Alex Jones and David Frum are now on the same team. Isn’t that weird?
In the aftermath of the tragic death of Andrew Breitbart, there was a financial opening. Billionaire Robert Mercer stepped in and soon (’14) Breitbart advocated for Ted Cruz. Over at The Washington Free Beacon, billionaire Paul Singer stepped in, Fusion GPS was contracted and WFB advocated for Marco Rubio.
Over at the Blaze financial trouble swirled, Glenn Beck leaned on Keep the Promise and advocated for Cruz. Then, post Cruz implosion, financial trouble swirled again and suddenly Trump was a lifeline.
The March ’16 Sea Island summit was unsuccessful, anxiety ruled.
Following the 2016 RNC convention the Mercer’s (Robert and Rebekah) switched allegiances and aligned with Trump. Kellyanne Conway, formerly with Cruz, joined team Trump. Parler was created as Rebekah Mercer funded.
These are the moves of the billionaire class members within the club who utilize influence to advance objectives and self-interest. Nothing about this is surprising.
Recently, in the aftermath of a $49.3 million award, Alex Jones is on the financial ropes. The perfect position for the purchase of influence and guess what…
(Daily Mail) InfoWars host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has jettisoned his support for Donald Trump and is backing Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis for the 2024 presidential race.
Jones, who was recently ordered to pay $49.3 million to parents of a Sandy Hook school shooting victim in a defamation case, admitted he’s ‘pigheadedly’ supported Trump throughout the years. But, he said on his InfoWars podcast, he’s now backing DeSantis, who is ‘way better than Trump.’ (read more)
The billionaire donor board members of the RNC club have an agenda.
Remember, it’s a private club and there are billions -if not trillions- at stake.
A sudden surge in contributions for 2015/2016 coinciding with the Transpacific Partnership (TPP) push.
Where did the money come from? Club for Growth:
DeSantis votes to approve TPP, the biggest multinational trade sellout program, surpassing even NAFTA in consequence.
What did Club for Growth do next:
So, on the issue of international trade, multinational corporate influence, U.S. economic policy and Wall Street -vs- Main Street, we can clearly see why the billionaires in the club would be pushing tens-of-millions into the financing of Ron DeSantis as a Trump alternative.
There are trillions at stake.
It’s DeJa’Vu all over again…
I agree. The RNC is a private club and WE ain’t in it.
For decades we thought we were in though. We didn’t know there was another room at the Club we weren’t allowed to enter. President Trump opened that door and gave us a good look.
Thanks Limbaugh for brain-washing two generations of republicans!
Alex Jones’ endorsement matters as much to be now as it did before I read this.
It only matters insomuch as it gives us more insight into the $$$$ reasons endorsements are made. The pics of the political daddies reading really shows the stagecraft.
I have been an off and on Jones follower. I have never been 100% on board. I am concerned about the heavy handed first amendment issues he is facing. I understand the financial aspects of his suit(s). I don’t understand his abrupt surrender–based on his past. He seems to be “selling” out. Maybe I am wrong. Just my impression.
DeSantis might not want Alex Jones’ endorsement. This might backfire.
I think it will. Never subscribed to Jones because I honestly felt it was about him
Psywar goals: deceive, divide, demoralize then conquer.
I follow Establishment CONservative schemers social media conversations. Those who began the Ron hype actually saw/still see Youngkin as ultimately “their guy”.
Death match chess, not checkers.
The Establishments goal is to destroy and humiliate Trump and his team so they can then co opt and destroy MAGA and any other pesky outsiders who might defy them; now or in the future.
By ANY Means Necessary.
He or his family may have been threatened as well. We never really know all the reasons someone chooses to do something
An Alex Jones endorsement is not an endorsement. It’s the opposite. DeSantis is probably cringing over this.
Additional data point: David Icke is another well known truther community influencer with lots of “followers”.
Icke brands himself as the “mature” alternative to AJs normie truther hang out.
On the SAME day, using the SAME “reasons”, Icke also announced he was Ron DS 2024.
Coincidence? 😂😂😂😂
Think about these truths;
There are three Parties; Right, Left and Deep Staters (those that will say, do or be anything to have or hold power – why they (RINO’s) align with Leftists)
If DeSantis and Trumps position were switched, the Left would be doing everything in their power to bury DeSantis. If you think being Trump matters one whit, you are dumber than a rock.
Finding fault with any of the front of the pack Rightists (Jones, Beck, Anyone of them) and not Deep Staters only helps the Left.
Best Ticket for ’24 = Trump for Pres and DeSantis for VP. If they can get along the left loses the ability to focus on Trump and if anything happens to Trump, the lefts second greatest nightmare takes office. If Trump gets his 4 years, the possibility of a 12 year run for control of the Presidency exists. If Trump has a VP that is actually not a Deep Stater as the last one was, no telling what all they could accomplish. Letting DeSantis go after the Admin portions of all the Bureaucracy would seem to be a way to get the sludge out of the Deep State…..better than Trump alone and DeSantis brings his own crew to the fight. And it will probably take every single ounce of both of them to do it…..
The GOPe would use that to impeach Trump and install DeSantis.
That’s a mistake.
Best is Trump/Palin.
Dream come true for us, nightmare come true for them.
Never. She is a nobody loser dumb ass.
AMEN TO THAT!
HELL NO! Cannot think of anyone with WORSE JUDGEMENT than her. NONE of those she endorsed , except Trump.
She endorsed Carli Fiorina, who was McCain’s Protege and has PUBLICLY STATED the finest civilization the world has ever known was IRAN MUSLIM. (Speech for Hewlett Packard)
Nikki Haley, and so many many others. She COST the GOP some EXCELLENT Candidates who were ahead in races between RINOS and DIMS, before she endorsed the RINO in the race – I.E. Nevada/Harry Reid. The Rino won the primary and lost to Political brother Reid. And Palin was so proud of herself for all those endorsements.
The only reason Sarah doesn’t Endorse the Witch of Alaska is bcz she wanted THAT seat, for herself. And when she was in office, SHE BLEW it and quit when it got tough. Walked out mid-term.
You think she can handle the heat of a Trump Administration and the FIRE that comes with THAT.
She had the brains to agree to run with McCain and put him back in the running!
That alone is so super gross it makes me shudder for months when her name is mentioned.
dna, DeSantis is just a wedge issue, nothing more.
No one outside of the Trump genes is like or could be Trump. There is no one, no one—– fighting for “We The People” and our GREAT COUNTRY other than President Trump!
MAGA and roto root the SWAMP!
What’s really motivating the hyped push to get 43 year young Ron out of Florida asap?
Plus the kid hasn’t even finished his first four year term as governor of a red state with a republican controlled house and senate yet he’s being touted as a better slayer of DC and Global Swamp demons than President Trump? That narrative makes NO sense.
Why would Ron DeSantis want a position that is a pitcher of warm ____, when he can continue to polish his bona fides in Florida and be the easy front runner when Trump has cleaned out the Swamp and finished his Presidency? Trump has the nomination in hand right now, and DeSantis gains nothing by fighting him. Governor of Florida is a very potent seat of power whose owner can leverage right into the oval office when the time is right, but not in 2014. More likely in 2018.
Sorry. 2024 vs.2028
You’re not paying attention.
True.
Maybe Alex Jones is distancing himself from Trump on purpose because of his recent bad press? Just a thought??
Yes.
Agree. Anyone who listens to Jones won’t support a democrat regardless, and whoever supports RD over Trump in primaries will vote Trump in general election. If nothing else this allows Jones to keep his head above water.
…he’s been against Trump for a few years – long before his $49 million judgement. But his track record since the early days has been sketchy…he once tried to tell his audience that Hollywood was run by Saudi Arabian money…He brought on David Duke a few years back and got shredded by DD in what became known as the Jonestown Massacre…
Yeah, I see Jones endorsement of Desantis as helping Trump and hurting Desantis. The only influence would be on his hardcore followers.
You are so on target!
As for Paul Singer, I think he has an outsized influence on our devotion to Ukraine. He expected a big windfall when they got into the EU, no?
Trump and his Covid response says a lot. He got it wrong, many did, but then doubled down. He gets conned and makes it a virtue. Fatal flaw. DeSantis has more smarts, lines up with the establishment all the way. He’s George Bush redux. How hard is it to sound normal and tough minded against a democrat? The majority will go for DeSantis in a squeaker over Nuisance. Then what.
I believe in freedom of speech. Still, I absolutely do NOT like what you said.
Biden Didnt Win.
I largely agree with your assessment, especially Trump’s unwillingness to change course based on the advice of “experts”. However, comparing DeSantis to a Bush isn’t accurate. He held his positions against almost the entire country including the media.
You do remember that Little Ronnie did lockdown Florida don’t you?
Nope. And I live and work in the capital region. I worked every day of the fakedemic. And not from home.
Trump never imposed Vax mandates. He said it was a personal choice.
Forget trying to reason with these regret-Trumpers. Hopeless.
Please avoid repeating Ron hyping/Don dissing disinfo around their cOviD responses.
Perhaps start with checking out Sundance Twitter feed that’s a daily feature on rantingly.com. No Twitter account needed in order to read it.
One very eye opening Twitter account, @MAGAoriginalist, highlighted by Sundance, provides primary sourced pushback on the Ron hyping/Don dissing covid disinfo.
I was so impressed by @MAGAoriginalist that I wrote the account down and am sharing it far and wide.
I’m with Sundance; Truth Matters.
Also, putting REALS over idealistic feels matters if the goal is to crush the emotionally manipulative, mind poisoning Swamp demons who are desperately trying to crush President Trump, his Ultra MAGA supporters then all Americans who resist them.
Please pray for President Trump and his allies who are in the Swamp demons crosshairs. Then pitch in to help him succeed.
How many DAYS remain to defeat the democrat candidates in this wars 2022 election battles? 80 DAYS left?
No. You aren’t even playing checkers.
MAGA=Trump and Trump=MAGA. He is the only tool to dislodge the globalist. Every other is compromised. Pay no attention and stay laser focused.
Well said
Without a doubt. No backing up, no compromise.
Club for Growth fills my inbox with beg letters and ignore me when I try to unsubscribe. GRRRRRRR!
Send them to Garbage and BLOCK them.
I have always considered myself to have an accurate B.S.-meter, and Alex Jones always struck me as a manufactured huckster who made conservatives look bad by being associated with them.
Whenever I read through comments on CTH, I always immediately scroll past any that quote him or include an InfoWars link.
He’s barely a notch above Q in my book.
Someone posted a story done by Alex Jones that was never aired by ANY MEDIA or EneMedia outlests.
What was the story?
Video capture of OUR government Child Protection Services agent telling a child, a 13 or 14 year old girl, to work the streets (sex trade) if she wants to eat.
Where were ANY of the “news” outlets that covered this abuse by OUR government? Why did they REFUSE to cover it?
So yeah, not a Jones follower, but he does post actual stories based on factual evidence that is fully ignored by all the mass EneMedia Presstitutes of global mass hypnosis.
It’s been widely reported on BlazeTV.
And then he undermines he credibility by peddling vitamins and marketing himself to the Q-is-real crowd.
Feedback: repeating corporate media disinfo undermines credibility.
Only Trump himself has sustained and continues to sustain as much Global rage as the Voldemort letter.
Btw that letter, which of course is REAL, outed AJ, who is also “real”, in 2018 then encouraged people to remain FOCUSED and moving forward rather than getting emotionally hooked into destructive vendettas.
In order to gain TRUSTING followers, truth must be provided. How much truth is needed? It depends on the target.
Currently CNN viewers don’t require any truth. FOX viewers require some but are on a CNN death march to none.
AJ targets normie truthers so more truth is required in order to gain the level of truth needed to pull of pied piper ops.
The Voldemort Letter exposed AJ using primary sources. The Voldemort Letter also discouraged an emotional anti AJ vendetta.
Advice back then: Stay FOCUSEd. Time to move on.
Voldemort also advised readers to beware becoming an emotionally manipulated/mentally manipulated follower of ANYONE.
Instead, Voldemort advised learning how to research what others say, vet that research then guided readers as they learned how to remain dispassionately logical while using critical analysis to make best guesses about “reality”.
Voldemort warned against believing that guesses/opinions == proven facts.
Future events provide feedback which, if used, can improve future guesses.
AJ cultivates AJ dependent followers. Voldemort encourages independents who are always questioning and reassessing everything as new data becomes available.
Did the powers that be not see the CPAC straw poll? DeSantis could go the way of Pence if he crosses PDJT.
It’s monumental stupidity to pit them against each other. The GOP is run by morons right now and they don’t give a damn about us.
That’s exactly why the GOP wants them pitted against each other.
Pit them against each other to take out both? Then hype a “nice” guy who appeals to “suburban females” and “moderates”. A Youngkin kinda guy.
David Frum – “DeSantis is a regular politician”. We don’t want a regular politician.
David Frum is Class A neocon who penned the “Axis of Evil” speech for GW Bush. He is the Toyko Rose of the neocons and should have been sent to the Hague for crimes against humanity after the Iraq War debacle…along with Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld
Frum is intentionally framing DeSantis in a way to diminish DeSantis’ influence. He’s lying that he believes DeSantis a regular politician-he wants MAGA to see DeSantis that way. DeSantis isn’t Trump, but he’s certainly not regular and tens of thousands have moved to Florida because of that fact.
Signal not noise. Thank you SD @👍👍👏
And David French said he can’t support DeSantis. Big players are trying to manipulate us. This won’t be a popular view, but I look at numbers. Around 65% of college educated GOP primary voters have said they won’t vote for Trump in the primary, and 64% of GOP primary voters under 35 have said they won’t vote for Trump in the primary. A little over half overall said they want someone else. Those numbers aren’t going to get better and essentially rule out any prospect of a successful Trump candidacy. The Trump people know this, and that’s why we see all these recent anti-DeSantis messages. Nonetheless, if they both run, expect the primary campaign to be all about covid and Fauci, and Trump can’t win that argument. People whose kids were kept out of school as a result of idiotic covid policies, especially suburban women, will not vote for Trump, especially when the big money ads start. Look for clips of DeSantis saying he is going to keep schools open regardless of what the federal government says and Trump and Fauci on the podium together saying it’s a bad idea and Trump saying he could overrule DeSantis on this. I don’t think Trump is going to run. If I’m wrong, I’ll admit it, and I accord due respect to those who think differently, as I realize this isn’t a majority view here.
I have thought for a long time that Trump will need to come clean on the Covid/vax BS. If he does not he will be destroyed by any primary challenger who brings up the subject. If a challenger, like DeSantis, does debate it correctly it will be ugly for Trump.
Another potential problem, though not as large as the Covid/Vax, for Trump, IMHO, is that he oversaw the massive arming of Ukraine, 2017 through 2021. He also never stepped in to try and stop the slaughter of Russian speaking people in Eastern Ukraine. I could see a candidate like Rand Paul confronting him with that issue.
Little Ronnie locked down Florida as well. Stop rewriting history.
No, he didn’t. Stop lying.
Yes Ron did implement lockdowns. That’s well documented.
Please “stop lying” to yourself and others as soon as possible.
Btw being truthful about Ron does NOT mean the truthful people won’t vote to re elect Ron so he can serve as Florida’s governor for a second for year term.
In fact, truthfuls are the ones most likely to save Ron from being yanked out of Florida and/or destroyed by pitiless Swamp schemers.
Perhaps remember that when panicked, a drowning swimmer typically reacts by attacking the life guard. Death is only avoid if the panicked person can calm down and stop viewing the lifeguard as an enemy. Applicable? Useful? Hope so.
If calm returns, perhaps check out a documentation and a Florida resident’s twitter feed @MAGAoriginalist.
Facts: President Trump signed an EO affirming the right of each state to craft their own Covid response.
As President Trump pointed out, North Dakota is not even remotely like New York. Consequently, besides being arguably Unconstitutional, a “one size fits all” Presidential edict mandating that all 50 states have the same covid response would ignore common sense.
President Trump also publicly came out against draconian lock downs some governors implemented. Trumps comments triggered Media outrage. Did Trump back down? Nope.
Did Trumps courage and how well Trumps courage polled with voters Ron depends on help Ron to start becoming more reasonable? Likely. And, imp, that’s a good thing.
#Teamwork
#Captain+crew
I lived in a Democrat run state and I lived in FL during the Covid extravaganza 2019-present.
“Lockdowns” were not quite the same between the two states – by a long shot.
You’re the one equivocating.
He did. However he did not elevate Fauci. He does not continue to push the vax as being safe and he did not condone firing those who would not get the vax. Trump never put a stop to any of that.
There is NO viable primary challenger who has a better record than Trump on covid.
As President Trump warned at a rally in early 2020, when Covid was becoming fodder for Corporate Media psyops; covids like a bad flu but will be politicized into another “Get Trump” hoax.
As the now world famous saying goes, “Trump was right. Again”.
The last I heard from Trump on COVID Vax was that the “Vax never harmed anyone”.
You be the judge of that.
“The last I heard”.
Not being up to date may help explain currently flawed conclusion guesses.
Trump intentionally made that ” odd” assertion as a private citizen.
As a dispassionate anti jab “pureblood” I laughed out loud when troll Trump said that on Candace Owens show.
Bait offered. Bait taken. Hook, line and sinker. Mission accomplished.
Thanks to Trumps skillful trolling of the media, democrat, indepedent and apolitical normies who were starting to wake up and ask qurstions about the jab, couldn’t be nuked by TDS MOABs.
Florida Ron also said how safe the jab is even more recently and much more frequently.
Unlike private citizen Trump, Ron was holding a presser, standing being a podium adorned with the governors seal and citing statistics he has access to has Florida’s Decider In Chief.
“You be the judge of that”. Thank you for offering such helpful advice; its advice that’s good for both goose and gander. 😘
So Trump is publicly advocating the VAX, at least in the last five months or so, so he somehow is trolling the opposition? OK. Maybe. I don’t see the point but I am a simple man. When someone responds to a question about the VAX doing harm and the person replies: “The vax never harmed anyone.” I take it that the individual believes that is true.
My advice is for people to consider not taking the vax. Since I didn’t take the vax I would consider it advice that is indeed good for the goose and gander as well.
And as far as I am concerned, my advice is worth what you paid for it, hence the: You be the judge comment. I don’t engage in games or snaky comments, I meant what I said.
“If he does not he will be destroyed by any primary challenger”
Keep on dreaming, maybe it will work out for you this time.
Oh good grief. I voted for the guy twice. It would “work out for me” if he admitted the error and told the truth about the vax.
Not buying it. There are WAY more non-college educated people that will vote for Trump. The so-called college educated probably don’t vote at all. I certainly wouldn’t base any conclusions on that statistic.
I feel sorry for those parents who’ve ended up holding the bag for these empty vessels.
“Around 65% of college educated GOP primary voters have said they won’t vote for Trump in the primary, and 64% of GOP primary voters under 35 have said they won’t vote for Trump in the primary. A little over half overall said they want someone else. ”
Any citations for these statements?
I do not call myself a GOP voter anymore but rather a constitutional conservative and I am college educated and solidly in the PDJT camp
Respectfully digagree. DJT’s endorsements during the primaries show his strength throughout the country – if memory serves I think 85% of his endorsed candidates won against some crazy odds. For example who the hell every heard of Harriet Hageman before Jan 2022? And she defeated Liz Cheney! Ditto Kari Lake, Doug Mastriano, Joe Kent, Blake Masters..
Numbers don’t lie – as the coach Bill Parcells said “You are what your record says you are”…
As of August 20, Gateway Pundit reports President Trump’s endorsement successes as 209 t0 17:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/trumps-endorsement-record-now-209-17/
While you may be right, remember that the poll numbers are a designed result to create movement in a desired direction.
I’m sure those numbers you look at are as accurate as polls for the past couple decades.
Correction: De Santis “cant win” the Covid argument.
Tons of “compare and contrast” Don versus Ron videos and articles will CRUSH Ron or any prominent Ron hyping surrogate suicidally foolish enough to try to pit Trumps Covid responses against Rons.
Go to @MAGAoriginalist twitter account for a sample of what would be used. No Twitter account needed in order to read it.
Perhaps crushing De Santis, using covid bait which can hook poorly informed damaged emotionals, is the point?
Crush the leader of MAGA and the much hyped young MAGA heir apparent so that WEARY Republicans turn to what the Establishment will hype as a no drama, nice guy uniter alternative to Don AND Ron; a guy like Youngkin.
That pitch was used in 2020 to sell Establishment Joe so why wouldn’t the Swamp demons try the same pitch to sell an Establishment Republican in 2024?
Be careful what we wish for. Remember McCain and Obama. The MSM loved and elevated McCain during the Primary, once he was the nominee they ate his lunch! Same thing will happen here, and we will end up with Nusome or Cameltoe for 8 years! Trump is the only way for 2024!
Alex Jones was the one who red pilled me in the early 2000’s after 9/11. A lot of the things he railed about were on-point…but then he took a different tack and turned his show into 3 hour infomercial for vitamins. I used to post on his chat boards, but during his divorce I looked at what he was ordered to pay is ex in alimony and extrapolated his yearly income to be in the millions of dollars. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m ALL about capitalism, but to hear him whine and moan about how much it cost to broadcast his show seemed bogus. So when I questioned his income vs his claim to be near financial ruin, I was blocked from his chatrooms and that sealed the deal for me.
Haven’t listened to him in many years and his support for RDS means nothing.
“The answer to 1984 is $19.99 with free shipping”…LOL
Alex Jones is bombastic and difficult to listen to for long stretches of time. He has been ahead of the game in exposing the global tyranny and NWO.
I watched him claim (8/21/22) that he still supported Trump. However, he wants DJT to admit that Big Pharma was wrong.
I agree, but……
Trump never forced any citizen to lockdown or get vaccinated.
So—
Alex, Bannon (who is also raving about DeSantis), Charles Kirk, and the rest of the world can insert whatever —where the Sun don’t shine.
Contract Monkey Pox.
Change your pronouns.
Live your best life.
But— I stand by Donald John Trump.
Flaws and all—DJT or bust!
All of the turncoats can rot in hell.
I agree with most of what you wrote, but I really don’t hear Bannon raving about RDS. He gives him props for standing up to Disney and the wokeists, but that is deserved. Bannon is 110% on the Trump train, as are his frequent guests such as Epstehyn, Navarro and Posobiec
Yes but Bannon has also had Alex Jones on a lot and that is puzzling in light of Jones’ recent comments. Bannon needs to rethink his position,and do it quickly. One’s first impression of Alex Jones as a bellowing crackpot turns out to be accurate.
Bannon specifically has had AJ on (in my opinion) to really highlight his case from a 1A perspective and how he is getting completely hosed in an kangaroo court. I thought that rather than anything else Bannon and Navarro are about the only Trump 110% ers I really trust anymore…
Perfect people are hell to live with. 😒
Do these globalists really think the traditional splitter strategy will actually prevent MAGA candidates from winning seats in November?
Do they think we can be distracted by excessively early announcements for presidential candidates?
Do we see Ds already announcing their intent to run for the office?
I don’t.
But I do wonder if this current effort is supposed to be some sort of shiney object to prevent us from realizing that the current power holders are activiely moving to prevent a peaceful transfer of power to MAGA majority??
Watch the moving hand in your face while my other hand is sneaking around behind your back…..
I thought I liked DeSantis but always felt something off about him. Then I realized he is a lawyer and a politician and makes me feel like he is trying to sell me a collapsing condo with free gators, and lots of swamp.
I’ve held back from commenting on this posting for several hours, to watch with interest all the responses from the temporarily Sundance-starved acolytes. Our hard-working host should be allowed to spend a few hours with his family or otherwise away from the constant maelstrom of blood sport politics here, without many feeling suddenly hopelessly abandoned in a famine of thoughts.
That aside, here is my delayed response to the Alex Jones piece:
I don’t listen to Jones all that much. But I have listened to and watched him over the years. Enough to form a clear opinion. From a media perspective, Alex Jones is a far outlier, and not at all under the Establishment umbrella. Controlled opposition and psyop sources are not banned from all major social media platforms, most all mainstream media outlets, framed as a nearly insane pariah to be shunned, and financially oppressed into bankruptcy – as Jones has been. The Establishment just doesn’t operate that way. Yes, Jones is somewhat vulnerable to being ‘bought’ at the moment following some over-inflated lawfare results against him. But that is not what is happening now with him.
Most of Alex Jones’ presentation is his ‘schtick’, a matter of performance tone and style. He is a media performer, just like PDJT once was. And just like PDJT’s performance demeanor, tone and style, Jones can be very off-putting to pearl-clutchers not looking deeper into the substance of what he is saying.
And to anyone listening deeper past the screaming, Jones has been consistently correct about many fundamental global trends, ahead of almost everyone else. He was among the very first to warn of a deep state “coup” against PDJT … as early as November 2016. Most of the substance that he rants about between potion and pill ads is decidedly anti-Globalist, pro-Christian, and roughly aligns with America First core principles, fighting against a Godless, satanic elite.
Another tell about Jones, just as with Rush Limbaugh, are where they are/were physically rooted and operate from. Both have been kept outside the Establishment media fortresses of DC and NYC either by choice or by design, and outside the most intense influence those regions exert on its personalities there. Yes, Austin is now a liberal enclave. But Jones is a Texas native, and started there before it became that way. And he did not migrate to DC or NYC, to make far more money, as he once had the chance to do so.
That Steve Bannon recently allowed Jones on his show was a big breakthrough in clarifying the general battle lines between the Establishment and Patriot-aligned major media forces. Jones does not stand with Prager, Hewitt, Beck, Hannity and the Breitbart, Salem and Clear Channel robots. He stands much closer to Bannon, also with an independent platform. And he is often more speaking on the bleeding edge, where even Bannon is sometimes afraid to go.
Bannon declared the White House “lost” in 2017, and broke from Trump shortly thereafter as Establishment personnel infested the place. But Jones declared the “coup’ even earlier. And both were right.
That aside, Jones is an outlier, even more so than Bannon, and he tends to meander on the fringes around certain issues, sometimes aggressively so. The mRNA and other destructive vaccines have been a huge issue with him. Jones has been consistent from day one about what the scamdemic has been all about, and the hidden evils behind the vaccines being forced on humanity. He has differed from PDJT on this particular issue for a long time now. PDJT has taken a moderate view, allowing a more personal choice vs. mandates. Jones is completely unyielding on the dangers.
They disagree on one issue. And that is normal.
I think Jones is overreacting about his allegiance to Trump at the moment. Just as he always does. Again, style and tone.
And I think Sundance is overreacting to Alex Jones’ current position on the 2024 candidates.
Jones was never with Cruz as a national or global figure, and he will ultimately not stand with DeSantis. But it will be a tumultuous and loud ride with Jones until he gets there. And many, as always, will be offended by his loud hubris every step of the way …
… the same as many were and remain offended by Trump’s style. Forget the tone with Jones, just as we do with Trump. On the substance, Jones is much closer to Trump on the big global concepts. He just screams a lot more than most would like.
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Among the Establishment media hyenas, the real touchstone to watch is Levin. He is a complete Beltway fiction, originally a low-level underling from suburban Philly reeled in under Reagan’s nose, who has puffed himself into something else altogether, and is completely dependent on the Establishment publishing mills, to peddle his never-ending stream of pablum books (for those who cannot afford the boat cruise grifts), to support his now-cushy Beltway lifestyle far away from Cheltenham, PA.
Levin is presented as the fake ‘intellectual’ of the bunch, with his studio set a library of books, and called the “Great One” by his fellow Establishment mouthpieces (which is a profound insult to Jackie Gleason and Rush Limbaugh, who were the real Great Ones of their respective media niches).
The only thing great about Levin is the volume emerging from his big, loud mouth. Old Yeller. Yet people put up with his decrepit screaming night after night, and are simultaneously offended by Alex Jones’ screaming. Is it because they cannot see Levin’s arms flailing in his padded bunker as he screams like a maniac over the radio? Go figure.
The Establishment completely owns Levin as far as I’m concerned.
And Levin dutifully follows his Establishment instructions on who to back … and who to trash. Levin was among the most vicious attackers of Trump throughout 2016 (far worse than Beck). Almost violently so. It was vile. But he pivoted on a dime away from Cruz, and to Trump, as soon as Adelson, and others in the Beltway, gave the signal after the RNC. On a dime.
Watch Levin for where the Establishment is going. Not Alex Jones.
All the above is just my opinion, of course. And let Sundance have a day off once in a while without presuming the worst.
Very insightful post. Especially in regards to Levin being a loudmouth controlled opposition clown. Your take on Bannon is also on the money
Yes, a fine post. AJ is a larger-than-life figure, and not everyone’s cup of tea. He wins big, and he loses big. Gets many details wrong, but is usually right about the larger trends. He’s a little like Reggie Jackson: he can hit three homers on three pitches, or strike out in corkscrewingly spectacular fashion. Whatever he does, he does it BIG.
I’m a qualified fan. I also buy some of his products, which is his only constant means of support. He was the canary in the coal mine regarding online/social media banning. He’s had to stand up against unheard of pressures and real persecution almost alone. He is arguably the most slandered man on the planet, with the exception of Trump. His positions on Trump have tended to whipsaw around at times, but he has always come back.
Maybe this time is different. The case of Jones is, however, a bit more complicated than many here think. Jones has made a lot of sacrifices in his career when he could have sold out long ago. That long record of sacrifice does mean something. I would need to see his actual financials before drawing any conclusions.
It’s true that he’s caused a lot of his own trouble. It’s also true that he has a long record of personal sacrifice that’s cost him a lot. In that, he’s a lot like a former President we all know, love, and will continue to support….
Perhaps much hyped “sacrifices” leaders to far less hyped yet far greater rewards.
Once I had concrete proof that AJ knowingly and repeatedly LIED I stopped tuning in and instead started praying for him.
Now AJ is just another data point I monitor to gain Intel on the psywars and current psyops.
I monitor POSobiec for the same reason.
Limbaugh was an idiot.
Very good.
Based on my personal experience and research:
AJ/Infowars == Murdoch/FOX News.
Both use “truth” to create trusting followers who can be pied pipered at critical junctures because their “followers” trust them enough to go where they lead.
The difference is that Murdoch/FOX targets normie republicans while AJ/Infowars targets normie truthers.
As to AJ/Infowars much hyped ban that’s frequently cited as proof of AJs “trustworthiness”, I don’t agree that its proof.
Why? Just prior to the ban, AJ was outed by the chans for being a serial, intentional liar. Lots of primary sourced evidence was shared widely.
AJs ” truther” reputation was being damaged and he was hemoraghing viewers, money and influence. He was in a similar crisis to the one FOX was in after their 2020 election duplicity was exposed.
The oft cited and much hyped ban actually was used to “save” AJ. Comfy normies who wanted to continue being AJ followers were grateful that they could continue to rely on AJ for the “truth”.
I am voting for Trump, I appreciate all the things that DeSantis did in Florida during his term. If Donald Trump doesn’t run then I see no one other than DeSantis.
So far, the biggest problem I have with DeSantis was his support of the TPP But I wonder if he still maintains that position now that Trump demonstrated his economic policy a success?
If Don doesn’t run, God forbid, then one of his sons will run and finish their dads mission for him.
Fortunately they have their dads training, have been in the demons crosshairs since 2015 yet never abandoned their dad or his MAGA Mission, have access to their dads resources, networks and allies both here and around the world AND will have their dads core team to help them.
Trump and his core team has been working for YEARS to be prepped from day one for Trumps second term.
See the two part Jonathan Swan piece recently published by axios for a peek at what Trumps teams plans are. Jonathans article ONLY covers what is known via publicly available record “crumbs”.
Trump2024 or TRUMP2024.
Father or son.
One more term or two.
Four more years or eight.
DeSantis can be bought, Trump can’t
Exactly and that was one of the reasons I supported him in 2016 and one of the reasons the establishment can’t stand him.
Trump can be fooled by his ego. Which is the bigger problem? Not sure at this point.
You can say that about anyone, literally anyone. Can and Will are not one and the same.
Assessing, as in armchair psychology, that any action of President Trump is from his being fooled by ego, does not make it a truth or a reality.
To say so is to try to influence people into seeing things differently and through your negative worldview filter of President Trump? Good luck with that!
Projecting your ego on Trump?
Ironic comment.
“Fooled by his ego”.
An Armchair pretends to know Trump. A psychic? An insider ” familiar with Trumps thoughts”?
Perhaps “fooled by his ego” is projection. If so, once realized, projection can lead to invaluable insights.
Judge as you would be judged, dear judge. 😘
Sure is shaping up to appear that way !!! We now are aware and can adjust as needed .
I knew this would be a long thread because the hard core Alex Jones followers are lunatics. The think that man literally walks on water when all he really does is put one conspiracy theory after another out there and sees which one’s stick.
…oh I dunno…I’ve seen some frogs behind my house waving Rainbow Flags, so there’s that…lol
Suck it Alex. Trump 24 or America is finished.
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
Not sure but I thought there was a cap on that type of damage. That although the Jury awarded 40+ million the cap is around $700 to $800 thousand. This was in addition to the first $4+million. Is it possible this is a strategic move by Alex to influence Judge and Jury. In other words it would be viewed more favorable if he supported DeSantis verses Trump?
So they sued Alex for his claims during his show, but all main stream EneMedia are a protected class of propagandists?
That, by Thomas Jefferson’s statements of two sets of rules for the masses and the rulers, is tyranny.
Still waiting for proof it was NOT a red flag fraud, sham, and hoax as they destroyed all evidence under gag orders.
Follow up
DeSantis supporting Trump endorsed JD Vance plus some info on desantis:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/desantis-stumps-for-j-d-vance-in-ohio-launches-statewide-education-tour-during-busy-weekend_4678415.html
This is all that Little Ronnie is doing-supporting people that PDJT already supported and helped get into the position to win. Little Ronnie id doing nothing more than riding on PDJT’s coattails.
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Are you trying to get youself “moderated”?
I’ve long told all of you that Alex Jones is a scumbag.
All you need to know about a man’s character can be revealed by how he treats his wife. Alex left his wife for some floozy he employed. This is a man who has no honor. He does not keep his word. He does not stand by the vow he made before God.
Nevermind being a horrible interviewer, a hotheaded blowhard, and a fake tough guy with that stupid faux-growling voice who pedals rebranded elixirs to the unsuspecting/gullible. He makes our side look bad.
Also, Bannon has been tight with him lately. This is worrisome.
Now tell us how you feel about PDJT, who is now on his third wife?
Complete the circle, so we can see all of you.
Ah the old change the target ploy. Okay I’ll play.
Trump has not done the wife thing well at all. His wife by covenant would be Marla Maples, as Ivanka was a divorcee with a living husband so doesnt count. I have zero knowledge of how that all went down with Marla and Trump splitting.
If you are asking me to endorse Trump based on his marriage history you’ve got the wrong guy.
But, then again, Joe Biden homewrecked Jill Biden’s husband.
So….
Between the two I’ll take Trump, morally and otherwise.
I’m voting for a President not a priest.
What Jones did to his wife was straight up cruelty. He’s a charlatan.
Talk about moving the target. I wasn’t asking about the Bidens.
These are your standards.
Cognitive dissonance on display.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, chucklehead. I’m talking about Jones. You derailed to Trump so I’ve raised you with Pedo Joe.
The split between Trump and Maples pales in comparison to what “Dr.” Jill and Gropey Josef Stolen (D-Dementia) did to her husband. Same with the evil Jones perpetrated upon his wife. (Maples cheated on Trump, go figure.)
If the choice is the lesser of two evils as the meme goes, Trump wins by a landslide. The man did a great job as an Executive. Can’t say that about Biden* or Jones.
/Discussion
What’s with the juvenile name calling?
You call one person a scumbag, based on a sanctimonious character standard that you then refuse to apply to someone else who has also left his wife — someone else that you can’t afford to attack here.
If your only basis for calling Jones a scumbag is him leaving his wife, then you are the intellectual fraud.
We can ask Ivana’s ghost how she felt about Marla Maples.
Ivana was not Trump’s wife by covenant. So as far as marriages go, that wasn’t one in God’s eyes. I therefore disregard it. Ivana’s husband was still alive. She was committing adultery against him by being with Trump.
The only marriage that exists for Trump is his and Marla’s. All else is adultery.
As I said, I want a warrior not a priest and certainly not a fraud like Alex Jones.
The Gateway Pundit will never mention a word of this.
That’s why we are here. CTH is the top site for thinkers. GP is clickbait.
Dont like to see so many misled so I sometimes post SD’s words on the related articles on GP
That’s admirable.
GP?, or a group of neonazismorons on GP I was “debating”, had me listed as spam with Disgust years ago.
I found out and logged a complaint. I won and they removed the “SPAM” blockage.
All Disgust was opened up to me once again EXCEPT for the GP.
In all that time since I hardly use Disgust and never visit GP again due to their anti USA sentiment as they like liars and there is no truth in them.
Well, well. But rubio went down. Then cruz went down…if Ron continues to flirt with this scenario, he too will go down…IF Trump decides to run (and frankly, if he decides not to run, I would not blame him), Trump will be the nominee. He will win again (3rd time). If Ron is truly facilitating this b.s. he will never as success in the future as he is right now. Money.
But DeSantis is not. He is not running before 2028, a long way away.
This is all just an unfounded conspiracy theory. It’s very weird to see it on here.
Ron “is not running until 2028”.
So certain of the FUTURE based on what a savvy, ambitious young career politician has said in the past?
Or is this certainty about what WILL happen in the future based on more than a young politicians words? A crystal ball? Access to a time machine? 😘
SD says the club picks the candidates. So, if that is true, and I agree with SD, how is Trump going to be on the ballot if the club picks the candidates. The club “ain’t” picking Trump. So, it looks like we support the club’s candidate or sit it out? Someone tell me how Trump gets on the ballot as the POTUS nominee if the club picks the nominee. Both cannot be true at the same time.
Trump cant get on the ballot if “the club picks the nominee”
Binary thinking plus insufficient information/inaccurate information leads to inaccurate conclusions cloaked as questions.
As Christ pointed out, not all questions are sincere.
Some questions are self protective, defensive: deflections, snares….
And don’t forget the deep money on theDemocrat side that will push this as a way to split support in the GOP
Is it possible that Trump is not going to run and he’s going to put his support behind DeSantis? Trump says nothing.
Is it possible?
While supposedly ALL things are possible, in this case, hell will freeze over before President Trump puts “puts his support behind De Santis” 2024.
Since early 2021, President Trump has been signalling that he’s running. Since 2022 his signalling has become loud and very CLEAR. He is DEFINITELY running in 2024.
They only question remaining is when he’ll FORMALLY announce that he’s running. That decision will be made based on complex strategic calculations.
My guess, fwiw, is that he’ll wait until the last possible moment.
Did David Frum think that Biden was “normal”? Biden the corrupt child sniffer?
Here’s the bottom line…Trump became POTUS and took action to make my life better. Therefore, I have all the reason I need to believe he would do the same again. Alex Jones and Ron DeSantis have not done a thing for me, so I owe them nothing. I’m voting for Trump if I have to write his name in and anybody who doesn’t like it can kiss my ass.
I love Trump and as my governor, I love DeSantis. that said, Trump has been taking ALL THE ARROWS aimed at me and my family as well as my country. If you can turn your back on the the guy taking the arrows, you are a fake piece of shiite IMHO.
Don’t get distracted by the sparkly media ball. The real battles are at the local level.
“The real battles”
In 80 DAYS the very real election battles are over. Then the very real consequences will start.
Positive ? Negative? With 80 DAYS remaining, consequences can’t yet be calculated.
Please. Focus.
Roger Stone is not a good guy. Alex Jones gave him a platform to bash and sabotage Corey Lewandowski. Roger Stone is the reason why Paul Manafort and his problems got inside Trump world and did so much damage. Desperate scumbag can go bankrupt.
Alex Jones is correct about Trump and his deception about the covid jabs. I’m also unhappy about Trump’s refusal to help or even acknowledge the prisoners of Jan 6. And don’t get me started on those pardons. DeSantis has been vocal against the jabs. That is huge to me.
“Trump’s refusal to help or acknowledge the prisoner’s of Jan 6.” I don’t know what you’re talking about here but I believe you are dead wrong about Trump not saying anything.
And I don’t see any deception on Trump’s part about the vaccine. Did he screw up hiring Fauci and scarf lady? Sure, but I believe Trump thought the vaccines would help. Matter of fact DeSantis said the same thing about getting vaccinated…go back and listen to his statements. He’s probably vaccinated himself.
The bottom line is Trump is the only true outsider, never being a part of the DC cesspool. DeSantis cannot say this…To each his own but you either want the true MAGA or a fake substitute for it. Have you ever heard DeSantis speak out about trade?
Hmm
“ They never talk about the crowd.” For the first time, the Former President spoke about the events of January 6th. “They only talk about the people who walked down to the capitol. They never talk about that crowd. I believe it was the largest crowd I ever spoken before,” Mr. Trump said.
He defended the protestors, insisting many of those arrested are political prisoners. “January 6th has become the Democrats excuse to an unprecedented assault of civil rights and liberties. An appalling persecution of political prisoners.”
Hmmm.
“ Trump told the crowd: “We will, while we’re at it, demand justice for the January 6 prisoners and full protection of their civil rights. Like was received by ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter, who murdered people throughout our country.”
Pocket pardons for his loyal followers were EXPECTED!
His son in law got lots of pardons done that should not have been. Also, no Assange! That is unforgiveable.
Bitters,
That is not good enough. Trump must tell people that the vaccine is not a vaccine and it is KILLING and MAINING people. It is the bioweapon. He must!
And his few quotes you have up there on Jan 6th is pretty sparse. And when did he say those things? Recently?
“Alex Jones is correct”
signals the beginning on a DisInfo attack on the hearts and minds of readers.
Fortunately a warning was given.
Notice how scripted the DisInfo War attacks are and how untrue.
Hopefully people will be inspired to pray for AJ, his employees and especially his followers.
Hold it. Just a thought. Whether valid or not, Jones is regarded in the mainstream as a whackob. Does his endorsement actually help or hurt Desantis.
People’s internal motivations are hard to see! External motivations are apparent, out in the open. Any and all motivations can be judged by outcome, were the motivations of a selfish nature or self-interest. We all have self-interests, that is why I voted for Trump. It benefited me and everyone else, it was in my self-interest to do so.
I’m in a wait and see for 2024. All the talking head will not convince me who to vote for…
I will say, age does matter. As there is a beginning age that a person can run for President, there should be an age that a person reaches they cannot. I believe this because of Biden and Reagan.
Age is a good point. I’m loathe to vote for someone who is basically a Millennial – DeSantis is 43 the oldest Millennial is 42 this year.
As someone Gen X, we have never had a president or speaker of the house, etc. I’m not ready to skip to Millennials.
Biden is a silent as is Pelosi etc. – I’m not worried about Trump whose a Boomer – I’m refusing to vote Millennial on principle.
AJ has plainly said the reason for supporting D and not T was T has not come out against the COVID vacs.
AJs suddenly against Trump, the person who woke the world up to the Globalist threat that AJs always ranting about. The person all famous Globalists still say is the NWOs most dangerous threat who must NEVER be allowed back in the WH???
Why is AJ now against Trump? AJ tells his followers its because “T has not come out against the COVID vacs”.
Instead AJs now supporting a 43 year old politician, Floridas Governor Ron.
Has Florida Ron praised and hyped the vaxx as governor? YES. Has R “come out against the COVID vacs”? NO.
Why is this only a demand AJ expects from private citizen Trump? Why does AJ still support a governor who is still supporting the COVID vacs???
Perhaps the reasons AJ is giving his followers aren’t the REAL reasons?
Very strange. Here in Palm Beach County Republican Executive Committee, we are all in for President Trump.
DeSantis 2028 makes sense. It is good that DeSantis is a back-up in the event that something happens to President Trump. However, as long as Donald Trump wants to run, he will get 100% support from PBC Republican party and donors.
Trumps backups/Swamp Insurance == His sons.
I do not know what RDS did for summer jobs in high school.
I do know that for his entire adult life RDS has lived on government paychecks.
I also know that RDS is doing in Florida many things similar to what DJT says he will do in Washington D.C.
But compared to what the evil bureaucrats put Trump thru, RDS is getting a cakewalk. Why?
I believe it is because the evil federal bureaucracy and their minions in the several states know that RDS won’t fire them all.
I believe DJT when he says FEDGOV bureaucracy will be downsized, revamped and modernised.
If FEDGOV bureaucracy is allowed to metastasize as it is now, Constitutional Law is toast.
It really is that simple. Anybody who has a job with today’s FEDGOV (in any capacity) should be ashamed of themselves. They are working for a totally corrupt, absolutely evil enterprise whose goals are despotism and tyranny. Especially the mid-wits at I.R. effin’ S.
DeSantis is a fool. He will end up suffering the same fate as Pence – used and discarded.
Poor Pence. If he had supported Trump, he’d be the next presidential nominee.
Okay, I love SD and CTH is my go-to every day, first thing. But please! I am having real trouble with the DeSantis-bashing. As a resident of Florida for nearly five years, I saw how we came within a whisker of having a crack addict as a governor. Then how we made it through the scam-demic with a roaring economy. I am terrified by the clueless Lefties moving into this beautiful state every day. Keep this bashing up, and we will be divided and get stuck with that horrible recycled snake, Charlie Crist. I am really struggling here! Can we just stop already?
No we can not stop.
By definition DeSantis is scum. He is a politician.
Trump was not a politician and got savaged by the GOP and democrats and media and people like you.
I, here and now, vow to never vote for DeSantis.
DeSantis isn’t even the slightest threat to Trump getting the 2024 nomination. None. Zero. I don’t believe for one minute DeSantis is going to run, he knows he can’t win…
The corruption is vast and tragic
DeSantis can’t draw in independents, dems, never-voted, disenfranchised republicans, and republicans.
END OF STORY!
DeSantis has no philosophy except tyranny.
Game, set, match!
We have 2 years to go before the POTUS election. In politics that is a loooooooong time. Much can and will happen between now and then. I am not getting too excited about any of this right now.
So in the meantime we must elect a Republican House and Senate to stop Biden’s agenda.
The Republican party handed the house to the democrats in 2018, so they could block Trump and throw shade on their treason. They installed Biden in 2020 for the very same reason. The Republican party is not, and has never been what it pretends to be. You will not win this war fighting by the enemy’s rules.
If defeated, he’d go peacefully.
If Frum is correct, DeSantis is McCain / Romney redux. Exactly the kind of guy that Frum would crawl through miles of broken glass to vote for. In the case of DeSantis, I’m still in the evidence gathering stage of the process I use to vet candidates who I feel have a chance to earn my vote. Maybe he will pan out, maybe not. In the meantime, I have an alternative to pose as Trump’s running mate in 2024: Devin Nunes. Is there any connection to that and why he chose and was chosen to be the CEO of Trump’s new social media outfit?
…Isn’t Nunes from California? If he still resides there, he brings nothing in terms of the Electoral College as CA is finished for Repubs…on that note RDS brings nothing either as FL is both Trump’s home state as well as RDS…probably needs to focus on candidates from more of a purple state…Congresswoman Boebert?
How bout Marc Robinson LT. Gov NC.?
I like him, on the surface. Not sure if he has the experience or the right backrgound.
Secret Societies, did a deep dive bc knew ‘something was wrong’. Voted for him but not this time. St. Elmo from Yale, Skull and Bones (had his name removed) 2022, Pilgrim’s society, NOPE, no more Secret Society people in elected offices at any level. Grew up in it and it is HORRIFIC…. i’ll leave the vote blank bc the other guy, Crist, well, we know for decades what he stands for. Praying people, please pray for FL.
Chip Roy (Texas)
hell no
Chip Roy thinks it is “biblical” to loan money at interest.
Of the 535 in elected office, the now resigned Devin Nunes was one of about 5 in that swamp of corruption in D.C. who actually honored his oath of office and deserved the respect of U.S. citizens.
Something doesn’t add up:
ALEX JONES said he gave a 30 minute talk against vaccinating children and the MSM/Corporate Media took a 30 second clip of that and edited it down to make it appear like he was endorsing DeSantis over Trump. See video below: (@time=1hr, 25m, 26s)
THE ALEX JONES SHOW
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GYVWi27sLES9/
Jones disputes the entire thing and says he is 110% behind Trump.
Mike Pompeo will be Trumps running mate in 2024