According to officials and media reporting from Texas. Fourteen eighteen nineteen children and a teacher two teachers have been killed at a Texas elementary school by an 18-year-old gunman who was then shot dead by police. The shooting happened in Ulvade, Texas.
Texas Governor Greg Abbott held a press conference naming 18-year-old Salvador Ramos, a student at Uvalde High School, as the gunman who shot and killed 14 Robb elementary school students and one teacher on Tuesday afternoon. WATCH:
The gunman was a resident of the community and entered the school with a handgun, and possibly a rifle, and opened fire, Abbott said. He said the shooter was likely killed by responding officers but that the events were still being investigated.
A few years back there was a terror cell rolled up in New Mexico. Local LE did the raid. A dead child from Georgia was found.
It was reported that they were training to shoot up schools. Remember that ?
Yes, now that you mention it.
DITTO
yeah, was a bunch of transplanted black nationalists or some other variant of ne’er-do-wells from the Atlanta area, if I recall
Yes, and the story vanished.
I don’t recall this. Obviously others do. But it would be helpful if news stories on this topic could be indicated? It’s a very important topic.
But this may not have been terrorist or gang related. Social media shows this “guy” was a trans-something. He was on that spectrum from cross-dressing to full gender dysphoria. Who knows but the school, the family and/or their medical care givers.
Trans people have an established pattern of suicide risk and suicide risk very often includes risk to others as well.
Among his social media pictures, he has a “transgender flag” behind him.
No doubt a very mentally unstable young man wanting to hurt others. When are we as a nation going to deal with our troubled youth. Most killers are males, while females mainly kill themselves.
What meds was he on?
Maybe none given kids were deemed resilient and able to withstand a life paused for 2 years. It doesn’t work that way. There will be more. We’re on a powder keg.
The “movement” of gender confusion bears all the earmarks of a contrived societal injection of poison to break down society. It is intensely promoted by teacher’s unions with an emphasis on destabilizing personal, especially, parental, relationships. The teachings are love-bombing and cult like. The theories are devoid of content and loyalty to the cause is its sole virtue. It is a suicide cult packaged in magical thinking. It preys on the lonely anxious youngsters prepared by the internet to disaffection and introversive withdrawal. The magnitude of deliberate evil in this is truly breathtaking. It is difficult to avoid supernatural explanations.
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
Sorry, but “white supremacists” are not the demographic committing murder at rates 20x+ their representation in the population.
12:05 PM · May 24, 2022·
Biden blames all “whites.”
Using Tragedy for Racial Propaganda After the horror in Buffalo, President Biden and others peddle an entirely false charge: that whites are the biggest source of hate crime and interracial violence in the U.S.
“President Joe Biden has been lecturing white Americans about hate again. On May 15, the day after an 18-year-old white supremacist massacred ten black shoppers in a Buffalo supermarket, Biden called on Americans to “address the hate that remains a stain” on the country’s soul. Those stained by hate were not named by race, but the reference was clear.
Two days later, Biden gave a longer speech in Buffalo about the attack. In Biden’s telling, white Americans are at best indifferent to the racist slaughter of their fellow black citizens. “We need to say as clearly and forcefully as we can that the ideology of white supremacy has no place in America. None,” Biden insisted. Biden’s exhortations and moral clarity were the only forces impeding a slide back toward Jim Crow and the reign of the KKK: “I promise you. Hate will not prevail. And white supremacy will not have the last word. . . . We can’t allow . . . these hate-filled attacks . . . to destroy the soul of the nation.” We can’t allow this violence, the president intoned, to “be the story of our time.” To “confront the ideology of hate requires caring about all people”—something that whites, in their silent complicity with racist rampages, apparently fail to do.”
https://www.city-journal.org/using-the-buffalo-tragedy-for-racial-propaganda
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With an hispanic shooter and hispanic victims, this story won’t last long…
Yeah it will. Automatic pivot to guns if killer isn’t White. Good thing McVeigh was White, since no guns used in that tragedy.
…. “address the hate that remains a stain” …. (the man is a freakin jerk!)
Ha! the biggest stain on this country, IMO, is the 2020, Presidential election that was *stolen* hijacked* from President Trump!!!
The next “biggest stain” – is the hundreds of *POITICAL* American prisoners being held in jail for attending a Trump Rally – No charges, No bail, No trial to date!!! Of course this is just IMO…
Blacks kill the vast majority of blacks, while far more whites are killed by blacks than vice versa. Biden is a liar now, has been a liar his entire career, and will undoubtedly go to his grave with his last word being a lie. He did not get elected and was installed by a cabal, owned by China, who truly hate this country. Anyone who doubts that can simply compare where the nation is today compared to where it was before the Chinese pandemic.
Doesn’t matter. Because whites are STILL blamed for motivating the shooting … because “inequity” and “systemic racism” …
Yeah … the white devils did it! When will we all tire of that nonsense?
We are tired of the nonsense.
When it no longer works for Democrats and their WEF partners.
I am long since tired of that nonsense. If we subtract black and brown crime from the U.S. crime statistics, we have crime stats that look like Luxembourg. Of course, that doesn’t get any headlines…
Pure illusion, which is why they keep saying it. If they stopped saying it, it would disappear like smoke. It does not exist outside of prison.
Consider: if this is a racist nation, hellbent on destroying POC, why didn’t anyone ever try?
My first question is always…”What medicine was the shooter taking?”
Oh he probably was vaxed for covid 2 or 3 times like a fool!
Oops should I say he/she that is? Note the skirt! good grief!
Or locked down for Covid zero enthusiasts his Sophomore- Senior years, and deemed ‘resilient’.
More than likely a frequent pot user and some kind of “anti psychotic”.
Or Ritalin.
+ videogames
All of the above.
Possibly he was mentally ill and not taking any medication.
99% of the time there is a psychologist or psychiatrist involved with the usual psychotropics.
I’m convinced that victims of MK Ultra were selected at schools after the school psychologists were introduced in the 1960’s and 1970’s.
Why would that dark money change what worked?
Probably several kinds of drugs, as he was apparently a transsexual…
Bingo; 99.9 percent of the time it’s pharmaceuticals: the psychotropic elephant in the room — never discussed; never disclosed.
Where is the family and why didn’t they get him psychological help.
The FAMILY is the only FIRST RESPONDER that matters …
And many times, because of the absurd laws in place for mentally ill people, the family is unable to get the help they need.
The cult’s main target is the family. By the time the parents realize the disaffection, the children have been marinated in a poisonous ideology that parents and loved ones are enemies.
Uh, according to woke counselors and teachers and shrinks and yes, some parents, this is not mental illness anymore, this is normal and the young person is heroic for transitioning.
Look at the beginning. First, the destruction of the nuclear family and removal of prayers, God and spirituality from schools in the 1960’s, and then abortion legalization in the 1970’s, then diversity and affirmative action, then Big Pharma in the 1980’s and mental health facilities shut down, then school shootings start in 1990’s, then LGBTQ kids in schools are being ‘bullied’ so they are given protected status and finally the transgender brainwashing of children.
It’s all death all the time. It’s a wonder the majority of kids and teens stay sane.
If I were a half way sane immigrant parent thinking of coming here I would change my mind . The US is dangerous to children and you are better off in a third world country at this point with these lunatics in control of every part of this government .
I have t agree. After living abroad for 20 years i have a wife and 2 boys still living there. Honestly I want them to stay there til they finish school. Too much crap is shoved down these kids throats today.
The claim of the cult is that the only psychological danger is reluctance to “affirm” the illusory identity of the disaffected child. There is of course, no evidence to support this assertion. There is also no evidence to support the concept that individuals are born in the wrong bodies or that social influences create gender. Like marxist g0bbledygook the individual personality is erased in favor of the idol of the collective.
Because its not woke to get them help. Rather it’s only permitted to allow them to live their fantasy- as you can see by the pictures. Any intervention to the contrary will be considered bigoted and chastised.
See Flova’s comments first paragraph.
That is why.
Lived with grandparents, shot grandmother, she died during the night.
The grandmother didn’t die. She is in critical condition.
“I feel pretty !”
where’s that idiotic ministress of disinformation when you need a sprightly tune?
It appears as though Health Admiral Levine did a bang up job on this one.
The skirt guy is not him
It is time to pray for the families of the children who died. It is time to pray for the children who witnessed this horror and are afraid. It is time to mourn.
Later when more is known about the circumstances and motives and more information will be time to begin to figure out how to protect our children.
Belle, what you wrote IS what we should be doing this night.
The families are what matters now and in the coming days and weeks.
Actually it will never be over for them.
Any one of us here may well have one or more children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews who go to a school building each day.
I do. I have 5 precious grandchildren who go to schools each day.
I assume they will be safe and protected there.
I am putting myself in the place of these families who have had their hearts ripped out of their bodies today when their dear little one was brutally murdered.
Let us all pray for those hurting so bad.
Let us all pull back from theorizing and blaming and lecturing right now…out of respect and reverence for all of the lives abruptly ended, attacked, and gravely damaged.
Robby Starbuck
@robbystarbuck
Our culture has a disease. Everywhere you turn hedonism is pushed on kids, evil is sold as good, God is shunned, parents & faith are undermined, morality is laughed at and yet folks wonder why such horror happens on a regular basis. Guns 50 yrs ago didn’t change, our culture did.
Our attitude towards guns changed after November 22, 1963. Then, on August 1, 1966, innocent people began to fear guns after Charles Whitman killed 15 people from his sniper’s nest in the Watch Tower at the University of Texas. Those people who are anti gun, looked for ways to take guns away from law abiding Americans. They have been deliberate in doing so since Jim Brady was shot on March 30, 1981. The left has been relentless and unethical in their campaign against the 2A right of gun ownership. This time it the shooter did not use an AR15.
The only way to stop a madman with a gun is armed law abiding citizen with a gun. Where were the Safety Officers assigned to school surveillance?
Collecting a paycheck they didn’t earn?
Charles Whitman had a brain tumor.
For me the UT Clock tower sniper incident confirmed the importance of civilian marksmanship. It’s not often highlighted these days but I believe several students got their hunting rifles and kept the sniper pinned down, saving lives and giving LEOs the cover to get into the tower, where one shot the sniper as the LEO himself was shot (iirc). Without the student marksmen it’s anyone’s guess how long the carnage would’ve gone on and how many LEOs would’ve fallen just to get into the building. The only people against civilian marksmanship are crooks and cranks.
Immediately following these terrible events, inevitably the media and the other leftie nitwits blather about gun violence and gun control. It is so predictably boring that they have no other ideas that would be helpful. What are kids being taught in schools these days? What are illegals bringing across the border by the ton and the millions? Why aren’t there enough LEOs anywhere when you need them? How many innocents can a psychopath kill while you are waiting for police to show up? How many innocents might still be alive if everyone of voting age openly carried a weapon or had a concealed permit? None of these questions need be asked if our
” electeds” had a glimmer of common sense.
Another way to put down white people!….from the ones that can’t think beyond color, what they can USE against us and shire stupidity. That said, I am sorry IF this is real and happened as they say? Who knows, there is so much that is one big fat lie from just about everyone in the media, the government and so on….!!!!! Does not say much for humans does it- no matter the color or creed!
I’ll be praying all night.
What an absolute tragedy. My condolences to the families of those little angels, that will not be coming home anymore. And pray, that the wounded, recover. The road to recovery, will be long and challenging.
Protect Our Children and DEMAND Armed, Trained School Security
https://townhall.com/columnists/marinamedvin/2018/05/20/protect-our-children-and-demand-armed-trained-school-security-n2482630
Armed security is only part of the answer. If you’re relying on armed personnel only, you’re probably giving up victims before an armed response stops the event. The best way to minimize the risk of these events is to develop a strict single point entry posture with alarms on every door to avoid a person inside the building from letting their armed pal inside undetected. The entrance should be equipped with the latest ferromagnetic weapons scanners that lock doors instantly when a weapon is detected. These types of scanners can safely scan over 60 people per minute and kids can keep their backpacks, purses, gym bags etc with them. Only metal the density of a firearm triggers the alarm. Other dense metals (ball bats, band instruments) sometimes require a secondary search. We actually set up and ran prototypes of this type of system for a medium sized high school back in 2019. The voters didn’t support the bond levy needed to fund it’s implementation district wide. The voters would likely support it now. Although, if congress spent 40 billion putting these systems in US schools rather than on a corrupt cash kickback farce for Ukraine, many more kids would be saved
Window was shot out to gain entry. I suppose we could build prison schools or homeschool.
If a window is shot out, there’s obviously time to evacuate to safer locations.
Mentally ill psychopaths need to be isolated from the rest of society.
Even if they are young they need to be locked up and restrained instead of locking down our children’s schools.
It is a sad world where we must lock down our small children’s schools and put armed guards on their playgrounds making it look like a prison but it does seem as if we are there.
But we also need to have a way to remove these very sick people from among us so we can live freely and they must be restricted.
Now we are becoming a society that is locked down everywhere with armed guards while the crazies move freely and of course the liberals want to take gun rights away from us when we need them the most to protect our families from these mentally ill creeps.
A young 18 year old kid just took the lives of 19 children and 2 adults, so easy peasy, and our government want to take gun rights from the parents of those children and the spouses and families of those that died instead of locking up all of the sick bast*rds like that kid who walked easily into a childrens school and shot the place up.
Every Father, Mother, husband, wife or member of a family who have children in school should have the right to be armed and to protect their littles ones from sick , people like the killer and our government should be making it eaiser to do so not harder.
They should be making it eaiser to lock up sick violent predators like the 18 year old who shot and killed 19 children and 3 adults.
We all need to start making this a real big deal, I am sick and tired of these violent crazy idiots roaming around and killing us.
Homeschool is the only answer and prevention.
Sundance talks about the abusive relationship we are in with the government. And I feel this very strongly today. I hear a story like this – one where everything in me says “false flag”. Then I feel furious and yet helpless. Then I get angry that my first response wasn’t immediate grief. Then I pray for the victims families and those injured – but then right away feel furious again because I believe our own government got these kids and teacher murdered. And then there’s what did they do to this kid to get him to do this question. In psychology this is called “aggravated grief.” And the term definitely fits right now.
Well said, my own response was exactly the same.
While the false flag thought wasn’t my first thought, it was only half a second after the initial gasp of horror. It doesn’t make us bad people, it makes us human. Our government is the epitome of evil and false flags, mind control, and grooming troubled kids to commit horrific crimes is their modus operandi.
I suspect a lot of people feel this way, myself included.
These events are so common now that it is hard to feel grief. We expect these shootings to happen, and in that way they are accepted as part of life. That has a desensitizing effect. We feel for the individuals, but repetitive horror becomes statistical.
I was in high school when school shootings began to become common. For over half my life they have been a regular news story. Columbine was a nearly a quarter century ago, and its reality is the only one two generations know.
That is very tragic on societal level. It makes me wonder what the political impact of these events have. Mass shootings are baked into the American cake now. If people are desensitized to them where will the political will to end them come from?
We all the know the script. We all know the cycle. To pharaphrase Mark Steyn: it becomes increasingly hard to grieve for the dead when nothing is done to avenge them, or, in this case, to prevent the next outrage.
Another unnecessary tragedy for these children and their families and friends. This breaks my heart.
19 kids, 2 teachers dead. So how long this shooting last? Seems quite effective for the body count because he supposedly only bought his guns on his 18th birthday. Handguns are less accurate the further away from the target. Something does not add up. Was this kid going to firing ranges? Hard to believe he was the efficient to put 21 bodies with just a handgun unless he shot them all close range.
Children’s vital organs are all in a more compact area … one bullet to a kids torso does more damage
Smaller targets would require at least some skill to accurately strike them. Nothing about his pictures says he has extensive training or hunting experience.
Texas DPS confirmed that he had a “long gun” and was wearing some sort of body armor.
I am confused, was his plan to shoot grandma and then the kids but he was being chased by law enforcement after shooting grandma and still able to pull off the school shooting?
Don’t feel bad; quite likely no one knows what “his plan” was at this time
He had body armor. This stuff is not available at the gun section of Walmart and its not cheap either. He supposedly murdered his grandmother then was running from the cops when he ran in the school attempting to escape then just decided to stop and kill 18 kids and a teacher before a paramilitary unit took him out. I know this a horrid and evil thing and I am sure he is checking into hell now. My deepest sympathy goes out to the families of all killed or wounded. That being said does this not seem a just a little incredulous to anyone but me, especially the timing of it all, weeks after a mass killing in Buffalo NY and a church shooting in California. The democrats are in deep doo doo politically especially in South Texas and their anti- gun message suddenly gets new life. Biden gets to rant and rave about the Republicans, second amendment and the NRA. How convenient. The pundits in the DC Press complained that Texas allows 18 year old’s to buy long riffles while the Army enlists 18 year old’s, gives them fully automatic long guns and teaches them to be very deadly with them. Maybe there is something going on here behind the scenes? Are marginally stable people with strong psychopathic tendencies being sought out and somehow motivated to act? Is such a thing even possible to do? Is there a common denominator connecting these shooters? I doubt anyone in law enforcement is looking into this possibility.
Was this kid another one that was tagged by the local cops/school as dangerously unstable?
I have the same thoughts about this. There are no coincidences. The root of this evil are people even more sociopathic then that kid who committed the crime. Hide your guns, we’re going to need them.
As always, there’s more here than meets the eye.
Unemotional parents – just like Sandy Hook. Lots of correlations. Uvalde is a strong Democrat/LaRaza/Commie area. Lots of human trafficking now…with no borders.
The school was 16 miles from the border. How the heck did this kid walk into a school and shoot that many people..I am a retired teacher..back in 2005-8 not sure all of our city schools were equipped with security cameras and auto door locks. The doors were very heavy metal with small windows..every person that entered the school went through a metal detector..if it went off the person was scanned with a hand held device..we had a full staff of school security guards and roving school police officers. Teachers were stationed at all entrances of the building. My last year of teaching was 09-10..my “duty period” was spent monitoring the main entrance. I was assisted by at least one security guard..I knew it was my responsibility to protect 1500 students and staff in the building..if anything got by me my ass would be fried…12 years later why are these schools not secured???
will we ever answer those questions? no, the press will be on gun confiscation.
I read that he had just gotten two custom AR-15s 18 days ago.
How many injured? I have seen no reports on injuries.
This doesn’t add up.
Cartel connections? Mexico family connections?
An illegal?
If he is we won’t know about it. Much better to call him white and use him as an excuse to disarm us.
Where are this monsters parents?
Probably in jail since he lived with grandma
SD, Check out Steve Kerr pregame presser with the feigned emotional outrage.
Am I the ONLY man in the San Francisco Bay Area who cannot STAND Steve Kerr … or The GS Warriors? Probably
They better start their investigation by finding out who in our government is coaxing these mentally deranged people into doing this stuff. This is being done on purpose so they can make an excuse to take our guns away. That (guns) right now is the only thing standing in the way of their goal of complete control over our population.
I’m sure the Fan Belt Inspectors had this guy “on their radar.” They just didn’t have the time to get to him because, you know, they are busy with Jan 6 people and white supremacists.
Right away Brandon blames the ” Gun Lobby ”
Look at that – N.R.A. convention in ….. Texas in a few days.
Just like Columbine Colorado that year.
Weird.
That idiot came on with a 7 minute speech that should have been 2 minutes.
The last 5 minutes was the usual guns bad blah, blah, blah.
His speechwriters are pure evil to go there,
Imagine if we spent $ 40 Billion on hardening schools and beefing up security instead of handing it to Ukraine.
But, then how would Joe get his “cut”?
To roughly paraphrase the famous Teachers UNION bumper sticker …
It will be a great day when our schools get $40 Billion from Congress, and the Ukrainians need to beg and hold bake sales to fund their idiotic War against Russia.
Positively GOULISH. That’s what it is. Preying on the grieving. Evil.
The same people who want to mutilate our kids and inject them with poison, sterilize or abort them are more than capable of using mind control techniques on a mentally ill person to serve as the patsy to kill more innocent kids .
It appears as though another frustrated Incel took revenge on all the schoolgirls who wouldn’t return his glance … or leering stares.
My heart breaks for the children murdered, the survivors and the murdered children’s families. Prayers to all.
I want to know when POS biden is traveling to visit the parents like he went to Buffalo… The murderer doesn’t fit the narrative just like the murderer in WI at the Christmas parade.
“I want to know when POS biden is traveling to visit the parents like he went to Buffalo… ” -S
He’s not wanted there. Texas ain’t New York.
Dottering old Joe needs to rest up … what with all his traveling recently
SparrowHawk: Plus, President Trump was scheduled to speak ath the NRA convention, unless I am mistaken.
I want to know: 1) is “he” a “she”????? 2) is the shooter a citizen of this country or an illegal? 3) how long has he/she been in this country? 4) how long did the FBI know he/she was considering such an atrocity/how long did they know about the guns and the threat? 5) why didn’t his/her family turn him/her in???
Finally, WHO ELSE knew this was about to happen? I ask, because all of the well-know dems had virtually the same response, at virtually the EXACT SAME TIME. Like, almost like this was PLANNED???!!!???
We already know these hyenas are desperate. Desperate enough to orchestrate a vile, heinous act like this. IMO, THEY are the murderers.
is “he” a “she”?????
They have a catch-all category these days to shut up anyone who asks pesky questions like that
“gender fluid”
… don’t-cha know
Only the uptight cisgendered losers ask such questions … Right? Wrong.
“We already know these hyenas are desperate. Desperate enough to orchestrate a vile, heinous act like this. IMO, THEY are the murderers.“
BRAVO! Time to quit looking for where the blame lies. It lies with the vile, evil, sub-humans who have willingly killed sixty-million babies. These creatures would not hesitate to orchestrate and provide the weaponry and instigate these events in order to further their disgusting agenda.
Andrew Pollack, who lost his daughter Meadow in the Parkfield FL school shooting was on Fox’s Laura Ingraham show about 15 minutes ago
Said something to the effect of:
“We just gave away $40 Billion dollars to defend people in Ukraine … but we can’t protect OUR schoolchildren?”
“Think of what we could do with that money”
With respect to Mr. Pollack, and while understanding his point, no amount of money can cover the moral deficits of a society capable of producing such people.
well – yeah – fine – at some level
But in the prior hours panelists were discussing stationing enough armed guards at all schools and how would we cover that kind of expense?
and our Dem traitors just gave away much more than that would require — just gave it away (well, except for the kickbacks and diverted baksheesh)
so there IS the practical as well as the metaphysical to be considered
While I agree, the public debate seems framed around the practical questions (loosening or tightening gun laws, investing in prevention and intervention) while ignoring the metaphysical ones entirely.
There’s no need for FEDERAL MONEY to do this! The more fed $$ they give, the more dependent the schools are on that money.
My mom was a schoolteacher, and she said that schools went to hell when 1) they became unionized, and 2) started getting fed money.
At that point, they lost all interest in pleasing the parents or local taxpayers. They wanted that fed money.
No different now.
Schools see pupils as cash cows. The schools milk them of every last taxpayer dollar. Actually educate them? Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha. That’s not in their job description
To roughly paraphrase the famous Teachers UNION bumper sticker …
It will be a great day when our schools get $40 Billion from Congress, and the Ukrainians need to beg and hold bake sales to fund their idiotic War against Russia.
good one, Kenji
How does it happen that police CHASE a gunman into a school? Yet he still shoots and kills so many people? Something smells rotten 🧐
sit at your computer and say “Bap bap bap … bap bap … bap bap bap bap … bap bap bap … bap … bap bap bap … bap bap … bap bap bap … bap
and just like that – in that amount of time – you’ve shot that many children and teachers
The shooter was stopped by a Border Patrol Agent that rushed in and engaged the shooter without waiting for back up. The BPA was slightly wounded in the exchange of gunfire, but expected to fully recover.
Agent rushed in and engaged with the shooter yet the shooter still managed to kill 19 kids and 2 adults? Something doesn’t add up.
I personally know some of of the people in Uvalde affected by this. It’s real. Perhaps the shooter was brainwashed or programmed or whatever, but the victims and families are real, not crisis actors etc.
The agent was in the area and responded to the sound of gunfire at the school. By the time he got inside and found the shooter and engaged, the shooter barricaded himself. With a school with hundreds of kids and teachers inside, a well armed shooter could easily shoot 20-30 people in a few minutes before law enforcement or a good guy with a gun could get inside, find the shooter, and engage.
We aren’t saying it isn’t real. But if you look at that kid’s pictures, there is not one thing that says he is trained well enough to shoot that many people before the agent found him. The fact they aren’t taking ANY questions makes me quite skeptical about the events around the shooter and the cause.
If you ram your car through and get onto the campus of an elementary school, with 2 semi-automatic weapons with full mags, you could easily shoot 50 people in a few minutes resulting in ~ 20 fatalities, before LE can figure out what’s going in, go in, and find you. Plus they can’t just spray rounds willy nilly. They’re accountable for every round they sent down range. A school like that has literally hundreds of people in close proximity with typically only one way in and out. All the shooter has to do is point and shoot and has a great likelihood of hitting someone.
I have several former coworkers there and am getting texts and updates. It is what it is. It’s difficult to have the inside, correct information and have to read the nonsense speculations going on here.
You cannot enter a locked school without being buzzed in after identifying yourself. There are cameras at the doors.
Windows were shot out for entry
Every single word you said is true and accurate.
The only thing that could have stopped him sooner was someone in the school, armed, and right where the evil guy was when he started his evil.
No way democrats will support armed defenders in schools after spending so long trashing cops and anyone who contradicts their claims that it’s the guns, not evil people, doing this.
Terrible, terrible evil was done.
I don’t think he meant it was fake. I think he’s wondering how the shooter pulled it off under the circumstances. Did he have some assistance?
Crazy, reckless, nothing left to lose people that don’t care have a knack for it. Video games figure in heavily. Maybe he did paintball?
Like the suicidal non-pilot maintenance guy in Seattle that stole the Alaska Airlines/Horizon Air Q400. From learning from playing with flight simulators, he got in it, started both engines, took off and did some *world class* aerobatics in it, a big non-aerobatic transport category aircraft not approved for aerobatics, without breaking the wings or tail off it, for over an hour before intentionally crashing it in an uninhabited area. I’m a pilot with 9,000 hours and couldn’t have done it. Because I’m not crazy.
2 years of lives on pause. Nihilism, and worse, is the result. They really aren’t as resilient as people said to assuage their guilt over their tuck tail and hide instinct.
Or was the school just a bit lax on their security?
Only mental midgets think these shootings are crisis actors.
Call me Dackage.
In this day and age these people don’t even have to cover their tracks anymore , they know we know and they don’t care .
The monster had barricaded himself in the children’s classroom and subsequently murdered them. 💔😥
That agent is a real hero. HIS name should be the one in lights.
Senator Murphy today saying he is begging for ‘ compromise ‘ on gun laws. (Tip , murder is already illegal )
Their idea of compromise is — ” You give up everything we demand ”
No.
( A thought …… was this person copycating Buffalo ? Will there be copycats from this ? Stay Sharp People )
This was a school for 2nd,3rd and 4th graders. How was an 18 year old allowed to enter a school without being checked or questioned? In fl , you can’t get past the front door without proper ID. So, so ,sad . One deranged individual kills 19 children before their 10th birthdays. Pray and pray more.
Saw he may have shot out a window and went in.
HARDEN THE SCHOOLS. Entry gate to even get on campus. Layers of security.
Prisionschools?
Rammed the fence with his car then got into building.
Someone determined to do evil will only be stopped by someone determined, prepared, and physically there to stop them.
I don’t want to imagine the inside info you are getting and the heartbreak you feel from it.
The Constitution demands there be NO COMPROMISE.
What about compromise on never letting the government limit our current freedoms? What did people think would happen with lives placed on pause for 2 years (not condoning these actions by any means).
Perhaps when we finally learn to say SOCIETY failed the shooter and the murdered innocents, then we will be able to come together to find lasting solutions. Blaming and shaming make the feelings of anger and alienation worse for all involved. Police, politicians, parents, neighbors, schools, parishes, the press, the President need to stop reciting the tired old excuses and blame, and get to work for real change. If they don’t step up, I’ll have suspicions that they don’t want solutions but would prefer these tragedies to continue as political weaponry.
Absolutely. It’s great for political drama and outrage.
God it hurst when it’s an attack on the young. Anyone who has experience with firearms can see how horrific it would be especially for such young children to go through this. There was a time when these kind of events made me want to consider new gun laws. After the last couple of years there’s nothing that could make me waver now. Still we must pray for these kids and their families. May their souls enter the domain of light and peace 🙁
I have no proof, but I suspect in many of these cases these shooters have some very savvy online friends. You know the kind of friends that have experience in brainwashing people. Yeah, those kind. After Covid I will never doubt the power psychological operations can have on the masses. I will also never doubt our own government’s will to kill its own citizens. If I had to guess the slithery friends are talking at a fevered pitch to the lost souls right now.
Doubtful we can find those in the shadows. Better luck trying to identify the crazies. How do you think the dark finds them. If I sound out of line remember that guy from Buffalo was known to the FBI and ditto for so many others. Well that’s how they find them along with online profiles. Unfortunately as distractions are needed you can expect this to escalate. These evil people have been masters at sowing confusion but perhaps their greatest/worst accomplishment is fanning the flames of division and hate.
Child of an illegal?
WTF… am I looking at.?
Another gender bender. These people need help…
This is what I asked earlier.
Laura Loomer
@lauraloomer
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Is the 18 year old Hispanic Texas school shooter an illegal alien? What is his immigration status?
Governor Abbot said he was a “local resident”, but is he a LEGAL RESIDENT?
It’s been confirmed that the 18 year old Hispanic school shooter was shot dead by a heroic Border Patrol officer.
Why was Border Patrol even there?
Was the shooter an illegal alien “resident”, or a “dreamer” as the Democrats like to call them?
This is what I would like to know…
While it is still early and information is spotty, the parallel narratives about a local police chase, a car crash, and the deus ex machina appearance of a border patrol agent is reminding me of the weirdness surrounding Las Vegas “hero” Jose Campos.
The Las Vegas security guard’s name was Jesus Campos.
If you’ve never been to Uvalde, then you can be excused for not knowing it’s a Border Patrol town. Tons of them live there and work further south at the BP stations closer to Del Rio, Bracketville, Carrizo Springs..plus there’s a BP station in Uvalde. US Border Patrol is the largest LE outfit in the area. The illegal alien trails run through the ranches all around there. There’s nothing odd whatsoever that the first LEO to respond was a Border Patrolman.
Thank you for pointing out that this town has a large population of Border Patrol Agents living there.
Possibly this was a message to the BPA?? Since they were /are very effective at transporting illegal immigrants back across the border.
Anything is possible, Just Saying.
It is my understanding that at least some of the wounded and dead children were from BP families. But again, the odds of that were always likely considering how many people in the town are employed by CBP. So no way to know yet if that was causative.
Reading this later than you have been posting, and without enough time before work to read the entire thread, I can’t thank you enough for posting info more relevant and accurate than that of the National media.
Please Dear Father G_d, in the name of your Most Holy Son Jesus, pour out your Holy Spirit, the Comforter on these devastated Parents and friends. Console them, as you have consoled many many in their time of pain. Also the family of the teacher who was murdered along side these innocents. Our whole nation is reeling in pain Lord, please, we beg you in Christs name to help us. Amen
Fellow Treepers, if you are led, take a second to silently say Amen to this. May these children be the first we meet when we enter His presence.
2 Chronicles 7:14
14) and my people, who bear my name, humble themselves, pray and seek my face, and turn from their evil ways, then I will hear from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land.
That’s a no-thinker, however, it’s not the “wall to wall coverage” per se that’s the problem it’s the ppl tuning in.
The only way coverage will stop is if/when ppl stop showing an interest simple as 1-2-3.
But unfortunately never will happen.
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Sanct1mon1a@Sanct1mon1a
Replying to @PlanetTyrus
Just like Greg said is it because of the wall to wall@coverage that we keep getting copy cats
3:09 PM · May 24, 2022
Got to wonder if someone inside the Supreme Court knew of and leaked info on Roe V Wade , could they also know that a major Second Amendment case on carry permit issuance is coming ?
Could this be an attempt to sway or alter that decision ?
A horrible mass killing that makes words of deep regret and condolence useless to the victims and their families. I wish I could provide comfort however.
I am left wondering once again why or how this killer was created over his 18 years of a wasted life, but his apparently extensive use of “social media” must be a factor at least. Living in the tech world, presumably mostly alone, is not the healthiest activity for a young mind. And then out into the real world they go while carrying whatever demented and misguided views they’ve filled their minds with.
As others noted here—where were the people that might have been able to intervene before the madness exploded and all the priceless and precious young lives were ended by his insanity?
Think of the mental health conditions created or exacerbated over the last 2 years as the adults failed the kids time and time again. Think of the powder keg we’re on, and how many times we’ll rinse/repeat.
And since when did depressed mixed up kids decide it’s better to shoot up a group of innocent kids then to commit suicide? Most teenagers are not thinking about making a global political statement with their depression or anger. These mass murders just don’t make sense unless you factor in brainwashing by someone else for a larger agenda.
What many people are failing to realize right now is that America is at war. Let that sink in for a moment.
The American people are at war with the globalists. Globalists fight dirty for that is the only way they know how to fight.
Our own corrupt government, Russia, China, and the entire NWO system is waging war against us. Our corrupt government makes Russia and China look like the enemies when in reality they’re all on the same globalist team, hence all of the rock stars and pop starts that were flown into Ukraine even though Russia controls the airspace….makes no sense. Nothing makes sense.
The first casualty of war is the truth.
What supposedly happened today in Texas is what we are being told by the masters of the media, interspersed with their crap in between. The so called shooter was supposedly a Hispanic tranny, shot his grandmother, crashed his/her car, escaped the crashed vehicle and ran to the school and killed 18 kids. Really? Was this an 18 year old tranny or James Bond?
I don’t believe any of it.
Most warfare is waged via psychological warfare. What people think matters most to those who wish to destroy us. The television and media are more lethal weapons than physical bombs and bullets. Truth is the enemies enemy.
It is easier than people think to pay off a hundred or so poor people in order to get the narrative the global elite desire… There are trillions at stake so don’t think for a second that what reportedly happened today can not be entirely contrived, manipulated and orchestrated by the globalist media industrial complex.
I find it far fetched to believe that an 18 year old transvestite killed his grandmother, drove away, crashed “her” vehicle and then ran to the scene of the crime and killed 18 children while the cops were chasing “her,” or it.
Does that seem plausible, logical or even possible?
I was listening to an interview of a reporter today that interviewed a man who did not know where his child was. He said that he wanted to know where the nearest funeral home was without an ounce of emotion in his voice.
If that were true, the last thing this man would be doing is giving an interview to the f’ng media!!!
The whole thing stinks like hell. Call me skeptical, but I think my skepticism is warranted and justified based upon the present and the past.
Never be afraid to ask legitimate questions. Our enemies want us to just go along with what they say, not question things, and do as they say.
To that I say, No! Not sorry either. Go stick it up your corrupt, evil globalist rear ends.
I don’t believe any of it either.
Nor I.
Russia is fighting the globalists right now. They and Hungary are about the only ones opposing woke globalism, which is why they’re in the crosshairs.
I believe that globalists are that evil tho!
This doesn’t make any sense. I don’t believe a single, solitary thing the news says any more. Hurry Jesus.
Tyrus is a smart, big and tough fellow but he’s also a gentle and kind giant (unless you unwisely rile him) and everyone with young kids in school is certainly feeling the impact of this massacre.
Protect our schools and protect our children, agreed. With what?
After past school shootings many parents were against metal detectors.
So how about dogs? Most kids love dogs. Dogs can smell ammunition better than any AI technology.
How about permanently removing as many of the violent perpetrators of crimes and not making our schools into indoctrination prison camps for our children.
Hold all those guilty of crimes accountable and stop letting them go free and unpunished.
Great plan, Libby
Geez, they talked about that “school-to-prison-pipeline” like it was a bad thing, or sumthin’
I’m all for a thug-to-prison pipeline, gnomesayin’ ?
Our school district has drug and bomb sniffing dogs.
I saw this a bit ago. It kinda hurt to watch….his heart is so heavy!
Probably wishing he didn’t,as he said, “travel for a living”
Next few trips will most likely be difficult. He could use a little prayer.
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How about America uses that $40 billion + we sent to the Ukraine and use it instead to train and deploy K-9’s capable of sniffing out any kind of ammunition entering our schools?
Point well taken. But if it’s come to that, we’ve lost the battle already. We shouldn’t need to turn schools into maximum-security compounds. Who wants that environment? Time for educational alternatives.
Dems are no better than the shooter — they are fighting this very moment for abortions up to birth; some want it allowable up to 4 weeks after. WTF! So they don’t care about these children. It’s obvious b/c all they think about is pointing fingers instead of arming schools with cops and metal detectors. Cops can detect unusual, suspicious and out of the ordinary behavior.
When will they find her 160 page manifesto, thats one question but the real question is how did she purchase the guns????
It was reported he bought two long guns on his 18 birthday legally. No one word on where he got a handgun though.
He couldn’t legally buy a handgun. I suspect that will be downplayed and the focus will be on the long guns.
The trans info and photos will not be discussed by the media.
And how long has the FBI been tracking him?
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Bummer. Emojis not showing up doesn’t matter which program i use (I have 2)
I’ll try using the code instead. 🙁
Aha well that worked however am quite imited with the choices. …just have maybe 10 and they are all facial expressions.
No complaints really just curious as to why the emoji program(s) stopped working for me.
Sigh c’est la vie
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This and the above (12:07 am) comment should not be on this thread.
Sheesh! Terrible, terrible mistake. I’m sorry little children and families….and LE.
My first questions are how did the perp get into the school? Why was the school not secure?
Children are placed in the custody of the school. The school assumes responsibility for their safety. THE SCHOOL FAILED?
Schools must be secure, period.
Steve Lookner
@lookner
Texas state senator Roland Gutierrez to CNN: 18 kids and 3 adults dead, shooter’s grandmother still alive (was airlifted), school shooter was born in North Dakota, went to high school in Uvalde, on his 18th birthday bought two assault rifles
7:23 PM · May 24, 2022
bought with whose money?
They should never reopen that school.
Shooter was a trannie, he was killed by a Border Patrol officer who happened to be nearby. The BP officer was wounded but walked away…
A trannie going nuts, shocking…he had made threatening social media posts…
If a trans, this is the 1st school shooting mass murder by a girl.
I’ve been OK with people having the freedom to express themselves sexually so long as no one gets hurt. But this is a different beast.
Gender dysphoria in all of its forms has long been categorized as psychological disorder. Why? Should be obvious. But is it a danger to society? Not directly. But it is by the standards long established by psychiatric science and by law enforcement around the world.
What is the #1 reason conservatives and centerists stand against this trend of transgenderism? SUICIDE RISK. And the data shows with or without social acceptance and with or without transition medial treatments and with or without good family structure, the suicide rates are consistent.
Why is suicide risk a danger to others? Because “blame” and hate is very often assigned to anyone but themselves. So “on their way out” (especially in males) suicides commonly come after doing harm to others.
Here we are encouraging and even in some cases, third parties creating transgender children without family consent. Creating suicide risk which is a known threat to others as well.
Recognize the risk.
And recognize these educated leftist in the medical field know this too.
People have already IDs his social media data and found him posing in female attire with a Transgender flag behind him.
What if he was trying to “save” these children and punish the teachers? Just a thought.
absolute bloody nonsense….
jimstoneindia(dot)com says that the ‘perp’ was shot dead in the car park by a ‘concealed carry’ citz just after he fired off a few rounds ….
just more media lies ;
( which, of course, is, pretty much, self-evident for any incident promoting a political agenda like, for instance, ‘gun control’ )
1a) The first reports out of Waukesha claimed the attacker was evading a police pursuit and randomly entered the parade route.
1b) The first reports out of Uvalde claimed the attacker was evading a police pursuit and randomly entered a school.
2a) The first reports out of Waukesha claimed the attacker had just been involved in some sort of domestic violence.
2b) The first reports out of Uvalde claimed the attacker had just killed his grandmother.
In both cases, the first reports followed a near identical narrative: the victims were a random target which was the outcome of a police pursuit.
In both cases, the social identity of the attackers and the “random” victims actually appear to be connected: a black nationalist killing middle class white people, and a transgendered man killing children (Note: it will be interesting to see if the sex of the Uvalde victims leans heavily towards one sex or the other.)
Both cases appear to follow a pattern in reporting, one which downplayed potential ideological motivation and attempted to create a story of a random attack triggered by a police pursuit.
This looks to me like a classic case of a disaffected young man “getting even with society.” The Left will merely shout “guns,guns,guns” because an Hispanic youth from an Hispanic town shooting mostly Hispanic elementary school children does not fit the “White Supremacist” meme. A couple of places reporting on the incident claim to have pictures of the shooter in drag/women’s clothing. Probably not a popular thing in Uvalde, Texas. He seems to have been hazed in school for his clothing and poverty. Did the school system or any other authority offer him mental health assistance? Unlikely, but no one in Uvalde will accept any of the blame for this, nor will anyone of the townies be held responsible in any meaningful way.
Unlikely that assistance was offered over the last 2 years at school. Covid front and center.
This thread doesn’t need any more comments so I’ll just say two things:
First, I’d bet the shooter has immersed himself in a lot of “first person shooter” video games, there is a lot of evidence that continued play of this sort desensitizes the shooter and perhaps even makes such an act conceivable.
Second, even without using any additional drugs, people who “identify” as the opposite sex to what they really are by definition suffer from a mental illness; we live in a society which insists that we all pretend to believe their fantastical reality is real, even though we all know better, but catering to these fantasies hasn’t turned out well for anyone.
If the shooter were not only indulging this insane “identifying,” but also using hormones and other drugs to begin an impossible transition, that may have affected his brain further.
Have to add: Does anyone think if he couldn’t have bought the guns legally that this wouldn’t have happened? Murder is already against the law; that didn’t stop him.
What if an adult on the campus had had a gun , don’t we think that would have changed the outcome? Thank God the border patrol officer came or the losses could have been even greater.
Oh the poor families, what unimaginable horror.
OK, I tried to scan through the posts. There are currently 556 posts & it is too much for me to go through.
Most of you Treepers are accepting that there was actually a shooting with NO PROOF OTHER THAN MSM REPORTS.
Is there a local Treeper who can verify that a shooting actually occurred? Again, I hate asking this question, because it is very insensitive to the victims, if a shooting occurred. I have seen ZERO substantial evidence that anyone was shot today at the elementary school.
Please shut me up, if you have hard evidence. I WANT TO BE SILENCED, IF THERE WAS A MASSACRE TODAY!. I will immediately profusely apologize, if evidence is provided. I am actually apologizing in advance. Please prove me wrong.
I have seen no evidence of a real shooting yet.
I have seen no evidence of a real shooting yet
nor will you…..
almost all of these ‘incidents’ are fake, ‘staged’ events;
that’s why not a single ONE of them has ever traversed the entire legal spectrum all the way to the SCotUS….
a very simple way to verify it would be to ask some locals or, failing that, hire a firm of competent and experienced Private Investigators to uncover the TRUTH….
Thanks for backing me up. It suggests that I am not insane.
In a world upside down, sometimes I begin to wonder if it is me who is crazy.
There have been so many false flag shootings, to justify killing the 2nd amendment and efforts to impose martial law to confiscate guns, that I have lost count in my short ~ 60 year lifetime.
I suggest to those who believe that a shooting actually occurred consider the parameters of the situation:
Your tin foil hat needs adjusting. Posting that nutter nonsense here makes this site look like a site where kooks gather.
Please provide independently verifiable proof that anyone was shot and I will apologize and go away.
What I post has no bearing on what Sundance and team does. Their integrity is verifiably solid with years of proof.
Attack me, not the site, please.
Further up this page, Corvair fan has been posting info directly received from the area.
This poster has been here for awhile and I do not recollect seeing misinfo from them, ever.
This is too big to say it was an event that did not happen.
All I’m asking for is solid evidence. I still have seen no solid evidence that anyone was shot. There have been false flags where people have died and their have been false flags where nobody died. Either way, this is a false flag.
A false flag is an orchestrated event to shift public opinion, distract from other issues, etc. It doesn’t mean that the event didn’t happen.
The timing and the attack on children is predictable. The only way to determine if people died is to go to funerals or see the injured/dead, visit the injured in hospitals or maybe interact with the parents of the children personally. That is why I was asking for any local Treehouse enthusiasts to go out and take a really close look in person.
If I go to telegram, I can verify that people are actually dying in Ukraine.
Heck, I saw what was billed the crucifixion and burning of a captured Russian soldier by Ukrainian soldiers yesterday. The gagged his mouth, duct taped him to the cross, put nails through both of his hands, propped the cross up and set a fire underneath his feet.
I could verify that someone was put up on a cross and that a fire was started. I could not verify who was Russian and who was Ukrainian, or if the people were from either country. I could not verify that the person on the cross was burned to death, because they stopped the recording as soon as the person felt the heat on his legs and started trying to scream through his gag.
That is where we are at now. You can’t believe anything without multiple sources of verification.
The disinformation/psyops/propaganda is now is so pervasive, you cannot believe anything without multiple independent verification sources.
Trust me, I’ve been here a long time and I’ve been reliable doesn’t work for me anymore.
There are too many things that don’t add up with this shooting.
How do you get people to be emotional, and therefore irrational and lose the ability to think clearly and discern? One of the best ways is to kill innocent children (or fake killing children).
The timing of this event is oh so predictable. The powers that be have to distract from so much (2000 mules, Sussman trial implicating Hillary in the Russia hoax/coup attempt, collapsing dollar, hyperinflation, destruction of the supply chain, DAVOS, etc.) They are desperate for a smoke screen.
These people play really dirty. If there were actual killings, I look like a heartless lunatic and people will attack me. If there weren’t any actual killings and they get people to believe that they did, we are one step closer to one world communist government, i.e. the great reset.
What you or anyone else here posts certainly does have a bearing on this site. And your OP is that of a tin foil hat kook. Unfortunately, you are not the only tin foil hat kook on this site. Do you have no empathy for 19 innocent children killed plus two teachers?
How do you think the parent of one of those precious children, would feel by reading your kooky response to this horrific tragedy in which you question if their children were actually killed or not? Your OP is shameful.
“tin foil hat kook”
uh-hunh….
so: asking for some sort of proof that this incident even occurred means yr some sort of nut-job, eh?
sorry: but do you, even, know how actual police investigations work?
usually: it takes several days or weeks before the police even admit that they have a suspect…..
( or: ‘person-of-interest’ as they now say )
evidence has to be collected and collated and then presented to a ‘district attorney’/prosecutor who, then, decides whether or not there is a case to answer….
if there are no live ‘suspects’ then something like a Coroner’s Inquest ( in the case of fatalities) must be held to determine: apropo the evidence: who died and how they died and who, if any-one- was responsible….
have any of those steps been followed so far or is this, simply, another case of trial-by-media, hunh?
maybe you need to do an Adult Education course in legal studies, eh?
40,000,000,000 (40billion) would be enough money to have 5 full time guards in every k-12 school.
I guess the school children in Ukraine are going to be very, very safe.
Sorry, forgot to add the /s in the initial post for those with no sarcasm detector.