Requiring women to register for Selective Service (ie, the draft) really is a part of the 2025 National Defense Reauthorization Act that has been assembled in the Senate. [SOURCE pdf, Go to Page 3]
When I first heard of this, I thought it was a stupid spoof. It is not. It is real.
Keep in mind, in order for this to be in the print version of the Senate bill, the Senate Armed Services Committee had to vote to approve it. Repeat that sentence if needed. The Senate Armed Service Committee, meaning every member on that committee, had to support the change to make women register for the draft.
Look at the GOP MEMBERS OF THE SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE HERE – Rob Wicker (Mississippi), Deb Fischer (Nebraska), Tom Cotton (Arkansas), Mike Rounds (South Dakota), Jodi Ernst (Iowa), Dan Sullivan (Alaska), Kevin Cramer (North Dakota), Rick Scott (Florida), Tommy Tuberville (Alabama), Markwayne Mullin (Oklahoma), Ted Budd (North Carolina) and Eric Schmitt (Missouri) are all members of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
How many of these idiots are going to try and run away from their construct by saying they didn’t know this was in there?
No serious country in the world would force women into war.


Dear God,
Please intervene.
Amen
✝️
Question:
What is are “women ” ?
This bill is divisive and not gender inclusive. Why don’t they ask for “persons” to join in the service!
/s
I suppose by asking specifically for “women” they might think to easily send women into the trenches that still identity as “women”.
An idea is to say “Children and grandchildren of (un)elected bureaucrats of the administrative state are required to enlist for selective service” If you start a war, lead by example.
Agree –national service for everyone — will be a good thing.
So say Socialists everywhere.
Doesn’t Israel require Every man and woman to be in their military for at least 2 years?
…yes…
Yes, and when Hamas dragged their bloodied, broken bodies back to the tunnels of Gaza, their men must have been so proud.
.
Don’t for a moment think they do similar jobs.
.
They will, under this insane administration. Don’t think for a moment they won’t.
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They don’t in Israel. They won’t here because they physically can’t.
Apparently you’ve never seen women in field exercises crying from their shin splints, getting UTIs, being unable to scale a wall or carry a male soldier off the field, unable to spend hours with crew in a jeep (see Iraq invasion) because they need privacy to take a sht…
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… and … biologically – regardless of what the idiot on the Supreme Court says … the female monthly cycle GUARANTEES the enemy only needs bloodhounds to find “enemy” locations.
88% of jobs are.
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Glorified cops defending the borders of a tiny country plus support roles?
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Yes, they are a small nation and must deal with terrorists coming into the country.
Israel also provides all of their citizens with free healthcare and free college. Funny how nobody seems interested in copying that part of Israeli policy.
Free healthcare or free poison death shots? Free college or free indoctrination? It’s all in how you look at it.
The point is that young Israelis at least get -something- for their two years of mandatory service and have a bright future to look forward. What does America have to offer our youth in exchange for mandatory service? Unaffordable healthcare, unaffordable education, illegals to compete with for jobs and resources, and debt. Why should American youth have to give up two years of their lives for this system designed to force them into debt?
American youth should *not* give up one minute of their lives for this kind of a system. You already answered your own question.
You speak of poison death shots and indoctrination centers as though they are rewards? National healthcare in Israel was responsible for mandating poison death shots. So was ENEmedia propaganda.
How are these then a ‘reward’ for mandatory military service? I think all three are designed to depopulate the planet.
Funded in part by the massive foreign aid we provide them EVERY year.
More or less than Ukraine … or all the other UN leech-countries WeThePeople fund ??!!!
Democrats give both of them to illegal aliens.
Yes but Israel only has a population of less than 10 million.
The size and population of New Jersey.
So! Many smaller countries don’t force their women into conscription.
Mandatory military training/service is completely different than mandatory deployment for war.
Socialism had nothing to do with mandatory national service.
Dozens and dozens of countries have mandatory national service and are not even close to being socialists.
Well, I actually can’t think of a single country where your parameters apply, let alone “dozens and dozens.”
Maybe he’s thinking of the Communists?
Israel for one. A quick google search will give you a list of the dozens and dozens.
Free education, free Healthcare, assistance with settlements, egalitarian society, but they’re not socialistic?
Got it.
Examples?
I think you forgot your sarcasm tag.
That’s called slavery.
So Israel has made slaves of their people?
All the Western nations have made slaves of their people. What do you call being forced to obey all manner of commands at the whims of unelected bureaucrats and having to turn a portion of your labor every year over to faceless masters who use it as they will.
Changing the latter from money to actual physical labor doesn’t negate the fact that the Elites have been treating us as slave labor for a long time.
True in the sense you speak of. Not in the context that I was replying to.
Typical AI chat bot answer. Sundance says AI is now programmed to consider “context?” Hmm
To what “context” was that specific reply directed, exactly? And how perzactly did that “context” differ from the context of the next reply?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
Chatbot?
Woman, I’ve been posting here for many years. Careful who you call a chat bot.
In fact it looks like you and a few others are working together to discredit long time posters here.
Why won’t you simply answer my “context” question instead of deflecting? In your answer (to another poster) you said the context was different. How so? And how does that context change your answer, as you implied?
Depends on who is in charge of said national service program. The indoctrination in this country is out of control.
Let us all know when you’re called up. Ukraine awaits.
Next they will replace Uncle Sam with Uncle Zelensky needs you
Uncle George may starve without fresh Bidens dropping out of the sky: yum yum eat ‘em up.. says our communisr-in-chief.
For India maybe
Also include the children of elected politicians who support war.
Include them on the front lines.
And Rick Scott wants to be Senate “Leader”?? Just screwed himself.
This is simply another way for these monsters to assist in the effort by the elites to depopulate. Nothing short of heinous. I agree with Patience: God, please stop this madness.
Who are you asking??? All normal human beings know the answer to your question. Please Don’t promulgate the Lefty Loons agenda with such a question.
you joking?
Isn’t there a SCOTUS member who couldn’t (did not) answer that question?
Are there not “transgender” this and that in our military?
-“promulgate” ??????
You may have missed the sarcasm.
Thank you for giving me the benefit of the doubt, Fionnagh.
However, I am sick and tired of even giving the fascists a chuckle over their insane ideologies.
No chuckle intended.
These rat ba$turds want to call mothers “birthing person”.
Haven’t you seen some of our top military men dressed s and identifying as women.
-Of course you have.
Thar Act is totally contrary to the rainbow flag and diversity training our military is touting.
How dare it include the word “women”!!!!
Just a few different plumbing locations, but not different from a man. So there is no reason today that ALL persons need to sign up.
As a once 18 year old female,
– no thank you!
We are talking of 18 yo children. there is a huge difference between boys and girls, men and women. Just observe very young boys – they instinctually make swords and guns in their play. Girls do like dolls and dress up and playing house. This is a sad day for our country to throw our women to the slaughter since they are not constitutionally fit for fighting.
Women can’t beat trannies at a sporting event yet we expect them to win on a battlefield. Brilliant.
Neither men nor women should be drafted. In any case, the only war worth fighting happens to be the one against the enemy under the wire.
What we need to defend our Constitutional Republic is testosterone and state militias.
I grew up with 4 brothers, playing war was some of the greatest fun I had growing up and I could keep up with the greatest of bottle rocket fights!
Try that with 50-100 lbs of equipment having to move 2-4 mile per hour on foot, actual fighting in combat for days or weeks on end.
Let us know who fun it is and if you could keep up
Or trying to carry your wounded 200lb fellow soldier off the field.
You don’t have a clue as to what you’re talking about.
I served and served with women. They tried and tried real hard.
They’re OK for support some roles.
They could not keep up with the men physically and drove down the combat effectiveness of units.
Women are very different than men.
I looked it up and this is how they define it:
https://www.sss.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/WhoMustRegisterChart_1-16-24-1.pdf
They are going to put the illegal aliens with the citizens in this draft. – see below for who qualifies:
Immigrants** Permanent resident immigrants (USCIS Form I-551) Yes
Refugee, parolee, and asylee immigrants Yes
Undocumented immigrants Yes
Dual national U.S. citizens Yes
Lawful non-immigrants on current non-immigrant visas No
Seasonal agricultural workers (H-2A Visa) No No
. A complete list of acceptable documentation for exemption may be found at https://www.sss.gov/Portals/0/PDFs/DocumentationList.pdf.
Because putting Barbarians in the armed forces worked out so well for Rome.
hell and they paid them to become enemy combatants to the empire.
I knew they would include illegals. Our military will be used against us, that’s the feeling I am getting. It’s an ominous, sick feeling like the night Barack Obama was elected.
Exactly! Since the Supreme Court has just appointed a new justice who cannot define what or who a woman is how are the ordinary plebes supposed to know?
Thank you, Joe.
You’re welcome!😉
Nobody should answer these draft notices. If anyone later inquires simply explain you ‘identify’ as a puggie today and seek the nearest litter box. If they start to draft muggles then identify as something else.
Change the goal posts like they do. Don’t forget to insist that they use your correct pronoun under penalty of law.
Let’s have that tranny swimmer drafted.
Don’t a body have to be a cree-dentailed biologist to dare ask such a thing?
Indeed
Yet, Xs and Ys and DNA
are no longer science.
Born this way is how and what one feels, likes, dislikes and identifies as or with
-and it’s ever-changing; like socks.
Go figure 🤪
Markwayne Mullins, senator from Oklahoma, is trash. What an embarrassment to Oklahoma, the state where I lived for almost all of my life.
From Oklahoma. The worm Mullins needs his kid drafted. Same with greasy Lankford
Michael Byrd who murdered Ashli Babit – Mullin thinks he’s a hero.
I fester over that. Comes to mind every time his name comes up.
The whole problem is that TPTB who are promoting this resurrecting of the draft do NOT have any sons or daughters who this will effect.
THEY want YOUR sons and daughters to fight while they all sit in their chambers and rack in the $$$$$ the wars provide to them.
I looked up the law: the exempt is ALL people wo make decisions to get us in the war!
We MUST oppose this.
Plus they send our fighting forces and young in Ukraine so we can be invaded here.
And so our white children’s organs can be harvested.
We haven’t been a serious country for a very long time.
More on here thought I was being paranoid or hysterical when I warned, weeks ago, that they were going to reinstitute the draft and complete their White Genocide agenda.
Please, people, realize how dire our situation is. Denial only makes things worse.
Wars should be required to take out the lawmakers first. After all there would not be wars without them.
They’re going to send our kids into that hellhole….makes me sick to think about.
Yes, tho I’ve only lived here about 15yrs, I quickly realized both senators are useless rinos.
They have to do this to stop men from claiming to be women to dodge the draft. They created this stupid gender war… but don’t actually believe it, and more importantly, don’t want it to disrupt their actual wars…
Like americans should be allowing their white sons to be drafted and killed for this shithole anti-white, genocidal country? For that matter, only the colors of people benefitting from these money-laundering schemas should be drafted. And every draft aged child of Congresscritters who vote for it.
I agree completely! Those who declare bankers wars and fund them should be dragged into the nearest Coliseum to fight it out with each-other. May the best swamp creature win.
It was requested 2 years ago through the high school for my daughter to graduate in IL.
With Pritzker, Duckworth and Durbin, what could go wrong?
That is telling
Republicans, worthless to the end. And I’m not talking about the politicians. I’m talking about the voters.
You’re in the wrong place. Try Huffington Post or MSDNC.
Every Derp has its Doom.
Bertie is correct. No republicans. Only maga candidates. That’s it.
Imagine still believing that our elections aren’t rigged.
Well all those woke pro Palestinians can serve
In Israel, every man and woman serves in their military two years. Like it or not, our American children must learn how to fight. I say this being a mother of an 18 yo girl.
My daughter loves our country, knows our Constitution, and honors our Forefathers.
When the time comes for God to have His Way with her… I know that she will stand in righteousness at all costs to her person.
May it be ever so more important to realize to our masses the importance of voting and political participation. Voting has consequences. Failure to participate has consequences.
For those who in the future, and who have in the past, been sacrificed to evil… may God’s Mercy be on them and their memories eternal. Voices calling out from under the altar, the voice of the martyrs, “When Lord, When?”
“We regret that we have but one life to give for our country. ”
I leave my precious daughter at the foot of the Cross and I pray in Corie ten Booms words… “Lord, help me to hold loosely, because it hurts when You pry them from my hands.”
Woo,
If a female wants to join the military, that is her business.. her choice.
Mandatory drafting girls for combat is nuts!
-Nuts!
Sadly, have you seen the boys, Patience?
They whine and cry like girls and want to BE girls. Where are all the MEN OF COURAGE?
Mandatory Draft is nuts, period. For men and women. I want a military built by the willing, just like in God’s Service. We are followers of Christ because we are willing. Free will.
A conscripted man or woman can not be trusted on the field of battle to not turn coat and flee.
This is nuts!
I want a military of the free.
Mandatory draft, mandatory anything, takes freedom away and destroys the cornerstone of the country.
We are supposed to be citizens, not serfs.
Israel does not send women into combat and, Israel gets americans to finance and die in their endless battles against the world. They are ethno-supremacists and need to learn to carry themselves.
It’s not surprising in the least that the pro-Israel crowd wants our American daughters to go die in their wars.
Exactly!👏👏👏
Mandatory drafting of females for
combat is …beyond crazy-it is total
insanity.
The females who want to join-
I have no problem with that.
It must be their choice, but the
training standards should not
be lowered…just for them.
I disagree with women being in combat arms roles.
Fathers should be teaching their daughters how to fight, NOT the government.
Agreed wholeheartedly…
🎯 🎯 🎯
And if parents really care
about the safety of their children
both male and female….
They will insist that their children
be taught self defense.
That’s their business, not ours. We have two oceans on our sides. We have plenty of women who volunteer and do not need a draft.
The “two oceans on our sides”
no longer really applies in these
times………
😉 🫤 🫤 Our open border is proof
of that🤷♀️💁
I would NOT condone any son or daughter of mine choosing to enlist in the armed forces under this woke and depraved Regime.
I think you have hit the target. I wanted to go into the service in high school, but my Dad would not have it
Rebecca, on this Father’s Day, thank your dad for having the wisdom to discourage youthful foolishness. He could only block you from joining if you needed a signature. So he effectively persuaded you from doing so.
Everything Israel does is not always right.
It passed the committee 22 to 3. I cannot find anything that lists the three who voted against it.
Maybe it will turn a lot the young women to vote for Trump
Indeed.
I suspect we can soon expect this in speeches if it is not promptly nuked.
The law of unintended consequences would be good in this situation.
And (maybe a long-shot thought) women will smarten up and appreciate the role of really being a woman, rather than a wanna-be man. Men and women were created to complement each other. Not become each other.
Outrageous. In the interest of war-profiteering and muck-raking all over the World, young Americans are going to be tapped to die for Foreign Countries.
How about all the children and grandchildren of Congress and the Administration step up first to fight in Ukraine and the Middle East.
👍💯
I was told many years ago that Israel’s armed services always had women required to serve as well as the men.
However, we are not Israel. IMO, there should be NO resurrection of the draft. Neither for men nor for women. Especially while this radical regime is in place.
Yes, Rita. Absolutely this ^^^
It won’t be Israelis fighting in Iran…
I agree, there should not be a draft of men and women.
Ukrainian President Zelenskyy must need more cannon fodder. After all if American politicians insanely fund the war against Russia, they would have no hesitation sending Americans into war. We are sending advanced weapon systems to Ukraine. Who do suppose will train the Ukrainians to use these weapons? American specialists and advisors that who. Stop the madness.
So when assigning priority numbers for the draft, I suggest ALL MEMBER’S of Congress’ and the entire administration’s immediate family (children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, nieces/nephews, great-nieces/great-nephews) aged 18-35 should be drafted before ANY others and be sent to the front lines of any war zone before any other Americans. Also, any illegal or children of illegals in that 18-35 age range shall be in the second wave sent to the front lines.
you got it well covered….
It would be hysterical if President Trump makes this a campaign issue that ends up moving the needle with draftable Liberal woman who don’t want to go to actual “war”.
That will depend entirely on whether their desire to kill their babies outweighs their desire not to be killed themselves.
😝😝😝😝
Fill the fighting force with trannies; they’d be able to register as both/they/them…
Good heavens!
Most 18 year olds in the cities cannot boil water. The country gals can shoot deer and vermin, but in the cities???
They would be like the kids in the fight of Helm’s Deep in the LOR.
What will the feminist, liberal “women can do anything men can do”crowd say now?
The top tier conspirators will herald it and promote it, as their true interest is utter destruction of the society.
The dupes might start catching on though.
My pronouns are (___)?
My body my choice?
🤔
My body my choice my M16 your face back off!
Hah haha!
😉 😉
God created man and woman.
Samuel Colt made them equal.
That being said…..
The only times I participated in
Range that rules were broken,
or the many times that a loaded weapon
was carelessly being handled…
pointing it at me…or others..
Was done by men🤬🤬🤬
Just personal experience 🤷♀️💁🤷♀️
They will say “NO!”. After all, only icky men are supposed to make sacrifices for the country. They [feminist, liberal women] are too important to risk in defending the country [or oppressing the country depending on what the military is ordered to do].
Subotai Bahadur
Nice to see you back.
Well, haven’t we seen what those rabid women are doing? Samantha Power. Victoria Neuland. Hillary Clinton. Kamala Harris. and the myriads and myriads of rabid women out there, demasculating our men?
There is a reason God didn’t put women as the head of a man in 1 Timothy for it was the woman in the original fall.
Samantha, Victoria, Hillary et al would not be subjected to the “draft.” Neither would their offspring. The elites believe only the run-of-the -mill citizens need to fight their wars.
But their grandchildren would be subjected to the draft..
Just like they and their families are subjected to justice and poison death shots and follow all the laws of the land?
You’re right, they’re the witches who sacrifice them.
Well, this could have the unintended consequence of boosting the birth rate! Young women will be getting pregnant to avoid the draft.
As if they would honor that not-yet-proven-human life as a rationale to spare the life of a young woman.
It would be the first step to mandatory abortions and mandatory contraception.
Wow. You are one hard hitter! Bravo!
👊
If it were to pass (doubtful) there just might be a lotta trans who change their identity to cat.
🤭
“Furries” unite! Sad, that this is so TRUE
We don’t need a draft right now.
We need a country worth fighting for.
Most animals don’t use the female to fight battles. The reason? Preservation of the species!
Excellent post, Humphrey!!!
Most animals don’t take mRNA gene-editing poison death shots for the same reason: Preservation of the species.
Generally I agree. But I have yet to see a better fighter than a mama bear.
Fair enough. Tired of whiny women making demands for strict “equality” but not ever stepping up to the plate.
No one now dares define a woman as anything other than a few differently placed plumbing parts. This is what true equality looks like, so STFU ladies. It will be good for you.
Wow you are a nasty piece of work.
Hah hahahaha 😹
He does have point. Very crass but it is a good point.
“No serious country in the world would force women into war.”
This is not a message that people want to hear. We not only do not live in a serious country, we don’t live in a real country at all.
The ugly truth is that America is dead and its corpse has been mutilated into a corrupt imperial open-borders crony-cartel corporate trade zone masquerading as a country. The natural process of our melding into a real country was short circuited by the the 1965 Hart-Cellars Act and the capture and subversion of the institutions of cultural product manufacture by deeply hostile foreigners. We are a conquered people living in a land that someone else claims, and they want us dead and replaced.
By all means we should look at the past to identify where our ancestors made mistakes that led us here, but primarily we need to be focusing on the future, building institutions for eventual separation from communists, globalists, lunatics, parasites, and the genocidal anti-whites. The overwhelming majority of us just want to be left alone, but that isn’t going to happen. We are all either going to be internal refugees soon, or welcoming into still-American areas other Americans who are. If you are lucky enough to live in an American area, count your blessings. They won’t last without a lot of cooperative effort.
Benjamin Franklin (iirc) “Those who do not hang together, will hang separately.”
I was in the military and I’m a woman I think all women should have to serve I mean they want everything to be equal and demand equal outcomes I think they should get a taste of this
Not all women demand such things.
Why should the flower of our youth and the hope of future generations be so wantonly taught such cruel lessons?
🎯 🎯
Women don’t belong in the military. It’s a joke that we allow them to volunteer as it is.
No, there should always be choice.
If the standards are not lowered just
for them, and they meet the requirements,
and want to join…Their choice.
Some women can be total bada***s.
The standards have to be lowered. There’s no other way. If the strongest women athletes can’t win one sporting event against some random tranny, how can we expect women to win against men on the battlefield?
There are many fields in the military that are not combat positions and are totally acceptable for women. I am however, against the draft for both males and females.
Proud USAF (Ret) female.
All should be volunteers. I agree. And don’t neglect the state militias. If we had them now, we wouldn’t be going through this tyranny.
Were you drafted?
And experiencing the military
as a woman….
You know there are women who
you would not want to be in a
foxhole with if the SHTF.
Yeah, some men too. But the number
of women is definitely higher.
The thought of women being drafted
and put in a foxhole…against their will
…unrealistic.
We have psychopaths running our
government- to even suggest such
a thing.
Psychotic sociopaths.
I earnestly thank you for serving our country and for the protection of my family. But NONE of our children should be forced into the military to become cannon fodder for the elites who demand continued war so their pockets are filled.
That said, I agree with another poster on this thread who said FATHERS should teach their daughters how to defend themselves, not the government.
Politicians should leave the women alone. They don’t need to be drafted. Maybe only politicians should be drafted, along with the dudes who pretend to be chicks.
Make it impossible for men to join with insane DEI policies, experience recruiting shortages, and require women to regster for the draft to make up the shortfall.
Brilliant.
Honestly, the Selective Service is anchronistic window dressing. In a modern war scenario, the fighting will be over long before we can weed through unsuitable registrants and give them the bare minimum of training to stay alive on the battlefield. What the SS could do is generate enough cannon fodder to feed another Iraq or Afghanistan war of occupation. Maybe that’s the point.
In any case, women don’t belong in combat, IMHO.
I’m very disappointed in Ted Budd. He will hear from me.
I just slammed an email out to him too!!
Good luck with that.
Me too. Hopefully, he’s in the three that voted against it.
“No serious country in the world would force women into war.”
Was going to say, well, Ukraine does — except Ukraine is more of a vassal state than a country.
Indeed.
Our vassal state, and its depravities presage our own.
The smart Ukrainians (including the fighting aged men) left Ukraine during the first couple of weeks of the war.
Yeah, but they’re being hunted down now, to be returned against their will to fight.
JMO.
Every incumbent is compromised……. everyone of them.
Everything they do, can be undone.
Focus, focus, focus your time and resources to win in November.
Nothing else matters.
Concentrate on the election of President Trump and his endorsements and clean up the local elections.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
There is no Derp State!
Said the Derp.
👻
Did you notice he said every incumbent is compromised?
By whom? The IC.
He finally slipped and admitted it!
Spooky!
Only a country at war would need to implement the draft for women. This is a subtle hint of what’s planned.
I know of one country that’s been at war since its founding, and yes, women serve in the military, mandatory for I think one year. Men have an obligation for two.
Even during WWII, women weren’t drafted in our country.
If the feds register and draft our young women, we can kiss our new babies and families good-bye.
Bad, bad idea.
Exactly. This is just a continuation of the depopulation agenda.
Why not “depopulate” DC to set an example? The rest of us will follow their lead *after* they take one for the team in the name of planet sustainability.
After you, Mitchy boy.. Don’t let the door hit ya cryin Chuck.. one more scoop of Hagen Das Nanzi, then OUT ya go!
Completely agree that no decent and honorable country would send women to war.
We haven’t been a decent and honorable country since women elected Bill Clinton. And it’s been all downhill from there.
Seems to me that the only cure for the madness is a good punch in the face. Way too many women force all this s&&t on us, but don’t shoulder the risk.
Yes, it’s lunacy. Lunacy needs to get shot at to break the fever. Personally, I’m looking forward to mocking women over this.
Which mockery would only further fuel the division, n’est-ce pas?
Nope. You mock it. “Hey ladies, this is the inevitable end of the lunacy you keep voting for. Now, drop and give me 20.”
If you’re not on social media mocking women for this, you’re doing politics wrong.
I mock the unrighteous, not the righteous, your net is too broad.
In Canada it was the election of Pierre Elliot Trudeau..
Cheers!
Didn’t Dominion algorithms “elect” all these fascists? I know it did here in the states.
Salud!
I have a much better idea.
How about decreasing the DOD’s personnel and budget by 50% in the areas that are not being used in protecting America from a massive land invasion (the biggest invasion the world has ever known).
There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes (homeland, borders) and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
– General Smedley Butler, USMC. General Butler was one of the few Americans to be twice awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor.
OK.
I’ll back your move on your constant bashing of our military and the Pentagon as soon as you promote “NO MORE MONEY NOR ANY AID TO ISRAEL & UKRAINE BOTH!!!!”
Well, what say you?
No reply will be deemed that your interests lie with one or both of those countries!!!!! And not AMERICA!
😎
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The demographic data traces the military’s recruiting struggles with the decline spanning the leadership of presidents from both major parties with vastly different public stances on military culture.
Critics have argued that the problem is tied to changes in military policy, including nonspecific claims that the military has become “woke.” But experts described broader issues with men becoming less engaged in American society and less likely to enroll and graduate from college, more likely to die by suicide or drug overdose, and slowly disappearing from the general workforce.
The sharp drop in the mid-2010s of men’s participation in the workforce, education and military service is part of what some experts call a national “crisis of masculinity” with complex causes.
“[This] goes way beyond military recruitment,” Ronald Levant, professor of psychology at the University of Akron and former president of the American Psychological Association, told Military.com. “It really has to do with social change. I think there is an amotivational syndrome that seems to permeate a lot of young men today. They’re just not motivated to do very much.”
The Army started missing recruiting goals in 2015, coming off the heels of some internal restructuring after the most intense years of the Afghanistan war during the so-called “Obama Surge.” That year also saw the rise of the #MeToo movement and former President Donald Trump’s successful presidential campaign — two significant cultural events in which gendered politics and grievances were a center of gravity.
Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin delivers the oath of enlistment to 85 new recruits
Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin delivers the oath of enlistment to 85 new recruits across the armed forces at the Military Entrance Processing Station at Fort Meade, Maryland, on July 5, 2023. (Jasmyne Ferber/U.S. Army)
For the Army’s recruiting woes, the decline is spread across America’s regions.
The Northeast saw the worst dip, losing 40% of male recruits between 2012 and 2022. That area, how Army data categorizes it, covers much of the East Coast from Virginia north through New England. The Midwest and West each saw a 39% drop.
The Southwest saw the smallest drop of 29%. That region covers Texas and north through Nebraska, as well as Arizona and New Mexico.
And finally, the South saw a 31% dip. While the southern recruiting pool has historically been among the most fruitful for the Army, those recruits make up half of all basic training injuries, far outpacing their general representation in the service. Some of that has been attributed to the obesity epidemic being especially prevalent in the South. Researchers have also attributed it to large swaths of the South having comparatively low household incomes and limited access to health care and healthy food.
The Army is juggling enormous missions across two hemispheres: bolstering NATO’s front lines amid Vladimir Putin’s warpath in Ukraine, and establishing a foothold in the Pacific to rein in China’s expansionist goals. It’s also deployed across Africa and the Middle East on legacy missions that are the remains of two decades of conflict against terrorist groups. Meanwhile at home, units are routinely sent out on prolonged training missions.
A smaller Army is away from home now more than it was during the peak of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That taxing pace of deployments and training is burning out the rank and file, which has been reflected in mental health issues and deaths by suicide in the force.
Meanwhile, undergraduate college enrollment started to dwindle from a high in 2011, plummeting in 2015, with male enrollment in undergraduate studies dropping at nearly twice the rate of women. Between then and 2021, the total undergraduate population of men dropped by 1 million students and women fell by 600,000, according to federal data.
Women are more likely to finish all levels of college, with men earning around 40% of bachelor’s and master’s degrees, according to data from the Department of Education — effectively a total reversal of the education gender gap from before the 1980s and which accelerated at the turn of the millenia.
Men’s falling engagement in major institutions has been referred to as the “male drift” by Richard Reeves, a non-resident senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and author of the landmark book “Of Boys and Men,” which chronicles the issue.
“It feels like it’s the women who are advancing, and the men to some extent retreating,” he said in an interview.
Reeves, who is also the founder of the American Institute for Boys and Men, said that two major trends are occurring at once, one positive and one negative: Women are starting to overcome systemic sexism, but there are also serious concerns about men and boys’ development and retreat from society.
“It’s not so much that they’re acting out or acting terribly or anti-socially and so on. … Like, violent crime, with the exception of a few blips, has gone down quite significantly,” he said. “But what you’re seeing among young men is not ‘acting out’, so much as ‘checking out.'”
Some conservatives have been regularly devaluing military service, often saying without evidence that the services have become “woke,” a shorthand to suggest acquiescence to progressive ideals. Most of those cultural grievances are being spurred as the services have become more welcoming to women, the LGBTQ community and other historically marginalized groups.
Nearly one-third of Gen Z adults in the U.S. identify as LGBTQ, almost twice that of Millennials, signaling that negative attitudes toward non-heteronormative sexuality are quickly evaporating with each generation.
Those culture war rallying cries, often used to gin up the Republican base, are similar to tactics wielded against higher education, and are moves that may be more effective with men — with some data suggesting men are skewing more conservative as women are increasingly becoming more liberal.
“The Biden Pentagon looking for the causes of the recruiting crisis is kind of like O.J. Simpson looking for the real killer,” Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said during a Fox News interview in 2022. “The way to turn it around is to focus on its core mission, not using the right pronouns or worrying about things like gender ideology. We want men and women to join the military to defend this country, not go to social justice training seminars.”
Since Biden took office, some conservatives have latched onto the idea the military has reduced combat training in favor cultural sensitivity training and turned that unfounded critique into a boogeyman. The trainings, which deal with equal opportunity or harassment, take only a couple of hours and are similar to those in civilian workplaces. They also predate the Biden administration.
U.S. Army Reserve Flight Medics with the 7-158th Aviation, seen in the visor’s reflection
U.S. Army Reserve Flight Medics with the 7-158th Aviation, seen in the visor’s reflection, demonstrate their duties aboard a UH-60 Black Hawk during the “Meet Your Army” recruiting event hosted by the U.S. Army Southern California Recruiting Battalion at Joint Forces Training Base Los Alamitos, in Los Alamitos, California, April 22, 2024. (Brandon Hernandez/U.S. Army Reserve)
Instead of cultural grievances, the recruiting issue appears to be more closely tied to qualifying for service, much of it inflamed by the ongoing obesity crisis and poor performance on the military’s academic entrance exams. In the civilian world, girls have been increasingly outperforming boys in grade school and score higher on college admissions tests. Childhood obesity also impacts boys at a higher rate than girls, with those health ailments, and lagging academic performance, even more prevalent among Americans belonging to racial minority groups.
In 2022, the Army started the Future Soldier Preparatory Course, for applicants to get in line with the service’s academic and physical standards. After a significant expansion, the Army can put 23,500 applicants into basic training annually who otherwise would not have been allowed to enlist — effectively setting the service up to recoup its entire recruiting deficit.
The applicants for those courses are more than 70% male, with recruits from racial minority groups being overrepresented, according to Army data. For example, Black applicants are the largest cohort, making up nearly 34% of the course’s students — with white recruits being 33% of attendees. Meanwhile, 24% of 2022 recruits for the Army as a whole were Black, and 44% of recruits were white.
It’s unclear whether the service is eyeing bringing more women into the force to make up for the significant drop in men. Defense officials have expressed confidence in hitting recruiting goals this year, much of that attributed to changes like establishing the Future Soldier Prep Course.
“There’s never certainty when it comes to recruiting,” Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said in response to a question from Military.com at a press event in May. “All [services] projected they’re going to meet their year-end goal, I feel really good about it.” He went on to say that meeting those goals ultimately hinges on precise marketing and talented recruiters.
The Army’s marketing rarely spotlights women in a significant way. A Military.com review of the service’s recent marketing campaigns found men were two-to-three times more represented, particularly in speaking roles in commercials.
Other trends are making it more difficult for the Army to find recruits. Typical sedentary activities, which are often isolating, have ballooned in recent years, including playing video games and viewing pornography, both activities that are enjoyed predominantly by men and, while not inherently destructive, can be abused.
The alarming trends for men’s economic role and health have also been weaponized in dark, misogynistic corners of the internet — sometimes referred to as the “manosphere,” which commonly overlaps with far-right communities.
Those communities lament that men have fallen from their traditional place in society and that there is no quarter for masculinity in modern western culture. That culture includes podcasts, influencers and brands that range from earnest male-oriented self help but more commonly involve anti-feminist and misogynist content. Some of it is very overtly connected to military culture, such as groups charging exorbitant amounts of money to attend so-called “man camps” that mimic Navy SEAL training.
“The reality is that military service is a major commitment that tests true strength — physical, mental, morals,” said Katherine Kuzminski, who studies the military and society at the Center for New American Security. “There is evidence of a trend toward signaling [a] counterfeit show of strength — commentaries lamenting a decline in American masculinity — rather than individuals risking a real test that comes from military service.”
The so-called crisis in masculinity is further complicated by conflicting events. Men are pulling out of the workforce, and traditional masculine roles are disappearing as gender norms are reassessed. But those men are not seeking military service — the last bastion of traditional and surface-level masculinity.
“You could argue quite strongly that the military could have a really important role to play in helping these young men,” Reeves said. “But you see fewer young men turning to the military or being able to join the military.”
Related: Army Sees Sharp Decline in White Recruits
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WTF???
It might be a good thing to have women drafted.
Many would definitely learn that life has value especially when it’s their own life on the line.
Right now there are far too many women that think nothing of murdering as many unborn children as they can.
It also might stop so much of this “ woke” nonsense that has started with women being sympathetic to and pushing woke ideologies.
It would also teach many of the ignorant women in society that want guns taken away from law abiding citizens that guns don’t kill people. They would learn that with having to learn how to shoot them and handle them.
And maybe just maybe if their life or their daughters life was on the line they would be more careful who they vote for.
This isn’t meant to demean women either.
But If it would cure our society of this invading woke cancer than I would be all for it.
There’s nothing “good” about being drafted for this corrupt and collapsing country that hates its own citizens.
Yes this corrupt and collapsing country is headed that way because of a huge majority of liberal and woke females.
We wouldn’t be in this situation of a failing nation if there was a national service to begin with.
And If it cured “wokeness” it would be a good thing.
Rigged elections, Presidential assassinations, and the Federal Reserve are why this country is corrupt and collapsing, NOT random women voters. Imagine still believing that elections are fair.
Imagine welcoming even more division in our society!
Imagine a society where people take voting far more serious and quit voting for warmongering politicians. This is a good thing, period.
I agree wholesale cheating on elections but please don’t deny the millions upon millions of women they vote for every woke ideology that comes along.
I think you need to check how a majority of “women” have been voting since the Clinton’s.
Paragraph 2 is an unprovable assertion.
Logical fallacies are so very useful for senseless spew.
All the commenters like this have lumped all women together and apparently see no harm in throwing feminine (not feminist) Christian young ladies into war — or at the very least into a sick & perverted military where mentally ill men can invade women’s spaces — to prove a stupid political point about ‘woke’?! My daughters are real people. Take a care!!
And those of you who worship Israel as the model for military service in the USA can go pound sand! Israel is not the US, no matter what AIPAC wants you and I to believe.
I truly don’t know what ‘conservative’ means to some people on this site…
Unfortunately, my Senator is on the $h#t list, so he gets the next earful. This is 100 percent hell no.
Grrr,
Mama Bear
Well Swatted, Mama Bear! Go git some!
No one is throwing anyone anywhere. I think you need to quit hyperventilating.
I’m sure your daughters are real people, everyone is real people.
They might be part of the real problem too.
And anyone making a comment about how Israel has national service doesn’t mean they “worship” Israel.
That’s a very snide and rude comment made out of ignorance.
No, but you keep using Israel’s policies to promote here knowing statistically that a sizable percentage of the population supports Israel in everything, including a subset that does so hysterically and blindly.
A great psyop campaign would be to convince that set blind supporters that a female draft was good and persuade them to go out and convince others to further the aims of the IC, a foreign nation, or both.
Exposed!!!!!
You sure are making a production of promoting women for the draft, and its obvious.
Is there a selective service requirement for women in Israel? How about Russia? Or China? Maybe North Korea? The only positive thing I see with this is, women in that age bracket vote. Will they vote for a warmonger or someone who believes in peace through strength…Also, what is the big deal with women fighting in war?
13 Countries With Mandatory Military Service for Both Men and Women – 24/7 Wall St.
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Most are in Africa…. 9 countries
North Korea
Israel
Sweden
Norway
Add China to that list. Mandatory conscription for all men and women for 2 years after high school. Weekend Warrior Service like our National Guard.
Israel pop. 9.5 mil, Sweden pop 10.5 mil, Norway pop. 5.5 mil – all very small population numbers compared to USA pop. 350 mil.
This is just more information gathering.
Mason3000: I agree. More merging of databases by the control freaks, not because it’s needed, but, because it’s feasible.
The establishment really do hate this country.
With the Democrat/Marxist Leadership in this country, we will be exactly like Ukraine. Ukraine has teams of “recruiters” pulling men off the streets, out of restaurants, out of hospitals, out of apartment buildings. Last week a van load of recruiters drove to the Romanian border and fled across. The Democrat/Marxists want to fight to the last Ukrainian but the Ukrainians themselves are not enamored with that strategy.
Library of Congress
https://maint.loc.gov/law/help/military-draft/israel.php#:~:text=Israeli%20law%20subjects%20all%20male,training%20in%20medicine%20or%20dentistry.
This bodes ill.
We know how WWI and WWII ravaged entire generations of men in Europe, and the cultural fallout continues to this day.
Losing near an entire generation of young men and women would destroy entire cultures with broken continuities. It would effectively sever the traditions and values of the past, leaving fewer that could pass them on in whole or in part.
If you lose a generation of women, you die out.
Old men can make babies, old women can’t. And 1 man can make a lot of babies where as women can have at best 1 or 2 every ten to 12 months.
People used to know that.
Key words, used to. Society is being turned upside down and inside out. People are being misled and led astray by the millions to their ends.
It is not without reason that I call the powers that be, a death cult.
Agree.
Common sense is not
so common anymore.
💁 🤷♀️
Common sense is a very scarce commodity in Washington DC, Gypsy!
we may as well face it. this is preparation for World war..
We are already in a war for Civilization itself.
The hot parts get all the attention but the entire edifice is under assault.
When did they finally figure out what a woman was?
Israeli law subjects all male and female Israeli citizens and residents to a military draft. Mandatory military service is generally 24 to 32 months, with this period varying depending on the recruit’s gender, age or professional training in medicine or dentistry.
Israel is a socialist country.
It is really not a “National Defense” Reauthorization.
It is more accurately a “Military Industrial Complex” Reauthorization
Last year the Canadian intelligence analyst Patrick Armstrong published this sound advice:
“LISTEN TO WHAT PUTIN’S SAYING”
I’m fond of quoting the Duke of Wellington on intelligence:
All the business of war, and indeed all the business of life, is to endeavour to find out what you don’t know by what you do; that’s what I called ‘guessing what was at the other side of the hill.’
“Find out what you don’t know by what you do“. It’s not easy, it’s not necessarily pleasant but it’s what you have to do in order to minimise your surprise when whatever it is actually comes over the hill at you.
Here’s former British Ambassador to Russia Laurie Bristow saying the same thing:
My advice to all young diplomats and analysts [is that] if you want to understand Mr Putin’s foreign policy, listen to what he’s saying. You won’t like it, but you need to understand it, you need to listen to it. The place to start is the Munich speech in 2007.
“Listen to what he says”. It’s quite easy to. Putin has said a lot and most of it appears on the Presidential website in English as well as the original Russian. Never read what the Western reporters say he says – they almost always distort it – read the original. I’m sure that both Wellington and Bristow would agree.
And that’s what intelligence is all about. Try and understand how the other guy sees things.
Every few years Putin comes out with a speech or memorandum which explains – past, presence and future – and argues for the position at large Russia is taking.
People who read these speeches will understand Russia. People who don’t won’t.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
Wow. The end of procreation is nigh
#MeToo
Be careful what you wish for soccer moms…Your pink-haired tatted and pierced jobless princess will have to do an M4 at 300 yards with iron sights and other fun things in the dirt.
This is apparently their version of replacing the Southern Men(TM) that once thought fighting for their country was a good and admirable thing. Not no mo. Good luck with that DEI going forward.
On a serious note, mandatory conscription works with males and females in countries like Finland and Russia. And, there are lots of videos out there with those female conscripts stripping down and parting up an AK or Valmet real damn fast. They just go in different directions than the main line warfighters for their obligatory time.
Fewer than a third of countries currently have a military draft; most exclude women
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2019/04/23/fewer-than-a-third-of-countries-currently-have-a-military-draft-most-exclude-women
Since what we identify as now is the standard, all it takes to avoid the draft is to identify as a dolphin. Like Mr. Broflovski in South Park. *No surgery required.
https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/124xbf/south-park-dolphinoplasty
I think the House version of the bill make registration automatic…for men ages 18-26. That was ‘slipped’ into the house bill.
War is coming. And so is the draft. All those woke kids at UNC…won’t be fleeing to Canada as they did in 66.
War mongers do
what war mongers do.
Create wars
paid for
by the
money , minds and bodies of others
$ick basturds
Actually, if they raise the age limit and require that all politicians are subject to the call, I’m all for it. I want to see Pelosi’s butt, Hillary, and every other Dem and Republican politician report for duty! And not alternative service as nurses! I mean put their butts in front of live guns! Except for AOC and her group, they don’t know the difference between fire, and friendly fire.