Team Ron DeSantis made a desperate effort to accuse Donald Trump of supporting Hezbollah and trying to out-Israel Nikki Haley, they failed miserably. At this point the pathetic campaign of the Florida Governor has been reduced to a small supportive segment of rich, affluent, white men over 50; in essence, the professional republican donor class; and that’s it.
President Trump leads the field with almost 60% support and no other candidates reaching double digits.
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[…] In the 2024 Republican primary, Trump holds his base of support since last month at 59%. No other candidate reaches double digits at the national level: 8% support Haley, 8% DeSantis, 4% Chris Christie, 3% Mike Pence, and 3% Ramaswamy. Ten percent are undecided. Since last month, DeSantis’ and Ramaswamy’s support decreased four points from 12% and 7%, respectively, while Haley’s support increased five points nationally from 3% to 8%. (link)
Doughboy Meatball goes splat.
#MAGA you weasels. Do you hear us?????
Wolverines!
I read an article pitching DeSantis yesterday and it made some good points but it in no way overcame even 10% of the negative gorilla in the room. Namely all his backing is GOP establishment. They allow him to do a few good social things and bring home American travelers in Israel but he’ll never be allowed to do the foreign policy changes, economic nationalism or take on the swamp the way Trump can. Nice try Ronnie but you saddled the wrong horse.
Every time I read an article about DeSanctus, I see his falseness on display. DeSantis made an entire campaign out of how anti-LGBTQ he was and mocking Trump’s views on the issue, and here we have this….
“I want to say very clearly that my husband and I (gay couple) are significant supporters of [DeSasntis] and all his policies,” Rabois said as recently as three months ago, adding he and Helberg “think what he’s doing in Florida is the recipe that should be copied in every state – period, without exception.”
https://thenationalpulse.com/2023/10/18/more-desantis-donors-drop-shift-support-to-nikki-haley/
Pfft!!
Exactly right. He is allowed to fight the gay mafia as much as he wants. Foreign and domestic policy that really means something, is not permitted.
The Buckaroo still has his little high heeled cowboy boots.
All cowboy boots have heels on them. It so when you’re riding your foot doesn’t ship and get caught in the stirrup. Why this was a dig never made any sense unless the only reason he wears boots is to get the lift. But some people just like cowboy boots.
https://defector.com/is-ron-desantis-wearing-hidden-platform-heels-inside-his-stupid-ugly-boots-an-investigation
Only real cowboys need to wear riding heels. Roper heels work just fine for everyone else.
Just an opinion from a guy who actually rides horses–and won’t wear a riding heel in public.
“…bring home American travelers in Israel… ” Nope, a Florida – based NGO brought those people back home, Soy Boy RD just glommed onto their effort.
What’s the deal with
wolverines?
See the original RED DAWN. It’s the CTH/MAGA battle cry.
Can you imagine the poll numbers after the next GOP debate debacle in Miami?
This race has long been over, but now more than ever! MAGA
Exactly! The Miami debate will be a farce.
Not one of these third or fourth tier candidates in the GOP have a prayer of winning and yet they still refuse to withdraw from the race and support President Trump. None are worthy for VP on the ticket.
Campaigning must be lucrative; however, I believe it will be the end of many political careers.
MAGA 2024!
Not for Judas Pence he is $650K in debt.
If true, GOOD!
What???
There’s another GOP debate?
And here I thought they were done!
I guess I got confused with Biden’s riproaring campaign…
“a small supportive segment of rich, affluent, white men over 50”. Perfectly describes most of the Republicans in Congress who are owned by multinational corporations and other special interests. We need a second party.
I think it will be easier and faster to just finish cleaning out the rats nest of the GOP.
When “republicans” vote on the record, 25 of them vote against Jim Jordan for speaker. When the same “republicans” vote off the record, 112 vote against Jim Jordan for speaker. That means there are at least 87 gutless, conniving, devious, back-stabbing “republican weasels” in the house, plus 25 democrats who self identify as “republicans” to get elected. Together they make up more than half of the entire “republican” caucus in the house. There isn’t a broom big enough on the planet to clean out that rats nest. A second party is the way, and the sooner the better.
A second party is not the way. The precinct strategy is the only way to remove the uniparty Republicans. I am sorry, but my guess is that you are not willing to help. Talk is cheap.
Take a flamethrower to that house !!!!!
I have always said our electeds need uniforms like the race car drivers wear so we will know who they are working for.
RFK Jr’s Presidential Bid Hinges On Ballot Access | ZeroHedge
However, all the public support in the world will mean nothing unless RFK Jr can overcome a major hurdle for any independent candidate: getting his name on the ballot in 50 states and the District of Columbia.
There’s more to that feat than gathering signatures. “It takes significant expertise to navigate specific rules for every state and the requirements needed before signatures can even begin to be collected — and then to beat back the legal challenges that will almost certainly follow,” writes Politico’s Brittany Gibson.
Time is a big factor, and one that makes the ballot challenge all the more daunting for Kennedy’s campaign, given his relatively late start. Consider that the nascent No Labels party has been at it for two years says it will complete the process for 28 states by New Year’s, with a goal of hitting 50 for the election.
Utah’s deadline comes first, and in less than three months — on January 6. “I wondered if they had thought it all through before making the switch over,” ballot access expert Michael Arno tells Politico.
Signature requirements vary wildly: Kennedy has to get 200,000 signatures in California but a mere 275 in Tennessee. To be on the safe side, campaigns need to exceed those targets so they still qualify after signatures are scrutinized. Many states add an extra level of complexity by requiring that the group of people signing a ballot petition represent various parts of the state to a stipulated extent.
There’s also a need to hire signature collectors, with the cost typically coming in between $7 and $10 per autograph. Those collectors need thick skin, as they’re prone to being confronted by party loyalists angered over an independent’s potential “spoiler” role.
To defend their duopoly, Democratic and Republican parties each routinely file legal challenges against independent candidates, and Kennedy’s campaign is surely bracing for legal battles over the coming months.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rfk-jrs-presidential-bid-hinges-ballot-access
After Perot, both wings of the Uniparty worked to make it much harder, something those blithely saying PDJT should just run as an Indie, fail to take into account.
“Easiest” way is to get one of the already existing “other parties” to take you as their candidate, but IMHO, the Uniparty covered that route as well, with the R party actually controlling the Libertarians, and the D party controlling the Green party.
I could see Jr. getting on some State ballots as the Green party candidate, others as the Libertarian party candidate, and if he doesn’t seem to have that much difficulty, that will be yet another “tell” that he is NOT really anti-estab, its a put up job,…not that we NEED any more such “tells”.
Bring back Lyndon LaRouche, just for giggles
I always found it hard to giggle while vomiting
Or a Soupy Sales – Pat Paulsen ticket…😏😉😁😂
I was around in the Perot days, and knew some of the guys working on getting him authorized in all 50 states, and they that you would not believe the shenanigans, bullying, illegal crap, threats, etc that went on, PLUS the time and money.
I’m sure it’s much worse now.
Anyone who has ever worked on an election can tell you how it works.
Exactly!
BINGO.
I can’t believe they just discovered that there’s no such thing as the independent party.
I’m nervous about Kennedy’s campaign now. Polls have shown that RFK Jr has support by 40% of Rs but only 17% of Ds.
Last week I spoke with an extreme dem/leftists — who thinks he’s a moderate — after not speaking for many months. He dismissed RFK as a crazy person… even though he’s not listened to any of his speeches which are actually very good… and the reason many R voters support Bobby, at least in theory.
I want Bobby to take votes away from Biden because that will help Trump win… but I do fear now that the opposite may occur… and Bobby may even be alright with that.
MAGA don’t do polls
As voters get to know him they’ll realize he’s a Democrat through and through… Reparations talk will draw dems and repel repubs of all stripes.
I cannot source it but I read RJK came out in favor of reparations. If that’s true his true colors are emerging.
I heard that as well, it came after PDT was capturing much of the Black vote. Kennedy had to come up with something to answer PDT ability to switch Blacks to his side.
Anyone who falls for the reparations crap is really dumb.
It was posted here a few days ago.
Do we really think Biden will be allowed to be in the election? Slot Newsom in for Biden in the equation and ponder the outcome.
please don’t forget Da Mooch
40% of R’s support “bobby?” Rubbish. I do not understand why you think the way you think. Have you taken the time to do any research on Kennedy, at all, besides what the mainstream media is pushing?
Take your blinders off, please.
I’ve listened to many hours of Bobby’s speeches.
And 40% of R support for Bobby does not mean they would vote for him over Trump. It just means they view him in alignment with many of their own views… and so do I … and I have never voted for a Dem in my life.
Maybe you haven’t listened to hours of RFK Jr’s speeches.
NEVER trust a democrat!
RFKJr does not have ‘legs’ to be of significance in 2024… people will tire of his voice first and those who hang on through that will tire of his lefty views when they learn more about him…imho
Hopefully… he can’t win. He will only draw votes away from the two candidates… and I want that to be Biden.
Because he is crazy even if he’s saying things people like in recent speeches.
He’s not stupid, he knows where a lot of the country is now, especially Independents that lean right. And after Covid and the anti-speech battles we’ve had, he’s taken advantage of this discontent and where things are headed..
But if you look at his past history, not just the policies he has supported but his personal life as well, then I can see why they would call him crazy.
I don’t know. I have family that were formerly dem… but voted for Trump and now are Bobby supporters.
Ive been planning how to bring them back.
People do change. Many of us didn’t realize how dangerous our govt had become. Maybe Bobby didn’t either till recently. Yah, his past views were crazy and absurd leftist. He also cannot win… but he can draw votes away from Biden or Trump as Perot did.
I also totally trusted Bush 43 but realize now that the past several potuses were all globalists– both Bushes, Clinton, Obama and now Biden, all pushing pretty much the same major destructive policies.
RFK Jr almost is non existent.
We should never underestimate the enemy. He’s pretty clever.
There are a bunch of consultants lining up at the Kennedy trough to feast on whatever funds he raises and contributes himself. I seriously doubt that 40% of republicans support Kennedy, and I suspect that poll came at a steep price. “FJB and Kennedy. Vote for DJT.”
You are not looking at this properly. Kennedy is not in it to win. He is in it to siphon black votes from Trump most likely in the states where that would ruin Trump’s chances.
BINGO!
Hence Jr’s coming out as pro reparations to buy the black vote away from POTUS Trump.
That may or may not be true, but if it is, he will fail. Trump will expose him and his ridiculous positions for what they are.
I’m now worried that may be true. Not sure yet.
Well, that’s all well and good if we’re talking about a perfect world.
Unfortunately, we’re not. We’re actually talking about two entities that are aligned against an agreed upon enemy, Donald J. Trump.
It’s rather silly to think those two allies wouldn’t facilitate what’s necessary for them to succeed.
Like a third party candidate that helps them beat their common foe.
We need a Constitutional Amendment stating that in the Presidential race (maybe all federal races) State governments cannot enact arbitrary rules to be on the ballot. State governments (because states have allowed themselves to be controlled by parties) have a conflict of interest that affects citizens of all other states.
Similarly, the voting fraud/manipulation of each individual state affects all of us in other states.
States can do what they want statewide but individual States should not be able to destroy other States and those citizens.
He only needs to get on the ballot in key swing states.
Say the six states that stole the election in 2020 for example.
Now with the turd candidate in the mix it makes it much harder to ferret out the corrupted votes.
So Haley and DeSantis are behind “undecided”.
This race for second is a real nail biter. 😁
I’m still rooting for “undecided” and my favorite, actually mr./ms. “Somebody else”, And I think “somebody else should be PDJT’s VP pick, assuming they win this horserace for second,…lol.
After all, they will have earned it, fair and square!
While I miss the old Hollywood Squares board with Marco’s water bottle and Ted’s Canadian flag, I am digging the
Chris Christie pose…”no more please, 4 helpings of cake is enough”
No!@!@! Having a GOP establishment VP would just hamper Trump’s efforts like Pence did. He needs a more independent and rebellious type. Goetz would be great but they’d paint him as a radical. Maybe more of a Jim Jordan or Mike Lee type.
We need someone they’d fear even more than President Trump; a fearless wolverine with an utter loathing of The Swamp.
Mark, The Uniparty/media use a paint-by-number kit and there is only one kit issued… everyone is painted a radical if they can’t control the person.
Whoever it is, preferably Kari Lake, it must be someone strong enough to be President in 2028.
When all is said and done, not one of them will be able to beat Gas Station Sushi, never mind PDJT.
I’m not sure we even need to bother talking about DeSantis or any of the others. Their debates have been silly and the polls show that.
Trump is the R candidate for POTUS in 2024. The competitors are irrelevant. I suppose maybe we should wait to see what happens in Iowa and NH first… but it seems like a done deal.
I’m also concerned about the NY judge trying to put Trump in prison for allegedly violating a spurious gag order. That’s dangerous. I fear that in prison, there could be at attempt on his life. I assume, though, he would have his SS with him?
The SS may have to arrest the judge.
I don’t know , but Congress had better get off of their collective duff and do something about reigning in that whack job judge!
ROFLOL!!!
Talk about giving DeSanctus the bird!
MAGA DO NOT DO POLLS.
Rasmussen has probably the best “public polling” right now, and it shows both wings of the Uniparty have collapsing support.
Rasmussen’s polls are too much of a scatterplot to be trusted, IMO.
I don’t answer any of my phones, emails are quickly deleted with block senders.
The only polls I do are Don Surber’s, because they’re always hilarious.
This was today’s:
Rachel Maddow told viewers this week that if re-elected, Trump will execute liberals. Is this a good idea or bad?
Bad idea: waste of ammo
Bad idea: where do the bodies go?
Bad idea: too time consuming
#1 was winning when I voted.
Excerpt:
Pollsters found Trump performing better than Biden among the youngest voters, leading Biden among 18-to-29-year-olds by about two points, 45.2 percent to 42.9 percent.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/20/poll-trump-leads-biden-as-support-with-young-voters-rises/
That’s possible b/c that age group never watches MSM. They get their info online and watch Rogan, Andrew Tate and others like them.
There’s also quite a few podcasts by young blacks now that support Trump now and who are also learning the truth about historical slavery and are angry their schools and black leaders have been lying to them about slavery and the dem party– the party of slavery, Jim Crow and the KKK.
We/Trump need to appeal to blacks and hispanics. We need to take a big chunk of those voters away from the Dems. To some degree that’s working. In Chicago, the black communities are enraged that these migrants are being housed now in their communities.
I do get the whole uniparty point but ultimately Trump will need a R controlled House and Senate to accomplish anything. If Congress is controlled by dems, he will spend his next 4 years being impeached, all his policies voted down and new Special Counsels. He simply needs R control over Congress. It won’t be a rubber stamp but R control is far better than Dem control… which is obvious. We the R voter have more — not great–influence over Rs. We have zero influence over Dems.
To some degree it was amusing to listen to their fury in Chicago. They prefaced their justified rage by saying . . . They are not opposed to migrants coming here for a better life. But in the next sentence they were screaming that they don’t want them in THEIR community. Their resources are being depleted. Send them somewhere else they said.
The problem is Biden let in 8 million in the past 2.5 years. They are going everywhere….except to the wealthy leftist communities nationwide. That’s where they need to be sent actually.
And I say send more illegal alien migrants to all the leftist Dem sanctuary cities. The red border states should not have to be responsible for the majority of them. This is also a dangerous Trojan Horse. God help us.
What happened to your support for “bobby” and saying 40% of R’s support him and the great speeches he makes? What? You say fear, you say concern, then you mention an assault on President Trump’s life. What kind of a game are you playing here!!!
Biden is “trailing,” they say.
What a sad indictment of Americans it is to think that a significant number of people are supporting an old, white, corrupt, dog-beating pedophile with dementia, right after they virtue signal how much they hate white people…..
Perry Johnson’s statement…
who is perry johnson
The RNC made sure your exact question would be asked by many.
A witness and truth teller about RNC corruption.
Too bad he was silly enough to run against PDJT in 2023…
I hope he discovers the Treehouse before running for anything ever again.
Who??
Who?
“the Florida Governor has been reduced to a small supportive segment of rich, affluent, white men over 50; in essence, the professional republican donor class; and that’s it.”
Okay, but he’s still in the race, so the question becomes: What does that segment of support want Rob to do for them? What attacks do they demand he levies at Trump and America First?
Also, did the voters that left Vivek and DeSanctus go to Haley? I can see a jump from Rob to Haley, but not from Vivek to Haley. Vivek and DeSanctus share almost nothing in common.
In case you missed it, Vivek fired back at Haley’s “I feel a bit dumber every time I hear you talk” by saying he’d “use smaller words next time,” hah!
I don’t support Vivek because I don’t trust him (and Trump has more than earned my trust), but you’re missing out on watching one of the most talented people to run for public office in my lifetime if you’re not watching his campaign.
I admit that he’s fun to listen to.
Maybe he should try buying Faux News for pennies on the dollar after the Murdochs destroy it.
Pence got as much as 3% ?
he has a big family
Don’t believe it, he was gifted the 3% for shiving Trump in the back.
The scent of burnt Meatballs in the morning.
Smells like MAGA victory.
Desantis is only polling 8 points higher than I am and I’m not running.
Ooo that was excellent. LOL
Why not?
They’re all wasting their time and others’ money, but I guess they want to keep their favs on life support in case Lawfare succeeds somehow.
More important point: it’s more evident daily that Lawfare will fail.
Now more than ever I feel the cheating will be rampant. How we react will be a crucial moment.
This post made me realize that the reason all of the pine trees in a Georgia lean south is because Ron De Santa’s sucks.
Republicans are a farce. They gain control and they get absolutely nothing done but in party fighting and could care less that we are losing this country . They are too busy taking bribes from lobbyists and living off the taxpayer while passing bill after bill that destroys middle America. Do not vote to re elect anyone currently in Congress.
exactly!
Very Well Said !!!!!
Reparation remarks from RFK Jr. ruined his chance.
Perv will lose votes from hungry welfare African Americans.
https://roninhardjan.substack.com/p/americas-shadow-government-behind
The more time I spend on this, the more obvious it becomes the United States is a Capitalist-Communist hybrid being modeled after the People’s “Republic” of China (PRC).
[North America’s first white settlers tried “Socialism”, before settling on free trade with limited government intervention. However, today’s leaders would like to retry failed Socialism while eradicating civil liberties. ( Patriot Act)
We have a government that’s doing everything in its power to destabilize our country, while weakening what should be a powerful ally to keep the Chinese Communists in check. I cannot overemphasize how evil the Chinese Communist Party is (they harvest organs from LIVING political dissidents. Not even the “Democratic” party in the US is doing this, yet…
KEY WORD YET
WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE IN A UNITED STATES RUN FOR ELITISTS, OR WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE IN A UNITED STATES RUN FOR THE PEOPLE?
People meaning the other 98%+ of the American public. Liberal voters: you’ll never be invited to join the 1%-2% club of ruling elites. Why continue to support these Oligarchs (psst it’s really just the 0.001%)? It makes absolutely no sense for Liberal voters to continue to support this 0.001%’s agenda.
Socialism and freedom are mutually exclusive. If someone else has a right to the product of your labor, you are not free. Real Estate tax? What is that but renting your land from your feudal lord? Income tax? What is that but the feudal lord’s right to your work?
A MAGA TOP 5 POTUS for sure.
They are not worried. Aren’t there like 10 more Fox News debates with Bret Baier?
At this point, it’s not enough to simply defeat DeSantis, he must be politically destroyed as a warning to the rest of the GOPe.
I see what you did there.
And agree!
Meatball et al are running out the clock in hopes that lawfare takes out PDJT.
Looks like a good time for Glenn Youngkin to throw his hat in the ring.
One term as Governor doesn’t give him quite enough experience.
Well, according to Fox News, Nikki Haley is “skyrocketing” in the polls! They went all in on DeSantis, until they figured out he’s not half the man Trump is. Now they’re hitching the wagon to neo-con warhawk Haley, who wants to take in the radical Palestinian refugees. What could go wrong? …
Mike Pence has 3% support, huh?
He doesn’t need to display is man boobs.
Casper Milquetoast.
So who is for Christy? The fat rich donor class?
Dunkin’ Dough-nations? 🍩
Undecided is the RINOs obvious candidate.
They should pump in $100m or $200m there. /s
Its hilarious that the GOP continues to publicly embarrass themselves.
The grift is strong in those pretenders.
Nimarrata at 8%. Even after her “We need a million Palestinians” remark.
The Washington Post called Ron and Casey a power couple, I’m not seeing it.
The WaPoo was referring to the kind of power you get from solar panels in Vermont in the winter.
RINOs are Sleeper Democrats.
That’s why the GOP never gets anything done.
DeSantis was a planned and planted RNC/uni-party/globalist fall back option being nurtured and supported from his Congressional days to the present. His traits and mannerisms never changed but were checked until he was needed to confront the threat DJT and MAGA presented to the establishment’s power and money laundering operation which necessitated the demise of the Constitution, US sovereignty and the US citizens. The fact that Casey (appears to be the alpha in Ron’s world) and Cindy McCain (wife of an apex RINO) are buds sort of says it all.
Ron D is a smug, stunted, horrible human being, and an even worse candidate for POTUS. He should slink away with some dignity but he’d rather be embarrassed. It tells you a lot about a person.
I read an article by Guy Benson yesterday too, and he is hoping that President trump will fail, They want to bring in Youngkin before the end of the year and I never hear one thing out of that guy that makes any sense I do hear his bios and his silly thinking he knows best who this country needs as President, I do not post on Town hall but would love to tell that guy to grow up and go away. We had the best President in the world and With Gods help He will hopefully get back into office
I am totally ashamed of the people in congress trying to elect a speaker. Those petty little people all needs to do some thinking about what is truly best for this country and then do it.. Why would they want someone who worked for soros as anything and why would they not want to make sure that Jordan was elected Anyway, one thing is for sure, Its their loss and not his because something better will come along for him .
McCarthy is a snake in the grass who was not doing what he promised and he signed his pledge to do his job and he failed at that too
I don’t think Youngkin will get into the 2024 primary. Even he sees that blowing past the “Undecided” brick wall to double digits, yet still lag Pres. Trump by 50 points, is a fool’s errand.
Grifter Pence 3%, Skinny boy Christie 4%. Are there really that many ignorant and stupid Republicans? I think they also polled many ignorant and stupid TDS Demorats.
Stop buying the doom.
Polls are polls. Head down, work hard.
Trump wins three-way race with Biden, RFK Jr.: poll
“Trump’s polling continues to defy gravity both in the primary and the general election,” poll co-director Mark Penn said.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/trump-wins-three-way-race-biden-rfk-jr-poll?utm_source=mux&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tw
Without even taking into account hacking, these machines are so chock full of holes due to the lack of technical controls that they have to rely on procedural controls which of course are an opportunity for fraud. In some sense, we don’t even NEED to prove the systems are on the internet. The machines are just DEFECTIVE on usability alone. I ask dozens of questions in these articls that have never been answered or refuted.
Election Administration Using Voting Machines Part 5 & 6 of 6
https://electiondataanalyzer.substack.com/p/election-administration-using-voting-83d
–Georgia Election Audit Updates
Nikki 8%?
Must be the same people who are looking to Tom (love-myself) Emmer to be speaker.
Yeah, he’ll speak alright. All about himself and his wife, and not listen to anyone else at all, EVER.
On top of spaghetti all covered with cheese,
I lost my poor meatball when somebody sneezed,
It rolled off the table….and SPLAT!
The warmongers at WSJ have been promoting Haley lately. It seems they may have given up on DeSantis and she’s Plan B.
Never understood in the world of politics, one person feels that ‘they’ are the only ones who can be the fixer. President Trump backed other people for years in the hopes they would be what they said they were. Finally, he decided if he wanted it done, he’d have to do it. Now here is all these people who could and should help him return to power to finish a job he performed admirably. Instead its attack and keep silent while he’s being illegally targeted. Bunch of nothingbugers.
Wolverines
Who really believes there will be an election in 2024? Not a chance.
Chris Christie: “I stand with Krispy Kreme.”
Aide [whispering]: “That’s Ukraine, you numbskull.”
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I note that ? is starting to slide in the polls.
I believe that all polls concerned with who can beat Biden are irrelevant and a distraction: Biden wont run.
At this rate DeSantis will collapse into a singularity and become a black hole by mid November
The biggest mystery to me is who are the 4% supporting Christie?