A 15-year-old Oxford High School sophomore shot 11 people Tuesday afternoon, leaving three students dead and 6 people injured. A press conference to provide early information was delayed by local authorities who were waiting for the FBI.
According to local media “the suspect, a 15-year-old sophomore student, was taken into custody within five minutes of the shooting, the undersheriff said.” One of the victims injured was a teacher at the school. Press Conference Below:
The identity or personal attributes of the suspect have not been released.
Ok so we know.
for those arriving to the thread at the top, I just posted a video of a student interview who obliquely addresses the “rumors” and “threats” alluded to from some sources
the most solid “threat” he talks about was a “cut off deer head” thrown on the grounds a month ago
about halfway down page 1 here
What is not being said is deafening.
Waiting for the FBI to hide all evidence from the press.
My feelings exactly.
Let me guess…. Just recently “vaccinated”?
I hope so, he might have infected Swallowell’s kids somehow.
Please don’t wish ill on innocent children. Pity them for having him for a dad.
I imagine the FBI had been watching this student’s social media for some time. Seems like all the local cops do now is to pickup the lattes for the FBI in these types of crimes.
Another FBI wind-up toy?
Post hypnotic suggestion. Think CIA.
And a few hypnotic drugs. All this in time for Christmas for the anti gun zealots.
Many times it’s the cold turkey withdrawal of the drugs…
MKUltra Plus Rewards Program
And Creamer, whoever he works for. Reputedly (from his own taped admission – thank you James O’Keefe) has access to a number of borderline/medicated psychopaths in various places around the country and can bring them to bear when/as needed.
It actually sounds like there are a number of these groups that have both the motive and capability to pull this kind of demented crap off, both foreign and domestic, state-sponsored or freelance-for-hire. A key question may be: how coordinated are these parallel evil efforts? or, do they start to seriously turn on each other at some point?
wow, the edit function works!
Video Games and Adderall with an SSRI back.
One of the common denominators seems to be long use of psychological meds that are suddenly removed cold turkey…
Mass shootings seem to involve a fair share of white shooters. At least that is my impression. Young (24 & under). White or Islamic. Psychogenic meds. Not always, but these guys form a core.
Most mass shooters are in fact minority, not white. https://mass-shootings.info/statistics.php
I should have specified school shootings rather than generic mass shootings. Somebody built his own database a few years ago because he could not find the school shooting info in a consolidated presentation. In the ten or so years since, somebody in law enforcement or a social sciences department must have come up with the data in a format that eases pattern recognition.
I once had to break an addiction to a psychotic drug. I had reduced to a very low dose, but when I tried to quit the nightmares and hallucinations were terrible. It took six months under close supervision to quit. I know very well how someone like this could be used.
Benzos??
Joseph Rosenbaum, definately
Perhaps a conceal carry teacher could have ended this sooner and saved lives. How did a fifteen year old get hold of the gun? If an adult did not lock it away properly he should be prosecuted. If the gun was illegally sold or lent then the person involved should also be charged with abetting murder.
It’s people like you that are part of the problem. You immediately concentrate on the gun which is an inanimate object incapable of any harm on its own. You would deprive all gun owners of liberty in a heartbeat with no thought for the far reaching consequences. You spineless idiots that upvoted this are just as guilty too. Knee jerk reactions from liberal thought. My grandkids have been around guns since they were born. They have been taught from very young that all guns are to be treated as loaded and never pointed in an unsafe direction or at anything that you are not wanting to kill. They also play lots of first person shooter video games so blaming it on video games is BS. The single biggest problem in this country is Godlessness. Period.
Well…Waukesha black racist attack fades into the background.
I wish I could debunk the FBI allowing this to happen to get the racist BLM Murdering SUV off the news feeds.
But since the FBI is corrupt and fully democrat operatives I can not.
Yes. That story wasn’t generating the needed amount of anti-2A sentiment, so they launched this unstable, soulless kid into a soft target (school-no guns allowed) to murder innocent people.
It was always in the background. Now it disappears. Except for the victims.
What “Waukesha black racist”?
You mean the possessed red Explorer SUV?
Why were they waiting on the FBI? Are they afraid to do their job, or do they simply intend to get the FBI to become a local LE agency?
Frankly, waiting on the FBI is risible. They are incompetent now, and are just the Dim party’s gestapo.
They are actually waiting for that division of the DOJ that coordinates the narrative going forward.
Exactly what they did with the “car hitting parade goers” in Wakesha.
If that is true, it must have been a DARKIE doing the killing.
The narrative will be that a gun killed children. “No mother’s child will ever be save until the guns are removed. We cannot rest.”
Bingo!! (or a Muslim)
The Community Resources Division
The FBI only used to investigate interstate crimes. Maybe this young lady shot her victims across the state line . . . Sarc.
I think the gun committed the crime of a bullet crash into a crowd.
Lady???
Missed that this was a female.
A farce of a force.
Undoubtedly another “known wolf”, albeit a young one!
There was reportedly a message from the school a couple weeks ago addressing concerns about rumors, and assuring students and parents that the matter had been addressed. I don’t know anything other than I saw this on Twitter, but for what it’s worth….
yeah … relevant questions:
what were those “rumors” that were circulating?
and what was the “incident last week”?
Here’s a video that touches obliquely on the “rumors” … round it at Stella’s place
Kid didn’t go to school today, you can listen to his reasoning
The only concrete threat he mentions is a severed deer head that was thrown onto the school grounds a month ago … not sure how it was perceived
Commentator near the end mentions a concrete warning “don’t go to school today, you will get shot” that was circulating (email? text?)
For that young man to say that “God will heal everybody,” is quite remarkable.
Too bad the reporter didn’t ask the obvious question “who told you not go go to school or you will get shot”
Based on that interview I would conclude that the kid knew the shooter or knew someone who was good friends with the shooter. How else did he know not to go to school?
That message is blank now.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFd_4MrXIAIpqm4?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFd_4MrXIAIpqm4?format=jpg&name=medium
See if you can read it here – sorry.
Thanks. I was able to read it here on the Treehouse by enlarging the image. However, if you go to that twit, the text has been removed.
Michigan has a Democommunist governor. That should help with “coordination” with the DOJ/FBI.
And a lot of Michigan residents are not vaxxed, do not wear face masks.
Let’s see what the Oakland County sheriff does. Maybe the FBI has it out for him…?
Just guessing. Oakland County is full of Communist politicians
Ever since the Oakland County Executive, Brooks Patterson died the Commiecrats have been going full mode totalitarianism. I’m surprised our Republican Sheriff Bouchard was re-elected in 2020 but I praised God that he was. They couldn’t beat him…too many voters voted for him There will be leaks about this. I didn’t see Bouchard in any of the early videos today.
After the Florida school shooting I am skeptical about everything. Sundance taught us well. My next question is who is the social worker that works with this kid? What was the trigger that brought this on? The social workers always disappear.
The FIB and crime, an unbeatable combination. Peanut butter and jelly, wine and cheese..
Locker rooms and athlete’s foot.
Warm sushi and diarrhea.
Sewage and clogged drains.
Perfect analogy.
Indeed, poetic.
Numerous rumors in the community that kids and possibly someone in admin were aware of a potential threat. However, with the Stasi there, all bets are off on what we learn from here on out.
It is almost like they were waiting outside the school,
“the suspect, a 15-year-old sophomore student, was taken into custody within five minutes of the shooting”
just watching TV
“semi-automatic handgun, 15 shots fired, multiple clips”
My 9mm holds 18 in the magazine.
yeah, that’s good for you
but the TV report specifically mentioned “multiple clips”, I took it to mean it was a quote from law enforcement
A clip is not a magazine. Handgun owners know the difference.
yeah, yeah, I know Cole (tired sigh)
I’m just telling you verbatim what was said on TV
yet I know this pedantic distinction will always follow any mention of ‘clips’
thanks for being the guy who just couldn’t resist
Handgun owners aren’t doing the reporting here. Sensationalist media types are. Gotta stick to the narrative and the “lingo” that goes with it……………
Many compact 9mm pistols have 7 or 8 round magazines. So a mag change would be necessary. Many .45cal pistols have around the same number; six in the mag and one in the chamber. Etcetera.
At this point no one knows.
well, SOMEONE knows
I quoted an onscreen TV report that mentioned “semi-automatic handgun, 15 shots, multiple clips”
So someone knew enough to report that on live TV, and it sounded like they were quoting what a police representative had said
There some that hold 32.
The High School has an onsite sheriff assigned to it. That deputy, along with one of the responding deputies took the 15 year old into custody.
Did he wait outside until the shooting stopped?
Now that the FBI is on site expect the media to report “ A gun at Oxford High School shot 11 people Tuesday afternoon at Oxford High School leaving three students dead and 6 people injured.” You know, like that car that ran over people in a Christmas parade.
I’m sorry TR, but the SUV ran over those people, the cars stole the merchandise from the mall in CA.
Deadly distraction. Which trials are currently in process?
Ghislaine Maxwell…
Deep State Logic: If they’re old enough to shoot people, they’re old enough to have sex with.
Don’t fear Maurene Comey is there, Americans should probably fear her more than Maxwell.
Why? I’m guessing she is there to put Maxwell away for life, never to be heard from again, while ensuring that none of the names in Epstein’s ‘black book’ see the light of day during the trial.
Seems like exactly what the DoJ and FBI would want, no? Practically a life insurance policy. Maxwell would then be silenced, like Assange and others.
The Epstein pilot is Already naming names.
Yeah… naming names…
He named Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Senator John Glenn, Donald Trump, and Kevin Spacey as passengers on Epstein’s plane. Names anybody who has followed this story for five minutes knows. No others.
He also said he flew Epstein’s planes around for 30 years and never, ever, EVER suspected there were underage girls involved with Epstein. So there’s that. 🙄 Please don’t get your hopes up, Dickens….
Scratch my prior response, Zy… I misread your post as being ‘fear for her more than Maxwell’…. As in her safety… You and I agree, Comey is Ms. Fixit.
The Ghislaine Maxwell trial and the exposure of rampant global pedophilia it can bring is a VERY serious threat to a large number of elite and wealthy across multiple nations. Keep an eye on any relatively quiet but sudden resignations of CFOs, CEOs, and other highly placed elite…. Word is that the judge is totally corrupt and will call a mistrial with prejudice.
A serious threat to a lot of politicians, Hollywood actors, musicians and big techies too
Jussie
Since the FBI is playing a prominent role in this incident, be on the lookout that this is a “false flag” operation, to distract from other Deep State failures. Consider that there may be an FBI informant involved, that somehow instigated this incident.
Not enough deaths with this incident to “distract from other Deep State failures”.
Collectively, we are de-sensitized to these type of shootings now unless it’s 15 or more dead. Just a cold hard fact.
I grew up in the next town over. I always considered Oxford to be exurban/rural. This is surprising.
From the article link,
A semi-automatic handgun and multiple shell casings were recovered in the school.[You know how long he was shooting,and where was the deputy]
The undersheriff said they know how the firearm made it into the school but are declining to comment on how this happened at this time.[If they know that, why did the shooting happen]
There is deputy assigned to the high school at all times. The deputy was one of the two officers who took the shooter into custody. [Must of ran out of bullets]
Assume nothing yet, its websight depicts a predominately white school and administration.
The students shown and the football team, girls basketball, all white pictures.
It has taken up 500 more students over the last several decades and sprawl has changed it, per Wikipedia from a more rural to a urban fringe school of Detroit.
We will see, but I dont count on their being enough black student for this to be racial.
The deceased are two girls one boy.
15-20 shots were fired from an automatic handgun, it is reported
so…………the kid knew how to change out a mag and re chamber a round unless he had a high capacity mag
surprised they got him alive – BTW Oxford is ~98% Caucasian; area is semi-rural, lotsa hunters, etc.
My duty weapon was a 16 round Glock; so maybe he didn’t reload? All conjecture at this point, we don’t know…
TV report specifically mentioned “multiple clips”, for what that’s worth
I took it to mean that it was a quote from law enforcement
My Glock 17 had a 17 round magazine plus one in the chamber. With two additional mags, thats a lot of bullets!
On the edge of Pontiac (12 miles)
I have several 33 round glock mags for my carbine.
“automatic handgun”
Extremely unlikely.
Glock 17?
Wrong. Semi-automatic. Big difference.
Wonder if he was vaxxed
If any of the deceased were COVID positive, there’s another WuFlu death.
They obviously need time to scrub the kids social media accounts.
And post some Kyle Rittenhouse pictures.
As of the census[2] of 2010, there were 3,436 people, 1,335 households, and 889 families residing in the village. The population density was 2,748.8 inhabitants per square mile (1,061.3/km2). There were 1,468 housing units at an average density of 1,174.4 per square mile (453.4/km2). The racial makeup of the village was 95.1% White, 1.9% African American, 0.2% Native American, 0.7% Asian, 0.7% from other races, and 1.3% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 4.4% of the population.
My children will never step foot inside a school. Ever. EVER. When I was a kid and my mother said that even if we learned literally nothing while homeschooled, we were still better off than in public school, I didn’t really believe her. Now I know what she meant.
You had one very bright mother.
A former Treeper herself and the reason I’m here.
Well, you could literally learn nothing while homeschooling and know more than public school students.
…But did he drive across state lines? (sarc)
George Carlin: If you kid turns out bad, it isn’t the school’s fault or the fault of video games or peer pressure, it is YOUR fault.
Agreed! 5 children later and lots of video games, private and public schools, grunge music, heavy metal, girlfriends, boyfriends, you name it and the only thing that mattered was lots of love,making them get out and work for what they wanted at 16, being home on time, and telling them no excuses if they got into trouble.
If he crossed state lines at some point, they will really go after him.
Six and three equals eleven ?
I know. What happened to the other two? I know it sounds like a word problem, but it’s hard to imagine being shot and not injured, even if only grazed. Slight injuries are a thing.
Maybe two of them were wearing Kevlar.
Common Core Math?🤔
Public Education??
If only there were some crisis to emphasize that people shouldn’t own guns.
Something we could go on CNN and talk about, 24 hours a day.
Something that would smother the news about the Maxwell trial and Biden’s bumbles.
If only……
Don’t forget Smollett.
Good old Juicy.🤗🤗
What authority does the FBI have in cases like these?
The FBI exists to coverup Deep State crimes . . .
And to frame opponents of the Deep State for the FBI’s own crimes.
As much as they want.
They often plan and arrange them.
None.
Could a private school get away with doing nothing under these circumstances? Are public school children guinea pigs or just fungible billing units for the teachers unions? Why is the FBI always close by but not timely in their response? Events like this never happen at private schools. School choice is a matter of safety.
Private schools can expel troubled kids, early on. Urban schools learned long ago about the need for metal detectors and armed guards. Suburban schools seem to have the majority of these events. Not quite sufficient prevention or security.
Concealed carry for teachers is best, in my opinion. Not all of them, just the ones who are willing and able (ex-military, etc.).
My take would be fungible billing units, that’s just me.
Apparently, there were known threats from early November…..
Here is what happened early in November. Graffiti in read paint and a deer head severed from road kill.
Deer head found in high school courtyard, part of vandalism incident | Oxford Leader
It’s the Community Relations Team ……………. there to alter perceptions of the hate crime.
Yea, I wonder if CRT is taught there.
So, eleven shot, three died, six injured?
11=(6+3)?
Two shot, but uninjured?
Misinformation?
Disinformation?
Honest mistake?
A reflection of CRT education?
Mustashitigan education system?
Michigan Math. Developed to keep track of Covid deaths.
…and Presidential Elections 🥴
Ooh! Let me guess!
_____arius, _____avious, _____quan, _____tae, or _____tez?
Any occurrence such as this is a crime, and a tragedy, and an evil. But given that this happens every weekend in most of our Democrat-run inner cities, passing with barely a comment, an incident like this being elevated to national news is a travesty. It’s as if our society doesn’t actually care about people being killed, as such, but only value their contribution to the prevailing narrative. It sickens me.
Sometimes I imagine that at some point discerning Romans could see the collapse of their society and what we endure around us every day is much like it.
Video: Trying to get into a classroom
What the actual f…?
Here’s a specifically incisive question (in my mind at least) to put a really fine point on it
Why was “bro” a “red flag” ? as stated by the filmer (loudest voice on the video)
And to the other students as well? (“Bro” … “he said Bro” … chatter)
Most of whom reacted with a startle. jumping back from their seats and starting the stampede out the back windows … “Go”
What is it about “bro” that set these kids scrambling?
What does “bro” signify to these kids?
“He said bro … red flag”
Are these kids speaking in politically-correct code?
As they’ve been forced to in today’s society?
Thank God for that older kid taking charge at the door
“We’re not willing to take that risk right now”
“We’re not taking that risk right now”
So what’s the translation?
I’d look up “bro” on the urban dictionary, but I don’t think it’ll be specific enough to this event
Note to FBI sleuths:
Be on the lookout for someone who says “bro”
… and ask these kids what “bro” signified to them that they all startled
… and ask the filmer why he interpreted “bro” to constitute a “red flag”
In other words, engage those kids in a “frank discussion about race” (TM) that we’ve been badgered that we HAVE TO HAVE for 20 years or more
Simple answer–LE wouldn’t use the word “Bro”. Those kids were savvy enough to figure that out.
Also the perp’s voice on the other side of the door does not sound black.
good alternate explanation, Cole
we’ll see how it turns out
just – ahem – “circling back” to acknowledge your correct interpretation, Cole
my inference turned out to be off the mark
I was interpreting ‘bro’ as ghetto speak
you more correctly identified it as teen speak and wouldn’t be used by law enforcement and that the teens judged on that basis
now that a very white shooter has been identified, I believe you made the correct analysis
cheers,
nimrodman
… and as hindsight, there’s also this
Michigan sheriff reveals that video of ‘shooter pretending to be a cop to lure students out of locked classroom’ was actually a GENUINE OFFICER
Did the shooter mention “bro” in social media posts? I assumed “bro” meant brother, comrade, friend, etc…. Maybe there is something more nefarious, as all of the kids freaked out in the video.
dunno about social media
I was just commenting on the video clip
but agree the kids kinda flipped out amongst themselves over “bro”
“Bro” is casual, not professional. It’s what you call your gaming buddies, or your close friends. Depending on tone, it can be an aggressive challenge “Come at me, bro”. When a cop wants to ingratiate with kids, he uses “buddy.”
So sad on many levels.
If my children were school age, I would definitely NOT have them in public schools- mine were in a public school system. I witnessed enough “throwing things under the rug” 10 years ago. Today, it’s magnitudes worse. It’s all about the tax dollars, salaries and wokeness.
Sharp kids. Alert…employed good situational awareness.
Without ignoring the loss and injuries usually the media is already calling for banned guns and “white nationalist”. What’s the delay?
FBI False Flag?? Odds are always good for FIB involvement.
Exactly what jurisdiction does the FBI have in a local crime?
The federal police force seems to have been given the green light to insert themselves everywhere. Remember the farcical “attempted kidnapping” of Gretchen Witmer in MICHIGAN? 16 people were involved. 12 of those 16 were FBI assets. School board meetings anywhere in the country are monitored by the federal police.
Let me guess he was on the FBI radar…
If it’s the one some family went to, it’s a maga -sized high school. For some reason, they knocked down high schools and built a few enormous high schools , in the suburbs of Detroit…where the schools were once known to be top in the nation.
“For some reason, they knocked down high schools and built a few enormous high schools , in the suburbs …”
Why?
Because prospective white house-hunters will ask their real-estate agent to show them neighborhoods “with good schools” …
And so
… Leftists have to ruin the good schools
This is Obama’s AFFH policy at work – Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing
also known as
“Nice suburb you got there, don’t worry, we’ll bring inner-city crime, violence, and social dysfunction to YOU”
Top in the Nation in the Richest City in the World.
Has CNN called the shooter a car yet?
Hmmmmmmm , do I need to ask….?
Just an FYI, yesterday was the anniversary of one of the earliest school shootings, Heath High School, in Paducah, KY.
Worst, and earliest, school massacre was in Bath, Michigan, in 1927. But that was done by an adult, who planted bombs at the school. 44 dead.
In Russia in 2004, Chechen terrorists killed 331 kids at Berlin School. “Three Days in September” is a great documentary about it.
I remember well that Chechen incident. I had to correct myself on the Paducah anniversary date. It is today. The shooting was in 1997. In a nearby county (Marshall County) there was a shooting just a few years ago. The shooters in both incidents were white males.
Schools are gun free zones and there are a lot of quiet, seething kids who dont seem to fit in to the high school way of life.
Time bombs when the hormones kick in. And clueless parents who look the other way or call up Doctor for meds.
Need to correct myself. TODAY is that anniversary.
Community Relations Service (CRS)
Uhhhh, THE MATH HERE IS OFF!! 3 dead and 6 injured does not equal 11.
Maybe the 6 were injured trying to get away and are in addition to the 11 shot? Sundance knows his math!
Let me guess that if this kid can be identified in any way as a “conservative”” the headline will be “School Shooter was on his way to Kill Governor Whitmer”.
11 shot. 3 dead, 6 injured. What happened to the other two? Sorry for being insensitive but this seems like a word problem.
Does any reporter know math? Seeing this is north of Detoilet, going to be interesting to see if this is SJS (Sudden Juhad Syndrome).