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“This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”
“But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”
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Arnaud Bertrand – How Israel Stepped Into A Trap
by Arnaud Bertrand
(Republished with the author’s permission)
One of the more interesting arguments I’ve been seeing A LOT on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is: “Hamas undoubtedly predicted Israel’s massive retaliation, that makes them all the more guilty for sacrificing Palestinian lives”.
What people don’t realize is that the fact this reaction – the massive collective punishment – was indeed immensely predictable says just as much about Israel than it does about Hamas.
It says a lot about Israel for 3 reasons. 1) It says a lot about Israel’s image that it was expected to react with massive collective punishment, violating international law. 2) It also says a lot about Israel’s inability to think strategically that it would react in exactly the way its adversary predicted it to. Revenge is not a strategy, in fact it is the opposite of strategic. And, lastly 3) it says a lot that Israel doesn’t seem to have learned a thing from the US’s immense mistakes in its post 9-11 response.
Yes, of course, it also says a lot about Hamas, because they knew their actions would undoubtedly cause untold suffering on their own people (on top of the suffering they caused with the attacks). No question there.
This looks, unfortunately, a competition for whom can gain the most sympathy from the outside world for their suffering. And from where I am standing, Israel is losing big time by playing into the hand of its adversary. Even Europe – Europe! – is on the verge today of breaking ranks with a full-on revolt at the highest levels of the bureaucracy against Von Der Leyen for her unqualified support for Israel. This is on top of renewed support for the Palestinian cause by the Muslim world, and generally the entire global South (with the notable exception of India, who pretty much runs on Islamophobia today under Modi).
From Moon of Alabama today
Spare me. Israel “stepped into the same trap” the entire Western world has stepped into. What’s that? It’s calling Islam and Muslims “moderate” … or believing in “Peace”. Nothing could be further from the Truth. And I’d dare say Islam has stepped into a trap … because the overwhelming opinion outside the Mosques is steadfastly AGAINST this recurring murder of innocents in the name of Allah or something.
The trap we’ve blundered into is the importation of this death cult into our nations. I believe “the world” stands with Israel in hopes they completely WIPE OUT this scourge.
Israel “stepped right into Hamas’ trap” exactly the way a crime victim “stepped into the criminal’s trap” by shooting him in self defense.
“That guy who committed the home invasion, raped your wife, killed your dog, WANTED to bait you into shooting him! To give BLM a big propaganda victory.”
I have to agree, that when having to choose whom to support, I’m going to choose Israel. Because I have read the ending of the book.
15-18 years ago…Israel was plagued with tons of car bombings…I think they might have reached the point of “enough is enough”?
I have to completely disagree with the 3 reasons listed in paragraph 2, especially the first one.
Retaliation for an attack in far from a violation of law.
The second reason is a BS assumption in total. And revenge is a motive not a strategy- more BS.
The third reason of Israel basing its decisions on our mistakes is a total deflection.
From where I sit, this author is nothing more than weak influence operator (propagandist) and Palestinian apologist.
You are one of the ones I really wanted to see that video I put up on the other page BK.
I saw your comment on it but haven’t viewed yet.
I’ll go back in a while and check it out.
Watched all but last 3-4 minutes.
Material I’ve already seen in the past.
It does seem like things are materializing as he predicted.
I’ll have to ask you to come back to that on another day and explain my friend. Cheers
The Chuck Schumers & Co are in truth, double dealing the Israeli people and Jewish Americans here. They are perhaps more desperate to keep the American jews on the Democrat Dialectic plantation than perhaps they are with the Black Americans who are also waking up to their being manipulated and used by these same frauds who wear different color masks to their community. We are all being manipulated by very evil people. All good people should unite
Democratic Party-controlled cities, like Baltimore: “open air prisons”!
I hope you saw my article about the Black college in Baltimore erecting a wall to keep out Black democrat criminals. Regards
Well said, spot on and true to the bone Colkitto! Thank you for sharing your thinking.
The Chuck Schumers & Co have to keep both their Jewish donors and BLM- ANTIFA activist armies focused on hating President Trump!
Expect a false flag attack on one group or the other blamed on White Christian Republicans to unite the Left.
Yes, we should unite. You may like this. It not on Rumble so you tube it is.
In this time (cover) – Conspiracy Music Guru – YouTube
So Israel was to do nothing for the inhuman actions of subhuman animals. I call bs to the whole premise.
Horseshit.
Collective evil demands collective punishment.
Reads like something you would see on Zerohedge post by a commie leftist, living the life of International Man!
This is not collective punishment. Period.
The bombings are targeted at Hamas facilities and leadership.
There have been warnings and grace periods for Palestinian civilians to evacuate to the south of Gaza.
As somebody who lived in Houston for 35 years where hurricanes tend to hit, the evacuation orders are to protect the people, not to punish them.
Oh, PUH-LEEZE. The Left in Europe is full-on Hamas supporters. “Breaking with Isreal” implies they ever stood with Israel in the first place, which they didn’t.
The article is assuming Israel is going to go scorched earth in Gaza.
I think Israel will adapt as needed but will do a complete and thorough job if eliminating Hamas.
How does the author know that the invasion prep is not a fake to push Hamas leadership to an accessible location.
So many variables to contemplate but the author whittles down to a three reasons why Israel is bad?
Propoganda!
“Israel doesn’t seem to have learned a thing from the US’s immense mistakes in its post 9-11 response.”
Our mistake was not realizing that 9/11 was SPONSORED by our own Deep State to foster Endless War abroad while enacting the Patriot Act here to fight American patriots.
After escorting his Saudi owners safely out of America, Bush once sponsored Honest Purple-Finger Elections in Iraq, while abandoning them here at home. Perhaps the Final Act was Obama engineering our Pre-Emptive Unconditional Surrender in Afghanistan, lavishing weapons, cash and Intell on his Taliban Partners. And, of course, punishing those who helped us by turning them over to the Taliban. Obama regarded them as traitors to Islam.
And at the same time, treating his American political opponents as The Real Terrorists.
Your Day is Coming, Paddle Boy.
Habakkuk 2
8 Because you have plundered many nations,
all the remnant of the people will plunder you,
because of the bloodshed of men and violence of the land,
of the cities and all who live in them.
9 “Woe to him who gets evil gain for his house,
to set his nest on high,
to be delivered from the power of calamity!”
10 You have given shameful counsel to your house
by cutting off many peoples,
and forfeiting your life.
11 For the stone will cry out from the wall,
and the beam of the woodwork will answer it.
12 “Woe to him who builds a town with bloodshed
and establishes a city on murder!”
13 Is it not from the Lord of Hosts
that the people labor to feed fire,
and the nations weary themselves for nothing?
14 For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord,
as the waters cover the seas.
Praise God!
>>>>> “Florida Republican Rep. Brian Mast wore his Israeli Defense Forces uniform to Capitol Hill on Friday.” <<<<<
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There may be some questions we should be asking ourselves here. Uncomfortable questions for some of us, but important all the same.
I'd recommend Israel think harder about defending their border and citizens, which they clearly failed to do here. And perhaps Congressman Mast can go to his country and do that.
And perhaps the US could take a lesson from Israel's failure here and Mast's call to duty and defend its border and citizens from invasion as well.
I do not know much of the US visa process, but with regards to point 1, I would not be letting them in.
Isn’t he the guy that lost two legs fighting for this Country? That being said, I don’t think he should have worn that uniform in the halls of Congress.
Mast gave up both legs fighting in Afghanistan in the US Army. He can wear whatever he wants to the Capitol.
No, he really can’t. And in a previous era, he would have been charged criminally for joining a foreign military.
Taqiyya.
Moon of Alabama, the former German tank commander, does have useful information about Ukraine, but he is another one that comments on stuff outside his wheelhouse.
He made the absolutist statement that there is “no archeological evidence regarding Israel’s history or claim to the land”. So he appears to be a default hate Israel all the time for everything dude.
So he may not be the best source or opinionator on this topic.
Fights over land have been going on since the beginning of time. And they are seldom peaceful.
Indeed, look what happened in the former Yugoslavia that I know of. How is that working out, not good still a very close to war in Kosovo and Metohija. God Bless Kosovo. Clinton and his terrorists Kosovars, Albanians. As the old geezer Kissinger now says, not good to mix races, religions. As the Serbs would say now it came from is ass to his brain, brilliant or a sort of repenting for all evil he has was involved in. Henry soon you will meet up with Madeline Albright enjoy your conversations, Angela should follow along with many others. F wars.
Donna, make sure you read the following. I truly am sorry for what was done to our Orthodox Christian brothers & sisters in the Balkans. They were the ones really fighting the War On Terror. My regards ma’am
“For example, in the 1999 Kosovo war, Britain secretly trained militants in the KLA who were working closely with al-Qaida fighters. One KLA unit was led by the brother of Ayman al-Zawahiri, then Bin Laden’s right-hand man. The British provided military training for the KLA at secret camps in Kosovo and Albania where jihadist fighters also had their military centre.”
Britain’s collusion with radical Islam: Interview with Mark Curtis
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/britain-s-collusion-with-radical-islam-interview-with-mark-curtis/
They will have a very warm meeting indeed.
Arnaud Bertrand does not know what he is talking about. The atrocity Hamas perpetrated was just too much. Not even the Europeans (save the EU bureaucrats, and the true communists/leftists and of course some left-over nazis) are able to unsee what has been going on. When has a British Home Secretary ever said something like this:
British Home Secretary:
“To all those who saw fit to promote genocide, glorify terrorism and mock the murder of Jews, including women and babies – the police are on their way to you”
Britain’s Home Secretary, Suala Braverman, expressed unreserved support for Israel on X (formerly Twitter)
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C’mon….. this has all been instigated and pushed by the military industrial complex globalists. The more weapons that are used, the more money goes into their pockets. They don’t care where or who gets destroyed. This is all about money and control.
I think this is a much better summary than Mr. Bertrand’s. Personally, I don’t agree with his opinion that Israel’s reaction (response?) shows its inability to think strategically. Hamas is a bloodthirsty, monstrous enemy that Israel must defeat.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/10/its-time-to-crush-gaza.php
What were they supposed to do? Leave their country? Offer more children as sacrifices? Gadzooks.
Baloney
:And, lastly 3) it says a lot that Israel doesn’t seem to have learned a thing from the US’s immense mistakes in its post 9-11 response.”
Hmm. Somewhere within the Israeli Deep State, they did MORE than learn about 9-11, they emulated it to a T.
Possibly what you might not have thought about is this is an existential moment for both Israel and the Muslim world. Israel will never allow a Holocaust again. They developed thermo nuclear weapons to guarantee that. If the Muslim world wants to cease to exist then they should try and come close to succeeding to destroy Israel, the Muslim world will be destroyed.
Supreme Court to consider conservative effort to block federal power and a challenge to ‘qualified immunity’ for police officers
https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/10/13/politics/administrative-power-chevron-precedent-qualified-immunity-supreme-court/index.html?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16973068554799&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2023%2F10%2F13%2Fpolitics%2Fadministrative-power-chevron-precedent-qualified-immunity-supreme-court%2Findex.html
Last week – for perhaps the first time in my life as a Catholic – I heard a priest speak out from the pulpit that it was time to wake up and start voting PRO-LIFE!
No more compromises, no more “looking at the bigger picture,” simply VOTE against the forces of Infanticide, i.e. The Communist DEMS and their allies.
It was refreshing!
It is refreshing. Relevant Radio, a Catholic program, often has pro life and conservative political viewpoints
Meanwhile our local monsignor spoke of the faithful in all religions, including “those faithful in Hamas!”
I kid you not. Musta been a fan of Frankie this past week.
Also shows his ignorance of islam.
Disclaimer: I am Christian, but not RC.
Retired Magistrate here: Our pastor has been educating everyone on the horrors of Issue No. 1: constitutional amendment that would permit abortion up until birth for any reason; 2) parental consent not necessary for minors and 3) taking away the common sense precautions that abortion clinics have to have a legal relationship with a hospital so if something goes wrong with the abortion the patient can be transported in order to save her life from the botched abortion.
I saw a commercial for “yes” on Issue 1 the other day. A pastor (yes a real pastor from a liberal church) stating that Issue 1 is just fine; that it is up to each family to decide what is right. Of course what he doesn’t mention is that the parents wouldn’t know about it due to the elimination of parental consent and that you are killing a baby. It was just disgusting.
Unfortunately I think Issue 1 will pass due to the misinformation being presented and the fact that so many people are upset about what the legislature tried to do in August: amend the Ohio Constitution so that it would take 60% to amend the Ohio Constitution rather than the current 51% which has been in place for over 100 years. The legislature tied it into the abortion issue which confused many people and ticked off the rest.
If Issue 1 passes, Ohio will become an abortion mill. Of course we also have Issue 2 which also legalizes weed. If Ohio votes yes for these 2 issues, we will have lost our collective minds.
And all your governor can say is “it goes too far” and “isn’t right for Ohio.” If he was serious all he would need to consider is who is supporting it. But again he’s the same guy that worshipped at the heels of Amy Acton.
A vague, tepid, pusillanimous ad indeed, from a tepid RINO!
Lies about Issue 1 abound, lies promoted by the DEMS of course. e.g. They claim that if Issue 1 is not approved, ectopic pregnancies will have to be allowed and thereby kill the mother. NOT TRUE!
Issue 2 promotes marijuana, because we need more people bombed out of their minds, dysfunctional, unproductive, and eventually sick in some way, to be hospitalized via our tax dollars.
Mrs. Ausonius is dealing with young mothers, whose idiotic smoking of marijuana during the 9 months of pregnancy has damaged their babies.
So, sure, let’s have more low I.Q. children with learning disabilities created by marijuana use.
Not sure this is the right thread, but it’s about culture often promoted by the current administration.
In the mail this weekend, I received an Amazon Holiday 2023 catalog addressed to “Current Resident”. The cover was immediately offputting as the purple glitter painted eyes, the crystal-studded super long purple fingernails and the nose ring were not too my taste. I did look through the catalog, though. Models featured atrociously (freakishly?) dressed POC, some overtly LGBTQ+, displaying wares for offer via Amazon.
I’ve been slimed!!!
Well, this is a warning to me and perhaps to us all: Screen what mail comes into your home. Amazon catalogs are not wholesome. If you want to keep Christ in Christmas, look elsewhere.
Anyone who knows that Jesus, the Christ, is actually the great I AM, isn’t their target market, of course.
Hmmm, so not much different than their homepage website I hear. Thank you DellaC.
You are on the right thread. Thank you.
What should MAGA populist government/legislation/rule-making look like?
Biden’s FTC, it pains me to say, is justifiably racking up points left and right on the prohibition of hidden fees in banking and other business transactions. Ideally Congress-critters would take a lead in creating legislation to curtail these fees, rather than leave the issue to “rules” makers (who admittedly have authority to make these rules).
Why aren’t Republicans in the lead on this? Of course, you know the reason why. $ $ $ $ $
See the invaluable Substack “BIG,” an anti-monopoly news source (including on the Google suit) at
https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/ending-junk-fees-the-most-annoying?r=hhuwb
Ending Junk Fees, the Most Annoying Thing in American CommerceCheating is pervasive in American business, epitomized by the junk fee. Finally, FTC Chair Lina Khan and CFPB Director Rohit Chopra are pushing back with rules barring hidden fees.MATT STOLLER
OCT 14, 2023
“The answer is that, in the Bush, Obama, and Trump administration, regulators and enforcers believed that such cheating was just how business was done, and it would have been inappropriate to stop it. Indeed, late last year, Republican FTC Commissioner Christine Wilson disagreed with the idea of a junk fee ban, and wrote a dissent opposing it. . . . ”
“Changing that libertarian dynamic took a lot of political work, and still faces aggressive insider political backlash, with lobbyists and lawyers swarming to protect their clients’ deceptive business models. Auto dealers, the casino lobby, banks, online travel agents, national advertisers, title insurers, home and auto insurers, motorcycle dealers, credit insurers, credit unions, and fintech firms are all opposed to the crackdown on junk fees. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce claimed that an FTC ban on junk fees is an illegal use of government power, and it may sue to block the rule.
“Here, for instance, is the casino lobby’s comment on why such junk fees “make for an elevated travel experience, with an attention to detail valued by guests. . . . “
This looks like to me that they’re trying to find an item, a vehicle it you will, to get people to rally around them for the next election. It’s all theater. These fees didn’t just pop up there today or yesterday. The bank has always had fees.
Unless my share runs to about $20,000, it is as a vapor. That is what they owe me for living through Jimmy Carter’s economy.
Junk fees?
You mean like a fees to tax people who don’t buy certain gubt overpriced “healthcare” insurance plans?
Or fees to keep Americans from going to work unless they take a known damaging non-vaccine?
Or fees to take fake tests that pretend you do or do not have a flu like virus before you can work.
Or fees that allow you to work without taking the damaging non-vax?
Or gubt fees to get licenses to do business, that are purely subjective and can apparently be cancelled on a whim?
Or fees charged to businesses who would not cowtow to a fake prolonged scamdemic shutdown?
Those kinds of fees?
They have no leg to stand on. Tell them to FJB.
Northeastern North Carolina is awash in OBAMACARE signs. That part of the country has gone completely BLUE.
I felt sick because I visited my brother and SIL there near the VA border. I was bombarded all weekend with reasons I should hate Israel and have concern for Palestinians. They watch way too much CNN and believe the propaganda.
Aside from that, my SIL is a special needs teacher and I just realized after this weekend, it’s because she IS a special needs person. She went to Israel one time and now she’s an expert on all things Gaza Strip.
When I left, I thanked them for allowing me to visit with family while all the threats were happening. My brother said “WHAT THREATS?”
Need I say more? I think people in this country like them are more of a threat to us than hamas is. But I have nobody else because Biden killed them all.
Were you the only sane individual in your family to not get the poison injection, Dixie?
Yes, I think you are right about leftists ,or sympathizers for every cause, being more of a threat to us than hamas is.
Hmmm…seriously considering NC as a new destination. Maye not?
“Environmentalism” . Watch the commercials, you will see a similar “Foreshadowing” of what they have planned for America
That’s the whole purpose of the odious 1965 Immigration Act pushed by the odious Senator Ted Kennedy which preferred POC from third world hellholes in order to turn America brown!!! White Europeans wanting to immigrate were last on the list sent to the back of line!! That Act needs to be repealed if we are to survive! How about we stop all immigration until we assimilate the legal immigrates already here and remove the 7+ million illegal aliens ChiCom Joe invited here!!! JMO
we did not invite or offer the christian dutch farmers from africa safe havens while russia did
How much of our farmland is even available to individual farmers anymore?
Pat Buchanan has been the only Presidential candidate I ever heard talk about repealing that.
I can relate very well to the following quote. I have been illegally denied numerous jobs where I was the best candidate. I felt like a Rhodesian for a long time
[W]hite America is an endangered species. By 2020, whites over 65 will out-number those 17 and under. Deaths will exceed births. The white population will begin to shrink and, should present birth rates persist, slowly disappear.
Pat Buchanan— Suicide of a Superpower
Someone should get President Trump’s ear about this blatantly discriminatory Fed Immigration Act!!!
Genocide of a Superpower.
Great post Bobby, I wish we had somebody running for president who believed in that.
We did long ago mate
It’s already happened Colkitto. Go visit NE NC. I can share with you a precise town which is a prime example. There is not a single white person running for the town council (signs everywhere today) and there have been none on it for several years resulting in the main street being all boarded up. It use to be a sweet thriving little town. I’m heart sick about it.
I have heard Erie PA is on that track ma’am. I love NC. Ty for your comment always good to hear from you
Outrageous.. this needs to be stopped!! https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/ice-admits-5-7-million-migrants-in-us-biden-rrm/amp
Next step will be to register them to vote!
Nah … pre-stamped ballot barrage … unexamined … is all that’s necessary.
True. They need ballots, not voters.
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Enjoin the USPS from performing un-Constitutional handling of fraudulent ballots!
Those are the only circulating items they don’t manage to crew up.
After the fascist biden regime forces banks to give them loans.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/biden-regime-threatens-banks-that-refuse-give-credit/
Nope, they only need the head count per registration district. The votes can be allotted at the Board of Elections.
All JoBama policies need to be stopped.
More like 10 million illegal aliens, plus the so-called gotaways. “Migrants” is just code for illegal aliens.
Who’s going to stop em? Certainly not the US diaper patrol.
The key word in Obama’s statement is “embarrassed.” To the contrary, Barry was very proud of his scandals and corruption. He got away with it.
“Mission Accomplished.”
We’ve gotta admit. Trump HAS made bad social media posts from time to time. Like this one.
#IDONTStandWithBibi
So you favor standing with Hamas Palestinian terrorists?
No, I just want Netanyahu to get his due reward for intentionally allowing Hamas to attack Israel.
Is it possible that Israel has its own deep state working above and despite him, just as Trump did?
That’s my line of thought. I am not saying it is, just that their could be a possibility. I admit to be disappointed that he was one of the first leaders to congratulate Biden on stealing the election while Putin was one of the last if not the last.
Actually Netanyahu was one of the last as well, but I honestly could care less what number he was at this point. I refuse to use that as a litmus test.
Considering that Netanyahu has repeatedly colluded with our own Deep State, I don’t think he’s being undermined. I think he’s in on it.
Netanyahu has a parliament to deal with, not a majority party. The conservatives have wanted extreme action, but the liberal parties seeking “unity” have to this point forced them into the “mow the lawn” policy. Netanyahu’s brother, Jonathan, was murdered by the PLFP in the Entebbe raid: I am certain he long has wanted their total destruction.
Honestly the whole thing stinks and I wonder about that – only time will tell. Initially some rarely activated part of my brain was shrieking “Trap! Trap!” as in it’s a trap for the US. But clearly it’s a trap for Israel as well.
And would you have stood with Churchill pre December 1941?
I honestly don’t know.
WE don’t have to admit to anything in regards to what you think Trump is wrong about.
Speak for yourself! Oh, you did and we can see where you stand.
Got it. You stand with Hamas. Kind of a gutless way for you to say it, but your point is made.
Great catch = gutless.
I don’t stand with Hamas. I stand with Israel. But I DON’T stand with Bibi.
Who’s “we”? Your opinion. Do you have friends? Then, some friend you are.
You don’t like Trump. Your opinion on what Trump said – your freedom of speech does not make it fact. The scandals as illustrated by MarPo202 are facts. Are you friends of Hamas Palestinians terrorists? All terrorists? Why don’t you address that?
“We” is a typical post that I see on lefty sites like mediaite. They use it to appear “unified”. Ill add that they use it because they cant think for themselves either.
I say ‘wee’ in their context is a pig’s squeal
I want Trump to continue attacking Netanyahu like he was before.
Comment deleted by Admin…
Why? Because I dared to criticize the leader of a foreign country who is covertly anti-Trump?
You just violated this site’s rules. No personal attacks. Ever.
Why are you here?
Because I believe in America First.
Stormfront wants you home.
For some reason I doubt I’d be welcome there.
Oh leave him alone.
Why don’t YOU run for President and show us how.
You will be unable to turn this party into an Israel hating party. It is not in our DNA.
I’m not anti-Israel. I’m anti-Netanyahu. I want Trump to end that man’s career.
And if President Trump doesn’t do what you want and say what you want as soon as you want, you feel justified in criticizing him?
By the way, notice I said President Trump. When your leader is fighting with everything he’s got, the least you can do is show respect.
But maybe he’s not your leader?
I know Trump has more in his arsenal than what he’s used.
I’m not pro-Hamas. I’m just anti-Netanyahu.
Careful, G-Pol. People on this site have zero tolerance for opinions that stray from the site’s narrative. I think that you’ve made your point super clear multiple times that you don’t actually have an opposing viewpoint, but it seems that many posters love to jump on the bandwagon without reading the entire thread first and are quick to spew hate on to others.
You sound personally confused or unable to even comprehend what you yourself are saying. Advising another person with … “hate spew on to others being this site’s narratives?
YOU :”many posters love to jump on the bandwagon without reading the entire thread first and are quick to spew hate on to others; and then some ..”
“Site’s narrative”? Is that the best you can do? Would you call this a question or another hate jump?
Your post is confusing to me. Am not certain how to answer, but will try.
Site’s narrative”? Is that the best you can do?
This is a rhetorical question, IMO. Sounds more like a personal attack on my intelligence rather than a true question. Which is ironic as the entire point of my first post was to highlight how many, not all, posters on this forum are resorting to personal attacks when they read anything that sounds contrary to the current day’s leading storyline (what I call the “site’s narrative”). And personal attacks are strictly forbidden on this site, according the rules by the site’s owner.
Would you call this a question or another hate jump?
I don’t know what a “hate jump” is, but I am absolutely certain there is nothing in my original post that was a question. Otherwise I would have ended a sentence with a question mark. Is there any way that I could please have a third option, or is “hate jump” (which sounds bad to me) my only other choice?Lastly, the quote that you attributed to me added a few words at the end that I did not write. Probably a typo, but just wanted to point it out.
All people….some people? You are painting us with a rather broad brush…
I wrote “people” and further clarified later in the same paragraph with mention of “many posters”.
I am surprised that you were confused and thought that I possibly felt that ALL people on this site have zero tolerance. So, please let me clarify for you and others that might have this same question:
Per my earlier posting, I wish to amend my statement to the following:
SOME people, not all, on this site have zero tolerance…
Hopefully, this reduces the size of the paint brush quite a bit.
Snark aside, my post has more to do with the monkey pile (of some posters, not all) that was delivered to G-Pol, including some personal attacks (which I see that you took care of) despite his clarifications which seemed to me fair and an honest opinion.
IMO, emotions are high and some people, not all, are quick to lash out at others who might offer a different perspective or opinion from the lead story.
The snark is not appreciated JustMe. I’m only attempting to keep Treehouse discourse pleasant and constructive. Both you and G-pol have been given more than enough time and leeway in expressing your opinions, and as long as people reply without name-calling they have every right to respond.
There is a poster on Breitbart that goes by the name of “justme”. A real smarmy character that really loves Neocon Ron. Couldn’t possibly be the same troll could it?
No. I am definitely not a neocon nor do I visit Breitbart.
Agreed! I like that everyone has a chance to respond. Even those with different opinions that buck the trend. Makes this site very good. I welcome those outside whatever bubble a group finds themselves in.
WE read his comment of Trump’s Truth Social post and his comment real well.
And believe it or not, we are mostly a well educated, well informed group.
ie WE READ HIS SHORT COMMENT (thread) PERFECTLY!
And no one is ‘hating’ on anyone other than you ‘haring’ us for countering what we disagree with.
I would say “nice try” as I often do, but your defense/deflection doesn’t even meet the criteria for that.
Black Knight,
I believe that this forum is populated by a well educated, well informed group. I was not questioning anyone’s education or information level. I find it curious that you would start your post with this comment.
I was commenting only on the personal attacks that some posters were making on this particular poster’s comments that seemed to not fall exactly in line with the majority-led storyline. I think Sundance refers to this as “wrong-think” or something akin to the 1984 saga.
Regarding my use of the word “hate”: It seems to me that your definition of “hate” and mine differ. These are the exact quotes from the posters who responding to G-Pol:
“Comment deleted by Admin…” (Cannot show this one, as it’s gone as it violated this sites rules. But it was, IIRC, a comment that aimed to ridicule and embarrass G-Pol. I call this a hate comment and reserve the right to decide what crosses the line and what doesn’t.)
“gutless”
“Are you friends of Hamas Palestinians terrorists? All terrorists?” (calling someone a terrorist sympathizer definitely falls into the “hate” comment category. Again, your opinion may differ)
[G-Pol’s comments are equated to a] “pig’s squeal” (or something like that, not exactly sure what the poster was saying, but it sounded like a personal attack to me. Kind of hateful, IMO.)
So, I disagree with your opinion that no one was hating anyone. I believe some people were “hating” on someone. I felt that I was pointing out the aggressive name-calling as a violation of this site’s rules. I do not believe that my action of pointing out other’s violations is in itself hateful. Again, your opinion can differ.
Not sure what defense/deflection you are referring to as I only had my initial post. I would think that my first attempt to defend and deflect your post is, well, THIS post. Looks like I am destined to not receive a “nice try” from you.
Yeah, I think we got that.
I offended the censors here for which I apologize but personally I’m still in the questioning all stage. Today’s news of holding off on ground offensive for weather when the forecast for there is spotty rain – just nothing is sitting right with me on this situation and I am willing and trying to listen and learn but it’s a slow process especially when you don’t know what is wrong with what you wrote. I’m seeing a new level of AI looking to keep us in our prescribed boxes and silencing conciliatory voices. I was also censored elsewhere for expressing pleasure that our democrat lesbian AG here in AZ is being effective in saving our water supply from a Saudi contract that gives them way too much of it. I’m glad that she’s successful in that effort regardless of who she is but I must stay in my prescribed box for someone’s nefarious purpose therefore censored. It’s beyond creepy when I see AI removing punctuation and capitalization which has the potential to change my entire meaning – didn’t happen here – just expressing doubt about everything. I’ve spent way too much time on internet trying to understand so I’m going to just put it down and be dumb and look up recipes. I’m not willing to judge or be hostile to G-Pol just yet because I don’t have consistent years of knowledge built up because life got in the way and for me the question is still legitimate. Sorry.
Ok. This is your response to diagram. So not pro-Hamas…….but a dem, blm, and antifa?
None of the above. Just a disaffected independent who left the GOP because of all the RINOs.
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Netanyahu has been fighting against the Israeli Deep State leftists for years. So… we don’t like his attempts to suckup to anti-Trump forces but — out of fear? different considerations for a different country? stupidity? another reason? And Trump is pissed at Netanyahu’s disloyalty and missteps. But Netanyahu is not “anti-Trump”.
Can we please stop with the simplistic all this or all that unnuanced concrete thinking.
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If Netanyahu wasn’t anti-Trump, he wouldn’t have colluded with Bolton and Pompeo to try to sabotage Trump’s efforts at rapprochement with Iran.
And if Netanyahu wasn’t anti-Trump, he wouldn’t be using proxies to help astroturf Ron DeSantis.
Sounds like you must have been visiting my brother and SIL too? Huh? You’ve been making posts like that since even before I left for the weekend. Sounds like you are having trouble with exactly WHAT you believe.
No, my aunt and uncle were the ones visiting. But they weren’t visiting your brother and sister-in-law. They were visiting Israel. On the same day they arrived, the war that Netanyahu intentionally allowed to happen began. They were stranded in downtown Tel-Aviv for four days, and their lives were in danger every second of those four days.
This is the daughter and son-in-law of my recently-deceased grandfather I’m talking about. He died of cancer back in March, but had it not been for that cancer he absolutely would’ve been alive to see this happen. And that may well have killed him.
This is the sister and brother-in-law of my mother I’m talking about. The last time I saw my mom and aunt saw each other, they were arguing over how my grandfather’s doctors treated him during his last days. It got heated, and there were still tensions when my aunt flew back to Colorado. Had my aunt been killed in Israel, my mom’s last in-person memory of her sister would’ve been getting into an argument with her.
This is the mother and stepfather of two of my cousins I’m talking about. They lost their dad unexpectedly back in March, just ten days before my grandfather passed. The older cousin is married with two kids, who would’ve lost both of their paternal grandparents back to back, both in unexpected circumstances. The younger cousin has been very depressed since his dad and grandfather died back to back, he barely communicates with us anymore and had he lost his mother it would’ve destroyed him.
My family has had enough grief for a while, and Benjamin Netanyahu’s political games nearly brought upon us more of it…
I’ve never been a fan of Congressional muppets speaking out of both sides of their mouths like the fake Israel supporters & Jewish people representatives headed by Chuck Schumer. They and their Council On Foreign Relations masters, are playing the Hegelian Dialectic game of supporting Iran, and taking out the real supporters of Israel & the jewish people, PDJT & MAGA, while than claiming they are supporting Israel and the Jewish people.
Perzactly!!! That is why whenever I see all the usual suspects on ANY bus, I never get on said bus… I do not ever want to find myself on the same bus with them. Their destination is always hell.
Neocon Bill Kristol wants repubs to work with dems to elect Jeffries as Speaker.
The destruction of the status quo is important. I kinda hope they do it because it allows the average voter to understand that there are not two parties in this country. There is a Government Party. The Republicans’ only purpose is to protect the Government Party from us.
Kristol is so desperate to stop us that he’s willing to force a bunch of 5th Column Republicans to decloak.
It’s also why a floor vote for Speaker should be forced and Trump should make it a MAGA referendum. Vote against his guy, and you are not MAGA. No money for you, but you do get primaried and Trump campaigns for your replacement in your district.
As fast as Krystol goes, one of the many blessings of Trump was forcing that fraud out of Conservative politics.
The more we can get these duplicitous suits to unmask themselves, the more effective our swamp draining becomes.
Kristol’s warning that neoconservatives could go to Kerry was an admission of what many have long recognized. The neoconservatives are not really conservatives at all. They are impostors and opportunists.
Pat Buchanan— Where the Right Went Wrong
“The neoconservatives are not really conservatives at all. They are impostors and opportunists.”
… warmongers
Schmuck.
https://voxday.net/2023/10/15/from-the-maine-to-the-maddox/
“The stage has been set for another Gulf of Tonkin-style incident. Remember, from the USS Maine to the USS Morton, false flags and fake enemy attacks at sea is how the USA customarily justified its foreign wars.”
“In fact, the USA staged not one, but two Gulf of Tonkin incidents in order to justify its war in Vietnam. Two days prior, the USS Maddox had also had a confrontation with North Vietnamese torpedo boats after repeatedly intruding upon Vietnam’s territorial waters in an attempt to provoke the Vietnamese into firing at it.
“So don’t fall for whatever naval event is being staged in the eastern Mediterranean in the coming weeks, or the solemn pronouncements about how “we are at war”.”
VD: “The following is from a book about baseball, of all things.”
(“The Pentagon had some doubts as to whether the attacks ever did take place, and there was censorship of letters from American seamen on the two ships who tried to write home that they had not been attacked. One sailor, whose letter got through the censorship, wrote that North Vietnamese ships were sighted. We shot at them, the sailor wrote home. “They didn’t shoot at us. Johnson, gearing the country for war, coerced Congress, citing the attack on our ships, into backing his escalation of the fighting in Vietnam.
“Before the Tonkin Gulf incident, only 190 U.S. soldiers had been killed. “Before I send American G.I.’s into war,” Johnson said, “I must consider every facet very carefully.” After Johnson’s term, 25,000 American soldiers lay dead in the hostile rice paddies of a devastated country.”)
Zelensky orders reporters to keep silent about corruption – Ukrainian media
The Ukrainian president told journalists not to mention the issue until the end of the Russia-Ukraine conflict, according to a leading Kiev outlet. The president reportedly made the request after the Ukrainian press published reports about inflated food prices paid by the country’s armed forces.
Last week, the former president of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, stated that Ukraine will likely be unable to join the EU anytime soon because it is “corrupt at all levels of society.”
Well look here folks! We have an idiot opening his mouth.
Something about that dude that doesn’t quite add up.
https://dailycaller.com/2023/10/13/dave-portnoy-nikki-haley-israel/
He’s as dumb as a rock. Maybe Nikki asked him for a date. She looks about his speed for another sex video.
Ask her out if you’re so impressed. I heard she loves having affairs behind her serviceman husband’s back. Or maybe in front. Who knows what really goes on in her “married” world.
Interesting search results for “Haley Pence” on ggle images. The “whisper” photo not only one conveying a camaraderie relationship. Look for the one where seems She appears to be talking to him ventriloquist style like a spouse or inside friend would. Or how about the ones where shere looks at him like a crushing schoolgirl….compile the handful of the pics together and well they are more “together” as power couple than only seen once with his wife. Just pictures. Of course just mean gossip as heis a man of faith that avoids close one-on-one with any woman other than wife.
He’s so arrogant he often misses the truth, that’s what.
From Aurorus Borealus
2 hrs ago-
The IDF fears moving into Gaza. Over half of IDF soldiers are women!
The IDF is an air force and a tank-army with an infantry contingent. In the rubble-strewn streets of Gaza, those tanks will be useless and the air force not terrible effective at doing anything except creating more rubble to obstruct the movement of the tanks.
The composition of the Israeli military is also highly suspect. This is a conscript army. However, the most nationalistic (zionist) elements of Israeli society are exempt from front-line service in the Hesder, which leaves an conscription pool that grows more liberal, less convinced of their “Jewish” identity, and more sympathetic to the Palestinians with each day. The short conscription time (less than 2 years for most women) barely allows time for soldiers to train and then acclimate themselves to military life let alone achieve sufficient skill to be considered anything but green. To make matters worse, most of the Israeli military today spends its time doing routing police work in settlements scattered across the West Bank and neither the time nor inclination to train for serious large-scale combat maneuvers.
Finally, the elephant in the room is that the Israeli military today is majority female. I know that in the delusional world of English-language speakers, women are just magnificent at everything: super duper even. However, reality betrays the delusion. A mountain of studies over the past 2 decades tells us that women make poor soldiers. In general, even with physical training, they cannot carry the loads necessary to carry out many military activities. The lack of testosterone makes their “fight-or-flight” reaction to adrenaline more likely to result in anxiety or flight than the aggressive “fight” response that military absolutely depend upon for combat effectiveness.
Israel does not place most women in front-line position except as light-support infantry (sort of a home-guard)– except for 2 brigades which have a checkered history of combat effectiveness, so what they do, in effect, is “make work” for the women. Their 170,000 person military is more like 85,000 actual soldiers and 85,000 make work positions for affirmative action hires. The body of reservists is an equally mixed bag. What this does, however, is tie up about 85,000 sets of personnel gear (rucksacks, body armor, etc… ) on full-time troops who cannot use this gear to be effective front-line troops, and ensures that there is not enough to go around for the reservists.
The IDF is not the army that it once was, and while it may succeed in occupying northern Gaza for a time, it will take heavy casualties, which will set the liberal Jews at the throats of their more expansionist and conservative neighbors (who are exempt from military service). Having liberals of dubious national loyalty and women fight your battles, while your nationalist zealots sit at home studying the Talmud is no recipe for victory.
More taqiyya.
Okay, so you’re saying that the IDF isn’t 50% women?
“The Hamas was no match for an intrepid 25-year-old Israeli woman — who saved an entire kibbutz from harm by leading a group of residents to kill more than two dozen advancing terrorists, including five she slaughtered herself.”
https://nypost.com/2023/10/10/israeli-woman-25-hailed-as-hero-for-killing-terrorists-leading-security-team-at-kibbutz/
…just like the Ghost of Kyiv who shot down 10 Russian MIGs! LOL
Not sure where you’re getting your info from but it doesn’t seem correct. First, the Israeli military includes all its reservists of which they just called up 360,000. Most of those are men. Women need to do service time after HS but don’t have to remain in the reserves like men do.
Roaring borealis to use.Carla from Cheers line about Cliff
Like many I’m sure, I am mystified by Jewish support for ‘social democrats’, O’Biden etc. it would be hard to think of policies or philosophy more anti Semitic. I can say that about anyone supporting them but the Jewish people, I don’t get it.
Democratic socialists.
Really? You do not get it? I would suggest that when one hears the label jew one assumes that person to be a conservative, religious person.
Jews have a long history of falling away from matters of true religion and the one true GOD.
For example, the rave that was attacked, did you see the footage of the event?
They had a budda statue, a big one, at that event. What do you imagine the one true GOD is going to do with that idolatry?
Jews are largely still wandering in the desert, a lost people.
Until they come to terms with the truth concerning the one true GOD, this is going to be the norm.
Wars and rumors of wars…
Is it not interesting that Dennis Cuccinich is out at RFKjr’s campaign and DIL CIA spook is in?
Dennis once complained that the CIA was bugging him and the legislative cloakrooms.
Whatever one thinks of Dennis Kucinich (He did rail against the bailout of Wall st and not Main St) the Obama/Traitors in Intell did spy on him. He came out in support of Trump’s claims because he said it happened to him also
I think Dennis was more sympathetic to the Palestinians than allowed by the news media and donors m
I liked Dennis for his stance with the US/NATO war crimes against the Serbs
Dennis Kucinich: How the war machine took over the Democratic PartyAnti-war positions used to be possible within the Democratic Party. What happened?
https://therealnews.com/dennis-kucinich-how-the-war-machine-took-over-the-democratic-party
Huh? Who are the spooks?
It is interesting.
He’s appointing his daughter-in-law, Amaryllis Kennedy. She specializes in leveraging volunteers and other computerized campaign work.
Formerly founder and CEO of natural language processing startup Mulu and Head of Product for Twitter’s consumer commerce division, Amaryllis brings immense experience growing and optimizing dynamic teams, leveraging cutting-edge digital engagement, and building energized communities at scale.
https://mulutech.com
Mulu has offices in the U.S. and Ethiopia.
Amaryllis Kennedy was Amaryllis Hope Fox nee Amaryllis Damerell Thornber and did (sic) indeed work for the CIA.
Oy vey, it looks like Sundance was right again!
This issue is honestly not resolvable until one side removes the other.
Either Israel must remove Palestinians from claimed territories or vice versa.
A two state solution is not possible because powerful people in Israel and Palestine do not want it and even more powerful forces like Iran etc do not want it.
That is the brutal truth. Ordinary Jews and Palestinian folks could make a two state solution work but the psycopaths ruling them , and in the USA, Iran, Saudia etc , will not allow it.
Kind of like the two state solution we have here in the usa with American Indians.
Ask them how that has worked out for them.
Palestinian folks want every Jew in the world dead.
I see what you did there.
It’s gratifying to know how many ‘eyes on’ there are to what’s posted here, and to see the words found here emerge into the world in news and politics, and even sometimes into the world around me.
It’s even a little reassuring to think the President’s team sees and hears our hearts here, and more importantly, that they are exposed to the vital beacon of light emitted by the work that’s been done and continues being done by Sundance (et al).
Likewise, it’s gratifying to know that even the other side’s eyes see what’s posted here, so I offer the link below to underscore the contempt felt by so many of us for their willful ignorance and their barbaric cruelties. It’s good to know they know we’re here, and it’s something of a miracle we are.
While there may be some or much truth to many things being said and written here today, it’s too easy to lose perspective when we fail to keep it simple.
For example, they must give back the hostages. Right now. Then the water to gaza can be discussed, IF it is in fact being withheld by the Israelis and not by the enemy.
Stop murdering innocents. Right now, or else be stopped. Right now.
Simple.
So it’s good to know the silliest and shallowest of their herd get to read about themselves here and elsewhere, and that here they’ll rightly and credibly be lampooned and ridiculed to the Nth degree, because they have so loudly demanded and earned such attention.
I’m headed to the kitchen to make up a gallon jar of pancake mix to cook and to share.
May God bless, guide and defend Israel, and may her enemies be brought down.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/10/15/aoc-water-gaza-n2388556?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=slider
I read misc news sources first.
Then I come to the Treehouse to reassure myself that there are good, kind, intelligent, brave people gathered who are not brainwashed and are not afraid.
I, too, am heartened to see the indications that the people who need to hear us likely do.
Every day here is a blessing and a gift.
Scott Ritter: Why I no longer stand with Israel, and never will again.
a. he thinks Netanyahu is a scum bag
b. The Israeli stole land from the Arabs, the Palestinians and on and on
c. The Israeli leadership are, today, untrustworthy.
He makes a compelling case here: https://www.scottritterextra.com/p/why-i-no-longer-stand-with-israel
and here:
Based on your bullet points I’ll take a hard pass.
“b. The Israeli stole land from the Arabs, the Palestinians and on and on”
Actually it was the Brits and the Bolshevik Jews that took the land. Not sure if stole is the right word to use. I guess Brits then the American’s stole the land from the Native Americans.
All strawman BS. Control is the issue. Does not matter who lives there when control is passed, if the squatters lack control.
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No one stole land. Britain defeated the nasty Ottoman Empire in WWI and the land then effectively became a territory (protectorate) of Britain. That’s how it works. Britain then gave most of it to Arabs 1921 for a new country called Jordan, and held onto the rest until 1947.
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It is bad enough that Scott got “setup” with kitty porn, but twice?
No one ever listened to him and the trend continues
So Netanyahu DID incite violence against Yitzhak Rabin in the final year leading up to his assassination, as Rabin’s widow claimed. Good to know.
Things Looking Up For Biden….
President Joe Biden’s 2024 re-election team and his party said on Sunday that they raised $71 million during the latest quarter, as the Democrat’s age and low approval ratings remained a concern for many donors.
The money raised is similar to the $72 million Biden and the Democratic Party raised in the prior quarter, though the April-to-June period was shorter by 25 days because Biden launched his campaign in late April. The summertime July-to-September period more than one year before the election is traditionally sluggish for raising money.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/15/biden-2024-campaign-allies-raise-71-million-in-latest-quarterly-haul.html
Meanwhile the pence campaign has lost whatever support there was and is very low on funds.
REPORT: Pence Campaign Financials Are Eerily Similar To Scott Walker Campaign’s Just Before His 2016 Exit (trendingpoliticsnews.com)
Good.
I saw a preview recently pushing ‘The Circus’ and Pence is on there saying, “The American people deserve to know the truth.”
The truth is you are Judas. You had one chance and you blew it. The truth is that EVERYTHING that has happened in the last 3 years is on your head. You will NEVER, EVER get near the White House or the Senate again. Thank God. We will see to that.
Quentin Tarantino visits IDF soldiers serving in south
(October 15, 2023 / JNS) Legendary filmmaker American Quentin Tarantino paid a surprise visit to the western Negev on Sunday to visit IDF bases and support soldiers at a time of war.
Tarantino toured the area, spoke to soldiers, encouraged them and took pictures with them.
He is married to Israeli singer Daniella Pick and has lived in Tel Aviv for two years with their son and daughter.
https://www.newsrael.com/posts/0st2of5okpn
And here it is:
https://t.me/beholdisraelchannel/19575
Oooops! Sorry, but I was answering to a post about the new Israeli anti-missile weapon, the Iron Beam. Here it is in action!
Thanks. Too bad we can’t see what happened to the target.
I think they hit the targets. Though the light went past them too. Could be a correction or tracking mechanism.
And it is good seeing what seems to be rapid recharge. Lots of early weapons development suffered in this regard. Seen a picture of a laser on a jet, but an entire airliner was needed to hold the laser.
Though it could be multiple weapons instead.
It takes a lot of energy to do damage, especially quick damage.
I have been watching for something on this.. Amir mentioned the laser weapon a bit ago, so I hoped it would be ready!
Looking for Stillwater’s prayer posts – maybe not on here yet – hoping all is well and praying anyway!
Just read yesterday’s. Or any other day.
Hoping all is well with Stillwater too.
Suejeanne, thank you for noticing and sharing that one of us is “absent without leave” to borrow Betsy Jones turn of phrase. Your caring heart helps tend our Treehouse as a fellowship and community.
Well said sunrei. I could not think of any way to say it better. You even threw in our beloved Bet. Slainte
Slainte, Colkitto.
Another day…another threat
Biden Admin Threatens Banks That Refuse To Lend Money To Illegal Immigrants
https://dailycaller.com/2023/10/12/biden-admin-threatens-banks-refuse-lend-money-illegal-immigrants/
This is so VERY Screwy—What happened to our laws that make/made aiding and abetting illegals a felony.
So far Biden is going to penalize people who do not give employment to Illegals, and now banks are being penalized for not committing a felony.
The Law Against Hiring or Harboring Illegal Aliens
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization or local government) commits a federal felony when he:
https://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/law-against-hiring-or-harboring-illegal-aliens
Banks are also obligated to run their institutions to the benefit of the shareholders and illegal aliens are poor credit risks by definition.
And maybe illegal?
I was wondering the same , it is a felony to encourage illegals to come and stay in America.
To all of you.
Do you really expect me to stand with Netanyahu after he nearly got my aunt and uncle killed?
He wanted this attack to happen and deliberately allowed it to happen for political reasons. He needs to be shunned forever.
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His past actions demonstrate his desire for war and allegiance to the military industrial complex. He is under indictment and faces an armed revolt, and thus would like a distraction.
And lastly, the story about how Israel was supposedly outsmarted by Hamas is too bizarre for me to believe.
Just one question -what did you make or think of PDJT’s revelation the other day about the Solemani / Natanhayu incident as PDJTdescribed it ?
Doesn’t surprise me at all. And he shouldn’t have stopped with that. He should’ve gone on and on and on about what a POS Netanyahu really is.
Ad min !
*Noted…
Meant, Ad Rem , asking for a ruling ….overexcited poster …may injure himself …
Noted….as in it’s been handled.
I agree, way too harsh and seemingly unjustified , too emotional in the moment ( although that is understandable given the circumstances ) – but “wanted” , “deliberately allowed” “for political reasons” the attack to happen is really just too much to swallow … ( But Remember there is a segment to this day who firmly believe FDR “wanted” , “deliberately allowed” “for political reasons” Pearl Harbor /Dec. 7 , to happen …. 3,2, 1
Seeing G~Pol answer to Mikgen , he is firmly of this belief and you are never going to convince him otherwise – he does not like or support Natanyau and this confirms his bad opinion of him – so be it as it were – just an observation –
I understand and agree partly. However, my intention is not to convince G-pol but to give those who happen to read his diatribes a second (hopefully more sound) opinion.
As I said G-pol is reiterating the most outlandish leftist memes. I know we live in a period when many so called ” conspiracy theories” appear to come true, such as man-made Covid19-virus, election fraud etc, but even so one has to be able to question the likelihood of ones theories. And one question even the Left must ask – however much they despise Netanyahu – is how he, despite having far from 100% support in the security establishment or the military, could have carried out such a coup!
Sorry, just not possible IMHO!
I agree with your point – Those that already dislike ( some very vehemently ) Natanyahu will use this HAMAs attack as way to blame him one way or the other for the tragic aftermath -“deliberately allowed ” ( a real libel there, I think ) or “criminal negligence” on his part ( still a serious accusation ) …. Clearly the failures at whatever level – intelligence , military , political etc need to investigated – But throwing these types of charges out there now is not a credible exercise …IMHO
Agree, though I would not say criminal negligence. But someone certainly dropped the plot, and in such circumstances it usually ends with the one ”holding the bucket” will have to retire. However, it is far too early to discuss whose fault it was, even before we know what really happened.
True , I meant as an “accusation” that is or will be forth coming from his enemies , one step below the. ; “ He desperately allowed”claim , which is a little too over the top to sell ….
“But Remember there is a segment to this day who firmly believe FDR “wanted” , “deliberately allowed” “for political reasons” Pearl Harbor /Dec. 7 , to happen”
I do wonder about that, I’ll admit.
And I’m firmly convinced that Bush and Cheney deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen.
Ok , One has flown out of …
Ad rem… does this forum still have rules against personal attacks? I thought it was a one-and-done kind of rule.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/guidelines-for-comments/
13.) NO PERSONAL ATTACKS – Ever. The fastest way to lose commenting privileges is to ridicule, bully or personally attack another person’s opinion or comment. Unfortunately people, often good people, let their passion interfere with good manners and personal judgement. If you cannot be polite or respectful, pause – and – do not comment.
It is…and assuming that we can be in all places at all times, it is usually realized.
Understood, of course. Sundance needs to pay you more. 🙂
No whining rule also
Mikgen used a bad word and some one tattled ….
Mikgen rewrite suggested …
Thanks but I think G-pol saw what I wrote, and for the others the follow-up comments ought to be enough. I don’t want to get on the wrong side of Ad-rem, and most especially not of dear JustMe.
😁
PS Which word was the bad one do you think? The one I hyphenated or ”utterly”? One gets so confused.
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a hint … It was what my little grandson tells his mother “ Mommy , Lucy called me STUPID “
Oh dear! I assume you haven’t read the previous comments in this discussion. But I’m the one who has transgressed? Most sorry.
Apology accepted!
No one expects you to do anything, except please take your rants elsewhere. We get it. You don’t like Bibi. Message rec’d loud and clear.
He (Netanyahu) WANTED …
Really?
Bring the receipts.
Challenge accepted. Reaching out to Laura Loomer now.
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If you think the leftist multi-culti work visa-granting Gaza-withdrawing anti-settlement, utopian coexistionists would have done a better job, well then just remove Netanyahu. Ben Gurion isn’t coming back but if he did he wouldn’t get elected in today’s world.
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President Trump has been a great supporter of Israel and they should all know that by now, but maybe he has a reason to say what he did, and later he will be proven right so all those people who are being nasty about him saying something about the PM of Israel should just know that he would not say anything one way or the other unless he knew for sure what he was talking about. anyone It will all come out sooner or later but none of us stand with Hamis so they should just should just be quiet and not start trouble for him..
The Hamas are using the Billions of dollars of weapons, money and high tech military equipment that the Globalist Biden left behind, along with the billions given to them during Obama’s 2 terms.
Time for offense
What can you do?
https://jamestesauro.substack.com/p/time-for-offense?r=1e0s78
Read the story below and then consider the fact that our entire election infrastructure is intertwined with FirstNet.
How insecure is America’s FirstNet emergency response system? Seriously, anyone know?
https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/12/firstnet_cybersecurity_audit_wyden/
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I need leaders to step up to the front if we are going to fix this train wreck.
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Rose Mofford – 2
Spruce – 2
Sunny Slope – 2
Xavier – 2
Loma Linda – 2
Cambridge – 2
Perry Park – 2
Whittier – 2
McDowell – 2
Edison – 2
Capitol School – 2
Sunny High – 1
Turney – 1
Central High – 1
Los Olivos – 1
Ruby – 1
North High – 1
Holly – 1
Gateway – 1
Contact [email protected]
—forwarded from Seth Keshel
Here we go again, so tragic all the way around, it will be interesting when the details come out:
https://wgntv.com/news/man-facing-hate-crime-charges-after-allegedly-killing-6-year-old-injuring-woman-in-stabbing-attack-in-will-county/
Radio media has said that CAIR is now involved and the husband/father/CAIR(?) will give a news conference later today. The media hinted that they were ‘Palestinian Americans’. Poor child…another innocent victim of adult stupidity.
Real trend lines for 2024:
AZ +15
GA +10
MI +10
NC +12
PA +10
FL +12
–Captain K
These online polls are bogus. They take anyone who wants to vote in the poll period.
Too close, definitely within cheating distance.
Interview last week with Georgia State Senator Colton Moore. He is the Georgia legislator who entered a bill to impeach Fani Willis. For his efforts, he was thrown out of the Republican caucus. Interesting guy.
https://rumble.com/v3o1gaq-ga-sen-colton-moore-ep-151-live.html
And now Biden has announced free everything for criminal illegals…to ensure they will be compliant with immigration “law”.
That’s actually the given reason for funding our own subjugation by people who have no business being here.
https://nypost.com/2023/10/12/ice-admits-5-7-million-migrants-in-us-biden-rrm/amp/
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chicago-giving-migrants-9000-rental-assistance
Migrants get $9000 in rental assistance over 9 months, but homeless get ziltch
Thank you.
Yes…Chicagoan natives are restless anyway with the new “arrivals”. When that news gets out it will not be well received.
Sharyl Attkisson Full Measure Report J6 Investigation Part 1 & 2
15 Oct 2023
https://fullmeasure.news
File under: KISS system (keep it simple stupid)
Honest Purple-Finger Elections
Electoral ink, indelible ink, electoral stain or phosphoric ink is a semi-permanent ink or dye that is applied to the forefinger of voters during elections in order to prevent electoral fraud such as double voting.
Tied in with “effective” one-day voting, voter ID and no machines involved in tallying the counts.
One of the more common election ink compositions is based on silver nitrate, which can produce a stain lasting several weeks.
Ink is normally applied to the left hand index finger, especially to the cuticle where it is almost impossible to remove quickly. Ink may be applied in a variety of ways. The most common methods are via dipping bottles with sponge inserts, bottles with brush applicators and spray bottles.
Eliminates the cost of the “I voted” sticker which gave the false sense of security of honest elections……you just thought you voted in AZ, GA, etc. when in reality, you were just an unsuspecting pawn in the “voting theater” put on by the democrats / GOPe criminal gangs that ran the vote-rigging-scam in many locals.
The treasonous, candidate pols paid the gangs a “winner’s fee” based on the size of “win margin” the gang would deliver. This was always popular with those candidates who were afraid of meeting their constituents to ask them for their votes, aka DeXX. The only requirement is to have a soros-bought DA who would ignore vote cheating complaints.
“Let’s go Brandon and the democrats and the GOPe!”
Johns Hopkins University professor Dr. Marty Makary told the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic during its first hearing on Tuesday “the greatest perpetrator of misinformation during the pandemic has been the United States government”
Meanwhile, in other news……….
.https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/epstein-victim-who-testified-against-ghislaine-maxwell-mysteriously/
No response from family…circumstances are not ‘right’. Very sad for her 5 children and husband as they were putting their lives together.
Of course it was an accidental drug overdose. She probably had no idea she was taking a drug.
Or that it was being given to her.
JoBama warning banks to approve loans for illegal aliens.
More America last BS.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/biden-admin-orders-banks-not-to-reject-illegal-immigrants-loan-applications-5510179?
Trump/Gaetz
2024
Trump/Navarro
Whoever Trump chooses must be a hard core right winger. That ensures no one will want to eliminate him, because that is how the game is played nowadays. I’m thinking someone like Atilla the Hun or Genghis Kahn. I used to think Ted Cruz was that guy, but now I really can’t think of anyone. Maybe Gaetz is the best choice after all.
Of course the other option is to choose a complete idiot. I mean, no serious person wants Kamala Harris to become our president. That does open up the field a bit.
Some Rep. congressmen working with democrats say they will not vote for Jordan.
’I am in favor of nominating VSGTrump while the house gets their stuff together. VSGTrump can serve until end oF January, get committees busy doing their work, get the harassment towards resolved whatever means it takes…..laws, testimony to committees, financial funds stopped. There is SO much he can do. Even short term. Any republicans who votes against him……..primaries.
Who is “VSGTrump”?
Very stable genius president trump
Very Special Genius. I can’t remember how it got started. Maybe a pejoritive early on and we went with it. Something like that. One of those, we take what Trump says seriously, but not literally.
Thank you both. I was wracking my brain trying to figure this out. All I could come up with was Very Special Guy, Virtual Simulated Grandmaster, and Victim of Subversive Gangsters.
I’ve been here for quite a while but admittedly, with my age I may be one fry short of a happy meal (alright, maybe Three, and bourbon doesn’t help) but I felt bad when I felt locked out from the password protected post one or two days ago.
Very Stable Genius…
I think the origins go back to Trump’s response to the Fire and Fury anti Trump book. He repeated being a very stable genius often after that…
For example:
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‘I’m A Very Stable Genius,’ President Donald Trump Says As NATO Summit Ends | NBC News
“🚨BREAKING: HORRIFIC FOOTAGE OF WHAT ISRAEL JUST DID TO PALESTINE🚨
How can the US support this?
Where is the UN?!
These poor Palestinians!
Oh… wait
This is EAST Palestine, OHIO.
Our Gov did this to AMERICANS & there was not ONE SINGLE protest from leftists
STFU evil frauds”
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1713605298601046434?s=20
Is there a ‘Palestine’ or a ‘West Palestine’ in the US? Just curious why they chose this name. Seems like it should be called ‘West Palestine,’ or maybe just ‘Palestine’ since there’s never been a country called Palestine. Does anybody know the history?
Nevertheless, I do feel for the people there, such a terrible tragedy.
Some politicians in the world have managed to keep the most important issue in the history of humanity (misgendering pronouns) at the top of the political agenda despite the “distractions” in the Mid East. sarc/
Fortunately, P Trump is not one of them
It’s what liberalism does to people .
What is “it” ?
She wants to be called They/Them.
Poor girl has a Split Personality, or “dissociative identity disorder” as it’s now called.
If you are they/them, then there are more of you than just one.
Legion.
“for we are many”
It’s all Mental Issues!
wow. They really are creating their own special version of Hell on Earth for themselves, aren’t they?
Talk about making your own life complicated. Sheesh!
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“All I’m trying to do is…” force other people to talk ungrammatically and change their language.
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Bob Menendez Blocked Bills Reforming FARA Before Being Indicted for Acting as Foreign Agent
https://redstate.com/jeffc/2023/10/15/bob-menendez-blocked-bills-reforming-fara-reform-bills-before-being-indicted-for-acting-as-foreign-agent-n2165102
… “Interestingly enough, Menendez blocked this legislation while he was already under investigation.
The lawmaker’s opposition to FARA reform bills is quite noteworthy in light of the fact that the Justice Department is accusing him of acting on behalf of the Egyptian government despite not registering as a foreign agent. The grand jury indictment notes that Menendez and his wife accepted substantial bribes from three businessmen in exchange for using his “power and influence as a Senator” to benefit the individuals and Egypt.”
Elite Law Schools Encourage Students To Work For Israeli-Designated Terror Organizations
https://dailycaller.com/2023/10/15/elite-law-schools-encourage-students-to-work-for-israeli-designated-terror-organizations/
… “Three American law schools maintain web pages encouraging their students to work for organizations designated as terror groups by the Israeli government.
The University of California, Los Angeles School of Law and the Georgetown University Law Center promote Al-Haq, which was designated as a terrorist organization by Israel in 2021, as a potential employment option for their graduates. The Northeastern University School of Law promotes both Al-Haq and Addameer, another Israeli-designated terrorist organization, as part of its signature “Cooperative Legal Education Program.”
Maybe some of these elite law schools should be classified as terror organizations too.
“I can’t say my friend’s name, but he said his biggest fear is that ISIS, or some terrorist group like that, would get ahold of a dirty bomb, and explode it over a major city within the United States and kill tens of millions of people… …because then, the blowback against innocent Muslims would be absolutely terrible.” — Norm MacDonald
“Mmm hmm. That’s true.” — Margaret Cho’s response
“Yeah, that’s horrific.” — Adam Eget, also not getting Norm’s point.
That’s half the reason for Islam to attack anyone, to enable whining and gaslighting about the response.
TOMORROW, TOMORROW, TOMORROW,TOMORROW, TOMORROW, TOMORROW, TOMORROW
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LIVE: PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP SPEAKS AT TWO LOCATIONS IN IOWA – 10/16/2023
The 45th President of the United States Donald J. Trump is expected to address supporters at two locations in Iowa on October 16th, 2023.
Times to be announced.
As usual, RSBN will provide their excellent coverage.
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More War Drama from the Politicians. Just like Ukraine.
Will Hollywood Stars be next up in Israel?
…..” Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer’s delegation in Tel Aviv was rushed to a bomb shelter to wait out rockets shot off by Hamas.
Schumer posted a photo of himself alongside Republican Sen. Mitt Romney of Utah in the shelter.
‘It shows you what Israelis have to go through,’ he continued. ‘We must provide Israel with the support required to defend itself.’ “…..
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/chuck-schumer-rushed-shelter-wait-rockets-sent-hamas/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/house-republicans-introduce-bill-safeguard-national-security-blocking/
Meanwhile…..
……” (Dem) Rep. Jamaal Bowman and other leftists are already calling on the United States to take in Palestinian refugees from Gaza. Of course, these people are surrounded by Arab countries, but none of them are taking them in. Why should America?”……
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/it-begins-jamaal-bowman-other-leftists-already-calling/
Why haven’t they arrested him yet for setting off that alarm..