The intent of the RFK Jr. independent campaign, as an operation to support Biden and hurt Donald Trump, becomes even more obvious when you look at the recent Marist Polling [SEE HERE].
- In a three-way contest with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running as an independent, Biden opens up a 7-point lead over Trump. 44% of registered voters support Biden. 37% back Trump, and 16% are for Kennedy.
- With Kennedy in the race, Biden’s support dips 5 percentage points among Democrats while Trump loses 10 points among Republicans.
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As noted, since before he officially made the change, this outcome is by design. RFK Jr. is running as an independent for one specific purpose – block Trump. That’s it folks.
That’s also the reason why RFK Jr. fired his campaign manager, Dennis Kucinich, and replaced him with his daughter-in-law, a former CIA operative.
{…] “Mr. Kennedy’s new campaign manager is Amaryllis Fox Kennedy, a former C.I.A. agent, memoirist and documentarian who in 2018 married Mr. Kennedy’s son, Robert F. Kennedy III.” (link) Those who do not accept things as they are, are doomed to be victims of the ‘six-ways to Sunday’ group.
Keeping in direct alignment with the agenda, Robert Kennedy Jr. announced a rather radical proposal today, he is now in favor of reparations for black Americans. The transparent intent? Cut down the growing block of Trump supporters within the black community.
NEW YORK – Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. supports issuing reparations to the black community, making him the most prominent 2024 candidate to favor the controversial policy meant to atone for slavery and legal segregation.
President Biden has largely been silent on the issue, leading to frustration among the far left.
Kennedy — who ditched his Democratic primary challenge to Biden earlier this month — has spoken out in favor of issuing federal dollars to “rebuild black infrastructure” like banks and businesses, and as well as “direct redress payments or tax credits” rather than no-strings cash giveaways.
“Communities that were specifically targeted for destruction need to be specifically targeted for repair,” he states on his campaign website. (more)
I cannot force people to see it, and I would never waste energy trying to convince. I just assemble the data and accept things as they are, not as I would pretend them to be…
…. You know who else supports reparations?
Pandering.
Anything to beat Trump; wonder if Tucker Carlson will reinterview RFK, Jr. after this announcement, Tucker has been enthralled with him.
Shameless.
I do not understand supporting RFK Jr. even if he was anti “vaccine”. He comes with so much loony lefty ideals it boggles my mind.
He’s a con man living on his name. I wonder how much they are paying him? He’s corrupt as hell!
I don’t disagree.
I think he got more traction in politics via his “vax” postion and decided to strike while the iron was hot.
I do not see why Trump should lose votes because less than 13% of the population wants free stuff when 87% will have to pay for it.
That is exactly why DJT will lose black voters. Many of them just want free stuff. And the white leftist marxists also agree with this plan which will destroy capitalism.
Bobby can promise anything. How many of those campaign promises come true?
zero
Exactly. It needs to be a regular campaign pitch:
The left promises you reparations. But it won’t happen. And YOU KNOW IT WON’T HAPPEN.
Don’t be a sucker.
They’ve lied to you for a century. They’re lying to you now.
Don’t be a sucker.
Why would black voters who just want free stuff vote for Trump in the first place? Those aren’t the blacks that are supporting Trump.
Were that only true. But the fact is > 50% of the country are getting FREE SHIT from the government. They want more and more.
“I would gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today.” – Wimpy, of the POPEYE… CARTOON series from long ago…
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Yep, that is the deal from the Demshoviks.
I wonder how many REALIZE the Bullcrap!
NOPE.
If ever there was chance that I would have voted for this miscreant, it has just dissolved into thin air.
Go away!😊
Trump/2024!!!!!!!!!
Wait man, I’m confused.
I thought Bobby socks (sucks) was a real alternative to Trump/MAGA.
That’s what all the influencers/bots have been saying for months here.
Come to think of it, some ‘Treepers’ too!
Ti-ii-ii-me was on my side, yes it was!!!
Some were even pushing for RFK Jr. as Vice President…ludicrous.
Well, some are saying “How about President Trump’s Attorney General?”…
Ya gotta be kiddin me…He’s a Kennedy!!!
We have many SINGULAR Issue voters here. It used to be Abortion … now it’s COVID. Those are the same people here who will be voting for DeSantis because they believe he did a better job than Trump in opening up his State … after shutting it down.
That soothes my heart.
That latter group is quickly dwindling to nothing.
I suspect that MAGA will realize that the point of RFK has always been to stop MAGA by splintering us.
Bobby states that outright.
Why would anyone paying attention think otherwise?
DeFunctis won’t be a choice. Trump has the nomination locked up. The thing to watch is how the non-Trumpers line up after his nomination. Watching them now is already illustrative. Something about their TRUE COLORS… SHINING THRU….
Shades of Elon!
🎯🎯🎯😂😂😂😂😂😂
BTW, did you catch what Sundance revealed about the change in Bobby’s campaign manager?
“Ex” CIA.
Why does CIA keep coming up directly and indirectly on EVERYTHING?
🎯👁️👁️👁️
That is who they are.
Are some people here blind and deaf?
How many frigging times do we have to listen to a bunch of bs without certifying a person’s background?
I have been duped. A lot of folks have who have lived long enough. However, I am becoming increasingly less tolerant of the stupidity.
Who has actually DONE what they said they were going to do?🦁👑
Who is SUFFERING because they are taking on the administrative oligarchy while supporting the American people? 🦁👑
Who has put their ASS on the line and been attacked for it?🦁👑
One person!
The hell with another dynastic, opportunistic piece of political excrement. 💩
Donald Trump🦁👑- or we are doomed.
Put that in your heads and charge forward like your lives depend on it – because they do!🗡️🇺🇲
MAGA 🇺🇲💕
Exactly, girlfriend!
True Black Knight.
I remeber reading comments from some who thought a Trump/Kennedy ticket was the winning one for 2024.
They gushed over this liberal Kennedy nut.
A guy who supposedly wants to shut down the CIA is a CIA op…. and now hires a CIA family member to run the op….. can’t make this stuff up
Self-preservation. If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.
Exactly. Do See 👁️ a people really ever leave the agency?
Only out a window
James Forrestal unavailable for comment
He was the poor man who was MK U’d out the window, right?
Don’t forget he is an on the wagon heroin addict. What could possibly go wrong.
I understand where this could pick up some black support for Kennedy. But wouldn’t it cost him with other groups?
Also.. if Kennedy was a threat to Trump.. the left would be getting behind him.. but you don’t see this in the media.. Just the opposite..
Very good point!
I am looking forwrd to seeing how Pres Trump handles this.
He seems to have a real talent in turning the attacks by our enemy into wins for his campaign.
So we will see what happens.
Possibly Kennedy will crash and burn while our PT uses it to his advantage.
I suspect President Trump will take a sympathetic attitude to Bobby: “It is sad that his father and his uncle, the President, were killed when he was so young. It is hard to imagine what he has gone through. So it is not surprising that his mind has been scrambled. He says lots of crazy things, about guns, and energy, and even reparations, that don’t make any sense. He is very smart, and very likable, and fun to be around, but he really has no place in public life. I hope he will give up running for office, and go back to being the charming gadfly that he has been in his troubled life.”
The left owns the Democrat Party. They will vote whoever the dems run
Look for Sean Hannity to give him a suckup interview when Bobby changes his position on the forever wars.
It should definitely cost him Republican votes, however, those “republicans” hate President so much they won’t care.
The idea is that he’s not in it to win, just to take voters away from Trump, in which case it doesn’t matter if he alienates potential voters as long as the overall result is negative for Trump.
Previously I was holding my judgement over whether he was genuinely trying to hurt Trump or merely foolish enough to think he had a shot as an independent, but this move looks REALLY bad for him in that regard.
He’ll get the black voters who want their free $$$ and he will take votes away from both Obiden and Trump.
The Left knows that Obiden is a puppet; they hate Trump – they will vote RFK Jr.
The RINOs in this Country who have TDS will vote anybody other than DJT, and will likely vote RFKJr because they know Obiden is a laughing stock sock puppet; also that RFKJr will perpetuate their fairy tale dream of a “Democrat Country.” So sad. Pathetic, actually.
Many on the left hate him because he made them look stupid for vaxxing up. I appreciated his stand on the
covid vax, but he is no DJT.
It won’t impress Latinos very much, will it. And they are an arguably more important group than AAs for Trump.
It seems to me that the Blacks that support Trump do so because they value personal responsibility, want good government, and are not looking for handouts like reparations. This ploy by RFK Jr may not have that much of an impact on Blacks that are planning to vote for Trump in 2024.
Buying votes is always a plan.
Jefferson – when the people discover they can vote themselves money
Reparations – boy that’s a gamble – bet he will lose a lot of that Libertarian /MAGA anti vaxer support – that he may not make up in the black vote -In any event , his black reparation vote may come from the Dem side of the pie (Biden or Newsome) so I would assume the Dems have to match Jr’s reparation bid and double raise it
But, supposing he’s not trying to win, just trying to hurt Trump – then the people he will drive away, like anti-vaxers, are less likely to vote for Trump due to his support for Warp Speed and refusing to say anything bad about the vaccines. Which means a net loss for Trump, which Sundance is suggesting is RFK’s real goal.
There is no “supposing “ about it ( RFK could never win and doesn’t expect to ) but who knows where the one issue anti vaxers will go , they thought they had a “ friend ‘ in Jr . , but if his reparations play is too big a pill to swallow for them ( which it certainly probably is ) they sit it out, if they can’t “ forgive ” PDJT , I suppose _I doubt they would vote for the Dem . Candidate …
I don’t think the are that many single issue MAGA voters out there. This poll says otherwise I guess.
I imagine things will look different in a couple of weeks after Big Don hammers Teddy’s drug addicted nephew upside the head a few times.
From a breath of fresh air to the stink of corruption.
LOVE^^^^
It won’t work. The indolent class among black Americans would never vote for Trump.
However…any chance he had of peeling away independentsand unaffiliated leaning Trump just evaporated.
I do not believe for a split micro second that Biden is ahead of Trump by any 44% to 37% with or without a Kennedy in the race. Any conclusions based on such an absurd claim are useless.
The polling is meant to provide cover for the vote steal.
Might be and, if so, that’s would be a whole lot of cover.
*If* that poll is correct, then Trump has no chance even if the democrats didn’t cheat at all.
We had certainly better all hope that poll is not even remotely close to accurate or else the Fat Lady has sung..
I would think supporting reparations will pull more black dems from Biden to Kennedy. Thus helping Trump.
That certainly makes sense to me as, against just Trump, Biden would get the vast majority of black votes.
Think bigger. Assume Newsom replaces Biden, and declares that he supports reparations.
That’s the final play for sure. Makes sense.
Okay, so then Newsom and RFK are supporting reparations. I guess blacks will have to choose between those two if they want reparations. How does that effect Trump’s support?
How many really believe that Biden will be nominee?
A question Sundance, and please answer this honestly, but what do the FULL crosstabs of this poll look like? Are they made available to INSPECT! Rich Barris always cautions people when it comes to polls by outfits like Marist!!
This is all I could find.
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/the-2024-presidential-contest/
https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202310121128.pdf
Barris spent a good hour talking about this poll today. It’s up on YT.
Thanks, I will check it out!
Pretty sure he just lost all Trump supporters.
What a lowlife.
Correct. He is, after all, a Kennedy and a leftist.
Reparations for what ?
It’s a plain and simple unwarranted, unjustified money grab. However, I would agree that people who wish to pay and contribute to reparations, should do so.
Make reparations 100 % voluntary payments. Stay out of my bank account.
It sounds like focus-group-tested jive to me.
If this is an example of his new campaign manager’s grasp of politics, the rfk should brace for impact.
Apparently RFK Jr is unaware his daughter is working for the outfit that many believe killed his uncle & poss his father as well.
Go figure
Oh, he knows.
“Trump loses 10 points among Republicans”
Those are the “republicans” that simply don’t like mean tweets and think “orange man bad”. They should be categorized as Democrats.
“Trump loses 10 points among Republicans” is malinformation.
Yeah, let’s get that narrative out so we can once again pull off the steal and say it was because of Kennedy taking votes from Trump!🤨
RFK Jr.’s support for reparations is a rake stomp.
Love how he calls the NRA a terror group, yet whines like a baby cuz he cant get armed bodyguards (secret service protection) for his campaign.
Oh RFK Junior, won’t you at least buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
The uptown folks drive Porsches, they must make amends.
Worked hard watching Oprah most of my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So RFK Junior, won’t you at least buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
Oh RFK Junior, won’t you buy me a health care plan?
Working to pay for it myself is too hard on me.
I want to get prescription drugs and a doctor for free,
So RFK Junior, won’t you buy me a health care plan ?
Oh RFK Junior, won’t you buy me a retirement on the town ?
Prove that you’ll take care of me and buy my next round.
Oh RFK Junior won’t you buy me that big house down the block that I found?
I’m counting on you, RFK Junior, please don’t let me down.
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Oh RFK Junior, wont you care for me from cradle to grave?
If you will pay for everything then think of all the money I’ll save!
It’s the finest of foods, the best designer clothes and luxurious surroundings I crave,
So give it all to me for free RFK Junior, and then you might become my fave
Bravo!!
Listless, did you write that yourself??
Janis Joplin paraphrased
I had some help.
So you’re saying you don’t mind if I borrow it?! 🙃
It’s yours !
Thank you!!
Most excellent!
LOLOLOLOL
He’s said the CIA killed his uncle, and yet his daughter becomes an agent, and now he ditches Kucinich and hires her.
He is anti-gun, pro-lgbt in the schools, anti-parental rights, pro-abortion, and more.
He was with us on the vaxx and on mandates, but the harm he can do now is great. We must make sure people aren’t seduced.
Luckily, so far his campaign has been a disaster.
I want to know where he stands on election integrity since his uncle with his father’s help cheated in the primary in WV and general election to get him in the White House
Democrats sure do know how to use Blacks for votes.
I’m not sure it will work at the end of the day as effectively as this poll shows.
Also, I think quite a lot of that Republican and independent support will come back to Trump once they realize RFK supports reparations (and all the other lefty policies).
Whether he actually peels that many republican voters from Trump or not you can bet there will be more polls and talking heads saying that he does. Simply for the fact that RFKJr provides the cover for the ballet thefts when ballets are kicked out of uncalibrated machines and thus are interpreted for [insert democrat/independent name here]. It’s the illusion that he has support when in fact he doesn’t.
Yes, because the Dems, DNC know that Obiden is past his best buy date. So they are using RFKJr to try to (via LSM) siphon votes from DJT.
The problem is the sheeple who only listen to LSM.
Biden’s best buy date is unknown. He is for sale all of the time and buyers are still buying.
Wasn’t the 40 acres plus a mule already reparations?
Reparations for somebody else, maybe. Instead of 40 acres and a mule, today we get 40% tax bracket and an a$$ in the White House……..
Affirmative action was reparations, but now it’s the pointy end of bigotry against whites. Rfk can’t see that, tho, because it’s not like he’s ever had to apply for a job. He and his ilk–rich white democrats–continue to wage war on working class whites to pay for their trust baby privilege. That’s the real privilege, not skin color.
For every one black voter he takes from Trump for reparations, he just may lose two white Trump voters.
By their fruits ye shall know them.
Good that he’s exposing his true identity now, for those who are willing to see it.
Is Jr. secretly on Trump’s payroll? He sure seems to be generating some serious material that can be used in Trump’s campaign
The irony of it all!!
I’m hoping that the type of people that are drawn to Trump see that for exactly what it is.
Let me reiterate, the people who are drawn to Trump are not the kinds of people that are looking for “reparations” and I have a feeling this is going to backfire BIGLY!
Despite times make desperate measures. Just as they marched out the little general against Bush Sr. (Who was done with being president). Now its RFK jr.
On another note. Husband and wife who both worked at the CIA told me at my father’s funeral the CIA only hires family and people who known by the family. ~ Godfather?
I used to think RFKjr would be a good choice for AG. He’s shown his cards now! He’s a CIA plant only in it to spoil the Trump vote.
I grew up dirt poor to two mentally crippled parents. My mother started out strong, but soon capitulated to her weakest, selfish, instincts. My father was an alcoholic and mentally crippled after joining the Army Air Corps at age 17 … and never learned how to take personal responsibility. My brother and I bounced around from dysfunctional parent to dysfunctional parent … then to our grandmother … then we both had to leave home in HS … me, after my freshman year … taken in by a dysfunctional family friend … then into Foster Care. My childhood was shit.
Where’s MY reparations? I had it far worse than at least half of the black community. I had to fight for everything I’ve got. Fight by being intelligent and strategic. Fight by getting an education. Fight by becoming a Professional. Still … where’s MY FREE SHIT!? So what if I’m white?
Bless you and I thank God you made it out of that.
Most don’t.
Kenji ,
It takes a Strong Person and Stronger State of Mind to be where You are
Today . God Bless You .
Just by knowing what You’ve written about Yourself here and on the Open ,, I’m Pretty Sure You Wouldn’t Take Any Reparations even if offered to You 😊
I certainly get Your point , though !
I am struck by the similarity of your early life to Steve McQueen’s. Have you by any chance seen, “SteveMcQueen: an American Icon.” It was made in 2017. Watched it not long ago.
You both forged something precious from hellish early experiences. Congratulations, Kenji! You’ve done a great job.
He’s a plant. The Democrats bought him off.
If Kennedy cannot get ‘r done…this guy standing in the wings might…he has designs on 1600….
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/18/pritzker-abortion-rights-think-big-america-00122159
https://washingtonpress.com/2023/10/18/big-news-il-gov-j-b-pritzker-announces-massive-democratic-swing-state-campaign/
What a putz
Trump can point to his record of creating jobs for Blacks.
Americans don’t want
hand-outs they want a hand up in creating jobs they can fill.
That hand up includes building a wall along the border, passage of corporate tax cuts and incentives to hire workers, reciprocal tariff arrangements with other countries.
Trump has this record from his first term.
It would be an easy pitch to make to a crowd.
Something like,
You’ve been sold out for decades. They always promise you things but do they deliver? Wasn’t your life, your mother’s life, your friend’s life, your father’s life better when I was president?
They have lied to you about me. They still do.
You’ve seen how many rappers have stated their support of me. I’m proud of the work Ben Carson and I did for economically challenged communities and I will continue that work again as your president. But you gotta help me get back in office.
@zerohedge
One month later:
Total US Debt is now $33.649 trillion, up $58 billion in one day and up $604 billion in one month… up $20 billion every day, up $833 million every hour.
At this rate US debt will be $41 trillion in one year.
Just wait till the 100 Trillion of Social Security and Medicare that are off the books start being spent. We are 141 Trillion in Debt.
How many black votes translate into ballots?
Some deep harvesting happens in those communities. Those ballots are already bought and paid for.
Make the Administrative State Great Again
If Kennedy gives us President Biden or Newsom and cheats out Trump he will join his uncle Teddy leaving his drowned drunk MAGA date at the bottom of the lake
Hacking into the NSA, I have managed to recover Ted Kennedy’s FaceBook entry from several years ago:
Hi there fellow bloggers. My name is United States Senator Edward Moore Kennedy from the Great State of Massachusetts. You can call me Ted if you want. I was born on February 22, 1932, although people tell me that I look at least 20 years younger.
I graduated from Harvard in June 1956 in the top 10% of my class. I also passed my law bar on my very first try.
I am one of the most senior members of that grand and much loved and respected institution known as the U.S. Senate. All my colleagues respect me and very often come to me for my wise council and advise. I must admit though that when John and Lindsey ask me to turn around and pull my pants down so that they can kiss my ass it does get a little much, but it’s gratifying anyway!
In fact I am so powerful now that I am, in many ways the defacto President of the
United States. How’s that for a boy who had to work his way through college?
I am handsome and tall with a muscular build. The ladies just can’t get enough of me. Sometimes I think it is almost a curse.
I sometimes like to chill out after a long day of serving the American people by having a double martini. Contrary to what some of my very few enemies say I never have more than one drink at a time. Well sometimes one for each hand, but that’s it, never two glasses in each hand, except on special occasions like the arrival of 3PM.
I am a lot of fun after work. I am an excellent driver and sometimes I like to go on long drives and see how many bridges I can cross without getting wet. It’s a lot of fun! All the women tell me that I am just too much!
I would like to think that I am open minded, honest, polite, and trustworthy. And I appreciate the same qualities in others.
Who I’d like to meet:
…other progressive bloggers. People who like to rock out. Cool people who live close to Washington D.C. so that we can get together and talk about how my niece
Caroline will become
duchesssenator from New York. That way Kennedy’s will have 2 out of 100 senate seats and as I always figure it’s a start. I figure Patrick should be number 3 and then we can really get going from there.LOL … All Patriots – black white & everything in between … KNOW this is a scam … only BLM-RAT voters believe this lie – it only hurts Biden !!!
“What do you call it when someone steals someone else’s money secretly? Theft. What do you call it when someone takes someone else’s money openly by force? Robbery. What do you call it when a politician takes someone else’s money in taxes and gives it to someone who is more likely to vote for him? Social Justice.” ~ Thomas Sowell
In this case RFK Jr. Wants to call that theft reparations. Sowell has also said the only thing reparations does is make other groups look with disdain on the black people that want reparations.
Does Kennedy really care about this country because if he does and he knows this effort of his helps Biden beat Trump he is one sick man. Biden for another 4 years and we won’t have much left of a country.
RFK … gloats … that he has spent a lifetime Litigating Lawsuits against corporations for violating environmental Laws. He will expand the authoritarian power of the EPA and will expand all restrictions due to “climate change”. Goodbye gasoline. Goodbye ICE autos and trucks.
All Kennedys are tools. Traitorous scumbags more interested in lining their pockets and inflating their egos.
So much for “what you can do for your country.”
i want reparations for having to listen to his broken voice….
it is a slow torture…
what happened to his voice anyway?????
In this interview RFK says he thinks the dysphonia was caused by a flu vaccine.
Later he has started saying it was a “neurological injury”. He’s already backing off the vaccine injury stance.
BTW read the NY Post article cited above – before the Black community gets all excited about getting those $$$ in the mail from Uncle Bobby – he seems to be referring more to the old “ Great Society “ about building better schools and hospitals and infrastructure yada yada in black communities …
Interesting he mentions that they were deprived of their fair treatment during the Jim Crow era , more recent than Slavery , but still a largely Democrat inspired effect . Anyway definitely muddies the waters for Dems ( BTW weren’t PDJT and Senator Tim Scott doing that essentially already )
RE: PDJT & Senator Tim Scott
Yes, “opportunity zones”
He’s just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what will stick.
Entertaining is over. Time for the clowns to leave the show and get to the main act. It’s time for our hero to kick some ever-loving tail, reclaim the White House, and expel the traitors from our country.
Let’s call it “Operation Clean Sweep”.
Growing support for Trump in the black community wasnt large or significant anyway. And dont forget all the other races who are pis sed about paying reparations and will not support this and have left the democrat party forever. It seems only blacks and misguided, self righteous and guilt ridden left wing loons support reparations
RK Jr is an attempt to appeal to MAGA conspiracy theorists. You remember MAGA conspiracy theorists? We were those getting banned and censored all across ‘right wing’ blogs for speaking of forbidden things, such as chemtrails and genocidal vaxx campaigns.
We won the nomination for candidate Trump, making him President Trump. But the republican elite still refuse to allow discussion of forbidden topics. You want to lead MAGA while censoring MAGA. That is the act of a Decepticon.
Give us free speech and the threat of Kennedy evaporates immediately. Keep censoring free speech and find yourself on the wrong side of a judgement in a wartime treason trial.
Speak free or die. Yo ho ho.