As our understanding of The Fourth Branch expands, it is important to pause and reflect upon a specific ‘check and balance‘ within the system before finishing with the final two chapters.
The modern system to ‘check’ the executive branch was the creation of the legislative “Gang of Eight,” a legislative oversight mechanism intended to provide a bridge of oversight between the authority of the intelligence community within the executive branch.
The Go8 construct was designed to allow the President authority to carry out intelligence operations and provide the most sensitive notifications to a select group within Congress.
The Go8 oversight is directed to the position, not the person, and consists of: (1) The Speaker of the House; (2) The Minority Leader of the House; (3) The Chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, HPSCI; (4) The Ranking Member (minority) of the HPSCI; (5) The Leader of the Senate; (6) The Minority Leader of the Senate; (7) The Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, SSCI; and finally (8) the Vice-Chair of the SSCI.
Example: When the Chief Executive (the President) initiates an intelligence operation on behalf of the United States, the President triggers a “finding memo.” In essence the instruction to the intel agency or agencies to authorize a covert operation. When that process takes place, the Go8 are the first people notified. Depending on the sensitivity of the operation, sometimes the G08 are notified immediately after the operation is conducted. The notification can be a phone call or an in-person briefing.
Because of the sensitivity of their intelligence information, the Gang of Eight hold security clearances that permit them to receive and review all intelligence operations. The intelligence community are also responsible for briefing the Go8 with the same information they use to brief the President.
~ 2021 Gang of Eight ~
The Go8 design is intended to put intelligence oversight upon both political parties in Congress; it is designed that way by informing the minority leaders of both the House and Senate as well as the ranking minority members of the SSCI and HPSCI. Under the concept, the President cannot conduct an intelligence operation; and the intelligence community cannot carry out intelligence gathering operations without the majority and minority parties knowing about it.
The modern design of this oversight system was done to keep rogue and/or corrupt intelligence operations from happening. However, as we shared in the preview to this entire discussion, the process was usurped during the Obama era. {GO DEEP}
Former FBI Director James Comey openly admitted to Congress on March 20, 2017, that the FBI, FBI Counterintelligence Division, DOJ and DOJ-National Security Division, together with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and the CIA, had been conducting independent investigations of Donald Trump for over a year without informing the Go8. Comey justified the lack of informing Go8 oversight by saying “because of the sensitivity of the matter.”
Stupidly, Congress never pressed James Comey on that issue. The arrogance was astounding, and the acceptance by Congress was infuriating. However, that specific example highlighted just how politically corrupt the system had become. In essence, Team Obama usurped the entire design of congressional oversight…. and Congress just brushed it off.
Keep in mind, Comey did not say the White House was unaware; in fact he said exactly the opposite, he said “the White House was informed through the National Security Council,” (the NSC). The implication, the very direct and specific implication; the unavoidable implication and James Comey admission that everyone just brushed aside; was that President Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, was totally informed of the intelligence operation(s) against Donald Trump. After all, the NSC reports to the National Security Advisor.
Does the January 20, 2017, Susan Rice memo look different now?
Again, no-one saw the immediate issue. What Comey just described on that March day in 2017 was the total usurpation of the entire reason the Gang of Eight exists; to eliminate the potential for political weaponization of the Intelligence Community by the executive branch. The G08 notifications to the majority and minority are specifically designed to make sure what James Comey admitted to doing was never supposed to happen.
Team Obama carried out a political operation using the intelligence community and the checks-and-balances in the system were intentionally usurped. This is an indisputable fact.
Worse still, the entire legislative branch of Congress, which specifically includes the Republicans that now controlled the House and Senate, did nothing. They just ignored what was admitted. The usurpation was willfully ignored….. The mechanism of the G08 was bypassed without a twitch of condemnation or investigation…. because the common enemy was Donald Trump.
This example highlights the collapse of the system. Obama, the executive branch, collapsed the system by usurping the process; in essence the process became the bigger issue and the lack of immediate legislative branch reaction became evidence of open acceptance. The outcomes of the usurpation played out over the next four years, Donald J Trump was kneecapped and lost his presidency because of it. However, the bigger issue of the collapse still exists.
The downstream consequence of the legislative branch accepting the executive branch usurpation meant both intelligence committees were compromised. Additionally, the leadership of both the House and Senate were complicit. Think about this carefully. The legislative branch allowance of the intelligence usurpation meant the legislative branch was now subservient to the Intelligence Branch.
That’s where we are.
Right now.
That’s where we are.
Term-3 Obama is now back in the White House with Joe Biden.
Term-1 and Term-2 Obama usurped the ‘check and balance‘ within the system and weaponized the intelligence apparatus. During Trump’s term that weaponization was covered up by a compliant congress, and not a single member of the oversight called it out. Now, Term-3 Obama steps back-in to continue the cover-up and continue the weaponization.
Hopefully, you can now see the scale of the problem that surrounds us with specific citation for what has taken place. What I just explained to you above is not conspiracy theory, it is admitted fact that anyone can look upon. Yet….
Have you seen this mentioned anywhere?
Have you seen this called out by anyone in Congress?
Have you seen anyone in media (ally or adversary) call this out?
Have you seen any member of the judicial branch stand up and say wait, what is taking place is not okay?
Have you seen a single candidate for elected office point this out?
Have you seen anyone advising a candidate point this out?
This is our current status.
It is not deniable.
It is.
Yet, not a single person, no-one, will say openly what has taken place. It is right there in front of our face. The words, actions and activities of those who participated in this process are not deniable.
♦ Last point. There are only two members of the Gang of Eight who have existed in place from January 2007 (the real beginning of Obama’s term, two years before he took office when the Congress flipped). Only two members of the G08 have been consistently in place from January of 2007 to right now, today. All the others came and went but two members of the Gang of Eight have been part of that failed and collapsed oversight throughout the past 15 years.
…Who are they?
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Not a bad capstone and we haven’t seen the entire monolith perspective yet. But mention Obama and you’ve adumbrated pure evil is afoot.
Why do we believe none in the Go8 knew of the Fourth Branch’s War On Trump.
They say they didn’t know. Comey says he didn’t tell the Go8 “due to the sensitivity…”
All would have lied and have been lying to us for decades.
They knew. Pelosi, McConnell, Harry Reid, Paul Ryan – they all knew, and are complicit, and nothing will shake me from that belief.
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Those two that are no longer in office are still alive.
Do either of those rats want to rectify their bile? The younger is probably believing he is immune from any backlash, since he appears to be quite the psychopath.
The elder is ‘supposedly’ dying; that ‘history’ will brand him what he is — a traitor to this nation — is his to take to his grave. No saving that narrative other than to repent, you snake . . .
John McCain
Add the Capitol police to the list of intelligence agencies…that’s how they are being used right now. Forget back the blue they are traitors to our country.
There’s nothing more Inflationary and Ineffective than a massive “Intelligence Community.”
If we take Inflation as the result of non-productive enterprises (or receivers) which add to the Demand but they don’t add to the Supply of useable goods; things become much more expensive.
Ineffectually – throughout the History of Western Civilization espionage was rightly disparaged (that’s why spies don’t have the rights of citizens and can be sent to places like GITMO, or in war they’re not covered under the Geneva Convention) because it creates an ever compounding exercise in futility. It’s the undeniable reality of social contacts and a limitless objective combined with a strategic mission incorporating highly suspect anything-goes philosophies such as “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” or “using double agents” (how do we know they’re not triple agents?). All of it operating in the shadows. Thus everything is in place for the “Intelligence” culture to inevitably become very corrupt and pervasive.
Also there’s the whole ballooning phenomena of the 10’ fence – 11’ ladder, 11’ fence – 12’ ladder, and so on. The whole thing has always been considered utterly ridiculous. Basically you have your society creating spies and not goods and services.
There’s only one valid reason for modern espionage. That’s to detect First Strike Nuclear Capability (or any other weapon of First Strike Total Destruction). All the rest is a complete farse, but it does make for a really good (and extremely zealous) political constituency. It’s zealous because it can be. Our Rights were trampled in its creation so it leverages that against anything which threatens its preservation.
All this stuff flows down hill as predictably as water into a pond, or should I say swamp.
Cogent.
… Any f**king questions?
Go Sundance, go!
I don’t think it was that anyone didn’t know. Elise Stefanik was the one questioning Comey, and she didn’t follow through with the questions Sundance has suggested. I just don’t think any of the Republicans (not Gang of 8) quite figured this out. It is not that they aren’t smart enough– I believe Stefanik is plenty smart. I just don’t think they believed Comey et al were that corrupt and four steps ahead of everyone else. I believe the top FBI officials get together over lunch or dinner and think of ways to maneuver their corruption. They think of all the legal maneuvers they can use to trick and deceive Congress and the public. And they are good at it.
Great work Sundance. I think this needs to be sent to Jim Jordan, Devin Nunes, Stefanik, and any other trustworthy allies on Capitol Hill. I just don’t think they thought this trough like you, Sundance.
Stefanik, if she thought quickly enough, could have asked:
So, you briefed the NSC who briefed the White House. How many Republicans did you brief? If you were investigating someone, how many Democrats were you investigating? How many Republicans were you targeting? If you were targeting one of Trump’s team, did you incidentally capture Trump’s communication? Did you capture texts, emails, phone calls of Trump?
if the congress criters use intel to gain power, then HAVE THE STATES seize the cable lines and towers under the premise illegal activities are being conducted by them (spying, trading info, etc).
Make the Fed respond. force them into the light. wake up Fence Sitters by SEIZING their property of the State law that allows it!!!!!
The Open Secret becomes visible to all the American Eyes!
They all knew the level of corruption, and as did Judas, they will receive what they have earned!
finding dirt on PDJT would of secured their freedom from ever being held accountable. so they went for it assuming everyone is dirty in some form.
They failed.
PDJT’s lawsuit of the tech company should lead to State’s seizing the companies assets within their states.
“Probable cause exists to believe that the property has been or is intended to be used illegally”
The Race is on.
They must seize enough government power, to protect themselves, from us, before too much is revealed. At the deflection point, the military will not follow their orders.
Right now, critical cases are sent to Obama Judges to include PDJT’s lawsuit.
yep, they are forcing a ‘confrontation’ or ‘pure surrender to the end of the constitution’.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/revolt-jenna-ellis-leaving-republican-party-tells-viewers-ashamed-part-party-ronna-mcdaniel-chairwoman-video-ronnamustgo/
I quit the GOP right after the election. Registered as NPA. No Party Affiliation.
Jenna leaving the R party is such an interesting development.
I have “A f**king question”? Is America going to go down in History “as the greatest country in Human History, that gets taken down by these 2 traitorous slime-balls”? AND takes the Rest of the Free World with it?
Please read this excellent article by Steve Rossiter.
https://canadafreepress.com/article/how-long-do-we-have
2022 is the last chance to prevent this from becoming true!
Thank you for the concise reality provided here, Sundance.
Why did PDT bail out one half of the Putrid Pair in 2020? Inquiring minds want to know. It made no difference whether Turtle was re-elected since the fix was in to lose the Senate anyway.
Indeed TradeBait, I wonder every day why did Trump help McConnell out in his last election. Recently, Trump is harpooning him quite badly. Makes me shake my head in wonderment.
Yes – I have a question.
Who was the DOJ oversight personnel that caught the FBI misuse documented into the FISC Judge Collyer 2017 report? (image below of section)
You found Brian Dugan – can this person be found???
It wasn’t the FBI. It was the NSA compliance officer.
Collyer got that part wrong. Admiral Rogers explained how it all surfaced. The frequency triggered the flags in the NSA system, the compliance officer looked, then notified Rogers…. who told the compliance officer to review all the queries.
unbelievable. Thank you for that.
Where is Admiral Rogers, I wonder.
None of the Go8 surprise me except Nunes. He did such great work, I wonder why?
Maybe it was Kash Patel who was the real hero ??
He was the only one not in on it. When he did his oversight job and figured out what was going on, Ryan and Schiff used a bogus ethics charge to silence him. Telling that Ryan did not appoint an interim chairman to the committee and let Schiff run the show for a year.
Afterwards the Uniparty did what it could to control Nunes. Ryan created the joint investigation so that Gowdy could shadow Nunes etc …
Yes, the Intelligence Agencies have always been corrupt. It is a fact however that Obama Super Turbo Charged the Weaponization of said Intelligence Agencies.
Unlike President Trump – the ultimate DC Outsider – surrounded by fakers, hangers-on, subversives, RINOs, and other assorted nefarious characters, Obama appointed, and was surrounded by, fellow True Believers in the Marxist Cause – the Transformation of the United States.
But the point of this post is not to simply assign blame to Obama for the present state of the Intelligence Branch and move on. The point is made that Others – The Legislative Branch, and specifically the Gang of Eight to be exact, enabled and allowed this weaponization to be swept under the rug.
James Creepy Comey sat before Congress and truthfully testified (in this instance at least) to the fact that the Gang of Eight members and process were completely and utterly disregarded – and Congress said not a word!
The most dangerous thing to the beast, is truth, thank you Sundance.
Now would be a good time for an education on who James Otis was, what a “Writ of Assistance” was, and how it violated and established our 4th Amendment rights.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated and no warrants shall issue, but upon probably cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized.
You can’t search my papers, person, or effects without warrant based upon probable cause.
LBJ had the CIA take out JFK ???
Now that this is out, one thing emerges absolutely clear. This cannot stand. The federal government is illegitimate. It will collapse under this information.
There are only
threetwo Gang of Eight members remaining from the time of the September 11th 2012 Benghazi attack in Libya (Pelosi, McConnelland Feinstein).https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2017/01/02/united-states-national-intelligence-oversight-the-gang-of-eight/
You can almost feel it – Pelosi, McConnell, CIA and Clinton coming together in 2012.
There’s a part of me that hates to read SDs breakdowns.
Its the part of me that believes we still function under the law
, with the supreme law being the Constitution.
It can be demoralizing at times.
But the layers of flavor are mouth watering.
SD, god bless him, cooks the meat down to the bones.
And
Fortunately, I like the taste of SDs cooking,
Take Heart Treepers!
We are as informed and activated as any other faction.
God Bless SD, our true hearted, and our Nation.
One of those members at the time was Devan Nunes. That fact goes against everything I know. I must have something wrong . What is it ?
Nunes is clean. The other 7 received information individually that wasn’t given to Nunes. As I recall Brennan pointed out the he met the Go8 individually, not as a group.
Silos of information.
Is it wrong of me to imagine all of them in handcuffs for their treasonous acts? As a Christian, I pray that the Lord’s Will is working here on earth to bring about the downfall of these people and that it happens soon. The sinner part of me wants vengeance and justice to happen today on these traitors. Surely, there must be good people left in our federal government and if not then we are going to see some very bleak and bad times in our lifetimes. I fear for my grandchildren’s future.
If Congresscritters are afraid of those people, who’s in charge here?