One would think a United States Supreme Court hearing containing emergency oral arguments about a federal mandate that impacts more than 100 million Americans in the workforce would mean the justices would be well prepared and full briefed with the latest information.
Alas, in an embarrassing display of judicial outlooks, activism and incompetence, the leftists on the court appeared to just be making stuff up in order to protect the current White House occupant.
Justice Bryer cited 750 million Americans infected yesterday as his reference point to justify his support for Joe Biden. Unfortunately for justice Bryer there are only 350 million Americans alive. It would be an ordinarily embarrassing mistake if the issues were not so serious. However, given the nature of the constitutional issue here, these types of statements only reflect the abject nonsensical nature of a highly politicized supreme court.
Taking Bryer’s ball of insanity across the finish line, Justice Sotomayor, another leftist communist in a black robe, stated: “100,000 kids are currently in the hospital”, FALSE; that the “Omicron variant has been more deadly than Delta,” FALSE; COVID deaths are at an “all time high”, FALSE; and worse yet, “OSHA’s regulatory authority is part of the federal police power,” again FALSE.
Additionally, as to the aspect of the argument surrounding Monday’s federal deadline of mask enforcement for all unvaccinated workers, all of the leftist communists on the court held firm in their belief that masks stop the virus, false. This issue has even been conceded by officials in the same administration now tasked with enforcing a mask mandate they admit is not based in science.
As TechnoFog accurately noted in his immediate reaction: “It’s hard to convey the disrespect showed by Justices Sotomayor and Breyer today. 100 million Americans are affected by the Biden COVID mandates. And these Justices showed up unprepared, inventing COVID numbers to support whatever legal conclusion they’ve already reached.” Techno is unfortunately accurately stating the obvious.
Justice Sonia Sotomayor, a diabetic since childhood, didn’t even appear in the courtroom, choosing to remain in her office at the court and take part remotely. Two lawyers, representing Ohio and Louisiana, argued by telephone after recent positive Covid-19 tests.
WASHINGTON – Supreme Court justices seemed divided during an oral argument hearing on Friday as plaintiffs challenged President Joe Biden’s vaccine-or-test mandate, just days before it is slated to take effect for workplaces with 100 or more employees.
The first attorney to speak Friday was Scott Keller, representing the National Federation of Independent Business that is challenging the mandate enforced by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Keller asked the justices to “immediately stay” the agency’s Emergency Temporary Standard before Monday.
Justice Clarence Thomas opened by asking: “How are we to decide when an emergency temporary standard or emergency temporary standards are necessary?”
The liberal-minded justices primarily questioned the legitimacy of arguments against the mandate, citing that the COVID-19 pandemic continues to affect hospital capacities. They also noted the inherent ease of spread of COVID-19 among peers. Meanwhile, the majority of conservative-leaning justices raised more skepticism about OSHA’s ability to issue a nationwide vaccine-or-test mandate. (more)
There is a glimmer of hope, as noted by the Associated Press: “The Covid circumstances did not appear to outweigh the views of the court’s six conservatives that the administration overstepped its authority in its vaccine-or-testing requirement for businesses with at least 100 employees.
“This is something the federal government has never done before,” the chief justice, John Roberts, said, casting doubt on the administration’s argument that a half-century established law, the Occupational Safety and Health Act, confers such broad authority.”
Justice Roberts, Justice Kavanaugh and Justice Coney-Barrett, probably hold the key to the outcome in both cases (mask and vaccine mandate). Unfortunately, all three have been receptive to state-level vaccine requirements in preceding cases. Whether they will support the first ever federal vaccine mandate, is yet to be determined.
Ugh.
I wrote a short story years ago about a man who created a Frankenstein.
The beast was allowed to be animated for a
Brief time by life, intelligent life.
His questions came to one main issue. You made me now I’m yours, forever. How do you plan to care for me.
I’m not taking credit for it, I realize today why that was burned in my mind.
Is that not what we see now?
These godlike elites marvel in their abilities to destroy all critical thinking and enslave us in ignorance for control.
Now, they created millions even billions of Frankensteins And they want to bury their experiment, literally.
Just like wind towers, solar panels, computers, phones, plastic bags, cups, bottles. All created by the super smart elite. Who think only of our filth not that it was their creation.
I like glass bottles, paper sacks, hose water never left me thirsty. And my medicine cabinet was pretty empty.
There is only one God, he knows why we were created and enjoys every one of us. You just add a dose of his salvation and the lifeless become Godly in mind and image. Without there is no life within.
This has been a colossal failure and now they must bury it, bury us. And move on to some computer hybrid I assume.
If another civilization wished to conquer our world, this would be a bang up approach. We kill off ourselves in our ignorance.
No that’s not a smartphone it’s a dumbing device, to undo all thought or thinking. Ask it.
I truly pray that “they” have not created a class of impaired people that need cared for due to vax adverse effects, because if it happens, it’s going to happen to a lot of people I care about.
Deaths among people aged 18 to 49 increased more than 40 percent in the 12 months ending October 2021 compared to the same period in 2018–2019, before the pandemic, based on death certificate data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
That’s more than 90,000 additional deaths in this age group, of which less than 43 percent involved COVID.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/prime-age-mortality-up-40-percent-majority-not-covid-19_4196936.html?utm_source=Morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2022-01-07&mktids=b4d2347e312eb74189c4b28b5d3304b7&est=n04jy5s0MrE0Z2OJNyN8%2FlF7t9FlvXDFKL8Ib%2BhnQudwL9vgg6nTOfi%2Fk%2BJk5bo%3D
https://www.thecentersquare.com/indiana/indiana-life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-are-up-40-among-people-ages-18-64/article_71473b12-6b1e-11ec-8641-5b2c06725e2c.html
FJB & the Supremes. I don’t feel very forgiving.
They are not “supreme” anything. They are too dumb to recognize that We the People have “standing” to bring an action of perversion of our voting rights. If we don’t have “standing” who the hell does?
I don’t!
I think the “cared for” is the monster they wish to bury.
They created slaves in anticipation of perfection. The only thing is they do not know perfection, only God does. He wrote it out in his manual.
I find it so perplexing that we have been given perfection. I even believe somewhere in a numeric code that all DNA is hidden in the word of God. But we always look towards the darkness for light. Why?
Or maybe even a more treacherous thing. They know the truth yet cannot stand it.
That probably is the reality we all run from.
Knowing within that evil in all its forms is ruling over us.
If we look at it and name it we then become responsible for it. People are starting to see, parents see it.
The politicians have seen and they embrace it. The judges don’t fight it with truth. Law enforcement find it much easier to live by its rules of death.
I’ve read the ending of this and it’s not just one final reality but an ongoing battle we relive over centuries.
The struggle is to refine our selves into efficient Christians. To make more through salvation. To exchange our wages for eternal rewards. But, we horde what was never ours to begin with. Only a loan to acquire a stake in our eternal future.
Lack means nothing if it’s attached to anything less than God. Nor plenty.
In faith you see, in fear you cannot. Faith comes only through love, which is God.
I truly have the answer, it’s all in the manual.
Does Covid jab contain Blutooth wireless nanotech for identification ?
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https://news4awake.wordpress.com/2021/10/01/does-covid-jab-contain-blutooth-wireless-nanotech-for-identification/
At certain points in the hearing I thought I was listening to CNN pundits.
I heard CNN producers.
We were promised a Wise Latina. Instead we got a Wide Latina.
Nope…a stupid woman, however not to be outdone 750 million from a guy.
Yes, it appears she spends a great deal of time at Golden Corral.
No I think it’s Ryan’s Family Steakhouse.
The Wise Latina isn’t just a Latina!
and strikingly ignorant which is worse in a supreme court justice.
Brought to you by Pfizer.
As I listened to much of the Oral Arguments via a live stream that Robert Barnes was occasionally commenting, I was shocked at how amateurish the justices sounded due to lack of preparation, but also, as Barnes pointed out, the “Karen” attorney only talked Dem policy, as did the liberal justices. No one was discussing the Constitution.
In spite of this, Barnes still thinks they’ll vote against the mandates. We’ll see.
The entire SCOTUS refusal to hear any election cases (lack of standing), has given me a bad impression of this Court, but today’s amateurish, unprofessional, unprepared comments only about policy and not Con Law removed any respect for most of the Justices. Nothing but political hacks.
J. Thomas should be the Chief.
Kagan sounds radicalized. She had that angry authoritarian tone that liberal women in power often have.
Karen and karens
Radicalized at the age of conception(That she doesn’t believe in). Tisk Tisk.
She could be from 1917 Russia. They had a number of female satanic revolutionaries looking to overthrow the Russian government & nation (and holocaust millions of people)
Thinking that a federal police power exists is Constitutional Law. She failed the test.
J. Thomas should be cloned; at least seven times.
I think if truth ever sees the light of day, it will be revealed that anybody who might step out out of line has had ever communication, tax record, etc. i.e. their entire life and those that they care about gone over piece by piece to establish leverage on them by the filth of the FBI and the NSA. it would take a person of such character to expose it, or a terminal diagnosis and therefore nothing to lose. Scalia might have been such a man, but we’ll never know?????
Well, the Supreme Court voted unanimously to hear Al Gore’s objection to the 2000 election. Does that count?
I believe you answered the question of why the evil murderous Democrat communists do not care that there is a lack of diversity on the Supreme Court, because they are already working for them like Sundance’s excellent article said “grand pantomime, a ruse, a Potemkin village filled with jesters, distractions and carefully coordinated illusions of false choice.” Sundance
We have no choice and we have no genuine diversity as that is a racial division used to break down and take over our institutions and place unqualified criminal puppets in place
I’m only guessing, but I think they will reject the mandate on the basis that it is primarily the worker’s right to decide how much risk they will assume. (I’m getting that mainly from Alito’s questioning.)
The justices may indeed still feel it is an unwise risk for a worker to choose NOT to be vaccinated. However, the Constitutional issue is to rule on to what extent the worker or the employer has the right to mandate that action.
I believe this case about the govt’s right to mandate…not the employer. Many courts are allowing private companies to mandate the jab. Case just ruled on in Louisiana this week with a hospital, allowed their mandate to stand.
The cart can’t come before the horse. Seat belts don’t stop car accidents. This thinking is so flawed.. Informed consent has been thrown out the window. This is absolute garbage that ruling in favor of these mandates is even feasible.
No. One. Said. Informed. Consent. Today. During. Arguments.
Kudos to Alito who came kind of close (his questioning of the solicitor general about who are we protecting exactly protecting? Are we protecting the unvaxed or the vaxed from the unvaxed?)
Which says it all
They wanna call something else “The Big Lie” whilst ignoring that particular elephant in the room.
We’re cooked.
If the justices can talk using “magic” numbers, then I need help understanding evidence. I can see something, hear something, feel something, and other individuals report the same, yet that is not an acceptable reality? What does “is” mean?
Rant cancelled in favor of scotch.
Ah, your testing yourself, to seevif you have Covid; can you SMELL the scotch?
Can you TASTE the scotch? then DO so, as you celebrate being Covid free, yet again!
But, COULD catch it, right after downing that scotch, so better pour ANOTHER test, lol.
Shoot I got covid I can’t smell my vodka
But I m still tipsy what does that mean
Slainte!
“Unite and be Free: Live Free or Die” Hamilton Rowan
Hahaha
I can taste and smell my Crown Royal Reserve!
Life is good!
I just may have to filleth my cupeth another time-eth or two-eth just to make sure that I don’t have da rona!!
How about Absinthe?
Did anyone bring up the issue that an Emergency Use Authorization by law requires that the recipient be fully informed of the risk-benefit and have the right at any time to refuse treatment or further treatment? Mandates for EUA’s are on their face illegal. Pretty simple. And it goes against the Nuremberg agreement as well. Doesn’t matter if Breyer himself is infected with 750,000,000 variants, or Sotomayor has ventilators in her car, bathroom and office.
EUA’s aso require that there are no other available effective treatments on the market, hence the massive effort to discredit HCQ and Ivermectin – both of which have proven effective against the coof and whose existence long predates any of the not-vaxx’s.
Don’t anybody mention Benadryl and a glass of milk!
They didn’t bring up ANYTHING really relevant including the Constitution.
I was absolutely flabbergasted at how ill informed they all seemed to be.
Most of the people I know, just ordinary citizens on both sides of the aisle, know more than these high and mighty justices.
Total cluster f**K – no hope at that this is going to be anything else than a total disaster for our side.
The right to refuse treatment is in place regardless of EUAs. It’s always in force in any provider-patient transaction. That’s one reason people seek second opinions, to see if another provider agrees with the treatment plan proposed by the first one consulted.
How can you refuse treatment if it’s mandated?
Of course they would argue that the mandates can stand because you can always get the FDA approved Cominarty vaccine. Which is apparently not available in the US
It would be a fools errand to have ANY faith in SCOTUS. The body that is expected to rule on Constitutional freedoms is FUBAR!
Put it this way. If we all here agree that the system of our government has been undermined, why WOULDN’T they corrupt SCOTUS?
Of COARSE they would.
nuff said?
The quiet from the communist Democrat diversity cult on the fact of the laqck of diversity on the Supreme Court means they have captured enough of them not to worry.
The border crossings under Biden are insane. Beyond our comprehension of math.
And as Breyer stated, he wasn’t being facetious. 🤦♀️
Well 750 million new cases a day and by the end of next week the world will have natural immunity.
If I were a judge, I might be tempted to use the leftist judges numbers in making my decision while citing them. 🙂
I just have to say this.
Today, I was refused in person service from my oncologist, unless I am vaxxed.
Saw the man 30 times in the last 6 months, saw him only 2 weeks ago. Nothing about covid at all.
Im having issues post treatment, and he literally refused to see me today. He also knows I have other issues, that make me high risk for the vaxx, he agreed with that assessment at the time.
Now, all of a sudden, Im dirty and unclean?
And boom, here we are. Medical tyranny.
Ill die before I take that needle, and I mean that.
It’s like paying f’in Russian roulette Sundance………Die of cancer, take the jab and maybe die too…
What a choice they have given me……its a weird feeling. I must admit.
Well next time you see him p&$nch him in the face
Oh, trust me when I say I AM that guy.
It took all I had to keep than conversation civil and professional.
The crappy thing is, I want a second opinion, and I literally have to kiss his butt to get one. That is the rules, so his nurse told me. I have to play nice if I want to go somewhere else….
What a f’ed up situation. My words away from this board are, much, much stronger.
I am now that person, about whom we have all spoken about…
A man, who has absolutely nothing left to lose.
Either way, Im a dead man, eventually. I dont quite know how to process all of that, never mind today.
God must lead me, because at this moment, I have nothing…..
I worry about my family, and our future, as human beings. We must not comply, no matter what it takes.
Since you are a no vax kinda guy, I’ll throw this out there…(maybe you agree about the anti-parasitic treatments?)
Have you read Joe Tippin’s experience with cancer? He started taking dog dewormer several years ago.
Fascinating story- he’s updated his protocol. Here’s a link:
https://cancerlist.org/joe-tippens-fenbendazole-protocol/
I’m sorry man. I’ve had surgery where they screwed up and refused to fix it. That’s going on 8 years now. I already lost faith in the healthcare system at that point. I don’t know what you’re going through but trust me when I say I’d have probably done more than punch your doctor if he’d said the same thing to me. His nurse would have probably had to call an ambulance for him.
Have you seen Joe Tippens site “My Cancer Story Rocks?” Might be worth a look. I am wondering if Ivermectin and CBD oil could also be good choices. Best wishes. Going outside today’s medical establishment may be a door opened, not closed.
This is terrible Bob, I hate that you are going through this.
Have you thought about calling a lawyer? There are legal clinics that might be able to help.
May God be with you and your family.
YOu pay up front cash for a second opinion if he won’t refer you and because he won’t your insurance won’t pay for it.
If you can’t afford that, have a Go Fund Me started. Call the guy/woman you wish to see. for a consult. Ask his cash price.
Bob, I am praying for you, your healing and your family.
I’m not trying to push anything on you, please know. I don’t know what your beliefs are other than you mentioned you needing God to lead you in your post. I am sharing with you from a pure heart what I have personally experienced in hopes that it may bring help and hope, and based on what you’re going through, I am meaning only the utmost care and respect for you.
I don’t usually recommend preachers or teachings to people unless it is someone I am close with when I know where they stand, but because of the urgency of your post I’m going for it–of course, you can take it or leave it–I totally understand. I don’t work for this ministry or anything like that, so there is no stake in this other than me sharing what has helped me tangibly.
As of late (mid-December), I stumbled across a teaching by someone named Andrew Womack called The Word Became Flesh. I haven’t ordered the series but caught a few of his programs between 12/12 and 12/31. After praying about it to God myself, I have been putting in the time and applying the teachings which are scriptural (not blab it grab it stuff), and have been seeing actual blessings manifesting in my life over the last few weeks as well as my relationship with Christ deepening. I have been going through some pretty intense challenges that have greatly impacted my life and functionality, not life or death at this time, but pretty scary, nonetheless. I can honestly say that I have been experiencing the true love of God in a much more personal way as I spend more time in His word and in prayer, and understand Him, and I am starting to see actual symptoms of sickness abate, and dire stressors abate over the last few weeks. I know faith is a personal walk and not one size fits all, so I make no promises on what your experience will be–that is between you and God, but I feel I would be remiss in not sharing something that has been life-changing for me, in hopes it could be a blessing to someone else in need.
If your beliefs are different than mine, please know I mean no disrespect and of course, I pray for the very best for you, regardless. If they are similar, then I hope this below also brings you blessings:
As I am also working on building my faith in my own life, I’m working on this scripture and passing it along to you with love–Speak to the mountain! Mark 11:19-25.
I am holding you up in prayer that God gives you His peace (John 14:27), clear direction (Psalms 32:8), favor in your dealings (including with the doctors! Psalms 5:12), full healing and recovery (Isaiah 53:4-5, Psalms 103:1-5)!
I also speak in faith (Proverbs 18:21) a curse to that cancer in your body and to any hindrances to all the love and blessings God has for you; and I speak health to your body, peace to your soul (Philippians 4:6-7), and love to your spirit (Romans 8:38-39) in Jesus’ Name, Amen and Amen!
God bless you and keep you close to His heart.
With love,
J
Please, take a day or two. You are right that God will lead you.
listen and he will lead you brother. We are all praying for you.
Please do NOT advocate violence here. It’s a good way to get the site sued or shut down.
Well, I get it, but sometimes, you just have to say the truth. My doctor deserves that, and saying so, isn’t going to get the place shuttered. I understand Mike’s position and so should you. We arent altar boys here.
We are talking about medical tyranny, and my life is on the line here. Not yours, or anyone else’s. Im pretty sure what he said is on the light, light end of what really should be said, and done.
Yeah Doc. needs a beatdown. Not advocating violence though. Lol.
You should ask if he takes IVM and high dose D, and if not, blast his ratings page reviews as some stupid as well as lousy.
At some point drs have to be held accountable. And fired.
My heart goes out to you and I marvel at your courage. May God have mercy and compassion for you.
Wow, that’s cruel. Damn cruel.
Dox him.
Given his intransigence at working collaboratively with you and your treatment issues, you might want to ask your PCM for an Oncology second opinion referral instead. And with the oncologist’s disinformed stance on vaccination, it may ultimately be a blessing in disguise that he is forcing you to look elsewhere for care. Praying for God’s favor, provision and healing of your body.
That’s funny Sundance!
Wait, that means we all got the rona yesterday, and our unborn children and grandchildren got it too. I had no idea it was this bad.
Dahum, I going straight to get the clot-shot right effen now. They wuz right all along.
We are not property of the Vaccine Industrial State.
I don’t care if these Tuskegee Injections make you taller, smarter, richer, better-looking or make you date super-models.
Every person alive has a God-given Vaccine Exemption if they so choose.
Period.
That is ALL that matters.
Has Phizer come out with a commercial yet where getting the booster lands you the sexy girl and makes you the life of the party?
Don’t give them any ideas.
We don’t lie – lie – lie… Like our previous winners Whitman, Price and Haddad. You remember them! (Stills appear of the corpses in the locker room) There they are at this very moment, basking under the Maui sun. Their dept to society paid in full.
Vaxxweiser.
Not to mention the obvious fact that by getting jabbed you are hoping to use the product of a genocidal fetal tissue industry to enhance your own health, which amounts to a kind of cannibalism. I mean, Hitler and Stalin and Mao were bad news, but they never did anything like this. They just killed tons of people.
Nothing of this magnitude of evil has ever been done before. We’re into soylent green territory, torturing and then slaughtering the most innocent among us and hoping to use them for our own physical gain.
Of all the colors they could have used for that movie, they chose “Green”.
the we BETTTER get use to the idea of hiding, housing, feeding, and supporting the unvaccinated.
and that means alliances with vaccinated.
More likely that the unvaxxed will be feeding you. It has something to do with looking out for yourself and questioning others.
under the floorboards?
“Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. The more uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely what is right and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has been the work of men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men who have whooped them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man is always skeptical and tolerant, in this field as in all others. His culture is based on “I am not too sure.”
― H.L. Mencken
Sounds like they are looking for an excuse to trample our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution. They are only supposed to rule on the legality of the Executive overreach.
If SCOTUS decides “threat” is above the constitution then we are in very deep sh@t. I fully expected the wise Latina and her eggplant counterpart to already have made up their minds in favor of FJB (in actual fact Obama). The rest need to cut the was compassionate crap and stick to the constitution. This is getting nuts.
The fact that the communists are not pushing the lack of religious or racial diversity on thee Supreme Court means they have it stitched up. That would be an educated guess knowing their evil methodology
Alito pointed out – OSHA has no right outside of the work place. so in general – vaccines are outside the workplace cause you cant take it off once you leave.
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the devil’s trick is to pass the OSHA mandate focusing on the masking and testing enforcement at the SUPREME COURT level.
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How can masking and testing be used to create a social credit system? Answer this.
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/f/immunity-status-check-point-to-enter-into-commerce
Even if vaccines only worked while in the workplace it is irrelevant. Proponents claim that people must be vaccinated to protect the vaccinated – idiocy! Hardcore idiocy.
their response to your logic is to train the public it works for a short period of time. and it must be refilled periodically.
what is your answer to that next level brainwashing that is working. ? you can always fight them, but if you are trying to wake them up you must address propaganda with logic or sometimes MORE propaganda.
Since boosters seem to wane at an increasing rate, carry it to it’s conclusion: they will need non-stop boosters. They’ll be walking around with an IV bag 24/7.
Where’s your evidence that boosters wane at an increasing rate?
All medications and vaccines wane in efficacy, because immune system response decreases INEVITABLY with age. No matter whether you do everything else to live right or wrong, the longer you survive, the less able you will become to fight off diseases. I think many are in denial about that, believing if they only consume the magic balance of supplements, they can stave off the process of time.
Diligently pursuing the very optimum balance of diet and exercise will not grant you a single extra day of life. What superior care and habits does do is optimize the QUALITY of whatever life is programmed into your cells already.
initially no booster, then booster at 6 months, now booster at 5 months
Well now, that’s an interesting comparison you are using–comparing waning vaccine efficacy in less than a single year to waning vaccine and medication efficacy over a lifetime or even just 10 or 20 years.
Now your overall implication that we ‘age as we age’ and we all are going to die in the end is indeed a given fact.
Go full on stupid and wear Tinfoil hats and bubblewrap jackets. Wear T-shirts or hats pointing out the Liberal insanity. This is going full on Animal Pharm
Doubling down on stupidity is the mentally ill liberal way. Example: Talking about reducing US Green House Gases while allowing in millions of green house gas adding muslim & turd world immigrant invaders, that will also add pollution, and destroy open spaces/wildlife habitat that fake Watermelons lie and pretend they want to protect. Their stupidity,insanity, and gullibility to the communist string pullers is a true danger to Heritage America and our environment
Yes, that was a good point. The libs won’t buy it though.
The Constitution does not give the Feds the power. Congress has not given Biden the power. Thus the the power goes to the States. The Feds should act as a scientific and equipment research and clearing house. Feds buy all the stuff and the States request it as part of the PO. Feds do all the science and give it to the Governors to manage with their particular state.
That is why we are the UNITED STATES, not the United anything else.
Federal govt has NO LEGITIMATE, CONSTITUTIONAL authority, with regard to healthcare or public health, at all.
Federal govt doesn’t licence Drs, Nurses, pharmacists, hospitals or ambulance companies, the STATES do.
Federal govt doesn’t certify health insurance companies to sell policies, the STATES do.
The Federal govt actually has NO authority to dictate ANY aspect of healthcare.
Initially, Marajiuana was “outlawed” by TAXING it, and people arrested for possesing mj, were actually being arrested for TAX violation.
FDA actually has NO legal authority to declare SOME medications “Rx only”, others “OTC”, and SOME “Rx only ‘controlled substances'” with additional restrictions.
Like many areas of life, the Feds butted in, and the States never defended THE STATES rights, and the rights of its citisens.
And often some false narrative generated BY the Federal govt, was used to justify the intrusion.
Just give THEY da finger
Well let’s be serious. It’s not like SCOTUS is always on the side of individual rights via looking at our founding documents. Dred Scott, Plessy, Korematsu, Kelo. At the end of the day they are 9 men and women and we decide whether they have credibility or not. Just like the DOJ and the other overseers they can rule by fiat but they won’t get our consent. We have been and are continuing in dark times in our Republic. Onward.
As I posted on the other thread, John Roberts should be embarrassed that such lies were spoken by a sitting SCOTUS justice in his courtroom. We have entered post-factual times. RIP to the former US of A, there really isn’t any recoving from this (and the stolen election, and the RINOs turning a blind eye to the theft, and the coup cabal walking away scot-free, and the Jan 6th farce, and so on).
If there is no God, then there are no 10 Commandments, then there are no lies.
I said no.
Oh God, how did this happen? I want to be positive but fear on my worst day that all hope is lost! I pray that I am wrong.
There is always hope.
Sotomayor just demonstrated that she is too uniformed to be sitting on the Supreme Court making decisions for the rest of us- or else she thinks WE’RE too stupid to not know she is spurting out left wing propogranda…..either way, doesn’t reflect well on her.
The more they try to push their sleft wing socialist agenda on us, the bigger their defeat will be in 2022 and 2024
If they uphold the mandates we’re not making it to 2022.
Once a hack always a hack. She’s bad news.
Think about it. Supposedly, a 6-3 conservative majority. This issue should be a slam dunk decision against the mandate. Liberals never worry about their SCOTUS picks. Never.
these Judges are caged animals, and clueless the HELL we are going through – being coerced, threatened, daily. Never having a moment of relief, stressing always about to to provide for our families in the future.
Out of touch, isolated, and cozy in their cocoons.
I agree. They lack common sense.
Thinking is not on the curriculum.
bring back the 1950 Black only colleges where debates were done, and then send every race to it!
Never let a lawyer be a medic and never let a medic be a judge….these frauds should determine if it is legal or not period. They don’t have proper medical training to make distinctions. Just like an MD has no business interpreting case law.
You know what you call the last person in a medical schools graduating class? Doctor
You know what you call the last person in a law schools graduating class ? Lawyer
Doctors…in my experience…supposedly the best and brightest…yet in the business world… the biggest suckers and idiots…
Try not to miss Papatraps’ excellent point, with which I fully agree. No one is expert in all areas. Doctors are only expert in medicine, and often only within their own specialties. Many aren’t very good at business, I also agree. That’s why you hire someone (or a company) to manage the business side of the practice, sharing the profits in return for THEIR expertise.
They don’t call it “practicing” medicine for nothing.
Right, but they still need to understand the plandemic at least on a commonsense basis.
For example:
Omicron is the least lethal variant.
Vaccinated people can be infected and transmit the ChinaFlue
Vaccine efficacy wanes a hell of a lot quicker than they originally told us .
Adverse effects very are serious and potentially lethal and not that rare.
If they don’t understand basic things like this they get caught up in the propaganda. They will not be able to rationally judge the case.
If its up to Roberts, Amy and Brett, thats the ball game, “WE” are sunk, and any optimism is misplaced.
Seriously, that they are even asking questions or pretending to deliberate, is absurd.
i’m confident Kavanaugh is the swing. if he goes with Alito then Roberts will follow.
if they are upholding it as testing and masking – i can see it passing.
Mandates will be nixed 6 to 3.
Some legal perspectives weigh in.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/legal-expert-conservative-justices-bring-markedly-different-questions-during-vaccine-mandate-oral-arguments
When it comes to how many died today, who contracted what, this many will have it tomorrow or there ain’t another hospital bed available isnt what any of these justice’s should be basing their opinion on. The Constitution does not give power to jobama or osha to mandate vaccinations. They need to actually read the document to see that it’s just not there.
I wonder do they even know that the word “Democracy” isnt in the constitution, but Republic is.
It has nothing to do with incompetence.
2022 keeps on rolling as we enter year 3 of madness…Moderna CEO announced need for boosters this fall and going forward. Let’s just keep injecting and injecting and injecting. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/moderna-ceo-were-going-to-need-boosters-in-the-fall-of-22-and-forward
Russian Roulette.
Justices’ ignorance was obvious to the world.
The US Constitution is no longer upheld, and after this decision, it might quickly become just “a thing of the past.”
It already is.
Good platform to remove the 17th.
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16 & 17 to slay the beast
I thought these justices on the Supreme Court were supposed to be smart?
Only regarding Constitutional law. They have no responsibility for expertise in any other area of knowledge. That’s what the Amicus briefs are for. The lawyers and briefs present the arguments. The justices decide which side’s argument is more convincing, within the context of legal and Constitutional precedent.
I guess they forgot constitutional law because a few of them focused on everything but the constitution.
I wish we had six conservatives on the supreme court.
I still see only two, Thomas and Alito.
Crybaby Kavanaugh usually votes with the party that made him cry. Lol
maybe we should hit him where it hurts.
start an ad campaign and meme injection – “Maybe Kavanaugh did rape those women”
maybe its worth reading, maybe not
https://www.uky.edu/~eushe2/Pajares/moral.html
Sadly I’ve thought the same. Ashamed I supported this Bush”y” RINO. He brings new perspective to Stockholm syndrome. I fell for his act hook, line, and sinker. Enough, these people think they hold all the power. Time to show them they do not.
It’s clear to me these people read the nyt and watch cnn……….
That is scary
What is the effect of supreme court justices lying to make their point….. do we have no justice now? The truth is what I say it is? What now for America if your courts can bend facts to fit their narrative
It’s Not about the Covid “Circumstances”. It’s about the Illegal Tyranny of the Feral Gov.
OSHA does not have the legal right to order Everyone to get an experimental injection. Same for CDC, FDA, NIH all medical gestapo.
Enough! No More. and I don’t care what 9 soopreme lawyers in dirty black robes pronounce from on high.
Checking the jury/Jurors box off
We’re screwed, plan accordingly. Time to get out the pitchforks.
I apologize for sounding so negative but I think SCOTUS has been compromised for quite some time now. We really are being pushed to our wits end.
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Sotomayor doesn’t even pretend to care about the Constitution. At least the other judges pretend to care. Justice Thomas is probably the only one that actually cares.
I’m not sure she’s ever read it. No matter, Leftist dogma is that it’s an outdated and racist document, and therefore has no validity.
Kagan doesn’t. She thinks the doc is so “living” that any line can be interpreted “with the times.” As all libs do, she forgets the Framers gave us a way to change what’s in it, a Constitutional Amendment, but Dems believe those take too much time and debate.
Identity politics = Idiots wielding judicial power.
Not Good.
I’ve been sitting out here on my little limb of the treehouse, reading and learning for a long, long time.
I have to say I miss the voices that have long since left. They talked sense. With the OSHA ordeal what I am reading is a lot of the same same. So let me give some of you keyboard warriors a clue about reality out there.
I have went through six jobs since this covid bullshit started. I called it for what it was from day one. I will not mask. Fired. I will not comply. Fired. I will not conform. Fired.
I have the best job I’ve ever had. The work is hard but the people and environment is great. The pay is nothing to sniff at either.
If OSHA goes thru that’s all gone for me, and many more like me. And for what???
I’ve read comments on here so many times about the hill to die on. Appears to me that hill doesn’t exist for most.
Mine was the mask. Everything after is just so much noise to me. And so much heartsick sorrow that the dream is gone.
Good Luck all. Go with God!
And these gods are supposed to be the brightest and best. We are so screwed.
The best thing we can do now is mock the **** out of the SCOTUS on social media. It’ll be easy because you can just throw the government’s own statistics back in their faces then laugh at them for it. Isolate and ridicule. The other side is good at trying to deligitimize now we need to do the same. They may not listen, but that isn’t the point. EVERYONE else will see it and see how goofified out so-called wise arbiters of Constitutional Law really are.
You can pass all the laws you want…but they don’t matter if nobody enforces them…or are too scared to. The scumbags in DC did this to Trump for four years, now it’s OUR TURN.
I was listening to the audio on the net when the crazy comments were made. Twitter went crazy. Blogs had article up w/in a half an hour mocking Breyer and Sotomayor.
In his last paragraph, Sundance notes that Roberts, Kavanaugh and Coney-Barrett have sided with the states as these issues have come before the court. Should we not expect conservative justices to rule in this manner as a matter of course? The 10th Amendment dictates that this question, and with it inter alia abortion, should be decided at the state level, not the federal. I would be shocked if a conservative court outlawed abortion, for that would be as much of a federal overreach as Roe v Wade itself. The Left would have us live in democratic Athens the Founders gave us republican Rome for a reason.
sundance, i was not aware that SCOTUS justices are allowed to not only introduce evidence, but argue that evidence in support of either side of the argument before the court. can u plz give us a quickie crash course on how/when a justice can introduce evidence for either side? i don’t mean just asking leading questions – they ALWAYS do that – i mean arguing with “evidence” that is not before the court. thanks.
back to lurking mode.
your wingman,
reeko
Let’s assume Bryer is not a senile old liberal.
750 million might represent his CCP constituency.
I will consider such an outrageously unconstitutional decision to allow these illegal orders to render the USSC ILLEGITIMATE! They will have betrayed their oaths to protect the CONSTITUTION, therefore the authority they hold due to that same document, will be null and void.
Pardon the vulgarity, but Sotomayor is nothing more than a f**king dope. One of the most overturned judges in history, she was a perfect pick to help implement the Marxist mulatto’s transformation of the country. As for Breyer, that moron seems to be channeling Mail Order Joe. God help us.
The Democrat Supreme Court Justices have to pretend that they didn’t know Fauci admitted just last week that the Covid-19 hospitalization count for children includes any child hospitalized WITH CORONAVIRUS not because of CORONAVIRUS. These people are despicable!
Frankly, that’s a distinction without a difference in terms of treating them. If a child is sick enough to need hospitalization, no one on the care team will be arguing “with” vs “because of”. The workers and providers must try and help them ALL recover. Sometimes they die or retain long-term damage. That saddens every staffer deeply.
As far as the justices, again, they have no responsibility to be expert (or even right) outside the scope of THEIR practice.
I hope justice Barrett doesnt site President Trump and argue that the vaccines may have save 100 million lives.
OSHA is over all buildings right? like the Senate and House and Supreme Court.
those idiots are vaccinated next
*Cite
If this were true, people would not object to the mandates. It’s not true.
Judge scraps 75-year FDA timeline to release Pfizer vaccine safety data, giving agency eight months
January 07, 2022
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/judge-scraps-75-year-timeline-for-fda-to-release-pfizer-vaccine-safety-data-giving-agency-eight-months