In an effort to keep the Daily Open Thread a little more open topic we are going to start a new daily thread for “Presidential Politics”. Please use this thread to post anything relating to the Donald Trump Administration and Presidency.
This thread will refresh daily and appear above the Open Discussion Thread.
Posted in Uncategorized


Mrs. Ausonius this morning used an unfortunate barnyard epithet, after hearing an NBC reporter claim:
“Earlier this year, TRUMP threatened Canada with economic sanctions unless they became the 51st state.”
Yes, the fake news is relentless!
Undoubtedly less than 1% of the country heard the lie. Nevertheless, NBC continues its assault on Truth, along with the rest of the mendacious Communist Media.
On a related point, we have been rewatching the series Person of Interest concerning the existence of a massive computer run by the government to spy on everyone in the country.
A more salient series would be hard to find (rf. Palantir, et al.)
You still here?
Dear Mrs. Ausonius, please listen to James’ suggestion and stop watching NBC.
They take him literally, but not seriously, as always.
He was saying Canada gets all the benefits of statehood with none of the duties. Might as well be one.
Not to mention the Fentanyl Trade, the Child Sex Trafficking and the Chinee Feild Army operating there.
Thank you for the response, which counters the claims above from “James” and “Bruce.” 😇
Internet trolls, and especially Leftist trolls, have no sense of irony or subtlety! 🙂
I didn’t notice any trolls yesterday.
What could have possibly been “occupying” their time?
The trolls are always here so they can find out WTF’s actually going on
A: “No Kings but That Druid Pervert Charles!”
Do you think he bites the heads off of live chickens?
Sundance oftentimes writes articles, puts a link to CTH on X, and that brings in the Leftist trolls by the tandem bike full.
Clown car.
Tell the mrs’s to understand this; the conversation thread started when Truedope admiited a painful truth to PDJT, as part of a plea that the U.S. ease off on our demands.
Trudope said, if Canada had to pay fot their own Nzational defence, instead of freeloading, confident they were under our securuity blanket, and if thru reciprocal tariffs they were unable to benefit from unfair trade practtises, they simply could not function as a country.
And THATS when PDJT ,”Called” him on saying if thats true, everyone would be better off with Canada as a State.
Justin didn’t want to hear it, but its true.
Of coarse, the other alternative is to drop their stupid WOKE and GND policies..
And absolutely NO sense of humor. Drolls.
My pressure, sir!
“They take him literally”
There is a fine line between “taking him literally”, and just lying like hell…
I go with the latter….
Second vote here for Person of Interest. Best fiction I’ve seen to date imagining what could happen with AI, even though written more than ten years ago.
It’s sort of what Orwell’s fiction was to the tyranny he saw growing ahead.
The two lead actors are brilliant – Jim Caveziel of The Passion of the Christ and Michael Emerson of Lost.
Trump reied to a reporters leading question and only said “economic force”. You lie
CUT THE CORD
It was an excellent series, one of the few things on TV I used to watch with friends. Many have said art imitates life – but there are a number of things that feel much more like art describing future plans, as if a warning is being given.
Exactly!
Begs the question..Why doesn’t PT do something to reverse the Obama permission slip for MSM to propagandize the US citizens?
That’s what I’d like to know too.
At the sane time they are protesting the laughable “No Kings” they worship Big Gubmint and it’s waste, fraud and abuse.
There is no end to the number of complete contradictions in the Communist playbook. They are all laughable until they aren’t anymore. We had better be aware that, while their public behavior is laughable, they are and they have always been deadly serious about their intentions. And now we are in what they think is the final phase of their conquest of our country. The Chinese are going for broke because that is all they can do at this point. It is on, and we better stop laughing. Obama has been one of them since his Columbia University years. President Trump will either lead us out of the wilderness or we will be lost forever. I am praying for God to help our President get that done.
We had a no kings deal yesterday in Arizona….funny watching these misfits standing on the corner, jumping around….it was 110 degrees yesterday.
Same in SoCal, I’m in the San Fernando Valley and they had 3 street corners with boomers reliving their hippie days- I saw more people waiting in line at the grocery checkout that day. lol. Even the clerks said the store scheduled less workers because they thought most people would be protesting- but then they got called into work. lol.
I was in a Target store yesterday evening. It was dead. Only a couple of cashiers on duty, many customers using self-checkout with hardly any wait.
Target is normally hopping on the weekends. Especially with Father’s Day being the next day. So, I guess the woke Target shoppers were doing other things, too.
The target in my neighborhood is always dead since they lost their license to sell booze. lol.
I remember when 550 million was a lot of money and this story would have noticed.
Rush used to call legacy media the “drive-by” media. Like drive-by shooters, the goal is to create chaos rather than to establish an objective truth. Ahhh. I miss Rush.
I listened to Rush for years when I was on 2nd. I loved his voice imitations of the KKK Democrat gov Northum and the guy behind Obozocare Gruber who said the Democrats were to stupid to understand it.
WikiLeaks Exposes How Council on Foreign Relations Controls Most All Mainstream Media
A single organization controls almost everything you see, hear, and read in the media and they’ve been handpicking your leaders for decades.
Senator Everett Dirksen, a Republican from Illinois (!!! Back when that was possible!!!), once said in the early 1960’s:
” A billion dollars here, a billion dollars there, and suddenly you are talking real money!”
This was back when the U.S. Federal Budget had passed $100 Billion for the first time, early 1960’s.
He had a voice like a dying jet engine, but he was on target about this.
What would he say about TRILLIONS today?
We got to pay for their fancy wedding at Hunt Valley Country https://www.zola.com/wedding/naeandrod2021
I bet they are all registered Demorats too
Democrat Party, CCParty same difference.
Personal liability should be applied to the claw back.
Actionable fraud 😉
While we are at it abolish lobbyist ……but it always seems the DC politicians can’t do the simple things that would solve big problems.
morning Treepers……………………………………be well
Good morning, bjorkdream!
Thank you, you too!
Morning bjorkdream
Lush and beautiful. 🤩
Thank you
I hope you have a lovely Fathers Day.
Selective Law Enforcement has the potential to be our undoing.
I think selective law enforcement has been around since the dawn of mankind. But I get your point.
Allow me to suggest the most compelling component is the EXPOSURE
The outrage is inversely proportional to the lack of equivocal remediation (that would otherwise have a net effect of relative apathy)
Mealy-mouthed remediation greases/silences the squeaky wheel
Can felons vote in CA?
“Don’t ask, don’t tell”.. just like Michigan..
It’s against the law to show your ID when voting in California, so who would know if you are a from or not?
Ain’t gonna stop that crook!
Actually, Padilla should already be in prison, awaiting trial with no bail. And his living conditions should be worse than a death row murderer’s.
Are we going to get theatrics or arrests?
CONgress is theatrics, the DOJ should be the agency prosecuting crimes.
The American public has had just about enough regarding a lack of prosecutions, let alone convictions.
I agree Hoosier. Charley Reese and Pat Buchanan are the two who mainly taught me about the Hegelian Dialectic-Uniparty Political system here and in many other “Western” Christian nations.
Not accurate- Rockefeller doctors do this as SOP.
I watched the entire testimony of the 3 Sanctuary governors. I was disappointed that many of the Republicans used the ‘yes/no question’ ruse, just like the Dems do.
Walz & Hochul clearly lied in responding that they cooperate with federal law enforcement all the time. And both repeated this claim many times. I hope they can be charged with lying to Congress.
All 3 of the govs had no idea who many of the illegal-alien murderers were from their own state. For example, Laken Riley’s murderer was released from NY prison, and Hochul was ignorant when asked about him by name. Pritzker acted the same about a guy who ended the lives of 2 young women thru DUI hit & run.
I’ve heard Pritzker is currently the Dem’s ’28 Pres candidate, and Newsom is unknowingly there to take all the arrows. It makes me think they only consider candidates with big personal wealth, like there is an admission fee to becoming the chosen Dem candidate.
I really need to go fishing. Waiting for these people to Do The Right Things is shortening my lifespan. The disappointment is tangible and poisonous.
Fishing was an old mediation for me. You get to bird/nature watch also. I used to do that all the time.
My meditation is pulling weeds from my garden. It is refreshing.
Almost anything involving being outside in fresh air and surrounded by the God’s beautiful renditions called ‘nature’ are balm for the soul and cool refreshing waters for the mind.
You need to follow Sundance’s advice.
Live your best life.
The only thing you are required to wait for in life is a woman.
Well I’ve been doing what I can given my physical limitations. Being housebound about 3/4 of the time since early 2021 on account intermittently regulated acute chronic pain leaves me plenty of time for absorption of painful Reality, contemplation of such and frequent outbursts of sheer frustration.
Sorry to hear about your acute chronic pain Jinxy and pray the root cause is successfully addressed. Would suggest that even sitting outside, rather than inside, can help provide natures calming effect – particularly if combined with prayer and communing with our Lord and Savior.
Sit outside at dawn or sunset to receive the red light through your eyes. I’d been doing this right after sunset and it is really relaxing. Just a few minutes to “be still and know that I am God.”
Look up and read about DMSO, using for Scleroderma pain and it beats any pills the doc can give me.
My neighbor just got a bottle.. I will try some later.. Hat tip Dee!
So good!
By all means, DO!
And tthink about what you wrote, ..you are “WAITING”,..what does that mean?
Waiting for prosecutions, so you can then engage in some action or other?
What are you holding off on doing, whilevyou are waiting?
What tangible changes will you n yours experiene as a result of
prodecutions?
Worrying is unproductive, soul destroying behavior, often habitual.
PLANNING, is not. Are you just worrying or are you planning?
It’s difficult to have a good time when you realize the Republic we have let the Death Cult craft for our kids while we slept in the Matrix isn’t going to work out.
It’s a heavy bummer to wrap your head around the fact that we have one shot at this and pussyfooting around will have us wishing we were dead when the Democrats wrest power from Republican’ts who are apparently allergic to it.
Focus and put your angst to use, write thoughtful missives to your congressional critters with substantiation. Call their offices – daily. Use the current momentum to do the same on a local basis and try to get implemented protective changes. Don’t give up.
We don’t have as much money to give them as their lobbyists. Anyway, they weren’t hired to represent US.
No we don’t – but I for one never give up and am not going to sit idly by and guarantee that I will lose. No defeatism here.
If you think the public has ZERO affect, you are mistaken – but it takes a significant group of people or a significantly meaningful argument to make a difference and we all have to do our part.
Tangible and poisonous is the cure for apathy, which is why we ended up here in the first place
I would be a bit happier if more folks were disturbed by what I see coming.
BINGO….Folks are walking around…comfortably numb…with the 1000 yard stare…
I see it and feel it. I’m too old to do anything except pray and bitch about it. I turned my grand children red, as in MAGA, hoping that will be a lasting legacy. My prayers are with you. Go fishing. I wish I could.
I’d be a bit happier if the lo-info were even remotely AWARE of what should disturb them
I had to stop and shudder for about 5 minutes on Saturday morning, while reading the book of Job, upon realization that it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God, and then realizing God loved Job.
Come on up to The Land of the Midnight Sun, I need a fishing excursion too and I “earned” a few of my boats. Same for any other treepers.
Is Soro even a functioning today or is a a Weekend at Bernie’s
Soros will claim he is Jewish and Congress is Anti-semitic for picking on him.
You could do that with many others starting with Schumer & co who helped to use our stolen tax dollars to fund Hamas terrorists who murder innocent people, who are mostly Jewish. The Neocons have also tried that tactic.
The good Jewish people I grew up with were nothing like those people. They were some of the best people I ever had the privilege to know and be friends with. Reading Jack Cashill’s great book “Untenable” brings back allot of good old memories from that time period. Newark NJ’s large Jewish community suffered along with the Irish/Italian/German/Polish/Black communities when the Alinsky Democrat terrorists helped to destroy the city. Untold thousands became ethnically cleansed refugees. The large Jewish community that thrived there was destroyed by these same tactics that the fraud Schumer & Co are once again pushing. They attacked the Jews For Trump caravan in NYC a few years ago, to try and keep them in line like they did to the Blacks for decades for the Democrat side of the Uniparty HD system.
Bingo.
As we both know my friend, regardless of ethnicity, background, religion, or any other characteristic there are good people and evil people in any kind of demographic or other very large group.
Agreed but the good Jewish people have been especially used and abused. In fact the real perpetrators have misdirected the world onto them. The oldest and encompassing hegelian dialectic game of them all
Perhaps CK – however men, particularly those of us with low melanin and of particular heritage (even more so if Christian and/or not progressive), they have done their level best to very publicly, vociferously, and continuously worked to turn the entire world against, to the point that many such men become so pitiful and brainwashed that they perform severe self-abuse rituals and submit even their children to the same.
Yep.
The time for testifying before Congress is over. Soros and Singham need to be arrested and prosecuted.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Clowns on parade.
Should have brought Alex Soros in as well.
My bet is on theatrics.
Congress is oozing with wannabe actors who are not talented or attractive enough for Hollyweird.
Israel Issues Warnings to Iranian Civilians; Iran Targets Israeli Civilians
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/06/15/israel-issues-warnings-to-iranian-civilians-iran-targets-israeli-civilians/
what is up with Trump caving on deportations, just because it’s harming the farming and hospitality industries?
Because transitioning from that labor to American labor isn’t a light switch and he doesn’t want to crash the economy just to appease you.
Think of it akin to the process of downsizing by not replacing retirees. As Americans are able to replace those workers, they’ll be retired and deported.
Until then it’s better we maintain our national food production capacity in a time of global instability.
President Trump isn’t interested in the “perfect” solutions some idealogues push who act as if a hundred years of creeping communism can be reversed overnight. He is finding solutions that best help the American people while minimizing the shock (In the potentially lethal medical sense) that some of these changes would inflict if implemented all together all at once.
And playing into these “absolutes” just damages support for good solutions rather than absolute solutions. This isn’t going to happen overnight and he’s been in office for weeks as opposed to UniParty policies that have been in place for decades.
Yes. I don’t know how many whining complaints I have read on this board about “Trump capitulated to Big Ag and Big Hospitality”.
Sometimes, to save sectors of our economy, we will have to take correction in baby steps while in other sectors we can take a chain saw to them.
Best answer so far.
The economy is always changing. Even if it is/was on the wrong course, sudden manipulation by government may not be all that helpful.
Once upon a time, some of the most physical farm labor was not necessarily a low paying job. As a 16-17 year old in the seventies, there was this farm job called “hay hauling”. It meant moving hay from the field to the hay shed on a per-bale rate of pay. My older pals making minimum wage in town were knocking down what? About two bucks an hour?
But if you didn’t mind going to bed dead dog weary, you could make around $100 a day for maybe three days in a row if you were on a good crew. That was real money then. (It financed my biggest expenses, girls and street racing)
I tell this because we still need to give OUR young and low-skilled a shot at proving themselves. Government financed slavery (illegal immigration/flooding the market with foreigners) takes away that opportunity.
As I eventually developed my own skills, the relationships I made with those farmers/ranchers paid off down the road because they remembered me. That hay hauling was not only good cash, it was a foot in the door later.
If you actually think that any of the illegal aliens that are ignored will be gathered up and deported at some distant point in time, you are fooling only yourself. There is a very finite window for action and after that it will be over. The simple act of justifying there continued presence almost guarantees nothing will ever be done.
My view is quite different than yours regarding effects and reasons. For starters, in regards to farms there are existing laws in place which allow for LEGAL transient workers during the portions of the year they are needed.
In the hospitality industry the change over could occur almost overnight – they would just have to pay prevailing wages rather than slave wages.
At the core of my opinion though is the unerring view that illegal is illegal and the President is required by the Constitution to uphold the law, not make exceptions to it. There is also the understanding that there comes a time that the cancer is so bad that it must be cut out and eliminated, regardless of the pain and recovery time the operation causes.
A last point in the view is that NO industry will “crash” due to a loss of their illegal alien workers, as no industry has a large enough percentage of illegal alien workers to cause said crash, particularly when one takes into account that even if doing its level best, the number of illegal aliens captured and expelled in any given month is a fraction of the fraction that work in any given industry.
Here are the actual percentages:
Those numbers would raise the question – well, if it would somehow cause the industries in question to crash, then why wouldn’t the industry with the largest percentage (which is STILL small) not also crash?
BTW – ugh is hardly the only one that feels the same and in fact it was one of the biggest issues and reasons that PDJT won the election – he was given a massive MANDATE to eliminate the entire illegal alien population in this nation.
Many would self deport.
True – IF there was a consistent and very bright red line on the issue of “Illegal is illegal and ALL of you are going”, coupled with “NO illegal alien can receive a single penny of taxpayer dollars.”
However, when the policy at the top is wishy-washy and blown by the winds of monetary influence it only ENCOURAGES more to not do so and to stay or attempt to enter.
Stop funding those who aren’t here legally.
No food subsidies, no health care, and no options to attend our tax payer funded clinics or schools.
No rent assistance.
Problem solved.
Maybe they should give some thought to transitioning to robotics?
It will happen before you know it – shuffling around in a human touchless world. Give a hug and get a hug while you still can.
They All (illegals) still need to be identified, counted, vetted. For decades past we had guest/seasonal worker visas, etc. there are avenues for legal temp status, probably in existing immigration law to get to sanity. The lefts and “sanctuary”ballyhoo is so disgusting. There should be no-zero-nada state local fed freebies or welfare to any illegals. You commit crime, you are out. What ever happened to all the assurances of the employers being held accountable for illegal Alien enforcement —those mandatory documents we all have to fill out upon hire?
President Trump is navigating uncharted waters and there is no guide book. No recipe for success is written on a rock somewhere. Saving a country is a trial and error process. There will be lots of adjustments and revisions along the way. Ross Perot knew this as would any savvy businessman such as PDJT. The goal is an end product that works for everyone and the means to get there must be fluid.
Then why did he keep talking about deporting every illegal if elected POTUS, if he knew serving as POTUS was a trial and error game?
WHY DIDN’T HE FLIP FLOP AT EVERY CAMPAIGN STOP?
BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WOULD NOT GET ELECTED!!! SO, HE IS JUST ANOTHER POLITICIAN !
I am very up set about President Trump saying this. I know he needs to prioritize I get it. But I have heard on Fox that its like 23% of these workers are illegal. I get it that’s a lot to replace but I am sick and tired of these companies getting the benefit of slave labor. Raise your damn wages and then citizens will fill the jobs.
Perhaps an alternative is to ID every one of them (including photo, prints, DNA sample) and issue a Federal temporary work visa/permit/whatever and require the employer to withhold taxes.
If the employer fails to submit taxes, throw his or her ass in jail along with stiff fines.
If the worker jumps ship and goes to an under-the-table employer – find and deport the worker – with no chance of returning. The under-the-table employer employer should be fined or jailed or both.
Putting the onus of responsibility on the employer should negate the bleeding heart liberals’ whining……..
Yes. It’s something. Just do SOMETHING! The messaging from the President on this has been terrible, in my opinion. I agree with magatrump that our own citizens will work if the pay is not that of slave labor.
No taxes on tips.
Once Congress reduces the corporate tax rate down to 15% then the screws should be tightened on these businesses.
They get 15% once they raise their wages and hire Americans.
I agree.
For me the whole point is that non-Americans presumed to disregard our border, then act as if they had the right to do so.
It’s the principle.
Everyone acts like we’re not a sovereign nation, we’re the only ones who for some inexplicable reason don’t have the right to control our borders and decide who enters.
Either we get this right back- no matter how difficult – or it’s lost forever.
And that’s assuming we haven’t lost it already.
And don’t get me started on the Anchor Baby citizenship scam!
.
I believe he is being out front about this on the worker end, but dealing with those industry employers behind closed doors — squeezing them to start enforcing the ‘temporary’ nature of their labor needs such that the employers need to start paying for the legal processing of these workers through H2B visas, and being more proactive with getting these temporary workers back to their home countries (which many want to be) during the down time.
If laborers were not beholden to cartels to get them into the country, which then disincentivizes them from leaving and having to go back through such an ordeal over and over as temporary workers, the legal method already in place could be a win/win.
Also, the bringing of the whole family to live with a temporary worker here in these United States (which is the main source of the economic benefits that we taxpayers pay for) could be tamped down, as a family man who works here temporarily and goes back home during the off season, can better afford to maintain a family’s needs, including not subjecting them to the supposed terrors of ICE . . .
Why doesn’t our President ever talk about our H-2a and H-2b visas programs? If he needs to temporarily increase the number allowed, so be it. It’s a legal system already in place.
.
I think our VSGPDJT is setting the table for the employers to dig up the legal parameters for guest workers — he has given them hints and a bit of a timeline before he pulls the tablecloth from those employers who did not use that timeline to make things right for themselves, their workers, and these United States . . .
I’m more upset about him allowing 280000 chicom students…ugh…
That, too. But wasn’t he negotiating tariffs with China when he did this?
Never gonna happen.
Probably because only 10% of farm labor these days requires hands so that the number of people needed for farm labor is miniscule. However, the proponents of illegal immigration love to use the examples of poor, brown-skinned, stooped over, arthritic people who “pick our crops” for their propaganda. This robs them of it.
Ever work in housekeeping? I have. It is a good job to have, but most of us don’t want to live 18 to a room, when they pay slave wages. Most of us need to recognize there are people who are going to be used as slaves in the U.S., and if you are willing to do the job which will not support you or your family in your single family dwelling, have at it. Most employers recognize this fact and will not even look at your application for such. They expect more out of you as an American.
He doesn’t want to lose the Hispanic’s it seems. So lets include construction workers and day labor as well. Gee why are we even trying to deport, this will be with us for decades. Thankfully I won’t be.
The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack on Iran, tonight. If we are attacked in any way, shape or form by Iran, the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you at levels never seen before. However, we can easily get a deal done between Iran and Israel, and end this bloody conflict!!! President Trump – Truth Social
Always trying to be the peacemaker!!! But evil doesn’t make peace deals it must be destroyed!!! JMO
JMO.
“But evil doesn’t make peace deals it must be destroyed!!! ”
That goes for the 5,000+ Biden Executive Branch thugs who weaponized the federal government against Americans for the past 8 years …….. and haven’t been removed from the DOJ and the associated 3-letter departments by the b-bondi, patel, bongo, etc. team.
They have to be discharged, charged for the crimes they committed and prosecuted ……. President Trump promised that.
MAGA isn’t just our motto, it is our duty!
I must have missed the asterisk after “farm and hospitality workers” when Trump promised to deport all the illegal invaders at every one of campaign rallies.
Extremely disappointed here.
In you too, Sonny.
I hope you never set foot on a used car lot.
LOL
There is a practical reality to this. Just about everyone in America has stayed in a hotel that employs non-citizen workers to make the meals and clean the rooms. So we’re all equally guilty for allowing it. If they all got sent home tomorrow, multiple industries would collapse.
It’s not like there are 200,000 Americans waiting for jobs in the hotel industry. Not at the wages they pay, at any rate.
Better to do the raids and fine the businesses a large sum. We need to turn off the demand for illegal workers and increase the costs. If there’s no incentive to stay here, they’ll go home. We see outflows all the time during economic downturns.
The other problem is wages. “Jobs Americans won’t do” should always be followed by “for what they’re paying”. If we send the cheap labor home, wages have to come up. I’ll pay more for a hotel room if it means Americans get the jobs.
I certainly agree the business owners need to be the ones to go after. Enforce the laws about not hiring illegals and make sure there are strict penalties handed out for violations. Cut off the top of the chain. The illegals might just start to deport themselves if there aren’t any jobs anymore.
Also, maybe somehow raise wages for these jobs starting now so more Americans might want to do them and an exchange in those places of American citizens for the illegals begins. Build a strong guest worker program with again, very strict rules on how it is implemented. Payment in full perhaps, only when the job is completed and the workers are on their way across the border. Give them partial payments to cover living expenses while here working. The rest comes upon completion and return to their home countries.
There seems to be solutions but the govt. is not trying them. Why? Just leaving illegals here to work in some industries does not seem to be the best path to sending them out of our country.
I get it that mass deportation of those working right now in the many jobs in those industries would be a big immediate problem but it should not just be a blank ok you can stay with no other changes.
My experience with farm labor is Americans do not want to do the necessary work at any price. Plus, American workers are not fit to do the necessary work. It is a simple “don’t know how to do it”, “don’t want to do it” and “will not do it”…..
I “been there done that” and it is futile thinking by the naïve American public thinking it can be done.
I am sure people would do farm work if it paid enough.
I do farm work……….and for no pay at all. Usually I pay for the privilege.
Or, perhaps, hungry enough.
Regarding farm work or any type of hard work and the pay:
I work a job with some others; we are all paid the same wage. There is a portion of the work that is physically taxing. Guess who is the only one who will do it? One person and myself. There are people my age and much younger, and they will do anything to get out of doing it. Why? Because it’s hard work, and they are afraid of calluses. It’s part of the job; it’s going to get you the same pay (which is well above minimum wage), but that part is physically taxing, so they will do anything to have someone else do it.
For now luckily there are two American citizens willing to do the work, but what about later on?
Yes, yes, the pay, the illegals, yes, yes, yes….
BUT, we at some point have to admit that far to many of our own people have gotten really freaking soft, lazy, and entitled.
Specialties in growing squash, etc. They do excellent work.
I think that with regard to farm workers, its not low wage illegals or high wage U.S. Citisens.
Its low cost illegals vs Robots, with high initial cost, but greater productivity, etc.
If illegals become unavailable, farmers will be forced to shell out the large initial investment to lease/buy automated harvesting equipmemnt.
Thruout human history, it is tech improvemrnts that have increased productivity, from the plow and scythe, to tractor and Combine,…
Increasing productivity specifically meaning specifically increasing the amt of food one person coulfd produce..
Onevman with horse and plow, vs a man with a tractor, tractor vs combine, etc.
Automation in harvesting is already here, we have the technology, even for delicate produce like strawberries, and AI can assure picking at just the right time.
Its just expensive, and so long as illegals are available, farmers,, and farmer conglomerates will continue to use them, rather than pony up for AI Robotuc harvesting systems.
Unfortunately, this is yet another area where economics favors the conglomrates; they have the $ to initially make the switch, and once they do, smallder operstions enploying illegals (ironically!) won’t be able to compete, price-wise .
I’m sure there is at least one PAC out there funded by company CEOs and executives all around the U.S. that pay the politicians and law enforcement to NOT go after the people that hire the illegals. They’re here illegally and need to go. The CEOs don’t want to give up their huge mega million salaries and stock options so they hire illegals to keep labor costs low. I’m sure there are other reasons but labor is a big cost in any industry. The lower they keep the cost of labor the more money they get.
There is no reason for company executives to make 20, 50, or 100 times more than a regular employee. No reason at all. Most employees I’ve known can run circles around most executives I’ve known. The owner of a company should make as much money as possible, they own the company. But executives, no way.
We’d have to get millions of our citizens off welfare programs in order to incentivize them to get a job. We are shooting ourselves in the foot by subsidizing able-bodied people on the welfare programs…
Recently heard on a podcast on Civil War parallels then and now that the labor that the slaves mainly preformed in the 1800s was: farming, cooking, and cleaning (kinda like today’s hotel industry?). And that the Democrats back then “needed” this cheap labor for the economy. Now if only I can go back and find the podcast to give credit where it’s due … apologies for not having the source info ready at hand.
The North and its factories weren’t any better.
That explains today’s “uniparty”. Different names, but the same philosophy.
The North enslaved poor whites and their children
Lawncare, housekeepers, nannies and cooks. democrats and RINO’s are not self-sustainable.
It always bothered me that the Council On Foreign Relations through their control of the media was always able to hide the truth that the Civil War was political. Another trick they pulled off is hiding the Socialist roots of the Nazis. They were also bankrolled by Wall St by the same organization members who created the Middle East chessboard they hope to lead to WWIII, which was revealed to be the real reason for WWI.
No, I am not equally guilty because I ‘stayed in a hotel that employs non-citizen workers’.
PaulnotSaul: No am I.
You tolerate it. Therefore you’re a part of the problem.
Everyone pretends Rosalia the housekeeper isn’t who she probably is.
Your gaslight shaming doesn’t mean squat to me. Speak for yourself and practice what you preach. I don’t tolerate people like you trying to tell me who I am.
Don’t stay in hotels or motels…so much for that argument and the “everybody” exaggeration that accompanied it.
People tolerate it because some of these workers actually have their legal work permits. We can’t differentiate by just looking at them. In an ideal world we should be able to trust that the business is NOT breaking the law.
A measured approach would be to fill out all those stupid surveys we get and ask if all their workers are legal. State that if not, you will tell all your friends and won’t be a future customer. At a minimum it might cause them to stop with the customer satisfaction surveys.
Mostly agree and your latter idea is a good one that might actually help – and could help even more if its sent to the corporate level management via their website (if it’s a large chain, which most are).
So would during check out asking them if they are aware of any hotels in the area that only employ American workers so that the next time one stops in the area they can stay there instead…
(No, they wouldn’t be likely to actually answer, but it gets the message across and causing them to think)
Well said Hokkoda!
Happy Fathers’ Day Treepers!
Disagree with your alarm bells regarding collapse – see my reply to someone else up thread as to why.
We have H-2A and H-2B visa work programs. Someone please explain to me why those won’t work. Sure, it’s involved, and might be necessary to increase the number allowed. But . . . IT. IS. LEGAL.
PT needs to fix those 2 visas programs . They are abused by the likes of the Musk type. Too many Indians getting jobs citizens should get.
Are you thinking about H-1B visas, which usually require degrees for specialty occupations? That’s what Musk uses.
H-2A and H-2B visas do not require college degrees. Those are for agriculture, resort work, etc.
Yes, abused. If employers were forced to pay prevailing wages or wages commensurate with experience to those visa holders, then those employers would have many qualified Americans lined up for those jobs.
Get over it …. these industries and a few other service based industries had been hosting Foreign Workers under work visa programs from over the past 75 years … with NOBODY complaining.
The problem is that over the past 25 years … the 1,000 of jobs filled by Foreign Workers have started to go UNFILLED in progressively larger number because there is more money to be had being an illegal living on welfare in Democrat Run Bastions.
In parallel, parents and their children over those same 25+ years have been brainwashed to NOT participate “summer, part time jobs” due to some made up social stigma attached to “working those jobs”. There is a massive change of mind set required to redress this situation.
I would have no issue with program containing an offer being made for illegals to accept being “re-categorize” as a Resident foreign Worker.
As for the professional ranks … there has to be a rationale discussion because there are truths being stated on both sides of this argument that need to be addressed.
For those hurling the “TACO” insult, wake up to reality and go back to 2018 to study President Trump’s 14-Point Immigration Reform plan. He offered a path to citizenship for over 15 Million DACA’s in return for adoption of his plan. There has to be a more practical and yes humane path to solving the problem of over 75 MILLION Illegals in the US.
I am glad to see that President Trump has the courage to adjust his plans and visions as each of those hits REALITY and dictates that something new is needed. Granted his decisions are a relative astronomical level compared the every day person … but the best of leaders and best of people are those able to assess their actions with an eye towards how to improve.
“service based industries had been hosting Foreign Workers under work visa programs”
A HUGE difference between work visa programs and illegal alien workers.
Roll over to industry pressure of CEOs so that they can continue to make large scale profits isn’t admirable as you have tried to couch it.
Agree. Especially about rolling over from the pressure by CEO’s, probably via AG Sec, Brooke Rollins.
Yes, I have “hurled” the TACO insult. Not proud if it but so mad at our President that he made remarks about protecting these illegal immigrants, with no further explanation, except that en EO is forthcoming. He is a courageous leader and I support him. Doesn’t mean we can’t get upset and react to something he says or does. He does have a history of being swayed into making some bad decisions, often due to not enough information from his advisors. I hope this is not one of them.
You’re quite correct CC – disagreeing with someone on a matter does not in any way negate the support on a majority of things, any more than disagreeing with someone in a personal relationship somehow means you no longer care about them or are withdrawing all support for them. We also all get passionate at times about that which we strongly think, believe, or feel – even to the point of saying things we might later wish we hadn’t. Mature adults understand that and put it behind them, not allowing it to color the greater part of the whole.
Unfortunately some people think it is 100% for or you are on the other side of everything. Never, ever allow the crowd to make you back off or cower from what you see to be true or right or just.
Appreciate your post.
Promises made, Promises not kept.
Let’s see, H1B visas are ok because Americans not smart enough; Chinese students ok because Americans not smart enough; stop raiding agribusiness (owned by Chinese) and hotels because Americans don’t want to work.
I am very disappointed in Trump.
{‘m disappointed that you can’t see the big picture.
.
Child sitting down to birthday party dinner: “But where is the cake?! You said there would be cake!”
.
…am reminded of recent conversations and comments.
Parent to child: “Your a1c is 6.1 at 6 years of age.”
The entire Federal Government, all three branches, from POTUS on down, are beholden to the mob {Federal Reserve Bank}.
We The People,
And Our Public Monies {OPM},
Have been subjects {indentured servants} to a Government…
Of the mob…
By the mob…
And
For the mob…
Since 1913.
We The People are the sovereign Constitutional authority of The United States Of America.
ALL US Dollars are “Public Monies”.
RICO the Federal Reserve.
We The People keep the equity {cash} aka Our Public Monies…
And
The corrupt, money laundering {RICO}, currency manipulating {inflation}, enemy aiding and abetting {Chyna} criminal enterprise known as the Federal Reserve Bank…
Keeps the debt/IOU {$36T}.
Excluding the Armed Forces,
Under the Constitution,
The Federal Government should employ less than a thousand employees.
RICO the “Fed”…
Problem solved.
In God We Trust
{All others pay cash}
Trust God
Fear not
I am 100% with you littleflower…I have been lambasted on X for my perspective like yours as well…Either we are 100% American worker or not…We have been fed a bunch of crap for 50 years that “Americans won’t do these jobs so we must rely on foreign labor”. Bull. I won’t buy that supposition anymore. It’s CHEAP ILLEGAL labor. Full stop. And Big Ag, construction, hospitality have been making HUGE profit margins for YEARS on this…the Chamber of Commerce has actually gotten the American people to believe it..that this type of work is something American’s will not do…then in the 2000’s the drum beat for the STEM workers started and we now need to use H1B Visa’s…now the entire tech industry is screwed. Have you looked at the blue collar industry lately? How about Truck Drivers? Replacement theory in FULL SWING… I won’t even get started on the offshoring of soo many jobs…
.I have seen many interviews with DJT. over the years. He clearly believes BOTH premises above. Including that we need to import more Chinese students because withouth out them, well American is just lacking….What conclusion can one come to? Is Trump misinformed? Or does he not care about the American worker?
It is just now dawning on you, even after Obama proclaimed, “But WHO will empty our chamber pots?”
Badgerland,
“I must have missed the asterisk after “farm and hospitality workers” when Trump promised to deport all the illegal invaders.”
Not sure about the snarky missing “asterisk”, but here are the facts.
President Trump’s comments relate to nothing more than the long standing “Temporary (nonimmigrant) workers visa.
In order for you to come to the United States lawfully as a nonimmigrant to work temporarily, your prospective employer must generally file a nonimmigrant petition on your behalf with USCIS1 ….. it has been in place for over a century (see the history below).
The communist biden administration stopped processing and requiring the permits —- so some farmers have ended up with long term workers that need to have their papers approved.
In my opinion, President Trump is just saying they will correct what biden did and allow famers to resubmit their paperwork for long term workers.
He is not going to allow it to be a loophole for the nuevo, criminal illegals.
Promises made, promises kept …… both on removing illegals and correcting the failed processes of the communist biden administration that are hurting law abiding farmers and hospitality industries.
Have a great MAGA DAY!
_____________________
Here is the history of the temporary worker visa:
“The history of foreign worker visas in the United States dates back to the early 20th century, when the country was experiencing a shortage of labor in certain industries.
In 1917, the U.S. government introduced the first temporary worker visa program, called the H-2 program, which allowed foreign workers to enter the country to work in agriculture.
Over the years, the U.S. government introduced other temporary worker visa programs, including the H-1 program for skilled workers in 1952, the L-1 program for intra-company transfers in 1970, and the 0-1 program for individuals with extraordinary abilities in 1990.
The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986 also created the H-2A program for agricultural workers, and the H-2B program for non-agricultural seasonal workers.
A temp or seasonal worker can merely walk off the job and disappear into an ethnic enclave (barrio) to remain in the U.S. indefinitely. Enforcement of the rules, if there are any in the first place, is an illusion.
“Some people don’t follow the rules, so we shouldn’t have any rules or should allow everyone to ignore all the rules.”
Did I get that right?
Just saying if we have rules we need good enforcement and accountability. That would equally apply to the employers. But short of treating the farmworkers inhumanely as chain gang prisoners, I don’t see a solution to disappearing temp workers.
They are supposed to identify themselves.
President Trump made the remark(s) that these illegal immigrants (my words because I don’t have the clip at this moment), many have been here for twenty years or more. He went on to make it sound like we can’t just uproot the farmers system (of illegal labor), that we need to “do something” for these people and that an EO will be coming. I was shocked. But my point, in response to your post, is that this goes way back before Biden. I hope you are right about farmers just resubmitting their paperwork, but I don’t think that is what this is about.
Let’s get the bad illegals first. They can cause a lot of harm.
It’s going to take a while to deport 15 to 20 million illegals.
Tom Homan has a great plan, let him work it.
Tweets by USTechWorkers
Amen.
You believe anything the NY Times (known propaganda outlet) publishes?
Between this bs and all the “disappointed” voters, we are getting a double barrel dose of gaslighting.
Thanks for this post.
Get over it.
Very appropriate for today my friend. Very well done.
Cheers my friend!
Importing foreigners is how Rome fell. They brought in the people who would later rise up and destroy them. All for some ‘cheap labor’ doing the scut work the Romans thought they were too good to do.
Iran Admits Israel Has Infiltrated the “Highest Offices” of Its Government – Even Counter-Espionage Units Are Filled with Israeli Agents
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/shock-report-iran-admits-israel-has-infiltrated-highest/
Sounds familiar..
I thought was supposed to be MAGA modus operandi? I thought we were behind every potted plant?
It’s Fathers Day. Today I’m suppose to be a King. I guess it will be another No Kings Day for I have to go now and change the oil in my rigs, take the dogs out for a hike, then do the yard work and get the BBQ ready.
Servant headship
Better than being a Queen for a Day!
That was a good No Kings Day and there was even a Riot.
I got the oil changed.
Put in an 8 mile hike with my two dogs, Lexi and Patriot aka Riot. Patriot aka Riot was born on the 4th of July.
Cleaned up the chicken coop and fed and watered the little monsters
Did my yard work
Gave the dogs a bath, brushing, nail trim and the long haired one got a trim.
BBQ a couple of steaks.
Typical Fathers Day around here.
I hope the rest of you dads had as fulfilling of a day as I’ve had.
Happy Fathers Day to President Trump, for as full as my day was, I know his much more intense.
Shanghai Billionaire’s Chinese Communist Party Network Fuels America’s Anti-ICE Riots
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/exposed-shanghai-billionaires-chinese-communist-party-network-fuels/
Their virus installed their Senile Manchurian Puppet who then opened the southern border.
“No Kings Protest Funded By China” – Inside The BILLION DOLLAR Dark Money Funding America’s Protests (10:08)
14 Jun 2025
O’Keefe Undercover in LA: “No Kings” Protesters Recruited by Communist Group, Graffiti Near Feds (4:53)
O’Keefe Media Group
14 Jun 2025
From Agroterrorism to Bioweapons Research: How the CCP Infiltrates the West | Sam Cooper (1:03:14)
American Thought Leaders – The Epoch Times
14 Jun 2025
Most of this Amexica problems could have been stopped back in the 90’s when the GOPe controlled the House & Senate but sat on their hands on fixing the immigration problem they do not want to fix as they were too busy helping their friend China Bill Clinton pass every treasonous Free Trade deal and China tech transfers they could.
—————————————-
June 12, 2006 Illegal Immigration
Former Governor Pete Wilson talked about “Illegal Immigration: Past, Present, and Future.” In 1994, Governor Pete Wilson was re-elected in the California gubernatorial elections. During that same election, California’s voters agreed to Proposition 187, which attempted to stem the flow of illegal immigrants by denying them access to non-emergency public services. Controversy erupted nation-wide at the time over the issue.
https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/illegal-immigration/159263
Armando Navarro, Prof. Ethnic Studies, UC Riverside at Latino Summit Response to Prop 187, UC Riverside, 1/1995
“These are the critical years for us as a Latino community. We’re in a state of transition. And that transformation is called ‘the browning of America’. Latinos are now becoming the majority. Because I know that time and history is on the side of the Chicano/Latino community. It is changing in the future and in the present the balance of power of this nation. It’s a game – it’s a game of power – who controls it. You (to MEChA students) are like the generals that command armies. We’re in a state of war. This Proposition 187 is a declaration of war against the Latino/Chicano community of this country. They know the demographics. They know that history and time is on our side. As one community, as one people, as one nation within a nation as the community that we are, the Chicano/Latino community of this nation. What this means is a transfer of power. It means control.”
California. “Ballot Propositions.” Yeah, whatever. Voting for them never makes anything happen. Except to keep a handful of people employed, declaring that everything in the known universe “causes cancer and other reproductive harm.” As though they knew. Better stay clear of that sawdust, pal – it’s gonna getcha! 🤡
Prop 187 was overturned by a Judge IIRC. ?
There were 2-more very real opportunities missed … the 2006 BROKEN Promise by the Republican Congress when Bush II GRANTED amnesty and again in 2018, when the Republican Congress REFUSED to deal with President Trump when he offered “a path to citizenship for DACA’s in exchange for adopting his 14-Point Immigration Reform Plan.
This bigger issue goes beyond the “Professional H1B’s”, there are literally 10’s of millions here as economically recruited DEMOCRAT Voters who need to be addressed in a manner beyond impractical brute force methods.
Americans Ambushed: Immigration Rally, July 4th, 1996
Note that in the beginning of the video the name Ezola Foster is mentioned as they were protesting an appearance by her. She was a Black woman who was Christian and Populist-Conservative. Later she was Pat Buchanan’s VP candidate on his 2000 Reform party Presidential candidacy. No mockingbird media attention of her being a woman,Black, and VP candidate because she had the right gender,& color, but the wrong political beliefs and she was a devout Christian.
I guess we need to start harvesting eggs and sperms if we want to retain the genes.
You white people are too decrepit to spawn. Just look at yourselves! We have great grandparents raising their progeny because TWO GENERATIONS WERE TOO WORTHLESS TO DO IT!
Human sterility was predicted in the 1970’s, that is what was told to some people abducted by Aliens or Angels take your pick which ones they truly are
On Iran;
Why Iran’s economy is shutting down
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114687664442020232
I was told once the Shia Muslims are crushed than the united Muslims under fake Islamic Wahabbists would fully turn on the Christian nations that support Israel and Israel itself. The non-radical Muslim nations were the ones taken out even in Bosnia and radicals assisted to power there and in stolen Kosovo-terrorists in reality. Like a new European Taliban.
In the Middle East the same was done with secular Iraq, secular Syria, support for Sunni muslims in secular Lebanon to destabilize it with its large Christian community, Libya etc
If what I was told is wrong, it sure looks like its correct.
CK, far too many guzzle the koolaid that is poured out to the masses, then like the Jim Jones group, lay down and die.
Syria and Libya are the biggest examples, but Iraq as well to a large degree. All went from countries that Christians and others co-existed within with predominately secular governments to hell holes of warring Islamic factions and saw their societies and civilizations sent back in time hundreds – if not in some aspects thousands – of years.
Groups such as the Yazidi in Iraq were almost wiped from existence and the surviving women went through unspeakable horrors. Now in Syria Christians are being slaughtered wholesale, as are any who don’t submit to the Islamic madness.
Did you ever read my “Fools Crusade” quote from the author about who the US backs as far as Muslims go? In Bosnia, the Muslims who are really Serbs who converted, there were 2 factions. One secular and one hardcore Islamist. Guess who the Nazi-Nato-Clinton Admin backed against our old friends and allies the Serbs in Bosnia? The Islamists. This pattern has been repeated over and over. As I’ve covered also, the US-NATO ordered their Islamist Izetbegovic to rip up the peace treaty that had already been signed by the Bosnian Serbs,Bosnian Croats, and Bosnian Muslims-Izetbegovic himself, proving that the US/NATO-Izetbegovic started the Bosnian War not the Bosnian Serbs as Op Mockingbird media says.
History repeating….same playbook
being used now.
Mike Benz had recent animation regarding
Syria!
He breaks down Mike Morrell -Charlie Rose interview.
Jeez…just short of a confession! 😖🤬
Excellent video….! 👏👏👍👍
Highly recommend . Very informative!👩🏫👩🏫
Add to his animation….
10% of Syria was Christian before 2011.
Result of “installed” regime change imports….
re— Morrell- Rose interview.
Was only about 300k Christians left…✝️💔
Recent regime attempt change succeeded…
with usual “help”.
New “leadership “ is now lowering
numbers of Christians…😖
4:15 minute video
Ex-Amb. Ford: UK, US trained ex-ISIS al-Jolani for political integration. – YouTube
In my mind Turkey is the big question. They began moving away from western secular gov under Erdogan, but have remained fairly stable.
How long can this last?
twitter – Douglas Macgregor
In the last 72 hours, Israel launched a preemptive strike against Iran when negotiations between Washington and Tehran were still ongoing.
Iran was caught off-guard. But Iran recovered more quickly from its Pearl Harbor moment than Israel expected.
In less than 18 hours after Israel’s surprise attack, Iran responded firing hundreds of ballistic missiles including hypersonic missiles into central Tel Aviv and across Israel.
Meanwhile, Israel’s Iron Dome failed.
Israeli intelligence failed. Now Netanyahu is pleading with Washington to intervene with American Military Power to rescue Israel from certain defeat; a defeat Netanyahu crafted with encouragement from Washington.
At the same time, Russia, China, Pakistan and most of the Muslim World are rallying to Iran’s defense.
Supplies, equipment and technical assistance are pouring into Iran.
It’s time for a reality check:
Washington burned through $12 trillion in the Middle East since 2003. Result? 7,000 dead Americans. 50,000 wounded, open borders and 100,000 Americans dying yearly from Fentanyl poisoning.
Today, the United States is $37 trillion in debt, a sum that does not include so-called “agency debt.” 77 million Americans voted for President Trump because he promised to end the overseas conflicts and halt the march to WW3.
Trump’s mandate is unchanged: Secure America’s borders, ports and coastal waters. Deport illegal aliens, crush the criminals r-ping and murdering Americans. Restore the rule of law. But not one more drop of American blood for foreign wars.
One Israeli strike on Kharg Island—where 90% of Iran’s oil exports flow—or Bandar Abbas terminals, and Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz. That’s 20% of global oil supply.
That means disrupted supply chains and runaway inflation. Gas hits $7/gallon overnight. Every working family crushed. Truckers can’t deliver food. Economy crashes. For what? So Israel that started this insane war can drag Americans into a wider regional conflict with the potential for nuclear war?
We have 40,000 troops in UAE, Qatar, across the Persian Gulf. They are sitting ducks. Iranian Shahed-136 Drones cost $20,000 each. American Patriot Missiles cost $4 million per interceptor.
Do the math. We will run through our inventory of missiles and go broke while Americans come home in boxes.
The Middle East is on the brink. Here’s what Washington must do to defuse conflict:
1. Ask for an Emergency UN Security Council meeting. Ask for an Immediate ceasefire making it clear that Washington opposes the destruction of Iran, Israel and any other state in the Middle East.
2. Demand that Israel stop the killing of Palestinians in Gaza and withdraw its forces from Gaza and the West Bank.
3. Suspend all military aid to Israel until Israel agrees to remove its troops from Gaza and permit humanitarian assistance to reach the people of Gaza.
4. Propose the commitment of Armed Forces from non-aligned nations to police Gaza and the West Bank. 5. Propose that the United States, Russia, China, India and Brazil convene a peace conference to arbitrate the dispute between Israel, Iran and Israel’s neighbors.
I led American Soldiers under fire into action. I’ve seen plenty of flag-draped coffins. I don’t want to see any more. Washington’s warmongers had 22 years. They failed. They lied.
They profited while America bled. Time’s up.
America First means AMERICA FIRST. Not Israel first. Not Ukraine first. Not NATO first. AMERICA FIRST.
https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1934083238630154312
================================
JUNE 15 2025
===========================
==========================
======================
===================
JUNE 2009
USA
BROOKINGS INSTITUTION
PAGE 12
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Introduction
The Trouble with Tehran: U.S. Policy Options toward Iran
Part I
Dissuading Tehran: The Diplomatic Options
Chapter 1: An Offer Iran Shouldn’t Refuse: Persuasion
Chapter 2: Tempting Tehran: The Engagement Option
Part II
Disarming Tehran: The Military Options
Chapter 3: Going All the Way: Invasion
Chapter 4: The Osiraq Option: Airstrikes
Chapter 5: Leave it to Bibi: Allowing or Encouraging an Israeli Military Strike
Part III
Toppling Tehran: Regime Change
Chapter 6: The Velvet Revolution: Supporting a Popular Uprising
Chapter 7: Inspiring an Insurgency: Supporting Iranian Minority and Opposition Groups
Chapter 8: The Coup: Supporting a Military Move Against the Regime
Part IV
Deterring Tehran: Containment
Chapter 9: Accepting the Unacceptable: Containment
Conclusion
Crafting an Integrated Iran Policy: Connecting the Options
( PDF ) 170 pages
download :
https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf
Thanks!
Much discussion about brookings report
….finally! All over the web!
Requires reading and comprehension.
Propaganda media …incapable of both…
They will never mention….wonder why?🤣🤣🤣
They have probably been “grooming “
replacement for years…again.
Never ends well….for the people – ask ✝️ in Syria.
4 minute clip
Ex-Amb. Ford: UK, US trained ex-ISIS al-Jolani for political integration. – YouTube
And training/funding new group of
their Color Revolutionaries like
Al-Jolani once was….😉😉😖😖
for maneuvers in Iran.
🤷♀️
See Mike Benz recent animation on
interview Mike Morrell-Charlie Rose.
😳 😳 😬
Even the blind can see..same playbook
🧑🦯 👩🦯 🧑🦯
Your reality check bounced.
F the UN!
Would disagree with his assessment that “Meanwhile, Israel’s Iron Dome failed.“
It was known to not be 100% effective and the success rate has remained in the 85% or higher range. If it was not so effective, much of Tel Aviv and other cities would be nothing but a massive pile of rubble.
It’s one weakness has been with terminal hypersonics. – and from a system standpoint an apparent utter lack of close-in defense systems to eliminate what isn’t stopped by the interceptors. The US hopefully learns from the lessons that have been given and incorporate close-in defense systems to augment “dome systems” and returns to layered defensive systems.
================================
‘We don’t believe them!’
FM Araghchi claims Iran has ‘conclusive evidence’ linking US to Israeli strikes.
Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi stated that Israel’s attacks on Iran could not have occurred without the agreement and support of the United States.
He claimed Iran possesses conclusive evidence showing that American forces and bases in the region supported the Israeli military operations.
President Donald Trump denied any American involvement in the attack on Iran, saying: “The US had nothing to do with the attack on Iran, tonight.”
================================

Matthew 1
As believers, the Israelis are our family.
And the Iranian People are our friends. But the Ayatollahs are God’s enemies. And that makes them our enemies.
What you are seeing is the Dismantling of the Hellish Agenda of Barry O, Princess of Persia.
He wasn’t installed to wreck America as is commonly thought; that was just a bonus. He was installed to prop up the Mullahs’ Dictatorship and to hunt down Jews. It has gotten so bad in Evil Clown World that Obama is now asking the Ayatollahs for billions in USAID funding for a change.
Ancient Israel was rebuilt because of the Persians and there has been a covenant there since the days of Esther and Cyrus.
The Iranian People, who are the fastest-growing Church in the world, now have a chance to be free and reach their God-given destinies–thanks to Israel!
Thank You, Lord!:
Special Intelligence Briefing on Iran & Israel War With Robin Bullock & Steve Shultz – ElijahStreams:
Psalm 121
3 He will not let your foot slip;
He who keeps you will not slumber.
4 Behold, He who guards Israel
shall neither slumber nor sleep.
5 The Lord is your guardian;
the Lord is your shade at your right hand.
Hallelujah!
Rest in the Vine: Eternal Israel
.
JUNE 15 2025
Interesting concept. Put military HQ under a hospital…
WHERE Have we SEEN THIS ?????
JUNE 15 2025
Graham and Blumenthal Join Margaret Brennan
to Discuss Iran and their Russia Sanctions Bill
( 15 min 12 )
JUNE 15 2025
Thanks!
Great compilation of views and news!
Me— going to enjoy my Day!
Live your best life – as Sundance says!
For you…maybe more chips and beverage! 👏
laugh -smile 😄
No kidding…I actually have a pair of doves
that during last week have started building nest
🪺 in a tree.. right in plain view from my windows and
yard!
Doves🕊️🕊️—
👊 👏 👍
🙂 🙂 🙂
drinking Cinzano now
! 😳 😳 !
Interesting twitter account too.
To achieve true long term peace, the Israelis must be free to finish the job.
In addition to building nuclear weapons to annihilate Israel (and us), the Supreme Iranian Nazi has specifically targeted Israeli civilian populations in order to kill as many people as possible.
Pure evil. In doing so, HE has escalated the war while begging for help behind the scenes.
An evil coward who’s paying the price.
The Israelis are not only defending their country and lives, but fighting a righteous war for the rest of the world.
=========================
JUNE 15 2025
FOX News
GET RID OF THEM’: Exiled crown prince reveals why Iranian regime is weaker than ever
…the Iranian regime can be toppled and why the Iranian people are the ‘boots on the ground’ needed to overthrow the regime.
( 12 min 12 )
Devastating scenes from the impact site in Haifa, Northern Israel.
https://twitter.com/MonitorX99800/status/1934316166308098281
———————————————–
LOOKS Like HIS FATHER.
HOPEFULLY Won’t Be BEHOLDEN to MI 6 and the CEE EYE A LIKE His FATHER !
Good! They deserve a little dish served cold.
.
I’m watching the US Open and saw the funniest ad ever. It was a CNN ad, at the end it had this:
“Follow the facts,
Follow CNN”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Selective ‘facts’. Not truth.
CIA Mockingbird “facts”.
Facts over truth!
Follow CNN: be the first to get the latest talking points! Learn how you too can fight nazis and help defenseless gang-bangers!
We at CNN strive to give you all the “facts” you need to carry on the good fight!
CNN – we make the NY Times seem honest.
Standard operating procedure: come here illegally for economic reasons, claim asylum, stay here for years waiting to be processed, maybe knock up another illegal in the mean time and pop out a US citizen who can then keep you here and then chain migrate all of your relatives… With 22 million illegals already here, even if THAT is somehow fixed tomorrow, we’re still screwed.
‘Quite a shock’: Small business owner says ICE detained a third of his employees
The owner said it takes not only a financial toll, but an emotional one.
June 10, 2025
https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/small-business-owner-says-ice-detained-a-third-of-his-employees/3634370/
Six workers in the Lower Keys who were detained by immigration agents are now sitting in jail. Now, many are wondering why this happened in the first place.
“They are legally here. They have an authorization to stay,” said Regilucia Smith, the attorney of the men, who are from Nicaragua.
Smith says it should not have happened because five of the six have their paperwork in order with pending asylum cases.
“Valid work permit, not even close to be expired,” she said. “… again, no criminal records, not here, not in Nicaragua.”
“It was pretty obvious from the beginning that they were pulled over simply because they were six Latino men in a work truck,” said Virgil Scardina, who works with them.
Given his support for President Donald Trump, we asked what he would tell the commander in chief if he had a chance.
“What happened here? This situation is just totally just blatantly not at all what they said it was,” he said.
While Vincent agrees with most of the president’s policies, he thought the Trump administration was going to focus solely on deporting criminals. It seems immigration officials, he says, are just trying to meet quotas.
“It’s not just happening to me. I mean, it’s happening across the board to several contractors,” he said. “I know they’re all being hit by this hard. I know of one landscaper that lost nine or 10 of his whole crew he had and he’s just totally out of business all of a sudden, just like that.”
————–
Q: On average, how long does it take for the asylum cases of aliens’ who entered the US illegally and requesting asylum to be processed.
Grok: As of recent data, the average wait time for an immigration court hearing is approximately 4.3 to 4.5 years (1,572 to 1,621 days) for asylum cases. However, total case resolution can take longer, often up to 7 years or more, depending on appeals, case complexity, and court backlogs. By late 2022, there were over 1.5 million pending asylum cases in immigration courts, contributing to these delays.
Simple solution: hire Americans and Legals.
Not so simple … for over 25+ years US workers have been brainwashed to forgo those jobs … most of those jobs used to be part-time entry level jobs for 18-22 year olds. The unemployment data from Obama’s years were most telling … this age demographic actually lead the way in numbers unemployed, mainly because over the 1990’s they were convinced that these jobs were below them as well as their increasingly poor job performance when they were hired.
A major mind set change is needed by this demographic, which is slowly occurring and they need to convince business owners the mind set has indeed changed.
Part of the problem is lax parenting where kids endlessly sit with cell or computer growing fat and lazy. Low expectations abound. Plus both parents in the workforce doesn’t help with raising the next generation.
Or parents who think their kids are just to ‘special’. 🙄 Had neighbors with a teenage son (16). To special to shovel out the car after a snow storm, so they paid some guys and the mother, father and son watched them.
“Because of my son’s AD.”
IF YOU WOULD HAVE KICKED HIM IN THE ASS AT AGE SIX HE WOULD BE FOCUSED NOW!
Vaccines cause neurologic/ brain damage that ass kicking just doesn’t fix.
It just makes the brain damaged kids rageful.
Hoe that line!
…really not that simple as you will go out of business.
That is just a reality created by our own inane policy. Calif history of lost trade to illegals immigration farmwork – landscaping, turned to construction; first material handling then framing and so on to now an ever large percentage of every trade and labor is illegal immigrants, invited in by our own government.
I was pleasantly surprised when I moved from SoCal to Arizona and when hiring repairmen, white repairmen showed up instead of the SoCal Spanish-only speakers. They ran the white repairmen and construction workers right out of California.
I moved from a foreign land (SoCal) to Arizona and am so very glad to be back in America again!
Forgot roofing …pool instillation
That would require a formal change to immigration laws relating to asylum and courts including the SCOTUS would fight any effort to make that retroactive.
“Ex post facto refers to laws that apply retroactively, changing the legal consequences of actions that were committed before the law was enacted. In the United States, such laws are prohibited by the Constitution to protect individuals from being punished for actions that were legal at the time they were performed.”
“But they’re not citizens, so they’re not protected by the Constitution” and then that whole can of worms is brought up which even encompasses birthright citizenship which should also be nixed.
The Wall Street and Chamber of Commerce owners of CONgress with only 20 to 30 true MAGA among the 535 there according to Bannon (and I agree) ain’t gonna’ allow that. The Blob/Deep State is also heavily involved because they are for globalism/corporatism which requires the destruction of cultures which define a nation far more than just lines on a map.
There are no simple solutions with the obstacles in place.
This is one of those times when a police state dictatorship would come in handy, but we know the downsides of that.
Actually, this might be used to imprison employers, sanctuary city and state mayors and governors, and NGOs violating it although the “seeking asylum” BS might prevent that:
8 U.S. Code § 1324 – Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324
Oh boo hoo.
Q: How many pending asylum cases exist in the US in 2025?
Grok: As of December 31, 2024, there were 1,446,908 affirmative asylum applications pending with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). Additionally, at the end of fiscal year 2024, there were 1,478,623 defensive asylum applications pending in U.S. immigration courts. This totals approximately 2,925,531 pending asylum cases in the United States. The overall backlog in immigration courts, including non-asylum cases, reached over 3.7 million open removal cases as of January 31, 2025.
Q: What is the birth rate for illegal alien women in the US?
Grok: Recent, reliable data on birth rates specifically for undocumented immigrant women in the U.S. is limited [of course it isn’t, by design – W], as most sources don’t break down fertility rates by legal status in recent years. The most comprehensive data comes from older studies, primarily from the early 2000s to 2016, and some estimates are based on the broader immigrant population.
A 2005 report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) estimated that in 2002, undocumented immigrant women had a total fertility rate (TFR) of about 3.1 children per woman, compared to 2.6 for legal immigrant women and about 2.0 for native-born women. This suggests a higher birth rate among undocumented women, attributed to factors like lower education levels and cultural influences rather than legal status alone. The same report estimated approximately 380,000 births to undocumented women in 2002, accounting for nearly 10% of all U.S. births that year.
A 2018 Pew Research Center analysis reported that about 250,000 babies were born to unauthorized immigrant parents in 2016, down from a peak of 390,000 in 2007, representing about 6% of total U.S. births in 2016. This decline aligns with broader trends in falling birth rates among immigrants, particularly Hispanic women, and a reduction in the unauthorized immigrant population from Mexico. However, Pew doesn’t provide a specific TFR for undocumented women in this report.
More recent data from 2019 shows the TFR for all immigrant women (legal and illegal) was 1.76, compared to 1.69 for native-born women, indicating a modest difference. There’s no direct 2025 data isolating undocumented women, but the overall immigrant birth rate has continued to decline, driven by factors like economic conditions and changing demographics. A 2023 Migration Policy Institute report notes the unauthorized immigrant population was about 11.2 million in 2021, with no specific birth rate data provided.
Without current, specific figures, it’s reasonable to infer that the TFR for undocumented women may still be higher than the native-born rate but likely lower than the 3.1 estimated in 2002, given broader declines in immigrant fertility. Estimates are complicated by underreporting in surveys like the American Community Survey (ACS) and varying methodologies. For the most precise data, you’d need to dig into recent ACS or National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) reports, but they don’t always disaggregate by legal status.
Q: What percent of illegal aliens are females?
Grok: According to estimates from the Center for Migration Studies (CMS) based on 2019 American Community Survey data, approximately 46% of undocumented immigrants in the United States are female.
Considering so many during the open border of the Senile Manchurian Puppet regime appeared to be males, that may have changed.
Know that asylum is a cottage industry set up by congress to pack the nation with “legal” illegals. Play that game if you must, but when the ruse is up, don’t whine when you find yourself broke.
Winston: The Miami media all play stupid.
We got 40 million invaders.
Only one post yesterday.
Must have been a slow news day. LOL!
What if you spent tens of millions of dollars to stage a “nationwide protest,” and no one cared? 🤷♂️
What if you tried to light fires all across the country on the same day, and the matches fizzled out?
Well, I guess you’d have to assume Trump’s in the White House
How’d I do?
To all fathers, no matter if sons and daughters are yours by birth or are children for whom you’ve filled a hole by mentoring and loving…
You are the indispensable strength and backbone of this nation.
On this day which I know will be filled with different emotions for many, I pray that the Father of us all will bless and keep you and make His face to shine upon you forevermore 🙏🏻 💕
AMEN! Happy Father’s Day !
My opinion on Father’s Day….
To the gatekeepers of reproduction, women, do your part and stop laying down with males like Travis Decker, who by the way is still at large on this Father’s Day after killing his three pre-adolescent daughters.
I know they’re attractive, charming and exciting, but just stop. To nurture healthy children, a healthy and stable father is vital. That could appear a bit boring, so buckle in.
I was lucky to have one of those, meaning a boring, healthy, father. War vet, peaceful, stable, consistent, spiritual up until the day he died of cancer and went to God. Perfect? Nope, none of us are perfect. However, some flaws are more important to analyze than others when fatherhood is considered and with it the nurturing of a new life and molding a new mind. I think that would be a worthwhile discussion in itself.
Happy Father’s Day.
You are right, CP…none of us is perfect.
As flawed human beings each of us is made up of our own foibles and experiences.
Given this, as parents, mothers or fathers, we do the best as we are able when we have children. As I’ve aged and grown (I hope) wiser, I have been able to see my emotionally absent father as the human being he was, shaped by war time experiences of which he never spoke..something I couldn’t as a child understand.
He was a strict man with unwavering principles and generous to all who knew him, with his time and his money, especially to our church where he served as a vestryman until he was physically unable to do so, serving our God Whom he honoured and loved.
Today, long after he has left this world for his eternal home, I see him first as the man he was who became a father and did the best as he was able, loving us in his own way as a good provider, an example of right, and a gentleman.
And now I understand him.
Happy Father’s Day, Daddy…
I love you… 💕
My dad taught me how to throw a baseball. I was always the most uncoordinated girl on the team, but we always got an ice cream on the way home.
Oh those precious memories, Joan 💕
I bet you find yourself remembering more and more often.
I have a theory on why Trump appointed Blondie as AG and why she is not going to do anything about the fraud and theft of millions of our tax dollars by the uniparty and their family and friends. And why Trump is supportive of her doing nothing to rock the boat.
Trump now realizes he was led astray by the Federalist society in appointing SCOTUS Judges from their list. His appointments have turned out badly. 2 out of 3 are liberal justices. He has decided not to make that mistake this go round, so he will appoint a known quantity this time. He may only have one or two appointments at the most.
His next appointment will be AG Pam Blondie. She is a known Trump ally, has the qualifications as Fl AG, and AG of the DOJ. She has been confirmed by the US SENATE AS AG. She is young and will sit on the court for another 40 years. So, she is not going to do anything to turn the corrupt pols against her nomination for SCOTUS.
IF Trump gets a second appointment, I think he will appoint a current House or Senate member. Two other possibilities are VP VANCE or Texas AG Ken Paxton. Both qualified and young enough to serve 40 years.
The real power in this country are federal judges and especially SCOTUS judges.
“The real power in this country are federal judges and especially SCOTUS judges.”
And that is NOT the way it is SUPPOSED to be even CONSTITUTIONALLY! They are APPOINTED and not ELECTED and have given up any pretense of being impartial, so it is no longer even “justice.”
The POTUS is the ONLY person in government who is ELECTED by ALL of the people.
Our situation is IDENTICAL to Blob USAID (CIA) “Rule of Law” programs used in color revolutions elsewhere where the judges installed override, obstruct, nullify elections of and even imprison elected leaders.
How does one fix this once it occurs and all avenues to fix it are corrupted? ***You don’t.***
Mike Benz: Rule Of Law Programs run by The Blob via USAID, the US State Dept (1:21)
https://rumble.com/v6rzjdp-mike-benz-rule-of-law-programs-run-by-the-blob-via-usaid-the-us-state-dept-.html
Mike Benz: US JUDICIARY IS ROGUE (3:51)
https://rumble.com/v6s1vfb-judiciary-is-rogue.html
Chief Justice John Roberts Worked With Norm Eisen (5:03)
Mike Benz
3 Apr 2025
Chief Justice John Roberts spent a week living at Norm Eisen‘s 150-room palace in the Czech Republic where they “worked on American and European Rule of Law issues together.” This was while Roberts ran SCOTUS.
“Qualifications as Florida AG”?? C’mon, 4sure! Search the Treehouse Archives on Pam Blondo. Friends don’t let’s friends walk around uninformed..
Oh, I know all about her past. But, constitutionally, and by uniparty standards, she is more than qualified when compared to what the dems have appointed and confirmed. It’s time we played their game and got judges we can count on to not be liberals. Dems don’t confirm their appointees worrying about how they will vote once wearing the robe.
Ted Cruz.
Mexican migrant says they don’t like American, only here for money, support Los Angeles riots
FABULOUS
There is no capacity for conversation or debate because there are no organic, true believers…that’s why they have to recruit then pay these freaks and recycle them thru every single venue
Nothing is organic, hence none of it’s REAL
Betcha @DataRepublican can fill in any holes
She would HAVE to be named Karen.
This is excellent to see. Good for this young man! Send this everywhere. Nice work by this reporter.
A few months ago he did a segment where illegal aliens admitted they have gotten social security numbers…
Incoming excuses in 3…2…1…
I’m sorry, but I just have to stop and marvel as I listen to Maria B talking with Prince Reza Pahvlavi…
In the same way every American could tell you where they were when Kennedy was shot, I remember exactly where I was when Tehran fell and how devastating it was for expatriated Iranians. I was a teenager working evenings, nights, and weekends in the radiology department in a large hospital in Shreveport because I was planning to go to med school. Reza J had gotten out with his wife and baby the year before, but his family was still there because his father wanted to stay. Needless to say, he still had no contact with them by the time I graduated high school and was off to the indoctrinatoon factory (only for a short time…INFLATION CURED ME)
Forty years later, after multiple presidents and foreign policy failures based on LIES, LIES, AND MORE LIES, after being told liberating Iran, China, Syria, Russia, etc., were lost-cause pipe dreams, a guy with a REALLY BIG WAND is leading us to see what could actually be if only we can summon the courage to go forward and MAKE IT HAPPEN
Keep your boy in the Hampton’s, Huma, so he doesn’t get run over when the MAGA Train rolls on thru your pathetic existence, OCONUS would be even better…and take Jerome with you
Dude wasn’t planning on getting caught!!!
https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1934126549524963820
Walz is FUBAR’D
It seems to have gone down the memory hole, but the nationally unknown Tim Walz was foist on the Kamela ticket (just like Kamela was foist on the Biden ticket) by 0bama Team senior member Eric “The Red” Holder.
EVERYTHING the 0bamites have done since Trump threw his hair in the political ring – the stolen 2020 election in particilar – has been a ham fisted, desperate attempt to insure that the damage wrought during those eight long years of “Fundamental Transformation” is not undone. . . . . . . but it is being undone and their ‘silent coup’ has been exposed and has been thwarted.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/10/Tv/video/sitroom-blitzer-holder-walz-10-10-2024
Watching Fox – they are saying zero about Walz’s wife.
OR The DAUGHTER that Used TWITTER to ALERT the ANITIFA Comrades –
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2020/05/30/report-minnesota-governors-daughter-reassures-protesters-that-the-national-guard-wont-arrive-for-a-while-yet-n1510878
The media and police are trying to make out what they had in the car as a big deal – but the only things unusual were the passports.
Having money isn’t unusual. Having a weapon isn’t unusual – and if one has a weapon, then ammunition is a given.
If they weren’t trying to gaslight people, they wouldn’t have mentioned anything other than the passports.
Note – this has nothing to do with her potential culpability and is only addressing the way that the police and government try to twist things to make them seem nefarious in pursuing their agendas. They do the same thing regardless of ones innocence or potential guilt.
Yes everyone drives around with passports, guns and ammo in their cars.
Especially when their spouse is on the run for murder and attempted murder.
Watch for it, timestamp 19:10
Thank you for posting
Another one whose whole life will be ‘agitating’.
Reincarnation of Hanoi Jane…. oh, right, that one is still alive.
At least ‘that one’ had some limited talent! Barbarella comes to mind. Available on 4K Blu-ray:
As the vets came home and spread the word in first person, neither her talent nor the Fonda name could save her. Then came the nuclear movie in ’79 and that was pretty much it. That era was pretty harsh on vets with all the anti-war and baby killer stuff. I don’t regret not signing up when the draft passed me by.
Treepers made the difference between Greta being something I recognize and not. I don’t really keep up with influencers or agitators. That was my first guess when seeing the meme.
Who really cares? She is so not newsworthy anymore if she ever really was to begin with. Her parents got rich which was their goal and where are they now? Gone from the news.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/state-department-issues-security-alert-urging-american-citizens/
Stay safe Americans if you stay. I can see that the Iranians might use you as hostages as they did during the Presidency of President Carter. They may just seek you out and round you up. Their justice is cruel and unusual violence against personages.
MADE in China… ?
Remember when Democrats went apoplectic when Sarah Palin put cross hairs on a map showing which Democrat-controlled districts were vulnerable?
Good time to put that one back in their faces.
Mentally insane White liberal-Marxists. Ty for posting these videos.
That is a recurring theme of all of the “No Kings” protests in one form or another (like the Seattle signs).
Yet the FB1 think that parents protesting the teaching of perversion in schools are the terrorists…
Liberal boomers who need a paycheck because we spend all our money in Ukraine and doing things for illegal immigrants.
Probably wouldn’t take long, but I wish I had the time to tally the Ukraine, global warming, USAID, illegal immigrant money and divide it by the number of retirees on SSA – bet idt a significant amount per year that could be given to each retiree.
Yet they protest against the person who is trying to eliminate all of that and help them by decreasing the tax on their SS…
Yup, makes perfect sense.
Would also note that a large portion of those same liberals spent every penny they made and did nothing to save for retirement…and are so poor they have I-Phones, fancy cars, etc..
Well, the question appears to be: Do we give the Israelis the planes and the bunker buster bombs they need to destroy the Iranian uranium enrichment facilities, which are under ground? Or not?
The war between Israel and Iran needs to end, before the U.S. and China are sucked into it, not after. I don’t want to be cowering in my basement, drinking safe water out of a toilet, because the local Air Force base was just vaporized by a Chinese missile. So, the war in the Middle East needs to stop.
So the tail wags the dog. Some tail; some dog. Sometimes there isn’t a choice. Thanatos, the death wish postulated by Freud; it sure looks like we as a human race can’t solve any conflict peacefully. So we are fated to live in a balance of terror? We are better than this. We elect imperfect leaders to muddle through and hope for the best. But peace begins with each of us practicing it personally.
Trump just stated ‘it’s possible’ US gets involved in Israel-Iran conflict
Of course it is ‘possible’:
“The U.S. had nothing to do with the attack on Iran, tonight. If we are attacked in any way, shape or form by Iran, the full strength and might of the U.S. Armed Forces will come down on you at levels never seen before. However, we can easily get a deal done between Iran and Israel, and end this bloody conflict!!!”
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114685507052179501
There is no dealing between Israel and Iran . The die has been cast there is no going back.
It was never about nuclear weapons. It’s about regime change.
The same BS over and over again since 1984
Netanyahu says that a regime change in Iran is possible as a result of the Israeli strikes targeting the country’s leadership.
“The time has come for the Iranian people to unite around its flag and its historic legacy, by standing up for your freedom from the evil and oppressive regime.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c79e233j2gro
Yada yada yada. I don’t care. Iran is a terrorist State. The world has allowed and tolerated Iran to speak and practice their terrorism for decades. The Iranian government has proven themselves to be a rabid dog in need of extermination. I don’t need the excuse of nuclear weapons to make this call. I pray for the innocent Iranian people. Perhaps they can be free again.
However, If Iran chooses to remain as they are governed now, without spreading their terror and murder outside their borders, it works for me.
I’m sure we will still be able to see videos of beautiful Iranian boys and girls shopping in the evenings.
So is North Korea, so is China, so is a significant portion of the world – hell, even the EU is that way.
Should we just nuke them all? Decapitate their leadership?
Israel took action and delayed Iran getting the nuclear bomb. That’s what some of you who pretend it was not true overlook.
Well said. I replied above. Many types of action between then and now.
Iran “has been on the verge” of a nuclear bomb for DECADES according to Israel and others…yet it hasn’t happened.
“delayed Iran” – which on its face accepts the reality that even if were true (which nobody has any way of knowing) they have been delayed, that it will eventually happen. So what’s the point in the delay?
It was never about nuclear weapons. It’s about regime change.
I would think that the latter leads to the former? The mullahs are stubborn, and undeterred by popular opinion. A new gov’t probably would be much more flexible.
Anyway, who cares if it is regime change (as opposed to nukes)? What is your point? That such nice mullahs are being persecuted?
While yes, we have heard some of this before, don’t ignore the many measures that were taken to slow the progression of Iran’s nuke program. Scientists eliminated… “Accidents” at their Nuke sites.
Remember stuxnet?
Note that bombing Iran was not the first cause of action.
Your post caused me to add another topic to my Sunday digging, that being finding out if and how the money/materiel flow has stopped to Ukraine, which has been actually destroying targets in Russia, all while Moscow arranged and put on a stellar Victory Day parade last month, something a lot like PDJT did yesterday.
Imagine us doing that while Chinese missiles (your posit) were vaporizing targets like the Air Force base you suggested.
Is our money funding those attacks in Russia? Has it been? If so, sounds like another menu item to add to the Israel/Iran mixer and get the warmongering stopped. Tall order. MIC likes war. A lot of American citizens collect a paycheck for building things that kill other people. They like their work and the comfortable life it provides.
Quite the pickle. I pray daily that we all get along. Humans don’t do that very well, historically. Still, prayers sent.
YES, We should give Israel the bunker buster bombs – actually I thought we had given them some in early days after PDJT was inaugurated.
There is no way to know we did not already give them these weapons and the means to deliver them. President Trump is saying that Israel and Iran can have peace, by making a deal, and talks are happening right now. He is right. We should support his approach.
Interesting from the 10pm news last night and scanning the web this morning.
Last night a talking head from ALL the local news affiliates of the MSM were reading from essentially the same “prepared script” with built in pauses for insertion video clips of some anti-ICE person spouting a few seconds of patriotic gibberish. Every other sentence in the “prepared script” had the phrase “peaceful protest”.
Last night there were no clips from LA nor Seattle. In fact not many clips at all because local authorities did not intervene as long as things stayed “peaceful”, which had to upset the MSM due to a lack of video clips showing authorities initiating any counter demonstration actions vs “peaceful” protestors.
Today making the rounds of the news websites … not much at all .. except for the clips from LA and Seattle on Breitbart, Fox and Newsmax (Fox Light) … and a cameo from a “peaceful scene”.
Probably the most interesting was that President Trump actually received good treatment last night on the local MSM affiliates related to the US Army’s 250 Birthday.
.
What happens if you hold a protest and nobody notices? 🙂
.
They scream, rant, riot, loot every day. It’s not a protest, it’s a way of life.
It’s delicious 🇺🇸
There is no sound, and they are still creating emotion without action or fruit
I am watching a field report from last night by NBC4 in D.C. and it echoes what you mentioned about the treatment by local MSM regarding the parade and PDJT yesterday.
I also found out something I didn’t know but I don’t doubt other Treepers did. The reporter mentioned that VP Vance and his wife celebrated their wedding anniversary yesterday, all in a positive tone. He even mentioned interactions between protestors and other crowd members as peaceful and positive.
24 hour cease-fire? IDK.
JD gave a short speech to introduce PDJT. JD mentioned that besides being PDJT’s birthday, it was also JD’s wedding anniversary.
Oh noes!! He wantses to be King too! We must not let him have the prescious-s-s-s
Best thing I read yesterday:
If we did indeed, have a King, there could be no public protests against having a King.
The “Christ Is KING” counter-protest yesterday wins the prize.
“CHRIST IS KING!””….
{
}
Many of those protesting on the “No Kings” side are all for elimination of the one true King and our Lord and Savior, from the public space and eventually from anyone’s life.
“No King” – translates to my body, my choice, let me have what I want, when I want it, and how I want it — without morals or accountability to anyone. And please give me the money to do it, so it doesn’t cost me anything.
Math is not particularly your strong suit, eh?
??? Are you trying to make 1 + 0 = 2?
Deleted- duplicate post
ya know, Rand is officially annoying. Him complaining about the cost of yesterday’s events reminds of the guy who walks passed dollars to pick up dimes. He’s a ‘No’ on the BBB. So can’t see the forest though the trees. Not sure if contrarianism is ego motivated, a Decepticon, or both. At the very least he’s a chronic cold sore on the MAGA body.
Click on “show more” to get the rest of the story.