned. WTFU America. We Are Owned.
Same as Jim Justice ruining West Virginia.
West Virginia’s decline started way before Justice. There is no excuse that they haven’t been able to attract industry back to their state.
Jim hit the latest nail. Yet, Mine, baby, Mine!!!
These type jobs bring far more to local economies then just the specific manufacturing job itself. There used to be a 1 to 3 rule when calculating the impact of local manufacturing.
For every manufacturing job, 3 additional jobs used to be created in sales and service type jobs. So when applying this same rule, 800 new jobs actually could create over 2000 new jobs on the local economy
It’s even more than that. The average manufacturing job carries a multiplier of 10. That is, every manufacturing job supports 10 other jobs through the spending and re-spending of the payroll. So if this falls wihin the average, they will be creating 8,000 new jobs, and that does NOT include product supply chain jobs like parts and raw materials. Purely local spending and re-spending of the payroll.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics used to keep an annually updated database by industry showing the multiplier per industry. I’m too lazy to go look for it. As I recall, auto manufacturing carried the highest multiplier of 14.
I have seen what GE shutting down in it’s home town did.
Yes, 14 is correct for auto.
I’m going to call BS on those kinds of stats that are exaggerated.
I’m not doubting that you accurately quoted some chart, but the math just doesn’t work. It’s pixie dust.
Yes, one job may CONTRIBUTE to 10 others.
But it’s not like ONE $70,000 job magically creates 10 other $70,000 incomes. Someone making $70K/yr (and that’s just a number used as an example) doesn’t spread $700,000 around town.
Maybe 10 people spending what’s left of their paychecks after bills might be enough to employ a kid at the grocery store or help keep the local doughnut shop open but it doesn’t miraculously turn into hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars. If that was true there’d be a Home Depot and Chik-fil-a in every small town… but they’re not… because it takes the disposable incomes of ten of thousands of people before it’s economically feasible.
I’d like to see proof of how they get to those numbers.
I’ll buy into that theory as soon as someone produces a working perpetual motion machine.
I guess it all depends on what the definition of “supports” is.
It’s jobs, not income. As the manufacturing payroll is spent in a town, it goes to the clothing store, the furniture store, the toy store, the car dealer, etc., and they in turn employ people to satisfy that purchasing, who also in turn spend their income in the local stores, and so on, and so on. Depending upon the size of the manufaturing plant, it is several million dollars, sometimes 10 -20 million dollars, of cash injected into the local economy every year, year after year. One small manufacturing plant can keep an intire town n business. And when it closes, it may take a few years, but eventually you get another dead town with borded up store fronts and no jobs anywhere.
Agree. Thanks.
GE being brought back to Louisville brings back the glory days of Dayton.
When most of my great uncles worked at “The Fridgedaire”. Division of General Motors.
Being a part of GM, and having workers that were part of UAW was eventually it’s downfall.
My old house in the hood had a kitchen that had a double oven Fridgedaire range, complete
with a deep well cooker. Worked like a dream, looked like a juke box. I also had a Fridgedaire
dishwasher, same year. Both appliances were built in 1956, like their owner. They were
working perfectly in 1995 when I sold that home.
As to the multiplying effect: The city of Dayton killed an absolute cash cow in Vandalia
a few years back. Vandalia is where Dayton’s airport sits. They were going to build another
runway ( never happened), which was setting on land where the Grand National Amateur
Trapshooting Association sat. The land was only used for 2 weeks a year, and when the
trapshoot was going on it kicked 5 million into the local economy. 20 years ago.
The ATA moved out of state, and Montgomery County and the City of Dayton shot themselves
in the foot. Losing a cash cow after the 7 former GM plants had closed down in Dayton.
I don’t think it is still true since we have gone to big boy farming, but agriculture dollars used to be the biggest creator of local wealth. The farmer turned the money back into new tractors, trucks, fertilizer, seed, feed, fuel, clothes and the list goes on.
Now the money gets sucked up into a big out of town pot and the local merchants get very little.
“Yes, one job may CONTRIBUTE to 10 others”
All the jobs do not have the same incomes.
It is the nearby restaurants, etc. that are patronized by factory employees, etc.
Sixty years ago Western Pa. was boom town area! Now it’s a rust belt area slowly recovering little bits at a time! Mills are turned into shopping malls!
Ah, but manufacturing robots….
And when we spend cash in our local businesses, the velocity of money and value in our community is geometrically felt.
Auto plants, even foreign-owned, have a similar effect.
It’s more like 7 jobs.
You not only have parts and things that go into the washers but the light switches and bulbs the parts that service the facilities like AC filters etc Also lunches for the workers soda machines candy vendors. Do t forget TP for the bathroom.
800 jobs could spread out to 5000 jobs or more.
Joliet nearly collapsed when CAT made their final exit around ’83…
it used to also be said that every dollar that a farmer made turns 8 times in the economy. now with the consolidation and vertical integration of ag not to mention foreign ownership of same that is gone too
“Trump’s tariffs are not just about trade. They’re about rebuilding what our elites sold off piece by piece.”
Could Trump’s bold move REVERSE America’s industrial collapse?
https://www.glennbeck.com/glenn-beck/trumps-move-reverse-americas-collapse
It is possible: but we need to reverse a multi-decade problem and it won’t be done in a year. In addition to building the factories, they have to recruit the workers. Unfortunately many were told they would get better jobs as college graduates; and many others sunk into long-term unemployment, depression, and drug use.
What some have called the ‘sheepskin psychosis’ has plagued America’s economy for decades.
College no longer means a guarantee of a ‘good job’ – it Does guarantee a
good-sized debt at 22.
PDJT Is the exception.
Remember when Dubya’s boss was president?
Excellent move! Thank you, President Trump!
FYI Tarrifs work.
Incentives work, including tariffs and good tax policies
Democrats are sad
C’mon man…
Retired Magistrate here: We have an old GE refrigerator in the basement which is probably at least 50 years old and still going strong. That is when GE appliances were made in the United States and they made really excellent products. Happy to hear that GE appliances will be made in the United States again.
By the way, one of the benefits of old appliances is that they don’t listen to what you are saying and report back to Big Brother.
Oh, for old appliances again!
…am gonna cry over the deceased Kenmore fridge…
Yes, we loved our old side by side Kenmore for many years. We kept replacing the seals around the doors until one day the icemaker died and we couldn’t get a replacement.
I still have my Kenmore more wall oven….
We still have 40-50 year old matched washer and dryer at our house. We’ve only had minor issues in all that time, and I fixed them myself! (love love LOVE to tinker!) 🙂
I left my 35 year old Kenmore washer & dryer with my house when I sold it last year. I regret doing that every day now.
Our Kenmore dishwasher is over 25 years old and giving us good service
I recently replaced my Kenmore fridge of ’94 vintage….I cried…couldn’t get the right part…and it had some hairline fractures on the inside so it was time…never gave an ounce of trouble with a household of 4 kids…
My dad has a big floor freezer that is at least 50 years old and going fine. I guess manufacturers realized instead of selling 1 fridge/freezer that lasts 20+ years, make them last no more than 5 years (of course just beyond warranty) and double or triple the price. So they sell 5-6 versus just 1.
Of course, alot of the crapiness if appliances comes from the continuing regulations that make them not last.
Built-in obsolescence has been a corporate business model for many decades.
Chinese made junk from China-Mart is a prime example of a throw-away society.
Being a pocket knife collector, what’s really sad to me is to see the US market flooded with chinese knives. They started out cheaper than US-made knives. Then they have slowly raised their pricing such that many brands are now competing with Buck, Case, Benchmade, Spyderco, TOPS, ESEE, etc. However, you can never trust that the chinese steels and the heat treatment are what they say they are.
Taiwan-made knives are well-made and acceptable. CCP-made is not my preference, although I have bought a few.
I wonder how long the GE move back to the US will last. A new administration could reverse the trend.
Totally frelled world we live in…….!
I guess we should live our “best lives” and enjoy the successes that President Trump has achieved.
As I boldly stare retirement in the face…I am prepping for beyond…
“However, you can never trust that the chinese steels and the heat treatment are what they say they are.”
Experienced welders can tell the difference between welding Chyna steel and quality American steel.
Remember when stainless steel never rusted ?
Yes
Auto industry is playing the same game now also.
The “annual model change” of cars started the obsolescence trend
I remember learning about “planned obsolescence “ in high school 50 years ago.
Around the time the book Future Shock came out.
Before that for me—from my dad.
My mother has an upright freezer going in the basement.
Bought in 1965 or 1966, before this house was built in 1967.
Whirlpool.
With the old exposed coils for the compressor.
The orange pilot light went out decades ago, but the door seal is still original.
Our big whirlpool freezer lasted over 40 years. I probably should have tried to have it fixed.
Our harvest gold washer and dryer lasted over thirty years. I think we have been through three washers and two dryers since then.
The harvest gold cook stove lasted over forty years and still had the best cooking oven ever. Set the temp and it stayed right there. This newer thing cuts on and off and does not cook good. It pops and bangs when it comes back on. I don’t know what fool thought it was a good idea to shoot gas into a hot stove with an electric lighter.
Yeah, I see zero benefit to “smart” or AI-enabled devices!
Amen. I don’t need a refrigerator with wifi or see through doors!!!!
Yeah, just about the dumbest idea ever
Ahhhhh, that answers the question of why GE appliance quality degraded.
I hate buying appliances during democrat administrations. Unfortunately it seems that’s when mine need replacement. I may try to repair or milk along my current GE appliances until I can buy AMERICAN made again.
Me too…
My central air conditioner…circa 1986…a deal thru the power company for new construction…is on its last legs…
Did I get my money’s worth? You betchya! Gotta get a new one soon…am hoping to make it to fall winter…for the sales(?)…before I lose the cost savings…
Its so bleeping old that the Freon they use now, to substitute for the original Freon rating…will not be made anymore…
Last summer, the repair guy was disappointed that I still had the documents to align with the freon needed…I think he was hoping to sell me a new unit then…
Retired Magistrate here: Unfortunately the new central air conditioners only last 10-15 years. Our old Rheem was 35 years old when we moved into our current home. It was still operating 5 years later but pulling really high amps so I had it replaced with a Comfortmaker Whole House Air Conditioner which is now 13 years old and pulling high amps due to the compressor starting to fail. We are hoping it lasts through the Summer. I will talk with our appliance repairman, who also repairs air conditioning systems, and see if it is more cost effective to repair or replace.
Unfortunately, whatever we replace the old one with probably won’t last as long as the one we have.
Of course he was: at the last A/C service, the tech tried to talk me into “investment” in add-ons
The AC company we used was bought out by another co. When the new service tech started talking a bout a new unit within 15 minutes of arrival I canceled service with co. That was 18 months ago. Can’t stand pushy techs trying to upsell. I know units don’t last like they used to , but at $ 9- 12,000 am just hoping to squeeze as much use as possible.
Went in for a oil c
hange at dealership a month ago. Rogue has 40,000 miles. Told me I needed $2500 in repairs. Told him his mother would be ashamed of him. Last time they will see me there. It’s not like it used to be.
Pray and help others.And extra prayers for Dutchman
I took my ’08 Solstice in for an oil change at a Jiffy Lube. They tried to sell me new brakes, based on mileage not inspection. Sheesh.
Hubby does all that himself, and our 2016 AD Rogue is still doing fine, with only minor issues occassionally.
Course, it helped to have a TLM Catholic priest bless it when we first got it at 2 years old from Enterprise Rentals.
“got it at 2 years old from Enterprise Rentals.”
I have a very good friend that has been buying from Enterprise for quite a while.
He has been extremely happy with all his purchases, as have several other people that have bought from the Enterprise fleet on his recommendation.
Born Free: The quality went down before GE sold its appliance business to the Chinese.
Great news, and a big Mickey Finger to the “experts” who claimed that tariffs would not work.
GE was already producing Top Load in KY, but this moves their Front Load washeres to the USA.
Note that after the 2024 election, LG and Samsung announced moving Dryer production to their US factories in Tennesee, and South Carolina respectively.
I was a buyer at Sears/Kmart in 2016 when LG and Samsung announced building these facilities in order to move Washer production from South Korea to the USA. This was within weeks of the November election.
More winning!
Front load washers are absolutely horrible for a number of reasons not apparent to those who have never used them. That’s why they were so quickly replaced by the top loaders, back in the day.
I can guess. Big time water damage if anything goes wrong with the front seal?
Gravity is gravity.
My mom, the wife of a merchant mariner…used to say that the ship was not under the Brooklyn Bridge when dad did a 6 week trip and something would be breaking in the house…usually something big…furnace, (we had oil heat), water heater…so I learned quick…when buying something…I think of my own “if it weren’t for bad luck, I’d have none at all”…and try to think of what could be the worst to happen…and front load washer and gravity…is why I have a top loader.
But then there was the brand new washer, top load…purchased for another abode…with a crack in the tub…again…gravity…
Always buy stainless steel tubs in washing machines and dishwashers.
If I had the space, I would have bought a Speed Queen washer
Speed Queen is purportedly the best. But at twice the cost and 2/3 the capacity, it’s a hard sell for us.
Unfortunately, Speed Queen is not what it use to be.
Mold on the seals, if you don’t leave the washer door open. I have cats, so I gave away the front loader and replaced it.
Better than the political Money Laundering! 😉
I rue the day I bought a GE to replace my Sears Kenmore washer and dryer….just sayin’…..
The clothes don’t get clean.
Retired Magistrate here: Old Kenmore Washers and Dryers are great. My old Kenmore washer finally quit about 15 years ago and I replaced it with a Whirlpool; very pleased with it. It has an agitator and a large tub and gets the clothes clean. The heating element finally went out in my old Kenmore Dryer and I found an appliance repairman who works on old appliances. He fixed it and said that all older appliances are usually worth fixing because the quality is so much better.
Hi Marcia…hope you are well with the mid west heat and all…
Mine were ok, scratched with small amounts of rust…and I got talked into a pretty color at HD…biggest mistake I ever made…An agitator…my kingdom for an agitator…! In my region, its hard to find a repairman who works on the older appliances…
I think back in the day, Whirlpool made Kenmore…and were made to Kenmore standards.
Those truly were the days…
Kenmores were originally made by RCA. Because Chairmen of Sears Roebuck and RCA were foxhole buddies in WW1. Worked for Sears for 6 years; back when they were the largest retailer of everything. Their tools, paint, tires, appliances were the top sellers. Went through mangement training, and progressed to Assistant Store Mgr. Left for Silicon Valley in 1969. Took my wife back to last Sears store at which I served in 2000 in Cooks Corner, ME (halfway between Brunswick and Bath). There was am employee that sold appliances that recognised me, after all that time. He had over 40 years with Sears, Roebuch & Co. And he was purported to own lots of local real estate, and well as lots of Sears stock.
How long ago did you buy? I bought a GE stacked unit last year and it works fine. (though I wish I had bought a Whirlpool unit)
Maybe 15 years ago…I got caught up in a color change…
When I was fridge shopping…GE was way expensive…and am going to replace the stove and dishwasher…for them, GE would be ok…but now, waiting for prices to stabilize…
I wouldn’t buy a GE fridge, the Whirlpool brands are rated much better
All those wretched efficiency “standards”, like shower heads that dribble (I still crack up remembering President Trump talking about those and his beautiful hair 😂 ) and low flow toilets.
I have been taking Navy showers for over 60 years to save money .
Well, in the hospital, we sometimes have to do a ‘bird bath’…
While I haven’t bird baths, we, too watch what water we use for the same reason. Every penny counts.
I remember as a kid that we had an old neighbor who was adamant that if you took a bath more than once a week you were washing your skin off.
Those low flow shower heads can me easily modified my friend……ask me how I know? LOL.
I’ve got one just like you at home, Monti 😉👍🏻
Likewise
Maybe toilets and shower heads will be next? We can hope…
I think shower heads have already been dealt with. Unsure about the toilets…
I bought a Kenmore washer 4 yrs ago. Don’t know if they still make them…
Oh wow! I don’t know but am going to find out…
Mine is top loader with an agitator. Found it on line.( new) Don’t remember web site..Love it..
Kenmore doesn’t make their own, used to be Whirlpool / Maytag but maybe not anymore.
One word: Speedqueen
Exactly. The best if you have the $$$ and space.
Not sure if still there, but Speedqueen was located in Ripon, WI.
The location of the founding of the Republican Party.
Agree and to be wordy Speed Queen. 😎
Who exactly is going to get the new jobs? Where I live in an ostensibly red state, a hospital expanded massively during the Biden years as part of the construction boom that followed the exodus of internal refugees from blue states. The majority of the jobs went to foreigners, based on my personal observation. The majority of the customers are also foreigners, based on my personal observation.
We will be WORSE OFF if the returning jobs are bringing more foreigners in and implanting them into our communities. These jobs must NOT be filled with H1B, etc. It’s better to be reduced to buying goods from foreigners that we could have made from ourselves and preserve our communities intact, than it would be to bring the factories back along with the already trained foreign workers and have them replace our people in our remaining intact American communities.
It’s better to be neglected than replaced. This anti-American empire will die eventually. We have to outlast it.
Stop welfare and unemployment to able bodied.
Sometimes we need to relocate for work. I did, several times.
Assuming Trump has stopped giving out Biden green cards, there are plenty of US workers available.
Thank you, I didn’t know this. Frigidaire is now owned by Electrolux (Sweden). Whirlpool, I believe, is still a US company.
Whirlpool, I believe made in Mexico now
Some in MX, some CA, some US. You have to check each model.
No more Chinese laundry?
“No tickee …”
HaHaHa! 🤣
No more ancient Chinese secret.
If they can move the jobs here then they can move them out, AGAIN!
We need election integrity or have American First, ‘we must win at all costs’ b@st@rds (to counter the left, globalists, Chinese, etc.) after Trump leaves in 2032.
We cannot rest on our victory with Trump. He is the first victory and not the last. If Trump is our only victory then we are screwed.
How do We the People screw them, instead, continuously?
GE Appliances used to be made in Kentucky
Many still are.
Trump is literally cleaning up the world trade organization.
Make it here sell it here and buy it here.
Reminds me of the good old days.
Don’t buy GE.
This! We moved into a house with a mix of brands. All of the GE items broke down and had to be replaced. Everything else is still soldiering along.
How interesting that Kentucky was chosen. Does it have anything to do with the McConnell family?
I remember when Appliance Park was opened in Louisville back in 1955. It is a huge place covering many acres. In its heyday it was the biggest employer in the area, providing many thousands of good paying jobs. From the article it appears that they are moving production back to this facility which is still there and will be easy to reactivate. So, no, I doubt if McConnell had anything to do with it. Besides, ol’ Mitch wouldn’t want to bring jobs back from China.
I have noticed that car commercials are starting to tout patriotic claims like “made in America with American values” and so forth. I suppose GE will follow suit. All of a sudden it’s cool to be a patriotic American.
…………….or “assembled in America”………………..
Anyone know of a major appliance manufacturer that is and has always been operating in the USA? My wife and I are actually in the market for a couple of such appliances, and we were actually thinking about GE. Now, we want to do better than that. I detest even the idea of Chinese manufactured appliances. All Chinese products, that I have ever purchased are crap, within a few years. That is, If they last that long.
Whirlpool.
Forgot about Sub Zero.
Speed Queen. Best washers/dryers made here. Little digital anything. Actually clean the clothes. Cost more but worth it.
Thank you for that suggestion, but my current need includes a new dishwasher, oven, and a gas cook top. My washer and dryer are the last real ones that were sold by Sears about 15 years ago. They are still running fine, like they should be. Speed Queen is a great brand and I will likely buy that brand when/if my current washing machine and dryer finally give up the ghost. 🙂
Speed Queen, a Wisconsin company. To my knowledge has always been so.
Maytag! My top load washer and companion dryer are great!
“The Maytag Corporation is an American home and commercial appliance company. The company has been owned by Whirlpool Corporation since April 2006. The Maytag Washing Machine Company was founded in 1893 by businessman Frederick Maytag.”
My friends who are about 10 years younger and bought Maytag, are not happy with the quality. Friends who bought LG and Samsung refrigerators are very angry, they breakdown in about 3 years, the parts are ridiculously priced and repair time is pricey…this is the south/southwest suburban area of Chicago.
Also…some Whirlpool brands have the label but are made by another company…I found that out when I got my new ‘fridge…so find out what the label is ‘behind the label’….for the record I got my new fridge at HD, Whirlpool.
Am thinking of GE for the DW and new stove…I see Amana and Frigidaire are still around but don’t know much about them…
Frigidaire is now owned by Electrolux (Sweden). Amana was a Whirlpool brand, I don’t know if they are still around.
I have a Frigidaire gas range getting delivered in a week, my sister has one about 2 YO and highly recommended it.
For DW, go with a steel-tub Whirlpool, Maytag, or Kitchen Aid: not GE. More expensive dishwashers are generally more quiet and worth the $$$.
Thank you. Other suggestions are just as valuable as this one to me. But yours include the appliances I need right now.
We bought Maytag 5 years ago top loader and have been thrilled with the quality. No problems. Cleans clothes well.
Have had a Frigidaire gas stove and refrigerator for over 15 years and still going strong.
speed queen my friend
The Whirlpool brands are still HQ in Benton Harbor, MI: but you have to look at the individual appliance lines to be sure they are US-made. Maytag generally are, but you gotta check each one.
Pokey: Possibly Thermador.
Thanks. I think I know a place to find out on that brand.
Don’t do it. I quit doing their warranty work after they took over Bosch, they just stop making parts
Speedqueen
SubZero & Wolf but $$$$$$
Bosch for dishwashers. Sorry, also foreign. Whirlpool.
Tough luck… I bought speed queen right before the Xiden junta’s new “efficiency” regulations.
Timing’s everything.
I LOVE my top loader Speed Queen. My dad has a top loader piece of junk from Samsung or something like that that takes almost an hour to cycle with barely any water.
With all the new washers, you have to look for a “full rinse” or similar setting / button, to get them to use the proper amount of water.
What the Bleep? GE Appliances are Chinese?!?!?!?
How many other historic “American” companies that we have known our entire adult lives are also Chinese?
It’d be easier to list the ones that aren’t.
True, there are very few legacy brands left that are made in US
Owned by Haier, a Chinese company, but many if not most of the larger Major Appliances are built in Kentucky. It can vary by item.
I wish I could buy from Kentucky. It is a great state despite a couple of bad news politicians there. But I will not buy from a Chinese owned company. And that includes stuff with Vietnam and Cambodia listed as the manufacturers.
Feisty: When GE sold the appliance business to Haier, the Chinese company, GE also licensed use of the GE name. When IBM sold its personal computer business to Lenovo (also Chinese), the deal included use of the “Thinkpad” name on Lenovo-manufactured laptops, for some period of time.
I am not sure if Haier will have to drop the GE name after some period of time. I would think, yes.
As a point of interest: the first IBM pcs were made of off-the-shelf components, designed by a rogue group of scientists in Boca Raton, FL. The then Chairman thought they might sell 40,000 over the first 5 years. IBM sold 50,000 of their new pcs in the first 3 months. Also the floppy drives used (5 1/4 inches) were designed by the other Steve of Apple fame; Wozniak.
When IBM was in the market for an OS, they first went to see CPM, the leader. The company was owned by Gary Kildall, who stood up the IBM reps, to go play golf at Pasa Tempo (sp?) in Santa Cruz, CA. Hearing of this, Bill Gates puchased DOS from Seatle Computing for $50K and licensed it to IBM. IBM was soooooo hubristic, they didn’t ask for exclusivity, and that birthed the PC industry. That allowed anyone to make a PC and run DOS, There were severl dozen PC makers at the start in 1978.
Nice answer. I worked on mostly mainframe IBMs during my career, so I wasn’t aware of this. All I thought I knew is that Bill Gates was the founder of the DOS operating system. I am finding out things I never expected to learn from my question.
I am not the only pissed off American buyer of modern made foreign facsimiles of American consumer products. 10 oz toothpaste tubes with a fraction less than 6 oz of stuff that might be toothpaste! I tell you what.
Too many! But congresscritters got paid plenty of Chinese yuan!
The last GE appliance that I owned will be the last that I ever own…..it was a piece of trash that didn’t last one year. Now that I know the company is Chinese owned just like Smithfield meat packers it will be forever on my never buy list.
Same here. I bought a GE stacked unit to fit a very small space a year ago, so far it hasn’t misbehaved. But I wish I had bought the Whirlpool.
In 2001, I had a publicly-held company and a Board member that also sat on Maytag’s Board. A friend had invented a washer/dryer (both in one frame) unit for commercial use (huge market), and had the designs for a home unit. So, I had the Board member bring Maytag officers to meet my friend, who was wlling to allow Maytag to manufature his home unit. Maytag eventually declined; took them 5 months to decide not to. Now, combo units are all the rage. They save space a lot of space, which is a big deal in the apartment sector.
Interesting! I’ve never tried a combo unit. The one I have is a 24″ wide washer / dryer stack. I have the vertical space, don’t have floor space; which is what drove my choice.
I hate Smithfield, too! The meat is impregnated with water so it can stay frozen longer in the containers used in overseas shipping. This makes the meat taste worse and nobody cares except for a few of us backyard BBQ types. 🙂
TrumpIsRightAgain
Trump is putting the ching ching where it belongs.😀
G.E. washers/dryers are junk.imo
Atleast Whirlpool is 80% assembled in 🇺🇲 and hold up
GE has been crap for decades. I remember a portable radio I had as a kid in the 70’s that looked outdated even when it was brand new. Better than Soviet designs but not by much. 😆
Whirlpool Corp (Whirlpool, JennAir Maytag, Kitchenaid, Amana) is still a US based manufacturer. Buy American!
Thank you for that list.
Nice that they could make this announcement without fearing an injunction.
“zero distance strategy”… what? That is all.
Yeah. Zero distance strategy my foot. He ain’t foolin’ anybody. At least not us here in the Treehouse.
Kentucky/ home of Mitch and Elaine Chow…. Still closer to home so it’s a win.
Why would I buy something made here, but owned by the country that is out to destroy us?
Charlotte: You wouldn’t! And neither would I.
It would be nice if GE would make regular light bulbs again here too…..
Com Ed used to give its customers free light bulbs, so long ago I cannot remember (and not remembering is a first for Aggiegirl as all y’all know LOL)…incandescent light bulbs, I still have some in the basement…
And they lasted forever…
Remember when light bulbs cost .25 a few years ago and lasted forever? Smh…😪
Aggiegirl, I just googled kenmore and Amazon sells Kenmore appliances… Since Kenmore never had a factory and never produced their own,(Sears) you never know who really manufactured them but I did a little research and if the MNF code is 362,363,464 it was made by GE. Whirlpool and other co’s have codes that can be googled. Just Google, ‘ who makes Kenmore ——– insert type of appliance….
Whoops this was for Aggiegirl, My Bad..
re: “and lasted forever?”
Never a ‘thing’; Tbe number of times one flipped on a light switch and the bulb flashed (burned out due to thinning Tungsten filament, THIS is unavoidable on a Tungsten filament lamp.) on then off are long forgotten for some reason (failing memory syndrome).
“BLASPHEMY!!!” – Nancy Pelosi
Excellent move, but we still need to start making more of the raw materials for appliances. We don’t want to be an “assembly” economy like Canada.
yeah many moons ago I owned ge appliances. even after I knew the chinese bought ge. I bought another. But it turn out to be a piece of crap. I’ll never buy anything ge again, and too bad for craftsman tools too.
I really miss SEARs. I wish we never out sourced all our jobs to other country’s. That ended up killing our Retail industry…
The tip on every new screwdriver is made from Chineseium. Just what you want, a soft metal tip on a screwdriver so it smushes the philips head and breaks off on a slot.
Well, the Sears model was central-purchasing. The buyers weren’t told to buy for a certain area of the country. They adhered to the one-size-fits-all way of purchasing, and that eventually killed them; due to growth in specialty and boutique. Hard to believe they are gone. They invented shopping centers, insurance by maik, tires by mail. credit cards, houses by mail, etc.
Has GE always been a Chinese company?
No. Haier bought GE Appliances in 2016.
Adding a small amount of product related content based on my personal experinece in the industry for over 20 years.
Your mileage may vary.
My wife and I bought 2 brand new identical high end LG refrigerators when we built our new house. The compressors went out on both within 6 months after the extended warranty (we bought) went out. We now have GE refrigerators.
LG did have a linear compressor issue. A good many were recalled. The company I worked for returned a batch of them to LG. The recent production seemed not to have that issue.
Speed Queen, all amrican and I think still has 7 year warranty.
Staber Ind. is all american. supposed to be better than Speed Queen, but small market brand in Ohio.
Sales will plummet. Libtards only buy from Mao’s boys. I bet Little Timmie from Minnesota is in tears.
Tampon Tim was at the funeral today of the MN reps who were killed by his friend. He had his grieving ‘look’ on. Lost his ‘Joy’…..
Wow. I had no idea that China had acquired GE.
Will China be shipping Chinese steel with those jobs, or using US steel?
I have not bought any GE appliances. I prefer LG and for my cooktop and oven, Blue Star and Moffatt.
Is there anything NOT Chinese made? Seems our “representatives” have made that tiger quite wealthy.
Yes. In the case of appliances – a large number of Whirlpool appliances.
https://allamerican.org/investigation/whirlpool/
Specific location by type:
https://www.grandappliance.com/blog/whirlpool-appliances-manufacturing
Many things still are – it takes some digging to find some of them – but some things simply aren’t.
I’ve been concerned about bringing foreign companies into America. Seems unclean to me. If you haven’t already, please click on the link Sundance provides in the very first words of his article. “The foot bone connected to the ankle bone; the ankle bone connected to the leg bone; the leg bone connected to the knee bone; the knee bone connected to the thigh bone; the thigh bone connected to the hip bone . .” Do you get it? 😱
Hell, no I didn’t know that. Bought two GE appliances 6 months ago. The refrig we chose arrived, and I noticed the model number was not the one chosen. One or two letters at the end were different. Found out mine was made (or put together) in Canada for Canadian customers The model number I had purchased is the same as the Canadian version with one change in a part. That part had something to do with some law or regulation Canada placed on the product.
I consider myself to be knowledgeable and well read. While I have not been a fan of general electric for a long time, I had no idea they had become a chinese company. Eff ’em.
Canada has dramatically hiked duties on American steel imports after Donald Trump shut down trade talks.
The country imposed an import quota late Friday and if it is exceeded, certain US metal will face a new 50 percent surcharge.
Canada’s Finance Minister, François-Philippe Champagne, said the government was acting to protect domestic industry from ‘unjust US tariffs,’ NBC News reported.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14856549/canada-raises-duties-steel-imports-trump-tariffs.html
Isnt Canadian steel from China?
Yup.
That explains why our GE appliances are so badly made. Such a disappointment when you falsely think it’s at least a sort of American company. Never again.
I bought a “Haier conditioner” window unit from chynamart once – a noisy piece of junk that soon lost its cool… GE may return, but will they get their quality back?
at the rate ai and robotics are advancing there’s a high probability those newly created 800 jobs will dwindle to significantly less than 100 in just a few short years
Their brand names:
Who are the major appliance companies, who owns them, etc.
https://academy.fredsappliance.com/news/appliance-brands-owns/
Note – Whirlpool is the only remaining major appliance manufacturer that is American owned.
That is really funny!!!