In an interesting soundbite was sent to me for review. Within the interview with Joe Rogan, JD Vance outlines what he thinks would be an awesome philanthropic investment by Elon Musk.
Speaking about the need for authentic investigative journalism, Vance ponders the effectiveness of someone traveling the world to dig deep into the actual constructs, the facts that surround the stories. Perhaps Vance just doesn’t realize it, but there are people already doing exactly this assignment.
🚨VANCE: “You need good reporters who have investigatory skills who are empowered by their employers to go out and investigate. I told Elon that the most useful piece of philanthropy if you’re a right of center American, is to set up a non-profit where you pay a really good… pic.twitter.com/0yLk7IJ2cm
— Autism Capital 🧩 (@AutismCapital) October 31, 2024
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Speaking only for myself, our CTH community doesn’t need, nor want, the influence that comes from billionaire funding. Knowing how the system mechanics work, I could never truly trust the information outcome from a billionaire funded voice.
Truthful information sharing is contingent upon total independence. Sometimes in order to be genuine and authentic to the purpose you have the call the baby ugly knowing the audience is not going to like it.
It’s a lonely mission, but with faith underpinning the objective, you are never alone.
All politicians in DC operate in an information bubble which is tightly controlled.
Maybe they need a large citizen’s advisory group to keep them up to date on what is actually going on outside their bubble.
Not sure how it would work, but the average citizen needs to pierce that bubble. The citizens need their own lobby group to compete with all the other lobby groups influencing politicians.
I am finding most public officials in my local area aren’t that interested in hearing from the public. I know they get a lot of complaining and not many, if any, kudos, but when the police chief says you are asking too many questions about an event that occurred….I’m thinking they easily forget who they work for and want to keep some information away from us. And it may be they did something wrong.
police
work for the mayors office
the sheriff
is elected by the people
a very important distinction
Not in King County, WA. They put the Sheriff under the County Government a few years back.
upvote:
IF the people
of King County
didnt recall and impeach
the County Commissioners
then by their silence
they have agreed
and the people
got what they allowed
so
this is still under the direction
of the people
and
aubject
to the people
recalling and impeaching the commissioners
and revoking the order to place the sheriff in that capacity
Not every municipality, county, township, state has stipulated and documented a formal process for recall and/or impeachment or elected officials short of the official committing a hard crime -felony.
upvote:
i wont live where that is the case
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thanks for the respectful posts and exchanges
showcasing the varieties of administration
is what causes treepers / lurkers to ask:
how does my city / county work?
capturing our counties
is how we win
Bravo!
Most need pitchforks and torches at their backsides to remain focused and headed the right way.
The problem is that gov’t “service” doesn’t attract people of exemplary character & talent. Very low bar to meet to be hired. And then they’ve got a perpetual title to pay for mediocre EVERYTHING.
We need to start by eliminating “politician” as a career.
Treat lobbying as what it is — bribery. Prosecute it relentlessly.
We agree SD. There’s truth to the adage that “He who has the gold makes the rules.”
That’s who would be choosing the investigator, subjects of investigation, the depth & duration & whether the outcome is public knowledge or not. All that is there without even discussing the viewpoint conflict inherent in such a process.
Ultimately, God makes the rules:
Psalm 50:10-12
For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills.I know all the fowls of the mountains: and the wild beasts of the field are mine.If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.
Haggai 2:8
The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, saith the LORD of hosts.
While we know this to be true in the larger sense… it provides little information in the short term.
God has chosen to temporarily cede control of the gold & silver to a small faction of oligarchs. Since he has not shared the details of His plans, it’s up to us to use all of the information that we do have to make good decisions.
I agree, Sundance.
I have no problem with a wealthy person helping fund the search for the truth, but far too often they then think they can shape the news as some sort or reward.
No.
Uh-uh.
See ya.
Everyone in the Treehouse appreciates your dedicated, tireless work, Sundance!
Elon Musk has taken billions in taxpayer money to fund Tesla, Solar City and SpaceX.
Climate change is a hoax and any one who has profited from it should be excluded from working in the Government to cuts costs.
Is Elon willing to stop taking money from the government for his companies? First question…
He isn’t “taking money from the government.” He is providing a service to the government, and one that no one else can provide. And his price for the service is much, much cheaper than any other service provider, like Boeing. (Speaking specifically about SpaceX.)
He is taking money – he has taken BILLIONs for Telsa.. Billions
Doesn’t apply to Tesla and Solar City and his Net Worth is solely based on Tesla stock – nothing from Solar City or SpaceX or any other company he owns.
Tesla is a joke – EV’s are a joke and Climate Change is a hoax and if Elon Musk wants any credibility he needs to get off the Climate Change Hoax which is the holy grail of the left.
I agree fully with what you said. However, Musk, God bless him, more than any other large stakeholder (apart from Trump himself) believes, correctly, that we can have those debates only within the context of a free, capitalist, constitutional system that is free from Marxist-Leninist influences.
Show me one other large stakeholder who has even approached Musk’s commitment to our constitution, and our American heritage. Or that comprehends the battle of political ideologies more fully and sincerely than Musk.
When I say large stakeholder, I mean it quite literally because, in the strictest sense, money itself is not a thing of value unless the economic system actually rewards value. Musk, like other large stakeholders, is holding utterly worthless banknotes, or stock certificates if the financial system turns Marxist.
Yet he and others have already delivered to the hungry, needy, consuming public the fruits of their unique knowledge and have already paid all the input costs of labor and made all those sundry investments to create their goods and services that the general public is consuming and enjoying even as we speak. So now he (and others) awaits to see if paper instruments-let’s call them coupons for these purposes- will ever be worth anything approaching his investment of time, knowledge and money.
Up to this point, I thought it was shameful that the largest holders of potentially worthless coupons (banknotes and stock certificates) had never come forward to protect what we hold to be most valuable to our nation’s survival and our standard of living, i.e., our constitution and our capitalist, free enterprise system.
History will record that that there were only two such larger stakeholders who joined the fearless fight for our survival, i.e., the now-legendary Donald Trump, and the soon-to-be legendary Elon Musk.
“Show me one other large stakeholder who has even approached Musk’s commitment to our constitution, and our American heritage. Or that comprehends the battle of political ideologies more fully and sincerely than Musk.”
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Musk is compromised.
Why I take this position: free speech is the law in the US….he and others can explain its virtues which have been known for centuries. EASY to stand up for that principle – because it is the law.
Free speech is no longer the law in Brzil. Censorship is required.
After “holding out”for free speech, Musk CAVED and “X” is now operational again in that nation because they censor the Brazilians at the government’s instruction. His principle is not for liberty.
If you are a person of honor and integrity, you maintain your principles.
Musk’s principle is not about a free society or he would have taken the financial hit, knowing the citizens could become motivated to do something about their government just to get X back.
People no longer abide by noble principles because it would COST them something and be DIFFICULT.
to be fair, Brazil and nearly all other countries do not have first amendment rights/prohibitions of central state to curtain speech as does the United States.
most people really do not understand this. For example, Brazil pressured Twitter under jack smith to censor “undesirable” speech….and Jack Smith complied.
x (formerly Twitter), under elon was pressured to censor “undesirable” speech..Elon refused. Brazil responded in lawfare tactics by claiming x did not have a legal representative in the state of Brazil. The Brazil courts have ruled that not having legal reps violated it’s own laws. THAT is how brazil conjured up a hacked up legal angle to deny x business in Brazil. Isn’t it interesting that Brazil did not want to debate or discuss the actual speech that they wanted to censor? See how this works. ?
recently..a few months ago…a billionaire who owns/operates an encrypted message service was arrested in France. (detained..arrested…same same). His crime? his telegram app was allegedly being used by criminals and human traffickers in furtherance of crimes. But the problem with that allegation? how would they know. ? it’s an encrypted app. Not even TELGRAM itself can know what is being communicated. Only those party to the communications in questions would know. How would French law enforcement know there of ANY evidence of a crime? and even IF they had evidence, how does this comport to some mandate that telegram provide law enforcement with a back door ..for monitoring?
will the former Russian citizen owning telegram build a back door? unlikely.
see free speech is much more complicated in a world where secret police spy states want to listen to EVERYTHING.
give elon a break..understand the forces he is facing and realize the decisions he has made against those threats.
look at x….it’s a completely different platform now. You can say just about anything…there is SOME censoring yes, but that isn’t unusual….making violent criminal threats on THIS PLATFORM would get you ejected…believe that. and please don’t test that. We like it here. We like civil, but rough discussion. honest and open…but not giving the bastards a reason to try and shut us down or up.
God Bless America
tesla isnt about cars
its about data
and
batteries
if the US Administration / Congress
is funding contracts
executed by musk
yet he is openly discussing cutting government waste with Trump. . .
im ok with that
the battle is too large for infighting
Climate change is not a hoax! When will conservatives start talking about reality?
3 million years ago the arctic region was a grassland with many animals including a breed of camel. Bones were recently found a few hundred miles from the north pole on what is now a treeless barren gravel bed.
In the arctic region there is an underground tunnel through permafrost that has exposed bones and organic matter 20-50 feet below the surface. This has been dated and proven that 20k years ago there was NO permafrost, at least there.
During the ice age, about 10k years ago, America had half it’s land mass covered by ice up to a mile thick. It melted by natural changes in the climate and continues to this day. The glaciers melting are one of the very last indicators of the end of the ice age and the norm of a warmer earth settling back in.
The hoax is that humans are causing it. Ask anyone to explain how any of these three massive changes to our climate happened.
Climate change is the reality, trying to keep it the same is ignorance.
The way the commies refer to it is. Climate Change is definitely a hoax. I get your point but not your logic. The climate changes in a cyclical manner. The commies think it is changing because of what man does, which is idiotic.
climate change is the phrase used to coyly substitute for anthropologically caused death by heat crisis./
clime change is easier on the tongue and just smart enough sounding that the mob can parrot it back and forth and feel some special sense of deep moral duty to eat insects and not use deodorant.
yes, climate truthers are dumb as box of rocks.
WRONG! Musk isn’t “providing” anything. He is taking vast amounts of OUR money to subsidize his businesses. Because OUR money is laundered through the government by way of confiscatory tax laws, Musk is bought and paid for by government.
Is the government paying him as much of our money as they are paying Boeing? I couldn’t care less. The TRUTH is that it’s our money being confiscated for the purpose of buying a billionaire. I don’t trust anyone bought and paid for by corrupt politicians/bureaucrats.
Umm. People who have suffered through Hurricane Helene and have lost everything, including long-distance communication before Elon provided Starlink might disagree with you.
“People who have suffered through Hurricane Helene and have lost everything, including long-distance communication before Elon provided Starlink might disagree with you.”
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FACT CHECK:
✅ CONFIRMED
sadly, the absolutist result of what you are saying would dissalow President Trump from being President.
President Trump operated many of his businesses taking advantage of perfectly legal tax avoidance schemes and yes received public funding.
I am skeptical of very rich people as a general rule, but that does not force me to stop thinking how they can be useful as long as they are in fact useful in promoting and gaining economic security for the country or even a small region of it.
For example, I was a driver for a very wealthy oil business due in Thibodeax Louisiana. He was my neighbor. A fine man and a great family. Still friends. He took advantage of every single tax avoidance and state and federal subsidy that he could. perfectly legal. And if he wasn’t doing it, then his competitor was and that is a very important business decision. Everything from state workforce training programs to business development grants to property and building development loans of which many were converted to simple grants and tax free or deferred tax programs. But what made the difference is that he was investing in his community and hiring locals and raising the economic security of the entire lafourche parish. A parish that had been so dependent on sugar cane production but could not longer compete in global market for sugar products. I liked him. he was genuine and deserved to be wealthy..because he worked hard and because he was genuinely devoted to the people in his community. We must never forget that rich people are not all wicked screwed up selfish assholes. Many of them are not that at all. We just have in recent decades seen the toxic element within the rich club that doesn’t actually want to produce anything at all. Takers….the worst kind of person.
is Elon a taker. if you read the internets, you might come to that conclusion..but he produces…whether you agree with global co2 and death by heat crisis or not (I do not to be clear), he is producing EV for a global market that will be buying them even if he never entered the market. He just happens to make the best ev cars PERIOD. (I don’t even like ev cars..not my cup of tea and the physics and real world economics are completed out of sync versus internal combusion gas/diesel)…He has space x which has proven things possible that NASA not only was not going to do, but did not even have plans to do. At costs almost 2 magnitudes of order LESS than the public funded NASA programs. It is because of Musk that we no longer rely on RUSSIA to put our own astronauts into space. That is something NASA could not seem to solve. He did that.
I think of Elon as the modern day Howard Hughes. An enigmatic genius. A patriot, but also unnervingly weird. My world is big enough that people like Elon belong in it. We need people like elon who take bold risks to do things that no one else is doing…a visionary..but also a true engineer…and someone not afraid to talk out loud and even make big mistakes and an ass of his/her self. I believe that is also A very important American character. that we be unafraid to make mistakes. that we are bold to say things that are unpopular..and even wrong.
Am I a fan boy of Elon…no…But he is going to be useful in the transfer of power. stage 4, revolution.
the bulk of the work happens when WE THE PEOPLE ORGANIZE OUR OWN AGENDA. but that never happens in a revolution without champions…and even martyrs.
God Bless America
perhaps the poor, the middle class, the rich, the blacks, the hispanics, etc.
all have their own agendas outside of Make America Great Again.
Case in point: in Chicago, the blacks are in an uproar over money going
to illegals and refugees; monies that they think should be given to blacks.
Perhaps a panel with participants from many different groups could be
challenged with a fact finding mission on how to reduce government waste?
Would they include their own groups when making their recommendations?
Would be interesting to see.
btw, my answer would be to cut out entire groups from the feds
(education for one; let the states control their education).
and reduce funding by 10-20% with some other groups.
Put them on a strict budget under continuous review.
Perhaps a panel with participants from many different groups could be
challenged with a fact finding mission yada yada …
You’ve got a lot of faith in “panels”
Meh. Throw it on the table. I don’t automatically believe anyone or anything. This will just be another thing to examine with skepticism and assign a value to.
I respectfully disagree with this critique that seems to misinterpret a small part of JD Vance’s conversation with Joe Rogan in a three-hour segment. I believe that trust is a crucial element in our relationships and should not be dismissed out of hand.
On the topic of trust, it’s been my experience that skeptics routinely remain skeptical. Some people can’t swallow the notion that a person can trust others without being gullible, but skeptics can not.
I have reviewed peer-reviewed professional psychologists’ research on trust versus distrust and concluded that it pays to trust: believing that others can be taken at their word unless you have proof to the contrary. The debate on the benefits of trust or distrust has generated substantial research that points to the positive aspects of trust and generally characterizes distrust as a negative phenomenon.
Therefore, many researchers and practitioners assume trust is inherently good, and distrust is intrinsically bad. However, recent counterintuitive evidence indicates that the opposite might be true; trust can prove detrimental, and distrust is instrumental in small and large group decision-making.
If people can take a leap of faith in conversations and relationships, they are more likely to be happier, well-liked, have a larger circle of friends, and be relatively well-adjusted adults. At the same time, they are more trustworthy and inclined to give those who offend a second chance.
“Peer-reviewed professional psychologists’ research?”
Gee Golly! That sure sounds impressive! I guess we should just go ahead and blindly “follow the science.”
We don’t need no stinking critical thinking or discernment when we have “peer-reviewed professional psychologists’ research” to lead the sheeple.
In most cases peer-reviewed simply means there was a well thought out conceptualization of a problem/issues that was operationalized through a valid methodology that produced a reliable measured outcome that can be reproduced and result in similar findings. I guess this could also apply to the left’s political BS they continue to verbalize.
In most cases, “peer reviewed” simply means that an unknown person or group of people gave something their stamp of approval. They may or not have confirmed the methodology or the validity of the results, and it’s not unheard for publications to give a pass because they agree with the agenda behind the study. Alternatively, studies that don’t toe the party line don’t have a chance of passing peer review.
It turns out that we need journalism and journalists. We don’t have them anymore because all “mainstream” news outlets are nothing but very carefully curated Marxist propaganda. How to replace a large industry that has been ideologically corrupted? It will not be easy, but it needs to happen if the republic is to survive.
We have them, but now they’re called alt media. I like Badlandsmedia myself!
I automatically ignore stories that cite “unnamed sources.” Give me a named source, paper or undoctored video (full video so nothing is taken out of context) and then I will perhaps listen.
If ever we could remove the MSM talons from the cable conglomerates, that would be the best start in improving news-gathering & reporting.
As it is , still, we only have the fascist news networks spewing only what the serious trash heaps, etc. will allow.
Even Fox needs a good cleansing.
Two words, “cut cable.” Better digestion, better sleep, saves money. Become a Treeper. Many Americans are disciples of cable. Sports, news, financials, & entertainment. (Pleasure) Several great books going; “Resiliant” by John Eldridge, “Pure Grace” by Clark Whitten, Roy Sebag’s “The natural order of money” & drum roll…The Bible! So grateful to Mr Sundance & the fellow members of this site.
What is wrong with news that is conservative and liberal at the same time? Newsmax claims conservative. Do you want them to put more liberal gibberish on? ABCNNBCBS claim to be fair but are not. It seems that many have given up on FOX because they are now leaning more to the middle.
Sometimes I wish Newsmax would include a bit more lefty perspective. I think FOX is closer to what we should all want, news that provides many sides of an issue. Back when Hannity was Hannity and Colmes, he was at least watchable.
Even Sundance could open his mind a bit and speculate about the good intentions of government that has gone bad. I would appreciate a consortium of Treeper types that investigate, debate the truth, share discussions and opinions between each other. I know we get this with many excellent posts but we are consumers and contribute rather than originate.
We don’t need news organizations promoting one view or another. We just need them to report the plain facts without bias or commentary. This is what the Associated Press used to do, and CNN in its earliest days.
I agree.
My example would be The Duran.
Alex is in Cyprus and Alexander is in London.
Alex frequently travels Europe, and does
his podcasts from whatever location he
is in.
And their live podcasts have guests from
all over the world. That is how I found out
who Gonzalo Lira was, he was a frequent
guest.
Individual journalism is happening on
many platforms….without big money
being involved. 👏👏
I support Independent Journalism.
It appears that what JD is
saying…..put Independent journalists
under control ….🥴 shape the narrative.
Independent journalists are the group
shining a spotlight on the propaganda
narratives of mainstream media and corrupt
politicians. Good.
Examples…..
Judge Napolitano had Pepe Escobar
as guest. Pepe was in
Kazan during BRICS+ meeting in Kazan.
Rachel Blevins had podcasts recently
with Journalist in Lebanon when the
bombings began.
Levan Gudadze gives podcasts from Russia,
and another young lady has podcasts from
Poland.
Brian lives in Thailand and he is informed
on what is happening in the Asian area.
Professor Marandi whenever he is a guest
on a podcast gives Iranian perspective.
Patrick Lancaster in Ukraine.
Daniel Davis gives military insight.
Larry Johnson gives IC insight.
Glenn Greenwald and Max Blumenthal
are excellent investigative reporters.
And once again I am reminded of
Gonzalo Lira, and how during podcasts
he would be chain smoking😃
There are so many….and each have a
different perspective and knowledge
base.
Sundance gives the best reporting on
economics and US politics.👏👏👏👊
You knew that Gonzalo has died, right? In a Ukrainian prison.
JD is living in the DC-Senate silo. He’s really ignorant that not only is Sundance the best one doing on the ground in investigative journalism domestically & internationally, including Russia, but to a lesser degree and not to the standard of SD’s work product, I believe War Room does this. James O’Keefe/OMG does this & was raided by the FIB for doing so. There are others.
How can Vance be unaware of these independent investigative journalists?
This begs the question, where is Vance getting his print/audio journalistic information from? CNN? Gubmint stats?
Vance is less informed than Treepers.
Nice he knows he is uneducated on real-time bona fide investigative journalism like CTH, but I disagree with Elon or anyone setting up a 501(3)(c) to oversee “independent investigative journalists” who will in time not be “independent”. That’s a bunny rabbit trail that leads to trouble.
Now, I will always question who/where he gets his info from.
Where does any politician get their news and information from? That is key to their decisions and a question I ask whenever I get an opportunity to talk with candidates.
Would you ever vote for someone who says CNN is my go to, like Never Nikki?
Politicians should only be allowed to meet for say, 2 months in DC. 10 months should be spent in their home districts with their families, sleeping in their own beds, pumping their own gas, shopping for groceries and personally sitting in their home office in their own district. I’d make the home district office in a police station, that would negate the “security” issue. Being in a Police station would give them all the information they need to see how the country is doing and make informed decisions.
Yep, I agree.
Any meetings in the interim can be done via zoom.
This would also help to cut down on lobbyist influence.
See http://www.TacticalCivics.com or
http://Www.thirty-thousand.org
Same goal, varying approach.
Great idea – the way it used to be.
As someone who wrote in the old system (magazines with advertisers), I can say that any monetary influence is always a slippery slope. Theoretically, the publishing end of the house was ‘at war’ with the business end of the house and vice versa. The two sides did not socialize and turf was staunchly defended. That theoretically represented the free. But in practice, one also had to deal with subscribers and big money, which is why so few stories existed about so many issues. I am speaking about a time 25 years in the past. The new tyrannies with respect to content are far more strident and often far more invisible. Throwing billionaire money onto the issue will not change that for the better.
Sundance is a geniune treasure. Following the “real” information to wherever it leads is the mark of a true hero.
yes whomever is paying becomes the master. that is why government employees can rarely, if ever actually serve the public for a sustained duration and why corruption inevitably follows.
“Speaking only for myself, our CTH community doesn’t need, nor want, the influence that comes from billionaire funding. Knowing how the system mechanics work, I could never truly trust the information outcome from a billionaire funded voice.” Sundance
Does that include the “billionaire funding” his own campaign for President??
You are absolutely the best.
Vance also made some curious statements regarding the cyber attack on his and Trump’s phones.
Attribution of the perpetrator of an attack is rarely black and white and belief in attribution of an attacker surprisingly depends upon trust in an analyst.
Also, it is simply untrue that messages transmitted are secure if they are encrypted. If Vance truly believes this, which is hard for me to believe, he needs education. No sensitive info should ever be transmitted or stored on a cell phone.
Lastly, he claimed the Patriot Act is why the attackers were discovered, implying rhos was a benefit of this legislation. That in my judgement, is not true.
Things that make me go hmmm.
OK, so join me in inviting Mr. Vance to the treehouse.
Isn’t that the problem right now? Too many rich people running things as everything is now based on money and not truth or ability? President Trump, fortunately has both.
You want poor people running things?
So you’ve eliminated the middle and upper class?
fantastic post
its often strikes me how many who want liberty
are upset at how others
exercise their liberty
one can believe whatever they choose
and
act in any manner
that doesnt
harm others by intent or malfeasance
and i will defend them
even if i dont like them
or their beliefs
be well
do good
📫
Billionaire funded journalism. What a novel idea.
Hearst, Murdochs, Bezos..the truth seers of our age. Let’s have more of that.
I’d like to know what his daily new feeds are. Sounds like he’s speaking from
inside the Wash D.C. news silo.
You’re alittle late to the party, JD. It’s called citizen journalism and you’ll
find’em on the internet, maybe radio stations, not the TV.
Jack Cashell calls them “samizdats”, self-publishers. CTH is one, as an example.
INDEPENDANT citizens speaking truth to power and their influence is growing.
Billionaire backed no-strings-attached independent journalists..yeah, right. SHAADUUP!
Folks, we have a lot of influence here at CTH. Name the Treeper who outlined exactly how to attack the media when they try to claim there was not election fraud in 2020 using Hunter’s laptop.
Listen to what Trump and Vance are now saying about corrupt government employees at the FBI lying about the laptop they had for a year…sound familiar? It should, I’ve written versions of that essay multiple times in the past 1-2 years.
2020 was a fraudulent election, and the “Russian disinformation” lie is a 100% proven example. Worse yet? It was executed by Federal Government employees.
The only thing they haven’t said, but really should, is that Bill Barr lied to President Trump because he either knew in 2020 that the FBI had the laptop, or he knew after and has NOT ONCE corrected the record. He claimed in Nov-Dec “no evidence” of fraud. That was, and remains, a lie.
Winning next week is the easy part. Dealing with the “Bill Barr’s” in government past and present is the hard part. Those people must NEVER be allowed to be affiliated with government for the rest of their lives, and many need to go to prison.
Get ready. The hard part is coming. Let’s be the weapon our friends use to destroy the enemies of everything great and good in this country.
Let’s be hammer.
“Speaking only for myself, our CTH community doesn’t need, nor want, the influence that comes from billionaire funding. ”
Yeah, Glenn gruenwald could tell you all about how that story ends.
If Sundance was put in charge I’d take this seriously. Otherwise it’d be another can of worms to unravel.
I’ve said many times. SD should be a guy high up on the list to fill any important positions.
Id trust him to do any job. 100 per cent.
President included, if it came to that.
I dont know why PDJT’s people would ever want to keep SD away from the ear of PDJT. I really, really wish, SD would answer me that riddle. It bothered me when he said that they do exactly that, and it still bothers me now.
WHY?
Thanks, Sundance,
I watched the Trump and Vance individual interviews by Joe Rogan. They are both real men, truthful and committed to the mission of righting this ship of the U.S.A. (nation, country purpose, governance integrity with full justice). Your post on advising that each of us do what we can; and, just forget about not being able to do what we cannot—is very much appreciated—turns down the angst. God bless you, again and again.
Bravo, good sir.
Perhaps someone should send Mr. Vance a link to this website.
Hopeful JDV is reading here daily. I think he’s smart enough to do it and keep it under wraps by saying “France” instead of some other places known to wolverines.
Elon or Vance COULD send a donation … you know, like the rest of us
Email them the link, along with a latest article
Totally agree. This is why there are so few truly honest sources. This is why I love and respect Sundance.
We are blessed by God to have found CTH.
We all do our own small part to share the knowledge we learn here.
Sounds like ole JD has an agenda… just sayin…
it would make our day here at CTH if they would select and fund SD to complete this mission.
Just spoke with a friend from Ohio. They said that many politicians find JD self-serving. And he is not liked in Ohio. Has anyone here heard the same?