How two of these candidates were able to qualify just boggles the mind. Then again, we have to reset that old brain muscle memory and remind ourselves this is all grand theatre created to give the illusion of something entirely different.
I mean, how do Doug Burgum and Asa Hutchinson have enough support to appear on a GOP debate stage, unless the script writers are working the backroom angles to get them a podium spot?
With President Trump refusing to walk into the trap, according to the RNC statement, the eight people who qualify for the Fox News first loser debate are: (1) Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, (2) businessperson Vivek Ramaswamy, (3) former Vice President Mike Pence, (4) former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, (5) Senator Tim Scott (R-S.C.), (6) former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, (7) North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and (8) former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson.
I’m not sure how many people are planning to tune into the irrelevant debate; let me know if you want an open thread with livestream in the comment section.
Meanwhile, in a national poll released today, President Trump continues to extend his insurmountable lead as the support of the American electorate keeps growing.
Inside the FiveThirtyEight (Premise Poll) of registered voters: President Trump leads with 60% of the vote, the next closest candidate is Ron DeSantis with 16%, followed by Ramaswamy at 6%, Pence at 4%, Tim Scott at 3%, Nikki Haley at 3% and Chris Christie at 1%.


https://vigilantnews.com/post/rfk-jr-identifies-the-real-shooter-behind-his-fathers-death
Yes, the Los Angeles Medical Examiner determined that the fatal shot that killed RFK was fired from behind him. Sirhan had fired two shots at RFK before he was wrestled the ground. He continued to fire the. 22 caliber pistol into the air but an additional four shots were fired over the capacity of his gun. The fatal shot came from a security guard standing behind the Senator.
Ha ha,ha, “.22 caliber pistol”??
So he basically was firing BB gun.
The .22 is the preferred weapon for assassins, easily concealed and a head shot will scramble your brains as the bullet ricochets inside your skull.
He talked about that before in another interview I watched. They knew the name of the guy. A security person and they traced the gun and found it and the guy moved overseas and lived there. He was very calm when relaying the story and all the facts. It was quite amazing to hear it all.
Amazing video! I remember when Bobby was killed. Those were horrific days and right after MLK’s death. Looked way back on Dems even in those days. The SeeEyeAye however, is still active.
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I think the participants should have a big screen facing them — showing every comment that our VSGPDJT is posting in real time . . .
And, Faux cameras never shows those comments but cannot hide the expressions on the faces of those seeing them.
This feels like it’ll be a ‘make DeSantis look good’ show and end up bringing everyone on stage down. A ‘Guilt by Association’ scenario.
Credit to Joseph Heller (Catch-22):
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them. With Major Major (RDS/”Meatball”) it had been all three. Even among men lacking all distinction he inevitably stood out as a man lacking more distinction than all the rest, and people who met him were always impressed by how unimpressive he was.
Kemosabe. What is this “gop debate” you speak of?
It is the way of their people.
Well….first of all I’m a million % for Trump. I literally got out of what was practically my death bed to vote for him the 1st time. I was lucky to make it into the post office with my absentee ballot without needing someone to help me. So fast forward…of course I voted for him last time and will again. You can’t be more pro-Trump than me.
But what there will on stage tomorrow night is possibly a VP and several cabinet heads. And if somehow the bastards take out MY PRESIDENT Donald Trump…one of those debaters tomorrow might be POTUS. I’m not saying I want to watch and in fact I can’t because I cut my cable in protest but there are reruns…or something. My point is that we can’t totally disregard this and the people on stage.
I am afraid of the lengths the bastards will go to to destroy the man we all want for POTUS. DJT really has enormous courage – I couldn’t admire him more.
Scarlett – I don’t know you and yet I would bet my house that you are a good person that loves this country and has always done things the right way as much as any human can – so – in that frame of mind, I think I understand your thoughts on the debate and not discarding it. However at the juncture that we, as a nation, currently find ourselves in with corruption and disregard for the citizenry – I cannot agree.
If the President is NOT Donald J Trump after winning his third election then we don’t have a country.
Any acceptance to the farce pretending to be an election without DJT is just small steps to the cattle cars on the train.
So concerning this debate and these candidates lack of a honest and real chance of winning over DJT, well then, Frankly Scarlett, I just don’t give a damn.
IF there is any integrity in the election at large, DJT will win by the largest margin in US history.
Our real battle is what comes after a man like Trump and none of these tools need apply then either.
Who will lead us out of the ruins? There must be someone…good must prevail over evil. I can’t accept that we are so far gone that we won’t completely repudiate what we are now being subjected to – the child trafficking, the abuse of the J-6 prisoners, the destruction of our children’s innocence. Hunter to me is a symbol of the current people in power – a bunch of degenerates only concerned with power and money. If, as a whole, we accept this then we’re done.
I have to think someone would step up – does history make the man or does the man make history. So far DJT is both…he is so extraordinary. But we have to hope that he inspires successors to right the fabric of our country.
Honestly, I do give a damn.
I do give a damn about the country that comment was aimed at the 8 dogs and ponies being trotted out as supposed Presidential choices. We the people made our choice TWICE and we will a third time. So no I don’t give a damn what these eight meatballs and pasta sticks have to say about ANYTHING because they are fake owned and self serving. Otherwise they would be united behind TRUMP! and us.
I understand. I’m just thinking that in DJT’s absence, which will eventually come, we will need someone to follow in his footsteps. Hard to imagine any of those guys tomorrow night could do it….but years ago I’d never have thought Donald Trump would risk EVERYTHING to save this country from the globalists.
I pray the successor is out there….and he has at least half the moxie and courage of DJT.
the successor is we citizens
who need to cease standing for the evil nonsense
our corrupt government is involved in
None of the eight elves is worth or capable of being associated with President Trump’s administration, their own words betray them regarding the PRESIDENT. they are snakes in the grass!
The only happy face is the rapper who performed in Iowa. He’s hungry and at this point has been pretty positive, although I think Vivek is a plant.
Trump is just one man, only We the People can fix this. 🇺🇸
100%, I agree. No matter the deal I am writing his name in. In fact the radio program WRKO I listen to every morning has called for a national write in, especially if they steal again. Something tells me they have been stealing our elections for a very long time.
Someone like Trump comes along only once in a lifetime.
They’ve definitely been stealing the elections in MA for a very very long time. There are more patriots there than are represented in state govt. We left last year, sad to say for more affordable pastures.
Glad you voted for Trump. Me too (although I was a tad healthier – hope you’re OK!)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but everyone on that stage backs or has backed the TPP.
If that’s true, then none of them needs to be near Washington.
Yes…somehow I recovered. Looking back it was almost a miracle.
If they all still support TPP then I’m against them. We’re the golden goose…I don’t want to kill us.
Nope! Non! Nyet! No Way Jose!
None of the clowns at the Sh!!t Show should come within 2500 miles of Trump.
Look what happened in version 1 when Trump got saddled with those sold outs.
Better surround Trump with a few lawyers and businessmen who have NEVER been involved in Government.
Maybe, just with experience in Home Owners Asssociations!
In Burgum’s case he built Great Plains Software almost from scratch and eventually sold it to Microsoft. He then became an executive at MSFT and I saw him in a book being praised by the CEO as “the soul of Microsoft”. Then he returned to North Dakota (who would do that…not me …but it was his home) and ran for Governor. So he has both private business and governing experience. I personally value entrepreneurs more than life long government workers – different mind-set.
I consider ALL of them
traitors and sellouts.
They will be standing
on stage trying to
convince people they
would be a better President
than our President
Trump.
They are in good company
with Judas Pence.
Republican RINOs.
I will Not be watching.
And he used his fortune to give out gift cards to people who donated 1.00 to his campaign. That smells like pay to play to me.
Well…the whole political system is pay to play…it’s just that in most cases candidates don’t spend their own money until Trump.
none of those on the stage tonight are qualified or deserving of the VP nod
If Trump picks a VP from the bunch, I’ll watch the clips of said person, but I am not watching the dog and pony show and hope their ratings crash further than CNN’s ever did.
I’m not watching either – cancelled cable when they fired Tucker. FOX and the rest will never see another nickel from me.
Not in my wheelhouse, I’m out!!
Pence and Bubblegum sent me texts asking for a dollar so they could be in the debate. I was offended. I am also very tired of every political Tom, Dick, and Harry texting me. I want to be paid a dollar for typing STOP into my phone.
Report texts as Junk and Delete.
Snail mail. Return their (c)rap in the return envelope after you write- Sharpies do a great job –
“We do NOT vote for RINOs in this household. Until you rid the party of such, not even one red cent!”
“let me know if you want an open thread with livestream in the comment section.”
Pass….
Hard pass.
Yes to Live Stream with open debate!
Former this and former that. Some of these politicians have been out of work for so long that their resume looks like it has huge gaps.
Ramaswamy worked for one of the Pharmaceutical companies. None of them have anything good to say about President Trump even though President Trump put them in their former positions or endorsed them in their current position. On top of all of that, not one of them admit that there was fraud in the 2020 election.
All of these things add up to every one of these folks being controlled by the Deep State. Proof is that none of the Powers That Be are coming against them. That tells us exactly what we need to know!
I’m supposed to tune in on eight dwarves hitting each other with blow-up toys?
On the day that President Trump is beginning a journey into the Uniparty/Deep State gulag? While the rest of the GOP goes along with it?
If I ever doubted Sundance’s picture of the GOP’s “business model,” that’s all gone now. The GOP cares about America the way Disney cares about children.
Actually, that sounds like it would be fun. At least for a couple minutes.
This debate doesn’t sound fun at all.
On Sunday I received a text message from Hutchinson that read “Edward, Just (sic) 36 hours left to get Reagan Conservative Asa Hutchinson to the debate. Chip in $1 to get Asa in: [link to contribute site].
My response: “Asa Hutchinson is a closet communist. Not a snowball chance in hell I will give him anything”.
No reply of course. I have no doubt most replied with a similar or no response query. So how did this loser with Kamal type poll numbers make it to the debate? Sundance is correct – we live in a pretend world.
ASA Hutchinson is a globalist NOT a conservative. He supports America Last policies. He supports the awful TPP trade deal which will move all remaining U.S. industrial capacity to China and give an international committee power over all U.S. employment and environmental policies. It’s the end of American sovereignty. These people don’t give a crap about that. All they care about is getting paid off by globalist corporate interests.
I mean, how do Doug Burgum and Asa Hutchinson have enough support to appear on a GOP debate stage, unless the script writers are working the backroom angles to get them a podium spot?
One or both will be paid alot of money to read their script after the mods tee up the question for the deep state. These will be the guys that paint the Don as Jesse James.
Burgum gave a $20 gift card for a $1 donation. Being fairly unknown since he’s from North Dakota it wasn’t exactly stupid and within the rules given.
Trolling with a 20 dollar bill can snag enough suckers. Pathetic.
It strikes me as sort of a “bucket list” item – #19 – Ran for President – check
not out of concern for the country, for America First –
just throwing money out there for his bucket list –
has he climbed Mt. Everest?
was he an Eagle Scout?
(nothing against the Boy Scouts or any particular Eagle Scouts but having been one is not any ultimate guarantee that the guy will be America First down the road, but it “sounds good”)
Burgrum strikes me as the phony bullshit humble Warren Buffet – not buying it!
They are in and Larry Elders is out. Seems like they are creating a biased message.
Tucker Carlson and Col MacGregor have over 6 million views on Twitter. Tucker and President Trump will demolish Fox on debate night!
Literally forgot about it. Zero interest.
Trump All Day🙏🏻🇺🇸💪🏼
❤️🤍💙💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
NOWWW we’re talk’n. . .!!
Clink link. . .
Trump To Host Live Stream Of Debates Where He Insults The Other Candidates MST3K-Style | Babylon Bee
I’m in!!!
Babylon Bee are DeSaster shills.
Someone who used to work for Trump says his decision to skip the debates was a big miscalculation. Since she supports DeSantis, I think the big miscalculation was from her part, not Trumps.
https://okmagazine.com/p/donald-trump-political-miscalculation-skipping-republican-debate/
Waiting for 80 million no views on loser debate.
Not one click or view.
If you absolutely have to, wait a day or two, and get the clips elsewhere.
Maybe she is a graduate of the Jeb Bush math curriculum and finds making calculations somewhat challenging.
I’m out
Would rather s**t and go blind
President Trump’s Super PAC Brutally Trolls His Primary Opponents – FOX News Blocks the Website
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/president-trumps-super-pac-brutally-trolls-his-primary/
Check it out, it’s really hilarious. They are having people voting to see who gets the spot of VP.
They forgot the NONE OF THE ABOVE option.
Open thread with livestream?
Only if you add a laughtrack!
Anyone that doesn’t support a 77 year old Titan is a typical no backbone person that will probably be wearing a mask in the future and says I have no choice.
I’m serious.
I suspect Socialists from around the world will watch to boost their ratings… it’s us against them.
Aren’t they all globalist uniparty members? Why bother even watching the debates without Trump. I won’t vote for any of them.
This is my first time writing in the comment section. I would enjoy a link to the debate. It’s going to be funny to see how the discussion goes without target orange man bad on stage. They will have to take jabs at each other rather than trump.
Thank you, I have been a long time reader.
Check back here on debate night. Also, Tucker Carlson will interview President Trump on Twitter at the same time!
My guess is he will still be the object of their comments through out. What else can any of them talk about really?
These RINO losers have Trump on the brain 24/7. They will spend the whole debate trashing him while claiming MAGA minus Trump is what America needs and the GOP can deliver 🤣😂
A betting pool on how many times they mention President Trump?
I heard that fox is not allowing any other outlet to replay any part of the debate. I’m not watching but how are people going to get soundbites? What’s their angle? No one watches. They can make stuff up? Shut stuff down? Heard this last week.
After this election I’m changing my affiliation from Republican to Independent. The RNC/GOP establishment is nothing but a bunch of thieves and traitors.
That Dumbshit Shapiro sent me an mass email, again… stating that Trump MUST show up at the debate, otherwise, when he runs against FJB, Sleepy Joe might refuse to debate him.
I really need to update my email filters.
A man who has been told a jillion times that he speaks too fast for his audience to LISTEN CAREFULLY to him doesn’t deserve that radio show of his.
He doesn’t give a damn. He has NO respect for his audience.
as far as debating Biden, one would have to just stand there and let Biden do all the talking
Throw them ALL out!
President Trump and President Trump ONLY!!
How much you want to bet they’re going to treat Ron like he’s the one to beat?
Don’t know about that, but Nicki Haley certainly has a healthy glow.
Wonder if she called up Gretchen Whitmer for skin care pointers?
Yep! Ramaswamy come on down. It’s your turn to play Fox News’ – Can You Beat Donald Trump!
Participation Trophies for Everyone! 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
No need to live stream it. I wouldn’t watch that $h!t if you paid me. I hope the ratings tank.
I feel you, kid.
I don’t care to hear what any of them have to say. I’m all in for Trump. Period.
Put me down for no to the livestream.
No debates, please. No links and no posted videos.
I once had 10/12 favorite websites I would checkup on daily, now its down to two. The rest of those loser (conservative ?) sites have been flushed permanently, because of the worthless garbage that they would continuously show like videos of the View CNN MSNBC and worthless actors of meaningless self importance spewing out their lying propaganda, over over and over again. No more!
I now search out sites and people with solutions. Hard to find! Of-course the Bible has all the answers.
I will not be watching the the Fox News RINO Love Fest.
Bannon’s War Room & separately John Frederichs from RAV will both be broadcasting and commenting on the Tucker/President Trump interview. Frederichs had planned to be at the debate and had a sweet broadcasting setup there, but he cancelled it in solidarity with President Trump.
other than when President Trump is on the debate roster
I prefer to read the in real time comments from those who
sacrifice their time and sanity to watch it
The stage(d) candidates look a bit listless.
Night of the ankle-biters tonight on Fox.
Sadly. President Trump will probably watch this horror and then spend the next day trolling them. I won’t be one as I have no interest in anything they have to say.
Why would I join in to this attempted session of propaganda?? I haven’t watched FLOCK’S NEWS since November 20, 2020!!
Honestly, I don’t believe Mike Pence qualified…
I have had a vision of some rats in a maze.
One rat, a very athletic and promising rat, Ron DeSantis, early on smelled the enticing allure of a cheese. Champion that he was, he sprinted through the maze, found the cheese and dominated it. Pleased with himself and knowing his handlers would reward him, he sat thinking they would eventually release him from the maze and until then, well, he had the cheese!
A second rat, a very wise and competent rat, Donald J Trump, like always, was not distracted by the smell of the cheese. He recognized that the task at hand had nothing to do with cheese, but was instead to find the exit of the maze and freedom. This he accomplished again and again with singular focus.
(Isn’t that the goal of maze games when you are more than a rat?)
It’s clear sir, while among rats, you are not one. While everyone chases the cheese, you school us on the task that matters and that this is no game. All the best to you in the coming year!
and since I don’t often post….thanks bunches to Sundance for untold hours of reading and education.
How would all of these “candidates” respond to this number one question; Are you willing to unlimitedly tariff the ever loving sh_t out of any country or conglomerate of countries, to help America and American workers? I think we all know the answer…..
Bergum had leg injury…may not make the debate…
Tripped over his hair gel?
Every self-respecting circus needs clowns. The GOP under the inept direction of Mitt Romney’s niece went out found some to fill the stage.
The show must go on!
Thanks, no Sundance! We don’t need bandwidth wasted on what these candidates will say to savage our real President, Donald J. Trump.
Fox has jumped the shark here.