Saudi Arabia is the first of three stops President Donald Trump will make on his four-day tour. He’ll also visit the lavish wealthy nations of Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.
In all three countries Trump will aim to announce economic deals – with hopes that progress can be made on some complicated geopolitical issues as well. First, Trump will spend the day today in various engagements with Mohammed Bin Salman.
A Saudi official close to the defense ministry said Riyadh will push for securing the latest US F-35 fighter jets along with state-of-the-art air defense systems worth billions of dollars. ‘We will condition that the deliveries take place during Trump’s term,’ the official told AFP.
The long-term goal for the United States is to have Saudi Arabia join the Abraham Accords – one of the biggest foreign policy achievements of Trump’s first administration.
Traveling with President Trump are White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, and Elon Musk.

Remember the Sword Dance last time?
A classic!
Indeed it was.
Yes, that was reported to be during the world capitulation tour.
Mohammed Bin Salmon is an ally in the war against the forces of darkness and evil.
We’ll see much more of his presence on the world stage in the coming years.
If my memory serves me correctly, that was the same world tour where President Putin handed President Trump the all famous soccer ball. The reported symbolism was, “The ball is in your court President Trump.”
President Putin is also an ally in the war against evil.
Yes – remember the tour of the state of the art Saudi intel center??
And wasn’t there a pic of several of them sitting around a globe?
Glowing orb.
I was reported at the time that only the King has the honor of the Sword Dance.
Bin Salman calls our POTUS “Your Excellency”.
I love that.
No big deal…It’s what my family used to call me before they found out I was MAGA…Now they call me something else
@Remington:
Choked on my coffee on this. Excellent, Your Excellency!
Remington I will call you friend. TDS daughter in my family who just doesn’t understand.
Gosh! Sorry, Rem. 🤣
Here’s a clip of the Sword Dance in Saudi Arabia back in 2017:
Its a joy to see such a strong, mutually respectful friendship.
Ultimate sign of respect for a non-Muslim to get a sword dance. Maybe never. Except of course our.very special genius.
Of course, if we are going to talk about a Sword Dance, then we can’t forget this one by our favorite President on Inauguration Night. The weight of the world on his shoulders and he still has a way of finding the joy!
Enjoy!
There will not, could never be, another POTUS like Donald Trump!
There wasn’t a Ukraine/Russia war going on in 2017 and we were not supplying weapons to Ukraine. He can talk peace there, but to ignore the white elephant on the world stage and make nice with a bunch of rich muslims now, is just not the same. He still has not even met with Putin face to face. The first time he didn’t have Rubio and Susan Wiles controlling him either. We all love Trump, but you can’t ignore a crucial war going on right now. That is not the Trump’ fight fight fight’ way. And all of us know that if Biden had accepted a gift of a huge jet to use from Qatar, we would have had a big problem with it. Trump won and it’s not the time to be hypocrites about reality. It does not protects his legacy.
Proverbs 3:35
The wise inherit honor, but fools get only shame.
Good is Your Word, Father God!
What does this have to do with America First.
If you have to ask, you will never understand.🖖🏻
So right!
The answer is nothing. It has nothing to do with America First which is why you couldn’t answer the question.
Clueless Dolly Madison. Sad.
So slue us Americans in. i”m very well versed in U.S. history so educate us patriots since we know the Middle East has zero to do with U.S history and interests. We literally need nothing from that region but do tell.
Start in post wwii, it has everything to do with the last half of the 20th century to today.
We get the jobs!
What jobs? Since when did the American people need jobs from a Middle Eastern country in our own country?
Is that a serious question ?
We will be building the jets they order
Please expand your thinking and understanding on a matter
Military equipment? You’re kidding. That’s what you are so excited about. Using the U.S> as the arms dealer of the world and to one of the countries involved in the biggest terrorist attack on U.S. soil? Wow!
The United States only belongs to the American people for our interests which isn’t war, war, war. To reduce our American Republic to an arms dealer that enriched the merchants of death using our tax dollars…..is not American at all. Are you even American?
Hate that you have no clue. So I’ll bite. First of all, how about respect again on the world stage. And the Saudis are not afraid to show and demonstrate to the world how respected this man is. How about trade, how about a formidable ally against Iran, How about purchases and trade, how about oil prices and oil production, how about how our expats and how they are treated in Saudi Arabia and surrounding, how about Abraham accords and peace in the world? And these are only a few things.
I’m sure there are many here that can add dozens to this list. Glad to help.😉
Respect again on the world stage? Our country doesn’t exist to serve the opinions of foreigners. It exists for our protection and prosperity and peace within our own borders. You actually think the American people were losing sleep over whether or some Middle Eastern kingdom, who helped commit the biggest terrorist attack on U.S. soil, shows our POTUS respect? The only thing we care about is getting back to non-intervention in foreign wars and self-sufficiency. We have no vital economic or security interests halfway around the world in the Middle East.
“How about purchases and trade, how about oil prices and oil production, how about how our expats and how they are treated in Saudi Arabia and surrounding”
We don’t need trade with Saudi Arabia or any Middle Eastern country for that matter. We also have our own oil. The majority of the world relies on OPEC oil. The United States does not. We have our own WTI with our own exchange. If American expats don’t like how they are treated in foreign countries then don’t live in those foreign countries.
“how about Abraham accords and peace in the world? And these are only a few things.”
The Abraham Accords have zero to do with the United States. Our country is not located in the Middle East. It is also not our job to bring peace to the world. That is just another term for foreign intervention and getting our kids in uniform killed in foreign wars. Foreign conflicts in the Middle East are not American conflicts. Not our history, not our region, not our problem.
The only difference between S11 and J6 is by degree and detail.
The open border society promotes terrorism inside the US.
Orange Man Threat is a Uniparty and Ukraine problem.
Crossfire Hurricane 2: Build Back Terror
https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/our-man-in-kiev
Not that you need a helper, but along with your points, every friend in the Middle East is a step closer to peace in the region and beyond, including having them all come together to defeat terrorism, whether it be Hamas, the Houthis or just housing refugees while rebuilding the tunneled bombed out Gaza Strip to be a fresh new glowing jewel, where peace, diversity and prosperity will reign, easily coming full circle and radiating godliness and hope throughout the region.
Religious liberty is America First.
Freedom of speech is America First.
The wise American inherits honor first.
The foolish American gets shamed back better.
America Last announces itself knowingly or unknowingly.
If you don’t know you’re ahead of competing MAGAGANDA you may be behind.
https://revolver.news/2025/05/trump-defied-pentagon-foreign-agendas-and-the-war-machine-in-one-brazen-move/
There is a photo on Faux with Pete Hegseth sitting with PDJT and Lil Havana.
This is unlike anything ever seen before in my lifetime. Maybe Bretton Woods or Yalta were like this.
There is a tone of excitement in the White House and Scavino posts that is “super” with a French pronunciation.
Compare this to the three euroweenies sitting on a train… and for refreshments their cocaine baggie. Perfect pictures!
But was it really cocaine?
A: Of course not.
Crystal Meth.
It certainly wasn’t a tissue. And why would Macron hide a tissue in that manner?
Then why leave it out, knowing the cameras were on their way in? He had plenty of time to remove it.
Surprise intrusion by the Euro- Presstitutes ?😁🥴
They are so used to it sitting around that it took them a minute to hide it and the spoon.
I ALWAYS fold my used Kleenex® into little squares when I am done blowing out my stuffed up nose so the cocaine has a direct shot into my brain, then I put it away in my pocket so as not to spread germs all over the table. Ditto: Little Spoon. So gauche.
A super close up, shows it to have a glossy,waxy, sheen. Never seen a kleenex look like that..
Plastic baggie; not a tissue. Coke spoon, not a pencil.
There was a big booger on the Keenex® and I know I am always embarrassed to the gills when a little spoon is found next to my drink.
Hahaha. Maquis posted this earlier. It says it all:
Old way of thinking! Old style government at its crappy best!
To me it appears they are all listening to someone speaking remotely.
I see what you mean. Maybe listening to their boss speaking from the home pod?
Yes; could be.
Meanwhile, the real power is in Riyadh, and these EU types are NFI’d.
Trump was participating by phone.
They were listening to President Trump on that cell phone on the table.
We don’t need anything from the Middle East. These aren’t even our conflicts or wars so not really anything to do with Yalta or Bretton Woods.
Our kids in uniform don’t belong there being used as bait for foreign wars. None of this is America’s interest or history.
President Trump is working to stop wars. He is showing the world there is a better way for countries to co-exist.
It isn’t his job to stop foreign wars between foreign countries. It is Trump’s job to remove U.S. involvement in these foreign conflicts and you do that by just pulling them all out. It is his duty to remove ALL U.S. military from the Middle East and close ALL U.S. military bases.
It’s called having friends. You’d have to have them to understand.
You’re so wrong! I lived in Saudi Arabia for six years. It’s not just desert anymore. MBS leading Saudi Arabia is major. President Donald Trump and MBS will most likely always be friends based on what happened in the first term. Saudi Arabia was the first country. Donald Trump visited in 2016 for a reason.
What am I wrong about on Saudi Arabia? I don’t care if it’s desert or not. My point was, my country in North America, the United States, does not need anything from Saudi Arabia or the Middle East in general.
I also don’t care if Trump and MBS were friends, are friends, will always be friends. Trump is a public servant to the United States, not for himself.
“Donald Trump visited in 2016 for a reason.”
What American citizen and national interest reason?
As I said earlier, you just won’t understand the concept, either your having a serious TDS episode (I believe there is a cream for that on the market now 😉) or your here to “Troll” the site for $$$.
Plus the who’s who of big business and big tech.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-trumps-lavish-welcome-saudi-arabia-mbs-breaks-protocol-greets-him-plane
Europe sidelined?
The report was Al Waleed was the backing for US big tech in the past. Al Waleed is out and MBS is now likely running things. Don’t know all the details, but since President Trump’s world tour in ~2017 things changed significantly.
Guessing this visit will put on display/make visible what has already been put in play. Big picture, this visit has been much anticipated.
We’ll see what happens.
Agree. The line up screams this. Trump’s fav people for moving forward in the most serious and smart manner, Musk and Rubio. I’ve been trying to figure out from their expressions what is happening and they both are playing it very cool, experts in not showing emotions, including being overwhelmingly impressed or not.
Europe sidelined?
Let Europe have the Middle East. It’s not American history or interests anyway. We have no economic or national security interests half way around the world in the Middle East. Europe does.
My Goodness, I’m late here today but had to say this: Your isolationism has no validity or place in our national dialogue *until* we get our Iron Dome. If you aren’t a troll, please do think more deeply.
Very glam! The horses were beautiful!
Yes! Such elaborate and respectful pageantry! ❤️
Arabians.
They are beautiful!
😍
I grew up with horses, mostly Quarter Horses, a breed largely anchored in Arabian DNA, but full-blood Arabians I’ve worked with have a very distinct characteristic, I’d descibe it as a sense of SELF AWARENESS, they know what they are. It’s uncanny, especially when you’re trying to convince them to do something they don’t want to do, very similar to livestock guard dogs, “their way or the highway”
I don’t know much about horses, but I know those horses are splendid. What a visual
Magnificent isn’t superlative
That’s very much a centuries old tribal thing. When a visiting ruler arrived, the host tribal king set out with his greeting party to escort the visitor’s arrival.
Reminds me of Brandon’s visit to the Mid-East. NOT
You never saw Biden get this type of reception.
The Chinese had so little respect for him they made him get out the back of the plane didn’t they?
He got out the back because there was less steps for him to navigate, unlike the stairs for the side entrance.
Thank God….
Why the hell Qatar? The financial support for terrorists.
President Trump thinks that a plane for the pentagon from Qatar is a good gesture.
The same Qatar that slaughtered our great American military soldiers.
I’ll see how this plays out, but my gut instinct is giving me bad vibes.
Troll. Your fake gut instinct is wrong.
Perhaps President Trump or Hegseth
will visit our 🇺🇸 American troops in…Qatar ?
🤷♀️ 💁♀️
Al Udeid Air Base: The Largest US Military Installation in Middle East
Guaranteed one or both of them will visit the troops.
Visit? How about they announce they are all coming home. Our military has no American business in the Middle East.
Wow. Nope I’m not a troll. Just a American woman that loves my country.
All of us Teepers have different opinions.
President Trump is the best President in my lifetime.
My gut instinct is to not trust Qatar’s manipulation tactics towards Trump.
We’ll see how this turns out with Qatar.
I don’t trust the Western Europeans or Israel under Netanyahu. Qatar knows that they can easily be destroyed if they step out of line. Qatar will not do anything stupid while 47 is the president.
Feel free to to use logic and reason to argue your point of view Poison. However, resorting to name-calling will only get you moderated…
“We’ll see how this turns out with Qatar.”
Well, we’ve been seeing how it turns out with Qatar for the last 30+ years. Qatar is an actual ally of the USA. They pay their own way, provide us with assistance and support, and have since Desert Storm in 1991.
Might want to ignore the neocon babbling about “our greatest ally” and look at the actual facts on the ground.
“Following joint military operations during Operation Desert Storm in 1991, Qatar and the United States concluded a Defense Cooperation Agreement that has been subsequently expanded. In 1996, Qatar built Al Udeid Air Base at the cost of more than $1 billion. The U.S. first used the then-secret base in late September 2001, when the Air Force needed to get aircraft in position for its operations in Afghanistan. The U.S. has nearly 40,000 military personnel in the Middle East. The U.S. Fifth Fleet is in Bahrain and has 28,000 military personnel in Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar. Kingdoms, including Qatar, cover 60 percent of the costs, around $650 million.”
https://militarybases.com/overseas/qatar/
Thank you!
I do think a visit with our 🇺🇸 troops
in Qatar by President Trump/Hegseth
would be fantastic!
Morale booster for our 🇺🇸 troops, and
remind everyone about the base!
Wouldn’t be surprised if the troops are
spit shiningeverything right now…
. 👍 👍 just in case, or in preparation
of a visit.
👏 👏 👍 👍 👍 👏 👏 👏
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
“Well, we’ve been seeing how it turns out with Qatar for the last 30+ years. Qatar is an actual ally of the USA. They pay their own way, provide us with assistance and support, and have since Desert Storm in 1991.”
An ally? In what. Our military never should have been in the Middle East. That’s the point. We weren’t attacked. Our country isn’t located in the Middle East and it is not our job or duty to die for the Middle East. We don’t have allies. We are an independent nation. We have interests and the Middle East is not a vital economic or security interest of the United States. It may be for foreign countries and corporations who want to use the U.S. and our military for their foreign interests but that is what we call treason.
Disagreeing with you doesn’t make them a troll.
How does Trump making deals with these Middle Eastern countries we need nothing from benefit the American people in North America?
I wish he would have accepted the plane near the end of his term as a donation for the Trump Presidential Library.
The plane is for America, its not a personal gift!
A lá the Statue of Liberty, another gift from a foreign state.
France helped us found our country. Qatar has no connection to us and why would we need a plane from Qatar as a state gift? It’s not like we’re going to use it and it doesn’t have any meaning like the Statue of Liberty did.
“Qatar has no connection to us…”
Really??!!
Just because your news sources don’t provide the full details of reality doesn’t make reality go away:
“US quietly reaches agreement with Qatar to keep operating largest military base in Middle East”
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/02/politics/us-qatar-agreement-largest-base-middle-east/index.html
“According to media reports in June 2017, the base hosted over 11,000 U.S. and U.S.-led anti-ISIL coalition forces and over 100 operational aircraft.”
My reality is U.S. history. The media, the IC, international corporations, foreign countries and their foreign interests tell the American people what our interests are. We are the sovereign.
“US quietly reaches agreement with Qatar to keep operating largest military base in Middle East”
Our American military doesn’t belong halfway around the world int he Middle East!! Their duty is to defend the U.S. Constitution and U.S. borders. It is not our job to defend foreign countries anywhere. Obviously.
‘Just because your news sources don’t provide the full details of reality doesn’t make reality go away’
Thank you! I’m starting to be able to tell the AI trolls from the TDS trolls by the level of ignorance.
The AI trolls get smarter with a broader perspective as they seek new information, sucking it up like a sponge, and the TDS trolls get dumber as their minds narrow sitting there refusing to turn the dial.
Since when is France our friend? Parasites,feeding off of the 🇺🇸 USA…
I didn’t say they were. I merely pointed out the other poster who was comparing connections between France and the U.S. and Qatar and the U.S.. Historically, we have a history with France. We paid them back twice in WW1 & WW2. Qatar has nothing to do with the United States founded in 1776 in North American or our interests then, and now.
You’ve just proved everyone’s point. It’s not 1776, it’s 2025. Its time to wake up.
The first reports were that it was going to end up at President Trump’s presidential library after this term.
If I heard correctly, the plane will already be ending up there.
I agree. Why give the Left such a gift? It’s fraught with issues. And a critic correctly pointed out that the aircraft would need to be virtually stripped for potentially malicious devices.
Never look a gift horse ( Arabian) in the mouth. 😉
Cheers!
I believe your question and concern is understandable based on what we had seen/based on what had been reported about Qatar in the past.
We are in a different time right now. There has been a major shift of forces not only here in the US, but across the globe.
I trust President Trump. I don’t trust him blindly. I trust him based on a significant body of work where he has earned that trust.
The Qatar we knew, the one you are concerned about, may not be the same Qatar now.
Honestly, I have no idea of the scope and magnitude of the changes, but it appears the entire world has changed and changed for the better. As we come out of the darkness, it is difficult to adjust our eyes to all of the light.
What a great time just after Easter to see the “New Life”.
What a great time to be alive.
Beautifully stated, MM … especially your reference to the Light of Resurrection Day!
MM:
I applaud your positive take on things overall, and your trust of Trump in particular.
But you are too trusting of the Arabs. No matter which sect they believe in, they are all part of the scourge of Islam that has infected the glob and is violently anti-Western in general and anti-American specifically.
We cannot trust ANY count that espouses Islam as it’s guiding principle.
The West cannot survive as long as Islam is alive and well anywhere in the world.
Islam must be eradicated for decent civilization to survive and flourish and world peace to become a reality.
“Islam is violently anti-American….”
Expanding sources of information might help to dispel belief in myths.
It would be really wild to see what pro-American looked like, if this is what anti-American is:
American military bases in Muslim countries in West Asia:
“As of October 2024, U.S. defense officials said there were some forty thousand service members in the Middle East, many on ships at sea in the region. In total, the United States has military facilities across at least nineteen sites—eight of them considered to be permanent by many regional analysts—in countries including Bahrain, Egypt, Iraq…Jordan, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and the United Arab Emirates. The U.S. military also uses large bases in Djibouti and Turkey.”
https://www.cfr.org/article/us-forces-middle-east-mapping-military-presence
Trump has made good in many areas so far this second term but I trust no one blindly. We have no American interest in the Middle East.
Trump also needs to convert all of his America First executive orders into laws passed by Congress or it all gets undone by a future president.
The only thing an American president can do in the Middle East is announce the closing of all U. S. bases and the removal of all U.S. military from the region.
Bad vibes, like the German chemicals in you shampoo and conditioner. Remember the Nazis? TROLL!
Wow. 🙄
Dee is not a troll. I have been coming here for at least 7 years and have read many of her posts.
What do the Nazis have to do with anything?
We’re talking about AMERICAN history and interests which is not European or Middle Eastern.
Why Qatar……
💁♀️ 🤷♀️
Al Udeid Air Base: The Largest US Military Installation in Middle East
Plus, US tax dollars line the pockets for Qatari oligarchs. We shouldn’t have an military base in Qatar or anywhere else.
I trust Trump, but he is still surrounded by bad DC actors…the IC.
“Plus, US tax dollars line the pockets for Qatari oligarchs. We shouldn’t have an military base in Qatar or anywhere else.”
Just amazing how unaware many people are of the actual facts on the ground in West Asia, and American relations there.
There’s only one country that in West Asia that lines its pockets with US tax dollars. And it ain’t Qatar!
As for Qatar and American tax dollars–it’s the exact opposite. Qatar uses its own money to FUND AMERICAN MILITARY BASES.
“With its small territory and narrow population base, Qatar relies to a large degree on external cooperation and support for its security. Qatar invested over US$1 billion to construct the Al Udeid airfield during the 1990s; it did not have a large air force of its own at the time.”
“The base stationed F-22 Raptors for the first time in June 2019.[18] A month later, an expansion of the base was announced to be funded by Qatar,[19] which would cost $1.8 billion.”
“Qatar has committed billions of its own funds upgrade the facilities for US Airmen at the base. Al Udeid became CENTCOM’s main air base in 2003, shifting forces and assets from the Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia, where the presence of a large number of American military personnel was more sensitive and controversial.”
All the info is out there for anyone who is interested in dealing with the reality of our operations and allies in West Asia. Just have to shut off Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro and their brethren.
“Just amazing how unaware many people are of the actual facts on the ground in West Asia, and American relations there.”
The only facts on the ground that matter as far as Americans go are on the ground in the U.S., our country. Our military has no place in West Asia, the Middle East, Europe…anywhere but U.S. soil for U.S. protection. Not one American tax dollar should be going to any foreign country.
“As for Qatar and American tax dollars–it’s the exact opposite. Qatar uses its own money to FUND AMERICAN MILITARY BASES.”
“With its small territory and narrow population base, Qatar relies to a large degree on external cooperation and support for its security. Qatar invested over US$1 billion to construct the Al Udeid airfield during the 1990s; it did not have a large air force of its own at the time.”
The United States is a sovereign nation that only belongs to its citizens for our protection and prosperity. It is not a rent-an-army to be used by foreign countries for their foreign protection which endangers our sovereignty and security. You are talking about killing our kids and threatening our republic for foreign countries as long as they pay us.
“ Mark Levin, Ben Shapiro and their Brethren.” …???? Are Steven Miller, Jason Miller, and a myriad of Pro Trump Jewish advisors to our President the “ Brethren “ you are alluding to Kent? Low blow.
If I remember correctly, against all odds,
Qatar invested in LNG facilities.
They were ridiculed for doing so.
Now, the ones who were doing the
ridicule are busy eating Crow.
That investment made them a fortune.
And as for the rich lining their pockets…
💁♀️ 🤷♀️ Pot meet Kettle…our government
officials vs theirs.🤷♀️
Or, people who live in Glass Houses…
shouldn’t throw rocks.
Apparently, the plane gift was begun under Biden but they dropped the ball on getting it done. Mullins was on Varney this morning and mentioned it.
All I can say is that I hope R’s win bigly in the midterms otherwise, the Dems have a plan to impeach our President again. Chris Murphy is apparently calling this mideast tour a “tour of corruption”.
Chris Murphy could not identify his arse from his elbow … not even if they were labeled.
Why Saudi Arabia? Why Israel? Not our countries, region, or American interests.
We need all of our military removed from the Middle East (and the rest of the world). They were lured there on the WMD lie and whoever did 9/11. The American people want out. We aren’t the British Empire.
Your points are well taken. Consider this: Our President wants PEACE above all. There is a chance that if all goes well with this diplomatic visit, the ABRAHAM ACCORDS will work.
Remember July 13, 2024, in Butler, Pennsylvania. Every real man, no matter what nationality, looked in awe and amazement at this brave human being and his response to being almost mortally wounded. That brave human being has arrived on their turf asking them to change their way of thinking from centuries past.
You know that The Almighty is with him in this endeavor. Join all of us in prayer for him.
This will bring peace to Israel and the Middle East. Let’s give him another chance at this.
“That brave human being has arrived on their turf asking them to change their way of thinking from centuries past.”
That has nothing to do with the United States.
“This will bring peace to Israel and the Middle East. Let’s give him another chance at this.”
Israel is not our country. Not his job and not our countries. Whether the Middle East has peace or not is between those countries. Same with Europe. He is not allowed to use his public office, our nation, military, and tax dollars, to do the bidding of foreign countries.
“Our President wants PEACE above all. There is a chance that if all goes well with this diplomatic visit, the ABRAHAM ACCORDS will work.”
The Abraham Accords have zero to do with the United States and our protection.
Trump is to bring peace to Americans and to protect our country, not foreign countries. That entails closing all U.S. bases in the Middle East (and around the world) and bringing all of military home. AND no more foreign aid or military equipment to any foreign country. Foreign countries will have wars until the end of time. They can fight and pay for them all by themselves.
Puh-LEEZE
You should ask yourself WHY Boeing has failed to deliver those planes. I’d also remind you that Trump’s probably in more danger INSIDE OUR BORDERS. There’s a reason Mike Flynn posted a very peculiar comment in the waning days of the 2024 campaign. It’s highly instructive that Congress is throwing a temper tantrum, not because Boeing is WAY BEHIND on that contract, but that he’s looking to alternatives to traveling in 40-year-old plane with a JFK-era paint schematic. Boeing’s “mechanical issues” over the past few years, along with an inexplicable escalation in FAA’s bizarre air traffic glitches BEFORE AND AFTER 11/5/24 should be y9ur concern, not Trump’s decision that THIS Qatari plane is the way to go…UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMETHING HE DOESN’T, of course
https://x.com/GenFlynn/status/1844814799902818493
By the way, the mathematical value of bin Salmon’s name is the only one among current world leaders that calculates out to 666.
Formula where?
Gematria probably – there is more than one system of numerology…
the “elites” & masons use that one for their “occult calculations”.; they swear & live by it.
So there’s that.
Irenaeus, student of Polycarp, student of John the Apostle used the Greek language, which along with Hebrew are the only two languages that use letters as numbers. Latin kinda does but I seriously couldn’t tell you which Super Bowl we’re on by reading those jumble of letters.
Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
Revelation is in Greek, so use Greek. But really per those three guys the counting is to be done as a confirmation once it is clear who the dude is and not meant as a search of any old target.
I did read that the w is also 6, so that www [world wide web] is 666, but I am far from a numerology expert.
I could easily come up with a mathematical formula that changes anyone’s name to any number I choose.
Really? Show us the math on that.
I have so many 666 in my driver’s license number 😩 I’m ashamed to show it…
You devil you!!
😝
Awesome! MBS literally owes his political survival and life to 45. Without 45 protecting MBS the Left Wing media, DemonRats, and RINOS were hell bent on destroying MBS almost 10 years ago. So now 47 is going to extract everything out of MBS. MBS owes 45 and 47 everything.
The American people don’t want or need anything from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Israel or any other country in the region.
Your (many) concerns are noted (as replies to virtually every post).
Not everyone agrees. Some see working for peace and trade opportunities (i.e. jobs created here to create things to sell in markets opened up to us) as vital to the national interests of the United States.
It’s not really a matter of agreement. It just happens to be a fact that the United States in North America needs nothing from the Middle East halfway around the world. Just like we don’t need anything from Canada or Mexico.
So when you say trade opportunities that connotes that we need something from these foreign countries which we do not. As far as jobs created in the U.S. to sell to them, making weapons of war that bring destruction and death to other countries is not something the American people want or need. That is not a vital interest to the United States. We don’t need foreign countries to crate jobs for us inside our own country.
And peace in a foreign region halfway around the world is also not our job nor a national security interest here at home.
Yes, we’ve all noted it. Fortunately we’ve seen it before and can ignore it as Trump has when they have been reduced to just trying to slow him down. That’s it, their strategy, it’s all they’ve got left in their tool chest, like the troll here, trying to interrupt thoughtful discourse with non stop oppositional nonsense.
Biden through a nondescript side door…complete with inappropriate and vulgar fist bump.
President Trump as honoured guest with MsB coming to greet him at the bottom of Air Force One, smiling broadly.
Respect.
Friendship.
As I posted elsewhere, these are the cornerstones of President Trump’s success which those who oppose him, some virulently, will never understand.
Apologies….MbS!!!
(…more ☕ ☕ ☕!!)
President Trump to speak shortly.
MbS breaks with protocol to greet President Trump.
From the article…
“If there is one thing that’s clear by now, it’s that Saudi Arabia and the royal family loves President Donald J Trump.”
So say all of us 🇺🇸💕
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-trumps-lavish-welcome-saudi-arabia-mbs-breaks-protocol-greets-him-plane
They are literally playing his rally song at the forum wiht
POTUS standing on stage alone while “God Bless the USA”
is playing..
And then they played Village People at the end! That gave me a chuckle.
I burst out laughing.
People all over the world respond beautifully to President Trump’s vibe! Remember his trip to India and how people lined the streets?
Do you think the American people give a rip if some foreign sheik halfway around the world from one of the countries involved in the biggest terrorist attack on U.S. soil honors Trump?! Really? Friendship? With friends like Saudi Arabia and Israel….
The American people, who are the sovereign of the U.S., don’t need or want anything from the Middle East. Close every U.S. base and bring our kids home.
You have made your point and it is valid, but it is becoming a “broken record”!
CTH is a great place to come and voice your opinion/and or concerns, which is great as we do not have very many places to do this and enjoy all the different comments and education we receive here, which has been an enormous blessing to me.
Consistent repetition of the same comments can be very frustrating to some, so I would suggest you might want to tone it down somewhat. I hope and pray you have a wonderful and blessed evening.
Also a 21 gun salute on his arrival. heard as cannon shots but not much commented on. Wikipedia describes a 21 gun salute as a big deal for a joyful celebration.
I noticed the 21 gun salute and it was outstanding.
Not on my Bingo card for sure.
I join other Boomers in thoroughly enjoying the pomp and circumstance of being in this Golden Age, our Camelot!
Magnificent. We are once again respected world wide.
What is Musk doing with Trump in Saudi Arabia? He saves the taxpayer some money with DOGE and now gets carte blanche access to Trump? The guy is the classic corporatist fascist artificial entrepreneur who owes everything he has to government. Musk wins—not through merit or creativity—but because he and his companies receive government favors—subsidies, protective regulations, tax breaks, or public contracts. His success is politically-engineered, not market-earned. Everything Trump is against.
Maybe Trump can have Musk transferred to Saudi Arabia’s futuristic city being built in the desert, Neom.
Somebody got up on the wrong side of the bed.
Troll
FloridaFredOutWest is also a long time Treeper.
All your comments are now under moderation…
Considering Larry Fink and Sam Altman are also in Saudi Arabia, why wouldn’t Musk be there too. I cannot overlook that horrible Larry Fink, head of Blackrock, who is a big time enemy of everything that I care about.
Thank you –
Yes, why not?
Starlink is present in Saudi Arabia, although it is not licensed to operate there directly. Speedcast offers satellite connectivity solutions that include multi-path connectivity options, which can be a viable alternative for seamless connectivity in the region.
Starlink has expanded its distribution to include Saudi Arabia through a partnership with F5, providing coverage for F5’s solution portfolio across several Middle Eastern countries. Additionally, there are companies with similar names operating in Saudi Arabia, such as Starlinks, which provides logistics solutions, and STARLINK, a company located in Al-Jubail, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
Why not? Because the United States belongs to the American people not the corporations for their never-ending greedy benefit. Great they want to make money but Musk, Fink, and Altman can do that anytime and fly there. U.S. public servants are to work for American citizen interests here at home and abroad, not directly for corporations and their bottom line.
Elon Musk Makes Huge Announcements in Saudi – YouTube
I need a bespoke woman, but they never listen.
Maybe Elon can hook me up?
Personally, I’m thrilled to see Musk in attendance. I guess you’d rather see Hogg, AOC, and perhaps Pelosi.
Maybe jasmine Crockett with AOC and Bernie Sanders?
How about none of them should be there.
DOGE *revealed* the rampant financial fraud, waste, & abuse unacknowledged & unchecked for decades throughout gov’t. –
congress has to act on that revelation for it to have any effect on the financial wellbeing of US – as in “saving taxpayers some money”. Mr. Musk doesn’t have/ wasn’t given any power to do the bit that actually makes the “savings” real – he only brought the Sunlight.
We’ll see what happens.
Why would you even care about Musk being there?
Because no one voted for him. He is not in the U.S. govt. and does not represent the American people.
This white hat/black hat thingy is obsolete
It’s worse than simplistic
We’ve been conditioned to look at our world thru this prism, largely because the subversive nature of The State demands we see things that way. Once you expose THEN subtract that element, what you have is world of competing interests that have one thing in common:
THEY WOULD LOVE TO CO-EXIST IN A WORLD WHERE THE GLOBALIST’S GOON SQUAD (CIA) STOPS SHITTING ALL OVER THER FRONT YARDS
The false choice of picking a side is a subversive, manufactured dichotomy, forever leaving a hatchet handle sticking out for the next power-play-du-jour to grab, wield, and cash-in. The accusations of “nationalism”, “fascism”, “Nazism”, “racism”, “sexism”, “homophobia”, and every word you can think of to imply religious extremism are perjoritives used for decades to create the strife and conflict, COLOR REVOLUTIONS (SEE: Ivy League Row) “divide and conquer” enabling power grabs, BY DESIGN, so global subverts can cash in and control these populations
Obama was the final assault on a crumbling wall that protected Americans from this crap when he destroyed Smith-Mundt in 2013, so everything happening in out country today is directly downstream from THAT, America has literally become the final frontier in the global power structure…UNTIL TRUMP
Just LOOK at the faces of all those Saudi dignitaries…THEY ARE TH8NKING ABOUT THEIR *DAUGHTERS* AS WELL AS THEIR SONS
I’m calling it: DONALD TRUMP IS THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL LEADER IN WORLD HISTORY
Very well stated.
I had the same reaction. What the heck is Musk doing there. No one elected him. Appreciate the DOGE work but it’s not like we couldn’t have had forensic accountants go in and do the same job.
Saudi Arabia as a sleepy village in the middle of the desert is an incredibly stale narrative that belies the mindset of those who spout it.
Their tech is one of, if not, the most outrageously expensive, streamlined and best in the world. Elon brings us to their level as a team member able to understand it, let alone converse about it. Why wouldn’t he be there?
Really interesting to see Elon Musk is with President Trump. The contrast between the Trump administration and the abomination that preceded them could not be greater. Every day is exciting, and I assume demoralizing for those miserable types who detest Trump, us, and the bright future our President is bringing our country.
The High-IQ Musk is getting a world-class tutorial in highest-level political relationships.
Musk observes everything, and is learning and broadening his ability to interact respectfully and effectively with world leaders.
Who better to learn from, than the President?
Having what may be the world’s richest msn by his side engenders respect as well from the Saudis.
I called out Musk for being President Trump’s handler months ago
attach to him at the hip everywhere
Does anybody know who the military man in the white hat behind President Trump is?
Looks like a Marine, probably an honor guard would be my guess.
The pageantry was also magnificent during President Trump’s Saudi visit in 2016. Nobody had ever seen anything like it. But the media never covered it. That’s mainly what has changed.
What does all that foreign Saudi pageantry have to do with the interests of the American people.
Why is Elon there?
May be they have something on Biden he can download and bring home
👍
Many other tech and business leaders are there as well. The purpose of the trip is building relationships and commerce.
…..or artificial intelligence.
Whatever you think about it, we have to lead or at least keep up with AI or we won’t survive in the new technologies coming at us full force.
The trick is to figure out ways to use it so it serves people instead of enslaving.
“The trick is to figure out ways to use it so it serves people instead of enslaving.”
Yes. Laws need to cover this before and not after enslavement.
How does this benefit the American people though? I get how it benefits the big tech corporations and their profits but the United States belongs to We The People.
I’m not a business advocate or good at it and don’t have a clue about high finance. But I learned a good lesson growing and up, and also right after I graduated from college and wanted to get a “real” job.
There were very few jobs available when I started looking. Over time I gained a lot of respect for the life my parents had provided and that it had depended on there being a labor market and their ability to find a place in the market. I had friends just as frustrated as I was and saw many of them take jobs that had something to do with what they had learned as part-timers in school. Those weren’t the jobs they dreamed of, but they were jobs.
What does this have to do with what President Trump is doing today? He’s creating opportunities for people by supporting the businesses that will be built in the coming years. The opportunities will come in the form of new jobs and changes to existing jobs and in some cases people might have to regroup/retrain through formal school or apprentice programs. But the bottom line is President Trump is creating jobs and that is what a country needs to survive and grow.
If we don’t have businesses creating jobs, we will slowly suffocate as a country, which is the road we were on before the 2024 election. You might say, well, work in education or some other field that “isn’t a business.” But it is businesses that create the foundation for all jobs.
When I was around eleven my father came home and announced he would have to go to California for a job because the copper company he worked for was going on what he thought would be a long strike. He did go and my life was a hundred percent different, not anywhere near as easy and secure as it had always been. Luckily the strike didn’t last long and when the next strike came he was in “management,” so he wasn’t going to lose income. But from that one small incident it was clear to me that a family must be able to support itself in some way. I gained a lot of respect for kids I knew who came from families who struggled (maybe the parents had trouble fitting in the labor market or for whatever reason the family had problems that hurt their ability to hold a job). Families are the heart of our civilization.
It’s also true that businesses often do things counter to people’s best interests. Think industrial pollution or our current problem with foreign work visas, for example. We must solve these problems. But we can’t just throw businesses in general under the bus and say forget about these evil and greedy people. Yes, many are evil and greedy, but we the people can’t do without a viable economic foundation, so we must work to solve the problems.
The economy — our economy — drives everything. There is no getting around it. This is part of the reason we have so many deaths from drugs. In recent years our bad governments have created situations where many people basically lost their lives or couldn’t get started in a life because of extreme challenges. Not everyone is flexible or can turn on a dime when a local economy crashes.
Granted people must work hard to become qualified and find the right fit of a job, basically to “do what it takes,” but at the end of the day the economy drives everything. Without a reasonable economy, people have very little chance.
You might say well a person can start a business. Yes, but that in itself is a skill, and it comes back to the same issue, which is that businesses are the foundation of our lives.
Sure, we are currently facing all kinds of horrors with how to deal with new technologies like AI without being made into slaves or prisoners of “the state.” But at the end of the day, our economy is the foundational of our lives.
So today President Trump is doing what he always tries to do: save “we the people” and our future generations.
Good post, unfortunately I don’t think DM will be able to read all of it and digest and/ or understand it, looking at things with only one perspective can give one a serious lack of understanding of how things actually work in the real world.
Think you are right, but I want to get another view out there for other readers. DM posted another comment to me and I answered that one as well! Do you think I’m incorrigible? You are likely right!
What I tried to emphasize in the second post is that we can’t go back to the way things were because what we had doesn’t exist any more. So many businesses/companies lost everything and were absorbed into big companies or what they did is not done the same as before, let alone what China gained, and the whole assembly and transporting (the supply chain) is now completely different. Another issue is the financial world is even more sophisticated and global now. What we used to have can’t be just be “brought back” like it was because in the true sense of the word it no longer exists.
When I first heard about the Saudi trip I wondered why he was doing it now, but now that I saw who was there and what they talked about, I get it. I thought the whole thing was amazing.
Because he’s a highly intelligent businessman.
Why not?
The visit is for making deals. I assume that is why Elon is there.
👍
Deals for Elon, Fink and Altman. Self-serving. Not for the American people.
PDJT World Tour-MAGA-American System
180* opposite to Obama’s apology tour.
Did he ever apologize for the Arab Spring?
Reconciliation was never Zero’s end.
What is the official duty assigned to Elon Musk on this momentous visit?
It’s not a good look for Musk to be tagging along on an official state visit without portfolio.
Musk, Zuckerboy, Sam something, and a bunch of other tech CEO’s are there to discuss AI investments.
Thank you for filling in the guest list. Zuckerberg? I detest and distrust the little weasel.
wrong. It’s a great look! Unlike the communist democrats, PDJT surrounds himself with smart and successful people.
I’m not so sure they are all to be trusted.
PDJT is to work for the American people only, not the bottom line of corporations. His oath is to the U.S. Constitution. Theirs is not.
President Trump is working for we the people. He’s been doing that 24/7 for years and has upped his ability big time in the last four and a half months.
MAGA!
It is a truly beautiful and uplifting look.
Maybe you should have the prescription for your glasses renewed. 😉
Some of those tagging along for “business” are not honest brokers for US success but for personal agendas above and beyond capitalism as an economic engine.
Many like Zuckerberg are in favor of censoring free speech others are simply globalists looking out for corporate advancement rather than aiding economic security in maintaining the sovereignty of the United States
Thank you for the friendly reminder. I also see hangers on who have boarded the economic rocketship piloted by President Trump.
They aren’t more than corporatist globalists. They realize at this moment the US is where their future growth lies.
As I see it, they are not committed to Making America Great, but that might be an ancillary development to their own ambitions. Most importantly, they go where the money is, if it’s in the United States that’s fine with them. If it’s elsewhere in the future that’s fine with these guys.
Exactly.
Uplifting for whom? Trump is only to be working directly for the American people, not private corporations and their bottom line of more profit, more profit, more profit.
This is a deal making trip.
I really do not understand all this hate directed towards Elon Musk. A literal genius in our midst who has transformed the space industry, developed a successful electric vehicle before anyone else. He should be getting accolades for all he has done for this Country.
My objection to Mr Musk is his Neuralink obsession.
Who ever would put their brain under the control of a man, any man, is not very wise.
So you object to those who once were confined to a wheel chair, no ability to communicate or do anything much at all… having the ability to now communicate? Maybe eventually able to walk again as the tech progresses?
It would be up to the individual if they are willing to trade independence and physical autonomy for the ability to think critically and make all decisions for themselves.
Would they care that the brain/technology interface makes them transhuman?
If the brain chip can make a paralytic walk and a blind man see, why stop there. Mind control has do many applications.
I will abide by the will of God for my life.
There’s no hate or even anger directed toward Mr. Musk in my comments. What I do feel is a healthy skepticism toward a man who is intent on developing a human/technology interface. That is trans humanism. You don’t need to be a sci-fi writer to understand the implications, not just for good but most importantly for evil ambitions.
God is the author of our existence. . . Our mind and heart are brought to life by the presence of the soul. If we surrender our physical, intellectual, emotional lives to technology interfaces where is God’s Divine Providence for our lives?
Deals for whom? Corporate globalists who want foreign cheap labor to replace American workers to increase their profits and spy on Americans. They can make that trip on their own time another day.
This is a trip by the head of state of the USA. Our public servants oath is to the U.S. Constitution ONLY. Musk’s and the others oath is to themselves and their profits globally. This has zero to do with the American people and our welfare, national interests, national security and individual prosperity interests in Milwaukee, Plano, Spokane, Helena, Boise or St. Louis.
You’re quick to point fingers at people. You are the “troll”. Your name identifies you.
Who are the other business leaders on this State visit.
I have little concern with them and much concern for the safety of President Trump on his mission of peace and cooperation among nations of a dangerous part of the world.
It is a business trip, deal making, tech involved. That’s why.
Fine if you trust the deal makers have the same love and loyalty to America that President Trump clearly has.
It is only my opinion but I think they’d be gone in a heartbeat for greener pastures if they think there’s a better prospect elsewhere. Isn’t that what multinational corporations are about?
The United States isn’t a business with some people/slaves in it. The corporate globalists can make their own trip on their own time. Not on America’s time to benefit themselves personally/financially.
You Poison have called 3 Treepers trolls in a very short time today (Dee, FloridaFredOutWest and Lorraine) who expressed their opinions. They have history here. Might be time for AdMin!
You are now blocked from posting at the Treehouse.
Anti-venom!
Why are Larry Fink, Elon Musk and Sam Altman there in Saudi Arabia? Was the evil Larry Ellison there too? I suppose I should be thrilled that Trump has hitched his wagon to Blackrock and the Techno Tyrants but I’m not. I didn’t realize that this site was so for Donald Trump that you would cheer the technocracy tyranny that President Trump is ushering in.
There is no reason to “suppose” that you should “be thrilled that….”. None at all, unless you feel compelled to agree with every comment posted here. Other commenters cannot dictate what you should be thrilled about.
By referencing this site, you must be referring to groupthink commenters. The owner of this site, by definition, does not do groupthink. Rather, he operates on the principle that we live life as it is, not as we wish it was.
The owner of this site reposted as follows on X:
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Aviva Klompas
@AvivaKlompas
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May 12
Let me break this down for you:
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/27a1.svg Qatar finances Hamas
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/27a1.svg Hamas tortured and held Edan hostage
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/27a1.svg Qatar demands Edan come thank them
Yes, I was talking about the commenters and it is discouraging to see so many here support, without question, President Trump. Time will tell what will come from this trip to Saudi Arabia and I will be happy to be wrong but I have read Revelation 13:16-17 too many times to support any AI run world of technotyranny.
Yes on Rev 13, etc. If that world of AI technotyranny comes in my lifetime (it WILL come in someone’s lifetime), I already know I will simply say, “No, thank you.” That decision is already made. The reality of possible consequences of my decision has been acknowledged. I have no fear of 666 or any of the related things. I will have the option to choose not to participate and I certainly may experience fear or confusion as consequences hit home, but I don’t care to burn energy before something occurs. I can’t afford to do that. The Lord is faithful.
“Qatar finances Hamas” – Not an American issue.
“Hamas tortured and held Edan hostage” – Edan is an Israeli citizen who was in an IDF uniform serving in the foreign military of a foreign country, Israel, when he was captured. So….not an American issue.
“Qatar demands Edan come thank them” – Still not an American issue.
The United States ha sits own country founded in North America and our history and interests literally have zero to do with the Middle East.
We either lead or at the very least keep up with technology in all forms or we perish. It’s not hard to understand.
President Trump is working to bring in investment money for U. S. businesses. (Hey, in case you have any doubts, that’s more productive leadership than travelling on a train to meet with an idiot and snorting cocaine along the way.)
The trolls are here in force today.
It is easy to call someone a troll just because they don’t genuflect to President Trump. He isn’t God and I don’t trust the Saudis, who were involved in 9/11. I don’t see why cozying up the Saudis and bringing the technotyrants and evil Larry Fink along for the ride is such a great idea, but I suspect I will rue the day I voted for Donald Trump the 3rd time.
Did you have the same sentiment when President Trump went to SA the first time? Most of the same BUSINESS people also were at that event.
Remember the old adage, well two of them. ‘Trust no one’ and ‘A nation has neither permanent enemies nor permanent friends, but nations will always have permanent interests’.
I don’t believe any of us will rue voting for President Trump the first,second or third time.
What was the alternative? Stupidity and pure evil.
Let’s see what happens. I stake the lives of my family and future generations on this choice.
I see the President fighting valiantly, for all Americans. Only God knows if he will be completely successful.
Don’t know if they are trolls but most definitely “negative Nellie’s”…excuse me, I see someone across the room I need to talk to….
It is a DEAL MAKING trip so of course USA business people are going to be present.
It is whom the business people are that is the problem.
They are the leaders in their industries.
Here’s a question that will turn your frown upside down…
Who hitched their wagon to who?
President Trump, as the Apex has not hitched his wagon to anyone.
It’s the other way around. Those others “got in line” and hitched their wagon to “The Supreme Commander”.
On the world stage he is “The Supreme Commander”. Here in the US, he is the Commander in Chief.
All were mostly likely given an opportunity. They were probably “Given an offer they couldn’t refuse.”
Most chose wisely and put their skin and money on the US and our system.
See how it works?
In golfing parlance, when playing the long game it would be phrased, “Sometimes you’ve got to let the Big Dog eat.”
This is bullshit. While this show is going on, the House passed a bullshit tax bill that does NOT exempt social security or pensions from taxation. No tax on tips or overtime, but retirees still get screwed … again. Get your ass BACK home, deal with these morons in the House, and fix your “big beautiful” tax bill. Do it.
FTA: “House Republicans on the Ways and Means Committee—led by Chairman Jason Smith (R-MO)—have released the text of a monumental new tax reform package titled “The One, Big, Beautiful Bill.” The bill, strongly backed by President Donald Trump, is aimed at delivering historic cuts to American families, workers, and small businesses.”
Yeah. Cranky today.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/here-it-is-house-republicans-release-trump-approved/
I heard last week that there is some impediment to doing the SS tax exemption in this bill and they are planning to do a separate bill.
However, this bill DOES include an extra $4k on the standard deduction for seniors making $75k for singles and $150k for couples. So, to me, this looks like a no tax on SS for the majority.
Axios is reporting the above here:
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/12/taxes-tips-big-beautiful-bill
An extra $4K on the standard deduction is nothing. Takes some off your taxable SS and pension income, but still taxes the rest. There is NO impediment to doing it in this bill. Oh, and while I am at it. No tax on overtime sounds good, but it is just another attack on the working man to benefit the employer. Forget overtime. Hire more workers. The employers like overtime because their benefit costs don’t go up like they would if they added another person to the payroll. No tax on overtime is a trick.
No, that’s not rain.
I do agree on the OT. Also, the no tax on tips will hurt the employee when it comes time to retire.
I am not understanding why the $4k doesn’t end tax on SS??? Who gets more than $75k in SS?
If you are upset that other pensions get taxed, when did he promise that? He specifically said Social Security as I recall.
Say you get $30K in SS or pension. $15K standard deduction leaves $15K of your benefits taxable. Adding $4K to the standard deduction just takes another $4K off, and that just reduces your t axable benefits to $11K. I know, it’s a bit more complicated than that, but merely increasing the standard deduction just reduces your taxable amount by a bit.
ALL Social Security and pension benefits should be tax free. Shouldn’t even need to report them. Used up and exhausted, and they come for the pennies on your eyes when you’re gone. SOB’s.
And you know darned well that restaurants will say “Hey, you don’t pay taxes, so now you are 100% tips. Oh, and buy your own health insurance.
A thousand upvotes!
Our interests and nation is not in the Middle East. We need to get home and stay home and work for Americans only. That was kind of the whole point in having our own country. Trump can say what he wants and sign all the executive orders he wants but if they aren’t turned into laws then it’s all for nothing. He should be on tv everyday telling the American people that Congress, both parties, are refusing to pass the bills the people voted for. All day, every day until it is done.
No insult intended to the Saudis, but I’d be more comfortable if I saw more SS and closer.
PDJT, Rockin a Purple tie..💜🥳
How about that carpet, D?!?! Miles & miles of it.
Purple is the best color… and our POTUS is the equivalent of American Royalty – worldwide.
So he can wear it all he wants imo…. we must take back all the good things that have been coopted & stolen by the usurpers.
15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis. 2024 FBI file releases conclusively proved that not only was Saudi financing of Al Qaeda essential to the realization of that attack against the US, but high-ranking members of the Saudi government were implicated in financing and planning with the folks who actually made it happen.
Saudi Araba is a terrorist enabler and directly responsible for the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor, with more total casualties.
The President and the US should not be cozying up to Saudi Arabia. They are not our friends. They are Islamic terrorists.
Just look at their flag: Green is the color of Islam, the sword a symbol of conquering for the faith, and the words “There is no deity but God; Muhammad is the Messenger of God”.
This is not a nation we need to befriend, no matter how much oil money they have.
Agree…keep thinking of the O’Jays song…Backstabbers…
“They smile in your face…all the time they want to take your place…the Backstabbers…
The Saudis are like the Chinese. They do their own thing and don’t talk about it much. If they like you they will be your friend up to a point. If they want to do something they do it and can be pretty ruthless. Probably not to be trusted very much.
I do think there is a difference in the ruling family now, than when 911 happened.
It’s the same family. But it doesn’t matter. The point is we need nothing from this country or that region. Trump has no American business there other than announcing he’s closing all U.S. bases and bringing all of our military home, not to be used as bait to get the U.S into another foreign war for foreign countries.
Different faction of the family.
If by now you cannot accept that 9/11 was a false flag opp used by the deep state to hide the theft of bllions and to bring about the surveillance state then there is nothing that can be said that will change your mind.
It was also used to lure the U.S military into the Middle East, forever, to be used to fight the foreign wars of Israel. A Clean Break and PNAC. That is treason. Like NATO. once they get our military into these foreign countries, they come up with excuses and false flags to keep us there. Shut it all down. Permanent war at the expense of the United States.
Really?
If the Saudis are “not our friends,” what would it look like if they were?
We have had massive American military presence in Saudi Arabia–paid for by our friends, the Saudis. We began this relationship in the 1960s, and it has continued till today.
“Eskan Village Air Force Base in Riyadh, SAUDI ARABIARiyadh, US Military Bases in Saudi Arabia
While US military sites are scattered throughout various part of the globe, the country of Saudi Arabia does have the Eskan Village Air Base Saudi Arabia as a functioning and welcoming army base that serves both as long-term residence for people in the air force”
Other American military facilities in Saudi Arabia include, or have included:
We don’t need the foreign countries in the Middle East to be our “friends”. We should not have our military in any of these countries.
I opened up Eskon Villiage.
Made furniture out of empty MRE boxes.
Spent time also at Prince Sultan AB and at Taif, wonderful climate in Taif.
We have our own oil. We do not need foreign oil.
WUT?
No FIST BUMP under the portico?
Then MBS presents Trump to the Saudi Kingdom as “God Bless the USA” plays in the auditorium!
I can’t stop laughing….
I can;t tell if they are being respectful or mocking him playing “God Bless
the USA” while POTUS stands on stage alone almost like at a rally.
Why would they mock him?
(Smell Check Stinks)
I wondered that too for a microsecond, but I quickly realized both parties had to plan it, so it was just the usual rally setup albeit reconfigured for a world stage.
I was too and then to end with YMCA was just the cream on the top, lol. Doing a rally in Saudi Arabia for the USA. Our President is in cool guy.
This is an AMAZING event.
It is! President Trump is bringing innovators and successful business leaders together with leaders in the Middle East for the purpose of creating new ways for countries to co-exist.
He’s he!ping to lay the foundation for a new way of living, which is for countries to respect each other and their people and to build societies that thrive. His announcement about his hope for Syria lit up the room.
President Trump is sowing seeds focused on building a new world. It seems people everywhere are fee!ing the vibe. I hope Russia can become part of it, even China if they could somehow wake up from their obsession with the previous century of war and domination led by the lunatic globullusts.
It truly is amazing. So many new connections are being created with the hope of a world where people turn their backs on chaos and destruction.
“President Trump is bringing innovators and successful business leaders together with leaders in the Middle East for the purpose of creating new ways for countries to co-exist.”
That’s not his job or oath of office. The U.S. is in North America. Whether or not countries in the Middle East, Europe or Asia co-exist or not is their problem, not ours.
I wrote a long reply to you from one of your other posts on this same issue. The point in the other reply is the same as here. Our economy is the foundation of everything and by creating opportunities that will lead to jobs, President Trump is strengthening and building our economy.
It is us who must co-exist with the world in a way that benefits our country, and that means dealing with other countries.
Being an isolationist was maybe a possibility in times past, but we don’t need to go into that. I don’t think with the state of the world now that it is a possibility.
Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look at it, in the modern world we on this planet are all in it together. It does matter what happens in other countries, some more than others, depending on how much their economy influences world markets or they have the ability to influence our economy.
Bottom line: President Trump is working to ensure our future.
Additionally, we might consider that during the 45th PDJT participated in Saudi Arabia’s initiation of a new intelligence organization.
One that did not use normal Derp State channels, enabling sidestepping the IC.
Musk is involved in the build out of intelligence capabilities, and whether that’s why he’s there or not, I suspect that’s part of why PDJT is there now.
Who’s zooming who?
But we do not need foreign countries to create jobs for Americans in our own country. That is my point. We were self-sufficient before and it only ended when our crooked politicians started working for the corporations and shipped our manufacturing, jobs, overseas. We are one of the few countries on earth that is not dependent on foreign countries to be prosperous and take care of ourselves, feed ourselves, create businesses, invent whatever you can imagine.
I don’t know any American that would want to work for a Chinese or Saudi company in our own country over an American one. It can also become a national security issue depending on the country. That is providing them with the ability to influence our economy. That is dangerous. We aren’t some weak, helpless, people who need Saudi Arabia, China, India or Israel to use us for their benefit and act like they’re doing us a favor. Our future cannot be dependent when we can clearly do it in-house ourselves just as we always did.
From the Presidents lips to your ears…“As president of the United States, my preference will always be for peace and partnership, whenever those outcomes can be achieved.In recent years, far too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion that it’s our job to look into the souls of foreign leaders and use U.S. policy to dispense justice for their sins.”
Blessed are the peacemakers
Agree 100 percent, especially about the crooked politicians shipping our jobs overseas, although that whole scheme was/is at the behest of the globablists. The politicians are their front men who carry out the dirty work in exchange for payment.
I wish we could just “bring it all back” as you say, and then everything would be like it was. But that is not realistic. Just “bringing back” all the manufacturing is a monumental effort. The bigger problem is that the “it” in many cases doesn’t exist any more. Many people lost everything and a lot of money and assets have been consolidated into big companies who now own parts of what used to be owned by more companies. And that’s aside from what China has managed to gain. Further, there is a whole new supply chain that includes many countries in the assembly and moving of “stuff.” It just isn’t the same world, no matter how much we would like to just “get it back.”
In terms of new things, President Trump is looking for investment dollars, for example investment for data center and datacenter infrastructure, which includes power. This is a whole new ballgame and requires beaucoup bucks.
Why is he doing that? I assume because he thinks it is the more investment dollars the better in terms of the new things he wants to do. In terms of “bringing back” manufacturing, he also seems to think that the more new investments the better. This is likely due to the complexity of the financial world now and also the complications of big companies now owning and controlling so much.
We are also in a war with China due to all the jobs that went there and also due to all the out of balance trading policies.
We have also thrown money away hand over fist for no good reason except that was the globalist plan, by subsidizing and supporting Europe and Canada for the last 80 years or so. That’s not even taking into account all the waste from the woke left. It goes on and on and meanwhile our infrastructure is a mess and China is beating us in AI, or at the least is even with us. AI is not only commerce; it’s military and we can’t afford to be second best.
Given all this, President Trump apparently wants as much investment as he can get, which logically makes sense given the mess that is our economy.
All these issues, including what is now the global sophistication of the financial world, are factors President Trump is dealing with.
But the real biggie of factors is that he is this: He’s fighting the globalists who want to stall and wait him out and take over again when they are able to grab back power.
Everything President Trump does is to fight the fight against the factors that are hurting our economy and against the globalists. He wants to fundamentally shift it all, not only because it is needed, but also to stave off anything the globalists can do to continue with their plan to take over everything.
And guess what? He’s the general. Lucky for us he actually understands money/finance, which is a first from any president I’ve known.
If you think you have a better person in mind to achieve all these goals, or a better plan, you need to rethink what he’s up against. We don’t live in the same world as we did in the 1990s and the beginning of this century, and to the any extent that we did we were completely clueless and contributed to the problem (which are the things that President Trump often talked about, like NAFTA).
The bottom line is times have changed and President Trump is doing what he has decided needs to get done to achieve his goals. Good for us, he has a great track record.
From the Presidents lips to your ears…“As president of the United States, my preference will always be for peace and partnership, whenever those outcomes can be achieved.In recent years, far too many American presidents have been afflicted with the notion that it’s our job to look into the souls of foreign leaders and use U.S. policy to dispense justice for their sins.”
Blessed are the peacemakers
America is not an isolationist country. We work with the world, many countries, to drive our economy and theirs. It is the President’s job to protect our country and thus protect our economy so we have a strong, healthy economy and way of life. Not hard to understand why a President would meet world leaders and try to negotiate trade deals and stop wars.
For whom? What does this have to do with the American people and our interests.
Sooner rather than later we need to stop being the world’s arms dealer. It does not benefit We The People and our republic.
I also don’t see what the Abraham Accords have to do with the United States. Bribing foreign countries half way around the world we need nothing from to be nice to another foreign country we need nothing from isn’t America First. It isn’t even American.
It brings an end to WARS.
Peace is the goal.
These aren’t our wars. Not our job to bring an end to foreign wars involving foreign countries in foreign lands. Trump was elected to end U.S. involvement, of which there never should have been any, in these foreign wars. All he has to do is not fund these foreign wars with U.S. tax dollars or send any U.S. military equipment and remove all U.S. military and IC personnel from these countries. End of.
To be a peace maker is God’s directive and Pres. Trump is trying to do that in numerous places. I’d say that benefits all Americans and the world actually.
Not only did Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick show up, but they brought along White House advisor Elon Musk, Palantir’s Alex Karp, Blackstone’s Stephen Schwarzman, BlackRock’s Larry Fink, and a bunch of other business leaders………..
https://www.emerald.tv/p/did-trump-break-up-with-netanyahu
Also Secretary Hegseth. This is an amazing event.
It’s a party for sure and if you weren’t invited (read EU, China and certain other countries), maybe if you behave better your conduct will allow it in the future. In the meantime, enjoy the FOMO.
The Saudis are pouring it on thick here. Never would I have thought
We would see POTUS Standing alone on stage while “God Bless the USA is
playing” almost like one of his rallies..
How does this benefit American citizens in America?
And with President Trump’s wonderful speech and accolades for the Crown Prince and the country….EU was wiped all the map.
So impressive. God bless President Trump.
Remember the reception and look of bemusement on MBS’s face when Mr. Potustoehead went over and fist bumped him.
I love a conference room you can land a plane in.
LOL….I’d hate to vacuum all that carpeting!
Exactly. Expansive unoccupied floor space as a statement is the ultimate sign of wealth, and knowing it.
Windmills and solar panels didn’t build that.
Arabs in the Promised Land™?
Here’s What Could Come Of Trump’s Whirlwind Middle Eastern Tour
https://dailycaller.com/2025/05/12/heres-what-could-come-of-trumps-whirlwind-middle-eastern-tour
Saudi Arabia has mobile McDonald’s in case Trump gets Big Mac urge
now that’s what i call R-E-S-P-E-C-T !😁
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14706779/donald-trump-live-updates-qatar-saudi-arabia.html
Since when do the American people need respect from Saudi Arabia?
They surely appreciate getting more than this:
They were one of the countries directly involved in 9/11. I don’t care what they appreciate. And to be fair to Biden, that’s all he could muster. He wasn’t running anything and the world knew it.
Were they?
Sure, hijackers and the IC critter Bin Laden were of Saudi extraction, that paints a fingerprint on Saudi Arabia, but what else do you, or anyone, have to demonstrate they weren’t all played by foreign actors?
Never been one to hate whom I’ve been told I should hate; all too often the accuser is the miscreant.
Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State MUST be destroyed!!
No one needs respect. It’s usually given freely and is a very welcome action. The President gets it when countries give it. That’s important and a win for America.
I’d like to be happy about all of this, but am not convinced that Saudi Arabia ( and our I.C.) weren’t involved with 9/11.
And Israel.
Pretty easy to round up some Saudis for such a scheme as 9/11.
But who really rounded them up and ran the operation?
Was Saudi Arabia set up?
Are we close to them now for reasons that PDJT can’t yet disclose?
Man they really murder our national anthem, but hey, they mean well.
Do they?
Extraordinary show of respect. Nobody gets this kind of Royal treatment except Muslims accept of course our president.
Only American president to get this treatment. It’s all about respect.
But what does that have to do with the American people and our interests?
Dolly, maybe get up from your computer and go for a walk. Your repetitive posts will cause fellow Treepers to scroll past any meaningful posts you make in the future.
Good evening ElGato. See my comment at 8:25pm about the middle of this page. After I posted I did exactly that and scrolled past all her other comments, and will do so in the future. Thanks and have a wonderful evening.
That ship sailed hours ago….
I recommend decaf.
Or a hobby.
Haters will say this is photoshopped.
Love this. Very clever.
Trump.
Defining the term “Presidential”.
Period.
I see that President Trump rattled the Shrubs and they are sending out prickly shoots… 😉 How funny.
I believe vegas was about a civil war in the House of Saud. One the ic knew about, and participated in.
The President and MBS have survived a lot. The later has far more longitude and latitude, on how he can handle those betrayals. It is good to be crown prince in that situation.
I would like to believe MBS is a great friend and business partner to the president. With a common goal of good for both nations.
Saudi is a different nation, religion and culture. They have their faults, just as we have ours. It is not prudent to get sanctimonious about religious dogma in someone else’s home. If we trade and do business.
There is a right way and wrong way. No one here appreciates a flood of foreign hooligans Fing up our way anymore than they appreciate a bunch of slick used car salesman Fing up theirs.
Maybe just maybe, we can both get rid of a lot of rats in the woodshed in the process.
I haven’t read this thread, so if I am repeating what is already been said, apologies.
So why is Musk on this trip? Is it to facilitate the sale of AI-based defense systems, or is he looking for “inefficiencies” in other governments now?
Are the golden guns real?
Heck of a walk there, can’t picture Joey doing it. The Prince sure is a twinkle eye smiling man. I wonder if he is nice to his wives?
Kudos to POTUS 47.
Gold plated, I would bet they still function as they are supposed to.🖖🏻
That princess is really charming. I wonder what they were talking about the whole time.
It’s supposed to say prince not princess
Plus SecDef Pete!
MSB could be the middle east 900# gorilla. ME certainly needs one.