How two of these candidates were able to qualify just boggles the mind. Then again, we have to reset that old brain muscle memory and remind ourselves this is all grand theatre created to give the illusion of something entirely different.
I mean, how do Doug Burgum and Asa Hutchinson have enough support to appear on a GOP debate stage, unless the script writers are working the backroom angles to get them a podium spot?
With President Trump refusing to walk into the trap, according to the RNC statement, the eight people who qualify for the Fox News first loser debate are: (1) Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, (2) businessperson Vivek Ramaswamy, (3) former Vice President Mike Pence, (4) former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley, (5) Senator Tim Scott (R-S.C.), (6) former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, (7) North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and (8) former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson.
I’m not sure how many people are planning to tune into the irrelevant debate; let me know if you want an open thread with livestream in the comment section.
Meanwhile, in a national poll released today, President Trump continues to extend his insurmountable lead as the support of the American electorate keeps growing.
Inside the FiveThirtyEight (Premise Poll) of registered voters: President Trump leads with 60% of the vote, the next closest candidate is Ron DeSantis with 16%, followed by Ramaswamy at 6%, Pence at 4%, Tim Scott at 3%, Nikki Haley at 3% and Chris Christie at 1%.


You know it is fixed because there will be no empty podium for “undecided.”
I would rather watch paint dry than watch these posers.
I cut the cord in 2015 after the last Trump bashing debate.
I’ll watch President Trump and Tucker Carlson.
The paint never dries on stupidity.
– G Murphy Donovan
Carolina Girl —
This is California MAGA Girl here joining you in solidarity to watch paint dry. This cretinous crew are pustulant posers.
🇺🇲♥️🦁👑♥️🇺🇲
Pustulant posers, yes!
posers
OR:
hosers 🙂
In today’s WSJ crossword puzzle:
9 DOWN:
Doofus, in Canadian slang
ANSWER:
HOSER
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Ironically, the theme of today’s WSJ crossword puzzle is “FOOL ME ONCE” with a lot of dopey “practical jokes” or “pranks” which would probably be the level appreciated by these low-IQ heartless characters.
Oh, that would be a good one, match up the RNC candidate with their likely prank they would favor – first one to complete a list wins – if you could meme artistically that would be great.
Draw Nikki wearing those ridiculous high boots of hers and jumping out from a corner to say “boo” . . . she would give someone a near heart attack and then comfort the victim with saccharine sweet passive-aggressive solicitude, while slowly and carefully dialing 911.
Chris Christie carefully arranging a Whoopie cushion, stupid stuff like that.
When is Trump on and how can we watch them?
Trump’s comments on Truth Social during the debate should be a hoot!
Carlson is on X (Twitter)
I would like to know too.
So far I have yet to see it confirmed.
Be watching water boil.
You can’t tell me there is any non-insider support for Burgum (who?), Christie (you’ve got to be kidding me), or Hutchinson (my wife asked who that is and we live in TX and pay fairly close attention to politics.)
I have known some anti-Trump “republicans” (mean tweets!) that probably would support Pence (“he’s a Christian!”). Haley and Scott probably have some people fooled. Not everyone acknowledges the uniparty.
Bongino said there were two big gop donors who are paying CC to run in order to dirty Trump. He didn’t name them.
The only thing Chris Christie is going to dirty is his underwear.
New Jersey Lizzo!
So Krispy Kreme is a hatchet man, huh? Not much of a calling if you ask me.
Then again, when you’re an unemployed former New Jersey Governor (can you say corrupt?) who left office under a cloud of scandal, then later stabbed pretty much everybody he worked with in the back, I guess you take whatever job is available.
Well, Christie has stabbed the guy that served as his lawyer in NJ,Chris Wray.
He would make a great buoy obstacle in the Rio Grande
…or target practice at the range.
“CC” has already been (for at least a week now) on all the MSM shows spouting off against POTUS Trump . He’s doing what he does best: Making a jackazz of himself.
I ate something that didn’t agree with me a few days ago, and spent the better part of the next 5 hours hugging the toilet.
Haven’t had that experience in over 30 years.
Will not watch the debate.
Do not want a repeat of the other night. 🤢
I would rather hug a toilet than watch these pukes pontificate and slander OUR president.
I will be doing anything other than watching a bunch of establishment losers hash it out over their own failures and trash my President over his proven successes. These people are irrelevant to where we are at in the U.S. today and they don’t deserve anyone’s attention.
Me too! These people are SILLY!
I think NO ONE should watch these debates. Let the RNC know in no uncertain terms that their chosen losers are ALL unacceptable to the people.
Trump is the only candidate we need at this moment in time.
Some critical paint drying that needs my attention.
Here in Virginia, I think there’s a little grass growing that holds great interest.
for real, who are half these clowns?
Traitors begging for a hemp necklace
No need for feed.
…. ‘I mean, what do we expect?! All they have on their team is a buncha meatballs, tubs-of-lard, pansy’s and some booger eating morons!’
– Tanner Boyle (sort of)
GOP doing all it can do to see to it republican-registered Americans hate them.
The RNC are playing “deaf, dumb and blind” in this campaign, at this point. They need a rousing awakening by US, the real conservatives, MAGA Nation.
WE need to do it by all watching POTUS Trump’s interview with Tucker, and not tuning in to the “debate” on FOX.
The RNC/GOPe need to be called out for what they are, the other wing of the DNC.
Absolutely no plan to watch this clown show event.
I’m not going to watch these peeps “debate”. I will tune in to Tucker’s twitter interview of our REAL President Trump. I will catch the debate comments here on CTH
The only true qualifier required by the RNC was the willingness of a participant to say terrible things about President Trump.
The whole debate will be an affront to the MAGA base.
I saw Vivek on other threads yesterday and today. He is the one who is now refusing to make digs or agree with digs against DJT.
IMO, he is doing this to come off like an empathetic person. Obviously, if he believed what he is claiming now, he would have renounced his candidacy and been on Team Trump.
Please, NO livestream or links to the GOPe show. Hit them in the ratings, and watch Trump on Tucker instead.
YES!!!!
I do not want to give Elon ratings either.
Dilemma.
I thought Chris Christie had gastric bypass surgery?
He broke the band on his stomach 😭
He won The Battle of the Band(s).
Probably during his 74th Bruce Springsteen concert attendance
He did, in 2013, lap-band type. The failure rate for that surgery is between 15-35%. In other words, up to 1/3 of those patients do not meet their post-surgical weight loss goal. Sometimes the remaining stomach tissue just re-stretches on its own. Sometimes the patient does not alter their unhealthy eating habits. It could be blameless, his fault, or a combination of both.
No surgeries are perfect or risk-free. The goal is to improve the patient’s quality of life, and for the majority it helps. Prior to the use of gastric bypass surgery, most morbidly obese patients experienced severely shortened lives, primarily from cardiac strain and renal failure.
CC was actually a good athlete in high school. Baseball. Made the Little League Hall of Fame in NJ, I believe and was a catcher in high school IIRC
Here’s some pics. There’s a pic of him on his baseball team. SEcond row, second from left.
What New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie Was Like in High School – ABC News
Another, first pic
chris christie baseball pics from high school – Bing images
Not in all states.
I won’t be watching the “French Mistake”.
It will be thrilling in a swamp kind of way.
Good Lord!
Sundance, thanks very much for asking fellow Treepers our preference.
I am going to find the original live stream of Tucker’s interview of President Trump, because I want to help increase their ratings.
However, I am interested in the comments from those watching the script-readers on the debate stage at Fox News, including the TV actors playing Moderator.
But, you do which ever is easier for you.
Regardless of when it is made available, the Trump/TC interview won’t have a “live” stream. It’s pre-taped and pre-edited, not a live event. Probably rally speech material we’ve all heard repeatedly.
I’ll just scroll through the post-game clip shows of the “debate”. If there are any real zingers, I’m sure those will be featured and excerpted. Plus, Gaetz, KLake and others will be in Milwaukee at the event. They will be asked questions by press.
https://ktvz.com/politics/cnn-us-politics/2023/08/21/trump-already-taped-tucker-carlson-interview-that-is-expected-to-air-on-gop-debate-night-sources-say/
Thanks Mikey!
I did not know that the interview was already taped; makes sense though.
Yes, I expect that MTG, Lake, Gaetz and Donalds will have comments and commentary. I did read that Don Jr. and Kimberly Guilfoyle will be on their Rumble Channel doing coverage and commentary of the planned debate show.
I’m unclear about something: I didn’t think that TC ann0unced that his interview with President Trump would be streamed (or aired) the same time as the GOP debate.
I had the feeling people just assumed that.
I would have thought that POTUS would want to watch the debate himself so that he could combat any attacks that came his way.
The interview between Tucker Carlson and President Trump was pre-recorded last week TLHoward…If will be aired the same time as the debates, but President Trump will be able to watch the debates…:0)
Heh heh heh…
Is that true? source?
It will be a nickname gold mine for him ! 😂
Ah, thanks.
A lot has happened in the news since then, though.
Do I want an open thread here on CTH? NO. But thank you for offering.
it will be hell
but watching it will give you insight into their messaging and strategy.
Please do not watch it live. Don’t give them the ratings. We all know threads of it will surface and we can all watch or at least read about the event later.
They act like they do not need us. Fact is, they do need us. Let’s show them who needs who.
Run the transaction lists of donations for ActBlue
(the company doing donations of small amounts on behalf of people that never donated ANYTHING and have no bank account history showing a transfer)
thats how.
RNC “debate” participants – the political equivilant of living in a van down by the river.
No interest in their motivational spiel. . .
Nice one Marshall thanks for the laughs
R.D.
Since “Sleepy Creepy Crooked Joe” Fixed the Economy…”living in a van down by the river” is “luxury digs”!
I think the current vernacular is now “Sleeping rough on Skidrow or the Tenderloin” in the the “Soviet Socialist Republic of Commifornia”
PS: Every since Hurricane Hillary “flushed the toilet” on the southland…the “Street Folks” scurried out of their desert drainage and freeway greenbelt encampments and are highly visible on the street…getting high and panhandling…LGB!
The Faux Debate is the ONLY thing they’re qualified for. And maybe to go get me a sandwich.
Personally I would not have them critters handle anything I may ingest unless it was a vacuum sealed container and I was the one to break the seal to open it… if they did work for me I would inspect everything before leaving…. I would trust none of those bass turds further than I can spit…
Agreed deplorabledaveinsocal
I’ll watch the outtakes and memes online. Lol.
Im not keen on the idea of Carlson interviewing VSGPDJT during the debate- X’s space might mess up on purpose and not stream anything, then only show a cut up product after the fact.
Truth is, since Tucker interviewed Andrew Tate and got all flustered and borderline flirting with him (my opinion) I think he’s got a screw loose.
SD showed a meme a while back if tucker being the grim reaper killing people’s political careers after he interviews them- what if that’s the plan for Trump? Not that Tucker could, but what if he tries?
You can’t destroy what’s truly pure. There is no defeating truth. Many have tried, many have failed. Let Tucker try. He will lose majority of his viewers just like faux.
I’m curious to know if you have seen any evidence in any of Tucker’s reporting over the past 6 months that could possibly indicate the presence of an ulterior motive such as you describe.
Although others may differ, I believe that Tucker Carlson’s probing reports, Elon Musk’s ownership of Twitter, and the John Durham Report were three watershed events that blew an irreparable hole in the Left Wing’s seemingly invincible Iron Curtain of disinformation.
It started first with Carlson’s riveting essays of other worldly inspiration, followed then by Musk’s wholly improbable ownership of Twitter which brought us the Twitter Files which burned to the ground the anti-Trump factions’ fabrications. Followed then by the Durham Report, the very first unambiguous, inside-the-government confirmation that DOJ had indeed been weaponized against Trump.
In the end, it won’t matter how briefly these persons and/or events were operative. Their influence will forever change the complexion of the world around us, and there is no way to undo them. They have opened eyes to the evil around us, and Carlson, more than any other journalist in the entire world, has the most sublime understanding of the dangers we face.
Needless to say, I see no danger in a Carlson/Trump interview. Quite the contrary, this interview was actually fated to be.
Clown Show
“I’m not sure” how many people are planning to tune into the irrelevant debate……..the “I’m not sure(s)” will probably be the ONLY ones watching the show…….:-)
NO,no, no, no
The person it might help is Vivek. Watch that guy. Something about an army hiding in a horse.
All rhetoric.
No substance.
He is an actor.
He knows his lines.
Vivek is part of the Indian Mafia invasion, IMHO.
Ask George Soros’ brother.
A walking, talking WEF\ globalist operation.
Soros paid his Yale Tuition
Look!
Vivek and his wife prepping for the debate.
Definitely presidential material /s.
they didn’t do the push up part
fail
try again
I guess this is supposed to appeal to whom, Google-ites?
I agree. He is a smoooot talker…
NBC will be showing Carol Burnett: 90 Years of Laughter during the same time slot. Wanna bet which gets higher ratings?
No, it isn’t on until one hour after the debates end. That special previously aired back in May. It was all right, but more like a celebrity roast than a documentary. Lots of guest stars and other comedians. The alphabet networks are running low on new programming because of the strikes.
Don’t give fox the ratings. Let the trans news go the way of bud light.
Alex Bruesewitz 🇺🇸
@alexbruesewitz
TRUMP WINS AGAIN:
@mattgaetz drops major news on @Newsma that Trump surrogates WILL be in the spin room for tomorrow’s debate
Another L for The Establishment
Video linked in tweet…
My guess is Doug Burgum and Asa Hutchinson both being former Governors who toed the GOPe/RNC party line while in office is the reason they got in. Asa is a Never Trumper like Krispy Kreme Christie and is another reason he got in! JMO
The little I know of Burgum, he seems like he’s all right. Certainly a lot better than Christie or Pence.
I had the opportunity to meet him when he was the CEO of Great Plains Software. He is smart and polite. I had a good feeling about his software. I don’t know anything about his politics.
I will not get the chance to learn because I don’t watch RINOs and I don’t watch Murdoch News.
JohnPaul, check out the fast facts on Burgum at http://www.vpdebate2024.com
The PAC MakeAmericaGreatAgain Inc —just put up the website
All the junior varsity debaters are featured , including Mike Pence with his fly.
Fox apparently blocked the site on all its computers lol
johnny maga
@_johnnymaga
Larry Elder on being snubbed from the Fox News debate stage despite meeting requirements:
“It is designed to make sure Ron Desantis is the nominee — anyone other than Trump. This is BS”
Video linked in tweet…
Not a fan of Larry Elder…but it seems the RNC have put racial quotas in place…5 white, 1 black, 2 Indian.
And since when is Rasmussen a supporter of Larry Elder.
I have zero interest in the RNC, FOX, or their debates.
I hope they have a good time discussing RINO issues on RINO TV.
For me it would be like watching 80 fingernails sliding across a chalkboard. I quit Fox after the Carlson firing and will not look back tonight.
I do have one prayer to offer for the corporate candidates: May God fill each of you tonight with enough rotten belly gas that you all suffer from non-stop farting for the entire debate. Now for that I might tune in to watch.
Thanks for asking Sundance but I’ll pass on the open thread 0 interest in anything these shills have to say kind of you to ask our opinion though be well my friend
R.D.
“let me know if you want an open thread with livestream in the comment section.”
Sundance, thanks but no thanks. Listen, take the wife out for dinner, watch the sunset, relax, put on an old b&w movie, and enjoy a peaceful evening. They’ll be nothing new tonight, we’ve seen it all before: talking heads engaged in a meaningless dissection of nothing-burger.
Me and mine will be wherever President Trump is…and, that, I believe, is with Tucker. No need for a livestream, but, if you want to do a Mystery Science Theater 3000 thing…via the recorded debate, perhaps the next day…that could be pretty hilarious. Just a thought!
The fly was right…
For me this photo will be as iconic, albeit in a more disturbing way, as any Life Magazine photo of a politician.
Me, too, Cats. THIS is how he should be remembered.
Oh.. he shall.
God will not be mocked, and He has shown immense patience.
Until now.
Live stream it
but mute the sound and play nonstop circus music in its place.
No open thread needed.
However, maybe host a thread on an old Beavis and Butt-head episode?
Trump and Trump super PACs really know how to troll. 😁😂🤣
*****
Henry Rodgers
@henryrodgersdc
NEW: Trump’s super PAC has made a Vice Presidential Debate 2024 website with the other GOP candidates currently running for President on it:
Cont…..
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Web page linked….
Vice Presidentual Debates 2024
https://www.vpdebate2024.com/
Now that is funny!
I love clever.
Could have smacked Pence around more, though. 😡
i was listening for a short time the other day to ‘clay and buck’ talk about this. they’re never-trumpers. the worst who could EVER try to take Rush’s place. it was sad, really, but political ‘pundits’ on TV/Radio always are now.
i won’t be watching the farce.
thank you again, Sundance for taking one for the team.
I have no interest in watching the debate. I already know who I’ll vote for!!
Come on mam. Don’t vote for Biden.
I’ve been a news/political junkie my whole life and I’ve never heard of Doug Burgum until the last few weeks. There’s no way he qualified.
And yet, Larry Elder is suing the GOP for excluding him from the debates. Go figure… 🤷♀️
Larry Elder is decent. I would rather have him in there than some of the other clowns, like christie, hutchinson or pence. Oh, and I’m not watching.
He’s a turncoat, the minute he starting running for Governor in LA he started saying things like the election wasn’t stolen. He was too easily scared off for whatever reason. We needed him more as a radio host, but he gave that up and now he’s just another scared of the globalist politician we can’t depend on or trust. The globalist don’t seem to trust him either. He’s in no man’s land.
I really can’t figure out why Elder ran for either.
Prior to all this recent hoopla, Larry Elder was a Trump supporter. Why would he want to run against him? Why would any Republican want to run against the man who produced so much in 4 short years, a man who stood up for America First regarding economy, the US Border, etc.
We are seeing what the RNC really is, and also seeing how “donors” AKA Chamber of Commerce and the WEF are operating in OUR USA.
Indeed. GOPe wanted B. Jenner to run against Nancy’s nephew , but the base said oh, come on! Larry was popped in the last minute for the sake of someone appearing. In order to run, he had to say 2020 was on the up and up. He had been saying differently before as I recall. But saying all was well was a requirement of the GOPe.
He’s an idiot.
Well, Fox has already got Tim Scott and Ramaswamy for color. If they add Larry Elder it would look like the GOP is trying to hard to appease minorities.
The RNC is a discriminatory organization.
Larry Elder appears to have met all the RNC criteria to appear on the debate stage.
Yet Mr. Elder is not allowed to be on the debate stage. Why?
Donald Trump Jr. has been banned by the RNC from attending the debate. Why? Will I watch the RNC debate on Fox? I’m not a fan of fixed phoniness.
The debate already has their designated token. Can’t have Elder splitting that demographic.
I believe that’s the reason too.
Disgraceful call if Larry qualified.
This is like 4th grade recess games all over again. Wasn’t once enough for most?
Its the RNC. “Qualified” is rather low bar – meaning that one only needs to slither under.
Me too, and this is THE first time I’ve heard of him. Dark horse candidate? 😏
Rupert and Baby-Face Ryan making up the rules as they go along…
Isn’t he the one who was sending folks $20.00 and they were than to do at $1.00 to his campaign so he could get the needed numbers?
No. That was the Bergum dude. He started it, then the Miami mayor guy, Surez (sp?) tried doing the same.
Larry says he’s suing but I’ve never seen him get even 1% in any poll. He may have qualified as far as donor requirements, but I doubt he met the polling criteria.
Let’s see if he pulls the race card?