This poll seems to align with the previous forecast predictions. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has spent a great deal of time in South Carolina over the past two weeks. The result, he’s dropped from second to third place. The more voters get to see DeSantis, the lower his in-state polling becomes.
DISCLAIMER – South Carolina is an open primary, vulnerable to Big Club shenanigans.
President Trump has a clear lead in the Palmetto state at 48% according to the latest Fox (Shaw Research) poll [DATA HERE]. Nikki Haley has entered first loser position at 14%, followed closely by Ron DeSantis at 13% and Tim Scott at 10%.
Candidate I Don’t Know (4%) is now ahead of Mike Pence, Vivek Ramaswamy, Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson. While Gas Station Sushi is polling ahead of Doug Burgum, Larry Elder, Will Hurd and Francis Suarez
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At 48%, President Donald Trump is 16 points higher in the polls than he was when he won the South Carolina primary in 2016.
NATIONAL OUTLOOK – The latest Harvard Harris national poll [DATA HERE] shows Donald Trump beating Joe Biden 45% to 39%, which includes President Trump holding a massive 18-point advantage with independent voters 45% to 27%.
Meanwhile the New York Times is reporting the controversial anti-Trump attack ad portraying Ron DeSantis as the slayer of the alphabet people was actually created by the campaign, likely inspired by the direction of Ms. Christina Pushaw who has been conspicuously quiet since the rebranding huggy phase began.
[…] One recent move that drew intense blowback, including from Republicans, was the campaign’s sharing of a bizarre video on Twitter that attacked Mr. Trump as too friendly to L.G.B.T.Q. people and showed Mr. DeSantis with lasers coming out of his eyes. The video drew a range of denunciations, with some calling it homophobic and others homoerotic before it was deleted.
But it turns out to be more of a self-inflicted wound than was previously known: A DeSantis campaign aide had originally produced the video internally, passing it off to an outside supporter to post it first and making it appear as if it was generated independently, according to a person with knowledge of the incident. The DeSantis campaign declined to comment on specific questions about its spending, the candidate’s travel and the video. (link)
The DeSantis campaign has turned to the Utah Mormon community looking for financial assistance.
Politico – Top officials on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s campaign acknowledged to donors on Sunday that they’d spent too much money and that further changes would be made as they look to recover from a disappointing start, according to three people who were present for the discussion.
Appearing before around 70 of the campaign’s top contributors at the Stein Eriksen Lodge in Deer Valley, Utah, DeSantis’ campaign manager Generra Peck said money had been spent on operations that had turned out to be ineffective and that the campaign would move to a leaner, “insurgent” posture going forward. Among the changes being made were to “expose” voters to DeSantis more, said Nick Iarossi, a Florida-based lobbyist and fundraiser who was at the event. (read more)
The following picture shared to social media is apropos of the Ron Desantis Utah visit in a humorous Dennis Miller style of funny:
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Is Gas Station Sushi trying to split the vote? What pac is behind that?
Gas station sushi is a better idea than any uniparty candidate!!
I am pretty sure it is a BIG Oil PAC known as Shell-licious Shrimp”: A shrimp tempura roll with a creamy avocado center, topped with eel sauce and sesame seeds.
A pac of Tums
Gas station sushi is deadly. What are you promoting exactly???
Playing off of Sundance’s killer sarcasm:
Candidate I Don’t Know (4%) is now ahead of Mike Pence, Vivek Ramaswamy, Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson. While Gas Station Sushi is polling ahead of Doug Burgum, Larry Elder, Will Hurd and Francis Suarez.
Forgive me, I’m very literal tonight. Lost my son 9yrs ago today, and missing lots of nuances (hate that word). Really appreciate and love you, SD and all treepers tho. You do make the treehouse fun!
🤝🙏
Ty, my friend, I’m inconsolable at this moment
I’m so sorry, dear Mims. You are among friends who I know understand. May His peace which passes all understanding find you, sweet friend. Bet
Love you, Bet. Sincerely, you are one of my treasured treepers. G-d is always with me, thank you for the reminder.
I’ve left a message on this morning’s Open Thread for you💕
God bless you, Mims. Prayers up.
Prayers for you Mims! May the peace of Christ be upon you.
I am so very sorry for your loss – no words, just love and prayer – a fellow traveler
President Trump is the only candidate who vowed to stop the Ukraine Slaughter-
In One Day Russia Destroyed 15 Leopard Tanks and 20 Bradley IFVs
The Russian military has destroyed a record amount of Ukraine’s Western-supplied armor in the last 24 hours while repelling Kiev’s much-hyped counteroffensive, President Vladimir Putin told his Belarusian counterpart Alexander Lukashenko on Sunday.
The Russian leader delivered the remarks while speaking to Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko in St. Petersburg. Lukashenko, citing his own data, said that Moscow’s forces had taken out at least 15 German-made Leopard tanks and over 20 US-made Bradley infantry fighting vehicles in just one clash.
Putin appeared to agree with this assessment, saying that “apparently, [we] have never destroyed so much in one day” and proceeding to explain that this figure stemmed from the fact that Russian troops were facing Ukrainian units that were “fully equipped with foreign hardware.”
He added that since the start of the Ukrainian counteroffensive in the early days of June, Kiev had lost more than 26,000 soldiers, describing the long-anticipated push as “a failure.” Putin also noted that “foreign mercenaries” fighting for Kiev had suffered heavy losses as well, due to their “stupidity,” vowing to make this reality known to the public in the countries that had sent those people to the frontline.
Russian soldiers show off ‘graveyard’ of US Bradleys (VIDEO)
https://www.rt.com/russia/580151-ukraine-record-losses-western-vehicles/
Inside the tank or an APC is a really bad place to be without air cover when fighting a country with a modern Air Force. I think every APC holds at least a dozen people. It’s beyond horrific the scale of slaughter necessary to front the looting of the US Treasury. Will the people responsible ever be held accountable?
I saw a comment earlier on Moon of Alabama:
Milley should just take the Bradleys we are sending to Ukraine and blow them up here. We’d save the expenses of shipping plus a lot of Ukrainian soldier’s lives!
Milley should be sitting in one when he does.
350,000 Uke KIA according to MacGregor.
MacGregor is a solid,consistently good sorce on all things about the Ukrainian war.
MacGregor has solid sources and impeccable credentials.
It is grim in Ukraine. Anyone still flying their flag has no idea about the slaughter…nor the US corruption.
And 60,000 Ukraine children are estimated to be at risk of being scooped up by traffickers.
Especially when those tanks and fighting vehicles are creeping forward through a massive minefield. SMDH
Anything to get Trump out and the establishment in…
The wheels are coming off the DeSantis campaign. The GOPe tried to pass their lackey off as a MAGA candidate but the base wasn’t fooled. I contend RDS will drop out of the race by early fall.
It won’t be long before the donor base stops giving money to DeSantis and shifting their funding to either Tim Scott or Nikki Haley.
“I contend RDS will drop out of the race by early fall.”
A lot of folks have called RDS “Jeb 2.0,” but Jeb lasted until sometime in the winter. I see RDS as a closer comp — as a primary candidate — to Scott Walker, who entered the race as a highly anticipated representative of Tea Party principles, but exited meekly by early fall after barely making a dent in any of the early debates.
Scott Walker couldn’t get reelected Governor of Wisconsin after President Trump brought billions of dollars of industry back to Wisconsin and campaigned for him. I honestly think Walker threw his reelection so that 2020 could be stolen in Wisconsin!
Probably. But Walker never showed the charisma or presence to make it on the national stage even before the debates. Whatever faults Trump has, lack of presence or charisma are not among them
The comparison is not to PDJT, but to Meatball Ron, who has less charisma than Walker.
Walker had real midwestern authenticity to him, despite his bland personality. At least he wasn’t a fake.
Ron is much more fake all around.
I don’t doubt that one bit. I’ve been watching the R governors all become complicit as the establishment R’s stole the grassroots’ precincts last year.
Foolish move, a year too early. That gave us a year to recover & a year to win by 2024! 🎉
And neither of the latter will do well.
That’s okay, laugh as they blow through billions.
We Trump supporters are not going anywhere except to support President Trump.
Not to nitpick, but were the wheels ever truly on to begin? The whole campaign has been a cluster since before he admitted he was running.
Ron (in)DeCisive was just kinda sorta running.
He has lied every step of the way- to his constituents, stacking the law, so he could run, not announcing he was running, but merely going on a “book tour”\, and abandoning his Floridians as they anticipate another terrible disaster.
And he is a disloyal spineless Ryan RINO. The more I learn about him the more I disdain him. And I used to think he was a good governor. But I have learned about that too.
Now we know why the Big Club wants to change the primary order – South Carolina has open primaries. Yeah, we can see the play to manipulate the voting to stop President Trump’s momentum.
In our South Carolina open
Primary it seems to me Asa Hutchinson should be shoo in for second place. He supports open borders and genital mutilation of minors through surgery or drugs (puberty blockers).
He is the perfect candidate for Big labor, big business, big pharma, you know the huge donors to Democrat and Republican campaign consultants and bought politicians. Asa checks all the boxes.
Ada, not Asa,..not sure WHY, but if PDJT uses it, its his name for now on.
I REALLY do NOT want Trump to debate these losers– certainly not on FOX. Do not shine a light on them. Hold an alternate event. PUH–LEEZE!!!
The RNC and FOX will continue to stab him in the back. It will not change their traitorous behavior toward him an inch.
Trump said on Truth today that he’d seen from multiple sources he should do his own show at the same time with Tucker as the moderator. Trump said he finds that interesting,
Yea. Let them destroy themselves and he get all the ratings.
That would be devastating to the candidates and send one helluva shot across the bow to the elites, DS & MSM as well as further awaken the masses.
Brilliant.
Oh, that would be awesome where Trump is commenting live on their answers. That would be pure genius.
That would though deny us of a Trump quip about stuffing squirting out of Teddy Bair’s eyes.
I’m with you. I kinda want PDJT to go onstage with these (L)users and sanitize the primaries.
But they shouldn’t be having debates or a primary to begin with – that’s why I support President Trump not appearing.
These scumbags are not in the same league as The Donald, no way he should share the stage with traitors.
Hopefully he will do play by play with his sons.
Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) acronym perhaps? Hutchinson’s temperament qualifies at the very least.
Wondered if he was ever an Assistant District Attorney (ADA) and if thats as high as he got, before getting into politics, but never bothered to research it.
He was a US Attorney at age 31, appointed by Reagan. Had a law practice but no info about him being a public prosecutor.
How about ADD Hutchinson?
To be taken seriously once again, all Ron DeSantis would have to do is make election fraud his number one issue. Make freeing the January 6th people his number two issue. Make ending the war in Ukraine his number three issue, Pledge to do everything in his power to help elect President Trump, and he would shoot up the polls like a rocket, even after all the nonsense he and his campaign have engaged in. It’s going to be too late for that pretty soon. He’s already lost a lot of people permanently. Get back to Florida, Son, straighten out the mess you made there. There will be another day. Because this ain’t happening. He has zero chance of catching President Trump. President Trump, and everyone who voted for him have unfinished business. The retribution presidency. If DeSantis were smart, he would hop on that train. His donors would be upset, oh well.
Nobody wants meatball anymore. We will never forget what he did to President Trump or what he try to do in the past.
Yrah, there will be no “another day” for RDS.
MAYBE, if the Big Club survives, they will give him a senate seat, like they did Mitt, as a consolation prize, but the REPUBLICAN BASE, which is MAGA will never forgive or forget.
At the rate RDS is going…he may be lucky to serve his full gov. term. FL folks are not happy about the sky high insurance costs…and hurricane season isn’t far off.
MAGA will never unsee the real RDS. His presidential hopes & dreams are over.
The insurance – OMG!
I have neighbors in a small house paying 7x the rate my elderly father pays for a real nice house on a lake in GA.
And they claims it’s getting ready to pop even higher.
Already the highest rate of increase in country last couple of years.
I’m still wondering if RDS isn’t a closet-communist who was sent to destroy FL… I know it’s farfetched…but some good things should be happening just on accident…yet FL is getting destroyed.
Bunch of stuff he’s enacting that appears to be turning FL into CA by 2025-27 timeframe.
It’s gone from paradise to expanding struggling for many.
I’m starting to weigh options on contingencies for exiting in the future and it’s heartbreaking.
Wow. Minnesota is still salvageable outside the Metro… Minneapolis is a 💩-hole… I refuse to go there anymore and I loved the Twin Cities as a kid.
They all are, he was being used to turn Florida blue , that’s why Kamala was in Jacksonville. He’s an obtuse little man who wears elevator boots.
Jacksonville, my home, where I’m convinced that the mayor’s race was just stolen only 2-3 months ago.
The RINO wing of the Uniparty is turning FL blue under the outdated idea that we are divided Commie Dem vs RINO.
But I still believe that most Floridians would still vote for MAGA if the choice was Uniparty vs MAGA.
I think you’re right.
Who will they displace? Scott or Rubio?
Don’t know that Meatball would beat either of them at this point.
For sure: never forgive; never forget; never vote for RD again! NEVER.
NEVER DeFraud!
St Ron has already shown MAGA WHO he really is. His political future is dead outside of FL…and probably in FL too.
It’s obvious to anyone paying attention that the DeCeitful DeFraud couple is DYING to become fabulously wealthy and have a seat at the globalist table.
NOT of the backs/votes of MAGA!
Sundance always points out the fact that he can’t campaign in Florida. Bullseye
Yes. If he was so popular in FL then he could do rallies and use the footage of Meatball being surrounded by 20,000 happy voters in his ad campaigns. But he isn’t and so he doesn’t.
I haven’t a clue why the DeSantis sycophants keep thinking he’s salvageable or there’s another day for him to supposedly shine. Got news, he exposed himself for who and what he is. He’s nothing but an egocentric disingenuous back stabbing RINO who knowingly accepted money and employment from the uni-party/globalists for the sole purpose of eliminating DJT and destroying MAGA as a political force. Basically, he sniffed the money and power then willingly joined those who are attempting to destroy our Constitution, rule of law and Constitutional Republic to enrich themselves off the backs of US citizens/tax-payers. In addition, he broke an implied promise to the FL electorate who voted for him when he won a second term as Governor. Bottom line is that he will be lucky if the FL electorate doesn’t remove him from office upon his return considering his actions in this GOP primary and also as Governor.
All true.
It’s a good thing for a man to get his ass kicked every now and then. Builds character.
Ron has no character, and never has. There’s no character in there to rebuild. He was & always has been a sell out. Most of us just didn’t see it at the beginning. It’s been said that FL was the sacrificial lamb by the RNC to fool R voters.
Remember Flori-duh? It got us those programmable voting machines.
“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” -Soren Kierkegaard
I for one am beyond tired of certain pundits whom I mostly enjoy (*cough cough* Jack Posobeic) always going back to the mantra “He was a very good governor, but…” Also, sadly, my otherwise adored Lou Dobbs.
They ignore the actual FL people at their peril. FL appears to be rendering a new opinion on DeStablishment and it ain’t pretty.
P.S. Jack is young, so no surprise he suffers from neophilia in the form of what looks like beginning to be starry eyes for Vivek. Sigh.
Jack has up until now been very clear about his PDJT support, which is why I listen… But who knows?
Yes. Posobiec is turning out to be a big disappointment.
My theory is that all of these talking heads NEED this presidential race to appear to be “close” so that they can talk, talk, talk about it and get people to tune in. Team RINO probably slips them an envelope with $$$ in it to keep the Race For President interesting so that in 2028 they can revive the gravitas of these “presidential candidates”.
Somehow, in RINO world, “presidential candidate” means “important” and “better than you”. Just like Laura Ingraham sought to teach PDJT a lesson. She has “covered 7 presidential races” while he has only been “president once and lost the second attempt”.
But since PDJT is crushing his RINO competition they have to pretend that these traitors to MAGA are serious competition in order to keep the weak minded tuned in.
I’m surprised that Posobiec is cosying up to Vivek because it was Posobiec who first alerted me to what a total fraud he is
That’s good! I must have missed the show where he did the alert. I was basing my comment on a recent show (day or so ago) that I listened to where he was trying to interview Vivek live and the feed wasn’t working, so they postponed.
He just sounded awfully fanboyish to me. But if he is aware of, and has divulged Vivek’s worst drawbacks – the support of digital healthcare IDs is the example that leaps to mind – then I’m glad to hear it.
DeSaster abandoned Florida while the insurance and electric companies were fleecing Floridians. I doubt he will be re-elected here in Florida. I don’t regret voting for him, but he will not get my vote again.
He’s term limited, won’t be running for Gov again, won’t be elected again anywhere for anything.
The silence on the raid at Trumps home in Florida was the end.
His silence then spoke very loudly — the plan was in the works. Evil is as evil does.
I’m a Florda Girl…..and Bingo we have a winner. The silence said everything.
I mark that point too. That was the point of clarity.
I have yet to hear ANY of the other candidate (other than Donald Trump) give ANY kind of detailed policy proposals as to how they would deal with inflation, anemic job growth, trade deficits, or high gas prices…but, as even Bill Clinton figured out THOSE are the issues that people are discussing around the kitchen table and THOSE are the issues on which a majority of people will cast their ballot!
Guatanteed none of them, not even vivesectionist can credibly promise to leave SS and Medicare alone.
Only PDJT, by reversing exfiltration of wealth thru Trade policy, opening up oil and closing the border can ‘save’ SS/Medicare, and restore the middle class, and MAGA.
And, any other candidate is just making empty promises, and we have read their lips, before.
ONLY PDJT did MORE than everything he said he was going to do, and there is only ONE promise he failed to fullfill, and its WHY he has to go back;
To DRAIN THE SWAMP.
Your comment on SS — yahoo has an article up from the Washington Post this morning about “Trump’s GOP Rivals Open Door for cutting Social Security”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-gop-rivals-open-door-221456231.html
And guess what signs Dems are carrying in rural Minnesota parades…NO CUTS TO SOCIAL SECURITY MEDICARE… once again the GOPe tee’d up the Uniparty opposition
Deja Vu All Over Again.
That’s what they do.
The Uniparty cannot have democrats crossing over and voting for PDJT even if he says that there will be no cuts to SS and medicare. They need to brand the RINO party as the party of throwing grandma over the cliff in order to keep voters split 50/50.
The DeSantis campaign has turned to the Utah Mormon community looking for financial assistance.
Tapping the ol’ Mitten firewall it seems. Never tap the Mitt cesspool firewall.
DeSanctus has turned to the Utah Mormon CHURCH.
The Utah Mormon CASH COW.
The Utah Mormon CHURCH is only slightly more supportive of MAGA than obama.
Which is prolly why romney calls it “”home” and DeSanctus is bending over, “Hat in Hand”.
Most don’t realise how much money that group has and what that group is all about. More sunlight please. And Eff you Jason Chaffetz.
The Mormon leadership is Uniparty approved and certified…LDS members need to get away from that corrupt organization or start to call it out.
Beware the candidates looking to fill the vacancy left by Utah Congressman Chris Stewart… Becky Edwards is a yuge NEVER TRUMPER. Bruce Hough…
“USA USA” – Country star Jason Aldean responds to woke controversy like a LEGEND at concert – Top Trending Video
https://commoncts.blogspot.com/2023/07/country-star-jason-aldean-responds-to.html
Lots of black influencers are agreeing with Jason Aldean.
51% say economic issues are their biggest concern.
DeSantis refuses to say the words “economic issues” much less offer any economic policy
Fox News: Its a mystery why more people aren’t supporting DeSantis
Doughboy Meatball says he’ll fix the economy in about eight years…
It’s a mystery why you anyone still watches Fox news.
👆👆👆Hear hear Liz!
Cuz the talkies (msm and others) sit on their shows and PROCLAIM Bidenomics is working!!!
I mean 3% inflation!!! Just listen to them, they will tell us so!
I remember when the same talkies said Trumps 1% was bad….🤷🏻🤷♀️🤷♂️🤷🏻🤷♀️🤷♂️🤷♀️🤷♂️🤷🏻🤷♀️
Why waste our time listening to liars? That’s what got us into the mess we’re in now – but back then we didn’t know they were liars.
how soon before “inguinal rash” out polls discountis?
Once the Morman $$$ runs out?
That will take some time since they are sitting on 100 billion
The LOVE of money…
Doughboy Meatball…
“Ha ha.”
It’s always the same. The “BigClub” as Sundance terms it always plays the angles on these primaries. They have the duel home-state lackeys in SC, and of course, this is how they cover cheating too, and naturally, they’ll use the cross-party voters in the open primary to try to at least blacken Trump’s eye or something. It’s what they do. That’s why they have their lackey up there in New Hampshire stirring the pot for ABT(AnybodyButTrump) and I suspect it’s only a matter of time before they deploy the Texas Mafia against PDJT. They want to cut him with the inattentive with the whole lawfare angle. They want to eat into him every place they can, every way they can. The BigClub Republicans hit him with the dirty tricks IN the party, while the Dems-loaded DOJ DCMafia hits him from the lawfare angle, and then all the money being smuggle into their political operations from various sources… It’s what SD always says: There are trillions at stake, and more, not to mention the fate of our Republic.
I say bring it on. The American people are stronger, even if they don’t all know it yet.
The “inattentive voter base” has grown vanishingly small, in the last seven years,…there just aren’t that many left, to ‘appeal’ to.
The R’s who recently ‘threatened’ (yeah, right!) to leave the party (be still my heart) actually honestly expressed this.
“when we see constituents, its not just red-necks in pick ups! This populist fever is Drs, Accountants, its just TERRIBLE!” Only slightly paraphrasing from memory.
Only those making over $250,000/ year want “anybody but Trump” to “save the Republican party” from this populist insurgency,..and there just ain’t nearly enough of them to matter.
Sure, they will TRY to game the primary system, which is one of the reasons why theprecinctstrategy is SO important.
Because much of the actual WORK of conducting primaries, is done BY the precinct captains, and having MAGA P.C.’s, can prevent or expose the shenanigans.
So, now we have 2 campaign “spots” that have backfired, the “AI” spot, and the “Homo spot” c’mon guys, 3rd times the charm, shoot yourselfin the foot, yet again.
This is, and hasbeen from the outset a BUSH league campaign, and the Bushes have always been dirty, underhanded barstuds.
To be blunt Dutchman, I’m less worried about “appealing” to them than I am about the fact that so many of them still watch the same garbage news and still suffer the daily drumbeat of propaganda through MSM outlets. They hear about indictments, and just like the Dems plan, they don’t dig into it but just think “hmm, must be bad.” I see a lot of that among otherwise good and decent people, who would otherwise be inclined to MAGA down the line. They know Biden’s a disaster. These are the same people who think, for shallow reasons I can’t understand, that RFKjr would be a good VP for PDJT. If you think that kind of thing, or are even plausibly capable of believing that kind of thing, you’re NOT an attentive person when it comes to politics and governance. RFKjr is an absolute kook, and despite his blather about deconstructing the IC, the fact is that he comes from a family that was only too happy to steal elections, and only too happy to be in bed with unsavory sorts, and absolutely satisfied to use the machinery of gov’t against their political foes. The fact that these folk don’t know any of that means they’re not really all that attentive. The fact that they don’t know anything about his environmental positions, his economic positions, his second amendment positions, tells me that they aren’t attentive, yet here I see them yacking up a Trump/RFKjr ticket. It’s madness. So when I talk about the “inattentive,” I don’t know who precisely you’re describing, as opposed to whom I’m describing, but they don’t seem like the same people. RFKjr is being used precisely as Sundance outlined in another post: To try to scoop away some Trump Democrats. Like I said, it’s about attacking Trump at the margins.
As far as the inattentive, they’re easily misled by MSM. That’s who I’m talking about, and it’s a bigger segment than I think you perceive. IMO.
That said, there’s merit to everything else you’ve said here. Particularly the theprecinctstrategy. The Bush league indeed. If you think they’re not behind the Paxton impeachment, I’ve got some ocean-front property in Kansas that’ll interest the heck out of you.
Yeah BUSHED Paxton for sure.
Admittedly, I live in RURAL, RUBY RED America; a 2A sanctuary County, in a 2A Sanctuary State, where a CC is not even required; open closed or ,..up yer you know what,..anyone that can legally owned can carry any way they want.
Anyway, I talk to lots of people, strangers at the grocery store, the people in line, the cashiers, etc.
I find almost all are very well informed, they know the Canadian banks shut off accounts after the Freedom convoy, little details like that that got NO MSM coverage.
MSM and Bug Tech each lost $1 BILLION in 2022, and there on tract to lose more in 2023.
And thats because they are losing AUDIENCE; CTH, TGP and Warroom now have more eyes than all of the cable news outlets.
And, theres the polling, which I contend is LARGELY not MAGA, cause MAGA don’t poll.
A recent Rasmussen poll;
65% of ALL respondents believe J6 was an FBI set up.
They sure as hell didn’t get that from MSM!
Anyway, thank you for the detailed responce, our minor difference in perspective is nothing in comparison with the vast amount we agree on.
Cheers!
Thanks, and amen to most of that. It’s true: MAGA doesn’t reflect in polls so much, in general. I think there’s merit to what you’re saying, and I see some of the same. I live in a fairly red place too, but what I’ve noticed is that there’s a whole class of people who fits this description: They work, they vote more out of a sense of duty/habit, but they don’t pay that close attention, they consume mostly MSM, and while they can tell you a thousand things that have gone to Hell in the last 2.5 years, they also tend to accept whatever the MSM tells them by way of explanation, and actually THINK that makes them smart.
Even before Nov 3rd 2020, I had long before ceased relying on MSM for news, including FoxNews. It’s just that on that date, they went on our official DNR list(Do Not Receive) but for many, many people, mostly habit-bound, mostly older than 40(and particularly older than 60), they don’t get their news any other way than the MSM. They just don’t. A.) They don’t really care enough about it to seek out better sources, but B.) will watch it to stay at least vaguely aware of current events, and C.) will show up to vote and do so informed on the basis of A and B. That’s the crowd that worries me.
Umderstood, I HAVE encountered such, on occasion.
One Republican voter said to me, years ago something like;
Oh, I never get involved in the PRIMARIES,…I’ll let the party sort out who the nominee is, and then I’ll start paying attention.”
If we had been higher than 2 floors, I’d have thrown him out the window.
Still, traditionally THEY have always talked about “ENERGY” as in how much energy/enthusiasm the candidates supporters have.
POPULIST Candidates of any stripe, if they get going ALWAYS have far more energy than Uniparty hacks, and PDJT’s supporters have far more ENERGY, ENTHUSIASM and devotion than I have ever seen, and I believe WE far outnumber the lo-fos you are talking about.
I believe the RNC will be UN-Successful in depriving PDJT of the nomination, and so in the general these lo-fos will vote for him, as the R candidate.
IMHO, they will not be a major factor in the primaries, where most if them probably won’t bother to vote.
Great back-&-forth Dutch and Mark.
Another observation, the liberal/progs are creating chaos on the State/Local levels.
We (meaning honorable, hard-working Americans) are on overload.
They can only keep up with so much before they run out of bandwidth.
Yet, I, too, talk to a lot of people and from listening to them I swear most of them are Treepers…so we are making progress.
The booooshes are traitorous pos.
God bless you for mentioning the power of precincts. ♥️
Ron should quit now and go back to Florida. He never had a chance and he knew it, but his wife wanted to be a first lady so bad that she forced him into this humiliating act. I wouldn’t surprised if she divorced him after he drops out because she planned for this moment all her life and he failed her big league
He’s not even welcome in FL anymore. It will get worse, too.
Meatball said a few things in the past that he can never ever recover from even though he’s trying to distance himself from it .
He actually encouraged our intelligence communities to continue to harass and prosecute Trump , he said it shortly after Trump did the CNN town hall .
He is doomed .
Polls show what real live voters are thinking. They do not show the more than one hundred thousand phantom voters ready to be unleashed 30 days before the election. That’s how we lost 2020 and 2022 and there is no possible reason other than wishful thinking it won’t happen again next year.
Don’t look for the RNC to do anything about that. Heck, they are so hostile to Trump they may even borrow some of those phantoms from the Democrats to use in the primaries against Trump.
Sad but 100% true.
Actually, not even close to true. The phantom voter ballots were necesary to “backfill” for the use of the Dominion algorythm used in 5 States, to “give” Biden a 10,000 vote “margin” (enough to avoid a recount) after they didn’t win in Texas.
They can not use the Dominion algorythm any more, and the proof of that is they did NOT use it in 2022 midterms, not even in must steal Msracopa County.
We KNOW exactly how they stole MC, and the algorythm had NOTHING to do with it.
9 States have witdrawn from the ERIC system, including TEXAS and more may before the election. The system was crucial in 2020, its how they knew they weren’t going to succeed in Texas.
2020 was a “one off” where they had to use EVERY method they could, including using Covid as an excuse to change or ignore election laws, the Dominion system, the ERIC system, the ALICE system, voter suppression AND massive, centralised ballot envelope stuffing operations.
They will NOT be able to do many of those things in 2024, and to say 2024 will be “just like 2020, then 2020 must have been just like 2016,..except if coarse it WASN’T.
To make confident assertions, as if they are self-evident truths, therefore not needing any reciepts, is easy.
Its what my dear old Dad called “talking out yer ass”.
It is a rhetoricall device, like starting by saying “Clearly,…intended to intimidate any who would disagree….
BRING some reciepts, to back up your otherwise meaningless assertion.
This is the 100%!
And the silence is deafening, of anyone offering any evidence to the contrary,…buehler?,…ANYONE?
And even with all the mail in ballot harvesting and the algorithm, they still had to pause counting in 5 states to truck in additional ballots to put Brandon in the lead.
They had to resort to old fashioned in your face ballot box stuffing.
THAT was the “backfilling” they had to do, ‘in support of’ using the algorythm.
It gets complicated and technical, and makes for long comments, hence its easier just to point out they CAN NOT do it, in 2024, anf the fact they didn’t do it in 2022, is the proof.
What they are left with is various forms of two, basic ways that have been used forever.
As you say, old fashioned ballot stuffing, which the phantom voters and mail in ballots are used for, along with lax signature verification.
The other is VOTER SUPPRESSION; ANY method that prevents their oppositions ballots (thats US!) from being counted.
WE made that very easy for them to do, in Maracopa county by being very vocal that WE, MAGA,were going to vote “the way your SUPPOSED to, In Person, ON election day!”
Hence they insured the machines in KL districts would malfunction, ON ELECTION DAY.
IF we educate OUR voters, to CHANGE the WAY they vote, to either vote early in person or request a mailed out ballot, and USE it, it makes it much harder to suppress our votes.
It is estimated (and its a pretty accurate estimate) that around 48,000 KL voters in Maracopa county got ‘turned away’ on election day, and Hobbs supposed margin of victory was only 17,000.
That WAS an extreme voter suppression tactic, and it also was a “one off” that they can’t use, again.
They WILL try to cheat, but WE have ways of avoiding their suppression tactics, and thwarting or even countering their ballot stuffing operations.
A MAJOR voter suppression tactic is having influencers in comments sections posting comments along the lines of “no pointbin voting in 2024; they will just steal it, again!”
Obviously aimed SPECIFICALLY and exclusively at MAGA, intended to persuade us not to vote, by triggering emotions of anger, despondency so our critical thinking is muted.
They give no facts or logical arguments to support their assertion, because,…IT MAKES NO SENSE.
WHAT is the point in NOT voting?
Other variations are “you can’t vote your way out of tyranny”; if we actually lived in a tyranny, you would not be reading this right now, and WE would not own any guns.
Its psy-ops, to suppress our votes. Don’t fall for it.
I never tire of your analysis Dutch. Keep educating us. There are new readers here everyday.
Nikki’s long-held and annoying habit is to double talk every issue, every question. She, no doubt, thinks that’s clever.
Tricky Nikki needs to give voters an actual reason to vote for her (the Asian vote might not be the juggernaut she expects).
But learning new tricks is tough for old dogs (I just made that up..)
Old female dogs,…yes I “went there”.
Vivek may cut into the Indian vote she is expecting.
Ah, Vivisectionist, yes.
Perhaps they can split the baby?
After the Trump-Howdy Modi event in Houston to 60,000 mostly Indian Americans, I don’t think anyone puts a big dent in that base of voters.
I watched it live and doing so I came to appreciate India the nation and her people.
They want economic freedom and peace on earth and a good future for their children. Pretty universal themes we all share.
Here is a teaser of that monumental event:
The DeSantis lovers, aka NeverTrumpers, over at RedState are having fits now over the lackluster DeSantis campaign. They made their bed with this guy and the GOPe, so cry me a river now.
christie + gas station sushi = will hurl
Better hope you do, as “better out than in” and you MIGHT survive if you hurl it quick enough.
You win. Absolute best comment.
“Candidate I Don’t Know (4%) is now ahead of Mike Pence, Vivek Ramaswamy, Chris Christie and Asa Hutchinson.”
Where does Montgomery Brewster fall on this list, campaigning as “None of the Above”?
Since SC is an open primary, I wonder if the DeSantis campaign will reach out to Democrats to vote for him. The Dems won’t have much of a primary, so they could be willing to vote for DeSantis just to spite Trump. Dems voted for Liz Cheney, but there weren’t enough to help her.
Early polls to see who RdS’ supporters were indicated that about 20% would actually vote for Biden if he was on the ticket, meaning they were Democrats.
So they are already playing footsies with crossovers, and no doubt your query is indeed reality, they will do shenanigans out their ying yangs to try and resuscitate their campaign using the very people RdS pretends to rail against.
Don’t the Dems have their own problems with RFK Jr?
See, that’s why I think they’ll be precluded from any shenanigans. Democrats have a populist of their own trying to capture the nomination, and I don’t think they’ll be able to screw both RFK Jr AND Trump in the same go
SC doesn’t even like their senator!
SC has some really terrible Republicans.
I live in the “reddest” state, and ALL the administrators & representatives (except 1) are part of the RNC Club. My R AG donated to Biden.
Texas is worse. I think most red states are horribly compromised & their constituents don’t like those governors or senators either.
Sadly, every state has terrible Republicans somewhere lurking around leadership.
Either of them.
Ron is currently sleeping on the couch.
This is who he is. Watch to see the deranged look at the end. Very unsettling. Maybe he’s on drugs. Cause that is the look of a sociopath.
He’s high as a kite. Is he friends with Kamala Harris?
I was thinking meth the whole time watching.
Sporting his purple tie-making Steve Schwarzman proud.
Silence of the lambs look.
Will CTH consider promoting Black Knight to enter the race for ‘first loser?’
I swear I think I can beat ‘I don’t know’ and ‘Gas Station Sushi’ as an anonymous masked candidate.
My platform will be:
Be as nasty as I can be to all candidates except Trump;
Call them out on all their BS and connections;
To wit:
Address Meatball as Governor Meatball;
Address Slicky Nikki as Your Grifting Lying POSness;
Address Tim Scott as Your Most Ungrateful Traitorness;
And ask Vivek to explain in detail how he obtained a Soros scholarship while coming from a wealthy family and explain his miraculous financial successes.
As to the rest of them, I promise to give them my middle finger salute 🫡!
I further promise not to beat the hell out of any of them as long as they don’t touch me or try to remove my mask or speak ill of MAGA; will completely endorse Trump and MAGA and promise to refer anyone and eveyone who votes for me to turn their allegiance to Trump.
Thank you for your consideration of my support ahead of time!
BK, You know you got my vote, lol.
I’m in.
If you carry and occasionally brandish a rapier to match your wit, I’ll back you to the hilt!
Consider it done!
I may need to borrow one of those triangular 18th century Musketeer hats for proper decorum.
And I’ll even use the tip to lightly carve RINO on Ms Lindsey’s derrière should he show up as a parting gesture.
You have my vote now! LOL
Better yet, Just mark him with a “T”.
LOL
Full support here!
Just be careful of that chap called Arthur on his way to the Holy Grail. 🙂
I guess the Ron DeSantis campaign isn’t as slick as Obama, 2008, with their “Obama girl” video
Yeah, that chick ain’t been born could do that for RdS.
Keep waiting for DeSanctimonious to hit single digits!
What are populist issues?
Popular ones.
7% !
What the people care about, what Trump promises and over delivers, what the Derps hate.
Main Street over Wall Street.
Common Sense.
Representing “the people” or “the common man” against elites or special interests.
“His kind…” is a Big Club…AND I’M IN IT!😁
My brother owns property in SC and told me he saw loads of Trump signs when he was there ten days ago with other investors.
Lots of us without signs who will be voting for him too!
Amen and Amen!
Yes. I live in SC and our county is solid Trump in terms of Republican voters. We also took over the chair and executive committee of our county party this past re-org.
I , at this juncture, am not worried about SC for Trump from what I see and hear.
ron deshanty isn’t welcome in utah…. his handlers already put “lipstick on the pig” it’s game over
After putting carpetbagger Mitt in the Senate, those Utah Republican Party officials SHOULD have died of shame.
Dutch,
Agree on all fronts… riverton, ut mayor trent staggs will handily unseat “hotdog man” mittens for his senate seat in 2024.
Iconic -this could be the poster that gets him ahead of candidate “I don’t know”
make Trump afraid to fight.
Is he going for the Amphibean vote ??
Whales are mammals.
Ignore FOX News. Disregard all polls. Protect your own position and focus on your own area of operations.
Save the money. Drop out now. Why do this to yourself and your donors? Maybe people will forget your humiliation and you’ll have a chance come 2028. Doubtful but maybe.
When you drop below Nimrata Randhawa it’s really bad.
There’s a tiara at stake.
Think of this; IIRC, we were told RDS had $200 million in his campaign war chest, and now he is BROKE, and soblaying off campaign workers, and begging thevmormons fir table scraps.
WHAT exactly did he blow through $200 million ON?
Nasty influencers and lunch and cocktail selfies.
The gravy train of Republican consultants. 200 million of one guy’s is $200 million of other guy’s income.
He can’t legally spend a lot of that money in the primary, because there is a $3300 max limit per donor.
Sounds a helluva lot like a Ukraine money-laundering op
But then Mrs. D won’t be able to do any more of her famous Jackie O impersonations.
At 48%, President Donald Trump is 16 points higher in the polls than he was when he won the South Carolina primary in 2016.
Nothing that UniParty voting machines and mail-in ballots can’t handle, and they won’t care if you don’t believe the “selection” results.
Ah, ah ah,…not true.
See my challenge above, and feel free to jump in if you have any FACTS to back up your assertion.
Despite SC passing an election integrity bill in 2022, there are still grassroots organizations in SC who are deeply concerned about continuing election vulnerabilities in SC, including the voting machines and mail-in ballots.
https://www.scsafeelections.org/. They are not the only organization in SC fighting for election integrity, but a key one. This organization has information on their website discussing their concerns about the overall SC election system as it exists today, which could impact the SC GOP primary and general election in 2024.
So we’re back to where we started. There are continuing serious vulnerabilities in SC’s voting machines and mail-in ballots. Those who masterminded the 2020 election steal exploited then-existing vulnerabilities in unprecedented ways, and will do so again in 2024 to try to keep Trump out of office.
Feel free to post facts specific to SC that support your gospel-like assertions.
I am disappointed that candidate Gas Station Sushi is behind candidate “That’s Not My Concern.”
So, Will Hurd has jumped in?
He is a moderate Republican and gladly admits that his job prior to his time in congress was in the CIA.
If he is able to get some financial backing and an organization going, he might surprise us with how well he could do against those better known people in the low rankings. Apparently he is a good campaigner who won his district by getting out and trying to press the flesh of every registered voter in his geographically enormous district.
His father is from here. He has extended family members here who are registered to vote. I’ll have to remember to check to see how many of them clutch their chests and vote in the upcoming Republican primary.
Yeah, nothing sus about the Derp State running one of their own . . .
No CIA
Holy Jeb Bush Batman!!!
Kek!
Get the fork out cuz Rino Ronnie is well done.
Trump is the incumbent and he is running unopposed.
The indictments are having the opposite of the intended effect.
The longer the Democrats wait to replace Biden, the harder it gets to do so.
I’m not sure they want to replace Biden. According to Baris, as awful as Biden is, he’s the one who polls the best against Donald Trump. Kamala, Hillary, Newsom, Buttgieg, Michael, they all poll terribly. Biden polls terribly but he’s got a slight incumbent advantage
TheDuran’s program today talked about the targeting of Donald Trump and the protection of Biden. Toward the end of the video, Alex Mercouris says something to the effect that the US is in a most dangerous situation in which the survival of the Republic and Constitution is at stake. The urgency of their warning struck me especially since they are not based in the US.
That is why when posters praise Vivek Ramaswamy or RFK, Jr. or other candidates, I realize they do not understand the precipitous urgency, the dire emergency in the history of right now. We are wasting away our best efforts while weighing the possibilities of unknown candidates who say 3 or 4 things we like, but have unknowns in areas of profound concern.
The only three issues in this election that are important are economic policy, foreign policy, and the rule of law under the Constitution as written. Every other concern or platform or singleton issue is superfluous.
We have been fooled for too many years into thinking – oh this candidate or that one will respond to OUR needs – only to find another UniParty grifter who throws away more and more of our heritage and our freedom and our treasure. It’s time to wake up and realize that we can’t get distracted from the urgency of our situation. We have a candidate who stands for what will benefit our country, Donald J. Trump and only Donald J. Trump. We are blessed by his candidacy and may God bless us all.
The posters that praise Vivek or RFK, are the same as those praising RDS, before Sundance exposed RDS, and provided the reciepts.
Mostly “influencers” this site has been under barrage from them since I have been here, and probably long before.
Klause Schwab said he has hired 50,000 to target the U.S. for the 2024 election.
No doubt $0r0$ has a bunch on his payroll, and the campaigns as well.
Used to call them “Rol-cons” as it “roll playing as Conservatives” and they have certain “tells” you can recognise,..for awhile it was “I just LOVE PDJT,…BUT.”
Often they work in pairs, in tandem (or one person with two screen names); the one will postvthe comment, with the other right below agreeing.
They try various forms of manipulation, from discouragement to hopium.
When asked tobprivide facts ir logical arguments to support their assertions, they usually disappear, or get into trolling type arguments.
Whether it be bots on the site here, or internet personas on the payroll, or slick little fast talking candidates, the tell on who’s bought and paid for, and who is not, is what are we going to do about our elections? Because we’re not fixing anything until we fix that. And that’s why the GOPe can’t sell a single candidate. And there may be some people who have a little exposure there.
How dumb are you to get on the Kennedy train? Dumb enough to drown.
Amen, Belle.
I watched this a bit ago, these are insightful sober minded men that I have yet to disagree with on anything of note.
This is indeed an election for the survival of America, of the Constitution, this is for all the marbles, and I echo your concern about those tossing out other names as if this wasn’t about the the very salvation or expiration of our nation.
All the marbles!
I would love to see some video of behind closed doors w/these people in their stompy pants.
Larry Elder should be polling higher: Excellent communicator, long record of conservative advocacy and no deep state ties, fully insulated against Racist attacks. He is getting zero exposure. Would be a great VP pick.
Larry Elder is a stolen election denier: Donald Trump Will Lose to Biden Again for One Main Reason, Larry Elder Says:
“Here’s the problem; I believe there are so many swing voters in swing states who would not vote for the man if he walked on water. In fact, they would accuse him of not being able to swim. I have no idea what to do about Trump derangement syndrome, maybe someday somebody will develop a vaccine.”
Elder urged Republican primary voters to ask themselves: “Have you lost friends because of Donald Trump? Are you walking on eggshells at work because of Donald Trump? Do you have strained relationships with your family and relatives because of Donald Trump?”
He added: “If the answer is yes, Houston we’ve got a problem, and that problem is called electability. I think at some point in this long process, Republican voters are going to realize in order to win in November 2024 they’re going to have to unite behind a candidate whose last name is other than Trump, but for whom a sufficient number of swing voters and swing states will vote so we can win in November 2024, and I’m making the case that I’m that person.”
HARD PASS
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-larry-elder-1809808
Thanks, Hope, this guy is plain silly.
And I used to like and trust Larry Elder.😞
I know the feeling.
Human Nature.
“Have you lost friends because of Donald Trump? Are you walking on eggshells at work because of Donald Trump? Do you have strained relationships with your family and relatives because of Donald Trump?”
This is just one phase / aspect of human nature.
What comes after?
President Trump understands human nature. 😉
He’s lived in California too long!
Is Larry Elder running for president, or is he distancing himself from Trump so that he can take another run for governor in California?
The tactic used against him last time was to label him as Trumpian.
He is running for president. He announced in April.
Indeed, but he is not going to win the nomination for president.
However, being in the race against Trump should help build his creds as a republican who would not be a surrogate for Trump if he were to win a statewide office in California. Being framed as a “white supremacist” and “tool for Trump” sank him when he ran against Newsom. The way to change that fatal perception is to run against Trump.
IMO, Larry Elder’s goal may be a statewide office in California, not the presidency.
He’s not going to win statewide office in California and, let’s be real, if the fact that he’s black didn’t stop the left from smearing him as a white supremacist, the simple fact of his running against Trump won’t stop them from calling him a Trump surrogate, either.
In my opinion Elder’s goal might be to put himself up for the Vice Presidency. Because he knows he’s got no chance of winning the Presidency
PDJT’s VP can be no one other than Kari Lake at this point.
And his cabinet could do worse than having the entire slate of MAGA Arizonans cheated out of their obvious election wins- that is, those who FOUGHT hard against that cheat.
Abe H in particular could be PDJT’s AG (though I still would be happy with Rudy, of course).
Kari Lake is patriotic, MAGA, tough, and beautiful. She speaks well and is good on her feet to respond to reporters. I am concerned because she has no business experience, foreign policy experience, no experience in the economy, no law background, no political experience in government, no “in” with donors, little national exposure.
If she were a candidate for president, would you vote for her by herself, considering her qualifications? I want President Trump to choose as vice president someone who could be a stand alone president in 2028 and 2032. This is something to think about.
Trump/Lake 2024…t-shirts are selling on eBay.
A term as Vice President will give her all the experience she needs to be President.
Making Apprentices Great Again!!
This
DeSantis is selling out to the Mormons! Talk about desperate times. Just drop out already Ron!
This information should be imperative.
https://captainconvey.com/battleofconsequence.html
DeSaster admits it has spent too much money. It takes a lot of expensive lipstick to paint a sow’s ear.
The Republican corporation does not care about polls. They do not care about voters or issues or anything we quaintly associate with elections. What they care about is money and they are not going to let anyone or anything interfere with their revenue stream.
After the final two indictments fall on Trump,—the January 6 indictment in Washington DC, on which any jury pool will be 98% Democrat and the judges pool are 75% Marxist filth, And the Georgia indictment for his telephone call saying that Georgia should find some more votes— The RNC and the Republican governors Association will make certain that Trump’s name is not on the ballot in enough states to deny him the nomination.. They know they’re throwing the general election, and that Biden, or anyone the Democrats choose will automatically win in November, but they don’t care. Republicans in Georgia and Arizona made certain Trump did not sin in 2020. The RNC would rather lose the next million elections, into the ceaseless ages of eternity, than allow Trump back in the White House. Their corruption is absolute.
The Lawfare Game Plan to convert Georgia, just like Colorado is working beautifully
That must be why their GOP just went MAGA. 🤷🏻♀️
https://www.georgiarecord.com/elections/2023/06/10/maga-gains-in-gop-leadership-at-ga-convention/
Beautiful retort. Add in Favorito’s legal victory is helping too.
Guess I was referring to Kemp, Raffensberger, and their cronies.
The nazi republican governors need to be rounded up and waterboarded.
All the R governors are corrupt. They all were complicit as their R establishments stole precincts from their grassroots.
They surely are. Why we needed Kari Lake!
There’s nothing those two organizations can do legally to keep Trump off the ballot. They could, theoretically, refuse to endorse him as their candidate, even if he wins all the primary contests, and nominate their own candidate. But this would DESTROY them as a party, and there’ll be no more grift for any of them.
Better to just let Trump have the nomination and sabotage him, as they did in 2020 and tried to do in 2016
If this trend continues, the Uniparty is going to have to bring in fake ballots by rail. The vans they used last time won’t be big enough.
Who will the RNC Big Club now say has “the math and the path”? It’s pretty obvious even to the novice observer that DeSantis does not.
While national polls showing a Trump preference over Biden are always interesting, it’s the electoral count that matters.
Converting “lost states” will be key. But many of the important ones were stolen.
Given that, it would be interesting to see what their strategy is to get to 270.
Follow Ken Cuccinelli & the rest of the Ted Cruz “steal-the-delegates” klan.
No one in middle America gives Nikki Haley a 2nd thought. 14% in her own state?
And that is probably inflated to influence voters there before the primary.