I have no idea whether this report is accurate, but given the nature of events and revelations in the past several years – this seems plausible, possibly likely.
In the aftermath of the 2020 election outcome, several people on the more libertarian/conservative side of the political spectrum, were concerned about being targeted by an Obama third term. As the rather revelatory story is told today, that provided the motive for Peter Thiel to cozy up to the FBI and avoid being a target.
Business Insider is reporting that Billionaire PayPal founder Peter Thiel became a “confidential human source” for the FBI in 2021. The outline claims that known FBI informant Charles Johnson brought Thiel into the relationship. The exact specifics of what Thiel did for the FBI are unknown.
[READ FULL STORY HERE]
Overstock founder Patrick Byrne was/is also an FBI asset, using his money in conservative circles to support entities of interest to the government. Byrne provided the seed money for Dave Rubin’s Locals platform. Robert Mercer did the same with Breitbart, and Rebekkah Mercer did the same thing with Parler. Billionaire Paul Singer did the same thing with The Washington Free Beacon.
Interestingly, Peter Thiel has a networked relationship with several people of “conservative” influence – including Tucker Carlson. It is strongly suspected that Thiel is one of the financial backers of Tucker Carlson’s new media venture. {Go Deep}
People often ask me why CTH viciously protects our independence, enjoys staying small and refuses to take lucrative offers for platform expansion. The reality is, The Truth Has No Agenda – but the majority of the characters you run into within the information space generally do. lol.
Eyes of a Mouse…. Ears of an Elephant.
Keep living your best life.
Money corrupts
No – not everyone and not all the time. Just look at President Trump who has weathered the Storms… REPEATEDLY!
That is true, but different people make different choices. Some choose the high road, others do not. That there I believe is the point!
Different colors of money. Trump earned his money “the old fashioned way” through independent business dealings prior to entering politics. He doesn’t need Soros and Koch money so he cant be bought. He is his own man. Most politicians are attractive well spoken gladhanders who need to accept money from large doners to run and thus are beholden to those backers once in office. I suspect most are recruited by these big money and multi national special interest groups as salesmen to front the interests and legislation authored by the K Street lobbyists these groups have set up and support.
Long before President Trump showed any interest in joining politics The Clintons said he “was too honest to be corrupted and too wealthy to be bought”. Can you think of better experts to make that judgment call?
How about this then? Money corrupts most people most of the time.
I firmly believe that the weaker the character the person, the easier it is to compromise them through power, money, etc.
The root of all evil.
The love of money is at the root of many evils.
Money itself is only a tool, it has no mind or influence in of itself.
And that’s my point!
‘Their’ love of money corrupts them as Showboat concisely commented.
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Absolutely agree. Wealth is morally neutral; there is nothing wrong with money, in and of itself, or the possession of money. It is when money begins to control us, that’s when trouble starts. The love of money is what motivates people to lie, steal, cheat, gamble, embezzle, and even murder.
“Money itself is only a tool, it has no mind or influence in of itself.t”
Like firearms.
“Hoplophobia” !!! Is as “Zenophobia” toward people you know nothing about, and hate them because you are in fear of what you don’t want learn.
Fear and lack of self education is what is killing America !
I’m sorry, generally don’t make these kinds of corrections. God encourages us to prosper, to make money as it were.
It is the LOVE of money that is the root of all evil, and of course the good ole USA has no shortage of those that love money,
See my reply to RF Burns for clarity.
I’m well aware of what you’re saying.
The LOVE of money corrupts. Not money.
Money is not the root of all evil !
It’s the love of money is the root of all evil !
I have had many set backs in life and business and though not necessarily wealthy by today’s standards I’m comfortable and frugal enough to help out family members some with unfortunate circumstances often self induced . I love that I can help them without injury to myself and immediate family .
It surely has!
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!
We need trials, on the scale of Nuremberg, for these financial and power hungry whores. An example needs to be set and what better way to accomplish this than daily public trials for America’s greatest treasonous scum. It should be aired on every vile network without commentary or commercials. Hang these bastards by the neck until dead and then never again allow their type to flourish amongst us.
Amen and amen.
I’m sorry, but the shear SCALE of the many crimes against humanity preclude any legal framework being able to come anywhere close to administering “justice”.
We can only hang them, ONCE. They are responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS, 10’S or even 100’s of Millions,..and regretably there is little evidence to support the concept of punishment as deterence.
Yes, if you kill this sumbitch, he won’t commit any more crimes.
But the idea that some OTHER sumbitch, seeing his fate will not commit similar crimes, BECAUSE of his punishment, is a fiction.
The enormity of the evil we are seeing is mind boggling,…I share your horror, and desire for Justice, but it simply can not be administered by earthly courts, we have to look to a HIGHER authority.
Wouldn’t mind arranging the introduction, however.
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Thank you
Nuremberg did nothing, it was a crap show, just like everything else.
Well, Goering committed suicide before being hung so there’s that. Himmler never made it to Nuremberg because he did the same as Goering.
No, it all wasn’t perfect but some of Hitler’s closest scumbags lost their lives in a more humane way than the Holocaust.
Their jobs were finished by then and they had already done their damage. How do we get to the point where these atrocities never happen? We don’t I fear.
Yeah, they only got the front men. Should have gotten the Bankers!
PayPal pulls plan to fine customers $2.5K for promoting ‘misinformation’
https://nypost.com/2022/10/09/paypal-pulls-plan-to-fine-customers-2-5k-for-promoting-misinformation/
Be careful going after TC on here or you’ll be silenced here or be put in jail
I believe they know the difference between a troll and a truth seeker and I got a time-line of events (mostly post bunker emergence) to back up my suspicions.
The timing (mar-a-lago) of his isolation in the bunker was enough to draw my attention permanently.
Not true at all.
Give me a fookin’ break!
What is TC?
Tucker Carlson.
Looks like Tucker Carlson from above post.
tucker
What are you talking about?
Several of us regularly comment about Tucker going after him.
I believe I have, and am still here, not in time out or banished.
“Interestingly, Peter Thiel has a networked relationship with several people of “conservative” influence including Tucker Carlson. It is strongly suspected that Thiel is one of the financial backers of Tucker Carlson’s new media venture.” – Sundance
My life experience has taught me that money changes everything! Tucker Carlson is now on my watch list! JMO
He had opportunities to take in millions and millions but he went with the globalist and that should be enough but many will still hold him up.
Many will not embrace him but will not demonize him either.
We endlessly sift truth from lies, seek to discern motives without casting away all truth that might be gleaned from a source.
We warily consume information and parse it with wisdom and care, hard to do if one is obsessed with hating on sources and condemning all who don’t comply with emotive diktats.
Yes, message over messenger. Tucker soured me with how quickly he abandoned the election theft. We could’ve used his voice then but his paymasters said no. He seems to be seriously attempting to redeem himself and I’m all for that. I’ll keep rooting for him but I’m not 100% on board yet.
Very well said!
Right on!
People should not be eager to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Tucker has single handedly opened a lot of eyes with truth when MSM was pushing lies. Does that mean he is MAGA, probably not. Tucker is in a unique position to continue opening eyes and minds to the truth of our crazy world. The more sunlight he sheds on the current administration, the better. His solutions may not be the same as ours, but there is value in pointing to the fallacies of the policies of the Biden administration. Much value because there are a lot of people in this country that think socialism/marxism is the answer even though they no longer support Biden and do not understand that those ARE Biden’s policies.
Tucker Carlson was born into a very wealthy and well educated conservative family. Carlson grew up in a mansion, he is well educated and understands how to earn and manage wealth. Not likely he won’t make some wrong judgements unless he’s a perfect man. When I’ve paused at some of his selections to interview I wonder what he knows he’s not telling or can’t disclose legally or out of respect for the Interviewee.
Friend of Hunter?
Yeah, right.
Forgot to mention his daddy’s CIA connections.
His father was EVERYWHERE!!!! See my post below.
Even Wikipoo lets go…this guy got AROUND.
As one of my friends whose father was a ‘diplomat’, she said she never knew a house she lived in that DID NOT have a rather loud water fountain/feature in it! LOL!
Join the club. Glad to have you.
Before it’s over, Bannon will be there too.
Oh my… you went there!!
Indeed.
Didn’t see that coming?
Im looking at Mike Flynn and his buddy Patrick Byrne who regularly attack Lin Wood.
And now you went there!
LOL
There should be a degree program in College for Conspiracy Theory. NOT CRT!
Lin Wood is a lying grifter, as is (now convicted) Sidney Powell.
I believe hes a recently converted devout Christian. Still watching. The attacks on him by the cabal appear to be genuinely intense.
So, what do we think of Flynn?
I unfortunately agree with you about Bannon. I listen to him fairly regularly because he keeps me up to date on the news of the day while I’m commuting.
But some of his connections really do concern me. The other one I listen to a lot is greenwald. I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but he makes really good arguments to give you something to think about. It also helps that he seems to understand how truly scummy our government is.
I always take solace in the fact that PDJT has a genius level brain.
It simply does not matter to him, IMHO, if he works with good or bad people because his level of understanding supersedes anyone attempting any position.
It just does not matter.
God bless you PDJT!!! WE get it. Let us know where you need us!
didnt PDJT, himself, say he is made of different stuff? in the face of evil, it comforts me that he hovers rather than brawls.
Yeah, Bannons got “operative” written all over, and NOT my favorite.
Bannon is a white hat
All these network / internet news sumsabeaches are always on my watch list. The Treehouse is the only place I don’t take news with a grain of salt!
Take care with some of the comments. There are “those” among us!
Just saying!
Truth has no agenda!
A guy at work tried feeding us the line that Israel is to blame somewhat for what happened!
I stomped on that nonsense immediately! Facts and descriptions of the horrors unleashed by a ‘mostly peaceful people’.
I don’t care about my job or career advancement. We can’t shy away from speaking the truth ever!
DD
Cheers D.D.
I am retired so I.D.G.A.F. and regularly raise peoples B.P.
Your courage is to be commended.
All the best!
And yet the way they vote enmasse belies what they espouse.
Strange.
Thiel – PayPal
Musk – PayPal later
Musk – IC asset (most likely CIA)
Thiel – IC asset (FBI)
Thiel – allegedly backing TUCKER’s new media venture.
Musk – providing a temporary media platform.
Tucker – admitted to ‘applying’ to CIA; worked for CIA controlled Mockingbird Media FOX
Tucker – DS/IC asset? See above.
Thanks for shearing your opinion.
There should be more discussion and awareness of the CIA infiltration of American government and bureaucracy, including a Pres candidate. I think there are 13-14 “former” in Congress. There are ‘6 ways from Sunday” this needs sunshine.
I’ve been commenting on that since I started commenting here.
All roads lead to Langley!
Camp Peary.
LOL
so that’s Peter… gosh, I thought he’d look more dashing – not like he ate too many peas..
Now that’s funny!
Hey! I like peas. Obama was the first one I ever heard who knocked peas. 😉
Tucker has a huge family fortune but also true super wealthy never spend their own money on their own business ventures.
These people never, ever have enough money. They’re bottomless pits possibly due to an empty life.
TC recently said he is not wealthy
Can’t make this up
Maybe it depends on your reference point of “Wealthy”. To you and I President Trump is wealthy. To Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos or Warren Buffett he is a piker. I have no idea where Tucker lands or considers himself in that spectrum.
What is the correlation between wealth and credibility? How the wealth is/was achieved may be a weighing factor. I will listen to Tucker and mix his words with the rest of Y’alls and see what makes since to me.
I remember a wise neighbor when I was a kid who only read the comics in the daily paper and said, “I don’t believe anything I read in the paper except the funnies and only half of that!”
Who are Tucker Carlson’s parents?
Tucker Carlson is the eldest son of Lisa McNear, an artist, and journalist Richard Warner Carlson.
Richard is a retired American journalist and diplomat who served as the director of the Voice Of America during the last six years of the Cold War.
He also led Radio Marti broadcasting to Cuba and was director of the US Information Agency and the USIA Documentary Film Service.
Throughout his career as a journalist, Richard has worked as a newspaper reporter, a wire service reporter, magazine writer, TV and radio correspondent, and documentary filmmaker.”
All in the family.
Richard Warner Carlson
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2486984/get-to-know-fox-host-tucker-carlsons-parents/
And Carlson’s father had quite a history…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Carlson
VOA, Radio Marti, USIA – all subsidiaries of the IC (CIA).
Indeed, maybe that is why Tucker now lives on ‘the farm’. Wait until you read the wild childhood Tucker’s father had!!!
Holy crap! One degree of separation, and all Hell breaks loose. Now, I know why Tucker has a rather nervous laugh…
Operation Mockingbird
so we are to assume that he was an operative not just a lied to tool? My dad fought in WWII and was in a German POW camp. was he lied to or an operative? Why do you assume what he knew?
Im amazed at how slow CTH patiently connects the dots on Tucker. Apparently breaking us in slowly. This is gonna hurt but you should be used to it by now.
Why did Fox fire Tucker then?
Optics and cred?
Watters (Fox I think) attacked all the other Networks saying they have banned President Trump live. Obviously Fox is leading the charge.
Yeah, at least Jesse said it out loud.
Who told you that? CNN or FOX News?
I dont believe FOX ‘fired’ Tucker anymore then FOX paid Dominion to settle a lawsuit. Club maneuvering to eliminate MAGA. For All The Marbles..
But Im just a conspiracy theorist. Dont listen to me.
Completely agree.
You may not be a conspiracy theorist… but you have not learned the difference between “then” and “than”… not at all the same meaning.
I got his drift, Professor.
Ditto.
Part of the RINORAT plan ??
Why did Elon ‘buy’ Twitter (a known DS/IC created, supported and controlled entity) and overpay for it then?
More controlled opposition?
Psy-op, maybe. As far as I know, Tucker is still under his contract to Fox. Anyone else know?
Pretty sure the ‘official’ reporting is that TC remains “under contract” to Fox, at this time.
And, TC has been careful to not say anything negative about Fox…
Lead the strays to another box car?
DeSantis good for the party?? surely you jest!!!
MP
Was that a comment from Lindak?
Am I missing a /s?
No, It was someone else who I dont see around anymore.
Dex
Gee, what a shame,…SARC!
Dan Bongino.
funny
Not even surprised, at this point.
The Eye of Sauron has many disciples.
Any R that becomes a source for the FBI in these times was never really interested in a functioning republic.
Let the sunlight continue.
This CYA is a protection racket for billionaires.
Nice fortune you have there, would be a shame if anything happened to it.
Furthermore, I consider that the Derp State must be destroyed.
“In the summer of 2021, Insider has learned, Thiel began providing information as a “confidential human source,” or CHS, to Johnathan Buma, a Los Angeles-based FBI agent who specializes in investigating political corruption and foreign-influence campaigns. “
“The information he passed on about foreign contacts and Silicon Valley intrigue was reviewed and “validated,” or cross-checked against other sources, by his case agents and their colleagues.”
I wonder if Thiel was the insurance plan in case someone other than Donald Trump secured the nomination?
the article as the source uptop – is so confusing it almost looks Pro Thiel to anyone MAGA.
unless the use of buzz words like ‘wire tap’ and ‘jan 6’ were used just to provide an angle to hurt us versus help
Wealthy people often bet on both sides of the power struggle.
Either way they win!
Hedge funds EVERYWHERE!
I would go so far as to say 99.9% of all very wealthy multinational companies are controlled by the 4th branch and wealthy people or politicians are threatened by that 4th branch they fold quicker then tissues.
Never Ever trusted PT Or Patrick and paying attention to one’s stories and many things about has proven correct.
All media is controlled and the popular figure heads who people believed and believe are some kind of savior should have known and use you gut instinct and common sense.
Starting to wonder a chicken/egg scenario.
Are they deep state because they’re wealthy, or are they wealthy because they’re deep state?
Easy to have a lot of money if you’re best friends with the guy printing the money.
Second paragraph answer:
Look at Elon, Jack Dorsey, Bill Gates, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Schmidt and Brin – getting the picture?
If I remember correctly Patrick Byrne was with Sydney Powell and someone else I can’t remember, but they went to see President Trump in the White House to convince him what he needed to do about the election steal and then President Trump’s lawyers squashed the whole idea.
I always thought Byrne was odd, but when he wrote his “memoir” of that night, he noted something about an “attractive” young woman who he thought was trying to flirt with him or maybe he with her, something of that nature. That just struck me as a very odd thing to say, considering the seriousness of our situation at that time.
He and Carter Page are two that every time I saw them interviewed my “spidey sense” just went off.
Peter Thiel is an FBI source simply because he wants to be a source. His motivation is purely narcissism.
as tactical as elon purchasing twitter.
these AI toys are racing for a winner
Jesus Joseph and Mary, what is the next revelation? I am so sick and tired of all the BS coming out of Washington right now.
We are 34 TRILLION dollars in debt and a wide-open border. That is all that MATTERS. Nothing else, it is all an illusion to divert your eyes.
Sorry MIC, we cannot survive another 100 BILLION dollars added to the deficit.
Wake up people, pay attention. We cannot sustain the debt and interest payments due.
And the #1 “in charge” has alzheimers, the #2 “in charge” is dumber than a rock, and the #3 “in charge”, is VACANT.
You bust me up with the “perfect” pic..! I am on the floor laughing.. Wonderful..!
Found in the bin… 🙁
So the guy that founded Palantir ( https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/30/palantir-peter-thiel-cia-data-crime-police ) also works for FBI.
Imagine that.
Every day this $18 dollar stock is in the top 10 “most active” stocks. Why?
Same reason why Apple stock keeps rising…for no reason.
Fascinating, Palantir as a name of a company.
Anyone here a reader of Tolkien?
Long a Tolkien fan, since I first read a review of The Lord of the Rings in Fantasy and Science Fiction Magazine, c. 1956.
Palantir is a software company. Always thought it tacky and presumptuous for them to take the name of a Tolkien invention for something so mundane as ‘data analytics’.
You mean like Dominion Voting Systems? Symbolism is everywhere, Burnsie!
Exactly.
In the linked MSN article which contains more crap than a fertilizer factory, it also mentions a “Mithril Capital” co-founded by Thiel. I would guess he’s something of a Tolkein fan.
Palantir was also used by the DoD to determine which AQ and Taliban leaders to target (among other things): https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/-the-al-qaeda-network-a-new-framework-for-defining-the-enemy_133443407958.pdf
If I recall, InQTel was involved in the seed funding.
Now as for Little Peter running to the FBI instead coming out in support of Trump, maybe it took a little nudging from the Dept. Of Labor: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-palantir-technologies-labor/palantir-settles-u-s-lawsuit-charging-bias-against-asians-idUSKBN17R2VP
Note the timing, this lawsuit was filed in the closing days of the Obama administration.
So when some of your biggest customers are the government, you work with/for the government. Who’da thunk it?
Continue to remain Semper Fidelis, SD.
I really liked Patrick Byrne (aka Paddrick here on CTH forum). Sad to find out he was/is a bad actor.
My spidey senses went wild on that guy. I never trusted him.
Byrne oozes it.
Byrne said he has videos of Jack Smith from years ago that would force Smith to resign his position. In a Twitter post he told Smith to be very worried.
Never saw the video so far!
Been watching him from the start. I was beyond pissed off as I watched him turn. I do not get these people who have no sense of loyalty and choose to not stand firm. He could have really done a lot!
Now he has no credibility.
Sometimes a loaded toaster says a lot.
Oh well.
Thiel is burned now.
No-one is going to trust HIM now.
KARMA
What is the point of this revelation being revealed now, October 19, 2023?
There is always a method to their psychotic madness and motives to upend everything that is valued and good.
Another Sign.
The Hits keep coming
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Just like Kasey Kasem!
thiel is a major investor with palantir..a key source of intel for the USG intel. for reference: the CIA is prohibited from actively spying on and collecting intel on US citizens on US soil. (all bets are off, once you leave conus however)…the same is generally true, but was reshaped to suspend these prohibitions for the FBI in regards to the “war on terror”.
but what can the CIA and the FBI DO that overcomes these prohibitions without actually violating the law?
they can “partner” with private companies and BUY the products (the intel is collected by a private, NON GOVERNMENT SOURCE and SOLD to the CIA AND FBI)>! This is the loophole.
palantir provides that service.
now how was this loophole realized. patriot act..now called the us freedom act.
this is how it “works” a private company or even just a regular US citizen “contact” the cia and or FBI with some evidence they have observed. (see something say something)…at that point, these agencies evaluate the data they did not collect themselves, but was sold to them. And they deliberate about whether there is a threat. Mind you, all of this is top classified. No one knows how THAT sausage is made. But we have plenty of clues about how it has become weaponized, yes sir we have..as predicted, I will remind.
now the CIA and the FBI and all other cooperating IC partners (about 21 or so) can “share” this information, enhance it and even get a presidential letter allowing them to actually take covert actions…some even without a presidential letter…some so secret and sensitive as comey would say, that even congress is not allowed a brief! And who knows who makes the decisions and where these activities lead.
WE HAVE A SECRET POLICE SPY STATE…none of these people are elected. none of these people are held to account for violating law and manufacturing evidence.
thiel invested in palantir because it is an ATM machine. Until congress closes that loophole, that ATM machine will keep printing money to a very small number of people who actually control quite a massive amount of intel and that sets the agenda.
palantir is just one of about 100 companies worldwide who provide this “service”..most of the analysts and intel collectors are former CIA, FBI AND MILITARY IC.
God Bless America
USA…The World’s ATM Machine, Baby…Don’t Leave Home Without It!!!
Where did 100 come from?
Not convinced it isn’t way more than this.
Think of all the data being sucked up on school children everyday all day, at home and at school.
Oh the BigData to control future leaders of America.
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That is quietly insightful OTTEX🤔
companies that are known and have “license/contracts” to do business with nations states. I chose a round number to illustrate this is not just palantir, but many other companies…all private, quasi-governments. What makes palantir unique is that it’s SOLE customer appears to be the USG. Although I would imagine there are palantir type companies that collect and provide processed data (enhanced data for targeting) to other countries, china, north korea, russia, israel, canada, australia, UK…etc.
and yes most of these niche companies do have contracts with the likes of microsoft, oracle, apple, amazon, and google and probably facebook and twitter/x. So you have this massive scaled data collection industry, largely unregulated in terms of what they can and cannot collect…and fewer rules and prohibitions to target certain things, orgs and people. What most people think of is business data, for marketing and advertising…but it goes much deeper than that. Everything from industrial espionage, to spying on competitors, price fixing/racketeering…things that by law, the CIA and FBI must go through various levels of legal thresholds in order to perform. But the loophole as I have written is there is nothing that prohibits these two agencies from simply buying the data from these private firms. And there is no law these private companies from contacting these agencies with data and processed intel products they deem “important”.
for reference: many of us are aware that recently courts have ruled that joe malarkey administration is prohibited from contacting and influencing and pressuring social media and other media companies for censorship and shadow banning. So in this example, the courts have ruled that the federal government made not impinge upon first amendment rights, even indirectly. However, this court ruling did NOT consider what happens when private social media companies CONTACT the USG and it’s agencies and consult and provide “processed intel” through various “boards” and “reviewers” for hate speech and misinformation considerations. In that respect, the courts remain mum on how the role of government should be limited, if even at all. So the legal victory in the former example is quite hollow. It still allows a certain amount of censorship, just not with direct pressure to conform. And as we are aware, there is a specific narrative that social media companies support about a wide range of issues: abortion, terrorism, weaponization of IC/secret police spy state, sars origins as a bioweapon with coordination from US agencies, including funding from military and nih, mRNA gene therapy facts about efficacy and safety, the mandates and masks that were clearly not working to effectively limit the spread of the highly mutable virus, the stolen election, russia russia…and the list goes on and on. So you see, the courts narrowly ruled but what is left on the table is that the government is still free to get involved and express it support for a specific narrative. Social media companies are of course not immune to this kind of institutional environment where it would not be comfortable bucking the official narratives and agenda of the US Government…A chilling factor on one hand and of course the freedom to be left along and perhaps do some very dodgy things and KNOW the USG will stay out of your wheelhouse. I don’t recall any members of the media getting jackboots at dawn for the knock or accused of peddling lies and misinformation and fraud ….so the “relationship” is based on do what the Government desires. So circling back, we have nearly the same issue with USIC partnering with major data vendors and companies like palantir who provide processed intel. Even if the courts were to rule this is unlawful and amounts to the same effects as direct spying..there is no prohibition that could disallow these companies to simply make first contact AND PLAY BALL. This is the nature of the secret police spy state….I’ve written about it many times, in as much details as I can and remain objective about the pros and the cons of how intel is collected and used in the modern digital age. I come from that world in the sense that it was effective in dealing with and prosecuting criminals in the war on drugs. However, what we see now is so much more than that. It’s far too broad and because there are no practical and legal limits that cannot be overcome with loopholes, we are closing in quickly on a type of society where data is THE COMMODITY. Information, collected by and processed by, a very small group of people who are not accountable to THE PEOPLE, but whom have enormous and unchallenged power to wield this information data and use it for ANY PURPOSE DESIRED. And because the USG depends almost exclusively on this data information is making decisions…the data itself becomes more powerful than any other class of power. The shift in power happens and is concentrated to a small group of unelected, and often non US Citizens, or to persons largely who only have one single priority on the agenda: to create power and concentrate and control power.
consider the question: who is really making decisions in the white house? extend that. Who is really making decisions about the border, hamas, russia-ukraine, the china threat, the monetary policy, the new green deal….if we assume there are people and groups of them at the highest levels of government making these decisions..upon what INFORMATION/DATA do they depend when making those decisions…and WHO provides it to them?
God Bless America
Given that everyone is being surveilled, bugged and followed 24/7/365, we’re all informants.
So, if I am completely off the wall and informing on all sorts of oddities, do I end up as Charles Manson, Marilyn, or Peter Thiel…or is there really a difference?
A LOT of Beetles songs are coming to mind.
That is why we, the people, must support President Trump. We may not have billions in the bank, but millions of us can send $10-$25 and that will guarantee him the independence to act for us.
Very sorry to hear about P Byrne… i follow him on locals and have been very interested in his posts on the struggle for election integrity in Michigan. He was cursing out M Garland. And talking about having evidence, etc, that the Michigan case was going to blow everything wide open…. after reading he’s IC asset…. sounds like he’s just something along the lines of Q…. “NCSWIC” When , actually , nothing is coming. Sigh. God help us all.
So Sundance said he’s an FBI asset – why? I need more than say-so here. It doesn’t match what I see in Byrne’s behavior. I also have read that Gregg Phillips and Catherine Englebrecht are FBI assets. I keep checking what I see against who’s saying it and whether it makes sense with what I’ve seen, and all I can say is, if those three are FBI assets, let’s have more FBI assets, because all three of them are embarrassing the FBI wonderfully!
Patrick Byrne admitted he is an FBI asset. How do you think you heard of him?
Use the search function.
I don’t disagree that he has done work for them in the past and he has said so. That’s not what I mean by an FBI asset. To me that term means someone who is untrustworthy here and now . I think it was during that work where he says he realized the depth of government corruption, as he helped frame Hillary but realized it wasn’t just her, they were finding ways to have dirt on everyone who could possibly become president. That could be a lie, but it makes sense with everything else I’ve heard him say.
The question that matters is, is he still part of FBI corruption? I can’t see where the current FBI has benefited from anything I’ve seen him do in the past 3+ years. He seems to be shining quite a bit of sunlight in a lot of places. I can’t think of many people the FBI has more reason to hate. Can you show me anywhere he is lying?
He set up his Russian girlfriend. Whatta guy😎
Tell us about Mike Flynn and his buddy Q
I am not sure which way you mean this. Byrne, Flynn, and many others have told Q people many times, forget it, it’s not real, nobody is coming to save you, you’re going to have to get off the couch and get active!
I know of a couple people who seriously believe in Q and I don’t know what to say to them, other than, I only wish I could believe we still have a real military!
Flynn was head of NSA. I have always wondered how he was able to be trapped so easily by the dimwits exposed with the Dossier and Hurricane investigations. His signature used to always include, “Where we go one we go all”. I think Q was an IC operation.
Anyone know what happened to Andrew Cohen Watnick? He worked with Flynn and Kash Patel. Last I read he went to the Pentagon to flush out the money trails there…
I think that’s Ezra Cohen Watnick.
“Where we go one we go all” was a good statement in the military long before there was a Q. That’s like saying because you use the phrase “all for one and one for all” you want to be one of the Three Musketeers. Or because you say “Molon labe” you are Greek. It’s just a slogan, and a good one.
About Michigan, things seem to be going well: https://letsfixstuff.org/2023/10/election-integrity-court-victory-3-0-decision-by-mi-court-of-appeals/
“Today, the Michigan Court of Appeals ruled in favor of citizen plaintiffs seeking election integrity in a 3-0 decision.”
Money corrupts absolutely and always expects favors to be kept.
I thought the quote was Love of money corrupts.
Money can’t buy happiness, but you can rent it.
A twist on the old saw that flips the argument about the value of money and the reality of the modern economy. Sometimes used to bring socialist and communists back to reality when discussing capitalism and why it is important versus everyone gets a trophy fantasies.
All the talk about how money corrupts…the truth is, money exposes character…it is a tool and not one of us masters its management…After Christ’s baptism he spent 40 days/nights in the desert being tempted to use his power for self-interest…Jesus is the only true incorruptible absolute power broker…My plan is to “follow” him and others who do too…As far as money goes I’ll keep working on my craftsmanship.
Blackrock has shares in every large and mid company in the WORLD.
Yet every few weeks we are treated to some new revelation about lower down fish.
Strange that.
Israel is not blameless. Israel was birthed via the Balfour Agreement, proposed by Central Banker Lord Rothschild to the leaders of Britain in exchange for bringing the United States into the Great War, which was about to be won by Germany. The rest, as they say, is history…..and who documents history?
Rothchilds control the Central Banks. Before Sea Island, there was Jekyll Island.
All Wars Are Bankers Wars
https://rumble.com/v3jj4nw-documentary-all-wars-are-bankers-wars.html
Dunno.
I always go back to Judea, about 3000 years ago. Then I sweat it out with someone who started Islam in 600 AD. I, though, am not a professional mathematician.
Yet I DO love being snarky, and I stay at a LOT of Holiday Inns.
I don’t FEEL snarked….perhaps it’s time for an overnite stay at an HI.
Is Peter Thiel paying both sides?
NYT – The fund-raiser at Mr. Thiel’s Miami Beach compound last month was for a conservative candidate challenging Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming for a spot on the ballot in November’s midterm elections. Ms. Cheney, one of several Republicans who had voted to impeach President Donald J. Trump on charges of inciting the Jan. 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol, was the face of “the traitorous 10,” Mr. Thiel said, according to two people with knowledge of the event, who were not authorized to speak publicly. All of them had to be replaced, he declared, by conservatives loyal to the former president.
The Republican politicians Peter Thiel is backing Mr. Thiel has given more than $20.4 million to support 16 Senate and House candidates for the midterm elections. He also has donated to a PAC supporting Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, who isn’t up for re-election this year.
So business insider is now in the whistleblower exposure business? I don’t know whether to say “typical“ or “why would they do that?”
Business Insider is a 100% Democrat Party shill.
You da man Sundance!!!
The last words of this message are in my head every day, Sundance. It gets tough some days. I just suck it up and keep going. I know most of us here do. God Bless all Treepers, and God Bless America. We must begin to believe that we are stronger than we know. I think some might call it faith. Keep praying.
If that is Charles Johnson, the insane cyclist from LGF, nothing would surprise me. He went nuts maybe a decade or more ago, and completely reversed his posting requirements.
One of his famous post series was the “Palestinian Car Swarm” where he would post photographs of West Bank crowds literally swarming a car-bomb site, and collecting body parts of the “martyrs” to parade through the streets, and presumably put in their freezers when they were finished.
He suddenly changed and started banning people (like me!) who said anything contrary to mohemmadism.
Haven’t been back since, but I’ve always wondered…
Never could reconcile his purported conservative beliefs with his ownership in Palantir and working relationship with govt.
If Patrick Byrne is currently helping the FBI, then how do you explain (ex-CIA) Tore Maras and (persona non grata to the Obiden administration) Mike Flynn trusting him and working with him?
Byrne has been very open (okay, when you are doing classified work, there is some of it you can’t say as long as any effective part of the government still exists that you swore an oath to) about his work helping the government in the past. Many of us who’ve been in the military unwittingly helped the government in ways we could kick ourselves for now, and I can’t see much to criticize about what he did and when he figured out he was assisting corruption. He’s also been open about the discreditable things he did to get the corruption in the government to show itself.
I find him to be a person with a very interesting story of how he got where he is (which I would have trouble believing if I didn’t know even wilder life stories from history such as Eddie Rickenbacker), but he seems genuine to me in what he says and what he doesn’t say. He has been a college professor, and talks like the old kind of college professor who politely but persistently challenges you at every step, to “convince me if you can, but use logic!” He shows self-awareness of his own motives and more understanding than most of human nature, even though he still thinks like the older liberals that people are basically good. (He started out politely dismissive of Christianity, but that seems to have changed to respect as he has realized how many are in this battle because they love truth because they serve the One Who is Truth. I pray for his salvation.) He generally tries to avoid criticizing others who are on the same side even though he obviously enjoys a good fight.
He trusts people whom I don’t – Warren Buffet for example – but then I don’t know Warren Buffet personally and he does, and sounds like he cut himself off from Warren Buffet because Buffet is not on the same side about election fraud. He seems to think a few senators are decent people – I can’t think of any I trust for sure right now – but that could have been just a matter of courtesy to former co-workers.
And it’s not that he is uncritical – others I follow have had rather public fights with him and later made up as they realized they actually agreed and had been pushed into a fight by followers who may have been trolls. At the same time, he has moved away from (in some cases said very harsh things about) others who came to appear not-so-genuine in the fight for election integrity.
Byrne and Sundance are the only ones I have seen really call out John Brennan by name and outline crimes of his.
I don’t see having supported Locals as a major issue. You couldn’t be in the level of tech business he’s been in without some involvement with companies that look very questionable now. But that would include companies I worked for, for years, and all that time I didn’t know a neighboring tech company was spawning what would become Dominion.
Byrne at one point was trying to explain a version of blockchain technology that would make voting secure (I don’t believe it and in any case it is not transparent – what we need now is absolute transparency, we need the newest 18-year-old high school graduate to see and understand how his vote gets counted.) But he seemed to be aware that whether or not blockchain voting is possible, now is not the time to do it; he was just explaining it as an intellectual curiosity.
It sounds like Byrne was only peripherally aware of what Tina Peters did in getting the image that proved Dominion machines deleted vote records, but when he had time to look into it, he saw the significance a lot faster than most conservatives did, saying that at that point we had them dead-to-rights, and if we had a real justice system, the fight would be all over at that point.
Meanwhile, he seems to have been closely involved with the recent victory in getting the Michigan AG to admit that there was election fraud in Michigan, it was huge, it had been covered up for 3 years, and Michigan’s AG, SOS, governor, and the FBI were all implicated in the coverup. So the AG started trying to indict everyone just for existing, and it remains to be seen whether the justice system in Michigan will put up with the blatant crimes, but if not, Michigan is about to crack the fraud-denial dam wide open.
Okay! Where’s the video of Jack Smith, Byrne promised?
I don’t recall that. Was that recently? I am pretty focused on election integrity issues and most of what I know about Jack Smith is through Sundance.
Blockchain is not your friend. It’s marketing.
Some get trapped because someone in their family does something that gets them involved or leveraged.
Like General Flynn.
They’ve made their “god” something that can be possessed & give temporal pleasure … money-power
Before passing judgement on Thiel I would just point out that Business Insider is a leftwing publication and generally pretty sketchy.
Sundance, Anonymous Conservatice and Vox Populi are the only big 3 who get it. Gateway Pundit, and Kane and Liberty Daily are stragglers, who bump up against a good idea now and then…
Breitbart has a role as punisher due to it’s presence…but CTH is where it is primarily. TY SD
CTH is on the cutting edge, not many people know about Byrne being a Fed….
They’re all suspect. That’s why, as much as I dislike it, Trump’s approach is the right one. He doesn’t care who you are or what group you represent, he cares about getting the best deal — a fair interview, a tacit endorsement, whatever — from the people he interacts with. It leaves him open for exploitation by flatterers, but that’s inevitable, I suppose.
The lack of dark-money financial backing obviously doesn’t confer good judgment, but it oftentimes precludes it. I’m grateful for CTH’s willingness to forgo lucrative deals in pursuit of the truth, even if it sometimes fails to catch it (like on the Israel – Palestine conflict). I can accept CTH being wrong on a topic, so long as it’s not financially motivated lies.
All those investor names sound familiar, for some reason. Maybe Gab knows.
So Thiel was spying for the fbi about other governments? Like that’s a bad thing ?
Could it actually be their wealth that makes them an easy target by the almighty Government in order to protect itself? Several books have been written that the average person breaks several laws every day due to the countless number of laws that have been written.
They have even dusted a few off and charged Trump with a few of them.
Anyone of any major influence is there for a reason, and God didn’t put them there.
I have never really trusted Rumble, due to Thiel’s affiliation. But perhaps a tinfoil perspective could also be that Business Insider (and who funds them??) is laying the groundwork for some kind of op against conservative outlets?? Keep watching.
Didn’t he make mass surveillance platforms for the US govt? How is he not a fed? Why is everyone talking about this now as if it is news?
I hate to say it folks – but I do not trust Tucker nor musk – both are too wushu washy for me – while they try too look like they are centered – straddling the fence – their tail feathers have been dioping in either direction much too often for me!!
Does not tucker trace back his early pre fox years to cnn??!!
I do not trust any of these billionaires – case in point when Sheldon adeldon was alive he and wifey has thrown her support to the rino’s at first desantis now whomever!!
And supported President Trumo – now with Sheldon gone wifey