If we start with this interview between Tucker Carlson and Glenn Greenwald, we can see they get a lot of the foundation correct, but they misaligned the cornerstone.
When Barack Obama was installed in January 2009, the Democrats held a 60 seat majority in the U.S. Senate. As the people behind the Obama installation began executing their longer-term plan {SEE DAY ONE}, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence was a tool to create the Intelligence Branch; it was not an unintentional series of events.
When Obama was installed, Dianne Feinstein was the Chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), and Democrat operative Dan Jones was her lead staffer. Feinstein was completely controlled by those around her including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. The CIA was in the process of turning over personnel following the Bush era, and as a result of a massive multi-year narrative of diminished credibility (Iraq WMD), a deep purge was underway. Obama/Holder were in the process of shifting intelligence alignment and the intensely political Democrat Leader Harry Reid was a key participant.
WATCH the Interview:
Carlson notes his conversation with the congressional intelligence committee member was two years ago. The discussion was with Trey Gowdy, and the conversation surrounded Gowdy’s decision to leave congress and the opportunity presented by Fox News to become a contracted contributor.
TC and GG say that congress is the solution to eliminating the fourth and superseding branch of government, The Intelligence Branch. This is an exercise in futility because the legislative branch, specifically the SSCI, facilitated the creation of the Intelligence Branch. The SSCI cannot put the genie they created back in the bottle without admitting they are corrupt; and the background story of their corruption is way too intense to be exposed now.
Every member of the SSCI is compromised in some controlling manner. Those Senators who disliked the control over them; specifically disliked because the risk of sunlight was tenuous and, well, possible; have either left completely or stepped down from the committee. None of the SSCI members past or present would ever contemplate saying openly what their tenure involved.
[Note: You might remember when Vice-chairman Mark Warner’s text messages surfaced there was a controlled Republican SSCI member who came to his defense in February of 2018. It was not accidental that exact senator later became the chair of the SSCI himself. That republican senator is Marco Rubio, now vice-chair since the Senate re-flipped back to the optics of Democrat control in 2021.]
All of President Obama’s 2009 intelligence appointments required confirmation from the Senate. The nominees had to first pass through the Democrat controlled SSCI, and then to a full senate vote where Democrats held a 60 vote majority. Essentially, Obama got everyone he wanted in place easily. Rahm Emmanuel was Obama’s chief of staff and Valerie Jarrett was senior advisor.
Tim Geithner was Treasury Secretary in 2010 when the joint DOJ/FBI and IRS operation to target the Tea Party took place after the mid-term “shellacking” caused by Obamacare backlash. Mitch McConnell was minority leader in the Senate but supported the targeting of the Tea Party as his senate colleagues were getting primaried by an angry and effective grassroots campaign. McConnell’s friend Senator Bob Bennett getting beaten in Utah was the final straw.
Dirty Harry and Mitch McConell saw the TEA Party through the same prism. The TEA Party took Kennedy’s seat in Massachusetts (Scott Brown); Sharon Angle was about to take out Harry Reid in Nevada; Arlen Spector was taken down in Pennsylvania; Senator Robert Byrd died; Senator Lisa Murkowski lost her primary to Joe Miller in Alaska; McConnell’s nominee Mike Castle lost to Christine O’Donnell in Delaware; Rand Paul won in Kentucky. This is the background. The peasants were revolting…. and visibly angry Mitch McConnell desperately made a deal with the devil to protect himself.
In many ways the TEA Party movement was/is very similar to the MAGA movement. The difference in 2010 was the absence of a head of the movement, in 2015 Donald Trump became that head figure who benefited from the TEA Party energy. Trump came into office in 2017 with the same congressional opposition as the successful TEA Party candidates in 2011.
Republicans took control of the Senate following the 2014 mid-terms. Republicans took control of the SSCI in January 2015. Senator Richard Burr became chairman of the SSCI and Dianne Feinstein shifted to Vice-Chair. Dirty Harry Reid left the Senate and Mitch McConnell took power again.
Republicans were in control of the SSCI in 2015 when the intelligence branch operation against candidate Donald Trump was underway. [Feinstein’s staffer, Dan Jones, left the SSCI so he could act as a liaison and political operative between private-sector efforts (Fusion GPS, Chris Steele) and the SSCI.] The SSCI was a participant in that Fusion-GPS/Chris Steele operation, and as a direct consequence Republicans were inherently tied to the problem with President Trump taking office in January of 2017. Indiana Republican Senator Dan Coats was a member of the SSCI.
Bottom line…. the GOP was just as much at risk as their Democrat counterparts.
When Trump unexpectedly won the 2016 election, the SSCI was shocked more than most. They knew countermeasures would need to be deployed to protect themselves from any exposure of their intelligence conduct. Dianne Feinstein stepped down, and Senator Mark Warner was elevated to Vice-Chairman.
Indiana’s own Mike Pence, now Vice-President, recommended fellow Hosier, SSCI Senator Dan Coats, to become President Trump’s Director of National Intelligence (ODNI). [Apply hindsight here]
♦To give an idea of the Intelligence Branch power dynamic, remind yourself how House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), Chairman Devin Nunes, tried to get access to the DOJ/FBI records of the FISA application used against the Trump campaign via Carter Page. Remember Nunes only saw a portion of the FISA trail from his review of a Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) previously given to President Obama. Nunes had to review the PDB at the White House SCIF due to compartmented intelligence.
Remember the massive stonewalling and blocking of the DOJ/FBI toward Nunes? Remember the back and forth battle over declassification surrounding the Nunes memo? Remember, after Nunes went directly to House Speaker Paul Ryan for help (didn’t get any), the DOJ only permitted two members from each party within the HPSCI to review the documents, and only at the DOJ offices of main justice?
Contrast that amount of HPSCI railroading and blocking by intelligence operatives in the DOJ, DOJ-NSD and FBI, with the simple request by SSCI Vice Chairman Mark Warner asking to see the FISA application and immediately a copy being delivered to him on March 17th 2017.
Can you see which intelligence committee is aligned with the deepest part of the deep state?
Oh, how quickly we forget:
The contrast of ideological alignment between the HPSCI, SSCI and Intelligence Branch is crystal clear when viewed through the prism of cooperation. You can see which legislative committee holds the power and support of the Intelligence Branch. The SSCI facilitates the corrupt existence of the IC Branch, so the IC Branch only cooperates with the SSCI. It really is that simple.
♦ The Intelligence Branch carefully selects its own members by controlling how security clearances are investigated and allowed (FBI). The Intelligence Branch also uses compartmentalization of intelligence as a way to keep each agency, and each downstream branch of government (executive, legislative and judicial), at arms length as a method to stop anyone from seeing the larger picture of their activity. I call this the “silo effect“, and it is done by design. I have looked the at stunned faces when I present silo product from one agency to the silo customers of another.
Through the advise and consent rules, the Intelligence Branch uses the SSCI to keep out people they consider dangerous to their ongoing operations. Any appointee to the intelligence community must first pass through the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, before they get a full Senate vote. If the SSCI rejects the candidate, they simply refuse to take up the nomination. The president is then blocked from that appointment. This is what happened with President Trump over-and-over again.
♦ Additionally, the Intelligence Branch protects itself, and its facilitating allies through the formal classification process. The Intelligence Branch gets to decide unilaterally what information will be released and what information will be kept secret. There is no entity outside the Intelligence Branch, and yes that includes the President of the United States, who can supersede the classification authority of the Intelligence Branch. {Go Deep} and {Go Deep} This is something 99.9% of the people on our side get totally and frustratingly wrong.
No-one can declassify, or make public, anything the Intelligence Branch will not agree to. Doubt this?… ask Ric Grenell, John Ratcliffe, or even President Trump himself.
♦ The classification process is determined inside the Intelligence Branch, all by themselves. They get to choose what rank of classification exists on any work-product they create; and they get to decide what the classification status is of any work-product that is created by anyone else. The Intelligence Branch has full control over what is considered classified information and what is not. The Intelligence Branch defines what is a “national security interest” and what is not. A great technique for hiding fingerprints of corrupt and illegal activity.
[For familiar reference see the redactions to Lisa Page and Peter Strzok text messages. The Intelligence Branch does all redactions.]
♦ Similarly the declassification process is a request by an agency, even a traditionally superior agency like the President of the United States, to the Intelligence Branch asking for them to release the information. The Intelligence Branch again holds full unilateral control. If the head of the CIA refuses to comply with the declassification instruction of the President, what can the president do except fire him/her? {Again, GO DEEP} How does the President replace the non-compliant cabinet member?… They have to go through the SSCI confirmation… See the problem?
Yes there are ways to break up the Intelligence Branch, but they do not start with any congressional effort. As you can see above, the process is the flaw – not the solution. TC and GG have their emphasis on the wrong syllable. Their cornerstone is false.
For their own self-preservation; the Intelligence Branch has been interfering in our elections for years. The cornerstone to tear this apart begins with STATE LEVEL election reform that blocks the legislative branch from coordinating with the intelligence branch.
Our elections have been usurped by the Intelligence Branch. Start with honest elections and we will see just how much Democrat AND Republican corruption is dependent on manipulated election results. Start at the state level. Start there…. everything else is downstream.
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Great work Sundance. Just sent $100.00 to support. Encourage everyone else to do likewise.
Same bere
Done as well. This is my go to website for honest reporting and information.
I just donated too. Sundance does awesome work. He is a national treasure IMO.
Ditto
I was long overdue for a repeat show of support. Great work Sundance and thanks TexSwede.
“yes there are ways to break up the Intelligence Branch”
F15’s and nukes.
“I say we dust off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”
Certainly seems like it would be an appropriate course of action to rout out such an infestation.
Just watched that movie night before last. ?
Game over man!
While your at it, hit Davos, during its annual confab,…
After all, “While your at it, might as well do it RIGHT!”
Agree Federalism, even radical or extreme Federalism, is the only viable coarse, moving forward.
PDJT’s 1st term made it crystal clear, we can NOT work through the Federal government, to restrain the Federal government.
Election reform, and then electing STRONG, MAGA Governors, SoS’s, State attorneys and Legislatures, and removing ALL RINO’S.
Bearing in mind the marxists have also ascended to leadership positions in AMA, ABA, and similar “civic institutions”, this is going to be a generational struggle, taking many years,….in all likelihood, none reading this will live long enough to see Victory.
“[N]one reading this will live long enough to see Victory.”
The Lord instructed his disciples, “Occupy until I come.” So take ground and hold it.
The early church was relentlessly persecuted but triumphed over the Caesars who are long gone. Persistence will carry the day.
Plenty of targets at Sun Valley with all the elitists converging to plot how to take away more of our rights and our wealth and property.
Are you talking about a singular agency or Washington DC in general. The Woke crowd would be pleased since all the “white men” monuments would be blown up with the crap!
Bring back water boarding and we will get to the bottom of this. Oh wait didn’t our elected representatives make water boarding illegal. Wonder why…
Will Lego be putting out the F-15 / nuke kits soon?
F15s and nukes, a bit radical.
More realistic, terminate the department, fire them all, and demolish their buildings.
Put intelligence under U.S. Marshals.
They would just take their operation underground.
Always wonder why President Trump doesn’t talk more about this! They have structured “our” government so there is no accountability to the ruling class. Even the Capitol Police are not required to FOIA requests since they report to Congress. No oversight whatsoever!!
I wonder as well! Hopefully he has a good reason and will be exposed soon!
Ornus,
Perhaps it is EXACTLY BECAUSE as Sundance says, and “EVEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES” is not above the blood-bags in the “ic”? Imagine the message that would send to the country?!!!
I suspect that is why he “farmed it out” to SoS Pompeo.. To spare us the BIG UGLY (for now)?
Best,
skipper
Sundance, thank you for this superbly researched, finely contextualized, deeply critical account of America’s transitioning into a post liberal society. When one reads the Federalist papers the general sense of losing such a great human enterprise — a free nation — to the oppressions of those obsessed with powering over, and controlling others is self-evident. It’s fascinating (in a sad way) to see the method by which it has been accomplished: a branch beyond the three branches.
Small quibble — the TEA party was an acronym Taxed / Enough / Already. It should always be capitalized. The word-forgers hated the original use of the capital letters; we should not give in to their continued attempts to diminish, and distort meanings.
just like the PATRIOTS Act that helped initiate a majority of this current corruption…it is an acronym name so all the initials should be capitals…you could write it P.A.T.R.I.O.T.S. Act instead if they really get offended at it appearing without the periods…this monstrosity created the ONI, DHS and allowed for the suspension of constitutional rights for citizens by the mere accusation of the ill-defined “terrorist” charge
Impossible,
Thank you for the “quibble”. As an original local organizer for the Taxed Enough Already “party”, I thank you for correcting that! We remember when john roberts deemed obama(don’t)care, a TAX!!!
Whatta bunch of garbage!!
Best,
skipper
Circling back to thank you Skipper; I recall a former student of mine, who was then interning at a certain NY newspaper of record telling me that, she was, “informed to downplay the acronym.” That’s why I brought it up; every word is weaponized. The newest one is “hesitancy,” as in ‘vaccine hesitancy.’
Am I the only one who finds it troubling that unless we only engage in face to face communications while we dismantle the swamp, the swamp is already going to know what we’re up to because they have the key to read or listen to our non-in person communication? And can we trust those who we speak with in our face to face communications? Seems like the swamp has fixed the deck and the dealer.
So what are we supposed to do?
I leave that to the ones in our audience who have had the training and expertise to advise–like Sundance.
the thing about stage 3 revolutions is they cannot succeed and be secretive at the same time.
one has to show the power…no brownie points for bragging about powers you aren’t willing to actually use.
to transfer power, everything has to be put out in the open.
remember this war will never be legitimate or successful UNLESS IT IS CRYSTAL CLEAR the intentions are morally honorable and that the actions are not seditious, but rather the legitimate action to recover power that has been usurped by corrupt unelected of a failed central government.
we bring this fight using the most powerful vehicle
SUNSHINE.
we cannot afford to hide our actions.
this makes the contest easy to distinguish for all citizens to consider properly.
what we do not want to do is use dark art tactics like BLM and antifa. those orgs run in the shadows because their agenda at it’s core is unauthentic, criminal in nature, and uses criminal actions and political distortions to influence and steal power.
our purpose must establish moral and legal superiority in full sunshine.
this also accomplishes a means that more WILL join in the majority that dissent against a corrupt central government.
stage 3 revolutions that have failed, often do so simply because the actions are muted, concealed, hidden, and thus easily distorted by the adversary.
we cannot afford that strategic mistake.
taking notes from some of the most successful and pivotal combat engagements, it’s important to acknowledge in nearly all of them…the enemy was given direct no nonsense threats…” on this date this is what is going to happen”…and then it happens. this is how you move your enemy to respect your power…no veiled threats… promises… guarantees.
in doing so, you also win the support of a nation who may question the intentions.
we will need to establish clear, fully disclosed open declarations of war.. this is on keeping with moral control of power and consistent with the awesome tradition and heritage that formed our sovereign power.
here is my grievance…x
you have failed to address and acknowledge it.
your actions have caused me harm and represent a fundamental danger to.my sovereign rights under the constitution and the natural rights defined by that document.
my intentions to resolve this conflict are x y and z.
operations commence on x
prepare to defend yourself.
that’s how you do it..
that’s how legitimate state 3 revolutions evolve to transfer power in a morally legally consistent manner.
guerilla tactics will only have short term limited successes.
skirmishes, undefined, chaotic are certain paths to self destructive ends.
see, we are not attempting to destroy central government…the goal is to reassert that consent to power remains in the will and the power of citizens..and not.the other way around.
be unafraid
Starve the beast. Stop paying taxes – especially your local school taxes and union dues!
That won’t work. They just print more out of thin air.
That is a fresh and lucid take, sir.
Worthy of being slept on for consideration.
“The Intelligence Branch also uses compartmentalization of intelligence as a way to keep each agency and each downstream branch of government (executive, legislative and judicial) as a method to stop anyone from seeing the larger picture of their activity.”
The fact that the so-called legitimate three branches of government are “downstream” of the corrupt IB/4th branch tells us all we need to know about how it functions.
SD, Amazing, cogent work as always, thank you!
Silos.
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Where are all those ‘hackers’ that the IC ostensibly cannot stop from hacking . . .?
I bet McAfee knew something about that.
sort of wonder the same thing. People like Astrange (sorry if I misspelled it) who has a moral duty to do something. His only problem was he didn’t stop from publishing stuff that got people killed. Guess the three letter agencies didn’t teach him about the power of redaction. Anyway if we had hackers that cared enough about America to actually do something that would be nice. Guess hackers only want to get rich though.
Not necessarily Jayne.
Keep The Faith.
point of FACT.
it was a writer at the GUARDIAN who intentionally ran the uncurated raw content …massage sent private encryption keys to several internationally recognized papers to publish the data with instructions MADE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR that all efforts be made to work on curating and redacting some information.
the guardian refused to do so. the writer then went on to publish a sensational book that falsely claimed.the information was curated before it was received. this WAS A LIE to both protect the paper, the writer, AND to misplace accountability to Assange/WL.
notice that NYT and wapost went to extremes to curate and coordinate with the IC before they ran the story.
the guardian did not.
if you want more information about this, consult with Glenn greenwald…it’s one of the main reasons he quit working with the guardian.
WikiLeaks published a statement blaming the documents’ release on the Guardian’s book WikiLeaks: Inside Julian Assange’s War on Secrecy, by investigations editor David Leigh and Luke Harding, published in February 2011.
no other newspaper published the raw uncurated data WikiLeaks provided to them…except for the guardian…then proceeded to allow.the writer to publish a book that contained the cipher key so anyone could read the entire secret data, THAT DID out lives in danger.
this was NEVER a case where Assange published raw dangerous material.
in EVERY situation WL was extremely careful in communicating clear instructions on how to protect against undesirable effects that such raw releases would produce.
if you are wondering why Assange remains in suspended animation in prison in the UK awaiting a trial hearing to determine if and when extradition to the us to face secret charges…just remember that one of those writers “Leigh” is a known m16 asset!!!
so there is a reason why Assange is likely never to be released from UK prison. it will be some contest between two nation states coordinating to manage control until he is dead in prison.
in a trial, discovery will show what both of these two countries cannot allow: the truth and the responsibility for crimes 9f war and also covering it up and then blaming Assange for simply publishing.the truth..and of course framing him with rape that never happened…and arresting him and sentencing him for a failure to appear ..when.the truth is that he was and is a political prisoner…who should have been protected…but was considered too dangerous to the two major super powers.
the press doesn’t represent Assange, because msm realized quickly it pays more with less risk to paper veneer the truth supporting corrupt states than actually the work of an independent press worthy of constitutional free press protections.
Assange may be the last great journalist martyr of our time…likely never a repeat.
so it goes with great truth tellors.
the big truths are very dangerous.
Perhaps in the US using Russian IP’s or VPNs…
If the Intelligence Branch is not specifically mentioned in the Constitution and is not established by the states, wouldn’t process of elimination make it UNCONSTITUTIONAL? What say you CJ Roberts? How about an honest answer??
Constitution? Isn’t that what liberals use to wipe on?
“ The fact that the so-called legitimate three branches of government are “downstream” of the corrupt IB/4th branch tells us all we need to know about how it functions.”
It is said that politics is downstream from culture. If this aphorism is true, it strongly indicates the depth of corruption in the intelligence apparatus reaches to Hell’s Gate.
Oversight doesn’t work
Defunding won’t work
What WILL work?
Free and fair elections. With rigged voting, they can keep the machine going.
After that miracle, you’ll need our successfully propagandized, inattentive, apathetic, hedonistic idiocracy to suddenly and miraculously become sentient.
The 2nd. Amendment !
How many REALLY ready and able to perform? Need at least 3% with good support from the civilians that will survive. That “good support” and appreciation part that is so important has become very questionable lately and really diminishes for those in and thru college. Fight another war, especially domestic, to see the Communists take it then? I’m not interested in that! America cannot survive in ANY form with the quantity of brainless haters in the ranks. They must GO!
with 400M weapons, I do not see a major issue marshalling 9-10M or more active combatants…Revolutionary War was won with 33% idealogical support, 10% economic support and an estimated 2-3% force in the field…with 100m minimum MAGA, the ideological support is already there…I think there are at least 35M prepared to financially support a righting of our Constitutional Republic
Pb
lead poisoning may just work!
I reckon that ultimately, a drastic overarching change to current human nature is required, Yes?
Courage in Congress members, a quality that currently is severely lacking in the 100% of the Senate and in 95% of the House.
I would suggest the FBI be broken up and become strictly a domestic force.
Many will disagree and state the FBI needs international exposure for terrorist activity.
But, we just witnessed the FBI-International connection goes both ways.
They are too big, too powerful and need to be downsized tomorrow.
Seems most of the terrorist activity is within the group designated to identify and destroy terrorist activity.
The FBI is supposed to handle domestic counterespionage and counterterrorism and the CIA is supposed to be prohibited from doing anything domestically, but it appears that these barriers to one or the other of the aforementioned agencies is one merely of convenience and best honored by its breach–as demonstrated by the four years of President Trump’s administration.
Scary stuff indeed.
the CIA used to take local cops under their wing for extra training, and to get their loyalty , and so by passing the rule of no domestic action/surveillance.
With the creation of the FBI/NSD, after 9/11, through a MOU, they made the deal with the devil.
The FBI/NSD is actually a CIA station, INSIDE the U.S., something the CIA has long coveted. In exchange, the FBI got (contractor) access to the NSA database, something IT was salivating over.
And, it was MUELLER, yes THAT Mueller, during his tenure as FBI director starting in Bush admin, that instituted the “7 and out” policy that was used to purge and remake the FBI, much as Obummer remade the officer corps in the military.
By the by, it was also in the Bush admin, that Weinstein, yes THAT Weinstien who was Muellers #2 or handler during Mueller investigation, was brought in to the FBI 7th floor.
Point is, a LOT of the groundwork was established during the BUSH administration, for what was later accomplished in the Obama admin.
Everyone focuses on Obummer, but Bush set it up.
Andrew Weissman
One long 16 year presidency.
Yep; continued the taller woody’s work.
Shrub passed pocket candy to O’s “Michael”
and then they all got a little envelope. ?
“The FBI/NSD is actually a CIA station, INSIDE the U.S., something the CIA has long coveted.”
Might want to read up a bit:
https://www.newsweek.com/2013/11/15/biggest-little-cia-shop-youve-never-heard-243964.html
and take away their black helicopters
“Through the advise and consent rules the Intelligence Branch uses the SSCI to keep out people they consider dangerous to their ongoing operations.”
-SNIP-
“If the SSCI rejects the candidate, they simply refuse to take up the nomination. The president is then blocked from that appointment. This is what happened with President Trump over-and-over again.”
I have been guilty in the past of criticizing President Trump’s choice of advisers. I see now that he was not going to get approval for anyone that would be an asset to him in draining the Swamp.
But now this causes me to wonder why Obama was so fearful of General Flynn. There was small prospect of his being confirmed by the Senate.
This puts some perspective on Congress not allowing so much as a single recess appointment from President Trump.
There WERE those of us saying, ALL ALONG that McConnell was manipulating Advise and Consent, to force PDJT to take traitors.
Most don’t really pay much attention to POLICY and PROCESS, and the Buerocrats take advantage of such ignorance, as its thru P&P that much of their power grabbing takes place.
I am sure there are plenty of us here who knew much of that manipulation from the beginning.
Ascertaining more specific motives other than undermining President Trump and his policies however, has taken more time and research.
McCONnell also allegedly told President Trump shortly before he was inaugurated, that he didn’t want to hear him talking about, or saying anything, with regard to draining the swamp. I only say allegedly because I can’t site the actual source, but I read that McCONnell actually said this to President Trump. I just can’t remember exactly where.
Steve Bannon brought it up in a 60 Minutes interview:
STEVE BANNON: Oh, Mitch McConnell when we first met him, I mean, he was– he was– he– he said, I think in one of the first meetings in Trump Tower with the president, as we’re wrapping up, he basically says, “I don’t wanna hear any more of this ‘drain the swamp’ talk.” He– c– flat out. He goes, “A guy up on Capitol Hill can’t buy a Coke unless it’s gotta be reported.” He says, “I can’t– I can’t hire any smart people,” because everybody’s all over him for reporting requirements and the pay, et cetera, and the scrutiny. You know, “You gotta back off that.” The “Drain the Swamp” thing was– is Mitch McConnell was day one did not wanna– did not wanna go there. Wanted us to back off.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bannon-mcconnell-doesnt-want-to-hear-anymore-drain-the-swamp-talk/
Great catch dd_sc!
Flynn could have been the ultimate whistleblower on Team Obama/Swamp whether he was confirmed to a cabinet position or not.
He needed to be silenced; no way the Swamp lets him fill a special advisor role like Kushner did.
Christian- once the Senate already confirmed a person for one job – hard to reject for a second job. Also, Flynn was in a position for PDJT – Advisor – which does not require senate confirmation-
Keep in mind that Flynn got fired because he supposedly lied to VP Pence; later recanted. But you can’t appoint a fired, thus disgraced, lying candidate. Pence’s role revealed first time.
Lt Gen Michael Flynn knows where the Ozero’s bodies are buried…he had inside knowledge of the unconstitutional acts and the actors involved during the usurper’s reign
Why did Flynn talk to Pientka and Strozk in his office without a legal team present? He was a 30 year veteran of Army Intelligence and didn’t know anything about those two? He gave the two fibbies an invitation to really get creative with their 302s.
Flynn dod not lie.
It would have nipped everything in the bud if Flynn had witnesses that could testify as to what was discussed in that meeting. Do you know what a 302 is? It’s a paper form that FBI agents use to record their investigations. They can put in whatever fortifies their case whether it’s true or not. There was much consternation regarding which version of the 302 was being used to prosecute Flynn.
Yes, Flynn did not lie, but PDJT got a major wake up call early on that it was a major mistake to bring Pence in as VP. Flynn knew a lot of [the very bad stuff] that was going on in DC and the DS feared him. Flynn should have been protected better. Everybody knows the insanity of the left when Judge Emmet Sullivan continued to go after Flynn after the DOJ dropped the charges. Maybe we’re still watching a movie.
Lt Gen Flynn was head of the DIA. Flynn wasn’t “under control” and DIA was a threat to the IC because of that.
Flynn didn’t and wouldn’t “play ball” with NSA and CIA because he considered DIA to be independent and subservient to the Constitution and Law. That’s why Flynn warned Trump about the IC collecting data on him. He had a conscience and sense of Duty and Honor. He took the fall for Pence. He ought have let Pence get eaten alive by the Media.
Flynn was a threat to the entire IC and SSCI. They went after him like white on rice. He had to be silenced.
Flynn knows exactly where “all of the bodies are buried”. Obama feared Flynn because Flynn was a Real Officer and Gentleman. Corrupt men fear incorruptible men.
Flynn was appointed National Security Advisor because it was the one very important position that did not require Senate confirmation. What Trump didn’t understand was that Pence would commit his first act of perfidy by lying about what Flynn told him about his call with Kislyak. I’m certain there were more things Pence did to undermine the president, but nothing out in public like he did with Flynn, until January 6th.
That is why Trump made Flynn his National Security Advisor. That position doesn’t require senate approval. I would guess Trump would have preferred to make him the DNI but McConnell said no.
“. . . what can the president do except fire him/her?” Codevilla faults POTUS Trump for not doing that.
That’s why the Swamp painted Sessions into a corner to recuse himself and then set up the Special Council. It was made clear that firing anybody or unilateral declassification by Trump would be considered obstruction of justice.
The charge of obstruction provides political cover for the Senate RINOs to convict during impeachment trial.
Can’t prove it, but I have no doubt McConnell, after recommending Sessions, knew Franken was going to ask those questions during the hearing.
I have usually respected Angelo Codevilla’s insights and perspectives but here he is flat out myopic.
He offers no viable alternative strategy for how the President can possibly run his Administration without 3/4 of his Cabinet positions (as well as other equally as important positions). The positions would all be unstaffed because POTUS fires them all but then cannot replace any of them with a true patriot due to the Deep State-controlled Senate’s obstruction
For Treepers who are curious about the article of which Rev. David R. Graham has commented, here is a link that gets you closer:
https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2021/01/codevillas-deeply-dishonest-anti-trump.html
What Is Trump To Us? › American Greatness (amgreatness.com)
I read this article today and was thinking the same. I have always liked the writings of Codevilla but hadn’t read the link you provided. So I was surprised at how he blamed President Trump for not being able to overcome the obstacles the IC ,with the aid of the SSCI, put in his path. I didn’t realize he was so anti- Trump.
Thanks for the link, coastermom. Codevilla’s new article in American Greatness appears to contain a lot of his statements and seemingly childish, angry blaming of Trump as he wrote in his January 19 article that was linked near the top of the blog page that my link takes you to.
Codevilla is really blaming President Trump for everything the President did not do or accomplish, and for what he did do that resulted in more problems.
This has caused me to rethink my opinion of Codevilla. He has apparently not read any of Sundance’s well researched articles about the 4th Branch or how the President was literally prohibited from appointing people from outside the Swamp into key positions of leadership in the Executive branch. Codevilla seems to not understand the level of corruption within all three branches and how that completely hamstrung the President. Codevilla also appears to believe the President has far more blanket or unilateral authority than in actuality.
So while Angelo Codevilla seems to understand the cultural, political, and economic issues very well, and has very accurately described the evolution of the Ruling Elite to the tyrants they’ve become today, he lacks understanding of the bureaucracy that has grown long tentacles around and through the White House and those who would serve the President.
You can do much better Angelo. More research is needed.
A. C. misses the spiritual aspects.
It is covered in the article “See that ye walk circumspectly in the Lord” by Archbishop Averky (+ 1976).
Astute observation Sepp. I agree with you. He dances all around it but never addresses that directly.
And that covers a lot.
I agree wholeheartedly! Codevilla uses hindsight to gauge PT’s actions while intentionally ignoring the many ramifications of what would have happened at the time of PT’s decisions and actions.
His premise that if PT had just followed through on what he, PT, talked about/promised and then fired everyone then everything would have worked out just fine is extremely disingenuous to say the least.
He entirely skips over the Mueller investigation ramifications, the inability of getting any positions filled without swamp approval, and PT being under the gun constantly for impeachment threats for almost any action that PT wanted to take.
There are some points that Codevilla makes that are worth pondering and questioning, but overall it is a thinly veiled ‘hit piece’ using false premises and hindsight declarations that have no way of now being proved factual or true because we will never know what would have happened if PT had taken different actions.
Excellent summery Paprika. I hope a lot of Treepers read our thread here.
Too many otherwise good journalists are opining on the current situation and developments that led to it without understanding the depth, history, and complexities of the corruption in the government.
And those half-baked or three-quarters baked analyses are misleading a LOT of people from the bullseye. I’ve no doubt that’s the objective of some of those: we’d be naive to think the Deep State isn’t trying to pollute the information pool.
But there’s a lot of good information and analysis out there if one takes all of it and overlays Sundance’s 4th Branch conclusions across it all.
Once again our elected representatives have grossly shirked their duties and because of their inaction unelected ideologues in the IC bureaucracy are running ripshod over the system and act with impunity. The Constitutional Republic is in danger when the government is the enemy of the people. We are quickly forming into a banana republic.
Extremely disturbing read. It’s tough to digest all this without lashing out.
What is the Intelligence Branch number one purpose other than screw the American people?
and to protect the ruling class.
Enrich themselves.
If people keep their heads down and follow along, they are left alone.
You ROCK Sundance !
Of course they do, we make soft targets. They’re apprehensive to spy on other countries, other countries are full of the same assets. Also they need to be careful about the network, they’re all colleagues (like the international banking network).
That’s part of the whole futility of Spy v. Spy (10’ fence – 11’ ladder, 11’ fence – 12’ ladder and so on). That’s why espionage was always looked down on until the Nuclear Age. There was only one valid reason for modern espionage. That was to detect First Strike Nuclear Capability.
Also, it’s impossible to have a large “Intelligence Community,” to many eyeballs and mouths. It’s more of a Public Relations Organization for the government. That explains them leaking like a sieve. The whole thing’s ridiculous. Think how it adds to inflation. All those tens of thousands of salaries adding zero to negative economic productivity.
The NSA for instance was a pure 911 farse; since by far the most effective counter-terrorism measure that could have been implemented was to tighten immigration and travel visas, and not rely on foreign labor; that would be something concrete. Until you’ve done something concrete like that at the stratospheric level all the rest is nothing but a joke.
Are the dimensions for induction into the intelligence community hatred of America? Hatred of any truth but your own? Hatred of the concept of sacred duty? Hatred of the rule of law? Hatred of the Constitution?
Where do they find the human debris to staff positions?
Where Michael Avenatti went to law school.
Didn’t tucker carlson credit T.C.T.H. more than once before? I thought he had people doing research here? Now he’s surprised at the extent of the government’s corruption?
even though these pages have been full of examples with citations of the corruption for years!
Tucker either pretends not to see the strings. Or he pretends not to see the strings.
Tucker either pretends not to see the strings. Or he pretends not to see the strings.
Are those my two choices? 🙂
There’s a third choice… the guy pretends not to see the strings.
Or the guy who signs his checks tells him to not see the strings.
Tucker chose for you.?
The gubmint has always working against us in my 68 yrs…..we just know how evil and depraved they all are now. I’m not giving up on MAGA but the job will take longer than I have left on this earth….and I’m all in for restoring our Constitutional life in the USA?????
Preparing the next generation down to continue the Great Battle will be very very important Dmaya and will matter a lot as to who wins this War.
Easy to compromise anyone anytime anywhere…..”Lead or gold?”
I would bet a policy statement issued for America First that the intelligence community has degenerated into the paramount threat to liberty in the US and requiring immediate abolishing would generate a strong majority approval.
Of course, the RINOs would be horrified and would fight tooth and nail against it. This would be a good filter test for any candidate. Support this policy or go to hell. And firm answers are required with silence accepted as rejection.
This gets around the seniority/structural roadblock caused by the compromised/complicit history of virtually all of the top GOP leadership.
New B-21 may be the last resort for swamp drainage?
WOW!
Is it made from LEGOS?
I’d consider that a good start.
This essay is too good to be marred by these typos:
“ ♦ Additionally, the Intelligence Branch protects itself, and it’s facilitating allies through the formal classification process.”
➡️ “… protects itself and its facilitating allies…”
Oh! Thank you so much! And y’all have a good day now, y’hear?
Is “CC” supposed to be Tucker Carlson (and “GG” is Glen Greenwald”?
“TC”, and yes.
Thanks.
I just sent this article to the White House (under anonymous name of course). Told them we will not stand for rigged elections so they can stay in power with no oversight!
fanbeav: You expect that will make an impression on those Fascists?
Next they will come down ‘fast and furious’ on CTH and Sundance as right-wing radical extremists with conspiracy-theorists as followers.
They know we know they stole the election and they don’t care!
there is no such thing as anonymity on or near any digital device!!
Excellent article to round out my Masters degree in the Deep State. Also just donated to keep support this high quality research and writing.
Professor Sundance has been providing fact-filled lectures on 21st century U.S. Political Science here at CTH University since 2011.
I’ve been attending for 4 years but still haven’t graduated….. ?
Ah…but you are in the upper 2% of the class! 😀
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Yes. Been saying this for years now. The States need to do the heavy lifting. The issue is the Feds bride/control the states through money flow. Large cities even in many red states take the dope and want the stream to continue. Feds will try the stranglehold of withholding money if they think they can brink them to their knees. But the States can and must do it anyway. Tyranny be damned to hell.
Actually, withholding funds in order to compel States to comply, is largely an empty threat.
There was TALK of using the withholding of Federal funds, when States began to “legalise” MJ.
TALK, but they never actually DID it.
And PDJT Admin similarly THREATENED to withhold Federal funds, for Sanctuary cities/States, but also didn’t actually DO it.
Reason is, unless it is specifically written in the legislation, the States WILL contest it in Court, and WILL win, every time.
The 10th amendment, and the fact that the citisens of the State are PAYING Federal taxes, will undermine any case the Feds could make for withholding funds.
The Courts would see it for what it is; the Feds using coercion, as an end run around the 10th amendment.
And, since $ is involved, States have strong motivation to bring such suits, and even (IIRC) fast track to SCOTUS.
Point is, I believe its largely an empty threat, and State attorneys, Governors and Legislatures shouldn’t blink, when withholding Federal funds is threatened.
Much like Az legislatures “go ahead, make our day” responce to the DOJ on the Audit, States shouldn’t cave to threats or coercion from the Fed., but should instead WELCOME the fight.
Its actually the best way to rein in the Feds, by kicking their *ss in court, repeatedly.
Those powers not specifically enumerated to the Federal government are reserved to the States and the People.
WHERE in the Constitution does the Federal government have the authority to regulate/restrict drug use, or mandateeducation curriculum, or the myriad of other powers they have usurped?
Take a look at the 1984 National Minimum Drinking Age Act. The Feds required that States prohibit persons under 21 from purchasing or publicly possessing alcoholic beverages as a condition of receiving highway funds. Straight up extortion, but every State fell in line.
They have used the Commerce clause of the constitution to justify all kinds of nefarious behavior. The SINGLE BEST ruling of the SC in the last 50 years was one that was buried in the news, including conservative news. That ruling was in the Obamacare ruling – most people remember that the the SC upheld Obamacare. Wrong. The SC upheld the “tax” portion of it. There were two other major parts of that legislation – one had to do with the Federal government using Medicaid moneys to bully states into compliant behavior, and the Feds used the Commerce clause to justify it (just as they had used it hundreds of times before). This time the SC, with a 7-2 vote, upheld states rights and rejected the Feds usage of the Commerce clause – it was the first time that had happened.
Yes, John Roberts has done some really dumb things – including voting to uphold the tax. But I’ve always wondered if he struck that bargain with Stevens and Kagan to strike a Really conservative vote that was way broader than the narrow Obamacare vote and thus hugely more consequential. if he did it for that reason and got the votes that way (and could not have gotten that 7-2 vote another way) – I applaud him. Those 2 votes by the Dems sent a huge signal – not least to Puglosi who has not tried to use the commerce clause since.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1413147468632444938
This bag has been lying and lying for a very long time.
Piglosi and friends bring their own swamp with them….her family has been corrupt and corrupters since the 50s in Baltimore
Nancy Patricia D’Alesandro from Little Italy in Baltimore was introduced to the Democrat party “family” by her father to begin her career at the age of nine.
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What made a little girl such a ‘darling’ of the DNC?
I mean, was she the only child born on her birthday, such that she stood out as ‘special’ . . .?
Frozen in time: A 20-year-old Nancy Pelosi somehow manages to keep her eyes on the camera as the handsome new President John F Kennedy grins down at her in an undated image on her Facebook page
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Daddy’s girl workin?
“…declassification process is a request by an agency, even a traditionally superior agency like the President of the United States, to the Intelligence Branch asking for them to release the information. The Intelligence Branch again holds full unilateral control. If the head of the CIA refuses to comply with the declassification instruction of the President, what can the president do except fire him/her?”
Would President Trump have been able to fire all the heads of the various intelligence agencies and put an “Acting Director” in each agency, giving President Trump someone who had authority and a willingness to grant a declassification request from him?
Any uproar over ‘obstruction of justice’ by dems and swamp critters would melt away once the truth is visible for all to see.
No, because the “acting” would be swamp qualified, first off.
Secondly, such an “acting” would not actually HAVE their hands on the info, they would “order” staff to get them the info, and staff would use every means in their considerable arsenal to obsfuscate, block, delay etc. actually GETTING the info.
Recall the original reports of the Flynn interview were NEVER produced, and “lost” in a system where such loss is SUPPOSED to be impossible.
Thank you for your excellent answer.
Well, the President has the power to publish the information by first declassifying it and then giving it to whoever he pleases. However, then he would face a shit storm in the media and Congress ending with accusations of him being a traitor and calls for impeachment. If no Russia and no Ukraine beforehand, I believe PDJT would’ve done it – but with those two behind and elections right around the corner, the risk was too high. If the conservative polls showed him to be behind quite a bit, he’d have thought he had nothing left to lose and would’ve done it, IMHO.
♦ Similarly the declassification process is a request by an agency, even a traditionally superior agency like the President of the United States, to the Intelligence Branch asking for them to release the information.
The Intelligence Branch again holds full unilateral control. If the head of the CIA refuses to comply with the declassification instruction of the President, what can the president do except fire him/her? {Again, GO DEEP}
How does the President replace the non-compliant cabinet member?… They have to go through the SSCI confirmation… See the problem?
– SD ⬆
Didn’t PDJT also have that rat-bastid rosenstein on AF1 around this time and rosie somehow talked PDJT down from efforts to de-class?
“all to see” implies MSM and/or the Hi-tech Axis! Good luck with that. Besides, we know half of our voting population is blind, stupid and compliant.
So….basically, democracy is now a threat to national security. As a result, everything is now subject to classification.
If the IC/SSCI control all downstream agencies, why was “Wolfe” allowed to be “Caught”?
He was the sacrificial lamb. They had to have someone take the blame so it looks like they are doing oversight.
They didn’t know about the investigation. That’s how.
It wasn’t run out of Main Justice or FBI HQ.
The IC/SSCI didn’t find out about Dugan’s investigation until after Jessie Liu handed his file to Main Justice.
Silo
So…
when Jessie Liu handed the file to Main Justice, the IC/SSCI/DOJ/FBI realizes someone outside their influence knew….
“The FISA Court released a copy of the Carter Page FISA application to the SSCI. The SSCI then leaked the FISA Application to the media. The media then reported on Carter Page as part of the vast Russian Conspiracy (the insurance policy) based on the SSCI leak. The FBI and DOJ then used the 2017 media reporting from the SSCI leak to request the June 2017 FISA renewal.
Keep in mind, all of this happened under the current FBI and DOJ leadership.
Can you see the corruption problem for the DOJ and FBI?
Now, keep walking this out. How likely is it that James Wolfe leaked that FISA application at the request of Senators on the SSCI?
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2018/09/07/the-declassification-conundrum/
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Solution for IC/SSCI/DOJ/FBI…
“Mr. Wolfe’s defense lawyers are considering calling the senators as part of the proceedings for a variety of reasons, including as potential character witnesses and to rebut some of the allegations made by the government in the criminal complaint, these people say.
If senators declined to appear voluntarily for either a deposition or at trial, they could be subpoenaed. That action that could spark a legal battle over a constitutional provision that gives lawmakers certain immunity and privilege for actions undertaken as part of their official duties, as well as over how much national security information can be disclosed in open court.”
https://www.wsj.com/articles/former-intelligence-committee-aides-lawyers-want-testimony-from-senators-1532692801
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The IC/SSCI/DOJ/FBI avoided their “leak issues”, gave Wolfe a “Slap” (Jessie Liu) and the “Liability” disappeared.
Wolfe played along.
The June 2017 FISA renewal is (in part) based on media “Reports” which originated from information obtained illegally via the SSCI leak!!
Have I got that right?
Is this why we have never seen a clean copy of the June 2017 FISA renewal?
So lets assume a super majority in Congress are compromised; indeed something that is likely the case for many powerful people well beyond Congress. Either the IC has some embarrassing personal stuff on them and/or some illegal stuff; more on that in moment.
Lets also say We the People via State level action, somehow manage to get ‘enough’ of a honest election system in place by 2022 to replace many corrupt Representatives with fresh blood MAGA in Congress and in 2024 get a MAGA President back in charge of the Executive branch again.
Now absent the threat of the IC blackmail all three branches, working together, they could effectively shutdown IC 1.0 and stand up new much smaller, efficient and Constitutional constrained IC 2.0.
Step one is for Congress to pass a bill that the President signs into law that specifically makes it a serious criminal act for anyone, including the press, to make public, or for the justice system to prosecute anyone utilizing information collected outside the clear Constitutional limits of 4th Amendment. Basically IC’s little electronic black book they have been accumulating since the ‘un’ Patriot act, will be illegal. If you become too much of threat, they look you up, and then go after you. We also know if they can’t find anything they will just make it up or forge it as well.
Keep in mind that this approach ‘also’ means We the People are letting all these crooks off the hook, but I don’t see any other way to do this?
But one thing about real crooks is they tend to break the law even after they are granted some form of a pardon. Others, now free of this system of corruption, will go on to live good lives as well, hope springs eternal. I figure its up to God as to what ultimately happens anyway. The key is, should they mess up again, the government will once again be constrained by the 4th Amendment and I would add; we need to eliminate all the abuses that Sidney Powell lays out in her book License to Lie.
In exchange this effectively takes out the Sword of Damocles that the IC 1.0 has over our Representatives and thus We the People. In fact I’m sure they don’t just use their black book on Congress, its likely used to control anyone that would oppose them or doesn’t follow their orders.
From this position a brand new IC 2.0 is created and budgeted that replaces IC 1.0 and staffed with new ‘qualified’ people, well known white hats (ie Gen Flynn etc.) and ‘perhaps’ whistleblowers from IC 1.0, provided they help us separate the good from the bad. All the budgets and other capital assets are rapidly shifted to the IC 2.0.
Anyone in the DOD, above the rank of Colonel, is also cleaned out in similar fashion. Though we may keep few slots for proven white hats and may pull some white hats from retirement.
Anyone we can’t fire for some reason is given seat warming assignments as far way, and as undesirable location as we can legally send them too.
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In my mind, it was most likely a Congressperson who introduced the IC to the means of controlling the whole of government.
Then, that Congressperson had the IC ‘turn’ against them at the behest of a President, as that president wanted that control that Congressperson had.
Then, we were blessed with a President who wanted to eliminate that means of controlling the government.
And, he, our VSGPDJT was up against the Congresspeople who have allowed and reveled in the IC’s control them, and that former President’s executive services personnel that wanted the means to control Trump.
He still has some supporters in positions of power, trying to out this means of control, but Big Tech and MSM dilute their voices unceremoniously.
Hence, there are at least three factions fighting for control in DC, and two of them are fighting to control that means that a Congressperson introduced, while the other wants to expose, and, finally, finally, ‘out’ that means, and make sure no such means are ever ‘produced’ again.
What all three factions need to deal with, however, is the Timing of God’s Plan, which, perhaps, includes that Congressperson’s ‘come to Jesus’ moment, knowing their death is approaching — and the need for confession for redemption is nigh . . .
I fundamentally agree with the concept of God’s plan. In short, can we mere mortals change his plans, collectively let alone individually?
Rather I would suggest that its our opposition to this evil that indicates to God, absent absolute knowledge of his existence, whether our souls should reside in Heaven or Hell.
In the end we must fight against this evil; even if we won’t see victory in our lives on this good Earth.
https://www.biblica.com/bible/niv/2-peter/3/
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No, mere mortals can only, as you say, know to oppose evil.
Thus, a confession is not necessary for His Plan to Manifest, other than maybe give the confessor some measure of dismantling the evil the confessor took part in . . .
In the 80s, I wondered why someone running for Congress on a pro-life position would suddenly switch their votes only a few months after the election to a pro-abortion one. I was told it was because the DNC would take away their fund raising and then primary them. But this seemed to happen to Republican congressmen also. So I suspected they were all being blackmailed – but I didn’t know by whom or how.
Now I know. Thanks, Sundance.
Well the right position would be too resign rather than endorse the death of innocent millions.
Remember the 60 seat majority was only obtained with one of the first public thefts of a national election since 1960…Al Franken was handed the MN US Senate seat after multiple recounts were able to finally declare he had won the election…the key find was a tranche of ballots found in an election worker’s trunk
Senator Stevens being wrongly targeted for prosecution, exonerated after the election, and the conveniently dieing in a planecrash,…sure looks like another in a long list,…
Seth Rich, Epstien, Senate Stevens,….?
The fact it was Bush’s DOJ that went after Stevens used to puzzle me. Not so much any more
Sundance! Amazing. Thank you.
We are being monitored here for sure. Beware of FBI plants. Anyone talking about violence or anything that can be used against all of us. Fear not, but… be aware.
CCP looks for weak, flaccid insecure men–like Mitch McConnell, Mark Zuckerberg, Rupert Murdoch. CCP recruits one if its female members to flatter and seduce these men…because there is no way they would be remotely interested otherwise in them other than for their money and access to power. Cue Elaine Chao, Priscilla Chan, Wendy Deng. Does anyone think for one second Elaine Chao isn’t CCP? or Priscilla Chan?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I’ve always questioned Senator Tom Cotton’s loyality because he is on the SSCI! I’ve never trusted little Marco Rubio!
First, these incredibly comprehensive and detailed pieces that Sundance writes are exceptional and so appreciated. There’s so much there, I usually have to read them more than once. The level of information and insight is amazing and I just wanted to express my gratitude.
Second, and regarding this post, I wonder if (maybe) what Greenwald is talking about explains some of the phenomenon we see repeated over and over again whereby we elect someone to office who we think is going to be very good only to find they quickly morph into a squish or just go silent altogether.
I’ve often scratched my (now sore) head and wondered what’s up with that? Were they lying to us all along just to get our vote? Were they paid off once they took office and were weak and corrupt? Did they cave to pressure from inside the power brokers in the party so as not to be denied committee assignments, etc? Is there something in the water in DC? And while all of these things are likely true to varying degrees, now I wonder if they’re scared of the very agency they’re supposed to be monitoring. If so, then we’ve got a bunch of cowards because if this is the horrific reality (ie, the CIA and other alphabet agencies will make life hell for you and your family, etc) then we need true warriors to stand up to it with all the bravery they must muster.
And three, it makes me appreciate Trump all the more to realize the depth of deception he was up against. And while many may criticize him for many things (deserved, or otherwise), I am now of the opinion that he was fighting a battle on so many fronts that none of us could even imagine it or survive it. And so, if he made mistakes (all humans do), and if he underestimated the breadth and depth of the evil that grinds away 24/7 in Washington, then I can only feel compassion for this man – just one man – who faced it all down with such incredible energy and conviction, only to be undermined over and over again.
G-d bless Donald Trump.
What a tangled, tangled web in which we find ourselves. I know not what the path forward will be and pray, pray, pray G-d will make it clear.
Sarah~~
I agree 100% with your observation/comments!
Please feel free to use the word God in its totality. You’ll not offend anyone here. ?
Rock, I may be wrong, but I believe Sarah’s reference to “G-d” is a way for a certain religion(s) to express deference to Hashem. I don’t believe Sarah was concerned about offending “anyone here.”
Absolutely Correct.
Deuteronomy 12:4 prohibits Jews from erasing, destroying or desecrating the name of G‑d. Following the Torah ’s instruction to “obliterate the name” of idolatry in the Land of Israel, it is forbidden to erase or disrespect the name of G_d. G‑d has seven names in Hebrew that are considered holy and forbidden to destroy or erase. Practicing Jews avoid writing the Name by substituting letters or syllables, for example, writing “G-d” instead of “God.” In addition, the number 15, which would ordinarily be written in
Hebrew as Yod-Hei (10-5), is normally written as Teit-Vav (9-6), because Yod-Hei is a reference to the Name of G_d.
In other words, one may not casually refer the the Almighty in any publicly written space because the Name of the Almighty would be erased when a web page is closed or a newspaper is tossed away. Those acts would desecrate the Name of the Almighty, and that is forbidden. It is meant as an act of Respect.
Totally agree – I posted something similar before I saw yours!
Here’s what I think we should do: tell EVERY Congressperson that their prior sins (and sins belonging to all their families) are forgiven if they come clean NOW. And not just forgiven, they will be rewarded handsomely if they can show that the IC had either directly blackmailed them, or indirectly by simply making mention that they knew of these sins.
Turn the tables.
The Uniparty.
This is the reason for their act of desperation on 11/3/20 and Hillary’s comment about nooses after Matt Lauer asked a tough question.
The facade is crumbling.
And that’s probably why Trump said that the most important thing he would ever do, is deal with election fraud.
The last two paragraphs, having honest elections at State levels – it may be that these 3-letter agencies have seen that possibility as a threat to their continuing hold on power and may explain the recent rash of “former” 3-letter agency employees running for elective offices at the State level.
Its not all bad news. The 4th branch sacrificed one of its useful idiots today. Avenatti is going to prison for 30 months( he’ll be out in a year). But hey, its all an illusion anyway.
I don’t know anyone alive on this Earth that does as good a job as Sundance defining the evil we confront. Not only in the United States of America (mankind’s last stand), but the the world in general.
But we Patriots must focus on solutions, not just complain about the state of affairs, or develop solutions that we have tried many times but have not worked in the end, ie Tea Party.
Ideally solutions that conform to existing State laws and the Constitution, even though as matter of fact those currently in charge don’t; especially in the District of Corruption.
Remember the ten commandments wasn’t written for the dammed but the saved. We must at all times remain in the light of the Lord, something our atheist opponents have no idea about. Something my Father told me that his Father told him before leaving into war zone; namely “stay in state of grace”. Yet these commandments from God are both simultaneously our greatest weakness, and yet our greatest strength.
Always remember that in any tyranny their is by definition 100,000x more of us (producers) than them (parasites), this is why they fear us, they ultimately know they are worthless. The only question is what the vast majority does about it?
I will add, its the vast majority that produce ‘all’ value; without MAGA, these seemingly powerful parasites are literally nothing, heck the can’t even provide for the basics of life beyond three days. Most can’t even wipe their butt without a trip to the local store this weekend.
Seriously, how powerful is that? Paper products that all come from MAGA, I might add.
You can take it to the bank, Sundance is being spied on by the deep state. As are all of us who post here. We are on the deep state’s shit list. What awaits us is any one’s guess.
No govt oversight and the entire sot of them ‘investigate’ each other; so where does that lead?
Lindsay Graham has been run interference for how many yrs now? He’s hot, he’s cold. He’s lukewarm, all about what needs to be done to keep it all under wraps.
I trust NOBODY sitting in Congress; regardless if a Dem, Indy or a Republican. Mike Pence was doing a job for 4Y. McConnell has been for a life-time. Rubio, the darling 8 member….think he’s changed? Rubio and Lindsay loved McCain….who, himself was as wicked as a witch.
Since BHO, Jarrett, Holder, Lynch, Rahm, et als entered DC; every agency (already corrupt) heightened to the max their power, control, gutless seige of information that has forever changed the country. No doubt the abc agencies have thwarted any attempt by SCOTUS to keep country on the straight and narrow. Roberts as worthless as kudzu and now Kavanaugh and ACB have joined those ranks, ruling against a Baptist florist sued by gays. It’s o-v-e-r…my fellow citizens.
FBI may as well be the KBG; I think they are more ruthless and dangerous. Comey walks, Weinstein, Mueller, Struyk, Page, Wray…..laugh at us daily…what fools we are or were to think they were going to jail. HRC deleted 33k emails subpoenaed by the courts, walked and laughed….and took a hammer to blackberries….and walked and laughed…Fast & Furious, Benghazi, Las Vegas shooting; criminal; yet was anyone ever held accountable, much less tried in a court of law????
Catch the Alaska couple on Ingraham this wk?
Attended Jan 6 rally in Alaska. Never entered capitol and were outside the entire time.
FBI raided their home, took a copy of a constitution (why????) the couple received free at a congressional office. They were finally cleared. Last wk, took a flight from Alaska to Calif for a funeral. Were searched at airport, their luggage searched 3x and they were required by TSA to go through security clearance 2x. They were followed to the airplane and their carry-ons were AGAIN searched ON THE PLANE by TSA. Return trip, ditto……They are on every flight document, flight risk report available. THESE PEOPLE travelled to DC on Jan 6th and DID NOTHING WRONG; yet they are being terrorized and tortured BECAUSE THE GOVT CAN!!!!!!!!! And we dare call out Russia, China, Cuba, N Korea??????????? We DARE call out communists or dictators??????? WHY, we are WORSE…..
Those lucky enough to taste the power, join the 4thBranchClub.
PDJT gave some Noble Congress members hope so they risked some ( Johnson, Nunes)… But his defeat in the election though theft has left whistle blowers fearing it can’t be defeated, so why try.
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Taint the NSA data via a fun app that adds filters to your calls and text/emails ( sends random word generated stuff on your behalf)
It’s so fun to see what the autogenerated word messenger comes up with, a d your friends ask if you really sent that or if the app did!
I didn’t see that episode – haven’t watched Fox in a while.
That couple has a strong lawsuit against the Federal government.
and when the Intel group needs to declassify to cover the ass of the a CRIMINAL LEAKER – Wolfe and Mark Warner; they simply get NYT to FOIA it so its public info by the time the court charges Wolfe.
1 ) The FOIA did not contain simple copies of the original documents (instead it included the leaked 3/1717 stamped ones; they were stamped cause an FBI Agent had them stamped prior to handing them to Mark Warner – this is how Mark gets caught but doesnt give a damn if we know it!)
2) solution to launder the classified info and make the CRIME GO AWAY: The FOIA snuck in the 2 leaked FISA documents stamped 3/17/17 by FBI AGENT Brian Dugan
3) This made the previously leaked classsified info by Wolfe now obselete (since the record COULD HAVE BEEN this new fresh FOIA’d NYT document
A) —- Leak Classified —B) Get Caught — C) place leaked materials into a FOIA to make them PUBLIC Material —- D) US Attorney Corrupt Liu now can say no classfied Docs were leaked by wolfe
What sundance has been pointing out that is SICKKKKKKKKKKKK – is that its OBVIOUS TO ANYONE WITH A BRAIN THAT THEY DID THIS cause its freaking stamped 3/17/17 from another persons ‘clerk requested document’ when the DAMN FOIA BY NYTs requested Carter Page FISA (which would of simply been to print the original files AND NOT THE FBI AGENT BRIAN DUGAN 3/17/17 documents)
Hope people get this. Tear this Commment apart if you don’t get it. We need to make this simple to understand.
and i may even be seeing it wrong. tear it apart. this concept needs to be crafted into a simple message anyone can understand
When PT wins in 2024 I think it is time that Sundance becomes PT’s Chief of Staff!
I like many Americans, I love it when my back is against the wall and defeat is not an option. No matter how long the odds are, VICTORY is within our grasp because of the Lord we serve.
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Thank you Lord for exposing our enemies weaknesses, among which is incompetence.
And firing the CIA / FBI / NSA leader would bring political repercussions.
But it appears Ric Grenell was able to Declass far more than Ratcliffe.
Why?
We need an IC or IT MOLE to leak the 99-page Judge Collyer legal finding – 100% unrelated.
Is devout Catholic DOJ attorney John Durham a Patriot, or a useful, slow-moving Cleaner?
I was making this argument to libtards 5 years ago (Flynn, Page)
It’s illegal to unmask and leak this crap
Libtards didn’t care, didn’t even faze them.
Thanks to SD, I KNEW, but the libtards didn’t want to follow along.
This blew me away, as I thought EVERYONE was concerned about 4th A violations.
Another way is to do EXACTLY what the Obama Administration did when WE return to power… 1.) Purge, then Handpick ALL appointments to the Intelligence community positions… 2.)Appoint an Inhouse organization watchdog to monitor all incoming and outgoing data… And 3.) Use the Unmasking process ourselves (why not? They restarted the minute they regained control) to destroy all elements of the Deepstate and the Marxist underbelly that is attempting to destroy America… At least in this case, the cause merits the action…