Earlier today, during a press conference the Director of Texas DPS, Steven McCraw, admitted the obvious. It was the “wrong decision” for responding police officers not to go into the Uvalde school classroom where the active shooting suspect was located. The decision to wait was made by the local police chief. WATCH:
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Full Press Conference Below.
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the “ so called “ police chief , no real experience / a float along get along career kind of guy , starting as , ironically a 911 operator in 1993 – Hometown person , a politically friendly appointment through networking Town leaders, just guessing . I hope resigns in disgrace and doesn’t pull a CNN crying jag > I think beyond that , he will never be forgiven by that small town – terrible
the exact thing I think when I see a FEMALE Black PC….they are a diversity hire so the woke crowd can demonstrate their compliance
Val Demmings
Wonder who ordered him to stand down?
Exactly! … This entire situation gets worse by the second.
We now know local police did nothing for over an hour – with some police saving their child … any classmates?
We now know even Border Patrol waited 30 minutes before acting.
We now know the FBI knew the murdering demon made school threats 2 days before the slaughter.
We now know one off duty Border Patrol officer grabbed his barber’s gun, got to the school, saved his daughter and her class mates … while cops kept parents from rescuing their children … how/why was he allowed into the school?
Where/why did the murderer steal the vehicle? … how/where/why did the murderer first interact with the Border Patrol?
Who told the Chief to lie to the Governor … while Beto was performing … WHO WAS REALLY IN CHARGE?
From other sources I saw on Gab, apparently Ramos was communicating on Discord with the Buffalo shooter. Also seeing hints that they were groomed on Discord by FBI agents. I can’t personally vouch for this information. I’m just putting it out there in case anyone else wants to go looking.
Office Tatum has a deep dive on this horrific shooting spree. He believes the officers were not cowards and provides the evidence to prove it. I am fearful we may never find out the whole truth. I wished I had withheld my earlier comments until more evidence had been provided. Please pray for these families. Advocate for school personnel to be armed.
DNC op, obviously
And how much he was paid to participate in the false flag?
All hat and no cattle and little kids paid a price…….. awful..
It wasn’t wrong.
It was fkin deadly!
Those poor children. RIP
When someone steps into the position of police officer/deputy sheriff they should know the dangers that come with it.Coming from this background i knew that I might not have made it back that night but this is what I was called to do.We would have active shooter drills so we knew of the risks of injury and death was always possible.We realized this is what we were trained to do and realizing these were the children of our families,friends and neighbors gave us more of a reason to respond as safely but as quickly as possible to save precious young lives from being taken.I learned how to pray every day for safety and protection over the schools,community and my fellow officers.We need to pray for men and women that put themselves in harms way every day that protect our children and our communities.Until you are confronted with one of these situations you don t know what you are all about,but thank God Almighty that he kept me in His hands when going into dangerous situations.
Sounds as if you are experienced and successful.
Good.
We need more like that.
What would you do if they told you to stand down as kids were being shot?
I would say I’m willing to take the chance as opposed to you officer. A loud f… you would preface or follow the comment.
I would have gone in, anyway. They were defenseless targets. They are children for God’s sake. Nothing could have kept me from going in after my children, except a bullet.
Kind of stirs up a reality of what would happen if govt decided to take out Americans- & the military were told to stand down.
Doesn’t look real promising for We the Unarmed People.
Question. We’re there windows or was this an interior class with no windows? I keep hearing they were waiting on body armor…? What dept. doesn’t provide level IV armor for their officers? Even if the dept. Didn’t the individual officers should have purchased themselves. Most depts. don’t issue guns to their officers either, but they all seem to have them, don’t they? Just a thought. They have flash bangs why didn’t the breach and toss in a flash bang? Were they afraid of hitting a kid with the flash bang? If windows were present, that would have been better. Toss it through the window and while the dirtbag was distracted, ventilate him
It’s a war out there. We better act appropriately…
I would lose my job as a police officer, but I would be a Hero to all the kids that lived, and their parents and the town. I would NOT stand down, sorry but when you have a spine you use it, if you don’t, you stand down, just saying. I can ALWAYS get another job.
That would be an illegal order and I would violate it. Afterwards I would hand in a resignation and hope for the best, but plan for the worst.
This whole ordeal smells to high heaven and does not add up! Something smells in Denmark and I can smell it in Pa.
You don’t have to be a psychic to predict this will be the summer of the 2A gun grab. None of it is organic. All of it is orchestrated.
I guess we will never hear the truth because all we have now is FAKE NEWS.
NOT STAND DOWN!!!!!
Firefighters do it every day, right? That is: the prospect that any given day they may end up on the wrong side of a collapsed wall, etc., etc.
I don’t get it…
I am betting they were told to stand down so more carnage was created. They take the heat (as they should, that is a morally repugnant order) and the plotters stay clean and out of the limelight.
Cowardice. there now you get it.
firefighters actually suffer a mortality rate on the job 7 X as high as LEO
All emergency responders have procedures they follow for their own safety, as well as for the safety of others. Dead emergency responders and civilians are no good to anybody else.
If a building is burning out of control the firemen do not just barge into the inferno or -God forbid- allow civilians inside to have a look around.
The ENEmedia drumbeat here is disgusting. They are treat these incidents like their movie of the week. Meanwhile, none of us look any deeper to see what the left hand was doing while the right hand started the fires.
Mitch was all set to sign “bipartisan” 2A legislation restricting our right to bear arms against a tyrannical government, just like their poison death shot was patented well before the Covid-19 PLANdemic ever took place.
The US government sets up false flag events to secure public sympathy for their coming gun grab. Prove me wrong.
And by the way, I now know two people in a week’s time, both in their 50’s, that just happened to die in their sleep.
Just another sheriff Israel
Looking death squarely in the face is NOT for kids! When I took that oath and obligation 50 some years ago, I knew deep down I was going to S.E. Asia! I went on MY terms!
Thank You for your service.
So many coincidences in all of this it makes you wonder what really happened.
I doubt we will ever know the truth.
Rest In Peace Little Innocents.
Guaranteed we will never know the truth.
Like the Las Vegas shooting?….
Like fledgling serial killers, my guess is that the Deep State monsters attempted to engage the college crowd in their anti-gun propaganda campaign. They funded, trained and armed their goons to “shoot up” concertgoers around the world, including that Vegas massacre.
When these efforts didn’t move the needle fast enough, they then turned their attention to schools, first taking care to enact laws and lock-down drills that ensured students and teachers are sitting ducks for their continued terror campaign.
The UN’s Great Reset/ New One World Order is here, and it has been decades in the making.
There are no coincidences.
They had to wait for enough to be killed, they didn’t want to interrupt to soon! Fing cowards!!!!!
Let’s see:
THESE PEOPLE KNOWINGLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEATH OF OUR MOST CHERISHED CITIZENS. THROW THE BOOK AT THEM AND LOCK THEM UP!!!
Please do not 👍 my comment anymore. While the facts appear to be correct, this comment was written while I was angry and the comment about them knowingly contributing was way too harsh. Having said that, they do need to be held responsible..
I’m sorry but police are not the marines, soldiers or trained reconnaissance combat mission operators. So we are blaming police officers for not going into a “war zone” with an unknown situation and an active shooter now?
Perhaps the swat team should have been better trained and sent it earlier. I think everyone second guessing after the fact and blaming the police is shameful.
Most police officers are not swat team trained. So while this is tragic it is not the police’s fault or as if it is the guns fault.
It is also a small town wonder what the size of their police force even is? esh
Yes because that is their job.
If they weren’t willing to do that then there were plenty of other career opportunities (but few with the cushy pension after twenty years).
I posted this upthread but check out these LAPD officers pulling an injured man out of a crashed airplane just a second before it was hit by a train. I sincerely doubt they had any “training” for this but they are real men who did what they needed to do without a moment’s hesitation. It comes with the turf.
History is full of people that reacted and responded when people need help, it is what you do. You do not stand around listening to children scream while you are armed and wearing a flak vest, you just don’t. Cop or not. They deserve every bit of bashing they are getting.
I give police quite a bit if leeway, but not on this. Training be damned…grown ass men were standing outside a building where they knew kids were being shot, bleeding out or dead. For an hour. The final slap in the face was the yellow bellied audacity of these same cowards tasing or taking down citizens who were trying to go into the building.
And don’t even go there with “following orders”. That’s a disgusting and deadly order to follow while innocents are dying.
No excuses. Totally disgusting on a number of levels.
After WW-II, we hung German generals and German privates for “just following orders”. Nuremburg established the principle that there are some orders you must not follow.
Sadly, there were only 12 people hung at Neurenberg. Another 1 committed suicide. Have forgotten what happened to the 14 person sentenced to death. Probably died before he could be hung. Many others who were given long prison sentences served far less. Neurenberg trials gave light to a lot of atrocities committed but sadly not enough people were sentenced to death , but you are right about the following order excuse. It did not save them. Pray and pray more
Our Gubermint brought the rest of the Nazis here to build rockets and such.
There are children there. Shot. Bleeding. Dying. Children!! Innocent children. And the men PAID $$$ handsomely … to keep them safe … DO NOTHING. They save no lives. They likely COST lives.
Exactly. Middle age women with bare hands would have gone in so this had to have been ordered.
Sorry, (not to you, but to others who say this) I don’t even buy that the cops were cowards.
But corrupt, or ordered to “let” a crisis occur is more like it.
No grown man with a gun lets a school get shot up, this isn’t a “mistake” or “normal” or such.
Those women would be mowed down and do no good. I completely agree with ridiculing the police’s decisions but the notion of allowing the parents to go in would just result in most if not all dying trying to breach the room where the shooter would just point his gun at the door and empty his mag.
You’re on point. Very on point.
Apparently, one of the mothers DID go in and get her child. They both made it out alive.
Shhh.. Don’t burst their bubble. This is the TV movie of the week. Haven’t you watched Law and Order? /s
A war zone of one against many. Ok!
There are nine police officers in that town.
I am in California. in a small town. One of my boys is a firefighter, good with a gun. If he and his team were there, I do not think they would stand idle while shots were fired in a school. Firefighters see all sorts of hard things and are always there to help.
I don’t get this situation in Texas.
You don’t get it because the story we are getting isn’t true and doesn’t make sense. In other words, corruption and intent made them want this event to happen and if anything the orders were to make sure it did.
I agree. We are tearing each other apart. Let’s not forget the POS shooter is where the blame belongs.
Had the police done their job, the POS shooter would have not killed 19 children.
Maybe, but to believe he acted alone, is pure ignorance.
This has all the earmarks of a false flag to flame the gun confiscation the UN wants.
No we are not tearing each other apart, we are demanding accountability. Keep in mind that not only did the Uvalde cops refuse to go in, but then they blatantly lied about their actions for two days. It’s only coming out now because smart people saw through the BS and asked hard questions.
We can blame the POS shooter and also recognize the cops didn’t do their job and then lied about it. Life is a not binary black and white choice.
There’s a big difference between hero cops like those in the LAPD airplane rescue above and CYA bureaucrats that lie to the people to hide their misdeeds. None of us should mindlessly “back the blue”, respect must be earned. Those LAPD cops sure have mine.
Further up in this thread you implied that risking their lives to save others, in this case the Uvalde school children, was the “duty” of the police officers.
Then you provided the example of the LAPD officers risking their lives to save the guy in the airplane.
You called the LAPD officers “hero cops.”
What constitutes a hero?
Going above and beyond the call of duty?
If it’s their “duty” to risk their lives to save others, then can what they did actually be called heroic?
Aren’t they just doing their duty?
And, what about the other cops that day in LA who didn’t have to respond to a life-threatening call during their shift, yet did their duty?
Are they heroes too?
I’m not trying to be argumentative and I’m certainly not singling you out specifically, Jeff C.
It’s just that your comment encapsulated something that many people here have expressed in one form or another, which is the question of what constitutes a police officer’s duty.
I agree with you that the LAPD cops acted heroically.
However, I humbly disagree with you that police officers must earn respect.
If the expectation is that they’re getting paid to risk their lives then I believe that the respect should be given, until they act in a manner undeserving of that respect.
“if the expectation is that they’re getting paid to risk their lies then l believe that the respect should be given,”
You contradict yourself, i.e. Is it not then their duty?
The seeming contradiction is what I’m inquiring about.
How can society call something both heroic and a duty of the job at the same time?
I think we might be splitting hairs here which is fine as this is an emotional topic.
Police officers are paid to do a job, that job includes risking their lives to help others. Period, end of story. I’m not sure I could do it but that’s why and I didn’t become a cop. It’s also why I’m still working long after most cops would have retired with a fat pension.
These aren’t civil service hack jobs, but a noble calling. The video of the LAPD cops was meant to show an example of guys who get what their job means and came through when it mattered. Does that mean all LAPD are heroes? Of course not, there’s bad apples in every bunch.
The most damning thing about the Uvalde cops is not that they refused to go in which is horrible enough. The worst thing is that they lied about virtually everything for two solid days. Not only did they screw up badly (for whatever reason) but then they tried to evade responsibility for what happened and pretend they actually were the heroes. Seriously, this is so messed up it boggles the mind.
Yet there are people on our side that will continue to “back the blue”, give them “the benefit of the doubt”, and repeat mindless clichés like programmed robots. That’s one of the main reasons our country is falling apart, no one is held accountable for anything. I’m not aiming this at you, but explaining why I’m angry about this, and judging by the comments here, I’m certainly not alone.
When I say cops must earn our respect I mean that they don’t get it automatically just because they have a badge and a gun. Respect in any profession is earned by doing your freaking job. If you don’t have what it takes then get out and do something else before you get someone killed. This is not hard.
In an utterly predicable development, it’s now coming out that it was an open secret in the legal community that the Uvalde department had a reputation for petty corruption and mismanagement. Well knock me over with a feather. Despite this I’m sure there will be plenty of people that claim we must “back the blue”. No, we should back good cops who do their jobs and expose those who don’t.
I share your anger.
What worries me is that we, as a group, might allow that anger to cloud our judgement about critical institutions like local law enforcement.
In his Letters From Phocian (1784), Alexander Hamilton wrote,
“Nothing is more common than for a free people, in times of heat and violence, to gratify momentary passions, by letting into the government, principles and precedents which afterwards prove fatal to themselves.”
Over the last couple of decades, we’ve seen an increasing push to federalize our state and local police agencies.
Almost immediately after the police failures in the Uvalde incident were revealed, reporters started asking why the Feds weren’t in charge at the scene.
I predict there will be calls for uniform federal guidelines for response to such incidents in the future.
But, we can’t protect and retain control over our local law enforcement if we don’t first have a clear understanding of their duties.
The expectations we place on our police officers cannot conflict with our fundamental beliefs when it comes to freedoms such as an individual’s right to life, property, etc.
For example, does an individual surrender their right to life when they become a police officer?
Or, are they merely signing on to do a job (enforce the law) and they, like people in many other professions, accept that it comes with some risks?
Knowing that death is a risk of the job is one thing and agreeing in advance to lay down your life for another are two different things.
No one can really know whether they are capable of laying down their life for another until actually confronted with it.
One individual may think they could never do it, yet could, while another might believe they would definitely do it, yet would run (or stay in the hallway) when actually confronted by a deadly threat.
Are we being realistic in our expectation that police officers sacrifice their lives for those in need, simply because we pay them, and are THEY being realistic with both us and themselves when they agree to take the job, perhaps believing but not really knowing whether or not they can fulfill that expectation?
We may think we’re paying for people who will sacrifice their own lives for others, but I think what we’re actually paying for is the HOPE that those people would act heroically when the time comes.
Your points are valid and well-reasoned. No LEO wakes up in the morning thinking, “Today I will die a hero.”
Of course we ALL wish to preserve our own lives, yes, even in the course of our jobs. Some are better trained and equipped to handle emergency situations than are others. We therefore call in ‘special’ forces to deal with these situations.
There is a misconception here that heroes are merely hired hands, and there is also the lie that all hired hands are heroes. The truth is that we all try to do our jobs. But there are some, trained or not, that when called upon, will give the ultimate sacrifice.
Heroes are exceptional.
We should be grateful for our heroes, not demanding of them. Sitting in the safety of our homes as keyboard warriors, and with the lying, FAKE NEWS ENEmedia egging us on, that is both tacky and presumptuous. And WRONG.
I see a trap, and I think you just nailed it: ENEmedia drumbeat for a Federal takeover of our beleaguered local police.
You think we have troubles now? Wait til the Feds roll in..
That’s not even the question. It is the moral duty of every person, man or woman, police or non-police, to save the lives of others if they can. The Bible says something like “If you know the right thing to do and don’t do it, you are guilty of a sin.”
If we’re each morally obligated to risk our own life to save the life of another, then how can it be said that we have a right to life?
Doesn’t that make the life of the rescuer subordinate to the life of the person in need of rescue?
Keep backing Cowardice, it looks good on sickos.
This site needs a thumbs down button.
Mistear`s mom gets a thumbs down from me.
How much training did the border patrol agent have? He borrowed a shotgun and got it done. No excuses for these cowards. None. I hope the town shames them into oblivion.
Lots. Lots of training, plus experience arresting literally thousands of people each year, arresting sometimes dozens of people all alone, with the nearest other agent possibly miles away. Drug mules, guides, and cartel security guys guarding the drugs. A seasoned BP agent has dealt with far more than a typical small town police officer….in general.
This incident illustrates it perfectly.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna30941
Nonsense. There were 19 of them in the hallway against 1 18 year old killing kids. There is no excuse for the lack of initiative which, once taken, proved what could have been done forty five minutes to an hour earlier. Professionals are to be held to standards of competence and judgment in accord with their status. You don’t get a pass because of “they were only” this or that. This is a massive failure but I fear it speaks to a wider issue of character, culture and competence in the US. I hope not, but I fear so.
I especially agree with your last 2 sentences.
We are blaming human beings for not protecting those who cannot protect themselves.
This is outrageous. There is not ONE reason worthy of comment, for them not going in- IMHO-
The unspeakable occurred=
We, the soon to be, Unarmed People of the US will be in the same position if we don’t stand up now.
Something smells really bad, & we best find the source & remove it.
John 15:13 “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends”
No excuse, ’nuff said
Lesko Brandon FJB
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The have training for situations like this. This isn’t a new occurrence. When I was a teacher at a tiny little private school in 2004 we had active shooter drills.
Stop making excuses for incompetence, eventually it starts costing lives.
Did those active shooter drills involve sitting in the corner waiting to be massacred? If so, I would change it up. But that’s just me..
I read the police force is 4 men——I CHIEF and 1 detective
Correct me if I am wrong but I saw many US Marshels with full gear and ONE who seemed to be shouting orders
to the parents outside the entrance! It makes me wonder if (since they are feds) -did they take over control———–like in most other situations??????? And where did they come from——-AND WHERE IS THEIR “SPOKESPERSON NOW!
This is ALL they are there for. What are you talking about? School shootings are something they don’t “train” for? Huh? How many of them were there? All due respect, but that’s utter, utter nonsense. Craziness. I’ve never heard of a person who would be ok with THEIR child being murdered by an active shooter (and this was a kid, but what if it WAS a terrorist or marine, STILL the ONLY thing they are there for is THIS). And there were like over a dozen or something?
AND they stopped parents from going in to do their job?
They should have the firing squad turned on them. And to be clear, this looks like the typical kook they (feds) let do this in order to scapegoat a group (MAGA or whoever) and then “solve” the crisis with a boat load of gun nabbing and weakening the law abiding.
Where I live our SMALL TOWN police department practices twice a year what do if there is a shooter. You know why? Because we have a competent police chief who is 58 years old and has been a cop all his adult life. A school shooting is one of the many things that police now deal with and their is no excuse to not be prepared in today’s time.
Thank you mistear’s mom
If you can find it see Tyrus on Gutfield today imo had the best and most levelheaded and thoughtful response!
Then the freaking coward SHOULD NOT TAKE THE JOB OR OATH! Your post sickens me as much as the cowards in the news above. WOW, just freaking WOW.
I’m former law enforcement and we were trained and told to go in during active shooter situations when we had at least two officers on scene. The old protocol prior to Columbine was set up perimeter and wait for SWAT. Following that, departments around the country changed their procedures (not all, unfortunately). The biggest screw up here is the chief’s apparent order to treat this as a barricaded suspect (hostage negotiation, standby, etc) rather than an active shooter. It’s true that patrol officers don’t have the firepower or equipment (heavy armor, shield, flashbangs, etc) to breach and clear a room but even so, we got active shooter training to deal with this sort of thing.
DUUH it is LEO’s job to PROTECT and Serve…while not fully aware of the TACTICAL situation they WERE aware of the setting……WHO with any conscience ABANDONS protection of the most vulnerable….your active defense of their weak excuses shows your own mindset
Huh? A 18 year old with a couple of rifles is a war zone?
There were 19 officers even more heavily armed than the shooter, picking their noses out in the parking lot, abusing parents who were willing to go in unarmed to get their kids, since the police were doing nothing, listening to shots being fired and children being murdered.
The local sheriff who ordered the stand-down had to have known that children were being murdered while they waited, since a child got a dead teacher’s cellphone and was on 911 talking with an operator, while more children were being murdered. I find it impossible to believe that this information was not relayed by 911 to the local sheriff in real time.
Allegedly the woman who was tased and then handcuffed, once she was uncuffed, did exactly that. She supposedly snuck into the school and got her children out unharmed.
Police ARE trained for these types of situations. I have relatives in law enforcement who teach classes to other officers for this kind of thing.
This was a false flag and a bunch of people were likely paid a lot of money to allow this mass murder to occur and to cover up the crime.
It wasn’t a war zone. It was one 18 year old kid armed up and nutty. Cops are trained for tense situations. How they could hang back while children were being murdered in their immediate vicinity is unconscionable.
I heard there were only 6 on the force. These officers are little more than traffic cops and likely never dealt with anything more severe than petty larceny or assault. I can see where there might be a lack of experience and training.
One hour, 40 minutes, 15 minutes later? Most of the carnage occurred right after the punk shooter entered the school and then everything went silent; that is the apparent scenario. Will have to wait on a more exact timeline. But it is due to a stroke of luck, fate, or the hand of God that the casualty count wasn’t much, much higher. One, because the killer left one of his new rifles back in grandma’s wrecked truck. And two, during the frenzy of gunfire as he approached the school and his scramble to get himself inside he forgot his backpack full of loaded magazines on the porch outside his point of entry.
You are so right. As horrible as it is, there’s always something to be thankful for. Thanks for reminding me of this.
If that is indeed the timeline, then it appears the cops were giving the plotters time to create the scene and get out. At Columbine, men were seen in the surrounding woods in camo. At the Batman theater, witnesses reported more than one perp, even a second gas mask was found. The “official” perp is always a drugged up weirdo “known to law enforcement”. Sorry, but this looks like a false flag, possibly carried out by other shooters. Where did this dweeb get the money to buy the weapons and ammo?
3 months fulltime at Wendy’s could have brought in over $4K with zero living expenses.
Were they not trained to run towards the gunfire ?
Especially when defenseless children may be in harms way !
You react with extreme prejudice of course that would require an aggressive masculine approach with disregard for their own safety .
Is not that the action that created the HERO tag upon law enforcement .
Or is it bull shit to get free doughnuts & coffee
Children died from ONE word — Groupthink
19 police in the hall , not one could think for themselves , that is socialism in a nutshell.
It took a late arrival cop, to say this is BULLS**T and go in and handle it.
Much like the Groupthink that has accepted our completely misguided approach to Covid.
Indeed. No argument there.
Go.
Gov. Abbott livid after finding out police lied to him. You can be 110% certain that the ONLY reason he did this was because of all the video evidence to the contrary. If there was no video, this would be going down the memory hole like Las Vegas. I noted yesterday now with universal camera phones, they will have to adjust their MO and will be harder to get away with things. I guess that is one good aspect of smart phones. Maybe their Achilles Heel?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/officers-waited-engage-texas-school-shooter-because-they-could-have-been-shot-official
Vegas was mostly white people. If they ignore the Hispanic parents, the media will be accused of racism. That’s why what happened can’t be ignored.
When it suits their narrative, the MSM transforms Hispanics into white people, whose lives do not matter. That will likely be the case here.
White Lives Matter.
Abbot needs to hold the officers and departments accountable then.
Lack of consequences for institutional or personal failures only leads to more failure.
It would be justified if those parents cleaned that police station out with a couple sawed off 12 guage shotgums NO QUESTIONS ASKED ~ NOT ANOTHER WORD SPOKEN ~ FINISH THIS GD SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Odd that this part of the narrative hasn’t gained traction. This kid made a threat (promise) to do this back in 2018.
https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/houston-texas-news/content/2022-05-27-tx-congressman-uvalde-shooter-arrested-in-2018-for-school-shooting-plan/
So, they dropped ball then. Surprise.
Waiting to see if this is confirmed.
It looks like the Congressmen “circled back”. Evidently, it was other kids making that threat that got arrested and he supposedly wasn’t one of them.
Would that we “wait” until everything else in this circus is “confirmed,” as well. But instead, many here accept whatever the lying, FAKE ENEmedia spouts off in the moment.
My tin foil hat wants to say that they didn’t drop the ball, they recruited him and then let him loose just in time for the midterms. I hate how cynical the corruption has made me.
They needed time to funnel cash and ammo to him, the guns they made sure he passed background checks to purchase. Yet there are some sick freaks on here saying these Coward cops are Innocent.
*Someone* was in on it. I would check the stats on all these LEO’s before I’d presume who that someone actually is.
Were any of those at the scene recently *installed* prior to this incident? If so, who are their contacts and where did they work prior? Are those affected, by any chance, “undocumented”border jumpers?
I would start there. It’s easier to target those who live on the margins of society and are therefore untraceable. Serial killers know this.
Or some agents have been grooming him online since.
It does not surprise me the Chief is a political Boob. What surprises me is that nobody on the scene ignored him.
That mom did.
In what world would that decision not to confront the shooter been right?
Soon.
A hundred thumbs up. This has the Feds M.O. all over it. This perp is their archetype patsy. Trust nothing out of the MSM, of course.
Real America Voice, Live from Studio 6B, has some pro police nutter defending the Uvalde police doing nothing……….he says it’s ok that they stood around and listened to children getting slaughter because if they breached the school they would have been killed.
I can’t believe that RAV is giving air time to this BS.
I was watching RAV’s The Water Cooler today, which I normally enjoy, but the host was raving on and on about how he didn’t want to hear anything from anyone against gun control…..I turned it off. Not sure where Real America’s Voice is going from here but with the exception of Steve Bannon’s program, they have lost this viewer.
We talk about brain-dead liberals but there are an embarrassing amount on our side too. Far too many conservatives automatically take knee-jerk positions without any real thought or contemplation. The war in Iraq is probably the biggest example which I fell for myself. A complete disaster launched by a neocon idiot I voted for twice. But he was a Republican and so was I, so I supported it. Thankfully I’ve gotten much wiser as the years have passed.
I’m sure this guy is some “back the blue” fanatic who is too blinded to see the police stood back and let mobs torch US cities in 2020. The same cops also shut down park playgrounds and arrested grandmas in the name of safety. Don’t get me wrong, many cops are great guys, but not a small number value their pension more than our liberty and will do what they are told.
Fortunately, there aren’t as many brain dead on our side as the left, but I do understand where they get some of their caricatures of us.
Right, but how do we know what cops are good? At this point I trust Zero law enforcement, PERIOD. I don’t care Who they are.
Mind your words… Our country is in it’s current state because people are in fear of being shot and are constantly told to “wait”.
It gets no better… And no one wants to admit to that.
To protect and to serve is what it used to say on police cars. Who are they protecting and who are they serving.
Me personally, had that been one of my kids in that school, i would be looking for the cop who pepper sprayed me and put me in cuffs for a come to Jesus discussion.
Pretty sure solid foods wouldn’t be on that cops menu selection for the foreseeable future.
The cops have zero legal responsibility to protect the citizens (legal precedent…so why are taxpayers forced to pay them, and not their true benefactors?), although that “protect and serve” on patrol cars has been a basis for lawsuits. You don’t see it much anymore.
Trump won’t save your second amendment , you will.
Trump got a carry permit in New Jersey when almost nobody else can , because he had the money for lawyers to be a constant pain-in-the-ass to Atlantic County until they relented.
Dual system of Justice , most people can’t afford that ……. is their life & safety any less important ?
Most of Goldman Sachs got CCW’s after the 2008 Bailout( Golden Parachute).
Flee to a free state or take action locally.
Fall Guy. They didn’t think people would learn so much. Who ordered the Code Fed? It’s just too many times with this stuff. Why do we even have feds if they aren’t stopping this? Instead the answer is always legal, law abiding citizens be prey to liars.
So will the out of control spending of leftists result in a totalitarian State, or anarchy and chaos?
Leftist Democrats have ostensibly abandoned the socialist dream, and drifted into anarchism. When Antifa or BLM burn it all down, they will build paradise upon the ruins. Quite the religion.
Exactly where is there an argument for gun control in all that?
In the short term, as ordinary people suffer horribly from anarchism (Defund the Police) will the weak simply suffer? Leftists also believe the population should shrink. From violent crime, boys? Maybe we could set up a system where you guys deliver your mothers and grandmothers for sacrifice. Co-Vid came close.
Soylent Green.
The “police” and Federal law agents all need to be fired and tried for manslaughter
If someone shot the police chief that made the stand-down decision, would ‘oops’ be an excusable defense?
So, why did they bother to show up? Just to keep parents from maybe saving their kids from getting shot? Or maybe to protect the “known to law enforcement” shooter to create a better “crisis”??? Where did that loser psycho get the money to buy that weaponry?
Hindsight? The parents were begging them to go in while it was happening.
That man should do nothing but apologize profusely and beg for forgiveness.
Yes. An odd pattern, don’t you think?
Report: Police Got Own Kids out of School While Subduing Other Uvalde Parents
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/05/27/report-police-got-own-kids-out-of-school-while-subduing-other-uvalde-parents-n570630
The reason our schools are hit is because children are an easy target especially when the gun men know that NO One in the school has any type of defense! Yes this school had One security guard with easy access from every door in the school for anyone, but many schools do not have security. Well trained teachers should be allowed to carry – operative word is “Well Trained!” Many states already allow that and actually provide training for the teachers wiling to carry. If you think about it, about 20% of teachers at schools are vets, so they already have intensive training and experience
I have a concealed carry! Can’t guarantee it but do feel and pray that I would have at least gotten a couple of shots off if I was permitted to carry while teaching
Will say no one can get into any of the Rapid City schools without a key, key fob or being buzzed in. All doors are locked at all times with usually only the front door being accessible by being buzzed in, rest are key fobs or keyed.
….”According to multiple reports, the agents did not coordinate with the Uvalde Police Department due to their poor response. They acted on their own initiative after local police told them to wait. Around 12:50 pm, they breached the door and engaged the Uvalde school shooter.
This is an outrageous new detail that has just been released tonight, 3 days after the shooting.”……
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/border-agents-stormed-school-killed-gunman-local-police-told-wait/
God loves the little ones, even beyond our comprehension. He gives loving parents a meaningful taste of it, in their unconditional love.
May they dance and worship with joy. Perhaps, one day, they too will welcome us home.
God Bless Our Children.
These cowardly police officers are going to have to live with their decisions for the rest of their lives. I hope they are miserable. I hope they get fired and I hope the parents sue the life out of them. There is no excuse for this behavior – none!
Sounds like a recall of the Sheriff of Uvalde is in order. One strike and you are out, when you delay saving children for an hour, because you are scared.
The investigation is in its early stages, but Toresays+ has been looking at USASPENDING.gov for federal $ sent to Uvalde, Texas in 2022. There appears to be federal funding WAY beyond what is normal for a little town of ~20,000. The government website appeared to go down about the time people started looking at this.
We may have a situation where Uvalde government officials, educators, law enforcement and the company who sold the weaponry to the murder on credit (Oasis Outback LLC got $342,084 of federal money) have taken bribes to provide the weaponry and allow the mass murder to take place.
Follow the money.
Tyrus on Gutfield 5/27/22
Thank you, thank you, thank you clear thinking, level headed, Tyrus. Blessings.
Wish my emoji’s hadn’t stopped working here 🙁
My goodness. I’ve only glanced at a few comments …..a few too many…. as all I’ve seen is hate. Ugh. I’m out…………
No, what you’ve seen is moral outrage at letting innocent children die when they could have been saved.
I want to know who propped open the side door of the school. (ABC 10 news Timeline)
11:27 Teacher seen on video propping open side door of to school
11:28 truck crashes outside of school shooter fires shots
11:30 Teacher who propped door open calls 911 to report truck crash & gunshots
leaves propped door open.
11:33 Shooter enters into side door that had been propped open.
This is so fishy!
So stinking convenient for the shooter.
An Active shooter in the school.
You do not wait for anything.
You seek-out and kill the active shooter.
Texas cops are trained to seek-out active shooters.
Police Leadership told them to Stand Down.
…some know what can happen when miss leadership is occasionally, not blindly followed…
(i.e. impromptu solution solving – which may get one dismissed from a ‘job’ (but can improve production and / or save others lives))
p.s.
be aware during a rush in, to help others
that the nefarious have set traps…. (so try not to miss lead with your nose)…
imho
Love thy neighbors (that is what helps)
Almost all city police chiefs in Texas are hired by city councils, a very few are elected. IN TEXAS ALL 254 COUNTY SHERIFFS ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS, ALL COUNTY CONSTABLES ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
THIS REFORM WOULD HELP:
Do away with city police in counties with less than 500,000 population, all current city police officers should be made deputy sheriffs or deputy constables.
We just heard from Barney Fife. Guess Andy was still in Mayberry?
New Town Council Member Peter Arrendondo (curent Police Chief) stopped police from entering building.
meaww.com
How bad is Texas.I grew up loving that joint
There it is.
Is there really any time that would be right not to confront an active shooter in any place least of all a school????
When danger is imminent, the police do not show up, are late or are afraid to be shot at?
We need our second amendment now more than before.
I will never give it up.
The police just an F that will be there for a long time.
Competence and moral ethics / integrity, practical sensabilities above all ( and not by mis labeling ) is needed in roles / jobs / volunteers…
….not the overzealous fuzzy buzz word satisfactions that could overlook or sidestep human competence
( nor by computer data edited by human errors)
in mis favor of complacently checking the boxes
( inclusiness, unawake, unalert ( wokeness), diversity, sustainability, inclusiveness )
Is it misinformation that the gov’t misinformation department was disbanded after 3 weeks?
Incorrect people assigned to potentially challenging roles…combined with a series of human errors along the critical assessment chain of decision makings.
Unbeknownst to innocent children and parents…
a whole series of human and system errors occurred ( or were mis allowed to occur by partners in evil )
before the police made their incorrect assessment
( its barricaded / controlled evil event…for many crucial moments of time when dire help was needed, pronto..
instead of its an active evil shooting event ).
Not good…happened in real time –
and the attempts ( parents moving to save the children )
of time sensitive corrective measures in real time
were
miss subdued by armed, misinformed people..
that compounded the
tragedy.
Sadly, other miss events have also occurred by innate human errors or evil actions, failures…including
daily vehicle accidents…
Challenger miss launch…
govm’t over spending…
corruptions…
censorship…
globalism…
miss teaching of useless perceptions ( crt )..
So, love thy neighbors…help each other…
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/05/a_series_of_critical_failures_led_to_the_uvalde_tragedy.html
Who wants to confront a shooter in a School in a town that is overrun with illegals? Common step up to the plate!! Ulveda is a safe haven for illegals. Let’s go all you brave liberals. I myself would have 2nd and 3rd thoughts about taking a bullet for an illegal. What about you?
This was on purpose. Not bad decision making, not cowardice, not misinformation. ON. PURPOSE.
No Sh *t Sherlock. Who were those federal Marshall’s? How did they arrive so quickly? What influence did they have on the decision making? Pretty sure the county sherif had authority over the chief. Living in Amarillo in the 80s, we had a murderer in a hostage situation. Our sheriff personally led the SWAT team into the home and killed the perp. I was glad to hear Abbott call the police out for their lies. Little girl that miraculously lives through it all. “Why didn’t the police come to save us?” Cowardice all around. I’ve been in a funk over the this entire situation for days.
Bureaucrats with badges. Just a disgusting display of cowardice and prevarication.