The number one question raised is how to unite the general population of normal Americans and find a common way to push back against the radicals who have taken control of government and the domestic power structures aligned with the public-private partnership.
There have been several discussions centered around the use of federalism; factually, there is a good argument to be made that tactical civics can have a strong impact on the overall dynamic of a detached, disinterested and yet weaponized system of government. However, the flaw within this process is thinking the power center operators care about what is happening at the boundaries of our defenses.
Factually, the state elected officials and those sent to DC are part of the same system. They are detached from us. Try to contact or use the process of “constituent services” and you will quickly discover how you are viewed as a simple annoyance to those who unilaterally decide how they will participate in ruling over you.
Not only does this UniParty assembly mean our applying electoral federalism (aka tactical civics) results in a slower march toward the same cliff, it also means we are comforted by a sense of something that ultimately provides little value.
We need actionable steps that can be taken.
Additionally, we already know if Donald Trump can take the MAGA fight back to Washington DC, the entire apparatus of government, and yes that includes your elected representatives, will fight to destroy him at every opportunity. So, how exactly do we: (a) support President Trump, (b) push back against the weaponized state, (c) confront our government abusers.
There are more of us than them, yet each of our efforts seems to face the full force of “them” against a divided sense of “us.” One of the ways we have discussed direct push back is a modern version of a workers solidarity movement. Essentially the creation of a system where targeted general work strikes can have an impact on the system that is targeting us.
It is one thing to discuss the Polish Solidarity Movement in esoteric terms of endearment. It is another thing entirely to think about the application of a labor strike process within the United States where 370 million people live. However, if you apply the concept of tactical civics simultaneously, you can make an argument the tactical civics are the shield (EU truckers), and the labor strike is the spear (EU farmers).
One of the advantages we have in the USA governmental structures is the “Republican Form of Government,” or the constitutional republic and the ability of states to determine their own interests.
Think about targeting now going in reverse, where WE THE PEOPLE now target the non-compliant system operators and/or politicians. A Senator or Congress person aligns against Trump’s interests, our interests, and instead of gnashing our teeth, we immediately begin a targeted work stoppage in/around the representative’s district. In this scenario we don’t need tens of millions to make an impact, only a few thousand can completely change the dynamic.
How does it work? How is it possible? How did the people of Poland pay their bills during the solidarity strikes? How do you organize that process so that everyone can participate, and yet no one individually needs to carry the risk of losing? These nuts-and-bolts questions are part of my research mission.
How effective would a Congressional District (CD-??) “sick-out” be? Perhaps timed for every Wednesday, beginning on the {fill_in_the_blank_day} and continuing until the representative understood that he/she alone was the cause of the economic trouble in their district. You see, the general labor strike doesn’t need to be scaled to the size of Poland circa 1980’s; instead with modern communication, it can target very specific places and create just as big an impact.
The dismantling of a weaponized government first begins with a set of political representatives who are willing to take apart the institutional tools that government uses to weaponize their power. As we saw with the hyped and yet failed Congressional Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Government, once the public appears to be satiated with false hope from yet another created assembly, the representative group does nothing.
The urgency of the committee silo might look entirely different if the trash was not getting picked up in the committee members’ districts. Or the lawns were not getting mowed, or the cooks stayed home, etc.
You never realize how strong you are until being strong is your only option.
I will have much more to share on this issue as we will likely have a lot of support from ordinary MAGA-minded people in a multitude of countries. The Dutch, German, Polish, Romanian, French, Spanish and Irish farmers/truck drivers are figuring out how effective it can be if they push back with strategic solidarity. We can learn a valuable lesson.
Whether Donald Trump wins the 2024 election or not, the same practical process will be needed. If Trump wins the election, it will be to provide support under the auspices of unavoidable pressure. We don’t wait for primary races; we trigger the financial consequences immediately.
More to follow, soon….
But it’s so delicious watching them try to choose which is less damaging to Biden
A. He’s braindead
B. He’s guilty of treason
The real news is is that it’s TIME according to THE GLOBALIST PLAN to remove Biden and put in another. That ‘ other ‘ will BLAME everything on Trump and Biden… it, this ENTIRE CHARADE is pre planned to occur just before the total collapse TO DISTRACT US
There is one thing everyone can do to cause great pain to those who want to control you and every aspect of your life. If tens of millions of Americans did this one thing, it would be a huge disruption to their plans for global domination. Doing it costs you nothing. In fact it will save you money. There is zero risk to you or your family. Doing it dramatically reduces the surveillance capabilities of our enemies, and simultaneously exacts a heavy financial toll on their big tech enablers.
GET RID OF YOUR “SMART” PHONE!
Do it!
Do it now!
If you think you have to have a mobile phone, buy a prepaid tack phone without wifi capability. Buy it with cash.
Get that brain numbing tracking device out of your pocket and hit them where it hurts them most…in the wallet!
You can thank me later.
OK, this hurts Apple, etc. but how does this hurt our government oppressors ?
Seriously?
How many hundreds of J-6 protestors have been imprisoned by our government oppressor because they used their cell phone data to flag and identify them?
How many many Trump supporters have had their cell phones seized, searched, and used as evidence in DC kangaroo courts?
What is the primary distribution mechanism for government sponsored propaganda today? Radio??
What companies have eagerly partnered with the federal government to provide data on US citizens that the same government can not (legally) gather for themselves?
How many billions of dollars of “campaign contributions” from big tech and cellular service providers to elected representatives start off as revenue generated by “clicks” on somebody’s “smart” phone.
If every one gets rid of their smart phones, we would knee-cap the entire system.
You’ll still have to deal with the facial-recognition surveillance cameras that are now installed on every friggin light pole in urban America.
Maybe we should keep those charming covid masks around ….
There is a great deal of wisdom in the idea that when you want to change your life, start with the easy things. It’s like pushing a snowball down the side of a mountain. Change picks up mass and velocity as it goes.
We will need help to completely unravel the surveillance state. We need no help at all to get rid of our “smart” phones.
Get smarter on how we use the smart phone. It is our biggest tool, if we can figure out how to use it to our benefit, circumventing the watchers. Throwing it away cuts off our connection and a major weapon of war.
everyone get rid of phone? Stupid way to surrender!
Nobody has yet “figured out how to use for our benefit” – what makes you think somebody is going to do that now? It is not “surrender” – it is strategic thinking. I believe the people who are addicted to this little machine will try to discredit the idea because they can’t bear the thought of giving it up. Those are the people who are “owned.” I know I will be attacked for saying this.
How is it strategic thinking when we cut off our communication? Landlines are not even an option for many any longer. People ARE using smart phones to outsmart the outsmarters. Everything is monitored everywhere. Self-silencing is not the answer. Learning to not be heard by the listeners is more in favor of success than going back to slower ways of communication that leaves the controllers with instant real-time communication. (Spying can go both ways, ya think?)
You do NOT need smart phones to communicate.
Get a DUMB phone that allows text and voice only. No apps. No GPS. Has a removable battery for when it needs to disappear.
Get a laptop. Connect from your house.
WD -40
..Maybe the left’s foot soldiers can be “convinced” to get rid of those 5G towers along with light cameras, using their food plant techniques.
2 wrenches, 10 minutes, bye bye tower, it really IS that easy.
Get one of those flesh toned, thin plastic masks, that “looks real”.
Paint with silver spray paint on the inside.
Wear with covid mask, baseball hat and hoodie.
The aluminum based silver paint preventsthem from using facial recignition WITH infrared, to I.D. you.
They make infrared reflective pain nowadays Dutch.
One can also get infrared opaque sunglasses so the eyes can’t be scanned.
People in London have shown various ways to deal with them IF you have them in your area (we don’t in mine).
It will certainly hamper their data collection…..how can we protect our computers?
Protect them from what?
Turn them off when not in use. Learn how to configure your firewall. Have a router with a firewall and learn how to configure it. Use a VPN. Boot from a USB stick with TAILS when browsing.
Yes!
The prison we in which find ourselves has been built piece by piece mostly since 2001– and we built the bulk of it around ourselves! Key to the whole thing is the God-forsaken “smart” phone. It’s not a coincidence that our social fabric began to unravel at warp speed at the same time they became available to the masses.
I’ve never had one and I haven’t missed out on a thing. (I recoiled in disgust when I first saw one. My intuition screamed “NO!”.) You can toss that tool of Satan in the garbage and still conduct your life and keep in touch with those who truly matter to you.
Free yourself, and help free the rest of us at the same time.
Unfortunately, we need the phones to communicate and a better way would be to learn to use them smarter to outsmart the usurpers. This movement to throw away the smart phone is self-isolating in the name of hurting the enemy but we have more to lose.
yes learn and do it quick. A kid who wants to burgluraize your house can do it with a cell phone. He can extend a camera to look in.. he can disable your wifi and and door bell.. he can create noises to divert the dogs and scare you… Better learn all about cell phones they are watching you in so many ways. If Trump loses many of you are Republicans and Christians. You have a bullseye on your head….
What about an old flip phone with no internet?
Better than a “smart phone”, but if it is listed in your name and you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time you will get caught in the net with all of the other fish.
And NEVER, EVER take your phone with you to a Trump rally.
One hundred million voters shouldn’t be ‘hiding’ from anybody. Stop acting like criminals who need to cower and hide.
We aren’t divided by political affiliation. All the DC politicians are compromised. Why else would the voting machine software install them? Why else would we all be in this predicament?
None of them helped President Trump when it would have been easy for them to do so. Not a one voted to recess for one day to permit our President to appoint his own cabinet, when only ONE of them needed to do so!
WE THE PEOPLE are not the criminals. We are fed up American citizens who choose to exercise our God-given rights codified under the US Constitution.
We are a hundred million strong.
Is Donald Trump in hiding? No! Are these DC goons in hiding? No! All the globalists prance around sneering and ordering us to eat bugs!
C’mon, people! Take off your masks and hold your heads up high. It’s time for us to make America great again.
How did you “communicate” before the smart phone?
Curious how those posting comments urging people to get rid of their smart phones, are posting those comments?
If its from a laptop, do you think THEY don’t know EXACTLY who and where you are?
If they want to, they will know that I am sitting in my house typing on my computer right now. They have no idea where I am when I leave here. They have no idea where I was earlier in the day. If say I happened to be at the Trump Rally in SC, they would have to work very hard to find that out. But you can bet they have the cell phone data for everyone there that brought there phones with them. Why make it easy for them?
Same way I do now.
You can communicate with anyone in the world from the comfort of your own home.
Sundance – Thank you for all that you do, so very appreciated. We have been keeping an eye on the protests across the pond with much interest and I like the smell coming from the Treehouse kitchen. I wish you safe and productive travels.
Tangent – I know some wouldn’t have the discipline to keep up with the money, but I’ve often wondered if we’d get anyone’s attention if we stopped withholding tax.
Absolutely brilliant plan. Meanwhile, seal the Border. If we step out of line, we’ll be replaced.
I’ve been calling for escalating general strikes since Covid: “Oh, you want to lock us down? Let’s see how long your tyranny lasts when YOUR family can’t get any food, medicine, or electricity.”
On a related subject, I just read where Trump has endorsed Tim Sheehy over Matt Rosendale. So far this cycle Trump has endorsed Barrasso, Wicker, Cramer, Fischer, Justice, Ricketts for US Senate. All of them are RINO scumbags who will undermine America First for six years. Remember when he endorsed McConnell? And McCarthy for Speaker? And Ronna for RNC? Maybe we should strike in front of Mar a Lago?
Same betrayal, different name. Screw them all.
I simply don’t get it. Surely Trump is smarter than this. And I don’t buy the “he is exposing people” argument. They have all been well and truly exposed and now even we the people know more than he does? This is a major problem.
Yes ….Trump still doesn’t get why they are shipping in illegals or not the big picture…He thinks its for the votes. Then he states … they are either stupid or hate this country. Sounds rather simplistic to me but maybe it is simplified for those who are still asleep.
Wouldn’t it be easier for all of us to support a Truckers strike with our $$$ so they don’t lose out? We had that opportunity but we need to be organized and leadership to meet with various Trucker groups. Target Big Blue cities ….and Rhino cities . Stop trucking in Key essentials.
Or maybe target DC
Holy moly…it is moving into that mode that is scary. I have noticed people are more “agitated” in general than even a couple of weeks ago. Like the hair on the their bodies is stiffing. Thank you, Sundance. What can an old (80), widow, in a fairly less impacted area do to help? I know it would be scary for youngsters with children to face a loss of income. They seem to worry about that…not being able to provide the family essentials.
Educate the young people in your sphere of influence about the truth.
Teach them life skills they will need to survive and rebuild this nation.
And most of all, PRAY.
GNANNY……Sundance actually was trying to explain how it could be in a targeted way so as to not hurt the individual.
There’s a lot of trolling going on here. Either that, or some posters think and behave like ten year olds.
“Let’s flood their phone banks with calls that the toilet is running..” or some such nonsense. No. We don’t want to annoy our neighbors and make their lives difficult. We want to UNITE with our neighbors so we can all make these DC MORONS lives difficult.
Capiche?
Our commonality “is” their demise. Make no mistake this is their greatest fear and with every day that passes their pretend world is breaking to pieces on the the worlds threshing floor with the chaff thrown in the fire.
It is time to become Lech Walesa’s and demand the restoration of our great land with it’s Constitution & Bill of Rights Founded with our Lord Jesus Christ the true King.
On April 18, 1775, a British soldier ordered him, John Hancock, and others to “disperse in the name of George the Sovereign King of England. Adams responded to him:
“We recognize no sovereign but God, and no king but Jesus!”In an October 13, 1789 address to the military, he said:
“We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”In a letter to Thomas Jefferson dated June 28, 1813, he said
“The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity”
Link up folks, in prayer and resolve and the demons will flee by His word.
But eventually, someone aimed a flintlock rifle at a British soldier and discharged a .58 caliber ball.
It’s all fun and games until someone pokes an eye out…
Amen.
Wow. That is just so awesome…so awesome…
Thanks.
We have to restart as a nation, reaffirm God and enforce our Constitution as written. Not “living document” junk that Owl Gore loved to repeat. It’s a binding contract from our Founders to the future.
Ultra-MAGA! …is the only way.
Two larger industries in TN are Amazon and the healthcare industry. Amazon has at least 10 facilities in TN and Nashville is known as a healthcare mecca. Nurse walk-outs, where they are already bare-bones now, and thousands of Amazon workers would send a message.
There’s got to be one in every thread, so today it’s me.
Poland had Lech Walesa as a figure head to rally around and to lead the Solidarity Movement. Our figure head is Donald Trump. President Trump’s tactics are different than Lech Walesa’s. Maybe if President Trump and all of us gets obviously cheated out of the 2024 election he will change his tactics to that of Lech Walesa, but I wont hold my breath.
What if we are once again backstabbed by the RNC, McConnell, the Republican Governors Association and they undermine us and let the dims win somewhat legitimately? We will be mad as heck yet it will not be the nation that did this to us, it will be our side of the uniparty that betrayed us.
To red pill a democrat, they will have to be mugged
To red pill a republican, they will have to be betrayed
Many on our side have already felt the betrayal of the GOPe and are red pilled. Some of the democrats are starting to feel mugged by their party’s policies and are getting red pilled. Let us hope it’s enough to put Trump back into the White House.
I am keeping my eyes open to a new Lech Walesa. The modern high tech spy apparatus and the heavy boot of the state will make it very difficult for one to rise.
The Republicans are not “our side”, except where they are useful to us-it’s rare to non-existent. They WILL betray us if their gray train is threatened.
No more donations to the Senators or House members ’til McConnell is gone. If we just pick off one at a time they will begin to feel our pain. I know…I know we are insignificant donors compared to the BIG DONORS but it might be a start.
It would help if the legislators would be required to wear suits with patches representing their donors…we could protest their offices and cease using their products.
Rix, I feel both mugged and betrayed.
In that vein, one powerful reason for thinking about a Solidarity for America movement as an adjunct to Make America Great Again is the very real prospect that the UniParty will steal the 2024 election cycle.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. I have not seen visible evidence of the kind of highly aggressive election integrity action needed to overcome the UniParty’s election fraud machine.
We have seen some level of activity in progress here and there, and we have heard PDJT claim that he will not allow the 2024 election to be stolen.
What we have not seen so far is a level of funding and coordination, backed by a sound legal strategy, which can proactively and successfully counter the UniParty’s election fraud machine when and where it counts; i.e., in the spring, the summer, and the early fall of 2024.
Time is short. History has proven that post election lawsuits will not overturn a stolen election. Unless this situation changes for the better, and soon, it will be Deja Vu all over again in November.
Watermarked paper ballots, 1 day of voting, supervised count for a start ….
State sovereignty over voting rights procedures is a dbl. edged sword.
Clayton Bigsby: “Watermarked paper ballots, 1 day of voting, supervised count for a start …. State sovereignty over voting rights procedures is a dbl. edged sword.”
What concerns me most is that there isn’t a reasonable certainty at this point that we can get from here to there in the time we have left before the November 2024 election is upon us.
Why don’t our DC legislators uphold Federal election laws? Voter rolls must be clean in order to count electors from that state……Trump started that but states wouldn’t cooperate….fine Blue states electors won’t count.
President Trump may be transitioning to a Lech. Watch his speech to Auto Union striking recently and then his connecting with Teamsters. The unions are separating from the communist worker’s union and evolving into patriotic nationalist solidarity. The impact of President Trump recognizing this is Ford dumped electric vehicles. https://rumble.com/v3l1xu1-live-president-trump-in-clinton-township-mi.html
There also is an impromptu interview after this speech that gives insight into President Trump’s inner Lech.
We all, including President Trump are Lech Walesa.
Or maybe make it easier if we go off the grid. Amazing how people pulled off a revolution in the past without a cell phone.
“…make it easier if we go off the grid.”
Easier??
The nation was organized and populated much differently in 1776 than today.
Across the nation there are sprawling suburban areas surrounding every city and town with large populations that are just about as dependent on municipal services as the “city folks.”
No doubt many Treepers live in those suburban areas. Most of us are NOT farmers, homesteaders, or “preppers” living in the woods or far away from population centers. I venture to guess that far fewer than 1% live without any electric, gas, police/sheriff, or nearby fire department / ambulance services. Older seniors need access to medical services and medications, even if only delivered via USPS.
Going off the grid is just not realistic for the vast majority of our population. Should the “grid” be disrupted for any length of time, a LOT of people will probably die as a result of lack of medications, lack of decent food, lack of water (if municipal water supplies and distribution systems are shut down), lack of heat (or A/C in hot regions), and a physical inability to farm/ garden and grow their own food..
Consider the possibility that this battle will not be resolved in 4 or 8 years, and as great as PDJT is, that it is the leaders of our movement that come after him, that will eventually lead our movement to a victory most of us won’t live to see.
Jerry Moran!
Well…that’s a peaceful possibility. I Highly doubt anyone’s gonna let that happen. Oh…Hello Federal agent reading my comment. Don’t you just feel so brave being a mercenary for tyranny? Enjoy that pension.
Yes, and logging our comments. If the enemy wins in 2024, questioning the election of 2020 will be criminalized retroactively and all posts, comments, likes, emails, texts, etc. will be inspected for violations.
I already assume I am on their list, hopefully somewhere near the top.
Even lurking without commenting, can put you on the list,…so WHAT?
Especially after hyperinflation and food shortages set in. Those are guaranteed if we do not veer off the road to Venezuela.
We should have stood with Jan 6ers and still can. Heck they prepared for us to do just that…only crickets from us and even more telling our DC representatives. We should have stood strong and backed PT using the NG to go into swing states while we audited the vote.
I think once your investigation is completed and the idea is ready to be implemented, a test run may be in order. The House reps are of course the most exposed and vulnerable to this but would love to see some heat put on widdle Winsey Grahamnesty. He is a frequent offender.
Brilliant!
it begins. I am onboard and available. I will try to be creative with some similar, small scale, non-violent, legal tactics. how about gluing ourselves to the pavement?! oh, never mind. just brainstorming. letting air out of public vehicle tires, crazy glue in parking meters, putting congress phones on continuous re-dial, ……brings me back to my pre-teen pranking days.
Now, I would just add this: “It isn’t just ‘Donald Trump,’ and it must survive and continue even without and beyond him.” This man is a flamboyant and very effective spokesman and leader, who clearly recognizes what must be done. But, we must recognize it also, and “take the lead” in our own spheres of influence. The power comes from the flock, not the shepherd. The change that we must achieve must now become lasting, resilient and permanent, no matter “who.”
In my opinion, our country got to where it is today through gross negligence on the part of leaders, wanton corruption among them all, but also through apathy on the part of voters and the general public. We allowed this to happen and therefore to get progressively worse for many decades. And, our “leaders” all noticed this.
An anti-drug campaign used the slogan, “Just Say ‘No!'” And it is very easy to forget how powerful that idea really is. These people really do derive their powers – “just” or otherwise – from the consent of the governed. For far too long, we simply gave them that assent because we weren’t really paying attention. Or maybe, we had just resigned ourselves to it.
Can’t wait to hear more.
Thank you, SD! This might be the first non-agressive, locally applicable idea I’ve encountered.
Spot on! I’m all in for this and it’s been badly needed for a long time. We kind of laughed when Obama announced he was just a Community Organizer; we are not laughing now. The Community was much larger than we realized then.
Just the recognition of a resistance forming will cause repercussions; you have to know that going in. We’re in for quite a wrestling match. Next, we should immediately begin doing whatever the Leftist do regularly with impunity. Such as appearing in front of targeted residences, noise and disruption doesn’t matter now. Just the appearance of resistance and organization will be unnerving to them. It’s something we’ve never done; until now.
Another thing I have to say, even though it catches in my throat to say it. Saul Alinsky’s book Rules For Radicals worked extremely well for Obama to gain power over us; it should work just as well for us now, because we have become powerless and will be considered “radical”. For example, Chicago is a horribly agitated city whereby what used to be the “favored” minority is now livid that the newly arriving “immigrants” are getting favored treatment, better welfare and much more attention. With an upcoming DNC convention, a bit of signage on TV could convince a lot of voters nation-wide to walk away from the DNC. Just ideas!
Which reminds me – one of the many levers available to us is to increase the heat and push on the fissures within THEIR power centers 😉
If you read the Bible, read Daniel chapter 2, we’re in the feet of iron and clay governance time period, right before Christ comes back. Maybe focus on your relationship with Jesus Christ. Make sure you’re ready for the rapture. Make sure you’re looking to His solutions and not the world’s solutions. Those solutions end with the antichrist and the mark of the beast.
And spread the Gospel, to take as many folks with us as we can!
Pray for your enemies. Deprive satan.
With Faith comes Action.
That’s why I didn’t participate in any of the illegally mandated attacks on our God given liberties during the scamdemic (no lockdown, no masks, no distancing, no following arrows, and definitely no jab)and made sure my protest was obvious. Don’t participate in the government sponsored effort to take you out. Just don’t. That also applies to now. Satan is our enemy and seeks to destroy us (US) through fascism.
Interesting. As I read this, John Galt is giving his speech in the third movie of Atlas Shrugged. Perhaps our John Galt moment is throwing off the government chains that have been put in place to destroy the energy independence of our country. This can happen when President Donald J. Trump is elected once more.
I’m in the process of closing our successful business 40 years plus. As I let vendors and people who are accustomed to my checks know my plans, I always start with Atlas Shrugged.
Godspeed! It’s painful to do! Respect for your long term efforts!
I should be retiring soon and enjoying the fruits of my labors. Instead, I will continue to work the grind.
Why? Because I figure we are headed for another Great Depression and I can no longer count on my life savings to be there when I need it.
I’ve written about the MAAAANY times. You have to target the Government Party’s centers of gravity:
– banks
– media
– government services/bureaucracy
– elections/legitimacy
And you have to do things that cannot be infiltrated or co-opted. A street protest can be infiltrated by Antifa and the media will destroy you.
Taking your money out of Bank of America and putting it into a Credit Union cannot. Redirect your mutual fund/401K towards paying off debt and buying physical assets. Find the lowest level of insurance you can tolerate and reduce your bill. HSAs are cheaper than regular insurance. If you have more money in savings, you can carry a higher deductible and lower the amount of insurance you need. We pay for all this extra crap for convenience. Over the last 30 years, I’ve paid tens of thousands of dollars in auto insurance…and have made FOUR claims totaling less than $15K. If I had that money in the bank, I could have bought 5 cars. Time to cut back.
Widespread massive cuts in streaming video services. Target Disney, Netflix, Prime, etc. On social media? Time to ditch Fakebook/Twitter. Time to disappear or force their hand.
Government services: this is a tough one. My view is that MAGA should stop cooperating with things like jury duty. Don’t break the law…show up…but gum up the works as much as possible. Wear a shirt to court that literally says “Courts are illegitimate” and if you get interviewed for a jury, use every opportunity to call out the system as communist and a joke. It’s important to resist by declaring “We know this is bullshit.” Make them throw MAGAs out and increase the burden on everyone else. Our job? To reduce the pool of jurors and make it harder for them at every level. If they counter by putting you on a jury anyway? Whatever the government wants, vote the opposite. 80% of the time, you’re helping our people.
Don’t pay your taxes until 4/15. Wait until the last minute. Call the IRS and clog up the phone lines. File (legal) extensions. File (legal) amended returns for minor changes. “Oops, I found a $150 charitable donation I forgot to claim.” Show up at the Social Security office and clog up the lines by asking for easy things you could do online. At the local level, if the County wants to turn developers loose, show up and fight it. Call, write, make every bureaucratic step a living hell.
On the elections front, we have a couple of choices. You can’t reform an illegitimate system by participating in it. But getting Trump back in office outweighs this. So we go with option B which means a biggest vote harvesting operation in world history.
And we have to continue to hammer away at the fundamental illegitimacy of “mail in voting”. I suggest we use the system against them by putting Statewide Election Day as Amendments nationwide. Give everyone a mandatory holiday – all businesses ordered closed – for voting and eliminate mail in voting. Free day off. Much harder to rig. Oh and require any company that provides voting machines to produce unredacted voting records and machines can be audited by any voter.
If you want to go to war with the Government Party, you have to hit them where they feel pain. Money, primarily. Then do things that challenge their legitimacy: in the courts, in the bureaucracy, in the elections.
None of these things can be infiltrated or co-opted. But they would do damage.
Agree;
Boycott everything, all the time
Malicious Compliance
Foot Drag
Give the Okie-Doki
With draw your consent to be governed at every opportunity
Refuse recreational consumption
Live not by lies
I’m frugal, money conscience and disgusted with so much of the modern day contrivances that I’m already doing much of what you are advocating. It does seems as though I’m an iconoclast on a deserted island. When I go out, I see the overwhelming majority of society emerged in todays technological conveniences. Whether they are driving, walking, shopping, eating, sitting on a toilet, riding a bike, walking a dog, hiking a mountain trail, running machinery, playing with their kids, etc. I have grown up to be an old curmudgeon.
Nah…we just ‘become our parents’?
We’re the same and perfectly ok with that.
The streaming services all started updating their ToS this year to add commercials to programming. The kids have especially noticed this. “Who consented to blaring ads at me at the gas pump?!” They’re starting to realize that our government/business “private-public partnership” means they team up to require us to participate whether we like it or not. When my kids are around I mock it relentlessly.
Active resistance can be countered. Passive resistance is an invisible toxin that kills the host.
Teach people passive resistance.
Re: jury duty-
look into jury nullification.
According to the principles of jury nullification, juries can judge not only the facts of a case, but also the law pertaining to the case.
Judge based on whose facts? A jurist should question the facts presented by the government, or NGO etc, not accept those facts as true. Prosecutors are measured by successful prosecutions; not lawful prosecutions.
Gumming up the works at the SS office is mostly ineffective. The rot there is from glomming other parasites onto the program.
Social security Disability and Dependents addons need to be stripped out. These are welfare social programs not an “annuity” component.
Independently SS needs to decrease the mandatory 15% of your paycheck back down to a voluntary 3.5%.
But the question becomes how do we effect these changes? Sand in the gears here misses the point.
All I’m saying is make the lines longer. Gum it up. Talk VEERRRYYY SLOOOWWLLLLY whenever interacting with the bureaucracy. Keep asking to speak to their superior. File complaints, because you can. Their system requires them to look into it. Big them down. Irritate. Be a pest.
Reminds me of the Constitutional Sheriff who had to GoFundMe his major medical. Luckily he was high profile and people helped but I really don’t want to see truly physically disabled people homeless, begging and dying in the streets. What is your alternative?
Hokkoda: Good suggestions, the underlying message of which is to fight back in any way that you can.
But to fight passively. Inaction is a powerful weapon because it goes to the core of their legitimacy while simultaneously robbing them of an attack vector.
Just driving the speed limit and leaving lots of room between you and the car in front will jam things up in many places.
All the government has to do is take us to a digital currency, kill the dollar. Either you’ll do what you’re told or you’ll be out of the Swift system, and everything else. You won’t be able to buy groceries or get anything done. Then what?
Prepare now to live as independently of the system as you can.
All of the preps in a grid down/EMP disaster should apply to a Mark of the Beast scenario, with one addition:
get right with God.
You know exactly what the stakes are. Not many people do.
I believe that to be the end game for control of We the People.
Prep. Repurpose. Spend little.
agree they cannot make money to spend against us if we spend little, prep , recycle or give it to others and make from scratch like the amish thank you sundance
Honestly I don’t get the spend little cause if we’re forced into 100% digital those old currency stashed at home will be useless. Plus those strips probably mean they can drive by your house and know you have it and that’s probably illegal or will be.
If my choice were mark of the beast or death, my choice most definitely would NOT be the beast!
The answer before it happens is to do what a number of southern states have done or are in the process of doing – banning CBDC and starting state level banks.
For your part, use cash in any and all local transactions, be it paying your utilities, phone, groceries, or gas. A system that already runs on digital money (debit cards, credit cards) can easily be switched to CBDCs. Ones that run on cash can’t be without much pain and time, if at all.
All of these critters, (Congresscritter, state house critter, state senarecritter, etc) publish social and speaking campaign etc schedules.
These schedules can’t be secret and must be accessible so their constituents can show up
Be a shame if food didn’t get delivered, of no bartender showed up, or the tables tablecloths and chairs weren’t delivrred.
Or a farmer with a truckload of pigpoop had an accident and dumped the load at the entrance if the venue.
Or power and water was turned off or all the toilets got plugged.
Sundance’s proposal is similar to the plot of Atlas Shrugged (that had working title “The Strike” while being written), only better. It is also better than states forming militias because our oligarchs don’t care whether you live or die, only about their gravy train.
Hit the oligarchs where their pocketbooks are and watch their political puppets move into action with alacrity. A Solidarity movement is just what we need.
Although the article is perhaps tongue-in-cheek, there are definitely some ideas here!
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/02/a_guide_to_conservative_passiveaggressive_resistance.html
Apologies! The links button is not working….of course.
Much to my delight, the link worked perfectly.
Especially loved the suggestion about using the litter box installed in your child’s classroom!
Give the Globalists exactly what they advocate, good and hard!
Oh, and the biggest 1 to 3 day punch in the nose to the entire American system is if everyone just stopped buying anything.
Sit on your wallets for a week.
Hate to hurt employees and independent grocers…
Lets start today and plan to make July 2024 “Independence Month”. Tell all of your friends. Make it a nation-wide effort to free ourselves from the architects of the digital matrix. Turn off your cell phone completely for 30 days. If you can’t do that (yet), just leave it at home. Don’t carry it with you anywhere. I promise you will feel better almost immediately.
We are “The Resistance” so lets resist, and let the world see how TPTB react to even a temporary loss of presumed control.
I bet most people with a job could turn theirs off at least 4 hours of the day, say from morning break until after lunch.
Get some work done and stick it to ’em.
Most people could leave it at home and not take it with them. How many thousands of years has humanity lived without cell phones?
If one feels the need to have one for emergency use, like car breakdowns – put it in the console or glove box of the car and LEAVE IT THERE.
Not buying certain products is also somewhat effective.
The problem is that some companies are very large and own many brands, so not buying one brand does not affect the company that much.
Even Bud Light is only one product of Anhauser-Busch.
We have to be diligent, thorough and determined in order to pull this off.
Also cohesive.
But that one brand was 35% of InBev revenue.
Choose carefully and you would be successful
I boycott woke brands like Bed Bath Beyond, Kellogg’s and Disney. I support MAGA businesses like My Pillow, Home Depot and Goya. Too many people look the other way until they are personally affected. And then it’s much too late.
Bad news about Home Depot – they are now using facial recognition in many of their stores.
I assume that is the reason NYC plans to retrofit all their buildings to make them “greener.” What they are really making in the name of redevelopment are ‘smart’ buildings with technology that tracks everything and everyone within them.
There is no leadership out there to get this done, and no will to give up our income for a doubtful outcome. We need to change the people who are in office, by voting them out in primaries, which is possible, or firing them in Washington. There are 4500 appointees who should be removed on Day 1 of his term, but I am afraid that he will be talked out of it again. What little I have seen of his attitudes toward firing people doesn’t show me that he has changed any. I’ll still vote for him, but I’m already looking for who will follow him in 4 years. So far, pickings are slim.
Even more immediate….if (pray not) Trump is out of the race for whatever reason ….who could step in….His son Eric would be my choice to carry out his policies. Never mind throwing in the constitution as to why not….even PT said we may have to work outside the constitution. We can not win by playing by the “rules” because they are not.
Tiffany Trump is a natural born citizen. After her father’s term is finished, she can pick up the Trump mantle in 2028 and appoint her siblings to key cabinet positions.
Who did he choose to manage the entire Trump conglomerate while he was distracted as President and even now?
Eric.
Eric and his wife are low key and not creating chaos.
Out of the media spotlight and not creating baggage.
Eric like his dad has major international Executive experience.
One of the major problems we face as a group is a lack of funding. Look at all the billionaires the Leftists have on speed dial who are willing to write checks at a moments notice to fund their operations. Who do we have???? Imagine what we could do if we had unlimited funding. The old saying goes “An army travels on it’s stomach” and that is very true. It can also be said that a “peaceful” but determined army of Patriots travels on it’s wallet.
Well, this part is easily solved.
If all sixty million Trump voters donated just one dollar, that would be sixty million dollars, in one day, for less than the price of a cup of coffee. And nobody would even miss just one dollar.
We can call it, the “Send George Washington back to work” campaign.
Could use GiveSendGo for such a campaign…..HOWEVER, and I say this part with emphasis….whoever is in control of these funds will have the thundering might of the US govt. on their tail.
Well, We the People do what the self proclaimed ‘elites’ do….create a legal foundation.
Then it needs to be in a Trust which the USGovt cant touch.
The truth is the Sundance plan is the only way, at this point, that we could possibly get the country back. The sad thing is it is no longer guaranteed to work because we are no longer a nation. We are a political and economic zone only. By the numbers our invasion has been and is currently far worse than that of Europe.
Nevertheless it is the only possible way. Our advantage would be that our side is the vastly more productive side. The elites would feel it if we could bring a massive strike about.
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Perfect summation from Sundance.
The key is targeted compliance.
First, if elected DJT must fulfill his campaign promises. No excuses. No walk-backs. No climb-downs. No my hands are tied bat guano.
Pen, paper, signature, law of the land, pretty cool: remember that phrase from the days of zero.
Second, the Governor Abbot and Lt. Governor Patrick model needs to be refined and expanded meaning more bus, airplane, van, car, truck, pony, donkey, rickshaw etc. transportation of illegals to Chicago, NY, Philly, DC, Maine etc. from Texas. In fairness though if both Abbott and Patrick hold the line and build more wall and add razor wire the illegal crossings will continue to drop in Texas. The point is that the virtue signalers need to be brought to heel outside border states. IOW, force them to make the pain trade between keeping up appearances with their own local pressure groups and illegals for welfare benefits, services etc.
Third, as noted by Sundance, a specific target needs isolation whether it be the illegal alien question, the spending question, the war question etc.
Basically, this is an Alinsky moment: target, freeze, annihilate. Tit for tat like they do us. Use their playbook against them.
Many more points, tactics. proposals could be made but one in particular needs mentioning. The low level apparatchiks cannot be let off the hook to slink back under their rock. These scum are complicit. Just following orders won’t work. We all know who they are in the media, think tanks, government offices, JUDGES, corporations, the CDC, NGO’s etc. NO mercy. Throw the book at them with felony charges for mere process misdemeanors as they did the good guys. Put them in jail, state they are a flight risk and throw away the key. Treasonous bxxxxards.
bill: On your second point, I would rather that illegals be bussed back to Mexico. Transporting illegals out of Texas to other states advances the leftists / globalists goal to infiltrate illegals into every state in the Union.
True, in a perfect world. Unquestionably. 100% correct.
That said, once the moron virtue signalers got a taste of the forbidden fruit they howled like a beaten dog. Without the transfer of the illegals Texas still would be fighting the invasion on her own, basically.
The dynamic changed once Texas turned every burrough, neighborhood, city and state into a border state.
The whining is glorious.
Sounds really good, and I hate to put a damper on action of any kind, but……
You know exactly what is going to happen to the leaders of this cause. We all know.
So with that said, who’s gonna step up to the plate?
There it is!!
There has never been a lack of those who would lead – the real question always has been and is, are there enough who have the balls and spine to be led and not fold at the first breeze.
Solidarity USA!
Stock up on essentials for yourself and water healthy snacks and a filled gas can for our truckers so they can block we can sustain.
We saw a sign of this when the original U.S. convoy stopped at their first fuel stop and a local fuel dealer donated 25,000 gallons of diesel. How many people outside of the convoy knew about it, IDK. I did because I followed it from Adelanto and did my patriot duty when they were in Oregon.
Bottom line is most folks, nearly all folks, don’t want to disrupt their lives for some nebulous political goal. They got a good taste of government disrupting their lives with the Covid op and then political persecution with the J6 op. Getting along to go along appears to be the dominant tone right now, save for a smattering of die-hard patriots on one side and paid professional protestors and Commie zealots on the other.
I’ll continue with my economic warfare operations and hopefully they won’t progress to kinetic operations. That’ll depend on the Communists.
Trucking in the U.S., overwhelmingly, is owned by corporations and independents live a tough existence even on the best of days. It took a lot of cash to keep the original convoy going and where there is money, there is mendacity and greed. We saw what happened there. Fact of life wherever humans breathe.
Those that actually fought the revolution were the minority……with the majority sitting on their hands.
This is true. And according to the Book of Revelation, eternal salvation will elude billions of people, as well.
The ignorance and apathy of the general populace is *not* our cross to bear. But the few who do have strength of character and the courage of our convictions at least will have an opportunity to enjoy our reward.
Find low hanging fruit. A team needs to win a couple of games to build momentum. You win a season a game at a time. We don’t need to win everything right now, but we do need to collectively target something and demonstrate potential. Impact the sports book.
Have you ever noticed the negative impact of simply driving the speed limit in an urban area? Some people’s reaction is as though you committed a violent crime in the street. On the other hand, that might not bother them so much.
Having come from California where speeding or being run over was a way of life for about a half-century, I take serious delight in driving the slow speed limits of Oregon on the two lane roads, particularly when I see CA plates in the rear view mirror 🙂
An ex-pat from Cali also. Long ago I used to drive over the Tejon Pass and drop into the San Joaquin everything slowed to a crawl. It must have been the Buck Owens on the radio. Not like that anymore.
Tom Russel Highway 46 (Where were you the day Merle Haggard Died)
“HIGHWAY 46” – TOM RUSSELL (LYRICS VIDEO) (youtube.com)
One argument for action prior to the election would be targeting those election officials and politicians that facilitate the steal. Demand the election safeguards much discussed here on CTH be reinstated/implemented. Call out their prior corruption that is well documented. Force change.
All I can say is that HOPE has returned this morning. Thank you Sundance.
I think that millions need to regularly show up at homes and workplaces of corrupt participants in the sedition demanding their ouster. Politicians, judges, doj, media, etc. They should feel it in their daily individual life. They have made it personal.
Stopping services might hurt us instead of them. They will be serviced first.
When the U.S. convoy was parked in Sacramento protesting, they paid a visit to a state legislator’s neighborhood. The legislator happened to be sponsoring a bill to decriminalize full term infanticide.
Here’s a two minute video of that day. I hadn’t watched that particular video but seeing it brought back sad memories of two people who died while in the convoy, the lady in the yellow ambulance and the man in the white medium duty truck RV. They died while doing what they believed in.
I have made the national strike comment on many conservative/MAGA websites. I assume no one read them. The only way to change thins is to strike nationally. Just think, not 100% participation but 20-25% would really hurt. The many suggestions here don’t have the strikers proclaim why they are striking. Everyone has to know and eventually many more will join.
Don’t worry about the bills. If there defaults by the millions, banks will force the government to make changes. There is not enough real money to bail out banks. China’s economy is sinking. Russia has real money but won’t help. If utility companies shut off power, they still won’t make money, not credit card companies, nor phone companies, insurance companies, retailers, Facebook ads. Cut off their funds, you can’t get blood out of a stone. Landlords evict, who will fill their properties and pay rent. Lenders foreclose, then what?
Prep yourself and it’s okay to be homeless. What you say?!!! Lower your pride and take advantage of the free stuff for homeless. You’ll be okay because you are not addicted to drugs/alcohol, and should be armed with weapons. There are a lot more upstanding, moral, sane, and good people than there are homeless. If are large population of tax paying, upstanding citizens joined the homeless ranks, the Governmentvilles (Hoovervilles) will be orderly and well regulated and will stop those using the streets as toilets. Latrines would be dug.
Let the money dry up and bring the government officials to their knees. Their donors losing income will help them make corrections. Be sure to communicate to elected officials and corporate boards why this is happening.
The only issue I see, is that people in the US are cowards. Afraid of what could happen to them and their families. The government knows this and gives just a little to let the sheeple be mollified. They foment fear through the media. Have you realized how they horribilize everything? Even the weather. They blow everything out of proportion to makes us afraid. The GOP failed the Mayorkas impeachment vote, the money to Israel vote, the no-go of the Border Security bill. Talking heads in unison said that these losses to the GOP is the death knell of the GOP. It’s always the death knell for the GOP.
Sundance’s plan is good, but everyone is too afraid. What if I lose my job? What if? What if?
Did you watch the TV series Yellowstone? The wagon train was the most realistic thing about the pioneers. They knew what they were getting into, but not going to be a pioneer was worse. All the people coming to Ellis Island that were allowed in, had next to nothing. Tenements were horrible, food scarce, jobs low paying. But they persevered. Many left to go west to other states and made their opportunities. We are to soft now to even think of enduring a real hardship. Sheeple want safety, security, and properity, but won’t fight for it, just keep voting in the liars.
I’ve done a lot of that, and a few nastier things, and am still vertical, breathing, and as zealous in my hatred of Communists as my family was a century ago.
Get used to suffering. Train for it. I look at it this way. My parents survived the Depression and my dad managed to not get killed in WW2 in three years over there. What sacrifices have I made? Comparatively few.
The Republic is worth it. 🙂
Well said
Good start even if districts seem too small atfirst thinking. Replacements will be brought in. However, it is good place to start with it becoming organically national as local groups simultaneously are in solidarity work strike mode. No more bussing and trying to get together million-man marches of protest, making the usurpers come to us instead of the masses storming their capitol. At this climax point the final nail is put in coffin with no payroll taxes being collected. The money stops. The slavery machine roars to a halt. No more can usurpers hind behind the tax dollars as their usurping revenue. They are forced to openly and blatantly show they rely on their motherland, the masters they serve, and money laundering. Most Americans will see, believe, stand in solidarity and prepared to annihilate the imported feral barbarian uncivilized 20 million+ foreign army brought in to reduce us to animals not knowing or craving individual freedom.
We saw some of this as business and personal wealth fled California and their giddy reports of surpluses quickly turned into record deficits.
I was one of them. Covid was the final nail in the coffin.
Coordination will overwhelm their enforcers. Leave it to the professionals to deal with them and their Communist chain of command. Stay on the mission of non-participation and the moral path. No stone is too small to leave unturned.
Forex, the only utility service I have is power. No water, sewer or garbage. I handle all that myself. I barter for the occasional fill of the neighbor’s automated garbage unit. It’s impressive what I can get into it. Helps that I serviced the garbage industry for decades . I pump my own water and the septic empties into a leach field. Everything can be run even if the power goes off. Ever seen a bicycle run a jet pump? Ha, ha. 🙂
Get creative. God gave us freedom, liberty and the intellect to capitalize on those wonderful gifts. The rest is up to us.
Dunes2021: I love the self-sufficieny solution, to the extent feasible, based on where you live and what you can handle. To each his own, but, if you don’t like “the system,” you need to get to work.
The mistake was allowing them to jail and torture innocent j6 protesters in kangaroo courts. Millions should have showed up every day demanding their release and ousting the conspirators. This convinced the conspirators that they have the upper hand, demonstrating weakness.
Exactly – that was a terrible stain on we the people – and not to mention going along with the “pandemic.” So why wouldn’t they think we are weak and afraid? I honestly thought that some good ole boys from the South would rescue the J6 people.
Thoughts on how we recover our country. First, it is important to recognize that organized efforts to push back have already begun: immigration (governors), DEI/ESG, education at all levels, energy, internal migration from blue to red, media (fewer viewers and subscribers), consumer choices. Second, the Federal govt must return power to the states and let governors do education, energy, regulation, taxes, and more. Finally, WDC needs to be decentralized with some Departments eliminated, others moved out of WDC, and the Administrative State emasculated. Candidly, the most determinative issue is President Trump’s VP choice. I would like to see either Mike Pompeo or Vivek Ramaswamy chosen but the sole criterion must be that the VP will continue the Trump program. It will take years to recover and build a sustainable system of norms and values and recoup the corrupt judicial system.
The fog is lifting, the zeitgeist is becoming manifest .
Thank You Professor Sundance!
If Trump wins the election, the deep state and democrats are planning to VOID his inauguration and prevent him from taking power. We’ll see…
Stop the employees of all media from going to work. TV, Print, Amazon, Facebook, etc, etc.
1 Make sure you know the date of your primary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries#Primaries_and_caucus_calendar
2 Review your ballot in advance and identify the RINOs
3 If any RINOs are unopposed and there is still time to run another candidate, do what you need to do to make it happen
4 On primary day, vote for the opposing candidate
5 On general election day, vote for Trump and vote for your GOP candidates to strip Democrats of power
If all conservatives voted like this we would make great progress. I always use Wyoming as an example, they deftly removed Liz Cheney during their primary and elected their GOP candidate Harriet Hageman even though Cheney begged voters to elect the Democrat.
It’s not too early to prepare for the 2026 mid-terms. Several RINO Senators are up for re-election. McConnell is one of them, he had several opponents in 2020 so hopefully will again in 2026. If not, find someone to run against him and campaign for that person. McConnell needs to go.
And to those of you who want to comment with the same tired “we tried this already and it didn’t work”, please don’t bother. The fact is we DID NOT try this already. People are still failing to vote strategically and that’s why Fetterman won a precious Senate seat and that’s why Alaska handed their one GOP-held Representative seat to a Democrat. In the general elections we need to vote like Democrats do, as a party-supporting pack. Democrats vote for Democrats and that’s one of the reasons why they win elections.
We should also be putting tremendous pressure on state GOPs to bar any GOP candidate who asks Democrats to interfere in GOP primaries or asks anyone to vote for Democrats in a general election.
Sundance, why are you not ever sending messages about how to vote? You could write a single article and pin it to the top of your forum and it would have great impact. We’re in a primary season RIGHT NOW, so NOW is the time for people to vote strategically. And November is the other time for people to vote strategically. Discussing protests and civil disobedience now is putting the cart before the horse.
The only problem with this is that many people cant afford to miss any days at work due to the high cost of everything. Miss a couple of days and can’t pay rent or car payment. With some it is even food or utilities. This has always been part of the Globalist plan. If you have to work 24/7 just to survive, then no time to think or act.
I understand the WHAT, as outlined be SD, but the big question is HOW.
Would like to know
I live on about a grand a month SS in your state (Oregon) and I can walk to the top of the dune road and see the ocean.
It’s possible. How depends on the person. My newest vehicle is 38 years old. I paid less for my house than some Teslas when I bought it a decade ago. No living large. Recycle materials; build everything oneself. Barter with neighbors. Shop local if at all possible; not easy in the forest, to be sure.
Teach oneself skills. I started in the 60’s. My dad taught me how to think and that was it. He was a government paper pusher and knew zero about practical stuff. I learned on my own.
It’s been raining so I didn’t dry the clothes on the line outside today. Normally the sun dries them. It also helps charge up my battery bank for unexpected power losses. Who installed and wired everything? I did. It’s not rocket science. I’m happy to teach any neighbors who’d like to learn.
I adhere to an old adage of – give a man fish, feed him for a day; teach him to fish, feed him for life. 🙂
Here is an idea that just occurred to me. Many companies use payroll software that pushes data entry to the employee themselves. How about we pick a one month period where we organize people to change their payroll settings to withhold $O or minimal federal and state taxes. Would not a significant decrease in tax receipts illustrate the strength of our numbers?
Oh wow!
I’ve advocated this “tax rebellion” for decades. Simply keep as much of your money as “allowed by law”. Starve the swamp monster.
I have long advocated this.
My only question is how much of government operations is funded by tax and how much by borrowing
Does anybody know the answer to that?
Good post!
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but I failed to include the downside of this approach, if you will. By claiming to be exempt or by claiming a whole lot of dependents, You are not eliminating your tax due , but simply delaying it until April 15.
People following this strategy, would have to be disciplined enough to set aside money in savings for that. Therein lies the rub I think. Very few would be disciplined enough to do this or have the brainpower to understand the strategy.
So theoretically, widespread adoption of this approach could create a year’s worth of chaos.
In addition, I believe if you owe $1K or more when you file your income taxes for the year the IRS can impose a fine even though you pay all taxes due with your tax return by April 15th
With the financial games big government and the financial industry plays on the average citizen, even with strict “pay yourself first individual personal policies”…something always gets in the way…whether the unexpected home issue, medical bill, car failure or hidden fees in banking, investing and taxes….that get in the way. There is always something.
As much as I despise giving the govt an “Interest Free Loan of My Money”, it is nice to get a refund at the end of tax season.
Side note…Here is a tail to make one laugh….from my way back machine…I have shared this before….
Congress was in a huge rush to push thru the Panama Canal Treaty back in the day…wording of the Treaty, which then, came under ‘contract law’ of sorts as Zonians tried to fight it…
The “Treaty said” allegedly….that “US citizens would not pay taxes”….well with the high levels of intelligence, even back then…in Congress/sarc….they “meant that Zonians would not pay taxes to Panama”. Most Zonians then were ‘anti government dis-establishmentarians’ and took that to mean…’none paid to Panama or the US…’
And many did not pay up….caused a big bru haha…but as always, Uncle took his cut eventually and they fixed that snafu in a huge hurry. Who ever saw Congress move that fast, except when impeaching Trump?
A lot of my friends parents got caught with their pants down so to speak, lots of little planes and sailboats were suddenly for sale as well as real beach front property in the “Interior”…I had overheard a conversation between my parents and asked about it….this was my introduction to ‘taxed too much’….Dad said he would keep his mouth shut and pay up…(Dad’s best advice regarding politics, was just that, “keep your mouth shut”….not something I inherited from him…LOL.
Yes…it never seems to end. And now everything costs way more.
I NEVER want a refund at the end of the year.
We pay the penalty as a sign that we held onto our money minimizing the theft.
After all, if the taxes are due on April 15, why do I have to prepay months in advance?
I agree with that logic too, we get hoodwinked into the tax refund ideology…
…wishing there was a simple solution…oh there is…
MAGA forever.
Okay..like the idea…but there are more of us than there are of them. They have learned to be active in community organizing at the precinct level where we have not. Point is, if we can fix the mail-in ballot process, get back to learning how to count in a few hours and not days, and get out the vote then we can effect change at the local, county/parish, and state level. We simply are not active and united. How can we be more active and more united than the thugs?!?!?! The other idea is to honest to goodness get a MAGA party going in less than a year and then all move to that party.
It is more complicated than that, taxes are due quarterly and if you don’t pay enough in the quarter, you get a fine.
Also, workaround is simple. Nothing changes during a tax strike. Once it becomes obvious what is happening, all variables revert to prior settings for the duration of the strike. No user input required.
It will have to be a system they do not control.
Larger businesses are due monthly and large corporations are remitted weekly. And, it’s not like the government operates with real money on a daily basis anyway. I believe there are also rules for the number of exemptions you can claim for W-2 employees where you have to prove the reason why you’re claiming more than so many exemptions.
I believe 2/3 is taxes and 1/3 debt. The 1/3 will get larger as the interest rate alone will drive that number. Also, if GDP stagnates and the continuing resolution keeps funding government the number debt or deficit will get larger. We have a growing workforce that is working parttime and they will pay little or no taxes. The claims that O’Biden has made about growing employment has been lies. The numbers have quietly been reduced. Even then the numbers show government hiring and parttime hiring.
At the current rate of deficits, no change in spending , and no change in GDP the debt at a minimum will be over 40 trillion by 2030. More likely 42T. The interest on the debt is growing as the older debt is due to be matured and will come under the 5%+ interest rates. From virtually zero interest to 5%+ on several trillion. Two other factors that will increase the debt. There will be a call by the UniParty to increase funding to the defense/Industrial complex and humanitarian funding for millions of illegals. Even if there is a change in regimes the cost to remove those illegally here will be super costly.
The hole the voters have dug is deep and the bottom is no where in sight.
Thanks for the detailed reply.
If, after ridiculous spending is cut, I would support more spending on more jails, more nuthouses, mass deportation and an armed border force. It’s now a matter of life and death.
Armed border force, then, mass deportation, then, more nut houses and more jails. Order is important. The foreign criminals need to be housed in country of origin’s jails, not ours.
There are enough citizen criminals and loony people that we still need those things.
No offense but please allow me to gently correct your term “nuthouse.” Mental illnesses like schizophrenia and bipolar are serious dangerous illnesses – many people with these illnesses commit suicide. This is a more accurate description: “schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and severe depression are not merely “behavioral health problems,” as the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration calls them, but rather vicious brain diseases that can destroy lives and families.” People who have relatives with these brain diseases understand this all too well. A more compassionate term might be psychiatric hospitals.
I’m fine with whatever the more precise and acceptable terminology is today.
My concern is that I don’t want these folks wandering around and creating havoc, threatening people and generally presenting safety and security issues for the general public.
Those not able to participate in the civil society and conduct themselves appropriately have to be removed from it until such time as they may be able to (if ever). We aren’t doing that.
The number of places you can venture to and feel reasonably safe gets smaller and smaller by the day. And I’m not talking about the wild inner cities either.
That particular function is, or was, reserved to the payroll or finance office. Years ago, before retiring, the company I worked for allowed a cash out of accrued vacation time. I always had a lot of time on the hook, so if there was a family purchase or something special we wanted, I’d put in for the hours and also do a W4, changing my tax to S99 or exempt, then change it back. Never a problem. Then the time came, my payroll rep called and said that she was required by the IRS to automatically change the withholding back after one payroll. So my point is, as great an idea as a tax protest is, the IRS has closed that particular loop hole. Sorry to be so long-winded.
I have no problem with that thinking.
However, if you plan to attempt this strategy keep the following in mind.
They will FIRST cutoff municipal police, firemen, EMT, and trash collection services “due to lack of funds.”
They NEVER cut the grossly- overstaffed municipal administrations of personnel who are likely being paid 2x to 3x what they’re worth in terms of productivity and citizen benefit.
Democrats (and to a lesser extent Republicans also) use their positions of political power to hire as many of their family, buddies, and buddies’ family, and relatives of large donors and benefactors as possible. And they all usually get obscenely & unjustifiably large salaries. Those people will be the last to get canned in a budget downturn.
So if you are prepared for the loss of what most people consider “essential” public services, proceed with caution.
Also don’t forget the iRS with its 87,000 additional agents, some of whom will be armed.
https://www.businessinsider.com/irs-hiring-special-agents-prepared-use-deadly-force-2023-4
Individual cities fund their police, fire, emergency, garbage. Any legislative district can comprise only part of one city, or cover several smaller cities, and some districts no city, only unincorporated areas. So, I’m not sure a one-response answer can cover all scenarios. And I think a municipal response of that nature, while certainly possible, only exacerbates the problem and is short lived – they’d be fueling their opposition. I think the idea is to send a message, not burn down the district like Antifa or BLM.
You should be correct Caroline but I’ve seen this multiple times over the past five and a half decades (the first two decades of my life I was too young to pay attention). It has been the Establishment’s go-to response to budget and/or tax cut initiatives.
And yes I think your assertion about that traditional strategy (cut vital services first) fuels the opposition (MAGA Deplorables) is exactly what propelled DJT to victory in 2016 and truthfully also in 2020 except for the massive cheating.
Correct. I’m old enough to remember during moonbat Brown’s first disastrous run as Governor when he did just that same thing in response the passage of Prop 13. That’s why I was so mad when he was again elected 3 decades later. He should have never been allowed to run, and it was his mud slinging, dirty politics that sank Meg Whitman.
In much the same vein, when school budgets fail to pass, the powers-that-be make sure to punish the students. They immediately pull their sports and extracurriculars and cancel programs for gifted students, as well as remedial programs.
Teachers, admins and ESL programs are never, ever affected by budget cuts. And somehow, districts “find” a million dollars to build new athletic fields the moment their teacher contract negotiations are concluded.
Yes! Great point Judith. I’ve seen that firsthand myself. It’s disgusting. In Baltimore City, Baltimore County and I’m sure other “blue” Maryland counties, the public school administrations are overstuffed with overpaid administrative personnel that significantly increase average costs per student, but do not elevate average student test scores or graduation rates (dismally low) one single bit. It’s nothing more than “urban welfare” in thin disguise.
Yes, there are all kinds of situations in my county. I used to live in one of the cities, with electric, water, sewage, roads, firemen, police handled by the city. I now live in an unincorporated area of a different city same county, I have septic on my property and pay for city water. The county provides roads, sheriffs, ambulance and firemen. I have a friend who lives just outside the county. He has his own water, his own septic and a dirt road. His electric to the property is FPL, but he has his own setup to handle multiple residences.
I think Sundance’s plan can still be far more effective than our current options. I don’t think anything we do would be without some hardship on our parts, but the way things are going, hardship is headed our way unless we deport and close the border.
I think you’re right.
And, I think the government, on several levels, is pushing hard for that outcome.
One powerful tool has been the flooding of illegal aliens into the country.
The effect on community services is devastating the budgets.
Here in the Soviet Socialist Commonwealth of Colorado, a sanctuary “state”, forty thousand illegal border crossers have arrived. Denver DMV and many city services have curtailed hours, or closed altogether.
How’s that for effective government?
Very unfortunate but 100% believable..
Hang in there. The only way out of this will take effective effort on the part of citizens everywhere. 40K is nothing when they’ve allowed entry of tens of millions. There’s plenty for every city in the country to have their budgets ruined.
The Democrats have already reduced police or made them useless , and cut other city services, to care for illegals flooding into their sanctuary cities. Notice also the trash pick up workers unions didn’t care how high the trash piled up when they wanted higher wages.
In the European countries where the farmers have taken over they simply ignored the complaints of citizens whose daily routines were interrupted along with the daily harangue of leftist newspapers and did their thing.
Oh I am aware. But is everyone who is advocating for general strike prepared to live without these basic services?
I’m pretty sure that a LOT of people have never collectively been without **all** these services for any length of time.
I know it sounds bold to advocate for it but how about elderly seniors and single parents with young children, handicapped people etc. Very Few of them live like wilderness preppers.
I’m just saying. Make accommodations for people in those categories if we prepare to do this.
CPP here. Sure for the minute. You will be fined for not paying when due, on your paycheck. The true up (your tax return) will be costly the Employee files exempt knowing they are not. IRS and state will hit you with late fees, interest fees & lying employee has to prove exempt status.
That is a strategy that could work, but hasn’t.
Also, it’s not up close and personal like the strategy Sundance is putting out here.
It’s a general tactic not a tactic that targets a specific person or group in a specific location.
Example: If you want to get at Jerry Nadler you don’t target Federal taxes. You pull off a garbage strike in NY’s 12th Congressional District.
..and you let him and all his constituents know, it’s his fault!
as well as what he needs to do to stop it:)
If I’m not mistaken any employee can complete a W-4 form to change their federal withholding to the minimal amount just by submitting the form to their payroll office. It doesn’t take being able to change the payroll settings yourself. I’ve done it in the past and worked for a local government agency at the time. Just print the W-4 form available online, fill it out and submit it to whomever does payroll where you work
Careful.
We, the People, are hanging onto our republic by a thread.
They have the numbers to make a strong impact.
They have already proven their willingness to use it.
Even deceitfully and illegally.
It’s been said a lot, but Carlin said it best:
“It’s a big club and we ain’t in it.”
That stings when one thinks about the Constitution.
What they have done.
But that also works both ways if the clubs are big enough.
You be careful.
When I travel, I make sure to make purchases of stuff I use, in states that have lower consumer taxes…and that is almost all of them. And I use cash. My favorite coffee (Major Dickinson’s), soap, snacks, TP, my favorite shampoo or conditioner…anything small, that I know is also cheaper elsewhere, but relatively necessary. It is small, a micro impact but does make me feel better.
No… that will result in a government demand to do ‘backup withholding’ which is the highest amount in an individual bracket. Sorry… there is a better way.
We pay on April 15th at 1145pm. Been doing that for years.