Acceptance is the first step.
- If we accept or acknowledge the RNC and DNC are private corporations, existing like all other corporations to the fulfilment of their for-profit charter, to make money; and
- If we accept or acknowledge their business model is structured around people and businesses giving them money; and
- If we accept or acknowledge that in the process of raising money their interests may or may not align with the goal of those contributing to the business; and
- If we accept the history that Mitch McConnell and the RNC worked purposefully to remove the influence of the Tea Party; then
- This factually accurate statement from Steve Deace takes on a new meaning:
- (LINK)
[…] “the GOP (club) would rather lose to Democrats than lose control of the [club] to it’s base.” Electability boils down to the right kind of approved candidate.
That is an accurate context for this midterm election cycle. Factually, the income stream for the RNC improves if they have the ability to campaign against the opposition club. The larger the outrage, the more substantial the fundraising. The corporation makes more money in defeat, or in the minority, than it does when it wins or holds majorities.
As a result, there is a disconnect between the financial incentive of the corporation and the expressed intent of the corporation. When the RNC club wins, they have a more difficult time raising money, because people who previously contributed are now looking for results.
Combine that business model reality, with the accurate statement from Steve Deace about the club perspective of MAGA, and you begin to see the weird dynamic that surfaced in Georgia in the first week of January 2021. Did the club want to win the two senate races? Or was the club content to let deflated Trump voters see a lackluster club response to the 2020 election issues in Georgia, a frustration which led to wins by the opposition?
The same dynamic is established now. Senator Mitch McConnell and the GOP club corporate donors are not happy with the unapproved candidates winning many of the 2022 primary contests. They are not hiding their disdain, nor are they hiding their shift in midterm expectations as a result of their desire to see the unapproved republican candidates defeated.
However, there is a more looming scenario that we have been discussing.
As we have seen from their non-response to the FBI raid on Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, the GOP club would not be disappointed to see the DOJ take down Donald Trump prior to the midterm elections.
In a national version of the Georgia result, there would likely be widespread voter anger and frustration, if the DOJ indict President Trump and the republican leadership pull the Ron DeSantis routine and stay hidden and silent.
The GOP gets rid of the issue of Donald Trump, and a 25% drop in MAGA voter turnout – the result of anger and disenfranchisement – leads to overwhelming victories for Democrats in the midterms. The result, both Donald Trump and MAGA are essentially removed from the RNC/GOP structure. Nothing would make that group happier than to return to the status quo of controlled and approved party candidates. [Insert Ron DeSantis here]
In the biggest of big pictures, the important issues for the club to control surround trade, finance and economic policy. There are trillions at stake. The multinationals and Wall Street in general would both benefit from the elimination of a political movement based on America-First national economic policy (ie. Main Street USA).
The common bond amid all of the diversity within the Trump coalition is the working-class economic connection. No other republican politician of significance has any national economic outlook unfavorable to the multinational corporations who finance the club priority. The only economic nationalist in the republican party is Donald Trump. Remove him and the America-First policy is removed with him.
Let us also not be naïve or intellectually dishonest with each other. The decision on whether to indict or not indict Donald Trump is going to be made by Democrats and Republicans alike. Personally, I worry that decision has already been made, sometime around early June when the DOJ first inspected the documents at Mar-a-Lago, as part of a larger collaborative midterm strategy, noted above.
The picture would essentially be, have the DOJ remove Donald Trump; have the republican leadership do nothing except express faux outrage at the outcome; and then watch as a blue wave midterm election benefits both Democrat and Republican clubs.
Democrats advance their radical agenda, republicans gnash their teeth and fundraise off the radical agenda, and the 2024 presidential candidates pull out the fainting couches, gasp in horror, bewilderment and outrage over the events, while reminding the republican base that supporting law enforcement, and following the constitution, means sitting quietly and voting harder…
I just read this on the Conservative Brief:
“They had tried to get [Florida Gov. Ron] DeSantis and others into the race, but they see that they’re not going to get in because Trump has a lock on the nomination,” he said. “So what they’re trying to do is to knock him off the ballot through the courts. And the vehicle they’ve chosen is to indict him for sedition,”
https://conservativebrief.com/dems-5-65780/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=DJD
Yes that has always been pretty obvious to me. I think it will work in some states but I think before they get that far, the public rage will be incredibly powerful.
I would advise them not to try it.
I agree with you. I think a President Trump indictment will inspire a backlash like they’ve never seen. I don’t want to ever vote Republican again – holding my nose as I do it. I want an Independent America First party with Trump at the helm, for now.
I don’t think the Republicans understand just how much they are despised ever since the election was stolen on their watch. The only reason we agree to still vote Republican is because Trump is using the Republican party as a vehicle. At least, that’s the only reason on God’s green earth I’ll vote Republican again.
The Republicans stink to high heavens and are worse than the Democrats because their of their hypocrisy.
Every bit of the corrupt Big Club garbage is totally blind in their quest for money & power. Nothing about anything they do represents the voting public. They have destroyed the nation without ever feeling the consequences of their actions
Roosterhead, aka ‘He of the Perpetual Purple Tie’, is a traitor, Fox is controlled opposition, Rove is one of their ‘parrots in an echo chamber’, and Sundance is doing his best to try to WAKE US UP. This is a Psyop, people. You are being manipulated.
We all KNOW what we need to do. Support those who are fighting with us like PDJT & True the Vote.
There may be little else we can do but, by golly, we can OVERWHELM THEM WITH OUR VOTES to take back Congress. The alternative “wolf” should not be fed. Never. 👍❤️🇺🇸
Faux and Paul Ryan.
What if it doesn’t work? What is your back-up plan? Never?
Ridiculous! Stupid even.
How do you think we got out from underneath the king?
We have not yet begun to fight — the sooner the deep state “gets the message” the better.
Eventually, we all wake up to the facts: your “voting” is guaranteed by YOUR wolfishness and your pack of wolves.
Nothing more: NOTHING LESS.
People are free to come up with their own backup plan, and wise not to share it here.
First – don’t EVER call another Patriot ridiculous and stupid because you disagree. That is what the left does. They call people with whom they disagree names and discredit their ideas. You sound, with your shrouded calls to violence, a lot like a leftie.
I am not suggesting it will work. I am suggesting that it is one helluva lot better than falling for this BS that all is already lost so we just sit on our butts, wringing our hands, clutching our pearls, and doing nothing. It was Gregg Phillips himself who suggests that overwhelming “them” by voting is a strategy. If they are overwhelmed it is much harder for them to cheat.
Your back-up plan calls for exactly the action they want us to take. Why do you think they keep goading us, e.g. the raid and pillage of Mar-A-Lago? I pray every day, multiple times, that your plan never becomes necessary.
How many J6 political prisoners must be stuffed in a gulag for PDJT before we come to the conclusion that “vote all you want, the flight plan never changes”?
Just a rhetorical question.
But, do remember, no country ever fell into globalist rule and voted itself free.
You make a point and you may well be right. If you are, the country is gone and has been since the endgame coup in the early morning hours of November 4, 2020.
The coup began when we lost the midterms in 2018. That gave the GOPe what they needed to get us to where we are now.
If you are right, Sundance and all the rest of us Patriots are just pissing into the wind. Maybe we are. That being the case, we ALL face the gulag.
Please list all of the instances when full tyranical regimes have been successfuly overthrown by an armed rebellion.
The Chech revolt of 1956, against Soviet domination?
Not so much, no.
How about similar uprisings in Hungary and other Warsaw pact countries during the 70+ years of the USSR?
NO, not at all.
It was UNITY of the population, without guns or violence, which caused the Soviets to withdraw from the Baltic States, even before withdrawing from Afganistan, and SOLIDARITY, (another word for UNITY) which cause them to withdraw from Poland, and led to the collapse of that brutal totalitarian and tyrannical regime.
As for Globalists, this is a new iteration of conmunism, and while it has different packaging and branding, underneath it is the same crappy product, and the same fundamentals apply.
Unity is its weakness, it has no defence against the population, IN UNITY, withdrawing consent.
An armed, violent responce by a small percentage of the population however, they ARE fully prepared for. It plays right into their hands.
“Gentlemen! It’s madness to think we can defeat the most powerful army in the world! And with her navy, England will blockade our colonies and cause want of everything on which we depend.
Far better to pay her silly taxes and remain safe than be imprisoned and executed as a traitor for a few trifling freedoms.”
– The men whom history has forgotten
Too bad they lost Russia in the process.
I would agree with tbag14, and remind all that personal attacks, that is insulting another poster, name calling are innappropriate, and grounds for getting the boot.
I don’t know the poster, or their motive for posting their comments, none of us do.
Maybe they ARE a ‘leftie’, or maybe they have just been succesfully manipulated BY a lefty.
What I do feel confident saying, is that if you look UNEMOTIONALLY at any comment, and ask “What coarse of action is this post advocating?” you can see MANY that advocate no action; no voting, no organising, etc. Most often their argument is “they stole 2020, they will just steal it, again.”
As a key strategy to overcome the Steal is swamp the vote, to break the algorythm, and voter suppression IS a key tactic of the enemy, such comments, regardless the intent of the poster, ARE “giving aid and comfort to the enemy”.
As for veiled or not so veiled suggestions that “the answer” is violence,..
First and foremost anyone so inclined wouldn’t be posting here, …Post comments on the site which is the #1 target of the enemy, KNOWING that any security protecols Sundance has put in place only apply to his site and infrastructure, our comments are carried TO that infrastructure, and THEY vacuum up EVERYTHING, WOW, what a great idea for a nutjob intending violence.
Point being, such posts as “you can not vote your way out of tyranny” clearly implying violence is the answer, “the tree of liberty is watered with the blood of tyrants andt patriots” quote, etc. are patently nonsensical posts, to be coming from any but a provocatuer, or someone who has been deluded by such postings and is repeating the illogical message.
“Wait, don’t vote, an armed responce is the answer and its coming!” is a rediculous reason-less illogical coarse of non-action.
Obviously, PDJT and Sundance have not taken the view that “don’t bother to vote, cause its no use”, and neither should we.
“AND HOW WE BURNED IN THE CAMPS LATER….”
So, McConnell and the Decepticons fear losing control over the party to the base. That just might be happening already. And it’s not like the Democrat-Socialists don’t fear a loss of control either. But in their case, they’re continuing to bleed traditional supporters, leaving them only a core of die-hard leftists and megadonors. Both national organizations fear irrelevance. Their fears can become reality.
It’s been written on this site particularly that the best way to defeat the GOPe AND the Dem-Socs is taking populist control at the local and state level. Get involved in the precinct program and build grassroots support one neighborhood at a time. I know this program works. That’s a lot of sand in the gears. Cutting off financial support to the RNC, DNC and the senate and house re-election committees is another way to keep it local. Donate directly to candidates you support and your local GOP committee once the makeup of that committee shifts for the better.
Both national political organizations fear irrelevance. Their fears can become reality. Strong states and a limited federal government are the end game folks. Just like it was originally intended.
It took 100+ years to get here it will take time to correct.
The good news they don’t have the people. The consent of the governed has been revoked and with this, the ground up change is vital.
This isolates the club members and diminishes their influence.
People need to bleed the rnc and dnc dry. DO NOT send send money to them!
The ONLY money ever sent was directly to President Trump!
I’m sad to admit my wife and I we’re constant donors to the RNC…no more.
Better late than never.
BEST thing I have done is I received an RNC envelope that is SELF-ADDRESSED … I make a sentence and then cut the sentence up and put into said envelope!!!!!!!!
Also, BE VERY AWARE of ANY Congcritter you have written too and HAS NOT ANSWERED YOUR EMAIL OR LETTER!!!
NOTE: If I send a letter, “SIGNATURE REQUIRED UPON RECEIPT”!!!!!!
We have a gope rep here in Florida and has done NOTHING…HE IS ABOUT TO BE SHOWN THE DOOR!!!!!
Just a though…
The process of “change” has 3 modes: Slow normal, really slow, and blitz fast. Because we see change and “growth” as slow process, we forget that destruction and subsequent creation CAN BE sudden and very rapid given “correct conditions.
Not buying “it will take time to correct”… compared to the hundred years evolution the revolution is “quick” — when it comes.
I agree. The correction will move much faster and I believe it is.
A great lesson for me, with all the resistance that our Great American President Donald J Trump has faced, it blew me away how much he got done in four years, other than the swamp gas (enemy MSM) he made it look easy. He exposed how corrupt and inept the swamp rats really are.
My point, we had a crime committed against us on 11/03/20 a set back and we must regroup and fight on. I believe that its happening, people are waking up, at an alarming rate, and the swamp rats know it. There are a lot of swamp rats both state & federal, my point, it will take a minute to round them up and root them out.
I’m optimistic. We’ll see.
My Mom and I thought it was quite telling that there was NOTHING either above the fold or below the fold of the WSJ the morning after Liz Cheney’s defeat in the primary.
I think you are correct. It IS happening already.
They are still out of touch with the people . If Trump were gone We’d still be here fighting against their agenda.
In Wisconsin we are mounting a “write in”campaign for Adam Steen. Since Voss won the primary by less than 300 “votes”.
We don’t need Trump to know who to support.
If they did get rid of him it would only light a fire under us. We are not as stupid as they want to believe we are. It will backfire on them like all their other disconnected ideas.
Without reviewing the long list, virtually EVERY major campaign of the enemy, to destroy “Trump!” and us, has yielded the enemy, at best short term ‘gains’ (primarily in terms of p.r.) and long term losses.
One only has to look at the swelling of our movement, and PDJT’s support.
SOMETIMES, in a war, you make a “sacrifice” play; the invasion in Normandy cost the allies 10,000 lives in 24 hrs.
BUT, it established and held a “beachead” which enabled the invasion of europe, march across europe, and defeat if the enemy.
EVERY initiative of the enemy has been a sacrifice play, short term gain, long term loss.
These are sacrifice moves they are making because they are forced to, and not the strategic moves of a side that is “winning”; they are acts of desperation, dictated to them to try, unsuccessfuly to blunt the forces of their enemy.
WE are “dominating the battlefield” and their desperation is palpable.
I see your point thank you.
My dad survived Normandy.
Wish I’d understood at the time what that event had accomplished.
The BOSS,
Thank you, couldn’t havr said it better!
Hey Dutchman. YOU have said some great things as well. I keep your August 1 post re how to be an insurgent handy for those who need a lesson in subtlety. If you’re a drinking man, I’ll buy you a drink one day. If not, hopefully a steak dinner will work.
I love it!!!
It’s great to see an analysis of forces at play within our own party but odd to see so much attention given to Fox Darlings (whose owners gave millions to the Biden Campaign and whom few watch), and to Karl Rove (who hasn’t been right about anything in decades), and Trey Gowdy (who has no conservative bonifieds with the base). I guess we’ll soon see Peggy Noonan and the Lincoln Project as fodder in this circular firing squad. We get it. GOPe is bad
To what end? When will the focus be where it’s needed: Getting MAGA candidates elected to office in the Midterms and ripping the GOPe out of their entrenched positions?
This is hardly the time to open a front against the only American Governor who ran on MAGA and delivered it to their citizens while right in the middle of the primaries.
WRONG !
We Floridians have leverage at the moment.
It is time to threaten this entitled POISON IVY LEAGUE CRETIN if he wants to retain his royal governorship.
I don’t know where you reside but, every Floridian I speak with is PO’d. They’ve got DeSantis’ number.
In fact, every one I’ve spoken with pointed out that Ron would never be governor if not for Trump.
We? I am a 30 year Floridian and your comments do not ring true here in the southwest part of the state AT ALL !
To suggest Floridians ‘threaten’ DeSantis is bizarre. Are you a democrat sowing division? A denizen of Charlie Crist maybe? Sure sounds so.
Specifically how do you wish to threaten him?
What do you wish to accomplish and what remedies do you suggest if he doesn’t do what nebulous demand you make of him? Have you thought this through or is simply venting anger the objective?
JRD that’s the best thing i’ve heard in a long while. Recovery from battered voter syndrome is not unlike a recovering alcoholic in that the 1st step is admitting you have a problem. Somewhere along the recovery path is affirming your expectations and setting boundaries. Good to see the battered voters of Florida stand their ground and demand Ron meet their expectations or get voted out. The Office serves the People not the Club is best mantra.
We’ve heard that line before….
Sarah Palin column 19 Dec 2015
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/12/19/exclusive-sarah-palin-congressional-gop-are-abusers-and-were-their-battered-wife/
“They did it again. But like a battered wife, we keep going back because every four years they bring us flowers, beg our forgiveness, and swear they’ll never hit us again. The GOP establishment in Congress is our abuser. We can’t hide the black eyes any more. The whole neighborhood knows
Thankfully, not everyone with an “R” after their name is happy with the corrupt status quo. And there are a lot more good guys in Congress now thanks to the Tea Party.
We’re going to make our abusers leave. We’re not going to let them hit us again. It’s time to kick our abusers out of the House, change the locks, and keep a loaded shotgun next to the bed.”
Sure. Vote DeSantis out in November. He’s a living, breathing devil, FER SHUR.
And you condemn native Floridians like me to living hell under Nikki or Charlie.
I have seen a consistent pattern here that denigrates RDS, blasts him, drags him, and does everything but equate him with the worst devil in Hell.
Do any of you EVER stop to think that you are engaging in voter suppression with the general just around the corner? So many are parrots or sheep and will mouth whatever the “flavor of the day” soundbite is. If they are in Florida, they will not vote for DeSantis now that you all dirtied him up and their sheep and parrot family and friends will blaaaahhhhther on to their family and friends that “RDS is baaaaaaad. RDS is Saaaaatahn.”
And Florida will go purple with a D Governor and one D senator, the execrable Val Demings. We very nearly did go purple last gubernatorial election. Or did you all forget that drug addict closeted homosexual D candidate that very nearly won? Andrew Gillum? Remember him? And, yes, PDJT pulled a rabbit out of the hat for that one. He was the one who won the governorship for DeSantis. DeSantis was NOT my choice, but I got behind him once he was the nominee, even though an outsider campaigned for him in a tone deaf mockery of Florida politics.
So, yeah. Thanks to all of you hyperventilating DeSantis and Rubio haters, my state will slide into purple, then blue.
But you can always pick up stakes and run off to the new flavor of the month MAGA governor-run state, right? Just like you did during COVID when you all flocked to Florida and sang DeSantis’ praises. But your praises and love for new state gov-gov will only last until that new governor does something you don’t like. Then you will drag, trash, and slander them before destroying your new state and then running off to yet another state. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
I hope your heads are facing front when they stop spinning.
I also hope that you can live with yourselves for what will happen to my Florida because of your vitriol.
Spot On !
It is good to read more of this kind of push-back on Sundance’s destructive efforts to the America First political movement. My whole family is from Orlando, two of my brothers were never politically active, but all of them voted for Trump and they all love DeSantis.
Plan to vote for Governor Desantis but my eyes are wide open. If they remove President Trump off of some state ballots and Desantis throws his hat in we will know he is a snake.
Snake? Pawn.
Alligator gar;
Please, direct us to ONE Comment, on ANY thread, here at CTH, in which a poster is suggesting “voting Desantis out in November”?
He is running unopposed in his primary. In November he is running against a Dem.
A MAGA candidate did NOT stand up to oppose him IN the primary, and by that challenge expose his true nature, and frankly I doubt the Florida State Republican party is experiencing the MAGA insurection we see in other States.
Commenters here, commenting that DeSantis is not MAGA, invariably say “let him stay Governor of Florida, thats fine. But, he is NOT MAGA, NOT the “future of the Republican party” and NOT the “heir apperent” of PDJT, not 2024 VP Candidate, NOT 2024 POTUS candidate, as the GOPe backed pr campaign is pushing for him to be.
So, the basic premise if your main argument is FALSE.
Well, step one is admitting you are powerless, and asking for the intervention of a HIGHER power.
Other than that,…spot on.
Desantis is NOT a “MAGA Governor”, and hasn’t done anything that wasn’t something ANY Conservative Governor wouldn’t do.
He has clearly been groomed to become a National politician, and to be the GOPe’s “Trump alternative, because PDJT is “too toxic”.
The effort to so groom him is so apperent, his failing crucial tests is so apperent, that it is REALLY hard to believe those posting comments defending him, HERE (?) are anything other than ,…intentional attempts to sew discord.
His failure to forcefully call out the 2020 election steal, in and of itself, exposes his true nature.
THAT has become our shiboleth, our single “friend or foe” test, and no more is needed.
I had reviewed his responces, on this question, and therefore detirmined his GOPe nature, before the MAL raid, and so was not surprised at his lame, muted responce to the raid occuring IN HIS FREAKIN STATE! and which exposed him to all.
Absurd!
Ron DeSantis Campaign Ad for Governor in 2018
100% Pure MAGA Trump !
My whole family is from Orlando. They love DeSantis. And they
all voted for Trump.
Any leverage we Floridians have is because of DeSantis. Been a Floridian since 1978 and actually like to have someone stand against the OBiden regime. 25+ months in politics is a lifetime. Destroy this native son and you get Turncoat Charlie and turn purple overnight. Folks I talk with like no CRT, sex grooming textbooks, mask mandates, vaccine mandates, special status for Disney. They do like support for our Vets, police and firefighters, freedom and low taxes.
No, we should not destroy DeSantis but we should open our eyes to what is playing out.
Destroy DeSantis is about all you guys are doing here.
Honestly, if you aren’t registered to vote in Florida, I would argue you really should keep your trap shut about DeSantis.
PDJT put him in office. If PDJT wants him out of office all he needed to do was to run somebody against RDS.
I agree only time will tell, let’s win the Governorship first and worry about 2024 later.
I wouldn’t worry Alligator, for those of us from the sunshine state we all know DeSantis and how he kept Florida free during the plandemic. It’s the influx due to our freedoms that concerns me. Tons of California and east coasters settling in Naples which has been red. Praying they don’t bring the lib politics with them and change our demographics. I don’t generalize typically, but from what I’m meeting seems to be the case. Very liberal and Charlie fans. Our general public prior to the transplants was a strong DeSantis country. He’s been great as Governor, way too soon for him to move center stage. Trump is the LION we need! SD is spot on in his analysis. I’m just hoping DeSantis doesn’t blow it with Trump.
“,..if you aren’t registered in Florida, I would argue ,…”
Only valid so long as DeSantis stays in Florida.
His recent ‘tour’ with Turning point action was billed as him “lending his support” to MAGA candidates in Az, NM, Ohio and Penn.
This under the rubric that he “has become a National political figure” and because he is not being challenged in his primary, and so since he doesn’t have to campaign for reelection in Florida (his Dem opponent apperently being seen as no threat) he can ‘afford’ to do this campaigning.
This was clearly an attempt to ‘test the water’, to National office.
Once the Candidate does that, such a “hands off, he’s ours” argument no longer has merit.
And by the way, they threw him or he jumped into the waters, and nearly drowned.
His stump speach, that would have sounded great in Florida, falls flat anywhere else.
Once again I just comment that many of the posters here
have not read the Sundance articles on the subject.
IMHO you are misreading Sundance as well as most of those Treepers who agree with him. No one that I’ve seen has stated that DeSantis should be voted out of the Florida Governor’s office; in fact quite the opposite. We ALL hope he wins re-election there. He has been great – maybe the best governor of that state for a long time.
Well, when I read some actual evidence of “what is playing out,” I might agree with you. But fevered conjecture is not evidence.
“BEAT the CHEAT ! Overwhelm them with same day voting!
Until voters repeal mail-in voting in Oregon, sadly such a circumstance will never happen. However, barring extreme patriotic action, I foresee Oregon remaining Communist for at least the rest of my life, same day poll voting with ID, whatever, or not.
Same in Colorado. It is ridiculous how many mail in ballots they send out to dead people, ineligible, illegal, underage.
I like the “beat the cheat” phrase. SAME DAY VOTE ONLY!
[s]election code movie features Meas CO’s election supervisor and the problems with Dominion voting machines. They scan in ballots but the interior code switches the votes to enable a D win.
Again, if you receive a mail-in ballot, send it in. If you make a mistake and vote twice the professionals at the County Clerk’s office will catch it and notify you of your mistake.
Given the current actions IN Colorado, with a County recorder simultaneously running for SoS, and under prosecution with a gag order, or “don’t leave the State” order, I would cautiin against “writing off” ANY State; why concede territory to the enemy, that they may only be holding loosely.
The cheat system is layered, and the tactics and strategies that we develop and implement must also be multifaceted and flexible.
In addition to ghost ballots, to increase the count for THEIR Candidates, they also engage in voter suppression, to suppress OURS.
Key to that, is identifying where to focus such efforts, in order to suppress OUR votes, while not their own.
For instance, “sharpie gate” where, only in districts they know are MAGA, they told voters, ON ELECTION DAY to use sharpies, throwing their ballots into adjudication..
Point is, by voting on election day, you are telling the cheaters their is a very high liklihood your ballot is a MAGS Ballot, effectively painting a bullseye on it.
While we all support returning to same day voting, its possible that a strealth measure worth considering, IN SOME STATES may be to ‘vote early’ and drop ballot in official box in county recorders office?
Just something to consider,…
Same thing here in Washington – Dino Rossi was a popular, sane, smart businessman and when he beat the “preferred” candidate, Christine Gregoire in 2004, the party regulars went crazy (And it was BOTH parties who were aligned against him – the state GOP is absolutely useless).
They somehow managed to “find” just enough last minute ballots to put her ahead by 139 votes, on the 3rd recount. The GOP sued but did a horrible job and “lost” in court. (Sound familiar?)
One of the first things Gregoire did was to institute all mail-in ballots and the Democrats have never lost a statewide race since!
Plus ça changé plus c’est la même chose…
I remember the GOP did nothing when Franken found votes to beat Coleman. Franken was the vote that gave us Obamacare.
Yep, the pattern becomes very clear once you actually start looking for it! The Washington State GOP allowed Maria Cantwell to defeat longtime Republican Senator Slade Gorton in 2000 and I think it was a trial run for how to “produce” votes in King County. Having a media that is allergic to reporting anything that MIGHT favor a Republican doesn’t help either!
It could be fixed so easily and the fact that no one in the GOP – either locally or nationally – pushes for simple solutions proves, to me anyway, that it is NOT a “problem” they want solved, so I have to conclude, just like Sundance posted, that they prefer it to be a complicated, unworkable, easily manipulated process!
Cui bono?
Prime example was the primary for the fourth district for Washington. Seven Republicans in the primary. And we ended up with Newhouse. The GOP ran a splinter strategy on us.
Just like what happened in the Governor’s race in 2020…the interparty fighting between the Josh Freed faction and the Loren Culp faction destroyed our best chance to get rid of a totally dishonest and universally disliked Governor in Jay Inslee. If the State GOP would have sat down with all of the primary contenders early on and figured out who actually had a chance to win in November, they could have coalesced behind ONE person in advance of the primary!
The simple fact of the matter was that Culp was never going to get enough votes on the West side of the state to win, Josh Freed had too many shady business dealings in his past (and no moderates/Democrats were going to vote for a so-called “Conservative Christian” anyway), and Tim Eyman is a train wreck who should have been completely disavowed by the Party immediately.
The only candidate, IMHO, who actually could have won state-wide was the person who finished 4th in the Primary – State Senator Phil Fortunato. He is a long time business owner in the South King County, well liked and well respected by people in BOTH parties after his many years in office, had a detailed plan for how to address all of the major issues facing the state, and has no skeletons in his closet. But he couldn’t get any traction or support from the Party bosses because he didn’t want to play their games…and the media wouldn’t cover him because they realized that he probably had a shot at winning if enough people started looking at him!
So here we are – stuck with King Inslee for another four years! And today marks Day 905 of his “emergency powers” with no end in sight! Thanks for nothing WAGOP!
“,..the State GOP is useless,…”
And whos responsibility is it to correct that?
And how can you address anything ELSE, without correcting THAT?
For instance, have you attended a local Republican party monthly meeting
Have you requested a copy of the State parties by-laws, to learn how to go about voting out the “useless” State party leadership, and replacing them with MAGA patriots?
Do you understand this is ‘the soft underbelly’ of the enemy, they are VULNERABLE?
And finally do you understand that all invrstigations of election fraud find it is rampant in ALL States.
Therefore, it is highly likely that NYS and Colorado AREN’T “reliably blue”, but have just been painted that way.
We can’t even get control of our own R party. They inserted a rino for Gov and her flyer never mentioned Trump or America First. Just like always they control who is on the ballot. Selection.
Ah, but we CAN control our own Republican party, it just takes getting of your *sses, organising at the grassroots level, going into the local party as an “insurgent” (leave your MAGA hats and rhetoric at home, you are a SPY.
Identify “friend or foe”, align with MAGA friends, use our numerical superiority to swell the membership, and vote the RINOS out.
THEY are the ones, the State R party, that put up splitter candidates, to insure their RINO candidates make it thru the primary.
With MAGA control of the State party, we put an end to that.
I USED to say to wife (and to THINK) “I am going to my Republican party meeting now.”
NOW I say (and think) ,…
“I am going to my MAGA meeting!”
Drink that difference in, and then GET YER *SS TO A MEETING!
I still say people need to come out of the voting booth and report their vote to volunteers outside. I believe it is the only way to keep things honest. I believe it would only take one election cycle to do this. From then on Republicans would have control and could clean up elections.
I have thought about this.
What if, in good locations (voters have to walk past you, red county, townspeople who have a relatively high level of local trust), a couple of volunteers put up a really big board that just said, “we are double checking the machine count. After you have voted, come and place a checkmark in the column of the candidate for whom you voted, along with your first and last initials” Have a third column for checkmarks for people who walk in and out of the voting area but decline to participate.
At the end of the day, if you have 167 checkmarks with initials for MAGA, and 87 checkmarks for DEM, and 37 checkmarks for those observed coming and going, you would have a total of 261 in person voters and you would know MAGA got at least 167 votes, plus or minus maybe 10 liars either way but probably fewer than that.
If the machine count later showed 167 in person votes for DEM, you would have very, very clear evidence of fraud in that precinct. And a true local uproar, because you could easily check the 167 initials against the voter roles and identify the subgroup of people whose votes were switched and/or identify the 80 phantom votes.
Do something like that, and just watch the Reeee that would erupt.
There are a great many smart people, working on solutions to establish election integrity, security, transparency and accountability in a comprehensive program.
However, like the southern border,if you have a genuine WILL to address the issue, at the control level, its not difficult.
If the control level OPPOSES election or border security, until you address that level, you can not achieve success.
Az is “ground zero” for this effort.
Mark Fitchem HAS done a deep dive on crafting legislation to address election integrity, and submitted 11 bills in the legislature, which the RINO leadership blocked.
Said leadership got voted out in the primary, and the 1 seat MAGA MAJORITY in the Az State legislature will grow if Trump endorsed candidates prevail, and such legislation can be passes.
Fitchem has suggested ONE simple change, which while not a silver bullet, would be a good start.
As the ballots come in, early voting, mail in and same day, a COUNT or TALLY is kept. Not “how they voted” but JUST the # of ballots recieved.
On election night, this “total ballots recieved” # is publically announced.
And THAT total can not be added to, later.
Again, election security and border security isn’t rocket science, IF those “in control” wish it, and if they don’t driving them out of control positions and replacing them with those who do, is essential.
And it can and IS being done, we just need EVERYONE, in EVERY state, to get involved, instead of being manipulated by the enemy into believing “nothing can be done” “our Rep party is USELESS” “THEY control elections, so why bother?) and similar propoganda intended to blunt our participation.
We HAVE strength in #’s, but it does us no good, unless we USE it.
go viral and take a picrure
Also check to see if you are still registered to vote in State you lived in before.
https://www.usa.gov/election-office
The last morning of the 2016 RNC Convention I sat in a large banquet room with my husband and fellow Minnesotans eating breakfast and listening to speakers before hopping on a bus and going to the convention. Dirty MN GOP politician, Tom Emmer, was speaking and asked all the Delegates and Alternates, “Who here has been for Donald Trump from the beginning?”
About six hands went up across the room, and mine was one of them.
One by one Tom pointed to and reminded the other five that they had been for someone else before crossing over to Trump, until mine was the only hand still in the air.
At that point Tom yelled across the room and asked, ‘Are you bragging?’, to which I loudly and proudly yelled back, “YES!”
Throughout that entire week I was treated as though I was covered with boils by my fellow Minnesotans (there were a few gracious attendees, and I was thankful my husband accompanied me there).
Once we were all home again the head of MN GOP sent out an email saying, ‘Now we need to work to pull all those Trump supporters into our camp.’
I wrote back and said, ‘Now you need to work for all the Trump supporters, who are fighting for the party platform, and who will make the party grow.’
Nope, it wasn’t going to happen. Donald Trump and those who supported him were/are untamable; we are all unacceptable to the perverse degenerates who think they are our betters.
Right on! : )
I honestly believe we’re going to have to enforce every gop “supposed” candidate to sign an affadavit saying if they go rino, we fire them STAT!
Systematically voting out all incumbents would solve the problem in a different way. Vet as best possible; even if a RINO slips through, they only have one term to mess things up or fulfill their campaign promises. They won’t get entrenched.
So, your suggesting voting out MTG, and Boerner, because they are incumbents?
We are so addicted to the illusion of convenience!
Voting “straight R ticket” is what got us into this mess, allowing the party to select and vette the candidates, instead of getting involved in that process ourselves.
Its “easy” its “convenient” and it reduces VOTING to filling in bubbles like a shool test, and having a cheat sheet cause we mark all R candidates.
VOTING, our right, priviledge AND RESPONSIBILITY, involves getting ACTIVELY involved, at ALL stages of the process, not just marking ballots, and coming up with a “voting strategy” which is just a strategy for how to mark ballots, is naively continueing the same failed, limited view if voting as marking a ballot.
Further. Legal contracts. If, as a recent court decision suggests (can’t remember the name), one can sign away ones speech rights in a contract, one can also sign away doing things other than maga and America First.
That’s so awesome! I love it!!
Raven, as a fellow conservative Minnesotan I am proud of you and grateful to you for your dedication and courage. This state is full of karens and faux gop ignorant people. I have never contributed to the MN GOP. I truly believe MN went Trump in 2020, but the voter fraud here was same as other states.
Totally with you Hanson_Charlie!
Minnesota is full of Karens, RINOs and socialists.
I too believe Minnesota went red in 2020 and in 2016, and know for certain that almost every county auditor’s office broke the law during the elections by not having bi-partisan election judges on their Absentee Ballot Boards. There were lawsuits Minnesota Voter’s Alliance brought against multiple counties and cities for the laws they broke, but with the same leftist liberal judge hearing all those cases, they were brushed aside as if a gnat of annoyance.
The leftists in this state are brutal liars who think they too are our betters.
I hate them all.
But then I remember what my pastor said, ‘They are not our enemy, they are our mission field.’
This field is most definitely ripe unto harvest.
Liz Cheney is forming a pac for the sole purpose pf opposing MAGA candidates.
A blind man should be able to see what is happening here.
If republicans would go after democrats the way they go after the conservatives, the democrat party would already have joined the Whig party.
So that would be in addition to what Kevin McCarthy is already doing …
Bullseye! Kevin McCarthy is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. He is a masterful con man and nobody is exposing him for his fraudulent behavior. You watch…If Republicans win the House in November, he will be the House’s Judas just as Paul Ryan was the last time we had the majority in the House. The Republican Party leadership stinks to high heaven.
What, you expect her to get a real job? /s
Grifters gonna grift.
ahh, Liz McMullen.
hopefully some meme maker can morph Mz. Cheney’s picture with McMuffin of Utah.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/liz-cheney-enters-second-stage-grief-blames-very-sick-republicans-her-loss
Loser liz needs to check into an insane asylum. She is beyond delusional.
the nothing special person who two years ago would not be caught talking to you for 2 seconds
declares that currently she would not be caught talking to you for 1 second.
Liz is right, we are very sick and tired of the lying frauds like her who tell us one thing and vote the exact opposite way. Warning to you other Republican frauds: YOU’RE NEXT!
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/08/joe_biden_uses_500000_federal_funds_to_construct_himself_a_personal_border_wall.html
The more you see the more you think, We should have started a new party NO MATTER WHAT.
Who knows if a new party could be successful, but it would be nice not having the corrupt GOP establishment constantly trying to screw us.
How much have you donated to your favorite candidate?
Good question “Real buddy Smot”.
We might also ask how hard the people who want to start a new party have worked or donated time to try to change the existing one.
How many local, state or county meetings have these people sat through?
How many (boring) local party committee’s have they been on, volunteered for, worked for?
How hard are the people demanding a new party willing to work, papers must be filled out and handed in, new officers must volunteer gobs and gobs of hours of time.
Are the people demanding change willing to do all of this?
This work will be exhausting and demanding.
Money, time and energy must be put forth in amounts that will astonish people and many screaming for a new party like it is the easy answer for all of our problems are welcome to start one any day and time now.
Replacing RINOs with MAGA can happen regardless of the MAGA attack ads the Club uses or a multitude of fake MAGA splitters in the Primary. This only works when a large portion of the voters are clueless.
The bigger concern is the integrity of the election system itself. If the club has pre-negotiated winners and losers the entire system is a fraud from top to bottom.
Without a valid election system, ‘no’ strategy will work, MAGA takeover or third party.
A MAGA takeover of the STATE REPUBLICAN PARTIES is HOW you get a “valid election system”.
The National parties actual influence on elections, WHICH OCCUR AT THE STATE LEVEL, is limited to dumping $ into campaigns, and attempting to influence State party officials, thru patronage.
They funneled $10 million into Robson the Rinos campaign in Az. in addition to her sugar daddy husbands $20 million, whereas KL had $3 million, largely small donors.
The STATE party did NOT put up a ‘splitter candidate’, because MAGA has operational control of the State party.
The State MAGA party censured the former Speaker of the House a powerful RINO with 40 years in Az politics.
Censured a RINO County recorder, had them removed from their job overseeing elections in Pinal and Pima County, and censured a R member of the odious Maracopa board of Supervisors.
In NM, the Otero County board of elections had an audit, exposed machine flaws, declared they wanted to decertify the results from 2020 that they had relayed to the SOS.
Were told “you can’t”. Said they wanted to use paper only ballots for the recent primaries. Were told “you can’t, and will be arrested if you try”.
Board said “come and TAKE it”, and defied the SOS.
The battle IS joined, the strategy DOES work.
WHAT, in the end can the National party do, to stem this insurgency, uprising within State parties?
In terms of Optics, they can’t kick a State party “out” thats an admission of defeat. Bottom line is that STATE officials run and control elections, and STATE Repilublican parties run the Republican party effort in elections.
Control of the State party is ours for the taking, they can not prevent it. Once MAGA controls the State party, they can run to win.
Perhaps in the future we may see “reverse splitter” in the primaries; ONE Strong MAGA candidate, vs 6-7 RINOS, to split the RINO vote, lol.
You are 100% correct.
You are spot on Sundance once again. I remember an Ann Coulter statement that she made many years ago. Basically, Ms. Coulter stated that Republicans are not able to be the party in power. Time has proven her correct. Mitch McConnell is a swamper and will never not be now that he is grown soft.
Ann Coulter, though, is now just as vile a fraud as those we are speaking of here.
She has no credibility herself anymore. She is a nasty, elitist attention whore.
Totally buy the premise. I’m also convinced that Paul Ryan / RNC (through relative inaction and with at least tacit arrangement with the Democrats) threw the House to the Democrats in 2018. This paved the way for the Democrats’ (and GOPe) impeachment jihad against President Trump … without direct GOP fingerprints on it.
Recall too that this was the cycle when Fox News called the House for the Democrats while the polls out west were still open.
Yeah.
We all watched CA and saw what we saw. Dominion and ballot harvesting in action.
I agree and would go farther. The Insurance policy, as mansplained by stroxz, was planned in 2015, cause we see actions to create the appearance of smoke, from 2015 on.
The plan makes NO SENSE, without the ‘actives’ (Comey, etc) having an ironclad guarantee that the House would flip in 2018,, AND that any Congressional investigations of the ‘actives’ actions would be stonewalled.
And the otherwise inexplicable behaviors of Ryan, to gift the House to Nanzi, and his blatant efforts to quash the Nunes investigations, and the matching actions of McConnell directing Graham to block any Senate invrstigations can ONLY be explained ONE way.
McConnell and Ryan were DEEPLY involved in the PLANNING of the “Insurance policy plan” to Watergate PDJT, and in all likelyhood were its originators.
Its the only explanation.
I’ll take term limits for 100 trillion alex.
short ones.
1 session a human being, no more. No reelection allowed. It will never happen, but at this point I’ve all but (and almost still ready to) given up any hope at all the current system in any way can be salvaged; dark days ahead that will lead to permanent generational darkness, or hey we get lucky with the 10% chance we score a miracle due to the amazing character of patriotic Americans. I won’t quit working hard to make that happen, but it is the longest of long shots.
No, it is NOT “the longest of long shots” it is the ONLY SHOT, and has ALREADY demonstrated,..
“It WORKS if you WORK it!”
BECAUSE it works, the enemy continues in its desperate attempts to sew dispondency and division.
DO NOT fall for it!
Putting the focus in the wrong area, respectfully.
Firstly, repeal the 22 amendment term limiting the POTUS.
HOW is it “3 co-equal branches of Govt.” when ONE is term limited to 8 years, and the others can serve for life?
Secondly, such measures are failing to state the problem, and then address the problem.
Long terms of office, for politicians elected in an honest system of elections are fine.
Who here wants to term limit MTG, for example?
Your rebuilding the carbutetor that doesn’t need it, instead of identifying and repairing the distributor.
Taking operational control of State Republican parties, thereby electing a SLATE of MAGA candidates to enact comprehensive measures to clean up elections, will mean an army of MTG’s going into Congress.
These same slates of State Maga officials can implement aggressive Federalism, to strip the Federal Govt of UnConstitutional usurpations of powers reserved TO the States, and to We, the People.
One other useful measure, as opposed to “term limits”; repeal the 17 th amendment, so that Senators are appointed AND BE RECALLED by State Legislstures.
IMHO,..
Georgia was stolen, so little effort and lots of outrage was the call of the day.
No doubt about. B-B-B-Biden. Osoff, Warnick to the recent primary all fraud.
In 2018, Ossoff lost a House election in a more favorable electorate than the one he faced statewide for Senate. Also, Perdue had 90,000 more votes in November than Ossoff and barely avoided a runoff. Then, all of a sudden, he lost in January.
Fraud all the way.
Georgia was sold.
Not new, news.
President Trump brought this all out in open for everyone to see. So, gee what a surprise the rnc and dnc are nothing more than the “elite clubs” of which you nor I are a part of.
President Trump is the first president FOR THE PEOPLE, hence the reason for the vile hatred toward him.
I cannot agree more, c h.
Risk aversion; on steroids.
What the average American has yet to understand. Trump does not get tin the Oval Office it is curtains for the United States. How can this Nation possibly survive under the present government. …The answer is it won’t.
If America falls, so will most of the world.
Ditch McConnell
I get zero comfort with that thought.
you are correct
I can count on my one hand how many people that I know
that have knowledge of this and it is only because I clued them in
if you have paid attention
they are even telling us straight to our face and they are not hiding it.
people like to ignore things they find uncomfortable
just like Desantis being connected to the WEF
people will still say He is a good man! LMAO
they will ignore this all the way
until the knock on the door..
Interestingly enough, Russia will seem like Utopia compared to where we are heading. Mexico is already complaining about the Americans relocating in Mexico. I have several friends who have already relocated in Mexico.
I know someone who moved to Mexico and he only lasted a year
he would brag on how cheap it was to live there
after a little time
he found the natives were not the most friendly people
and he came back.
Mexicans are complaining about the Americans relocating in Mexico. Especially Mexico City Mexicans.
Those who’ve been there for a long time apparently have established enclaves where they exist and the surrounding locals are managed and they stay off the cartel’s radar.
I first became aware of the dynamic in the 70’s when schoolmates would spend time at their ‘homes in Mexico’, mostly Baja, during vacation periods.
No interest here; lived for decades among the illegals and migrants in CA’s agricultural industry. That was enough Mexico for me.
Most Americans who try to live in Mexico eventually run into the Drug Cartels.
Mexico is a narco state.
It is not the sun kissed paradise many think it is.
American’s who visit for only a few days or weeks on vacation and have a mistaken idea of Mexico.
When they move down there permenantly they hit reality and are a bit shell shocked.
Being a money spending tourist in Mexico that the natives only see for a few days and can fawn over is very different than being a daily neighbor.
The drug cartels are a unpleasant fact of life often missed when just down there for a short time but one that must be faced when living there daily like the Mexican born citizens.
No question about it. 2020, 18,16,14,12,10,08,06,04,02 need a complete forensic look and all laws past under electronic voting set aside. Start with the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, TSA.
And WHEN PDJT returns to the Oval office, with an ARMY of tried and tested, battle hardened MAGA patriots, 4000-7000 strong to fill positions in his admin, including cabinet positions, it will spell the end of the enemy.
They KNOW it.
They have said it.
They know they can not prevent it.
They believe it.
Why should we doubt it?
Whoever told you that the establishment would just roll over was misinformed. While it may be true that Mitch and company can remove the money, they cannot stop you from donating. If you want MAGA to win, you must donate until it hurts. Everyone here should donate at least $1,000. We are losing our country.
STOP YOUR WHINING AND PULL YOUR WALLETS OUT!!!
LET’S ROLL!
I disagree. Money is not the answer. In fact, in my opinion, the money is what corrupts them all. Sweat is way more effective.
Local involvement: local churches, local food pantries, local Constitutional Sheriffs, local school boards, local city councils, etc. We take back our communities, our counties, our states, one little area at a time. And if everyone did that, it would have way more effect than cash.
$ only is decisive in elections when its a “lesser of two weavils” phoney choice election.
Robson $30 million, KL $3 MILLION, KL WON.
Donating $ is important, and easy.
Donating TIME, ENERGY ENTHUSIASM, is MORE important, and it is DECISIVE.
Using our strength in #’s, to take control of State Republican party, so they could NOT put in splitter candidates, and not “put their thumb on the scale” to favor Robson while feighning neutrality was of greater impact on KL’s primary win, than donations of $.
LEARN the LESSON, and repeat it.
“The Gay Pirate” Dan Crenshaw was out on Sunday TV selling the GOPe talking points. And as usual, he seemed more interested in attacking other R’s, than the Democrats.
As for Mitch and Plastic man McCarthy, were lucky that no one outside of DC cares about them. Mumbles wouldn’t win 5% of the vote in a Presidental Republican Primary. Nobody in Arz or Ohio will vote Republican or Democrat in November 2022 because of what Mumbles says or doesn’t say. He could sabatoge Roy Moore in 2017, because it was a standalone election and the subject of national focus.
Basically, the Trump years showed how absolutely useless it is to nominate and elect GOPe types. If Mumbles had another five Romney like Senators, what difference would it make? Oz may lose in Pennsylvannia, but the alterantive was another Pat toomey, who did nothing the American people wanted. The same thing happened in GA in Jan 2017. How would we be better off with those two GOPe clowns in the Senate? Perdue wouldn’t fight the steal or support anything Trump said. The other one, lied about supporting “Stop the Steal” and then flipped as soon as she could.
Crenshaw=Kitzinger (like we needed another neocon RINO…)
With John S. McCain gone, they had to invent a new one. They know on which side their bread is buttered, and don’t care a whit whether we have any bread at all.
Roy Moore finally won his slander lawsuit. Only took, what, 5 years???
If Dick and Hillary had a love child it would look and act just like Liz.
sickening
While DeSantis is going around working for MAGA candidates CTH is smearing him.
Who is actually the GOPe here?
have you ever heard of the Trojan Horse?
Ron plays for team WEF
the dots have been connected
why do you ignore this fact?
Provide the receipts. No dots have been connected here. Only conjecture.
Please link to the quotevor video of Desantis clearly calling the 2020 election a steal; saying the election was STOLEN from PDJT.
Please link to a 2 minute video of Kari Lake, since her announcement as a candidate, in which she DIDN’T unequivocally call out the Steal. She won’t shut up about it!
YOU CAN’T.
Reciept requested, reciept supplied.
Compare and contrast is a natural brain function.
Compare and contrast DeSantis and KL, and you are seeing the difference between a GOPe construct, an ersatz “MAGA candidate” and “the REAL DEAL”.
And Hellen Keller, even though still voting, can “see” the difference.
I don’t live in Florida, so I don’t know the answer to this question, maybe you do. Has Governor Desantis covered his own state and worked hard for MAGA candidates in every federal, state, county, local election? Are there and federal, state, county, or municipal election where there is not even a republican running, much less a MAGA one?
Point being, from the outside it would seem that Governor Desantis has been good for Florida when his focus is on Florida, as it should be as a Governor. But if he has not been making sure that there are ‘Make Florida Great Again’ candidates in every single race and giving them full support, then he should not be out and about on the national scene campaigning while there’s work ‘that should have been’ or ‘still to be done’ in the state of Florida.
With the Florida primary tomorrow there is nothing can be done at this point to have assured that a MFGA (or at least a Republican) was in every race, but let us see if he pivots from his ‘national tour of help’ and focuses everything he has on all the races in Florida.
–“Are there and federal, state…”–
Oops! ‘and’ should be ‘any’ = Are there any federal………
Working for MAGA candidates?
During his speech in Az–
If it was a drinking game-take a shot for each time DeSantis said Florida-after 5 minutes everyone would have been passed out stone cold on the floor.
I kept thinking-Who is he campaigning for?
He kept talking about all the great things he had done for FL.
CRT—we passed it last summer! FL didn’t pass until this year.
Covid- AZ didn’t play the Covid game.
Budget surplus- we have one too.
I could go on…
Again, who was he campaigning for–it definitely wasn’t our candidates.
Perzactly!
He spent more time promoting himself than promoting and rallying people to the folks he was supposedly there to promote and help. Plain and simple–If he is on a tour to help other MAGA candidates, then that is what he should be doing–promoting them! If not, stay at home in Florida and promote all the MAGA candidates there where he is the Governor.
Don’t we often say that; “All Politics is local”? Do that 1st and foremost and then reach out to help lend support.
How about we take the white board away from Karl and waterboard the hell out of him and get some straight answers about the goals of the Club?
Hope this make sense, hard sometimes to put into words what the instincts are saying to do:
Some days it feels as if the coup (disintegration of our Constitutional framework) has already been accomplished and we are just now coming to terms with this reality – and
some days it feels as if the heart and very soul that created America, that everyday people have as our foundation, has been rekindled and we have already won and the globalist coup members are just now coming to terms with this realty –
it’s amazing to see these opposites at work in my heart and mind and it takes conscious effort to commit to choose to experience the wins that are present in each new day . . .
pretty sure this is how we fulfill for our progeny ‘The best is yet to come!’ – we do this or let others get away with what they are choosing to experience each day (which is the end of our republic).
Think the ’70’s phrasing for this was ‘keep on keeping on!’
Considering the communism of Democrats is out in the open and we are living it right now, whatever happens in November will be the best case scenario we will ever see. Any district that remains Democrat will be forever Democrat.
George S;
thats like in the war council of the allies, in WW2, saying Eisenhowers “operation overlord” plan was a waste of resources and there was “no way” to take territory of continental europe away from the Axis forces.
A rediculous notion on its face.
Any district that is “democrat” is that way because the GOPe enables it to be.
Any district that has RINO representation,..ditto.
Did you not watch the recent video on lindells efforts, with activists in EVERY ONE of the 50 States, reporting exactly the same election fraud techniques?
“Reliably Blue States”,…AREN’T!
States “turning purple” or “purple states turning blue” AREN’T.
ITS an elaborate CON, the Court cases, in which both wings of the Uniparty appear to ‘fight over redistricting’ is yet ANOTHER part of manipulating election results, in order to perpetuate the fraud, and enable leftists to take a traditionally center right nation (the U.S.) so far to the left as to have “drag queen story hours” and “post birth abortions”.
DO NOT concede territory to the enemy. CHALLENGE their hold on territory, as all of this fraud, this massive CON is absolutely dependant on the “Uniparty strategy” of ONE party, with two wings, and on a ‘controlled opposition’ Republican party.
Take out the Establishment Republican control of State parties, and ALL that we desire is ours.
FAIL to do this, and NOTHING is possible.
Ive been saying this for weeks, they would rather circle the swamp wagons and have the messaging be all about America First candidates not being able to lead. The reality is they can and will. THey come from the workforce and we the people, the tax payers. Look at the widesweeping Primary wins.
AMerica First runs the GOP and they’re going to go kicking and screaming. Mitch and the other sold out commies are scared shatless
What they don’t get is there are many (not all) who are done with the club permanently. IF it’s GOPe I’m not voting for it and it’s been that way for me for a very long time, even before Trump. Maybe America has to learn the hard way. I most likely will not be casting a vote for D.C. office whether it’s House, POTUS or otherwise unless it’s an America First candidate. If it’s the same GOPe I’ll pass. I know some get angry with me for saying it but we aren’t going to change things by doing it the same way. If the club is happy to lose to teach us a lesson then I guess I’ll be happy to lose and teach them on in return. Many of us are not going back. I don’t think they get that.
I think they DO get it, but are helpless to stop it, although that doesn’t mean they aren’t TRYING.
Its like trying to stop an avalanche or landslide; once its started, there is no stopping it.
Excellent analysis.
What I don’t get is how is an economic and social collapse is good for any business or financial interest, big or small?
Because that is what is in full bloom in Europe now and coming soon to the US if we don’t get back on the path MAGA wants and PDJT was trying his best to deliver against this corrupt cabal.
The ‘gains’ of this cabal will vaporize into worthless ‘assets’ without a productive economy; which requires inexpensive energy and a talented and motivated workforce.
Further, if the collapse is taken far enough the Sri Lanka solution eventually comes into play.
This is sort of where I’m at. We must overlap the Sundance outline above with ” Great Reset ” / NWO economic destruction goals , leading to global CBDC on a country by country basis.
For example , BRIC’s ( and many others ) countries drop the petro-dollar , that has profound impacts that will shape uni-party plans within the above blueprint.
Xi of Chyna will meet with Saudis soon, Putin already did.
I got a call from an RNC fundraiser. Told me how scary the Democrats are. I agreed. Then I pointed out that the Republicans do “Jack” when in power. Unlike the Democrats. So I wasn’t going to give the RNC any money. My money goes to specific people or groups that I know will fight. The fundraiser tried to talk over me and I hung up. We have to create a financial incentive for them to fight
Weird, I’ve had the same conversation. : )
Good stuff.
Fox Corporate & Mitch helped install the OBiden Junta–but now they’re going to save us from it. Sure.
Politicians of both parties actually do believe we are all a bunch of dimwitted rubes who can be conned. Nov. 8th will disavow them of that false assumption. There is not a damn thing either party can do about the tsunami headed in their direction.
https://nationalfile.com/romney-tied-super-pac-spends-big-against-carl-paladino-in-ny-23/
FTA “A super PAC tied to never-Trump Republican and failed presidential candidate Mitt Romney is spending big money in New York’s 23rd Congressional District in an effort to defeat America First candidate Carl Paladino. In his GOP Primary contest, Paladino is standing against Nick Langworthy, the chairman of New York State’s Republican Party.”
The Romney-tied American Liberty Action PAC has spent $344,354 dollars opposing America First candidate Carl Paladino, campaign finance records show. Additionally, the PAC has spent $9,400 supporting Langworthy. Those figures resemble other races that the Romney-aligned PAC has involved itself in across the country, spending more than $2 million trying to defeat conservative Republicans.”
Here’s the RNC club in action! “Senator Mitch McConnell and the GOP club corporate donors are not happy with the unapproved candidates winning many of the 2022 primary contests. They are not hiding their disdain, nor are they hiding their shift in midterm expectations as a result of their desire to see the unapproved republican candidates defeated.” – Sundance
Paladino ran for Governor against Andrew Cu0mo in 2011.
The DNC and RNC. A bunch of lying, cheating, scheming grifters. The entire lot of them. Producing nothing good for society, only money (via influence peddling) for themselves, their family and their friends. INFURIATING!!!
Sundance is right as usua, and shines the light on the darkness. But what always seems to be lacking in these type analyses are the inclusion of the OTHER defeat MAGA forces at work.
It isnt just the DEMS. It isnt just the GOPe. It is also the Lin Woods and all of the rest of the flame-throwing dumbasses who tell us to boycott the elections because we cannot verify the accuracy of them.
If Sundance is going to condemn the GOPe, as he should, for the role they played in Georgia in 2021, then transparency and honesty should also incline him to condemn Lin Woods and his ilk who, contrary to PDJT (who worked like a horse to help our GOP candidates in the Senate run-offs right up until the day before), urged people to stay at home and NOT VOTE. Bannon cost us the Senate seat when he pushed Roy Moore against PDJT’s candidate for Sessions’ seat.
Too often, some Republicans want to blame just the DEMS. Too often, some MAGA people will condemn the GOPe as well. But long-time veterans of the America First movement in this county know that it is those stupid people who do not support the MAGA candidates or the closest to MAGA candidates when there are no perfect candidates on the ballot to be cast that day or encourage people to skip voting because of the result of elections past.
Work for honest elections. Work to defeat RINOs in the primary. But focus on winning the battle in front of you as well.
Failure to do so is no better that all of the McConnells, McCarthys and Ronas you can idenfity. And the state of the Union is on their heads as well.
Just my opinion.
About the best we can do short term is to repay in kind what they have been doing to us.
i. e. , Use them.
But only for a very short time until they can be replaced.
Rinse, repeat.
I wonder if they can do this without voting machines at the midterms and in jail?
Mike Lindell’s Moment Of Truth Summit DAY 2 – Election Fraud Is Worse Than You Think…LIVE ALL DAY!
2022-08-21
Day two crushed them
LOL. And provided NO proof. I got excited, too, when I was young waiting on Santa Claus.
Tell these people to PUT UP or STFU. Stop milking the MAGA forces with false hope. Tell them to spend their time GETTING PROOF for us so we can support their work and restore election integrity.
Lindells, Bannons, etc. just working the peeps, man. Just working the peeps.
So, trying to get the truth out is “working the peeps” to you?
Everyone has been told the truth, repeatedly. We all know that there were election irregularities and some theft. What we have not been given, by the people who are taking the lead on this and claiming otherwise, is PROOF that could be used to actually ACT on and go to court.
We remain a nation of laws. We have to have PROOF. To be several years later still bilking the MAGA troops of $$$ for more conferences, summits, etc. without providing EVIDENCE to back up the believable claims of election fraud is self-defeating the movement.
People told PDJT in 2020 EARLY in the year that the election was going to be stolen, the problems with ballot by mail, etc. and he did nothing about it WHEN there was time. This problem was talked about DAILY here for months in 2020. Too late now.
All Lindell and his type are doing now are engaging in mental masturbation with stolen elections as the image to be focused on.
STOP tilting at windmills. Do something.
People should be registering MAGA-minded neighbors and friends to vote, reviewing the voter rolls in their precincts and working NOW to make sure there are honest elections WHERE they live. It can be done.
Who is providing any LEADERSHIP for this? The same people who did so in 2020….NOBODY.
Because we have a summit to sell.
Proof abounds. Start here: Russell Ramsdel, cyber security expert who identified foreign IP access to Dominion machines and algorithm that counted votes in fractions.
No offense, but you’re not paying attention. There is more proof they have presented than you can shake a stick at. The proof is enormous. The work they’ve done is gargantuan. They’ve presented the evidence in every forum that hasn’t banned them. You have to take the time to review the evidence. If you don’t take the time, you don’t see it, and you can say whatever you want and believe whatever you want. Lindell and Bannon and D’Souza and True the Vote, and others are working their butts off for MAGA.
Hypotheses are not proof. They are compelling. Any proof they have should be taken to court. Get voters in the state where the election was stolen and they have proof to go to court as the plaintiff and go from there.
This has NOT been done anywhere.
Thank you!
Like Rocky – Mike Lindell came back! If the powers that be are not in panic today. Then they are fools.
Sundance — what’s your take on Jim Jordan and Francis Suarez (GOP mayor of Miami)?
I was surprised of your take on DeSantis but you bring forth very good points…
We all know a Movement won’t last unless leadership multiplies. I though DeSantis was one of the up and coming. If not him, who would you see as a Trump successor?
Kari Lake would be one if she is allowed to win…… what happens if they don’t?
Thanks!! Long time reader and lurker on this site…
iSapiens
Jim Jordan is a prolific tweeter and does a good job creating soundbites while on the national stage.
Beyond that, he is useless.
Well, unbidden my take on Jordan is he is not at the top of my list, as MAGA.
I think he is playing a role, not unlike Gowdy played in his day.
SURE, he asks tough questions in hearings, but lets just say given a choice between Jordan or MTG as Speaker, its MTG, hands down.
Even if KL has the election stolen from her, she has already earned the honor of “Trump in a dress” and proven her bona fides as a TRUE AmericaFirst candidate, and NOT a phoney.
If she wins in November, and especially if the slate of 12 PDJT endorsed True A1 candidates win, America will see what a genuine MAGA Governor, with support from key State officials looks like.
She is the most prominent, but she is NOT the only one.
Across the country, people are rising up; the county board in Otero County, NM.
The county recorder in Mesa County, Colo.
Its happening all over. Some will surely fall, casualties of this war.
But those that survive the brutal test of fire, will form the MAGA armies “officer corps” and (KL, for instance) accompany PDJT to DC, to help him drain the swamp.
His second term will NOT be a repeat of his first, and thats what has them terrified.
Once you see it you can’t unsee it. This makes me so depressed!
Which is EXACTLY how they want you to feel!
It is how things are won. Breakdown and demoralize the weak/feeble.
It doesn’t depress me. It inspires me. It enrages me. It fires me up.
The breakthrough is when you see the Truth, and you never go back.
It hurts at first. Makes you sick at your stomach when you see all the lies and deception. It’s like the steps of grieving a great loss. Or, facing an abuser. But, as you move forward in the light of truth, you get stronger and stronger until finally you aren’t afraid of anything any more.
Can’t afford not to vote peeps…..when you don’t you surrender to the enemy. GET TO THE POLLS!
I’ll vote. And I’ll spit afterwards to get the bad taste out of my mouth. Then, I’ll pray that we can overcome the machines.
Sundance,
You are beginning to lose me (and perhaps others). Your service in researching the corruption of the Uniparty has been invaluable. We have been redpilled. But, when we are facing an existential crisis of global woke Marxism, we need all the allies we can get. So tearing down DeSantis suggests you are more interested in a cult of personality, rather than a political movement. Political movements, to be successful, require alliances in order to concentrate our fire on the true enemy. Ron DeSantis is not the enemy.
And to further my point, for those who want to point out DeSantis’ position on TPP in 2016 as evidence of his unreliability, need I point out to you the long history of Trump’s heterodox positions on many issues of concern to conservatives and his long history of financially supporting the Clintons, particularly Hillary. Does the make him a Uniparty puppet in MAGA clothing?
So, really you want to argue, “but Trump.”
MAGA is the issue.
Sure, PDJT donated to many politicians, of all stripes. Recall, that he was a real estate businessman in NYC. Giving to politicians was/is part of that game.
PDJT, with his faults, is the only person to MAGA all while fighting off the likes of DeSantis and the uni-party schemes, attacks, and betrayal.
Again, MAGA is the issue. If the USA is not living up to its potential, what is the point of any political alliance with backstabbing people, parties, or other allies? Which is exactly what you are saying you want.
Nuts!
I am not arguing “but Trump.” I am arguing the logical inconsistency of people, especially Sundance, bashing Ron DeSantis. You make the point for me very well as you are entirely willing to concede Trump’s faults and his need “to play the game,” but are not willing to extend that same generosity of spirit to DeSantis. If MAGA is the issue, then remember it is to make America great again.
As for your joining DeSantis to “uni-party schemes, attacks and betrayals”, shame on you for doing the work of the Left.
Just stop. I’m not doing the work of the left. You are just being silly trying to twist and project onto me things not true.
DeSantis is showing himself willing to be a uni-party guy, it is just that simple, and obvious. From there, again, uni-party is the problem. I will not support an alliance with the uni-party.
As far as the misrepresenting of what I said about PDJT’s faults, stop it.
shame on you for your apparent lack of critical thinking
skills – or, you didn’t read the articles.
None of us need to take Sundance’s word; its there in
back and white for all to see “if one pays attention”.
And finally, and deeply wounding to those most committed to the cult of personality, in Trump’s first 2 years as President, with Republican control of both houses of Congress, his signature economic achievement was to do the bidding of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and pass a large tax rate cut for corporations. Does that make Trump GOPe?
Not going to argue your points about DeSantis. But, cutting the tax rate for corporations is essential in bringing manufacturing back to America. Has nothing to do with the fake and gay Chamber of Commerce.
Peter V
You are throwing up false arguments, and engaging in deception.
If your going to argue for DeSantis, argue for Desantis, instead of quickly pivoting to “Trump”.
The enemy gave us a great and powerful tool, when they stole the election.
I refer to it as our “shiboleth” a single “friend or foe” question that reliable affirms MAGA or “RINO”.
Its really ALL we need, because a RINO will NEVER concede the 2020 election was stolen and that Republican office holders were active participants.
A MAGA candidate, won’t STOP talking about it.
Before we even get to Desantis’s lack of responce on the MAL raid, IN HIS STATE, lets just look at his Turning Point Action speech.
Paraphrasing he said “We got rid of Brenda Snipes, and we have Voter I.D. in Florida. All our votes were counted by 11:00.”
And he moved on. Snipes remained in position for far too long, and messed around in 2018, before being removed.
And, she was just at the top, and the public face of a corrupt political machinr that included the sheriff, judges, school boards, etc.
I am not IN Florida, so don’t follow it closely.
Has he cleaned out that cesspool of corruption, and the one next door in Dade county, or did he just retire Brenda for optics.
Voter I.D., in and of itself DOES NOT secure election integrity, the various interactive measures used to steal, require a comprehensive approach to thwart.
And, most importantly he did NOT pass the shibolth test, and I challenge you to provide evidence he has EVER, unequivocally stated the 2020 election was stolen.
So, to rnd where you started “Sundance, you are losing me and perhaps others, ..” I submit Sundance never really HAD you or these “others”, and so has “lost” nothing.
IMHO, and ‘speaking ‘ONLY for myself, don’t ley it hit ya!
He is just making the plays for the Ditch and Rove playbook. Right?
This just proves again why I’ve said many time before, “I love my ‘User’ name on this website.” And no one else can have it!
Shut your television off of news, read and listen online as much as you can and a fair portion of any somnolence previously experienced will disappear.
Well that’s a lot of very scary stuff to swallow. I have had the same “feeling” Sundance expresses about the raid. He fills in the details that make that feeling of despair more acute. It seemed very idiotic, to me, to think the Democrat criminals would dare to raid Trump unless they had a very well planned, very deeply prepared plan that simply could not fail to remove Trump. If they fail, they will fail BIG, I think, meaning Trump will surely be elected. It seemed to me that combined with house and senate wins the criminals would have to do some serious scurrying to find proper rocks to hide under. But…wow….the implications of the club business model superposed on the unavoidable and deep political treachery common to Democrats frames out an entirely new definition of winning. It is a lot to understand.
It’s cognitive dissonance trying to process The Turdle’s “Winning through Losing” agenda.
the raid and the subsequent plan could not succeed without the
stamp of approval from the leaders of the republican party –
note how most republicans kept their mouths closed after
the raid when they should have been shouting their anger?
Upon reflection and applying the 2 week rule, thoughts of the MAL raid do not emotionally trigger me.
Not anger, frustration, or injustice, anyway.
MILD,(only because of less than 100 percent certainty) mirth, laughter and anticipation of schedenfrude is what I feel, when I think of the MAL raid.
I am 99 percent certain PDJT enticed them to conduct the raid, and any speculation it was in preparation of arresting PDJT is premature.
The raid obviously was planned, but obviously they did NOT (for some inexplicable reason) believe PDJT would make the raid public, in fact were certain he wouldn’t.
This is obvious by their caught with pants down lack of a prepared false narrative, once he did.
So, they weren’t going to announce it, they obviously believed HE wouldn’t, so “who’s to know?” and no need for a narrative.
In which case, its entirely possible this was a “snatch the flag” operation, and any legal actions, supposed charges against PDJT stemming from the raid, are after the fact, and NOT planned before the raid.
The ultimate “parrallel construction”.
Just like the Ukraine phone call impeachment that Pelosi fell over herself to push as fast as possible at her master’s orders. Than PDJT immediately said he was going to release the transcript as soon as possible and blew their charade right out.
I dunno who wins in Nov
but Fauci thinx it’s NOT the Dems
FAux Xi just tendered his resignation
as NIH head & chief FJB advisor
sez he wants time “to travel”
( maybe to extradition free adversaries???)
Exactly. He does not want to face oversight hearings chaired by Rand Paul. Of course, he can alway be subpoenaed ala Steve Bannon.
From a member called The Defiant One on page 1:
“Right, I don’t know about you folks, but I’m tired of “Losing Gracefully”, IF THE REPUBLICANS REFUSED TO LEAD TO VICTORY, THEN IT’S UP TO US TO DRAG THEM TO IT!…”
We know that The Deep State could capture and imprison President Trump, charge him with treason, have a kangaroo court verdict of guilty, and then execute him, and The GOPe would do nothing to stop it!
But what will we do?!
Would not that type of hubris finally ignite us to shut down the corruption in whatever way possible?
When I was teaching History of any kind, I mentioned a “rule of History,”
i.e. The first person to stand up and shout “NO!” will be the first one to be shot.
Corollary: If thousands or millions stand up at the same time and shout “NO!,” the powers that be are doomed, because they cannot shoot that many at the same time.
We shall see what happens.
In a previous CTH thread vilifying Desantis, the circular firing squad composed of Desantis hating posters, seemed to have missed the target.
With this newly composed Desantis hate thread, the circular firing squad has doubled down, regrouping in larger numbers to make sure that, this time, they don’t missed the target.
This is regarded as smart politics.
In the meantime, democrats everywhere who are taking all this in, are mum and smiling.
Exactly. They are doing the work of the Left.
The DeSantis/Trump wedge is exactly the distraction and goal the “Bad Guys” hope to achieve. As of now it seems to be working for them.
So if you think elections are legitimate, then it’s game on: overwhelm the enemy on Election Day, replace their people with ours, and throw out the current leadership.
Trey spoke much more professionally before he went to work for Fox. Evidently their training course for Bobble Heads has been successful and has turned him into one.
Nevertheless…I have to turn this off before I become hooked on speculation and find myself looking forward to clicking into Foxnews.
“Both parties are Beltway” Pat Buchanan