In an effort to keep the Daily Open Thread a little more open topic we are going to start a new daily thread for “Presidential Politics”. Please use this thread to post anything relating to the JoeBama Administration and Presidency.
“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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Whenever the possibility presents, throw sand into the machinery…
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Important … Joe doesn’t think he has to get Congressional approval before he engages in war (just relabel war to retaliatory strikes … or ?)
Kirby does NOT answer her questions … he answers in his progressive-ese …
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Biden Spox Kirby LOSES It On Reporter at Briefing in Stunning Exchange Over Bombings in Middle East
👇 watch 👇
https://www.mediaite.com/news/biden-spox-kirby-loses-it-on-reporter-at-briefing-in-stunning-exchange-over-bombings-in-middle-east/
“He is not looking at polling in relation to these attacks and anything contrary to that is offensive.”
UhHuh sure Kirby!
Any org with a spokesperson has chosen them because they can spin bs quickly and are less obvious when they are just lying or making it up out of whole cloth.
It is not his place to take offense.
clarion: So true!
Yes, but when it comes to Israel and the pro Palestine protestors in Michigan and the “Genocide Joe” chant he most certainly looks at his polling numbers.
Joe Biden editorial (May 8, 2020 @ Medium.com) on PDJT’s veto of a War Powers Resolution on Iran:
The President’s message in vetoing the war powers resolution on Iran demonstrates yet again his contempt for the U.S. Congress as a co-equal branch of government. The war power is shared under our Constitution, for a simple but profound reason: the Framers understood that the solemn decision to take the country to war requires the informed consent of the American people, as expressed through their elected representatives and their President. When I am President, I will work closely with Congress on decisions to use force, not dismiss congressional legislation as “very insulting.”
One thing is unmistakably clear: Donald Trump’s policy decisions have increased the risk of war in the Middle East. Two years ago today, he withdrew from the Iran nuclear agreement — a deal that was verifiably blocking Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Back then, he promised us a better deal. He hasn’t delivered. Instead, Iran has ramped up its nuclear enrichment activity, moving them closer to the capacity to develop a nuclear bomb. And Iran has become even more provocative in the region, increasing the danger for American forces stationed in the Middle East.
Despite his veto of the congressional joint resolution, Donald Trump should understand this: he does not have the authority to go to war with Iran without Congressional authorization.
That is what the potted plant said in 2020, let’s watch what he does now.
Holy BS, Batman.
Yes….
BUT
Where oh where is the outrage from conGRESS?!
Very good find.
Too bad we don’t all live under the same rules.
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Did not watch.
Did the reporter ask why Bribem believes he has unlimited military authority but has his hands tied to do anything to stop the invasion of our southern border until Congress ‘let’s’ him . . .?
For the U.S., the last CONSTITUTIONALLY declared war was WW2.
‘Worst Savagery Against Jews Since Holocaust’ | Benjamin Netanyahu v Douglas Murray
Israel can limit the ICJ’s damageIsrael must immediately end its acceptance of the ICJ’s jurisdiction with respect to the Genocide Convention. Even a slight change in the composition of the Court or the geopolitical climate would bring a disastrous result – and hostile states like South Africa can roll the dice as many times as they want, with no consequence if they lose and a huge payoff if they win.
https://www.israelhayom.com/opinions/israel-can-place-limits-on-the-damage-the-icj-can-inflict/
request, hoping Treepers will be kind enough to answer as I’ve been very busy and leave home at 6 am and don’t return till 9 pm and have to prepare for the next day (will be finished by Saturday) so have not been able to spend time online searching, thank you in advance:
Have a great day everyone, the Treehouse and all those on its branches are a source of strength, and patience!
Is this it?
The Men Who Wanted to Be Left Alone
“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
– Author Unknown
Amen.
Thank you Patience. I know it was intended for Bessie2003 but I also needed it. I am a woman that just want to be left alone…however. I copied and pasted to my Notes to pass on to my kids. I didn’t do it when Sundance last posted it.
Yes. I printed it off and posted it on my office wall over a year ago.
The version I found has the essay set in two columns on either side of a silhouetted, well-armed, loaded-down–man-who-just-wanted-to-be-left-alone….photographed from behind so the silhouette is dark, walking into brightly lit …..
….the brightness could be the sun rising, the sun setting, or explosions….but he’s walking toward it, surrounded by it….
…he just wanted to be left alone….
…but no, they wouldn’t leave him alone…
…so all righty then….
Great idea. I just printed it as well 😊
✝️❤️🇺🇸
My efforts to use nitter links posted here give me a rate limit error, so I haven’t seen them for a week or so.
Looks like Patience posted “The Men Who Wanted to be Left Alone”
Bessie:
Robert Pilchman posted this a few days back when someone else was having nitter issues:
https://nitter.freedit.eu/TheLastRefuge2
It just worked for me.
Thank you all so Much!!! (running late, wanted to write that down to put in the pocket).
Thank you for your hard work at the Nevada Primary!
I suspect that anyone with an IQ over 50 who did this would not have used their cell phone (the cell company’s tracking data having been supposedly damaged) or their fare card or a car with their license plate which makes this even more suspicious than the FBI’s failure to follow up on it.
FBI Tied January 6 Pipe Bomber To Metro Card Of Ex-Gov Official, But Blocked Interview Of Him, Former Agent Says
Jan 29, 2024
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fbi-tied-january-6-pipe-bomber-to-metro-card-of-ex-gov-official-but-blocked-interview-of-him-former-agent-says
A former FBI agent said that the Bureau quickly believed that it tied the person who planted pipe bombs at the Democrat National Committee and the Republican National Committee to a particular Metro fare card and license plate, but did not allow him to interview the person of interest and pulled his team off of the lead.
Kyle Seraphin, who led FBI surveillance teams, told The Daily Wire that shortly after January 6, a counterintelligence team met him at a firehouse in Falls Church, Virginia to brief him on his next surveillance target: They had used security footage to follow the person into a Metro station after he planted the bombs, and identified the fare card that was used.
That fare card then allowed them to determine that the person got off at a Metro stop in Northern Virginia, where surveillance footage showed the person entering a car. Both the car and the fare card were in the name of the same person — a retired Air Force chief master sergeant who was now working as a contractor with a security clearance, they said.
Seraphin and his team were assigned to stake out the person’s row house for days, but the FBI blocked his request to interview the person, he said. Then they were called off the target completely and told to pore through low-priority leads about minor January 6 participants, he said.
“Dirty Bob” Mueller!
They’re all dirty, Barr, Pompeo, Pence, Nimratta, McConnell, Thune, Langford, Johnson, Wray, Garland etc! Any elected politician or DC bureaucrat I now presume to be dirty, corrupt or for sale until proven otherwise! They are all guilty until proven innocent! It’s how President Trump (who isn’t a politician) is being treated (except he will never be proven innocent) in the New York State Judiciary and in the DC District Court with its hanging juries! This approach I developed over time since becoming a wolverine! JMO
Get ready for the fall guy.
so, this Seraphin guy KNOWS who it is, then? why has he not named names? because its “against the rules” i am assuming.
damn your rules.
rules, aka “Obstruction of Justice”
Maybe it is Ray Epps’s spiritual brother-in-law and he holds a get-out=of-jail-free card. Who is to say convincingly that this pipe bomb caper was not pre-arranged by the FIB.
well exactly. while i applaud this guy spilling SOME of the beans, the issue is that it has already given plenty of fair warning to the fascists of what elements they need to cover. even now, there is a very good chance that they are glossing over who this is, with the expectation it comes out, to ensure the person is either gone/missing and/or framed with the usual BS maga hats laying around or a social media profile that sounds typically cartoonish.
its literally already too late now to get to the next person on the totem pole.
Where have we heard Kyle Seraphim before? I started to just ask the question but decided to search. Now I remember.
“FBI whistleblower: Counterterrorism cases against alleged right-wing extremists mostly entrapment”
“The FBI’s counterterrorism investigations targeting suspected White supremacists and right-wing extremists are mostly “entrapment” operations, a former agent involved in those cases told The Washington Times.
The startling accusation came from Kyle Seraphin, an FBI agent of six years who was recently suspended by the bureau. He worked in multiple field offices in the counterterrorism division and conducted investigations of suspected domestic extremism and White supremacist plots over the past few years.”
No. 1, the demand for White supremacy vastly outstrips the supply of White supremacy. No. 2, the FBI’s playbook when it comes to counterterrorism investigations is always and unequivocally morally equivalent to entrapment, even if there’s a legal definition that allows them to skirt that.” Mr. Seraphin said.
Third, Mr. Seraphin said, the FBI has no objective metric on how to prioritize investigations.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/sep/22/fbi-whistleblower-counterterrorism-cases-against-a/
Both DNC and RNC targeted says what ?
J6 Committee avoidance says what ?
Contractor with a security clearance says what ?
No interview of person of interest says what ?
Only 1% gets to be chief, it should not be difficult to find him.
NO ONE Is ANONYMOUS Anymore… NO ONE That is a Citizen in the West.
Nimarata ” Nikki ” Halley was JUST REMINDING those of U.S. THAT KNOW that WE ARE NOT ANONYMOUS:
” we ” WANT YOU to PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE ” we ” CAN Track You WHEN ” WE ” WANT.
( an E-9 & a Contractor ( and PROBABLY EOD ) – TOO EASY… )
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So, J6 air force connections?
Ashli Babbitt
Jayden X Sullivan’s father
The pipe bomber
Hmmmmm . . . .
Dont forget about Air Force Seargent sergeant Steven Carrillo (Boogaloo Boies) was charged with the June 6, 2020 murder of a Santa Cruz County deputy and the May 29 murder of a Federal Protective Service officer in Oakland. At the time of the attacks, Carrillo was an active-duty member of an elite Air Force unit tasked with guarding American military personnel at unsecure foreign airfields.[67]
Our Democracy™: The Democratic Weaponization of Government and the Need for Decentralization
The Constitution aimed to limit the power and reach of government; its rival aims to make government triumph everywhere.
January 28, 2024
https://amgreatness.com/2024/01/28/our-democracy-a-deep-dive-into-democratic-weaponization-and-the-need-for-decentralization/
Except:
Let’s say Trump wins in November. Let’s say further that he somehow manages to evade his enemies and actually take office at noon on January 20, 2025. What should he do then?
Here is an incomplete list.
The overriding imperative, as I have argued before, must be to do everything possible to reduce the place of Washington in the metabolism of American political life. To this end, Trump should endeavor as far as possible to govern the country from outside of Washington. The first symbolic act should be to hold the inauguration someplace other than Washington. I do not insist that it be held in Mar-a-Lago, but why not?
As to specifics, on the first minute of the first day in office, Trump should take a page from Bill Clinton. He should fire every Democratic prosecutor. All of them. With immediate effect.
One of the first things the Clintons did was to fire the head of the IRS and put their own man in place. Trump should do the same. Ditto for the FBI. In 2017, Trump left Sally Yates, a left-wing Democrat, in effective charge of the DOJ. She was a disaster.
There are thousands of political appointments in the gift of the president. All Democrats and pajama-boy Republicans should be purged on day one by 12:02. All of them.
i like both of these suggestions… i went to the link hoping for a lot more… these were it.
i would also sack almost all of the generals and admirals in charge right now, and consolidate the number of them from whatever it is now (in the hundreds) down to 4-5 total globally.
declare an emergency at the border and deploy federal troops by the end of the week.
i would also exec decree that anyone caught spying on americans without due process, or any agency leaking info to the press for ANY REASON, will be treated as a wartime crime and tried by the military.
declare he will not sign ANY CR whatsoever, no matter the reason. Congress must put together an ACTUAL BUDGET before he will even consider it.
Going to have to declare war to try civilians for wartime crimes.
Also, very dictatorial.
I’d fire almost everyone in the executive branch agencies. I would publicly fire everyone at DOJ and NSA while reading in the public square their offenses. They hide behind the union, let them sue and pay the salaries. End all access immediately. Turds like Mary McCord and Lisa Monaco gone. Build a team at GSA to review every contract we have through every intel agency. Get 100% of their work product in the process. Tell any of the contractors that hiring anyone fired from the exec agencies will immediately terminate their contract with the USA.
There is more, but I don’t have time.
“There is more, but I don’t have time.”
psh, even 4 years will not be enough time!
Touche
One thing is tofocus on what THEY did, and reverse it.
Mueller, with Comey and Weismann revamped the FBI, from the 7th floor down.
One of the KEY functions of the FBI which they exploited was the background checks for issueing security clearances.
They used “7 and out” policy in order to be able to control FBI personelle by ideology (purging all Conservatives) and then used their control over security clearances to purge/control personelle in all other depts and branches.
So, start there and reverse the process, either by purging FBI, or by transferring the security clearance/background check responsibility/authority elsewhere?
Ezecutive order disbanding the fibbies.
All fantastic ideas. Muley, I most especially like this one,
“declare he will not sign ANY CR whatsoever, no matter the reason. Congress must put together an ACTUAL BUDGET before he will even consider it.”
I would add slash those budgets by 20-50% by eliminating personnel.
Eliminate EPA, DOE, and many more unconstitutional departments.
yeah i would put LOTS of conditions on that budget, but the STARTING point will be, it has to be a real budget.
not sure how feasible it is, but i would also say that if they diddle around debating it, the shutdowns are NOT BACKPAID to all those who lose pay.
I love abandoning the CR cycle, but an absolute here may force backtracking because a budget might never materialize from committees likely headed by RINOs or Dems.
That said, I’m on board.
I have longed for a President that would wait for them to pull that whole shut down the Govt. charade, and just call their bluff and LEAVE it shut down.
I like all of your suggestions,…except the part about dealing with “leaks”; EVERY admin., and it seems like every dept. has ‘leaks’ and ‘leakers’; its a “company town” and seemd to be ingrained in the culture.
PDJT has spoken in generalities, about SOME of his “plans on day one”, and articles in Axios and Politico, (probably based on intel agencies monitoring PDJT and his team and leaking to the media) have detailed pretty exhaustively his plans for staffing and gutting the administrative State, etc.
And we can also see the ‘other side’ already instituting their “Insurance policy in case PDJT wins” with attempts to undermine his Presidential authority….
So, there WILL be a War over the Buerocracy, that seems certain.
As to specifics, on the first minute of the first day in office, Trump should take a page from Bill Clinton. He should fire every Democratic prosecutor. All of them. With immediate effect.
That used to be the norm. The prosecutors would leave when the new administration came in. When GW Bush and John Ashcroft came in 2000, the Clintonistas didn’t leave. Big controversy getting them out. Bush and Ashcroft pretty much caved on the issue.
They created the ILLUSION of caving.
Bush and Co. paved the way for Obama,…was it intentional? I think so.
Bush Jr. appointed MUELLER to head the FBI.
Mueller brought in Comey and Wiesmann to the FBI 7thfloor.
Mueller signed the MOU with the CIA, which gave the FBI access to the NSA data base, so that FBI Contractors could do all of those 702 about searches of Americans, with 3 hop.
In exchange, the CIA got an illegal CIA “station” in DC, which they called “DOJ-NSD”.
They (Mueller, Comey and Weismann) instituted the “7 and out” policy which enabled them to purge experienced agents, and required all newbies to work a year at headquarters, so they coyld be ideologically vetted.
When you see that photo of FBI agents kneeling to BLM, thats the result of the Mueller ‘remaking’ of the FBI.
And, having ideologically purged the FBI, and with the FBI in charge of background investigations for those handling classified info, the way was paved for purging/embedding the Military, I/C etc. with Globullust implants.
All done by BUSH, NOT Obama; the lightbringer had it all set up for him to capitalise on, upon his arrival.
“Don’t throw away a single shot, my brave fellows; . . . don’t throw away a single shot, but take good aim; nor touch a trigger, till you can see the whites of their eyes.” Gen. Israel Putnam Bunker Hill 1775
Our Great American President Donald J Trump was basically the swamps prisoner in his first term. Every person (swamp rat), institution, and alphabet agency even the grounds keeper was against him/us. In order to break the swamp rats stranglehold on all the swamps, state and federal, a different approach was needed.
Though President Trump won a massive landslide victory in 2020, the swamp had to act and in desperation and went for the steal. Their assumption that enough people would slide back into normalcy, sadly so far, this has been true. Their tee-time, tennis time, beach time, you name the time that fills their day while their country and the Western world slips away aka “Whistling by the graveyard”
But, as the absurdity of B-B-Biden builds and the complete fraud that has taken hold of the levers of power in our world even the normies are looking up and asking; “Huh…do what?!”
Inflation, racial strife, sexual confusion, WAR, border invasion, bio-weapons, even retirement pensions being threatened by being dispersed to the “needy” is finally disturbing this phony bliss. I’m hearing in my own world, “Where this is heading and what about our children, grandchildren and our country?”
I believe that this is all by design to force the sideliners off of the sideline. Nothing is guaranteed in life, especially a country. Our culture, a way of living as Americans is like President Reagan said, “it’s not passed along in the bloodstream” we have to fight for it.
Like Gen. Putnam said, “Don’t throw away a single shot, my brave fellows; . . . don’t throw away a single shot, but take good aim; nor touch a trigger, till you can see the whites of their eyes.”
These demons had to be drug into the light, fully exposed to be defeated and the trap could not be tripped until we see the whites of their eyes.
It’s getting time to pull that proverbial trigger and like that pivotal day on Bunker Hill, the outcome depends on you and I waking up and staying awake. We have a country to save.
God Bless Free America! Slaves no more.
N20 was a TOTAL DEMOCRAT INSURRECTION via a FRAUDULENT ELECTION against America and the COUP succeeded. The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT was OVERTHROWN and covered up by the media, politicians and bureaucrats. Is there an agency in the federal government that has NOT been CORRUPTED????????
The insurrection or more accurately overthrow of our Government did not occur in 2020, it had been gradually going on since at least 1913.
Bingo!
No. Our government state & federal are captured this is why the lunacy.
wow…is this a new thing? Or has there always been an exclusion in health insurance policies for illness or injuries caused by war, riots, insurrection etc?
And exactly WHO defines a war as an “Undeclared war” under these policies?
A: Yes–WHO.
after we check our insurance policies, what then?
Sigh, have a drink, and eat more popcorn?
PERFECT suggestion, honestly. will lower my stress level for the day, heh
Contact your state insurance board. Find out what is going on.
My Blue Cross plan has none of this language.
Nope, BCBS excludes war, riots epidemics etc.
https://www.anthemplancomparison.com/docs/le/wi/Anthem%20BCBS%20Exclusions%20and%20Limitations-8-30-13.pdf
I just read my 2024 policy in its entirety. I didn’t have any exclusions for war, etc. Maybe the difference is the comparison you included seems to be a public policy. Mine is a FedBlue policy
Could be, I have the fed policy also, but found the exclusion in a public BCBS policy because it came up first in the search engine.
To answer your question–Yes, these types of exclusions on life and health insurance policies go back at least 5 decades that I know of. But I don’t recall seeing “undeclared war” before, but it could have been.
” State of domestic turmoil and upheaval” use to be one of the catch all phrases 40 years ago as well as “any injury or death that occurs while being involved in any illegal acts”.
Arizona racketeering –
Kari Lake Reveals Tip of the Iceberg Recording of Deep State, Cartel Bribes & Control of Arizona Politics – Clever Journeys
Rip the curtains open in the dark room and watch the varmints scurry.
Awesome!
would love that. why has she or trump not called for RNC punishment unless and until they name names of who is “back east”?
Read the two articles on todays AmericanThinker.
Unfortunately Kari’s move was for naught, as Dimwits successor as Az. Chair is just as corrupt a RINO as he is.
Disappointing because WE theoretically had a chance to replace a RINO in authority with a MAGA,…however STILL making the mistake of focusing on the CHAIR, instead of the EXECUTIVE BOARD, that sits behind the public face Chair, and actually calls the shots.
In order to truly get a State R party that is MAGA, it is absolutely neccesary to tag and bag EVERY RINO, GOPe *sshat sitting on the State Executive Board, as THAT is where the real political power resides.
Its pretty clear the $ offer was from McConnell, via the Senate Republican Campaign Committee, with its non-denial denial.
Dimwit, in his resignation letter states the Lake campaign told him they have additional tapes that revealed more, and that they would release (if he didn’t resign).
With that “out there” the NRSCC would be foolish to put out an unequivocal denial, which might then provoke the KL campaign to release additional tapes to refute; hence the non-denial denial.
I thought it was very telling that DeWitt managed to mention that the cartels are operating in most states….that was his way of letting her know who the power is behind the puppet RINOs back East.
“Berger revealed that the Sinaloa cartel has been paying bribes to public officials in Arizona, including judges and elected officials such as Democratic Governor Katie Hobbs and Secretary of State Adrian Fontes.”
I would be willing to bet hard earned money that Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson, the judge that dismissed both of Kari Lake’s election trials is included.
Not to worry the FBI Border Crimes Corruption Task Force if all over it. Its an open investigation, 10 years running. Any day now.
Dewitt says,
“The release of our conversation by Lake confirms a disturbing tendency to exploit private interactions for personal gain and increases concerns about her habit of secretly recording personal and private conversations.
This is obviously a concern given how much interaction she has with high profile people including President Trump.
I question how effective a United States Senator can be when they cannot be trusted to engage in private and confidential conversations.”
🤪😜😂
Sounds pretty busted to me. I guess we should be trusting Dewitt. Someone should check his bank account.
Anti-sunlight is anti-American at this point.
Isaiah 41:
11 Behold, all who are incensed against you
shall be put to shame and confounded;
those who strive against you
shall be as nothing and shall perish.
12 You shall seek those who contend with you,
but you shall not find them;
those who war against you
shall be as nothing at all.
A Word from the Lord, received Jan. 26, 2023–LIVE WITH JULIE (rumble.com):
“The Red Sea Moment, when Pharoah and all his men fell, and the walls of the Red Sea collapsed around them, do you not know the walls of your enemies are collapsing around them? They will not have their way and I will have My Say. They will not have their way, but I will have the say, the Final Say.
As things start to shift and things start to change, and things become more unusual, when more information keeps coming out over and over, one explosive evidence after another is coming. And I told you it will pour in like a flood and that flood of truth is destroying every single thing they were doing against you. So stand in this time. Arise, O, My United States. Arise Children of Almighty God and defend yourself and I will defend you.
Don’t back off to their intimidation. They’re intimidating you and they’re acting like they’re the ones in charge. They’re using people as examples that they are trying to throw in their prison cells. Well, guess who opens up prison cells that they cannot shut? That is Me. You will see. You will see Me, My Children, push you through. So you push back. You defend with My Word. You use My Authority and I will be on the scene every single time.
I am at your border. I am all around. I am everywhere. What you are about to see Me do for this nation and so many nations around the world, no man has ever seen what I am about to do. And remember, your enemies are through. Because of what I am about to do, your enemies are through. So take notice and take My Words, hold them tight, get them down in your heart and stand on them.
Fight! Fight, My Children. Fight like never before. Fight with My Word. Stand and pray. Praise Me! Worship Me! Because when you do, I set up ambushes and I am destroying everything they’re doing against you while you are praising and worshiping me. Remember the battle is Mine. The battle is Mine. All I need from you is your faith and trust in Me.” …….
Exodus 15:
3 The Lord is a man of war;
the Lord is His name.
4 Pharaoh’s chariots and his army
He has thrown into the sea;
his chosen captains also
are drowned in the Red Sea.
5 The depths have covered them;
they sank to the bottom like a stone.
6 “Your right hand, O Lord,
is glorious in power.
Your right hand, O Lord,
shatters the enemy.
Be it unto us according to Your Word, Father God, Amen!
Rest in the Vine: “Arise; Stand and Fight!”–Julie Green Ministries
Ashley Biden Diary Reveals Child Sex Trauma, Drug Abuse, Resentment For Joe – Whistleblower (6:04)
Bannon’s War Room
29 Jan 2024
https://rumble.com/v4a32y0-ashley-biden-diary-reveals-child-sex-trauma-drug-abuse-resentment-for-joe-w.html
In her diary, Biden’s daughter recalled inappropriate showers as a child, and as a young adult, she wrote how would stay out late at night to avoid being assaulted by Pedo Pete.
Interestingly, when Trafficker Biden had his Gestapo Agents kick in the door of reporter James O’Keefe for the non-crime of having seen the diary, the New York Times reported the incident– but without mentioning the most salient fact: JOE BIDEN SHOWERS WITH CHILDREN.
That’s how the REAL Professional Liars do it, people.
Rest in the Vine: What Child Molester Is This? A: Joe Biden–by Which I Mean, of Course, Barack Obama Also
Food for thought…in a lot of these type cases, it is brought to the mother’s attention…and the mother either denies it or does nothing.
Or perhaps when she can no longer deny it, and is hit with the guilt of realising her denial for years actually facillitated it, ….AND she is dealing with an abusive husband who is very powerful, etc. perhaps she decides her only way out is to commit suicide, and take the kids with her by pulling out in front of a big rig.
Occams razor,…?
Why is the patently talentless Taylor Swift EVERYWHERE?
Is it just good marketing – even great marketing – by advertising agencies, showing that you can put lipstick on a plastic doll and it will transform into a moneymaker?
Or is something else – seemingly improbable – happening right before our eyes?
We know from her various statements – and her boyfriend’s pushing THE SHOT “to protect you from COVID-19” – that she is a Leftist.
ZeroHedge wonders – again it seems paranoid, but… – whether or not Taylor’s popularity will be used to push Leftism onto her millions of fans, many of whom cannot yet vote, and to guide them against President Trump.
“...Let’s begin with Michael Benz, a former Trump admin State Department official whose work has been cited in congressional hearings, (who) posted on X (Twitter) a video from 2019 featuring the Pentagon’s psychological operations research that pitched the idea of turning Taylor into an asset to combat “disinformation.” …
“…Certainly Democrats appear to be salivating all over her ahead of the presidential election to turn ‘Swifites’ into blue voters. …
“Makes millions singing about her bad choices in men…endorses Joe Biden...”
See:
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/there-taylor-swift-psyop
Again this would seem like a silly spy satire from a 1960’s movie (e.g. The Maltese Bippy – yes, there really was a movie with that title), but today…sadly…everything is possible!
You said it…I’ll give her or her handlers credit…she is a marketing genius…
Given Chuck Barrys assertion that he was a CIA assassin, …anythings possible.
I just ignore her
thats great, but you are probably not the target audience.
Don’t know about the target audience, but the only group that pays much attention to her are the bubble gum snapping female tweeners and skinny girly men with man buns
But that is exactly why they have had her showing up at KC Chiefs games rooting on her co-actor, Travis Kelce, and why they’re salivating over the upcoming Super Bowl coverage.
Taylor Swift has about 280 million Instagram followers while Travis has only 4.5 million (Kamala Harris would need to explain how that would look in a Venn diagram). But the narrative engineers would like nothing better than to meld these two disparate populations. Next, Swift/Kelce will host a massive Joe biden fundraiser. After the election, they’ll break up and Taylor will pen another man-bashing ditty for her Swiftys as her payout.
As for Travis, he’s making about $14 million/yr as a ballplayer and, it has been widely reported that he took around $20 million from Pfizer to promote SARS-CoV-2 mRNA injections. Rather good .
my 38 y/o R.N. Swiftie daughter doesn’t fit your narrative, her football loving husband doesn’t have a man bun
I tried to bring this to people’s attention some time ago. It devolved into a discussion of whether Taylor is talented or whether anyone should be paying any attention at all to her, which was not my point in posting.
Eminem is another one to keep an eye on.
He introduced ‘rap’ music to White kids. You can take that many ways, some cultural marxist.
Nah. Run DMC, the Fat Boys and LL Cool J made it main stream. Eminem was part of the crowd that rolled it over to the “gangsta” approach.
I always considered them HipHop and you had white hiphop like the Beastie Boys, House Of Pain etc.
May Mikey RIP.
Doesn’t like Republicans, reaches a slightly older demographic than Taylor. Nothing wrong with political operatives working with these people, but when the Deep State tries to use Ms. Swift in some manner, they are trying to influence an election.
If theses people in government employ want to campaign for Joe on their own time, they can do so.
Biden has no legal right to have them working for him.
—“Makes millions singing about her bad choices in men…endorses Joe Biden...”–
Pretty much says it all, doesn’t it?
By gosh, she has definitely the chops! I think I’ll use her recommendations for my investment, political, and child rearing strategies because she’s an expert in all facets of life! Besides, she’s as cute as a sponge mop!
This will answer your question:
Okay, so why are so many surprised?
This is what the Globalists do; it’s their M.O..
I’m shocked people are not prepared for this.
Remember “Obama Girl” video in 2008? Very effective in hauling in young male voters and theit girlfriends.
Swift saturation is 2024 version.
‘No stone unturned’should be Leftist mantra.
“Let me tell you more. Another reason Taylor Swift had, I know this just—it was a big news story—because her old manager owned the rights to a lot of her albums. So she then made ‘Taylor’s Version,’ which means she wanted all of her fans to only listen to Taylor’s version because she owns that version, and her prior manager didn’t get any income from it. She got the income from Taylor’s version of her albums, which she owned. The moment Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift started dating, the NFL changed their bio to ‘Taylor’s Version.’”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/ufc-veteran-paige-vanzant-claims-taylor-swift-travis/
The social media influencers had a lot of power in the 2020 election. The steal was aided by the influencers. Swift is an influencer to her groupies called swifties. Many too young to vote but plenty of older women(most swifties are women) too. PTrump and MAGA need good online influencers to enhance truth and communication with his followers and to attract new ones. Hopefully the campaign and Trump team is working on that constantly.
Very true. You are describing the modern way of political advertising especially for the younger people, who really have little to no background into real politics, economics, culture, history etc etc
They are social media zombies
The Hooters – All You Zombies
PSYOPS personified, huh?
Just like described in the article. DoD planning this very thing with her back in 2019.
I keep telling everyone that everything is a PSYOP.
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Bullseye friend. Everything is psyop with them.
I saw an article in Daily Mail yesterday that said 18 percent of voters would be positively moved by a Taylor Swift endorsement. That sounded alarming, but buried at the end of the article was the admission that 17 percent of voters would be negatively moved by a Taylor Swift endorsement. So her effect on voting would be a wash according to this poll, despite the alarming headline.
And the articles, with screaming headlines touting her influence, and burying how its actually minimal, IS the psy-op!
“UFC Veteran Paige VanZant Claims Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Romance as “100% Fake” — Recounts Her Own Experience with NFL Player (VIDEO)”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/ufc-veteran-paige-vanzant-claims-taylor-swift-travis/
Public relationships with other ‘stars’ is another tactic. Jim McGreevey showed us they do political marriages, which I always suspected for Huma Abedin & Carlos Pervert Weiner. One working for the Kingdom of Saud & the other the Globalists. The Two Towers, each one working for one of the towers. Her laptop emails being found on his computer confirmed it for me
I tend to think of PDJT as Mithrandir so don’t get the wrong idea.
What jumps out to me was the ‘political engagement’ of Cory Booker and his Hollywood actress gal-pal, Rosario Dawson.
Remember the timing for that Spartacus announcement, it was when he was going to run for President.
Think of another Rino Spartacus ‘possibly’ doing the same thing, to make himself more attractive for a PDJT appointment & possible Rino Fabian run in 2028 if those election things are still going on.
I’ve always thought that photo of them “holding the globe” was creepy.
Hillary and Bill promoted the union of Anthony and Huma when it was beneficial to them.
Anthony is considerably older than Huma.
When the union became a liability, in Hillary’s eyes, and Huma still would not leave her husband, someone found a fifteen-year-old who was willing to contact a known pervert out of the blue.
That did the trick.
I have my own ideas about who put that girl up to contacting Weiner, and also where they found the girl.
Good observation and speculation, I suspect that they were working for the Two Towers, each a agent for their tower
In a unrelated way same with lewinsky, to use to deflect off the massive ChinaGate treason, and destroy his two-state solution he was working on with rabin who was assassinated.
CFR Speaker Gingrich could have and should have impeached his CFR buddy Clinton for high treason, but instead focused on the Lewisnky Psyop and took attention away from Chinagate
I think Hillary had her make backups. If she did it regularly, there would be scores of copies of Hillary’s mailbox.
Either that, or she just left all her Hillary blackmail files lying around unprotected.
And thus it was kissed when Hillary was destroying all the evidence.
Then when it was no longer being used, it was forgotten and Mr. Danger tapped the unused laptop for his porn, not knowing the contents.
Sundance, time to fire up the high powered flashlight…and recharge its batteries for the purpose of shining light…
A while back, I got wise to this one,cute and sweet as a teen idol…not no more IMHO…IMHO, she is a fraud.
I posted something on one of last nights threads as she triggers deep distrust in me… and I too found the article over at Zero Hedge…it is worth a read.
One of the articles speaks to see how the swift one has denied her publicist money by changing her listings as “Taylor’s Version”…. ZH showed a graph of how her income jumped…Suddenly, ‘follow the money’ has deeper meaning.
Suspicious cat, where art thou?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/ufc-veteran-paige-vanzant-claims-taylor-swift-travis/
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/there-taylor-swift-psyop
PS-I remember the Maltese Bippy…
PS-I remember the Maltese Bippy…
Terrible movie! Maybe ready for MST3K ! 🙂
She can’t sing or dance – it makes no sense.
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And, shouldn’t she have started to date a black football player to garner that demographic for SLO-Joe?
Or is this when she will switch to the NBA for that look?
And then will it be a Latino baseball player?
She could go through the whole sports roster to get votes for her man . . .
But I don’t have a problem with this. This is all at least legal and been in politics for ages. Influencers are real and make tons of money for it.
It’s our job to out this plan by letting those listening know they are being convinced by a vapid, borderline brainless clown who woos teeny boppers to deal with adult topics.
” lipstick on a plastic doll and it will transform into a moneymaker ”
PERFECT DESCRIPTION
( a HOLLOW Vessel that CAN Morph INTO various relationships to FIT HER BUSINESS and Song Lyric requirements )
YOUR Wisdom IS NEEDED by the Younger Folks Ausonius
Many thanks to all who responded!
I certainly did not expect all these responses filling most of the page: very interesting comments!
Miss Swift makes me think of an essay called Isaiah’s Job by American political philosopher Albert Jay Nock.
In the essay, Nock describes the idea of The Remnant: these are the people who remain (hence The Remnant) loyal to God, to their principles, to all that is True.
They are the ones whose books are ignored, whose symphonies, songs, and sonatas are not played, whose statues and paintings are never bought, because the public’s taste is so degraded, debauched, dissipated, and detoured by the accolades given to everything cheap, stupid, and even devilish, that The Kulcheral Garbage has overwhelmed them.
The Remnant refuses to be overwhelmed by The Garbage from the transitory and fake geniuses du jour: The Remnant seeks out the Truth, seeks out and finds the creators of things valuable and true, and despises everythng else.
The Conservative Treehouse is an example of The Remnant: our ideas and beliefs MUST survive any collapse or any attempt to destroy us.
For it is upon The Remnant that the foundation of a better future will be constructed.
ANOTHER READ that i HAVE To MAKE HAPPEN.
SALUTE To You for ” Keeping my Mind Young ” !
The link below is not for the faint of heart or spiritually immature.
Taylor Swift – The Vigilant Citizen
Landmark Covid vaccine injury winEmployers on notice as Tribunal decides employer is liable
https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/cp/141196854
They deserve it. Imagine someone in HR waiting on whether some court gives them the go-ahead to force a needle on somebody because they need an income.
Who would be that sick?
Imagine the medical personnel who would give someone an injection they don’t want.
I think every CEO that mandated it for employment should be personally bankrupted and tried for murder.
“They were only following orders”.
Work UP and DOWN the CHAIN
CDC, HHS, CMS, DoD, DHS, DARPA, …
then
The INDIVIDUAL Business Entities
THE FACT the DoD CONTRACT REQUIRED a VACCINE THAT DID NO HARM; WAS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE
is
CRIMINAL BREACH OF CONTRACT
PG 11 of 35 Para 1.3 Objective Sub Para ( a )
https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/pfizer-inc-covid-19-vaccine-contract.pdf
Another heart wrenching story brought to US by Big Pharma.
“Montana Child Protective Services Medically Kidnapped Teen Girl to Wyoming for Gender Affirming Care, Fully Revokes Parental Custody”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/kolstad.webp
Excerpts:
In a controversial and heart-wrenching case, Montana’s Child Protective Services has been accused of forcibly transporting a 14-year-old girl from her family in Montana to Wyoming for gender transition treatment, leading to a complete revocation of her parents’ custody.
Is the state of Montana willing to open a door and take every troubled child who is angry with their parents, placing them in group home settings and violating their rights as caregivers, providers, and parents, and morally diminishing and destroying our family units?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/montana-child-protective-services-medically-kidnapped-teen-girl/
Kidnapping is a capital crime in some states. There is no such thing as “medical” kidnapping. Apply the law to the perpetrators.
and if the government will not, the parents should.
“Sexual molestation of a Minor Child” is a Felony offense.
No matter who does it, nor why.
This is heart wrenching and complete evil. It’s a spay & neuter program for western peoples. In case you never heard this story from me, here it is.
In my environmental science classes the ‘teachers’ told the class that we should have 1 or no children to ‘save’ the environment. When I brought up immigration and that environmental organizations should be against it, I received deer in the headlights looks and or animosity for bringing up the truth. The environmental organizations have all been hijacked and the movement itself switched over to Climate Nazism.
Two related articles to Big Pharma and their evil deeds.
“How LGBT Nonprofits and Their Billionaire Patrons Are Reshaping the World”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/how-lgbt-nonprofits-and-their-billionaire-patrons-are-reshaping-the-world/
“The Billionaire Family Pushing Synthetic Sex Identities (SSI)The wealthy, powerful, and sometimes very weird Pritzker cousins have set their sights on a new God-like goal: using gender ideology to remake human biology”
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers
Yes, that immigration aspect definitely threw a monkey wrench in things…Not to mention the environmental damage to the southern border. A while back they were camped in the Organ Pipe Cactus National Park and lighting fires…with National Park Resources, infuriating bc I consider AZ my second home.
I was watching a line of illegals today. They were all dressed in what looked like nice new clothes. One guy even had on a beautiful camel colored leather coat. Asylum, nah.
They are changing the names of many birds due to their ‘views’ hundreds of years ago. That no one ever looked up these people’s views from hundreds of years ago, except for them to be offended, does not matter, changing them and thus ‘change’ is the real reason. I’ve seen how they have pushed ‘climate nazism’ as the main cause for just about every environmental ill, when according to the the real science, now mostly pushed to the background or back when I was in college, it was always “human population growth” which is driven exclusively by immigration. They hide that truth because they are using the environmental science/movement to replace Western peoples and destroy Western nations,cultures,economies,societies, environments, & civilization itself (Christianity also)
Habitat loss/habitat degradation is almost always the real reason for wildlife decline. That is directly tied in with immigration, thus they don’t like to bring that up.
Dozens of bird names honoring enslavers and racists will be changed
The American Ornithological Society says it will alter the names of North American birds named after humans, starting with up to 80 of them
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/11/01/bird-names-racism-audubon/
bird names will remain the same to me as long as I live. They cannot change that.
Me also Dixie, it saddens me to see the same things that happened in Rhodesia & South Africa happening here. I really do understand now why many Americans & others joined the Rhodesian military.
“Spay and neuter program for western peoples” is a pretty graphic, accurate and gripping assessment. Let’s spread that everywhere.
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I wonder why the media has not talked with this girl’s mother or given any background details about how the father (and stepmother) had custody (was there a family court case?), and how and why the child’s mother is in Canada, or the development of the child’s apparent severe emotional issues predating all of this. Even the current details, let alone history, of the CPS involvement are strangely sketchy.
Perhaps I’m naive, but I don’t believe that happy, healthy well-adjusted children just suddenly go off the rails for no reason.
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I have seen a lot of cases, too many, where the father finally gets custody of a child after spending $$$ because the mother was 1) alcoholic or drug addiction 2) sexually abused by mothers boyfriend 3) physically or emotionally abused by mother. In this case it sounds as if the mother just dropped out of the child’s life. That alone can lead to mental anguish of being abandoned, even if they had been abused.
Milei Takes Charge: Argentina’s President Fights Socialism with Free Market Reforms (7:04)
John Stossel
30 Jan 2024
First study, vaccinated versus unvaccinated children –
Vaccinated vs. Unvacc’d Children: Guess Who Is Healthier? Mawson Study (deeprootsathome.com)
Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed studies
15 June 2022
https://totalityofevidence.com/vaxxed-vs-unvaxxed-studies/
The authorities around the world refuse to look at their existing public databases and compare the health outcomes of children who are unvaccinated to those who are vaccinated, or even delayed vaccinated. Australia won’t do it. The CDC won’t do it.
Since no childhood vaccine trial has used a placebo control, and clinical trial follow up only happens for a few days to rarely a month, the authorities have no definitive safety data. The mantra of “safe and effective” is mere trust in the authorities, when freedom of information requests ask for proof, the likes of CDC and HHS can’t find any.
Retrospective studies (where data can be sourced) are revealing alarming truths about the debilitating health outcomes in vaccinated children, compared to the unvaccinated children or even children where vaccination has been delayed.
(snip)
Following is an attempt to highlight some of the studies the authorities don’t want to do!
1. Dr Paul Thomas study – 2020(snip)
2. Dr Brian Hooker’s study – 2020
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3. Health outcomes of the COVID-19 unvaccinated “control group” – 2022
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4. Homeschool Pilot study – 2017
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5. DTP vaccine associated with 5 x higher mortality – 2018
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6. ONLY one vaccine study has used a true placebo control
(snip)
7. Vax-Unvax: Let the Science Speak with Prof Brian Hooker, Ph.D – 2023
(snip)
Additional Studies, Interviews and Articles
(snip)
Have vaccines saved millions of lives?
Historical snapshot of vaccine development and licensure
(snip)
Baseline cases vs post vax cases
(snip)
A “Case” definition can make all the difference
(snip)
Childhood Vaccine Schedule
(snip)
Last updated on 8 October 2023
Nice!
They have been sent on to a couple of gun appreciating relatives.
Cheers! 🏴🏴🏴
Excellent, Dekester!
Have a good one 👍🏻
Cheers Bet & Dekester!
Making me smile here, Colkitto 😌….lovely..
Especially the liberal women that have recently purchased guns.
“So who’s buying? Gun owners today reflect a diverse community. African Americans continue buying firearms in large numbers, especially African American women who want to protect themselves and their children from criminal violence.”
“Still one of the most significant groups changing their beliefs about gun ownership and heading out to purchase firearms, including significant numbers of first-time buyers, are Jewish Americans. There is no shortage of news coverage reporting on Jewish Americans buying firearms since the October 7 Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel. CNN, Fox News, NBC News, the New York Post and many others have noted the buying surge.”
https://www.nssf.org/articles/2023-record-year-for-firearms-2024-looming-large/
And now the absurd Rep Jamie Raskin and a fellow Constitution ignoramus are presenting legislation to BAN MILITIAS.
I believe it will see the bottom of a trash bin before it ever sees the light of day.
Boy oh BOY…they never give up, do they??
My go to:
“That stuff? I got that a long time ago.”
LOL
Hahahahaha!!!! Whatever works 😎
🤔
Just a thought…
The View is still on television, and still has an audience.
Taylor Swift is 30 something and even with her bright red signature lipstick is looking a little “worn.”
If these people hold enough clout with enough people to carry a Presidential election, the US is in a state of decline that cannot be reversed.
I still think election fraud is the go to for the Uniparty.
Always the plan.
She’s disgusting, but millions of women worship her like their golden idol and will do her bidding.
Taylor said she’s a Christian that’s why she supports abortion – she’s already using her platform for politics.
That abortion is now generally accepted/considered healthcare for women is probably the greatest “pretending” of all that Sundance has posted about that needed stopping!!! In truth abortion is not healthcare, has nothing to do with a women’s health, it’s the murder of an unborn child!!! The DNA of unborn child is known within 7 weeks! Around 5-6 weeks the beating heart of unborn child can be detected! So the stopping of a beating heart and the destruction of DNA that no one else in the world has is the murder of the unborn and yet many Christians “pretend” it to be women’s healthcare just like Taylor Swift!!! That’s just the “truth” no pretending! God help us!!! Hosanna!!!
They can now determine the baby’s sex at 6 weeks with a simple blood test. I did not know that until my daughter became pregnant. I was excited for us but appalled at the ramifications, meaning it’s now easier to abort a child because of its sex.
It’s modern day child sacrifice to Moloch,Baal etc
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Some hacker should input pictures of aborted babies on her screen behind her at performances.
Some journalist should ask Travis how he would feel if she aborted their baby in order to continue ‘the show’.
Some relative should ask Donna, Jason, and his wife if they agree that Taylor should absolutely not be a parent such that they would advocate for their own family to be cut down by her.
Someone should also ask her if she personally knows anyone that has had an abortion. Most women that have had one feel some type of remorse.
Two deaths, not one, T…
Taylor Swift, the country girl from Tennessee (which voted for Trump by a margin of 61% to 35%), urges people to vote Democrat.
So, it won’t work in this state, Tennessee. Other states?? Who knows.
She Pennsylvanian. Moved here to be I. Nashville for her music. Her TN roots just don’t exist.
The United States will continue to fund the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) despite announcing a temporary pause in funding, according to a January 27 report. In light of allegations that 12 UNRWA employees participated in Hamas’s October 7 attack on Israel, the State Department announced on January 26 that it will “temporarily pause additional funding” to the agency. However, a State Department spokesperson later clarified that funding committed before January 24 will “remain in effect.” Washington had already committed $51 million to UNRWA for 2024 prior to this date.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/01/29/u-s-funding-to-unrwa-still-flowing/
they already got the benefit of the press release yesterday, true or not.
Disgusting. CA once again proves that they favor criminals over victims. This man brutally killed a three year old because the little boy let a dog in the house. Will Gavin Newsom, the presidential hopeful, let this ruling stand?
“Man Who Brutally Beat Tot to Death Gets Parole: “I’m no longer the monster that I used to be””
Goodman killed 3-year-old Elijah Sanderson in December 2000, in part by repeatedly swinging the boy by his wrist into a wall. The child had upwards of 50 bruises all over his body. He also had broken bones, numerous traumatic injuries and “pulverized” organs, according to Fox News.
https://www.crimeonline.com/2024/01/28/man-who-brutally-beat-to-to-death-gets-parole-im-no-longer-the-monster-that-i-used-to-be/
Here he is.
Guess why he got off.
https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2341644/patrick-goodman.webp?w=790&f=37c15580b5d5ad86d779cf810a254dd0
Yes. I didn’t put that aspect into my previous comment. It seems they are trying to let as many black men and women out of prison as they can, regardless of their heinous crimes.
Recently a repeat child rapist was let out early from a lifetime sentence . Not long after he was released, he raped another child.
That guys heinous actions will happen again. That kind of rage that would “ break bones and pulverize the organs” of a three year old child does not go away.
Because of the size of his head?
If he was really no longer a monster he’d serve his full sentence without seeking parole (the system might still parole him anyway, but if you’re guilty and sorry for it, you accept your full just punishment).
Bless-ed little boy…..
I feel sick….
Yes Betsy, me too. The people that let him out should be held liable for what comes next.
The terror that child must have felt…and worse., T…
I can feel my tears starting….
This Project 2025 mentioned above is interesting. Heritage is leading it, with may other groups. They want to start getting the next administration together and trained now and are accepting applications. There is literally an “apply” button on the web site.
Hat tip to LafnH20 for these links:
https://www.project2025.org/
Interview with Heritage’s Derrick Morgan about it (minutes 1 to 16):
https://rumble.com/v425n1x-jtn-heritage-foundation-special-report-presidential-transition-project.html
Per Bibi Netanyahu:
“I hear statements about all kinds of deals, so I want to clarify: We will not end this war with less than the achievement of all our goals and that means the elimination of Hamas, the return of all our hostages, and a promise that Gaza will no longer pose a threat to Israel. We will not remove the IDF from the Gaza Strip, and we will not release thousands of terrorists! None of this will happen. What will happen? Absolute victory.”
LIVE:
U.S. House of Representatives
Full Committee Markup
Homeland Security Committee
Full Committee Markup: H. Res. 863
Full Info at this site:
House Homeland Security Committee markup of articles of impeachment against DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas. The Committee will mark up H. Res. 863, which can be read here. House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Mark E. Green, MD (R-TN) will be offering an amendment in the nature of a substitute to H. Res. 863, which can be read here.
TIME: 10:00 AM ET
LOCATION: 310 Cannon House Office Building. The markup will also be live streamed here.
https://homeland.house.gov/hearing/full-committee-markup-of-articles-of-impeachment-against-dhs-secretary-mayorkas/
Dem narrative: Trump and the Republicans are blocking Biden’s efforts to close the Border
Our response should be…you all held both chambers of Congress and the Presidency and you chose to do nothing.
Why they chose to nothing – their constituents would have been outraged about allowing 1.8 million illegals into the US every year.
Its the same for the abortion issue – their constituents would be outraged to know a woman could abort a 40 week old child.
Player collapses and dies at high school basketball game, Illinois officials say
https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article284793061.html
years ago, I took care of a kid in the ICU, 16, after he collapsed playing basketball in IL…ended up on a transplant list…late 90’s. He did not make it. Very sad…
It has something to do with protecting the established historical lies, and their pysop. “Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past”
“Earlier this month, newly revised regulations surrounding the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (Nagpra) went into effect, mandating that museums and other institutions obtain consent from tribes in order to showcase or research human remains or cultural items. The new guidelines also give institutions five years to prepare all human remains and related funerary objects for repatriation while giving more authority to tribes throughout the process.”
New York museum to close halls featuring Native American artifacts
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/jan/27/new-yorks-natural-history-museum-to-close-halls-featuring-native-american-artifacts
There have been several intact skeletons found in and around Mammoth Cave National Park that have been dated to be 15K years old. It has been by firm belief that if DNA comparisons were done on these ( the tribes who control these skeletons have been adamant in their refusal of this testing) the tests would prove that these skeletons would show little if any matches to any of the recent tribes that control them
Ty Booger and that is exactly why they created the native American Graves Protection Reparation Act, to continue the lies they have established. My local museum had people who came through looking for out of place artifacts that would contradict/expose their lies. I have read in many books about non-American Indians here long ago.
I know some of this from my Celtic ancestors. I’m not saying they are correct but the Mormons believe Lost Tribes of Israel were here long ago.
i know you have a specific thing you are saying… but it just reminds me of the fascination, on a personal level, i have with recent discoveries in the last 10 years or so. it gets so little attention anymore because our society has been pushed so far away from ACTUAL science.
there are a lot of human remains now being dated as far back as 20-25K years, and some of them really far south, which calls into question the theory of the land bridge and definitely goes pre-ice age.
they have found many non-native remains (not just scandinavian) going back a looong time in a few places, and some of the DNA of south american natives are now being tied to south pacific more than those coming over from northern asia, if thats even what happened.
and some of the pac islands are being tied together, even though there is virtually no chance they had the technology (post ice age, at least) to make that trek across thousands of miles of ocean.
some of the other arch remains of buildings are now being positively dated pre-ice age as well. in going over the jungles, including as far south as the amazon, with the ground-penetrating radar, they now see that some of the pre-european kingdoms were far larger than they knew, and some larger than the Mayans died out thousands of years before western exploration began. huge cities buried under lots of dirt and trees for thousands of years before we thought anyone was ever there.
just crazy – i love that there is so much that remains a mystery about us as a people. now back to our regularly scheduled discussions. 😉
You are correct, and the purpose for keeping it a mystery is to keep the fabrication of Europeans stole this land from the Indians alive.
that may be the motive, and it fits the personality of these little fascists to apply anti-science to achieve political goals.
that said, letting the science go where it leads would not change most of the facts on the ground or the good, the bad, and the ugly of history. a far technologically and culturally superior force, with far larger numbers, met a far smaller one, and the result was inevitable. i find it deeply irrelevant.
what does it ultimately matter to you if there was some euro DNA here or if it was far more mixed and matched than we understand? if it goes back as far as is now being posited, the notion of a “european” doesn’t even exist anyway.
Academics with agendas started re-writing history in the 60’s.
How else could they divide and conquer the greatest government in history, with Marxism.
X marks the spot friend! And you are talking about Cultural Marxism, infiltration of all the sciences, though Boaz was a pre-frankfurt school cultural marxist. At the ned of the raiders of the lost ark movie always loved the scene of all the hidden artifacts being kept from public awareness.
History AND economics.
I have had a long interest in archeology and been to many places to see for myself these things talked about. I am also keenly interested in Amerindian & Celtic folklore & history, which tells many things the Orwellians want hidden, thus their NAGPRA.
1of10-Ice Age Columbus-Who Where The First Americans
I love discovery + channel.
One of my favorites I listen to working jigsaw puzzles–Ancient Aliens, several seasons.
Connections, connections, connections; not what you think.
And for interesting ideas to mix it up a bit…..”The Great Flood” occurred about 4500 years ago…
If, indeed every so often the earth “flips” and the massive ICE at the poles is moved to the hot equator,…the ice is going to melt, and the oceans WILL rise, and both people at the time, and archeological record viewed later will see it as a “flood”.
Pole shifts
Muley,
Suggest reading a book titled “The HAB Theory” by allen w. Eckart which, while written as entertaining fiction IS based on a true and valid theory that the earth “flips” every so often, with the poles moving to the equator.
In it, the author discusses the many artifacts stuck in back rooms if Natural History museums, because they directly contradict current “established science” .
I think you would enjoy it.
I read it dutch and am a big Eckert fan.
Another one shows himself, and I get to save more money.
I love when these people out themselves.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/01/30/jon-hamm-endorses-adam-schiff-in-new-fundraising-email/
I don’t understand how the Biden administration can say that the outlook for the U.S. economy is positive when the number of Americans that are homeless has been increasing at the fastest pace ever recorded.
Re jj Carroll / crazy Maddox interview- Saw one reader comment – she is the white Twaney Brawley – boy did that being back ancient memories (1987 – even before Duke lacrosse case ) – Fake News just getting started then, Al Sharpton climb to national attention….A fake drama ….
Al “Fecal Matter” Sharpton.
He’s an FBI ‘snitch’ and a racial agitator for the Globalists. An old trick, create divisions. They do not like homogeneous nations because its harder to sow divisions, thus “multiculturalism” “Immigration” etc
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So he is talking about Europe. That is because the U.S. is the most ethnic diverse country on our planet. Yet the leftist in our country continue to complain about diversity, equity, and inclusion.
We have more minorities throughout our society-sports, government, medical, media, entertainment, education, etc than any other country. And we continues to grow in a diverse and inclusive culture.
Can anyone say the same about any other country-Mexico, Italy, India, Germany Spain, UK, etc, etc.
And yet we continue to allow divisive rhetoric and hatred flow in our country by destroying our heritage, Constitution.
Multicultural nations never last long which is a hint to why they are doing this. What they did in Yugoslavia is a test run and a study in how they do it.
You of course are 100% correct sir.
Louis Farrakhan did him some FBI snitching also (Jeff Fort, El Ruken, Lybia Arms thing).
My commonsense bias tells me the stock market should be going down and not up. Nothing about the stock market has to do with my common sense when it comes to a rigged manipulated stock market controlled by Globalist democrats.
From my standpoint it is not knowing about the stock market. It is about my making money in the stock market. It is why I go by technical indicators and go with the flow. It is I go about what I “see” and not what I “believe”.
IMO that is a good suggestion.
Our stock exposure is a small part of our “ net financial worth”
We are Canadian and keep our portfolio to a half dozen or so stocks that have increased or maintained their record of dividend payments for multiple decades.
What is “ odd” is that several are paying over 6% some over 7%.
Their growth is anaemic and a “ tumble” appears to be inevitable.
Cheers, and I appreciate your perspective.
Absolutely agree.
Now the trick is to understand the narrative that is being projected, and when the market needs to “adjust” to support that narrative.
I’m expecting the downturn is scheduled for after the election so it can be blamed on President Trump.
If a yet-to-be-determined Dem wins, the crash and burn can easily be blamed on Biden’s diminished capacity and “global forces beyond his control.”
Actually, and this is purely a gut feel on my part, I think the Uniparty is expecting President Trump to win and rather than attempt to steal the election they are setting up to dump a market crash, migrant fed insurrection, virus X, and hot zones in the Middle East and Asia on PT.
Recent comments from the likes of Jamie Dimon and other prominent D’s basically saying PT’s policies were not bad make me think the approved message is “let Trump win.” Congressional races will still be controlled to ensure a RINO/DEM majority in House and Senate will stymie our President once again and impeachment will be back on the table.
I’m sure PT and his team see the writing on the wall, and are planning work arounds to accomplish as much as possible. Forewarned is fore armed.
buy on the rumor, sell on the news?
I think Trump is going to go for the throat in regard to the treasonous. They know it and it explains their panic and desperation.
They have viciously gone after Trump because they never want a Trump again. The same in regard to Trump. Trump will go after them in a way there will never be a THEM again.
I also agree they are, at a minimum laying the groundwork for another “Insurance plan” for in case PDJT is declared the winner.
After all, are TPTB really concerned that a Presudent Biden, Harris, Gavin, michelle, Nikki or RON would unilaterally withdraw from NATO without Congressional approval?
There are all sorts of ways in which they are attempting to restrict and limit to potential power and authority of PDJT should he reenter the Oval.
The thing is, the POWER of the Presidency, beyond its Constitutionally defined limits, expands or contracts with the popular support of the President.
Hence the need for a MANDATE; IF the President has a mandate, he can accomplish a great deal, with no populat support he is neutered.
The major reason why our troops like the 101st which is in Syria ‘illegally” is for the following. They want to suck us into their war plans for a WWIII “Reset”. These Globalist Lobbyist Neocons never got to finish their 7 nations plans and after PDJT & MAGA cleared them out, are now with the illegitimate Biden regime who is doing their warmongering. They are big supporters of their puppet Nimrada whose platform is nothing.
They just mess with us 24/7 with their BS and lies….
First it was pallets of gold and cash delivered in the night
America Is Subsidizing Iran’s Fight Against AmericaIran has been able to boost its oil production to a five-year high and earn billions of dollars — despite American sanctions supposed to target its oil industry.
https://archive.is/mWCbD#selection-4543.0-4549.161
I think we are carrying this forgiveness BS too far.
We seem to confuse forgiveness with a reduction of consequences.
Never God’s intention, IMO.
https://www.crimeonline.com/2024/01/28/man-who-brutally-beat-to-to-death-gets-parole-im-no-longer-the-monster-that-i-used-to-be/
forgiving is different than forgetting.
This Story from the 3rd Century Will Sound Quite Familiar to You – Activist Post
Einstein used to say that World War 4 would be fought with ‘sticks and stones’.
Can anyone make out what the interviewer said at about the 21 second mark?
It sounds to me like Bobby was talking about how the campaign had reached out previously, but the article claims he was asked about 2024.
Donald Trump Running Mate Update as RFK Jr Responds to Speculation
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has claimed people from Donald Trump‘s team had “reached out” to him about possibly being the Republican presidential frontrunner’s 2024 running mate, should he secure the GOP nomination, but insisted “I would not take that job.”
Kennedy Jr., a noted vaccine sceptic who was running for the Democratic presidential nomination before switching to standing as an independent, made the comments during an interview with network NewsNation.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-running-mate-update-rfk-jr-responds-speculation-1865123
I think of this just like I do the Taylor Swift garbage. Sone one needs publicity.
Ilhan Omar didn’t just break her oath of office. She broke her oath of American citizenship.
She should be expelled and deported.
And her family should go with her. Can’t happen soon enough.
Including her husband,…SLAP!….her brother,….SLAP!…..her husband,….slap!
Its chinatown,…er little Somalia,..Jake.
i BELIEVE THERE ARE NUMEROUS Incidents WHERE she BROKE HER Contract to ENTER The
UNITED STATES
let ALONE
Become a NATURALIZED CITIZEN and THEN Get ELECTED
to The UNITED STATES HOUSE of REPRESENTATIVES !
1) FATHER was a Colonel FOR Siad Barre -> Marxist–Leninist
2) NUMEROUS QUESTIONS on marriages
ie.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/15/fbi-dodged-ilhan-omar-bro-wed-probe-devine/
Riley Gaines, Taylor Silverman blast Rip Curl Women for ad boosting trans surfer after dropping Bethany Hamilton as brand ambassador
Hamilton, who became a notable surfer after surving a shark attack which left her with one arm, was dropped from the iconic Australian brand after sharing a simple stance: men should not be allowed to compete in women’s sports.
Rip Curl has since hired transgender biological male Sasha Jane Lowerson, 44, to model its women’s surf apparel. In an ad, they quoted Lowerson and praised Lowerson as well. An accompanying video showed the male surfer performing well in the surf.
“Meet Sasha,” Rip Curl Women gushed, “a West Australian waterwoman who loves the freedom found in surfing, disconnecting from the mainstream, and the feeling of dancing on constantly changing waves. When we were adventuring through Western Australia recently, we were keen to know what The Search means to the surfers who crossed our paths. These surfers live on a wild stretch of coast where there’s always a new wave or campsite just a little further down the road or off the beaten track. It’s a state of mind, always being ready to try something new, curious to seek out knowledge and learn the rules – and break them.”
https://thepostmillennial.com/riley-gaines-taylor-silverman-blast-rip-curl-women-for-ad-boosting-trans-surfer-after-dropping-bethany-hamilton-as-brand-ambassador
Shameful in every way. Everybody knows Bethany and her experience. There is no better woman to model surfing and the surfer’s life than her.
An insult to women, showing that big ugly man in a woman’s swimsuit.
I predict Rip Curl is going to go broke.
Why do they even do this? If they hate female athletes so much why did they make women’s athletic wear in the first place?
Virtue Signaling.
So-called Social Media = Directly Harmful; Should Be Banned
Karl Denninger
Why was Lindsey Graham’s account unrestricted? He is calling, directly, for actual physical violence against the people of another nation and this is allegedly against Twitter’s rules.
Massie asked what people would say to this, and my response is what got me a 12 hour stay in Twitmo with a demand that I remove my post yet, as I write this, Lindsey’s remains on the platform and he was not suspended.
Note that I did not advocate or call for violence. I said I would vote for it against the person who has policy power to cause direct and actual violence to occur to many, many more than one person.
That is no more advocacy than it would be for me to say I would vote for a politician who says he will go to war.
I chose my words very deliberately and carefully. I intentionally stated that I would vote for a policy (whether in a legislative capacity were I ever to hold one) or for a politician who says he will do something, in this case engage in said violence. I am not glorifying it or advocating it. I am stating I will vote for it which is protected political speech and in fact we have a President in office right now who is funding an actual real, no-bullshit shooting war between Ukraine and Russia, so my statement is no more “advocacy” than is one that would vote for Biden because he (obviously) supports prosecuting said war.
Lindsey Graham holds an actual policy position and advocated, publicly, for actual physical violence.
His account was not restricted for advocating ACTUAL violence while mine was for stating I would VOTE for such a policy — and yes, I reported Lindsey’s tweet.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=250607
I care not a bit about twits, and would vote for someone advocating terrible fate for little lindsey,…so I guess that makes me a bad person,….
AND I DON’T CARE!
I TOLD YOU SO (DIE AGAIN)
Karl Denninger
Here it is folks:
“The latest revelation is especially damning: the plane that sparked a new round of questions over Boeing’s ability to ensure its jets’ safety left the factory without the door plug bolts installed. They weren’t just loose — as door plug bolts on other aircraft were found to be upon mandatory post-incident inspections — they weren’t there.
According to the Wall Street Journal, the bolts on the jet operating Alaska 1282 “appear to have been missing when the plane left Boeing’s factory” after “the plane maker’s employees failed to put back the bolts when they reinstalled a 737 MAX 9 plug door after opening or removing it during production.”
I told you that as soon as the pictures showed up of the aperture because the means by which it was secured was obvious.
There was no damage to the pins in the frame.
It is not possible for the door to rise and clear the stop pads with those bolts in, and the installation of the other one pictured clearly showed castellated nuts so even if the bolts were not properly torqued it was physically impossible for them to back off and fall out if the pins or safety wire were there.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=250603
somebody
” PENCIL WHIPPED ”
the LINE in the MAINTENANCE LOGBOOK
for
INSTALLATION of THE BOLTS
AND
Then THE QA CHECK !
( let ALONE during the Re-Installation of the INTERIOR PANELS and the CHANCE to CATCH the ERROR ! )
Conclusion: Boeing is experiencing sabotage from within.
Representative Bryan Richey has introduced a bill in the Tennessee House dealing with the transportation of illegal aliens into the state of Tennessee and applicable fines for doing so.
I notice the words ‘increase penalties’
Once again, the solution to lawbreaking and failure of law enforcement is to assume a new law won’t be broken and will be enforced.
So, the State of Texas, and Governor Abbott would potentially be fined, by the State of Tennessee, for transporting illegal invaders from Texas, to Tennessee,….yes?
President Trump’s Abraham Accords were an unprecedented accomplishment in the pursuit of Middle East peace, yet they continue to go unrecognized by the Nobel Peace Prize Committee.
I am honored to nominate Donald Trump today for the Nobel Peace Prize for his tireless efforts to bring peace to the Middle East.
Note from last night: I watched the NFL game and do not recall seeing ONE pharma commercial. They typically are ALL of them, or close to all. Is somone getting nervous?
This is one of the craziest things I’ve ever read.
First, the FAA gave secret code words to students in the Black Caucus of Federal Aviation Employees to put in their resume that would skip them to the front of the line.
In another instance of the signals to go to the front of the line was to say the high school class you received your lowest grades in was “Science.”
Yes, they literally shot you to the front of the line if you said your worst grades were in Science.
Novel J6 Change of Venue Request
Fischer uses data on media saturation and media consumption in the D.C. market as a basis for his arguments. These were also some of the arguments used in Ruby Freeman et al. v. Rudolph W. Giuliani. Fischer’s lawsuit states:
“As will be demonstrated below, Fischer will establish by the latest available data that 1) the saturation of J6 coverage by media outlets in this District dwarfs that of any other District in the United States, 2) that residents of the District consume more J6 media stories than any other federal district in the United States, and 3) that implicit/inherent bias in this District is more pronounced on this issue due to the disproportionate exposure and consumption of media concerning the events of Jan. 6.”
Fischer’s motion to change venue uses Meltwater’s analysis of the D.C. media market to prove jurors in the District have been inundated with negative and biased messaging about the J6 protests.
The Meltwater study looked at “a total of 1,494,847 unique media mentions” to show that media narratives in D.C. have an extraordinary influence on individuals concerning Jan. 6 compared to other markets. Data also show search terms related to Jan. 6 are much more prevalent and prominent in the D.C. market than in other U.S. cities.
htt ps: //ww w.uncov erdc. com/2024/01/29/government-opposes-aj-fischers-novel-j6-change-of-venue-request
Wouldn’t be so much of a problem if the “media” referred to weren’t the State Propagandists.
For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences.
But on July 2 (2013, hmm who was prez?), that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January.
The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda
htt ps:/ / foreign policy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/
For over sixty years, the Smith–Mundt Act prohibited the U.S. Department of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) from disseminating government-produced programming within the United States over fears that these agencies would “propagandize” the American people. However, in 2013, Congress abolished the domestic dissemination ban, which has led to a heated debate about the role of the federal government in free public discourse. Although the 2013 repeal of the domestic dissemination ban promotes greater government transparency and may help counter anti-American sentiment at home, it also gives the federal government great power to covertly influence public opinion. To curb the potential harm of surreptitious government propaganda, while also preserving the benefits of repeal, this Note advocates for requiring the State Department and the BBG to clearly attribute any government-produced programming these agencies disseminate within the United States.
ht tps: //no rthwesternlawreview.org/issues/apple-pie-propaganda-the-smith-mundt-act-before-and-after-the-repeal-of-the-domestic-dissemination-ban/
Operation Mockingbird
A good read: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/01/lefts-lawfare-will-destroy-american-democracy/
What are PDJT’s chances of successfully appealing to the Supreme Court all these predetermined verdicts?
I don’t see how they can allow making a law to prosecute a particular individual for an old old allegation with no evidence to back it up, to stand.
Welcome to NYC……….
The lab leak cover up is probably the best example of this amalgam. There were many different incentives but they all went in the same direction:
-don’t upset China
-don’t give Trump a win
-protect Fauci/DC bureaucracy
-maintain virologist funding
-conceal bioweapons “research”
They STILL won’t quit pushing the mRNAs
A New York Times opinion piece this weekend shows how completely public health bureaucrats and the doctors who love them have lost the plot
ALEX BERENSON
1/29/2024
Dr. Danielle Ofri wants you to take more mRNA jabs.
She doesn’t understand why you won’t.
Is she mad? No, she’s not mad, people, she’s not the kind of doctor who gets mad. She’s the caring, compassionate kind of doctor. Says so right on her Web page, she’s passionate “about the doctor–patient relationship and bringing humanity back to healthcare.”
So Dr. Ofri isn’t mad, she’s sad. Sad for you for not listening to her.
After all, the mRNA jabs are a miracle! Pfizer agrees. The Surgeon General agrees. Even Travis Kelce agrees, and he’s about to play in the Super Bowl. Again.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/they-still-wont-quit-pushing-the
Israeli forces disguised as women raid West Bank hospital
Three militants were killed in the incident, including one accused of plotting an assault inspired by the October 7 Hamas attack
Israeli commandos, some disguised as civilian Palestinian women and medics, conducted a raid on a hospital in the occupied West Bank on Tuesday, officials have said. Three people died in the operation, including one accused by Israel of plotting an imminent attack.
Israel claimed that the three people killed in the raid were Palestinian militants who had been using the hospital as a hideout. One of the deceased men, identified by the military as Mohammed Jalamneh, had been planning “a raid inspired by the October 7 massacre,” Israeli officials said.
So here’s Hamas’ response, try to follow along:
Hamas said one of those killed in the hospital was a member of the group, while paramilitary faction Islamic Jihad claimed the other two people who died were members of the organization, adding they were brothers.
The Palestinian Authority’s Health Ministry described Tuesday’s attack as a “new massacre inside hospitals” by Israel
Merrick Garland will be undergoing a surgical procedure, leaving Deputy AG, Lisa Monaco as acting AG.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/29/merrick-garland-to-transfer-power-during-back-surgery-00138461
” COVER ” has Been REMOVED.
Merrick Garland ” the Beard ” for LISA MONACO…
( amazing HOW MANY of the SENIOR PERSONNEL in the Admin ARE Having ” surgeries “… )
Wouldn’t be surprised by some “complications” that cause him to be out of commission for longer than expected.
He has a point….and don’t think other countries haven’t taken note of it.
Currency,…in order to BE Currency, MUST have confidence.
Just as Trudope/Freelands actions, even though reversed w/in 24 hrs. undermined confidence, yes the actions of the U.S. irreparably damaged CONFIDENCE in U.S. Treasuries, how could they NOT?