Today is the primary voting day in Idaho, Kentucky, North Carolina, Oregon, & Pennsylvania. Results will begin coming out tonight. Consider this an open discussion and results thread (will remain atop site throughout).
Polls close in Kentucky at 6:00pm (EDT) / 7:00pm for counties using Central time, North Carolina at 7:30pm (EDT), Pennsylvania at 8:00 pm (EDT), Idaho at 8:00 p.m. (MDT) / 9:00pm for counties using Pacific time, and finally Oregon at 8 pm (PDT) Oregon primary is mostly by mail.
New York Times – Election RESULTS HERE
CNN – Election RESULTS HERE
Decision Desk HQ – Election Results HERE
Politico – Election Results HERE
The most watched race tonight will likely be the republican Pennsylvania Senate primary race between Kathy Barnette, David McCormick and Mehmet Oz. Pennsylvania polls close at 8:00pm EST.
Looks like I’m going to be doing some counting if asked here in PA. Whee. 😒
Over a million votes cast and separated by hundreds of votes. Where’s suspicious cat? 🐱
There he is!
Sigh. Just my personal opinion only but this sucks. Can I sue Trump for meddling in elections? I know I am writing like a sore
loser but here it is:
https://whyy.org/articles/2022-pennsylvania-primary-election-results/
The primaries are the try-outs for the MAGA team and as the captain of the MAGA team, President Trump certainly has an interest in the final lineup.
If you are into the blame game, try blaming the real culprits, the segment of the Rag Tag Bunch of Conservative Misfits who fell for mcconnell’s splinter candidates.
In 2022 there is no excuse not to know about the splinter candidates and how to defeat them.
Shame on those who went rogue and fell for mcconnell’s game.
This splinter nonsense is stupid. Parnell dropped out and everyone else jumped in. Not really that hard to understand.
“This splinter nonsense is stupid.”
It sure is, but that is what the GOPe does to try to stop President Trump’s supporters.
We know the GOPe aren’t geniuses, they just are adapt at cheating outright or building up their “splitter squad” to fool the unsuspecting patriot……. witness the “everyone else jumped in” explanation…..
Way too many votes were split between Jim Renacci of Wadsworth and Columbus-area farmer Joe Blystone that Ohio Governor Mike DeWine managed to win the 2022 Ohio GOP Primary for Governor.
Neither Jim Renacci nor Joe Blystone wanted to drop out and endorse each other in the primary race, resulting in Ohio getting another term of Mike DeWine.
CNN
Candidate(s) % Votes
Oz
31.2%
397,214
637 ahead
McCormick
31.2%
396,577
Barnette
24.7%
314,685
They show 91% of vote in
Oz crushed it in Philadelphia.
Republicans are an endangered species in Philly.
There are more Republicans voting in Northampton County.
800 votes.
1,100 vote race.
The truck from Bethpage (NY) is on the way to PA…..it’ll be a million vote race after the ballots it has is counted.
Ground report from Idaho, where RINO decepticons rule:
No meaningful resistance to Trump’s horrid endorsement of uniparty McConnell stooge Sen Crapo – no signs for him nor any of the 5 other competitors splitting the 40% Crapo isn’t getting. Dems can and do switch parties for primaries, but the ignorance of conservatives is the main problem. Sigh…
Trump did endorse the best Gov candidate, Janice McGeachin, but incumbent Gov Little, who sees Covid as an unlimited opportunity for millions$ of fed stimulus, and will sell us out to the WHO in a second.
Like TX voting for Abbott and Crenshaw, it appears things still need to get much worse before conservative minded folks in red states will develop the focus needed to defeat saboteurs from within. God help US!
Amen
That’s disappointing news.
The only bright side is that RINOs in very local areas (red counties & towns/cities) are getting defeated due to precinct strategy.
It’s not clear to me how this is possible – you’d think it would bubble up to the state executive offices and fed office positions.
Hello, fellow Idahoan! We are in the northern “blue dot” (Latah County) but signs in yards all around are for the true conservative candidates endorsed by “Conservatives OF” not the false flag outfit calling themselves “Take Back Idaho” (RINO/Democrats.) The ticket being strongly endorsed out here is Bourn/McGeachin/Giddings/Moon/Labrador and a District 6 Senate toss-up between Blair and Foreman (not as much for Seegmiller.) The Idaho Superintendent of Public Instruction is also a toss-up but “Conservatives OF” endorsed Durst. For the seats endorsed by Idaho Freedom Foundation, they are identical to “Conservatives OF”. There were so many Republicans in our county that registered this cycle that our blue dot county had to open several new voting sites (ours changed to a new little town because of overcrowding.) While I was at the poll, I heard several Independents saying they changed to Republican just to be able to vote out Little and his “Covid cronies.” So…we shall see. You are right. This nation including Idaho very much needs God’s merciful hand of intervention in this atheistic, communistic freefall it is in. Let’s hope for the best for today’s results.
Hi neighbor! I’m in Kootenai county – pretty good guidance from local GOP, but they failed to endorse anyone against Crapo. Another 6 years of this POS.
I’ll take a look at the org you cite – same recommendations as the Kootenai Co GOP, who sends out voting guide mailers here.
Bonner County, Idaho checking in…so disappointed in the results, basically all our county level RINOs are staying
We’ve got a mess on our hands that may not be fixable.
Not without bloodshed that is.
That’s unfortunate.
Yes they screwed the pooch with the redistricting up there. Heather Scott is still there-she is a blessing.
Owyhee County here- Did a ton of work for the Conservativesof, IFF and StopIdahoRINOs candidates in Canyon and Ada, did what I could in Owyhee. Very disappointed in the results. But I’ve been telling all of the candidates on the Conservative ticket since last June, election integrity is more important than any issue here. I do believe Giddings is going to come up with a few surprises in the near future. Unfortunately the judges are also corrupt here, so we shall see. Sadly this state is a ruby red population with blue management and they’ve managed to turn this freedom loving Constitutionally Conservative place purple without most of the population noticing. With the addition of the Meta Data Center in Kuna, Ada County, they will soon be making a movie about the Gem State heist because Zuckerberg will no doubt be lining his favorite politicians coffers with money like he did McGrain in Ada, who btw will be the next SoS beating out Dorothy Moon who was a gauranteed winner until the machines and goodol’boys took care of that.
Hello I too am in Kootenai County! The KCRCC rocked it. I was at the election party’s last night and it was incredible. I’m in District 4 and so pleased Amador is out! Riggs is out! Filios is out! North Idaho is red, red, red!
We are not going to be a country in 6 years. Doubt we will make it to the midterms and for sure 2024 we will be on our knees to the UN/WEF.
The RSRC has made sure we the people have been checkmated with FL Sen Scott leading the parade with his bald head up McConnells butt.
Hi Neighbors, (Ray of Sunshine too!) Agree and agree. They should’ve marketed these three ladies, “Liberty X Three” or something. Something memorable. With the level of loathing for Little expressed by pretty much everyone I’ve run into around here, I really thought McGeachin had a shot. Silly me.
At least we gained 8 seats in the state senate to throw sand into RINO efforts. Plus, Labrador as AG. Hopefully, the sparks that fly from conflicts between our state and federal representatives here will at least expose the Covid Crew etc. for all to see.
Maybe just a rumor, but DH mentioned that Little actually spends time with Commiefornia’s Newsome at his winery. Ugh.
No, Norseman: Steve Cleveland is running as an independent conservative against Crapo in the fall. He sidestepped the primary by collecting 1000 signatures to run independent of the GOPe party in Idaho.
I know Steve. He’s pure MAGA. Wise move to avoid the Crapo’s big party money in a crowded primary and go head to head in November against Crapo. Idaho can still send a MAGA senator to washington; all is not lost……
Probably long odds, but he’ll certainly have my vote – Thanks!
Good stuff. Sounds like you are plugged in and aware of Kevin Miller, KIDO talk radio.(Stream it free) He and Ex-Rino Gov. Butch Otter are my neighbors.
I listen 4 hours every day and am NJ from Star 😉
Norseman nailed it; “Idaho, where RINO decepticons rule”
Canyon County checking in. Disappointed in the Little victory. But more frustrated at our Idaho Repub party for not informing voters better. I had to dig to find a sample ballot and a list of endorsed candidates. Not to mention, our voting district changed somehow. So the people I was emailing before are now not my reps. The whole thing was so confusing. I emailed the Idaho Repub party and even the local chapters with questions and got NO response. So, no wonder it turned out like it did. Yes we compete with how “the church” wants to vote, but we are also competing against lack of involvement from our own party leadership! All I got In the mail were campaign fliers. No voters guide, no sample ballots, nada from our voting party. So annoyed.
Oh Canyon County they suck! They are just to the right of completely blue-Idaho GOP convention in Twin Falls in July-we need support to get the Rinos out.
And don’t forget: the primary in red states like Idaho really is the General election: if you win the primary as a republican, it’s a foregone conclusion you will win in november.
Until more real conservatives understand this, red states like Idaho will continue to trend purple to blue, aka Colorado.
I voted for Janice McGeachin, Drove to a friends house in E Boise tonight and passed 3 different Little support parties. Got into it with a couple dudes after yelling “JANICE….”. They did not appreciate the factual sand I sent their way. I let them know that Little D did nothing to prevent my company from locking down its employee’s(Still WFH today) and he really needed to further vet his sources on his slung facts….Little D has done nothing, NOTHING, for the working class Idahoans. Well, we have gotten stimulus checks as a small token of reach-around love.
Good times.
Got a sunburn on my bald spot…..
“Reach around love”. Haha. Love it. The kind you end up paying for, dearly.
Southerner conservatives are lazy about their elections. They just vote for the incumbent R and ignore the consequences because it’s just a habit. I’d imagine the primary turnout to be very weak.
LOOK at your Republican party State chair, and others in leadership positions in the STATE Republican party.
Are THEY Rino, or MAGA?
Look at how long they have been in the party leadership, and look at the track record, of the kind of candidates they have been producing.
If the State party chair, and those in leadership are RINO, and have been only giving the voters RINO candidates, how do you expect things to change, without booting these RINO Grifters out, and getting MAGA people in their place.
I’m in El Paso, Texas. I have no idea who is over the local Republicans or who is running in them. I tried to get involved with at least their website but it did not have anything I was interested in. There was a big issue when they were trying to change the leadership, it was all over the papers. It did not look like a helpful place to join. If I am wrong please tell me so I can get involved. It looked like a club of people that have always run it and always will run it.
you may have already done this, in case not: web search “PrecinctStrategy dot com” site run by Dan Schultz of Arizona.
He has systems developed and people active in most states.
Look for the tab for your state, county, etc.
Odds are there will be a group of MAGA-minded patriots already gathered. You will need to fellowship with them to take on the “old guard” insiders.
The old guard won’t welcome MAGA Patriots.
Once again, Mike Crapo (prounounced CRAY-poh) and Mike Simpson (pronounced RYE-noh) are the incumbent winners.
I’m happy about Barbara Ehardt in my district. She tweaked it out over Jeff Thompson. That one was too close so….
….I’ve got to work harder.
Saw Crenshaw the other night explaining away his vote on the Ukraine aid package.
That and his behavior were just a bit much.
I don’t think anyone can explain that vote except money laundering.
I used to live in Idaho. Crapo (whom I call crappo) is the worst. He’s definitely a decepticon. Agree about Governor Little – also a decepticon – and definitely rode the covid train, much to my dismay.
Best wishes to Idaho! One of the most beautiful places on earth once you get North of Boise.
In the people’s republic here of Boise. Agreed. The RINO corruption continues. So hard to feel the R’s here in ID have any idea what control the old school money party has over their dail lives. Disgusted.
I read a post a few days ago re: Idaho candidates. They may wear GOP or Republican or RINO tags, but what they are is Mormon. Gov Little, Simpson, Crapo – I didn’t note the others.
Don’t know about Janice – or others endorsed by Trump, – but apparently (at least in the southern part of the state) that seems the key to winning
Trump is smart..but many are stupid..thinking this woman could win in PA I lived there ..It would never happen..It just split the vote..How smart is that?????
A good first step is for every state to have closed primaries. You could only vote in the primary you are registered as.
My state is a closed primary and I once registered as an Independent and my ballot at the primary level was almost non existant.
My brother living in another state, a southern state, was registered as a Republican and had to wait until the workers FOUND the Republican ballots, all they put out were the Democrat ballots. He looked to see how many voted for Trump in his precinct and Trump only received one vote ,my brother’s vote. Looks like my brother was the only registered Republican who voted that day.
As an elderly native Texan with decades of ancestral Texas roots and as staunch, conservative MEGA deplorable of unapologetic Christian faith, I will continue to support our Governor Abbott with eyes wide open and focused. Not only is Governor Abbott tirelessly leading the fight against the federal government’s unconscionable policy of the wide-open border that our state shares with Mexico, but he is also fighting relentlessly to defeat the Democrat ideology that is being transplanted in our state by federal operatives and media propaganda. Until someone actually walks a mile in our collective shoes in Texas, it is probably best to remain on the sidelines.
Yes Norseman – the South Idaho swamp creatures kept little little, crapo, simpson and put bedke in office. As least we got rid of AG wasden-that is a big win along with Ybarra, not sure about crichtfield that will remain to be seen.
Up here in North Idaho we pulled out all the stops and the KCRCC vetted candidates ran the ballot. We managed to get rid of the rinos in every race and kept the So Idaho people out. It was a BIG win for us up here. The So Idaho rinos do not like us much, its always such a battle but we are gearing up for the fight!
Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
@Peoples_Pundit
All the money and attention was on Pennsylvania. But I’m telling you, big story in North Carolina re: Republican turnout.
Just so everyone understands, NC is a semi-closed primary state and DEMs have a registration edge.
This large a disparity is a big freakin’ deal.
2/. Another big story tonight is how easily Fetterman blew Lamb away.
The latter is largely considered one of the last moderate Democrats, though on policy he really is not—it’s just he’s not a leftwing firebrand.
Yet a statewide race, Lamb couldn’t raise base money, gain traction.
Lamb ran as a ‘Moderate Democrat for Trump voters’, and then did whatever Nancy Pelosi told him.
He alienated everyone. I was not surprised.
At least Fetterman is a bona fide psychopath. Not a snake like this guy.
Thanks TM! My guess is NC Unaffiliateds (Independents) went Republican in a big way. They are the only group that is offered a choice of party ballot and you can only complete one. Voters registered with a party receive that specific ballot only.
They stopped the count at 91 % in. They waiting for everyone to go to sleep now.
MP, ABC tracker seems to still be updating:
Pennsylvania Republican96% of Expected Vote Reporting
CandidateVote PercentageTotal VotesPct.
Mehmet Oz 404,643 31%
Dave McCormick 403,628 31%
Last Updated: May 18, 1:25:05AM ET
yeah, they are counting again. Still traumatized from the 2020 steal.
Any water mains break??
Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
The man who had the courage to hold the first hearing on voter fraud in the 2020 election
@SenMastriano
has won the Republican primary for Governor by a big vote.
Congratulations to an exceptional American.
10:46 PM · May 17, 2022
Welp, looks like the attacks by Oz’s cronies (Hannity, Grenell, the Hofts) on Kathy Barnette worked.
We won’t forget what you RINOs did here.
Grenell is not a RINO he is MAGA but he really really disappointed me in his attack on Kathy
She’s a Christian lady and he is a homosexual, so there’s a fundamental difference regardless of same stances elsewhere.
You can be a Born Again Christian and also be gay. Born Again Christians aren’t perfect. Remember to hate the sin but love the sinner.
Heard the Club or Growth supported her. Why? To help defeat Trump’s pick?
Probably
Club for growth are globalist weasels
If I had lived in PA I would have voted OZ. Not that I didn’t like a lot about KB….but I would have gone with Trump’s pick.
Same here. Seemed like a Rove/McConnell splitter move to me and they could have asked them to endorse her.
I live in PA and voted for Gale. I’d sooner drink Bleach than vote for Oz. He is anti 2nd Amendment and pro trannies.
Good for you! I’m for both Gale brothers! Have gotten to know them personally. Joe is the only one who can beat Shapiro in the general. Mastriano is a pig. Trump should not have meddled in our state. He makes me mad. The dems wanted Mail-in to win our primary because they know they can beat him. We really need Sean Gale in Washington.
The Gale brothers are great!
And I did just that. Barnette is still too opaque to gamble on. And this was, imo, a classic case of Dem/RINO vote splitting strategizing. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again…. even the alleged conservative media indulged in the manipulation/misrepresentation/misinformation/bullcrapformation to help drive the wedges. Oz may not be ultra MAGA, but he is MAGA. No, he is not anti-2nd, or pro-abortion or pro-transgender. All out-of-context soundbites that when I hear that or see that, I know that the person asserting that has not done due diligence. And soundbites are relatively easy to contrive with Oz, because he does tend to muse in some detail about why he thinks a certain way, and those details are where the context is. With Fetterman as the Dems pic for Senate—a certified psychopath—GOP needs a rational MAGA to counter him.
I caught some grief here for my thoughts….but that’s ok. I think Trump deserves all the support he can get.
🤣🤣🤣
I am far, far away from PA and don’t know your people, but is Fetterman part Ferengi?
To split the Maga vote so McCormick could win.
Yes. If she had won, they’d find a reason to stop giving her cash for the general.
They don’t need a reason, just an excuse.
And their excuse is to say “they can’t win in the General” and so deny funding.
“they can’t win in the General”,..sound familiar?
And, by withholding majorcampaign funding from the Congressional campaign committee, and the RNC, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
They do it to any MAGA candidate who manages to get thru the primary gauntlet, designed and manipulated BY the party, to keep MAGA candidates out.
You can wear a bag over your head now. They never learn
Omar does
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I think that would be a YES.
To split the MAGA vote.
Barnette did it to herself.
I never understood her ‘ go look at my website’ response. I mean just answer the question. These weren’t gotcha questions.
Also, if you are MAGA, why the heck would you accept endorsement, help, support from CLUB FOR GROWTH!
Telling people during a short interview to go to their website for an answer is a practical way to get more people to learn more about you. She wasn’t getting air time like her opponents and needed to get her information out.
I thought “Club For Growth” was a baldness support group?
Trump endorsed Oz. I didn’t like either of the two. One is a Muslim and if you know about Islam in detail, you will understand it’s at least 50% “government” (political) and 50% religion. And though Christianity has had its history with forcing its religion onto others, that time has long since passed and Islam still enforces its religious law upon non-Muslims every day since its beginning. So it’s impossible to trust a Muslim to be faithful to the US constitution.
As for Kathy? Sketchy history. Sounds good but she’s no Candice Owens.
Trump’s belief on the matter appears to be based around the odds of winning against a Democrat and I tend to agree.
this one was easy.
Where was Barnette on January 6th? She was there, putting herself out there for VSG.
Where was OZ?
Where was McCormick?
Did Mitch send Barnette to J6, with a potential to be Gulag’d, as a splitter strategy?
A false flag “insurrection” was set up at the Capital on J6, replete with FIB plants and instigators, while President Trump’s peaceful rally took place clear across town. Not everybody was in the same place or there for the same reason.
Upwards of 33K Mail In ballots to be counted. PA.
per MSNBC
Yes and heavy for McCormick
Another steal? They always wait to see how much vote they will need to overcome before counting the mail ins.
Exactly.
Does PA have fraud/mules boxes?
YES
Mostly Democrat ballots.
with no chain of custody, these “ballots” will be used for whatever purpose necessary. 33k Ballots can swing the GOP primary wherever. Mail in ballots are “free votes”. They can be rejected, adjudicated and “fixed”.
I consider Pennsylvania dead – as far as being a voting republic. It’s fate is in the hands of enemies of the state. If you ever want your vote to count. You’ll have to leave the state.
America is dead and everyone seems ok with that.
So, of the 7 candidates running in the PA /Senate elec., how many were RINOs and how many were MAGA?
It will take more than one election to clear the RINOs out
They have a lot of money
I just don’t know if America has the time
It’s running out
Bigly
No more time- UN/WEF will be in control by Nov.
suggest buying some knee pads.
JMO, there was only one MAGA candidate ……… President Trump’s pick ……. the rest were splitters from the GOPe, either card carrying GOPe or fellow travelers who were used as pawns to split the vote with the intent of knocking President Trump’s pick out.
MAGAs have the numerical, economic, moral, intellect and armed majorities in America and the best leader, President Trump.
If someone wants to start a MAGA insurgency and support the never-trumpeters, well….. that is their choice……. they are not real MAGAs.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
While we are busy thinking we still have a country and can vote our way out of it- I’m planning on taking care of my family.
I am under no illusion that America exists anymore.
Gale was probably the most MAGA of them all but no money to push
Sean Gale is the only MAGA. He is very strong for Trump. Trump should have kept his nose out.
KB won in the county Oz was rallying in. (Montgomery)
Sands is the one that took the victory from Kathy – unreal any thinking person would vote sands given final week of campaigning. It was obvious , and if she was true Patriot she would have backed out and supported Kathy, but no, infuriating.
I don’t think so.
I think it was the complete pile on from the entire Establishment, including PDJT with his OZ pick (which also split the MAGA vote). Even Sundance here piled on her indirectly with that tweet the other night. They politically kneecapped her.
The county-by-county totals reflect that outcome (based on the known proportions of Patriots and more conventional GOP voters in each), and also where the undecideds went, and did not go, at the very end.
Barnette was trending well with undecideds, and that was then capitated after the non-stop attacks. And she pulled what she pulled off on a shoestring war chest.
Oz and McCormick and their pals spent over $50 million on this race.
If Trump would only endorse his grassroots supporters instead of elites he plays golf with…if he had endorsed Kathy she would have won.
How can he endorse her when she has made her background murky and often ambiguous? She also pretty petulantly tried to divorce him from the MAGA movement, she took that away from him, claiming it exists outside of him. The reality is that he gave birth, so to speak, to MAGA and coalesced tens of millions into one forceful movement. For her to take that away from him, smacks of envy or possibly Never Trumpism…in other words, she hasn’t earned trust and that is of her own doing. Also, someone who tweets about being afraid of or disgusted by sitting next to a perceived homosexual on an airplane, is going to taint MAGA…even those of us who are MAGA. That is just bigotry, period.
She was very up front in many interviews and vids.
If Trump had either backed her or just stayed out of this one, more people would have seen those excellent vids, instead of the crap that Hannity, etc. spewed.
Didn’t seem to hold OBiden back. “If you don’t vote for me you ain’t black!”
Both things were at play, Older.
Sands and Gale, etc. should have dropped out a few weeks back and endorsed others if they wanted. They had to know they were not going to win.
Their votes could’ve gone to Oz or Barnette.
And the lies spread by Hannity and supported by Oz were disgusting.
The stance that PDJT does not currently represent the MAGA platform that he campaigned on, is ridiculous.
He simply made the more considered, pragmatic choice, because PA is a purple state, and an avowed racist and homophobe cannot withstand the scrutiny in the general election.
Thank the folks loudly patting themselves on the back for *voting on principle*, using zealotry as justification for being willfully myopic about splitting the vote.
And the candidates who know they haven’t got a chance in h*ll of winning but refuse to pull out.
Agree.
These other MAGA candidates have to do the decent thing and back out once it becomes clear they aren’t going anywhere this round.
Too many MAGAs close to election ensures a RINO win- and every single one of those candidates KNOW it.
Looks like there were at least 4 Maga candidates in this PA election.
Possibly more, haven’t gotten a straight answer yet to my question above.
Shadowy Figure
@JoeMomm71385822
Replying to
@Peoples_Pundit
~9,000 GOP voters voted in the Pennsylvania governor’s race, but skipped senate race. Yikes! Whoever wins has a LOT of work to do.
12:48 AM · May 18, 2022
I’m not really surprised. I saw a lot of yards in our neighborhood with signs for Doug Mastriano and signs for some other candidates, names I didn’t recognize. But I did not see one single yard sign with any of the Senate candidates’ names.
Similar situation in my blue neighborhood. A Mastriano sign, a handful of Fetterman signs, and nothing else, not even for other (D) candidates. Regardless, Mastriano proved himself to MAGA by being the lead commonwealth critic of COVID BS and the election fraud in 2020. Not surprised he got MAGA unity where others did not.
NOT true!
97% of Expected Vote Reporting
CandidateVote PercentageTotal VotesPct.
Mehmet Oz 411,415 31%
Dave McCormick 408,674 31%
Total Estimated To Be Early/Absentee: 15%
Last Updated: May 18, 1:34:40AM ET
Sounds weird
I was watching the AP results on PBS and the count went from 99% in on the PA GOP race when I went to bed at about 1am EDT to 95% when I woke up just now and Oz and McCormick flipped percentages, exactly.
I feel for PA. We almost move there several years back and have friends living out there. They didn’t have really a good candidate on the Republican side. It was so bad that Oz came in from NJ?! The fact that he had so much baggage of gun control, trans and his associations didn’t sit well with a lot of people either. That was a real turn off to a lot of voters and they were willing to give Barnett a chance because at least she sounded the part and LIVED there. Too much trauma of seeing carpet bag Romney and not wanting to deal with that themselves. Why not tell Oz to run in NJ when that senate seat comes up? I think more should have been done to find a local MAGA candidate and not bring someone in. That being said I hope that Oz does win, just because who knows what he will really do. He could surprise everyone. A lot of people changed their minds during the scam-demic on a lot of issues and he could be one of them. We know what we get with the dems and it’s hell without the luxury of a handbasket. I voted for Trump in 2016 not knowing how he would do, but knowing what HC was capable of. I was willing to find out regardless of his former beliefs.
Now I’m just wondering how my state of Missouri is going to handle things. It looks to be a right mess as well. I’ve heard that Greitens, the former “disgraced” governor is running but he’s endorsed by McConnell! Hawley has endorsed V. Hartzler and then our attorney general of only 1.5 year is running as well. Sheesh! I wasn’t too fond of Hawley doing that a few years back, and I’m not best pleased with it now. In fact I’m more pissed about it. He’s getting in the news for doing all these moves against the feds, but I can’t help but wonder how much of that is him just posturing for his run for the senate. It seems that last year we never heard a peep about him on anything.
So yep. I feel for PA. And I think Trump should have made dang sure they had local people to run for these offices, especially since these positions are supposedly so important.
You have it backward. McConnell didn’t endorse Greitens. Greitens said he would not vote for McConnell as majority leader.
Where Oz currently resides in NJ, is right across the river from Philadelphia. His daughter and other family live just outside of Philadelphia, and he spends a lot of time there. Also attends the Bryn Athyn Cathedral from time to time, in the same neighborhood. That is the American home of Swedenborgianism, a branch of Christianity, so not a religious Muslim, another allegation too many make.
Did they skip it or the votes disappear?
Can Oz creep up some more to avoid a recount?
What a nail biter but a good, solid win for MAGA overall if he’s able to pull it off!
Mitch McConnell only got 31% versus MAGA with practically the rest of the vote
needs to go above .5%
I can never, ever erase what was portrayed re elections after watching 2000 Mules and the work the “True the Vote” organization has accomplished. Really, really hurt, me to learn that PA, was the most corrupt EVER in 2020.
So I have to take the current election results in PA with more than a grain of the usual vote rigging salt. Just how many years will it take to figure how OZ did his magic behind the curtain? Time to watch the movie the Wizard of Oz again I guess.
I am living in a state or mourning right now on some level at this time. Same as it ever was.
Couldn’t help but thinking about the song from the movie, I forget the title of it. But I do remember Shakespeare writng, all of the world is a stage. Indeed.
Just look at this video and I think you might understand. Tom Hanks and Bruce Springsteen making tons of money off a movie regarding gays with HIV, which some I follow believe was another manufactured disease
I guess its time for me to accept it is time for me to reset the coordinates on my compass.
Offical video
Pretty sure the mail in votes will go against OZ
Why would I want to watch a video about homosexuals, trannies and the like.? See too many of them in commercials, sit-coms, the government., and news anchors. Don’t bring that trash here.
I find myself rooting for OZ a man I don’t like but dislike less than McCormick who is a vile creature.
yup.
Were rooting for Trump, not Oz.
Oz still needs to prove his MAGA
Serious question? What will you do politically when Trump is no longer with us?
Depends on what happens between now and when Trump is no longer with us. I dont see the current situation as political one anymore. I never thought of my liberty as being a political issue. We are at war and the enemy is within. What is politics anyway if elections are fake?
What is politics if elections are fake? – Brilliantly summed up, MP. : ))
No reason to vote if you can’t trust the vote count. Mail in ballots will give win to McC. The game is rigged.
If you are mad about the Senate race, put your shoulder to the wheel for Doug in the Governor race. Focus like a laser in getting him elected. The Senate race was lost when Parnell dropped out. Chin up and let’s get to work!
NO NO NO. He is called Mail-In -Mastriano for a reason. He voted for Act 77 and then made only the motions of trying to fix the mess. The dems really want him to be on the ticket because they know they can beat him. Joe Gale is the only one who could beat Shapiro.
DeSantis.
This is a good analysis.
I think the lesson to be learned here now is more for Trump than for the MAGA base.
A PDJT endorsement has a fairly proven 10 point boost effect for any candidate. That has become a new rule of electoral physics.
But it may not be enough with a weak or marginal candidate. And it is sometimes not enough. Part of what makes a candidate marginal is their ideological compatibility with the base.
The Trump base is no longer voting for RINOs and Romneys. We’re just not doing it any more. The last few rounds with ‘endorsed” Romneys, Grahams and Tillis’s have taught the base. Tillis just helped tank Cawthorn. It’s an independent, self-thinking base now. Trump needs to be aware of that, and to tailor his endorsements to that reality.
And I think PDJT is deep down happy about that, too. He wants us to think for ourselves.
The endorsements that are losing or struggling at the primary level are either weak or marginal. Oz is weak, and is in a razor tight race, because he is inconsistent with core MAGA principles.
And in a crowded field where other candidates are MAGA-aligned, all that does is confuse and split the vote. The ten points Trump handed Oz may not be enough. Take it away, and Oz had no chance whatsoever … which is an indictment of where Oz stands on the issues.
Process (“they can win”) vs. substance (what do they believe in). They both need to be considered by Trump in his endorsements. And for the most part, he has been balancing those factors. But the base is no longer voting purely for process reasons anymore.
Endorsing a front runner at the end such as Mastriano is easy.
Picking between Oz and Barnette in a crowded race is hard, even for Trump. I personally think he picked wrong there.
100% agreed – I live in lancaster county in southeast pa and I was dismayed at trump’s endorsement of oz – but for now I’ll hope he’s right and I’m wrong.
We have a massively embedded rino problem in pa, mostly thanks to philthydelphia – I’m not yet convinced that trump fully grasps that.
Glad you understand the stakes now. Can’t let McCormick / McConnell win here!
Its too bad that many people don’t understand that.
This is how low we’ve sunk.
This has become a Hobson’s Choice race now for the people who live here.
Which out-of-town carpetbagger will throw PA under the bus in the years ahead?
The TV liberal, or the woke hedge fund manager?
Ive been watching the Philadelphia county where fraud is rampant. Over the last 2 hours Oz has hardly gained an additional vote while McCormick has gained over 1,000. 93% in
Looks like a familiar play… the RINOs have taken a few pages from the D’s playbook?
There’s just one book and both parties use it.
There’s a reason that Act 77 was promoted, pushed, voted on, and passed under a completely GOP-dominated PA legislature.
Wolf didn’t even ask for it.
The big ‘crumb”? Removal of the straight party ballet option … which favors incumbents (THEM).
The Calvin Coolidge Project
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Oz has come from behind in the GOP Pennsylvania Senate Race to have a 2741 vote lead.
1:42 AM · May 18, 2022
CNN
Candidate(s) % Votes
Oz
31.3%
411,541
2,686 ahead
McCormick
31.1%
408,855
Joseph Ford Cotto
@JosephFordCotto
At this point, McCormick has to realize that he has no serious path to victory. I expect him to make the recount a nasty one all the same. His patrons are GOPer establishmentarians who loathe outsiders (like Oz) and they surely expect McCormick to be a nuisance. Furthermore, …
… Oz is seen as a proxy for Trump. Ergo, the Bush League GOP/Never Trumpers/Trump skeptics expect their man (McCormick) to be as nasty as is reasonably possible. Soon enough, McCormick will endorse Oz, but tepidly, and there will be massive PA-GOP division headed into November.
2:10 AM · May 18, 2022·
FNC’s Shannon Bream replaced the Gutfeld hour and the voting stats at the bottom of the screen claimed McCormick was ahead by .3 % with 99 % of the vote in. The 99% was BS of course because the votes were only in the low 300,000’s at the time. Turned it off.
Also McCormick supposedly had a big early lead due to the 1st counted Mail-in-Ballots (Brett Baier I think) which is a term that is almost synonymous with fraudulent voting. Mail-in-Ballot Counting machines (or a machine) had allegedly broken down and the votes had to be hand counted. The counted votes in the Pennsylvania primary continued to go up but the percentage of votes counted did not seem to rise in both the Politico and CNN results.
There are too many questionable occurrences happening again or it is just over sensitivity after the 2020 fiasco.
The ballots in Canadian elections are all hand counted and chosen reps from all parties watch the removing and counting of ballots closely.
The 1st round of Mail-in-Ballots counted…
(🤔 why do they stop counting?)
…Gives the preferred candidate a “Lead”.
Challenger must close the gap.
The 2nd round of Mail-In-Ballots counted overcomes any “Lead” by the challenger.
(Why they stop counting)
“By the Book”
Uniparty approved: Oz, McCormick, Lamb.
Not approved by the uniparty: Barnette, Fetterman.
Fetterman is VERY approved.
But if he drops dead from the jab, there is always that bizarre opportunity that Governor Mastriano could select Barnette to fill his seat.
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Roger Stone
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Sandy Smith won the Republican primary in NC-2 tonite. I endorsed her months ago. Backstabbing RINO Kevin McCarthy spent $580,000 against her in the final week only to face ignominious defeat.
Well, yay, NC! Ted Budd (Trump endorsed NC candidate for Senate) won a huge victory! Let’s hope he can defeat whomever the D is in November. I hope he’s a fighter and not another Burr/Tillis!
Sandy Smith won in NC – 1. Ted Budd is not a RINO as far as I can tell. Tillis goes anywhere that Mitch McConnell leads and Raytheon contributed $21,000 to Tillis in 2020 election.
If you voted Samds you really need to look at what just happened here.
If your candidate ain’t tracking 7% with a week to go, cut bait and pick a side.
The 70k votes to sands mucked this up. Way to go, you wizard of smart.
GOP just keeps doing the same thing over and over….
Yes. I thought that out of all the candidates, she should have bailed out. Sands seems like a nice person from what I saw from her on WarRoom, but she shouldn’t have run. Some people should NOT run for the US Senate as their 1st election. It requires statewide name recognition or a ton of money. She had neither, maybe it was ego. Who knows.
use as splitters.
Hint: The GOP doesn’t care. They are playing a different game behind the scenes and we are not in on it. I bet right now they are still having a lot of secret communication between a lot of people in the Republican Party about lining up behind either McConnell GOPe or MAGA PTrump.
They probably already did this, set it up, weeks, months ago. The plans we are never allowed to be part of or see have been made. The struggle and war is out of our view as usual. Our votes count, sort of. They need us to vote to provide cover for what they are doing. Covid and Mail in ballots were just what they needed to make life easier for themselves. We know the Dems do it too of course.
Very discouraging to watch that race, how it was engineered seemingly. Who is the best candidate? None is my answer, but to pick the one who might become an asset for the MAGA people would be the one PTrump chose. Whole thing stinks and it looks like voting fraud most likely is present. But how will we ever know?
It is long past time that the common practice of releasing and/or leaking early election results was stopped. When it is done prior to polls closing it can influence how and whether people vote and aids in election manipulation. When it is done after polls close it gives those looking to manipulate the elections exactly the information they need to do so.
No election results for any election should be allowed to be released or leaked until the results for the entire election have tabulated and can be released as final. There should be very stiff mandatory criminal and financial penalties for anyone found to have released results early or to have leaked results.
The ‘press’ can speculate all they want as long as it is not based on actual election data prior to the official release of the final results for the entire election.
Penalty of death
I agree with not releasing results till all the polls close, and esp they should not report results across the country until ALL polls in the US close in national elections. On the other hand, if we had not seen the results in those 5 battle ground states in 2020 as they were being tabulated, we would not have seen the halt of the counting that night, and the sudden flip to Biden when the count resumed. We would have just gotten the final numbers that Biden had won.
Maybe start the counting after the polls close, publishing results in real time? That might solve the issues being discussed here. But might bring up a whole host of other ones that I’m missing…Hmm.
It is stunning to read that so many on this thread, on this of all sites are still discussing these elections at every level as if there is an authentic and reliable system. We will be thrown a bone here and there to make us coming back for more, especially at the local level.
2000 Mules cannot be ignored.
Dr. Frank’s presentation regarding the cheat by machine, all the way down to local elections, is a must watch.
Here is the link: https://rumble.com/vkzdlu-mike-lindells-cyber-symposium-dr.-douglas-frank.html
We should be discussing the above, not whether the RINO or the lefty is chosen to represent us.
A victim of identity theft cannot begin to think about improving his finances while the identity thief still possesses all of his active credit cards, account numbers and identifications.
Yes.
Agree totally. The whole Republic now is a sham. Unless this is rectified everything else is useless.
did the polls that had only 10 republican ballets ever get more, did anyone come back? I would have waited yelling my head off until they got me a ballot.
In 2020 the excuse was a toilet overflowing.
2022 it’s a printer malfunction.
2024 will be the carpets weren’t vacuumed.
2026 the coffee was cold
2028….
Evil is on the march in South Dakota – Julie Frye Miller who is in state government says Kristi Noem is trying her best to purge the Christian MAGA contingency – the only thing that stopped the state from shutting down were the true CONSERVATIVES in Pierre.
Steve Haugard who is speaker of the house is challenging the Big Pharma shill Noem – she is beholden to big Pharma, The Chamber of Commerce and Sanford Health
Dont take my word for it – the communist progressive machine is on the march here in SD…… Stew Peters show from May 16 has an explosive interview with Julie Frye Miller …….finger in the wind Noem took all the credit …..spit!
Noem is weak tea. The only shot she has to get beyond where she is now is if she is owned/in the stable with other owned Rs. She’s the Annie Oakley version of Nimrata Haley.
Hmm. South Dakota has a proposed amendment on the ballot to get rid of normal party primaries and switch to the crap California has, top-two. That’s baaaad. They need to retain the party primaries and they should have them be closed, so only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary.
Very disappointed with the results of the election in Idaho.
People just do not follow politics closely and understand the danger that lobbyists are now the only constituents and we are just there to hand them tax money while they bankrupt this Nation.
Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens [Princeton University, 2014]
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf
Excerpts:
A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.
In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes.
When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system [that describes the overwhelming influence of the administrative state and lobbyists – W], even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.
To be sure, this does not mean that ordinary citizens always lose out; they fairly often get the policies they favor, but only because those policies happen also to be preferred by the economically-elite citizens who wield the actual influence.
It’s taking longer because of the diesel shortages.
True story…
He lost because Trump did not endorse him until the night before the election which is not enough time to get the word out. Cawthorn spoke at Trump’s J6 rally and it was used against him for 2 years. So much for Trump loyalty to his supporters; he also did not endorse Kathy Barnette who was at the J6 rally and marched for him.
Cawthorn unwisely used his position in DC to promote himself and not the people in NC. North Carolinians don’t go for the Big Man On Campus lifestyle – we love Trump but this was the wrong Dog back.
Cawthorn was too flamboyant. It didn’t work well for him and he was easily taken out by the Democrats by posting his social media mess. He would have lost the general election. We don’t need outrageous personalities in these precious House and Senate seats, we need solid Trump-loyal level-headed experienced people.
Clutching your pearls too hard is bad for your children’s future.
But agreed, he had weakened himself with his frat house antics.
See above about weak and marginal candidates and PDJT endorsements.
No need to insult with “clutching your pearls”. I’m quite unemotional about this. Cawthorn caused his own problems.
I liked him he was one of the best and I put the blame on Rino’s..also isn’t he from a red district
His district includes maybe half of Asheville…the paper there has run a smear article on him every day for 2 years.
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Cawthorn is a young man with some serious emotional issues because of his horrendous accident. A lot of what he’s done is on the order of teenager crap induced by coping with awful problems.
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Legit or not, it makes him a bad candidate for a hotly-contested House seat when the GOP needs the majority so badly.
My neighbor is a local and she saw most of the youthful smear stuff and pretty typical of private school teenagers hi jinx.
I do not think he would have lost he general because his opponent is an extreme leftist.
He lost because of the vid of himself romping naked in the bed w/ his buddy.
The guy’s an immature idiot.
Ever notice, at the casino everything is rigged? Owned by a group of billionaires who make the rules and take your money. Focus on that part of voting not on the candidate, because until that’s fixed you will always be one spin off of winning.
I find it very strange that even though every patron at the casino knows they are losing money they still flock into the casino night and day. Never is the parking lot empty or even remotely empty. Cars with bald tires, new cars, old cars, people who cannot afford to lose a penny go to donate.
I hear “I won $20,000 last night.” I ask “so you made money”? “No not this time.” So, they VOTE for another round of the same.
We win certain seats or states, but never enough to change it. Even if we do, they switch parties or vote in the same lies.
Question: if you knew the whole game was rigged when voting, how would you react. Would you still participate? Still pay taxes? Knowing that it’s a controlled gamble and you will always lose one more freedom each coin or vote you cast?
What have we gained with republicans in office?
“every patron at the casino knows they are losing money they still flock into the casino.”
Why? Because SOMEONE wins the lotto every week. You can’t win if you don’t play.
It’s called hope.
Until people accept that is rigged and refuse to go along nothing will change. I voted for only 2 spots in the CA primary, both local races. I refuse to be a part of the charade involved in DC politics.
What do you mean “refuse to be a part of the charade”? Do you think not voting hurts the Democrats? It hurts US! Stop expecting perfection! You need to vote in every election, for every available seat, and you need to vote smartly. Choose bad over really bad if you have to. Don’t let precious House or Senate seats go to the Democrats and then they end up in control, like they are now. Voters need to stop being so emotional. You make every attempt to weed out the bad candidates during the primaries, but in November you vote for your GOP candidates, like them or not, because the majorities are so important.
When Democrats lay in bed at night and dream, they dream of Republican voters who won’t vote until the “system” is fixed. YOU … are the stuff of Democrat dreams! God Bless You!!!
We made Trump win in 2016 and he would have been in his second term right now if not for all of the cheating. Elections might be rigged but we can overcome the rigging.
If you want more from your Republicans then vote for better Republicans. It’s really that simple. We can’t expect much if people keep electing politicians like Romney, Cheney, McCain, Ryan, Graham, McConnell, etc. It will take a sustained intelligent effort but it’s possible to get rid of the RINOs.
But below you just said I should vote for Edwards a major RINO and swamp supported.
Your analogy is wrong.
You are comparing an honest business with flat out stealing. By your childish standards, someone walking down the road and being robbed of all their money is the same thing as going to a casino and losing all your money
You can talk the MAGA talk all day long but if you spend energy trying to discourage MAGA voters from voting, how can you be much different than someone stealing votes at the ballot box? If you are not a TROLL, than there are no trolls.
Agreed. Besides, in a casino it’s a matter of odds. It’s about overwhelming the fraud with honest votes. And doing what we can to reduce fraud in the first place.
Oops… I meant in elections we need to overwhelm the fraud with honest votes. While reducing the fraud at the same time.
Palerider is no troll.
Casino gambling is such an honest unrigged business it’s illegal in most states.
It seems to me Palerider was essentially asking why play a rigged game?
Change the game to a fair and honest game.
Unless casinos are operating under the radar, they are legitimate businesses. Casinos don’t steal anyone’s money as people gamble willingly. If the casino publishes legally required documentation that your odds of winning on any one pull of a slot machine is 10,000 to one than there is no “rigging”.
I don’t gamble and I don’t think gambling should be legal.
There are TROLLS on these pages whether we like it or not. Discouraging people from voting is TROLL activity. You don’t see me trying to stop people from rectifying illegal voting, do you?
North Carolina had a disappointing overall turnout of only 19.66% of registered voters(1,422,752 out of 7,236,469). I have not seen the full breakdown of percentage participation by party and unaffiliated registered voters yet.
I am pretty sure that If Trump had endorsed Cawthorn earlier than the day before the primary election, Cawthorn would have easily won. He took 12 out of 15 counties as it was and won the ‘ election day in person voting by over 2,500 votes (he lost overall by only 1,319 votes.)
Budd vs Beasley for the Senate general election will be a tight one, depending on turnout and muckraking. This will be the 1st NC general election when the largest block of registered voters are ‘unaffiliated’ with either party !
The Democrats have previously always been the largest block of registered voters by 100,000’s over Republicans or unaffiliated.
Current stats as of 5/17/22
D=2,493,492
R=2,198,612
L=48,979
U=2,532,944
Total=7,274,027 (not sure why this figure is +37,558 registered voters above the one stated above that they used for voter turnout percentage, but the 5/17/22 is the official NC count of registered voters)
I’m a hard-core Trump supporter but if I were in Cawthorn’s district I would not have voted for him. He’s too outrageous. I was surprised that Trump endorsed him.
Now at this point conservatives need to simply vote for Edwards in November and not be emotional about it. We need that House seat. We need to have the House majority.
If I was in Cawthorn’s district I would have voted for him because his voting record is very good and he stirs things up. But yes he needs to mature.
But, I wholeheartedly agree with your 2nd paragraph!
I voted for him I will not vote for Edwards.
Why do we need “that House seat”? Just curious.
Because Brian Fitzpatrick has “that House seat” here in SE PA.
And he votes with the Democrats and Uniparty without fail.
Get off the RINO bus.
Do you not understand the importance of House and Senate majorities?
Not stuffed with RINOs.
Sorry. Done playing the R vs. D Uniparty Board Game.
They treat my tax dollars like Monopoly money.
But you voted for Trump after the Billy Bush tape?
Funny how some are turned off by one thing, but can live with something else.
I am in Cawthorn’s seat and I voted for him; I couldn’t wait to vote for him. He had a major smear campaign run against him funded by Thom Tillis’ PAC. They paid people for old photos and stuff you twist into a smear.
Trump waited until the night before to endorse him? Worthless….Madison spoke at Trump’s j6 rally and has been harassed by the swamp ever since; they tried to remove him from the ballot and still working on it. I am disappointed in Trump for not endorsing him sooner. No one heard about it I am sure…
I don’t vote for RINOs .. no way I will vote for Edwards, Tillis’ puppy. I wonder if Tillis is one of the people inviting Madison to sex orgies…I wouldn’t be surprised, he’s always portraying himself as a prayer…always prayer…sure…I wish Madison would release the names of the sickos in congress.
Agree…Trump did not show support for him until the night before? You need a week for the word to get around. I am an unaffiliated.
Kathy Barnett seems to be benefitting right now from the mail-in ballots, more than any other candidate. I did a screen shot 3 hours ago, everyone’s percentages have gone down except hers which has gone up. Here’s what I have for the top three, at 9:23am and at 12:23pm:
Barnett 315,029 -> 322,423
Oz 402,632 -> 409,257
McCormick 401,133 -> 407,156
Barnett’s vote count has increased by 7394 in 3 hours compared to Oz by 6625 and McCormick by 6023. Does anyone else find this odd?
They’re fr/ a county that she was expected to do well in.
Allegheny?
I was just listening to this on MSNBC.
I may have heard it wrong. But I think that’s what they said.
That’s where Pittsburgh is, so it’s probably true. The black vote was getting out for her in that area.
This is Philly, but, assume Pittsburgh area was same.
She’s young. Hopefully she’ll run again, and Trump will stay out of it next time.
The wear on her face … I remember first meeting her very early in her House run. And she’s still smiling.
Our version of Sarah Palin happened here. Unfortunately, our version couldn’t cut her teeth more in the relative quiet of Alaska.
PA is very ugly, major league politics. She did great. Worked her butt off, unlike Lazy Lou. Trump should have endorsed her.
She has such a great reaction to her detractors. Just laughs it off.
That’s true sanity right there and exactly what you need to survive well.
Laugh it off and move forward in confidence.
PA sure is ugly. My brother has attempted to run for office a few times, and each time the main obstacle has been the PA GOP.
One time he went to them asking for help with his campaign. They said, “come back to us after you get your first million dollars. Then we’ll decide if we can help you.” So basically , come back when you no longer need our help, and we’ll decide about helping you. ”
Another time they told him that he didn’t need to go out and get his petitions signed, that they would have people do it for him. Of course no one did. I think he trusts them a little less now, but he still doesn’t see them for the monsters they are.
They, in this case= PA GOP
It’s awful here.
The best way to do it is to do it yourself. They’ll run a splitter against you, but if you do a good job, you’ll beat them.
The model for that is Joe Gale in MontCo. The GOP runs a splitter against him every time. And he beats them, every time. He’s a bit MAGA, too.
Tell your brother to keep swinging, and to reach out to the grassroots, not the GOP.
If PDJT had endorsed her the left would have used her twitter comments against him as well. Perhaps he was aware of them already
You mean like they did in 2016?
Are we falling for the ‘mean tweets’ ploy again?
He has a RECORD TO RUN ON NOW – compared to Biden’s economy
why is this so hard to grasp.
we dont need anymore bullshit – he has the record. run on it and win.
He endorsed Cawthorn, WB.
What you should ask yourself is Will Barnette campaign for PDJT? answer that and you got your answer on her.
she can say Yes = Loved
she can say No = unknown
Kathy Barnette has been all-in on PDJT since the beginning.
Will she support and campaign for him? She is already doing it.
Will she support Mehmet Oz? Not so much.
Positions on the issues matter. Oz supports abortion.
I heard a bit from the talk radio show that replaced Rush today. I guess they had all three of the top contenders on their show the day before elections (very fair of them) and they spoke positively about Barnette saying she had a credible showing. Hannity comes on after them here; I am no longer even going there for snippets…I have a black radio station I can listen to and they play great music.
Just a WAG, but now she will have what she needs to blow out Dean in PA-4, even against the MontCo vote corruption.
Especially if PDJT campaigns for her there.
She won MontCo convincingly last night, even against Trump’s boy.
Do it, Kathy. Then you can climb from there.
Oh that would be great if she could get a House seat!
Hate to think we’d have to wait 6 years.
And , you’re right, she got Mont Cty- Bigly!- over both Oz and McC.
She also won Berks and Lancaster Counties.
That is wonderful “Patriot Country”. MAGA Land.
A PDJT endorsement would have put her over the top last night.
I agree. If he would have endorsed her it would have been a win.
Trump’s living in a little bubble world if he didn’t realize this woman could win PA.
A shame she didn’t have more$$$ fr/ the start for ads, etc.
Hopefully, next time she runs, that’ll all change.
Problem is, Senate seats only come along every 6 years.
That’s why she should circle back to PA-4, and not lose momentum sitting around.
She’s a national figure now, with more gravitas.
If PDJT gets behind her there, she wins it.
A great counter to The Squad for four years.
I don’t think Trump needs to get behind her for her to win the next round.
All he needs to do is NOT endorse anyone else.
So endorse or stay out of the race all together – she’s good either way.
Trump showing up at the upper end of MontCo or in north central Bucks (like he normally does) to rally for her would drop a political nuclear device on PA-4, and on the MCRC that never Trump impedes every MAGA candidate there.
And it would flood her war chest. Dean needed national money last time, in addition to vote fraud, to beat het.
Oz had PDJT’s back on the hydroxychloriquine issue.
period – thats who he was going to pay back for the loyalty. the split was in after Barnette’s crew didnt get it, and instead got excited about Rove money – to get more votes to aid the split more to get McCormick
this is evil shit. they are good at this. we keep thinking we can figure it out without “getting Strategic”
What “Rove money”?
Are you still waxing on about the CFG thing?
Then Madison Cawthorn and Lauren Boebert are getting “Rove money”, too.
. . .
Question to all the Oz boot lickers: If McCormick actively steals this race from Oz with “late mail in votes”, are you all going to mindlessly support him in the general, like good little Uniparty foot soldiers?
Thats a dillema the Barnette 28% caused.
who the hell knows what insane stuff we have to do now.
Why don’t we start by not endorsing RINOs like Dr. Oz.
You should stop the arguing (and I know you’re not the only one doing it). It’s counterproductive. Everyone should vote for the GOP nominee regardless who it is. The House and Senate majorities are #1 important. We need to get those majorities back.
Hey, I hear Hillary is going to be the GOP nominee.
Should I vote for her?
We need to get those majorities back.
Some people on this site would.
If Hillary was a GOP candidate than she had to have a “Road to Damascus” moment and, “YES” vote for her.
I lost my Congressman Madison Cawthorn to a RINO assisted by a smear campaign funded by Thom Tillis’ PAC. I do not vote for RINOs or scums like Tillis. I will not be voting for this position in November; the Dem opponent is an extremist progressive commie so no choice.
You have indeed made a choice.
Thom Tillis voted NOT GUILTY in both impeachment trials on all articles.
EVERY SINGLE LIVING BREATHING DEMOCRAT VOTED “GUILTY’!!!
Now you equate Tillis with Democrats.
foot soldiers? ugh
if you listened and understood the big picture with the Senate, OZ was the pick
“If McCormick actively steals this race from Oz with “late mail in votes”, are you all going to mindlessly support him in the general, like good little Uniparty foot soldiers?”
It’s not mindless voting just because you disagree with it.
National Figure at the expense of the Senate seat.
You can thank Trump for that.
Barnette was running for Senate here long before Oz flew in on his magic carpet from Jersey.
I guess all the Oz sycophants just expected her to end her campaign and withdraw … because he showed up.
That’s not how we do things here in PA. Oz was the late interloper in this race.
Too bad that Parnell imploded and turned RINO … another bad “total endorsement”.
and she lost too
And Oz may very well lose, too.
Even with Trump’s ten point endorsement.
I firmly believe that if Trump had endorsed Barnette she would have won.
It disappoints me that so many people who consider themselves MAGA or conservative so quickly change positions as soon as some smear campaign is launched against one of their own. You never see leftist caving to smear campaigns..they keep on going and win because they stick with their candidate and vote.
Thom Tillis voted “Not Guilty” in both impeachment trials of President Trump and every Democrat, EVERY DEMOCRAT, voted for impeachment. A few posts above us you say you won’t vote AT ALL, rather than vote for the Republican that Tillis supports.
Maybe the answer to why Democrats win more often is due to their ability to hold their noses and vote for any Democrat rather than wait till a better candidate comes along etc?
If I was a Pennsylvanian I would have voted for Oz because President Trump endorsed him. My heart would have belonged to Barnette.
Kathy Barnette’s morning video is full of grace, love, and optimism.
Hopefully she can put efforts into working with Mastriano’s campaign to get him to victory.
She can run for Senate again in two years. Or, perhaps she has better chance at another congressional run (I wish she would move to a solid red district though).
Don’t know what her future plans are….but wish her great success.
name recognition building is why she cut Oz in the neck and PDJT.
Be a Voice with that Story she has – why does it need to be a Senate Seat? Campaign with EVERY candidate across the country.
period. she knew she wouldnt win. we knew the Hummingbird ROve play would put McCormick in as a win.
Why did Oz start with a Senate run?
Barnette ran for PA-4 last cycle, where she happens to live.
What did Oz do, besides travel to Davos?
She was here in PA working the communities and churches, long before the Turkish carpetbagger arrived with his TV crew.
https://www.businessinsider.com/dr-oz-false-misleading-baseless-medical-claims-coronavirus-2020-4?op=1#oz-pushed-hydroxychloroquine-to-fight-the-coronavirus-even-though-its-effects-were-still-unproven-1
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dr-oz-will-renounce-his-turkish-citizenship-if-elected-to-senate-i-will-only-be-a-u-s-citizen
That’s some great Monday morning quarterbacking right there.
What was he saying in 2020, when the ‘pandemic’ was being used to destroy and shut down PA … even the Christian churches? Oh that’s right, he wasn’t even here then.
He was too busy pushing mask mandates on TV …
I know what Barnette was doing in PA in 2020. Pounding backyards and streets all over PA-4.
Barnette marched for her loss.
Covid was an attack on this country -and its the central issue – it facilitated the steal.
break the Covid wall in talking to the public – you usher in the ELECTION STEAL next.
I love how she spoke out about Hannity…I hope he loses audience over this…what a jerk.
Barnette has been quietly doing major outreach to the black community in urban areas. Storming the black churches. She was preparing for the general in that way. Don’t think it won’t pay some dividends even in the primary.
But not enough to overcome what was negatively done to her, by EVERYBODY. Including PDJT. And sadly even including our erstwhile host. A total pile-on. Even by our own people.
And she still pulled over 24% of the vote, spending next to nothing. Why? Because she has a terrific pro-MAGA message.
Can you imagine what she would have done with the extra 10 points (and all the collateral donations) that comes with a PDJT endorsement?
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I wouldn’t vote for a candidate who refused to disclose her spouse’s name and occupation. For all we know, he works for the friggin’ CIA. Anyone can talk.
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its over- we knew the outcome days ago.
Rove won.
She’s taking the ball and going home:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/16/exclusive-kathy-barnette-refuses-to-support-gop-nominee-for-senate-if-it-is-not-her/
If it’s a globalist, she’s not playing the game.
And neither are a lot of the base here in PA.
Got a problem with that? Or are you still into the R vs. D Uniparty scam?
Going to have to have a new “Wrap up Smear” type smear name for what the GOP establishment did to Barnette.
Not sure what the official smear designation should be for this one but it was big enough to deserve a special moniker.
McCormick self professed Marxist..Barnette..definitely without a doubt doomed the runaway Oz would have gotten had..all those with grander..ridiculous dreams had not pushed Barnette..Now..it will be McCormick..People need to consider the area not just what you idealize..Sometimes..you have to weigh it all..I know Pa..I lived there..and it is most definitely a moderate state and Oz Should have been the one we pushed. No he isn’t lock step conservative but it was just picking apart everything..to make him look as bad as McCormick and he is absolutely not..a Marxist.
PDJT gave OZ ten points, and it still may not be enough. That’s how weak he is.
Trump doomed Barnette by dragging a weak carpetbagger in here.
Flip the script, and give those ten points to Barnette, and watch her beat McCormick last night.
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Trump didn’t doom Barnette. She was not an apparently viable candidate when he endorsed what appeared to be the only reasonable alternative to McCormick.
Did we not learn a lesson with Obama? There is something deeply wrong with a candidate who will not disclose things as basic as her spouse’s name or other simple biographical details without vague fudging.
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Carl E. Barnette. Took 30 seconds. Probably took the Oz and McCormick campaigns 30 seconds, too.
If there was anything negative about him, I’m sure they or CNN would have used it.
He obviously isn’t a TV personality, or an ex-government aide like the other spouses. Is that a disqualifier for you? Would it have influenced your vote if he was just a plumber or a laborer?
Would you like their home address? Are you planning to protest there?
Would you like their children’s shoe sizes and school grades? You’ll have to write Kathy a letter at her home address if you want those.
Good grief. The ridiculous things that people get hung up on …
Pro Tip: The Barnettes actually live in Montgomery County, PA, unlike Oz and McCormick.
McCormick left PA a long time ago to go run Bridgewater. And Oz ‘resides’ in PA … via his wife’s family.
seat lost.
Maybe Trump should have endorsed a little better.
Oz was a weak candidate.
as soon as PDJT endorsed Oz and Rove funded Barnette – we know the outcome would be McCormick.
we got played – the end of it. we take pride in being free minded. get ready free fight.
“Rove funded Barnette”.
Do you know how utterly foolish you sound?
Have you ever even been to Montgomery County, Pennsylvania?
she doesnt have to like him – for him to push her to hurt us.
no one is saying she isnt a good person.
Money to promote her – to get votes for her – but Rove only spends enough to get her promoted to increase her votes a little.
Hard to blame Oz’s possible loss on Barnette, Dottie , when she was:
1) a much better candidate th/ Oz and
2) there are at least a couple of lower ranking Maga candidates who could have dropped out altogether and theoretically their votes could’ve gone to Oz.
Sands and Bartos alone have over 130K votes, combined. And then there are a couple others even less votes.
What do Pennsylvanians have against runoff elections? But given what has already happened, perhaps not having them is an act of mercy on the voters?
Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
@Peoples_Pundit
Ohio and Texas were already big indications of a turnout disparity that favors Republicans.
North Carolina and Pennsylvania—the former being more impressive to me, frankly—are a real bad sign for Democrats come fall.
2:50 PM · May 18, 2022·
One word: “Dominion”
Here’s something the Dems can use against Oz- if he wins in PA.
And the article’s fr/ the NY Post, so it’s not a left wing rag.
Yesh Ginsburg
@yesh222
Looks like the big vote dump just now was Franklin County absentees. McCormick outright won them over Oz by a bit over 100 votes. That’s very impressive, because he lost the Election Day vote to Oz in Franklin by 1400 votes.
That was a big one for McCormick. He needed it.
2/. This does not mean McCormick has the advantage now. He’s still on track to catch up to just about even.
However, McCormick needed this. If Franklin had come in marginally on track with its E-Day votes, it would have sealed things for Oz. Oz still leads, but things aren’t sealed.
1:53 PM · May 18, 2022
hey cheaters, how many more votes to we need to make for McCormick?
CNN has Oz @ 29.5
Barnette @29.0
McC @ 24.6
Maybe they haven’t updated Franklin yet? Don’t know.
InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
PENNSYLVANIA — Republican turnout in is outpacing 2018 by 543,000 votes
Republican Turnout in PA Primaries
2022: 1,400,000 (+543,000)
2018: 857,000
📈PA: GOP turnout is 63% higher than 2018 with GOP turnout surpassing DEM turnout for the first time in 10 YEARS
11:05 AM · May 18, 2022·
The Xerox machines in Philadelphia are still outpacing those registrations.
Problem Number One in PA.
100% ^
very slowly chipping away in PA. Same thing they did in 2020 after they illegally extended the count deadline. It never ever works the other way.
The GOPe has access to the Xerox machines here, too. Uniparty privileges.
Remember, it was the GOPe here in PA that passed Act 77 in the first place.
Think about it, 900,000 votes in few hours. 30,000 votes in 5 days
Do you think they’re done counting in PA for the day? Or are they supposed to continue into the evening?
It depends on what time Staples closes.
“Pennsylvania is still processing thousands of mail ballots in the too-close-to-call race.”
Thanks to GOP Uni-party corruption, cowardice, co-operation with the Dems and incompetence, some elections are still unreliable. All those that looked away and ignored the 2020 fraud, and are still ignoring it, are contemptible.
How many fraudulent mail-in-ballots will there be this time? I hope it’s not enough to make a difference in the outcome.
Their still voting with mail in ballots, the same voting machines, the same tabulators and the same printed off cheap copy machine ballots.
What could go wrong?
Their still voting with mail in ballots, the same voting machines, the same tabulators and the same printed off cheap copy machine ballots.
What could go wrong?
I want a state mandated, personalized, watermarked ballot. Meaning each ballot belongs to one living person. Mail in ballots for the military is transported by the military in sealed boxes. People who have a medical exemption, local sheriff’s departments deliver said ballots. Picture Id verification for every ballot. Voter fraud, minimum 3,650 days in jail for each count, to run consecutively.
Have to wonder WTF is with election integrity in PA. Nearly two years since the last debacle and appears nothing has changed much. Good luck PA in 2024!
Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
@Peoples_Pundit
Interesting, @DrOz won the most Trumpy counties in Pennsylvania, meaning counties that were once Democratic strongholds in which DJT made the most inroads to include Luzerne, Monroe, Greene, Pike.
So, there goes the central thesis that he would not appeal to Obama/Trump voters.
6:11 PM · May 18, 2022
Election Wizard 🇺🇸
@ElectionWiz
ELECTION ALERT: PA GOP Senate
Dr. Oz leads David McCormick by just over 1,200 votes.
>95% reporting.
8:22 PM · May 18, 2022
Looks like she’ll remain a strong voice?
Hope so!