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And here he is again, colluding with the enemy.
In a search on “Election Security Research Centre and Lab”, the #2 item is a company name I have heard before, regarding gubt censorship of dissident citizens. I had not been able to find out anything more about them, because I did not know how their name was spelled, and I kept running into blanks. Now I know.
https://www.mitre.org/news/focal-points/election-integrity
THIS company came up as #1:
https://electioninnovation.org
https://electioninnovation.org/research/ceir-2020-voter-education-grant-program
The OTHER Zuckbuck$ Grant Program For RE-EDUCATION.
There is nothing that exists by the name Harri gave.
I was waiting for this to be approved. I found the place sort of referenced by Harri:
Election Integrity Foundation and Cyber Bytes Foundation Announce the Addition of a Permanent Election (Security) Research Lab and Education Center
Stafford, VA
22 Sep 2020
https://cyberbytesfoundation.org/news/election-integrity-foundation-and-cyber-bytes-foundation-announce-the-addition-of-a-permanent-election-security-research-lab-and-education-center
MITRE corp. is an interesting rabbit hole to explore. It is the front for the long secret JASON Society / JASON Group government contracted think tank for subjects like advanced technology, global warming / ice age theories , Star Wars , submarine warfare, etc.
JASON is mentioned in The Pentagon Papers as having invented the electronic barrier between North and South Viet Nam to monitor troop movements.
Supporters scramble to rescue storied JASON advisory group
Sciencemag.org – 4/19/19
IIRC Nellie Ohr and Stefan Halper’s son (forget his name) worked at MITRE.
Well aint that cozy
Just received an email from employer stating an answer is mandatory with the following question: Have you been vaccinated for covid with J&J, Pfizer or Moderna? Yes or No.
Can they do this?
Answer honestly. Company number crunchers may just be taking a survey. Unfortunately, if it comes to them forcing employees to take the
blue pillvaccine they will have the full force of the current deep state government backing them up.Right. But in the mean time find a good lawyer to help just in case.
Shared post (locals.com)
Dear Boss,
Compelling any employee to take any current Covid-19 vaccine violates federal and state law.
First, federal law prohibits any mandate of the Covid-19 vaccines as unlicensed, emergency-use-authorization-only vaccines. Subsection bbb-3(e)(1)(A)(ii)(III) of section 360 of Title 21 of the United States Code, otherwise known as the Emergency Use Authorization section of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act, demands that everyone give employees the “option to accept or refuse administration” of the Covid-19 vaccine. ( … ) This right to refuse emergency, experimental vaccines, such as the Covid-19 vaccine, implements the internationally agreed legal requirement of Informed Consent established in the Nuremberg Code of 1947.
As the Nuremberg Code established, every person must “be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision” for any medical experimental drug, as the Covid-19 vaccine currently is. The Nuremberg Code prohibited even the military from requiring such experimental vaccines. (Doe #1 v. Rumsfeld, 297 F.Supp.2d 119 (D.D.C. 2003).
Secondly, demanding employees divulge their personal medical information invades their protected right to privacy, and discriminates against them based on their perceived medical status, in contravention of the Americans with Disabilities Act. (42 USC §12112(a).)
Third, conditioning continued employment upon participating in a medical experiment and demanding disclosure of private, personal medical information, may also create employer liability under other federal and state laws, including HIPAA, FMLA, and applicable state tort law principles, including torts prohibiting and proscribing invasions of privacy and battery. Indeed, any employer mandating a vaccine is liable to their employee for any adverse event suffered by that employee. The CDC records reports of the adverse events already reported to date concerning the current Covid-19 vaccine.
With Regards,
Employee of the Year
Dear (Soon to be Ex-)Employee,
No one said you have to take anything. Our Workers Comp. insurer needs to know how many employees are vaccinated in order to set our rates. Yes, we have the legal right to ask, just as the insurer has the legal right to know the answer.
Since you’ve prematurely moved into an adversarial position, I’m afraid we must try to get along as best we can without your future participation in our company. We have no job openings for troublemakers at this time. Your refusal to answer a simple question we have the right to ask will be reflected as insubordination in any referral from us toward future employment.
Good Luck in your future endeavors,
At-will Employer
Wow, you have the communist/authoritarian lines down pat. Have you been on the receiving end of them or do you design them?
‘Invisible Mikey’ seems visibly upset 🙂
Decades ago I lost a great job at arbitration, because I had not studied the terms of my Employment Contract carefully enough. It never happened again.
WOW!
This guy has been pro vaccine the whole time.
Now he is an employment attorney too.
There is more to it than how he presents it.
As mom used to say, it’s not what you say, but how you say it that matters.
May I add that I have never been in favor of MANDATORY vaccination? But sure, on a risk vs benefit basis, if your doctor recommends it, I’m absolutely in favor of developing and using vaccines.
When I was a boy, every hospital had polio wards. When’s the last time you saw an “iron lung”?
“developing and using vaccines” – yes, but too bad they skipped the whole long-term side effect studies by going straight to human trials and not lab animal testing.
But, I guess it’s an “emergency” (despite everything most here believed is turning out true: the virus was here before they said it was, the fatality rate isn’t that bad, drugs such as hydrochloroquin work, etc.).
I have nothing against vaccines, I just don’t think it’s necessary to vaccinate agains Covid, any other coronavirus, the flu, etc. They are ever evolving viruses. You’re better off focusing on making yourself overall healthy plus supplement where needed (Vit D in winter, Vit C or anywhere your specific blood chemistry is lacking) .
Take the vaccine if you want, but there’s no need to mandate or worry about wether someone else took it or not.
Dude has to be a Biden voter.
Bravo! Eric C.
I agree with you.
The polio, smallpox, and other vaccines cannot be compared to the experimental injections for covid–which have been mislabeled as vaccines.
In fact, the decades-old, proven vaccines are of much higher value to the populace than other flu vaccines. Of course some folks benefit from the other flu vaccines, but to me and to many it is not worth the risk, i.e.: a virile 35 yr. church member of ours got a seasonal flu vaccine, and has been in a wheel chair ever since; a family member–still in good health in her golden years–died 6 weeks after getting the seasonal flu vaccine. Doctor even put the shot onto her death certificate as cause of death.
in summary go work at walmart if you dont want the vaccine and lose your current job you are use to and like – simply because you ‘already had covid, have antibodies, dont need the damn vaccine”
there is zero reason inject a body with anything they don’t NEEEEEEEEEED.
Invisible mikey I FEEL IS OPEN TO people with antibodies being exempt from the vaccine (he is pro hospital admin, but is reasonable? – i think so)
you people haven’t read a word he has written… not a one of you. go back and do it again. only this time, do it better.
Invisible Mikey, a few of us here understand what you wrote and that you aren’t pro vac – the others are just ready to drop on anyone who doesn’t line up perfectly.
i agree its hard to tell what people are saying sometimes.
but with simple math we can see the issue
1) if you argue an employer has a right to ask a q, thats cool
2) but if the question leads to termination – then its not just a question – its the end of your life. jobs are easy to find sure. but who wants to lose a job they moved up and and are making a good living?
3) finally – it would be reasonable for Mikey to suggest us showing antibodies – that would indicate the TOPIC IS ABOUT THE VIRUS and not about Submission.
You people?
No fighting in the war room gentlemen! Dissension in the ranks will get us nowhere..but defeated. Please listen to loriann1
Mostly I’m pro medicine. I’m in favor of consulting licensed, qualified providers in order to get the best info available. People have different health needs. I support every patient’s right to refuse any medication. But if you choose Internet research over the advice of your own doctor, I’m going to reserve the right to think you are being foolish.
Absolutely. Being recovered from the disease should certainly be the standard for a medical exemption from having to vaccinate where employers require it. It is in my local hospital and the independent practices I know.
Hospitals are a special class of employer. Hospital staff work in direct physical contact with the most vulnerable populations of patients, and nosocomial infections are no joke. IMO, they are entitled to demand that workers take extra precautions, above those the general public needs to take.
It’s really no different in principle than having to adhere to the safety standards of whatever kind of job you do. Some jobs require steel-toed footwear and hard hats. Some require extra PPE, extra shots, and a higher than average level of cleanliness.
Ha ha ha. Polio wards. What a LAUGH! Exactly what provision was made for the rampant soft-tissue cancers CAUSED by the Salk vaccine’s use of monkey viruses? I’m waiting.
Oh, and polio was decreasing before the “vaccine” was introduced. Yeah. Inconvenient factoid.
For people who actually care to learn more: Dr. Mary’s Monkey is a great book.
Dr. Mary’s Monkey is an excellent read..
So ALL vaccines forever and always are good because polio. …. not buying that argument anymore, it doesn’t hold water. It is the go to argument for every vaccine developed and lazy thinkers.
Most docs don’t even bother to read the package insert on vaccines. Too many docs no longer practice independent medicine or thinking. They do what they are told by the giant medical conglomerate that owns them or follow what the pharmaceutical companies tell them to do. All the medical schools do the same. There is an unholy, unhealthy alliance between medicine and big pharma. You’de have to be obtuse not to see it. If nothing else the treatment of COVID (and the stonewalling of effective treatmeant)and the pushing of the experimental vaccine by the medical community should be an indicator of how far the establishment medical community has fallen. I thank God there are doctors with intelligence and INTEGRITY speaking out now. For those with ears to hear, let them hear.
I just gave an obvious example. I also had school classmates go deaf and develop heart problems from rubella, and I was in hospital when I got mumps at 15. As a worker I’ve had to watch an infant unvaccinated against pertussis take three months to cough to death. Had to hold onto a sobbing mom when the doc I worked for called 911 for her toddler that had not been vaccinated against meningitis.
The one time I went against medical advice was in waiting to get the shingles vaccine, because it costs $200+ if you are under 65. (It’s free with Medicare.) I got shingles, and it was the worst pain I have ever experienced, for weeks. If I had understood that, or paid better attention, I would have sold my car to get those shots.
Not buying what you are selling.
Looks like somebody took the vaccine.
“No one said you have to take anything” And you can bet it will be total coincidence that all new hires just happen to be vaccinated.
Workers Compensation is state administered. In Florida, the governor made it clear that vaccine passports are illegal so Workers Comp will NOT be needing to know. That will go for all the other states that follow suit.
Premature responses are the result of deliberate obfuscation. You failed to say anything about WHY you were asking in the first place. The reason you chose to use is a contrived lie.
As for legality, where in the response did you see anything that is not legally valid?
this isnt rocket science – they are tailoring their workforced to injected people only, and not antibody people also.
and thats shockingly DISGUSTING and TYRANICAL to ignore immunity. to ignore immunity. to ignore immunity.
Again, the original post, the first one in the thread, said the employer asked vaccination status, and said answering the question is mandatory. The employee can certainly query why it is being asked, but the EEOC has ruled it’s legal to do.
There are other kinds of insurance, as well as state licensing regulations, where such questions may be mandatory. Most of my career was in hospitals and clinics. Many aspects of your health info can be required for malpractice insurance, or to maintain a physician’s DEA license, a nursing/tech license, sometimes a business license for a practice. I often was assigned the duty of making sure all the necessary forms were filled out and filed on time. The forms and requirements change over the years.
On the question of legal validity, that is in progress. The 117 employees of Houston Methodist just lost at district court, using the specific arguments Gipper provided. I posted several times prior to that ruling that the Nuremberg Code is not relevant law, so you can’t rely on it as justification in a civil lawsuit about a labor dispute.
“…the employee can certainly query why….” which instantly becomes a premature adversarial response leading to employment rejection along with the threat of broadcasting the employees identity to poison any future job elsewhere.
Again, states that legally prohibit vaccine passports (meaning right to employment as well) make this whole line of reasoning invalid. Those states that have degenerated into tyranny are another matter and it is up to the voters to decide whether the entire idea of forcing people to take an experimental vaccine which potentially has killed more people already than the annual US homicide rate is morally defensible.
They held a famous trial in Nuremberg on the medical experiments Dr Mengele was conducting and the violations were so egregious, the Nurénberg Code of Medical Ethics were developed and agreed to by nations including the US. People were held to account in that trial.
We’ll see where the International and US courts go with this when it is invoked. In the meanwhile you’re just speculating.
Show me the legal right to ask….please.
Soros cooks up the scripts for just these occasions. He’ll be back with something bogus.
Not exactly a simple question, because specific context matters:
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/pages/employers-should-be-cautious-when-asking-about-vaccination-status.aspx
What dark secrets do you hide, Mickey? Are you a corporatist provocateur? Is that why you picture yourself with a covered face?
Been over that many times, humor-challenged newbie commenter. I like old monster movies, and in text we can’t see each other. It’s from the 1933 “Invisible Man”.
there are a lot of humorless people here.. the rest of the adults understand what you’ve written AND actually read it.
Humorless?
Include me out 🙂
all people will one day see a a vaccine mandate masked as ‘right to work’ that will bring fear in them also.
I read it. I understand it. It isn’t funny.
Gettin kinda silly ain’t it. Folks got too much time on their hands it seems.
You must be unaware this response will have your company paying unemployment benefits. Should you give any negative referral you have implied you will do, you will also be liable to pay more than unemployment benefits.
Sucks working for a Fascist.
Yes, there is a distinction between asking if you have been vaccinated and demanding you be vaccinated. But you can’t do the second without doing the first.
Are employers then entitled to all our medical info under the insurance rate-rationale?
If they were entitled to all of our medical info, then they would have the right to ask if you as an employee, engage in unprotected sex with multiple partners, for the purpose of setting insurance rates don’t cha know.
Yes, the same rules and protocol developed during the Aids era.
This is some serious overreach.
It seems as though the govt is now pressuring employers to ask this question. Normally businesses are too busy and don’t give a shite.
The governors are clearly being monetarily incentivized to hit 70% Vax rate. How do we know? Free tacos, béer, lotteries, free college education, whatever. If they hit, they win $$$$.
The govt seems to be hitting up companies now. I am seeing comments on a lot of websites employees are being asked and being dismissed from employment. If you don’t have another job lined up before they give you the ax, make them fire you in writing with the REASON.
A good answer is that ‘my doctor doesn’t advise that I get the Vax AT THIS TIME.’
I dare any employer to fire someone over this excuse.
Invisible Mike makes valid points. Employers can ask questions about vaccinations and insurance companies are driving this.
“Adversarial position”?
Me thinks employee just is refusing to join the sheep.
Thanks!
I’ll save that for later.
BRV, I will not take the shot!! I will leave an employer of over twenty years first if they mandated a shot.
I wouldn’t quit. Make them release you with everything in writing/email.
EXACTLY!!!!! Make them go ON RECORD big time for the reason behind their dismissal.
They will just make something up..I got canceled/fired early on once “they” found out I was a Trump supporter…Glad they did, I ended up in a better place.
The problem is this.. my employment requires that I take a PCR test every day and if I don’t I will be denied entry and it will be considered unpaid leave. It will be the same with the vaccine..no vax, no entry, unpaid leave.
https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download
Read this doc carefully. It says the Vax is NOT approved. On p8 it says people who are allergic should not take it. Tell them your doc has advised you not take it at this time due to allergies. Keep reading. One of the side affects is death, which is why you cannot take it per your doctor because of allergies. At the end, the doc says the Vax MAY PREVENT COVID. It doesn’t say it WILL prevent covid.
My response was: I do not consent to share my personal healthcare with anybody.
These shots are experimental and not licensed for any indication (medical speak for valid reason).
https://twitter.com/heidegger79/status/1404107720387670019?s=21
all of this is heartbreaking.. my whole family has taken the shots. I haven’t and wont. I got a flu shot ten years ago that put me in the hospital and the doctors could never explain it. Now I live in fear of their future health.
As sad as it is, there are many prescription drugs that list in the possible side affects, death, or major issues with health. But, many people continue to take them. Even aspirin can cause problems in some people.
You could also use driving as an analogy. You voluntarily drive. But if you do, someone beyond your control can smash into you. Does anybody say I’m simply not driving because it could lead to my death? Does anybody produce a video saying a relative died in a car crash so please people don’t drive?
As a child standing in line to get polio vaccine, another student passed out due to needle phobia or stress, and was taken to the hospital. They didn’t even get to the vaccine and had a side effect.
I guess my point is that everyone makes their own choice, no one should force it or diminish anyone who has taken it, and if you do have any side effects please report it so that any future research is improved. You think nobody ever died from the first organ transplants? Would anyone talk someone out of getting a new kidney or liver or heart because “people have died” from it?
Perspective. I have gotten a flu shot for 10+ years and never any issues or side effects. Also had no issues with the Pfizer vax. Should that make you want to go out and get it? Of course not!
Thank you, Wondering.
I am going to share the video with many right now.
Exactly.
The shots are experimental.
They are not true vaccines, either.
Make them fire you and Sue their tail off!
I agree with Captain. Do not leave voluntarily. But do not take a risky shot killing people if that is your choice. But for ANY retaliation, reduction of your work, reduction of opportunities, different treatment or making you leave (firing) document everything and start calling lawyers now.
There is a small Seventh Day Adventist nursing home down the road… they might need extra hands and brains.
The Methodist System can take their shots to the grave without me
any personal medical information is CONFIDENTIAL under HIPPA laws…they can ask and you can deny but you might have cause to sue
Video clips belong on the OPEN….
NO ! – Take the 5th , dig in heels.
Or get a doctor to say you can’t have it right now due to health issues related to the immune system…they might think you have AIDS and they won’t want to touch that one with a thirty foot pole.
Isn’t lying, and then covering up the lies with more lies, exactly the thing that got us into the mess?
Here in Ohio vaccinations have stalled at c. 40%: the DEMS who run Columbus (into the ground) have just decided to bribe the unvaccinated with $100.00 to take the vaccine!
Typical Socialists! The next step of course will be to arrest the unvaccinated.
Cincinnati Zoo is offering free admission to those taking the shot. Running through a gauntlet of nurses holding vaccines has replaced the metal detector, I guess. I wonder if the animals are getting it, as well.
— “I wonder if the animals are getting it, as well.” —
Nah, that would be ‘animal cruelty’ and they sure don’t want to go up against PETA and public opinion on that issue. ‘Experimental drugs on cute widdle animals, you’re insane!’ says the person wearing a mask in line for the COVID vaccine.
There’s all kinds of articles that zoo animals died of covid.
They also pushed our pets dogs and cats could get and spread covid.
Wonder how many monsters euthanized their pets.
My work is currently offering $500 for the jab
Absolutely not! No company has any right or moral obligation to ever ask such a personal question and is not a company I’d ever consider working for. My answer, because my soul is not for sale, but if I really wanted to work there, my answer would be, I have not and will never subject myself to being injected with an experimental, unknown compound, derived from Chinese bats and approved by Dr. Fauci, for a virus that is 99.7% survivable without it.
And if they have any concerns about their own souls:
https://twitter.com/heidegger79/status/1404107720387670019?s=21
To be realistic, it all depends what happens with the recent decision by the Federal Judge in Houston, Texas to stop the law suit by the representative of the 100+ nurses fired from the hospital for not getting vaccinated. The Judge sided with the employer.
The Federal District Court Judge essentially ruled:
The vaccine IS NOT experimental, rendering moot the argument about forcing use of an experimental drug.
Public safety and good outweighs individual rights, as in protections under constitution.
That is now the law of the land by precedent, until undone by a higher court or another court rules differently forcing a decision by the Supreme Court.
So, reality of the current situation is YES they can demand an answer, unless you want to try your luck at Federal Court roulette.
Sorta. It will be overturned.
I say no. It’s none of their bz unless you choose to make it their bz. Don’t, and say you did. 🙂
Say no all you want and say with emotion … deny the reality all you want … they have the courts behind them at this time. So, either comply, delay or sue are the options. Bottom line is that the question CAN BE LEGALLY asked and answer demanded.
Yeah hon, scream all you want. YOU are not his lawyer.
And since we could get 5 actual lawyers to offer five different opinions I suggest nobody listen to a poster and actually begin getting real world back up for matters related to employment and health.
Then even immoral, hasty, sketchily “legal” orders today can also be overturned like slavery, Jim Crow and now making the public guinea pigs for vaccine billionaires if he actually resists rather than just submitting to the onslaught which is absolutely guaranteed in many cases to damage health.
There is NO health intervention without serious risks, particularly this early in the game.
NONE in history.
AND he has privacy issues.
Regardless, he has to start getting real world help.
massive protest, boycoot, and light, will shame anyone.
our issue is WE HAVE TO WAIT – until PDJT bites ass and holds on. He has not done it yet. he has teased it, walked up to the line, has the dominos set up etc……
Did this Texas judge decide to change the Federal HIPAA privacy laws with his woke ruling? HIPAA is what every HR office is dancing around here.
HIPAA privacy laws clearly state we CANNOT be forced to disclose our health information to anybody. And even *if* we voluntarily disclose this private information to our employer, they are *not* authorized to *share* our confidential health information with anybody else, without first obtaining our *consent.*
Punitive restrictions like segregation and masks, that single out employees based on *confidential* information, would violate HIPAA’s law against announcing your personal information to others.
Oh.. and Big Pharma expressly *SOUGHT* the FDA’s EUA (which stands for EMERGENCY use authorization) so that they could be free from liability for side effects.
“Volunteering” for an EXPERIMENT is what puts all the risk on the VOLUNTEER, and not Big Harma.
I’m sure that Big Harma will therefore straighten that Judge out right quick!
Might try this if asked.
“I requested an oral vaccine by mail. Will let you know when I get it and take it.”
Easy, just like mail-in voting.
That judge’s decision has no force outside of his District, or with different parties.
That is an untested legal theory, not a fact. As thedocoo pointed out, the ruling is now precedent. It WILL be cited in future cases. If upheld on appeal, then it will have force outside the original situation.
So which shot did you get?
Asking for a room full of friends.
Why does a Biden voter even post here?
I signed up for a paid clinical trial to develop plasma therapeutics as new treatments for COVID and hopefully other diseases. Participants all got serologic (blood) tests, because they were harvesting the preferred types of antibodies from donated whole blood. Because I had not contracted the COVID virus, i did not have the desired antibodies. I was offered my choice of the three EUA vaccines if I wanted to continue in the trial.
After consulting my doctor, I got the Pfizer shots. They were the highest efficacy/lowest risk ones for my age and health profile. No side effects, not even a sore arm. We’ll know in a year or so if this leads to new products.
I have had health challenges since childhood. I couldn’t possibly qualify for military service. I made the choice way back in college to participate in trials for new drugs and new assistive technologies as one way to give back to this great country for saving my life over and over through medical interventions. I’ve never regretted the choice.
If you understand HOW precedent works, you would understand that the decision is ONLY precedent for the parties involved and in the District the judge is from.
It is NOT binding precedent ANYWHERE else, or on ANY OTHER PARTIES!
people walking into gas chambers thinking its a shower, TEND TO FORGET we are not ruled by judiacial tyranny.
this 1 fed judge ruling the entire country has become a TRICK AND LIE to subvert our country.
It is not precedent. It has advisory status to other circuits, but does not in any way bind them. It will not have any force outside of the 5th if upheld on appeal. The old “take it to the 9th and get a liberal ruling to bind all the US federal courts” has been abrogated, or didn’t you pay attention? The ruling by the 5th should they uphold a questionable district court ruling will be advisory to other circuits, but not mandatory for them to follow. Each circuit is its own boss under the SCOTUS.
I really wish people would stay in their own wheel house and not opine on matters about which they have no experience other than opinion.
Have you read Dr Stephanie Seneff research?She’s MIT research Science doesn’t matter???
She certainly has opinions about environmental factors and autism, and now vaccines, but she isn’t a medical doctor. Her area of expertise is computer science and her degrees are in computer science and electrical engineering.
I would check other sources before putting my full confidence in this woman’s opinions.
Hey Illini, stranded here in the peoples republic of IL, SW burbs,
That’s certainly a legal question for a qualified constitutional or civil rights lawyer, I would think. Down thread someone suggested pleading the fifth…sounds good for argument’ sake. I do know HIPPA laws have little to no relevancy in a public health emergency….and this emergency has not been declared “over”. They are pushing fear now with the Delta Variant.
Corporate employers and their excutive boards lead me to believe that they are ‘deep state’ (IMHO).
The right and talented lawyer, will be able to beat this…of that I am confident. Its just “when”?
In the meantime, I wear my Aggie gear proudly…it annoys them, bigly! I have a T shirt or sweat shirt for every day of the week, and one for the laundry….and I did not pay IL taxes on said gear!
Answer it as “undocumented”
Some advice here:
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/legal-and-compliance/employment-law/pages/employers-should-be-cautious-when-asking-about-vaccination-status.aspx
People can ask all kinds of questions..
People can choose to answer, or not.
Nothing new.
Had a similar privacy question months ago from employer.
No reply given.
Months later, the one asking, got a demotion – and no one said why.
…hmmm…
Others stepped up to fill the role, with privacy and the good works continue…
Imho
.p.s.
A sign in front of a store said last weekend:
Masks not required for vaccinated customers.
[ no one was at the entry door asking for a vax card…
so…]
How about “I didn’t get the vaccine because I already had the disease.”
True. But an HR department won’t understand the science behind that.
HIPPA is the answer.
And ADA:
https://www.eeoc.gov/pre-employment-inquiries-and-medical-questions-examinations
Nah. Just identified as vaccinated.
identify! sorry – haven’t consumed enough coffee yet today . . . . .
I am an attorney and I would advise anyone who is asked to disclose if they took the vaccine to decline claiming HIPPA confidentiality. If your employer takes adverse action, there are sanctions in HIPPA that would apply.
Thank you.
Y’all… if we are going to quote HIPAA, we need to abbreviate/spell it correctly.
Not being confrontational… I’ve typed “HIPPA” before. Finally realized that it was incorrect and made it look as if I didn’t know what I was talking about.
If you don’t even know that it’s HIPAA (not HIPPA), I would question your competence, even as a fictional president of a design firm. (I did enjoy that sitcom.)
This is how I understand it as well. If the employee provides a definitive answer, either a yes or a no, then the employer segregates/imposes workplace restrictions based on that answer. I agree it is therefore safest to cite HIPAA privacy laws, while declining to answer the question.
I also believe it is a violation of HIPAA privacy laws to “share” an employee’s confidential health information without prior consent. For example, Doctors must obtain consent prior to sharing health information with insurance companies and other doctors.
Wouldn’t segregation and punitive workplace restrictions based solely on vaccination status (think: scarlet letters, isolation and masks) violate HIPAA laws by identifying the employee to others, against his wishes?
“Sure. But first, let’s talk about your wife’s STD.”
ROTFL
Or whether I am up to date on my Pap smear.
Put the truthful answer and remember there are religious exemptions. My employer now has emails and flyers that address “vaccine hesitancy” – barf
Does “When hell freezes over.” count as vaccine hesitancy?
Asking for a friend.
There’s no hesitancy in FU!
Good advice. It is ALWAYS best legally to give truthful answers, and to be respectful in answering any permitted questions from an employer. There would be medical exemptions as well.
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HIPPA laws. I do not consent to provide my personal healthcare information.
I think you can “volunteer” the information if they ask but you can also decline to provide personal healthcare info.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. HIPAA isn’t a total shield. Examples:
You become injured or ill, and need either time off work, or an assignment to lighter duties. The employer can require medical exams and verification of your health status from your doctor.
Employers can require random drug tests. If you fail one, you can be required to prove having a prescription for the drugs involved. They can fire you if you refuse.
If you need any type of special access or accommodation for a disability (ADA), the employer can require proof of your limitations before complying.
If the reason the employer is asking has anything to do with their insurance, your refusal to answer can be cause for firing.
As an attorney, I would advise a client to ask “Why do you ask, Dog Puking?” If they hem and haw and don’t give you a definite “The insurance company requires it” response and show you that is true, then unload your rights guns. Employers don’t own the employee’s and will not pay if the required experimental gene therapy cripples you, renders you an idiot, or kills you. This is beyond simple questions such as ADA–By the way, Mike, ADA accommodations must be requested by the employee. Drug tests are tied to job safety. Requesting a physician’s note if missing work is to ensure you aren’t malingering. All have zippy zap to do with your taking an untested, unapproved experimental gene therapy with wide-spread and known adverse reaction history.
employer can rape your children if no one stops it and lets it become precendent.
the POINT we are trying to get people to realize is – reality is being transformed before our idea. words are redefined, vaccine use has been redefined.
covid isnt polio.
covid isnt dangerous
whats dangereous is PEOPLE TO STUPID TO REMEMBER THE china vaping issue with sap in lungs that occured prior to this covid thing.
Delivery system for unique number of cases to provide new articles of cov killing – vapes in certain location, contaminate pods – with investigtions hitting dead ends.
blamed on Vitamin E as a solvent in the vape. ok.
Ignore
Definitely get a lawyer right away. Save every communication. Have something to record any communication. The specificity is frightening as well, pushing specific for profit companies. Ask how your HIPAA rights (and many other rights) are being protected from a separate HR person but EXPECT retaliation if you do ask any questions. So if you ask questions, expect yourself to be red flagged and such so consider if you can afford to risk anything at this time.
And therefore get a lawyer immediately or at least begin the consultation process where you call around.
Also, if you do actually find a decent lawyer share your methods since pretty much everyone is in need of pushing back now with the various forms of invasion and retaliation we are seeing.
It is my understanding that an employee’s Covid-19 experimental jab status is in fact *so* confidential under HIPAA / ADA, that employers are required to keep this information entirely separate from an employee’s routine HR file.
So it seems quite a stretch that an employer could “retaliate” based on this confidential information, by ‘outing’ an employee via punitive workplace restrictions clearly seen by others.
That’s like leaving these “super-confidential” employee folders wide open in the break room. It just doesn’t add up in my book.
Maybe that’s why the snake FauXI pushes enforcement of CDC’s revised “guidelines” onto unwitting employers, by qualifying them with .. ‘as long as no federal, state or other laws are violated.’
Well, employers beware, because FauXI damn well knows that his guidelines aren’t worth the paper they are printed on.
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You could respond by asking them why they are asking. Or just don’t respond to the email.
Either way, start calling around to find a conservative employment lawyer.
My HR side-stepped this entire segregation issue by wisely opting to apply the stricter mask/distancing protocols for every single employee and visitor, regardless of vaccination status. That option is always left on the table, because it absolves the CDC and the states from assuming the liability of the other poor choices: The employer gets to choose their poison.
In other words, nothing was changed by HR in response to the new CDC guidelines. There.. Problem solved.
Nobody must ask or tell. Nobody must check papers. Nobody must get the jab.
If anybody is still required by the state to mask up, then everybody must do so.
When masks/ distancing become optional for *all* per the state and CDC, then nobody will be required to follow these protocols, although they may still be “encouraged” to do so.. Which is exactly what should have been done all along, to avoid making employers (and their insurance companies) liable for an employee’s healthcare.
What’s next? Will employees be ‘mandated’ to stop eating twinkies?
Peggy Hall at The Healthy American always has great info. https://www.thehealthyamerican.org/
And, the way out that has been provided, is: I am allergic to the serum.
https://annavonreitz.com/theyalreadytoldyou.pdf
You might also want to ask if they (your employer) really wants to be party to genocide:
https://annavonreitz.com/lawaboutvaccination.pdf
Thanks for posting fantastic link!! Going to SAVE this!
The end result of all of the ADA is that it is a disability and must be accommodated. It is up to the employer to provide the data to prove that there is a significant danger to the company. That will be hard to provide given the 99.8% survival rate. IMHO.
Does that make it ok if they “provide an alternative”? My sister is in a nursing home and already had covid (well, if you trust the tests she did). She has refused the vaccine. Therefore, even fully vaccinated family members cannot go to her room to visit her. She must be taken to the lobby for visits. We have no way to check the conditions of her room, make sure her tv and computer are working properly (and are still there!), etc.
In addition to this her disability makes it very difficult to be taken out of bed and put in a wheelchair in which she never feels comfortable. She is physically unable to adjust her body into a comfortable position like you or I might be able to do. Everyone still must wear a mask but we are able to sit close to her and give her a hug, etc. But we cannot go into her room! They have no answer when I ask why.
They do not own her. Get an attorney ASAP. I got my Dad out of an elder prison camp that DeSantis made off-limits “because. COVID-19. Or something.” Dad was living in filth! We must be able to take care of our loved ones and to ensure that the “loving staff” (barf) are actually caring for them.
And check into the state regulations on nursing homes that family members are authorized to inspect the rooms. Are you paying for this?
What if one day you were to just walk into her room? Try first with just one member, not your whole family. Then see if you can get away with this a few more times until they start seeing you in her room by habit.
They have no answer to give you, because none of this has ever made any sense. People just don’t live in gilded cages under glass domes. There is no emergency, either!
In any case, people with natural immunity should be better off, not worse off, than those who took experimental injections.
I downloaded the medicare guidelines for visitation as of March 2021 and I see a lot of places where we can make a good argument against limiting our visits to the lobby. My family is going to talk to the admin with this information.
Speak to the admin if you must, but the admin will prolly dig her heels in. I’d just walk into her room and keep the admin out of it if you can. One person from your family in the room.Be low keyed. Stay under the radar. Don’t cause a ruckus. If you can.
It all crumbles under scrutiny, but the CDC is banking on the fact that they won’t be challenged. Look what they already got away with!
The federal government has been playing a game of word salad, saying that part of the government doesn’t forbid business from doing this. America’s Frontline Doctors has some information that may be helpful to you, check out the Vaccine Public Letter on this page: https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/legal/vaccines-the-law/. It does, IMHO, violate some laws, and leaves your employer open to liability. Here is another approach. There is no database of those who have been vaccinated. The paper cards you get when you are vaccinated are largely for your benefit. You can find the PDF of the blank CDC vaccination cards online. You can also find many examples of filled out cards on twitter and instagram. Do what you will with that information.
There should definitely be a database to track people who volunteered for experimental injections. These are experimental trials. The patients are supposed to be followed and studied for a period of time specified by the drug manufacturers.
Some studies end in 2022, others in 2023. These studies should be a period of two years AT MINIMUM. The vaccines themselves are tracked by batch, as well. If patients report side effects they need to refer back to the batch.
Check out Dr.Stephanie Seneff MIT research at StephanieSeneff.net
This “doctor” is definitely a PHd, but is not a medical doctor. Her training is electrical engineering and computer science. I would suggest looking at alternate opinions. She has also gone after Lipitor and Glyphosate. Regardless of how you feel about those two things, she doesn’t have the scientific expertise to be used as an authority.
Don’t believe me – do your own hunting on the internet.
Dr. Mercola just did an interview with Dr. Seneff and Dr. Mikovitz on their recently published paper:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2021/06/13/covid-19-vaccines-causing-damage.aspx
In this interview, Stephanie Seneff, Ph.D., and Judy Mikovits, Ph.D., a dream-team in terms of deep insights into the scientific details, explain the problems they see with gene-based COVID-19 vaccines. There is a load of highly useful technical information that you can use to defend your opposition to these dangerous vaccines.
However, unless you have deeply studied molecular biology and genetics, it would be wise to view the video two or three times, as with each review, you will learn more and understand just how dangerous these vaccines are. I recently interviewed Seneff about the excellent paper1 she published on this topic. That interview was featured in “COVID Vaccines May Bring Avalanche of Neurological Disease.”
In May 2020, I also interviewed Mikovits about the possibility of these vaccines causing reproductive harm and other health problems. At the time, Mikovits warned that fertility rates may drop thanks to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein creating antibodies that attack syncytium, and indeed, we’re now starting to see that.
None of these three people are respected scientists. I suggest you do a bit of research about them.
Dr. Mercola is an anti-vaxxer.
Stephanie Seneff is a long-time anti-vaxxer. She is a laughing stock among real scientists. Please don’t take what she says as true. She doesn’t have any training or background in this field. Her field of expertise is artificial intelligence, and her field of study are electrical engineering and computer science.
Judy Mikovits is another discredited anti-vaxxer. Her internet video Plandemic, made claims that are either false, or not based on scientific evidence. I’m no fan of Fauci, but I don’t think that her scientific beliefs are any better.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/fact-checking-judy-mikovits-controversial-virologist-attacking-anthony-fauci-viral
I’m an anti-vaxxer and have done my own research for many, many years and have read countless books.
So we aren’t allowed to post anything from anti-vaxxers here? Dr. Sherry Tenpenny is also an anti-vaxxer. So we can’t post her here either? Are we allowed to even post here if we ourselves are anti-vaxxers?
I’ve followed Dr. Mercola for years. His information actually saved my mother from unnecessary surgery that was recommended by corrupt big-pharma controlled doctors. I consider him to be an excellent source of medical information and have learned a lot from him. So, if Dr. Mercola considers their paper to have important information, then I take that seriously.
And as far as being an anti-vaxxer, I’ve also read Dr. Suzanne Humphries book “Dissolving Illusions” which basically exposes the fact that everything we have been told about vaccines is a lie. Dr. Suzanne Humphries was a hospital nephrologist who became suspicious of vaccines when one too many of her patients came to her with kidney failure and said “everything was fine until the flu shot.” Dr. Humphries says that doctors aren’t taught anything about vaccines other than that they are good and to give them. So, Dr. Humphries left her job to research vaccines (how they are made, what goes in them, etc.) and immunology. She also looked at the historical records and data, and she came to the conclusion that everything we have been told about vaccines is a lie. She says most of the childhood illnesses were on there way out, long before vaccines were implemented. And she notes that the world’s leading expert on smallpox, Dr. Thomas Mack says that vaccines had nothing to do with the eradication of smallpox and that it was economic development that was responsible.
Some people are so sold on vaccines that they are blind and deaf to any contrary information. The whole term “anti-vaxxer” is used as a pejorative. I prefer “vaccine skeptic”. Most pro-vaxxers know little or nothing about our natural, God given immune system and have been convinced through years of conditioning that they need a vaccine shot for everything. Look at the growth of the CDC’s recommended vaccine list in the last 30 years. That ALONE should tell people something.
Yes, I think things really changed in 1986 when big-pharma became immune from liability for the vaccines. Then vaccines became a guaranteed money-maker because they knew they could never get sued. And then the vaccine schedule for the kids continued to grow over the years. I actually think the corruption started in the early 1900s when the Rockefellers took over medical education and shut down alternative medicine schools (James Corbett has an excellent documentary on this). Thanks for our corrupt media, big-pharma has gotten everyone almost brainwashed about health and medicine, so much so that they think health comes from a drug or injection and they don’t understand that our immune systems are designed to protect us and that there are natural remedies and nutrients that treat a variety of health conditions.
Vaccines are not big money makes for the pharmaceutical companies. They make their profits in other areas.
It is estimated that the total worldwide vaccine market is around US$40 billion. That’s a huge number, sure. But let’s be honest, it’s only 3.3% of the total medical market. In the parlance of corporate finance, that’s “rounding error.”
And some people are – to put it kindly – “misled”. Perhaps you are one of those people.
I recommend that people work with their doctors to decide what is the most intelligent course of action is for themselves and their children.
If you weren’t allowed to post, your comment would have been deleted. On the other hand, I am allowed to point out your errors, and I will do so.
What I said about the persons you laud as experts is true. They are charlatans. If you had done all of the research that you claim, then you would already know this.
If you want to publicly demonstrate your ignorance, then go for it. Here is an alternative to Suzanne Humphries. Measles is indeed a dangerous disease. My own nephew contracted measles-related encephalitis and suffered permanent damage to his eyesight. Believe what you like, but don’t expect to be unchallenged.
https://medium.com/@visualvaccines/why-dr-suzanne-humphries-an-anti-vaccine-activist-is-lying-to-you-about-measles-ce446d0a7e0f
Mikovits has only been discredited by Fauci. The FBI arrested her and never charged her. I do not know about the others. She is a scientist contrary to your claim.
Not sure about Mercola being anti-Vax, and if so, what’s wrong with that?
Don’t know anything about Seneff. Lack of training or background can be overcome with personal effort in intensive research to become a subject matter specialist in any given area if you have the smarts. People through the centuries have proven this to be true.
Americasfrontlinedoctors.org
There is a form letter you can print out for your employer.
Looks like a clear HIPPA violation to me.
American Disabilities Act (ADA) accommodation for an allergy that your doctor has recommended you do not take the Vax because it will injure you. An employer will not touch this with a ten foot pole. Ask for an accommodation. A lawyer in a previous comment said the accommodation must be requested by the employee.
I have seen employer emails stating that the employer is NOT forbidden by HIPPA to make inquiries or require the answer to such questions. As the employer owns the medical insurance policy of the employee, it makes sense that the employer is at least vested in the employee’s health records TO A DEGREE.
In any event, it’s one thing to trade information, it’s another to mandate medical procedures, experimental ones at that. Since your option is comply or be out of compliance, probably wise to comply and see where things go. If they go the extra mile and mandate the EUA vaccine–by definition a “potential danger and hopefully less dangerous than the disease”–then you are at your decision point, but by then your decision would be to remain on staff until they fire you without cause.
There’s something fishy about all of this.
The EUA came into existence to allow use while bypassing full testing regimen because the now-known therapeutics were suppressed in an organized fashion. If the pandemic is a Black Plague, then it’s all Russian roulette all over the place, vaccine or no vaccine. In such a case, what the hell good is an EUA or consent; it’s triage and bodies are dropping like flies. What point is a Constitution if the courts are closed due to lack of living personnel to staff them? See the horrible visual? That’s a bad day.
We are a light year away from such a scenario. Meaning, the Law is tight on this topic, and the lawyers are fighting tooth and nail to get this stuff jammed into every arm.
Why fight a legal battle to the nth degree in the face of this virus? My sense is because there will be a “day after” in which the virus will be found to be 1) engineered, 2) effectively countered with therapeutics. People will be very angry when that information arrives on their doorsteps. The protection of the perps rests entirely in the courts where they will point to a string of judicial decisions granting every step of the response of dealing with the outbreak.
So, in short, if you’re dealing with a pandemic in the courts, it’s by definition a limited risk health event. Were it not limited, then the army would be out holding people down while corpsmen stuck needles in their arms. After all, why not? If it’s vital, it’s supra-constitutional, then no one has rights to administer nor to reject administration. We are not there.
QUICKLY SEND YOUR RESUME TO A GUB. AGENCY AS THEIR EMPLOYEES DO N O T NEED THE JAB, NOR WILL THEY BE
ASKED ABOUT IT. !
Best of luck.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/u-s-government-workers-can-return-offices-without-covid-vaccine-n1270355
So we take a slightly different tack to this. We do not lie, nor do we divulge. We answer: “I am fully vaccinated.”
Which is a true statement. No, we have not taken the experimental shots. Nor will we.
If pressed, we simply repeat that phrase. If someone were to press for details, HIPPA and state law preclude it and we ask to see their exemption to those laws.
Of course we moved to a red state where vaccine passports are illegal for this and many other reasons.
However, your recourse is expensive and long even if they discriminate against you. Speaking from experience, not legal advice. That’s assuming you win. They’d probably offer you your job back if they thought they’d lose and then make your life hell.
I feel for you. I work with intelligent, kind, educated people that are also deluded lunatic idiots. Reason 42 we fled the Blue.
Log on to American front line doctors. They have legal resources available and legal and advise on this topic. This emergency use authorization synthetic genetic material injection should not be required and it should be legal recourse to your employer if they try. Once this formal FDA approval we may have a different matter.
A guy at my husband’s job lied and said yes. When all the vaccinated employees were asked to present their cards as they had taken the vaccine voluntarily and this would help for the next step of what to do for those who will be employed and have not taken the vaccine or refused to, the coworker did not have one.
He was fired for lying.
Drag your feet.
Then when you get pushed in a month, tell them you’re waiting to discuss with your doctor. Then when you get pushed later, say he’s been on vacay. Just drag your feet. Like employers do.
If Nancy Pelosi tells a journalist that she is requiring mask mandates still because members of Congress are not required to answer/disclose about their vaccine status….then I would conclude what is true for Congress is also true for us little people and would respond in kind. She used the HIPPA laws as her reason. Those same HIPPA laws brought to you courtesy of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Any further discussion would be with my attorney.
While I am waiting for that one to be approved, here is part 2 on the #2 Searcch result:
This should make you sleep well at night.
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it! FEDERALLY FUNDED!
https://www.mitre.org/about/corporate-overview
That’s you by the way. Your wallet is paying for you to be censored by your gubt and their peons.
Wow this will lead to censorship by mathematical calculations based on number of clicks (up-down-none) and number of reports reports submitted by type, run through quality bias filters.
Of course it still circles back to the approved “fact checkers” to QC the inputs and analysis. The mathematical calculations will use bias filters based on fact check filters for specific cites….and so on. It sounds complicated but a good systems analyst can assemble the math rather easily and efficiently.
This will further stream line the censoring process and make it near real time via math and biased statistics. It will also “mark” inputs for investigation by DHS as being from a potential domestic terrorist or election fraud perpetrator.
The Uniparty is at it again. The new narrative appears to be that citizens that are trying to take back the GOP from the swamp are all Q conspirators.
https://www.mediamatters.org/qanon-conspiracy-theory/qanon-influencers-want-their-followers-infiltrate-republican-precinct
Mainstream media is the ” conspiracy theory ”
It appears all hopes of narrative containment have been lost.
Luntz and Kev, made and ate hash brownies and had their flashlights under the covers and thought up with this new narrative into the wee hours of the morning. Wamp Wamp….Goodbye Kev, hello New GOP, America First Patriots..
Yes, Sundance did an article on it yesterday.
Keep in mind that the GOPe wing of the Republican Party (aka the Uni-Party) under McConnell helped suppress and demonize the Tea Party and remove President Trump.
Roll back the clock to 2010 and substitute “Q” for “Tea Party” in the coming pogrom announced by DHS last night.
And McConnell is gearing up to do the same to MAGA –
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/senate-mitch-mcconnell-leader-primaries/2021/06/14/id/1025017/
Also – remember how many times the Dem leadership, Pelosi and Obama and Biden announced to our face that the illegal aliens were more American they we. We are to be replaced with compliant foreigners.
makes sense now eh?
It’s been almost 20 years since Lee Harris wrote his brilliant essay “Al Qaeda’s Fantasy Ideology”.
I’ve been re-reading it because our Deep State Syndicate has swallowed the Kool-Aid. Mr. Harris could rewrite it today as “The FBI’s QAnon/White Supremacist Fantasy Ideology”.
“A fantasy ideology is one that seizes the opportunity offered by such a lack of realism in a political group and makes the most of it. This it is able to do through symbols and rituals, all of which are designed to permit the members of the political group to indulge in a kind of fantasy role-playing. Classic examples of this are easy to find: the Jacobin fantasy of reviving the Roman Republic, Mussolini’s fantasy of reviving the Roman Empire, Hitler’s fantasy of reviving German paganism in the thousand-year Reich.”
Or a moral and mental retard like Puppet Joe enacting a Great Reset for his puppet-masters Obama and Xi.
Our own Occupation Government has assumed Al Qaeda’s goal of destroying America.
Rest in the Vine: “Al Qaeda’s Fantasy Ideology” by Lee Harris
That was a worthy read in full.
So many parallels to what is really going on in our world now.
Fighting an ideological epidemic
“Okay, and?” Even if this were true, the Q-anons are still The People, the swamp is not. Even if the Believers of the Flying Purple People Eater were to try to take back the GOP and run a statue for president, they’d have more right to the party than the Swamp does.
Day 147 – and Democrats are still overjoyed that the criminal dementia patient has his sniffing fingers on the nuclear football. These are not people that can be reasoned with in any way, under any circumstances.
I have never met a happy Democrat.
If you’re talking about fictional news peddlers and their reports I urge you to consider the last time they told the truth. And paid twitter sitters are in that boat too.
The main conspirator to deprive PDJT of his presidency while in office was Mitch McConnell.
ALL so-called Republicans are so TERRIFIED of the left (Dems, media, tech, Deep State) they will not challenge the fraudulent election results.
A “second place” at the feed trough of corruption is better than no place at all.
It’s a dance. They get paid either way, from all sides. Grifters gonna’ grift.
But on the positive side, the turtle kept Merrick Garland off the Supreme Court.
Too bad he wasn’t into repealing Obamacare as much or any other agenda that propelled PDJT into the White House ?♂️
Killing Scalia was a bridge too far even for Mitch. I suspect that’s why Obama didn’t raise hell when Mitch blocked the nomination.
What’s really shocking is that Justice Scalia didn’t commit suicide like everyone else they get rid of????
Wonder what the revised machine algorithms look like as well as the number of “mail-in and drop box” votes needed. That is interesting the value of those likes to the demo-commies and Big Tech..
And “organically” the top reply when you view the tweet is “No, thanks” from someone who’s title/intro/heading (I don’t use Twitter, so I don’t know what to call it) describes herself as “Ivy League MBA. Still resisting ignorance and hate.”
I really believe we’re in the Matrix. Everything is fabricated. The UniParty, the GOPe “outrage” and “opposition”, the newest “fads”, everything!!
The “silent majority” is silent no longer… because they view and like a tweet?
Good luck with that
That’s a pic of Sheriff Lamb from Pinal County, where we live. I’ve had several conversations with him, and he is…”as advertised”….That’s the way he looks every day. A REAL man….unlike that soros inspired sheriff ass%$^& in maricopa county.
Had to share this one. My husband was in line at the grocery store yesterday and there was a 10-year-old girl with her dad behind him. She was looking at the magazines and pointed to the Time magazine with Kamala on the front. She then asked her dad while pointing at the magazine, “Daddy, is that lady going to be our next President?” He answered, “Oh, sweetheart, I sure hope not.” My husband couldn’t control himself and started laughing. He then said, “I sure agree with you!”
It would be a shame if the first female president were installed by fraud, tyranny and deceit. Especially a mental case.
Par for the course, that’s how we got our first Black pResident.
I believe what you meant to say was that Kamala would become the first female presidential usurper, given that she is not a natural born citizen. Taking power by fraud, tyranny, and deceit makes it even worse.
https://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2020/07/23/u-s-senator-kamala-harris-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen-of-usa-not-eligible-to-be-president-and-cinc-or-vp/
Kamala is aware that she’s unpopular. That might be one of the reasons she’s always nervous. That, and she’s incompetent.
I believe her and Biden were an after thought. If we look back, we can probably see who they were trying make their next Obama but couldn’t quite make it happen.
Look at their roster of candidates in the primary. There wasn’t a single one capable of being president, nor winning the election.
I know. I said that long ago, when they rolled them oll out.
This is your bench?
This is the best you had after what seems like 4 years of whining?
Wimps. All of them.
Yes, but if they were going to steal the election why did that matter?
At least we could have someone that doesn’t have mush for brains stumbling about.
The only theory that makes sense is that Obama via his criminal syndicate is actually running the country.
In which case a pResident with mush for brains is not bug but a feature.
They did not put a good candidate up because they did not expect to win. Then Covid and they went into fraud overdrive to take it away form Trump. They used the two easiest rubes to manipulate that were available- Biden and Harris. Then Biden almost gave the game away by publicly stating he had the biggest voter fraud organization in history.
Now we know that was the only true thing he has said in 47 plus years!
Kamala is extremely emotionally insecure as are most sociopath bullies of her type. One of her bigger fears is being exposed for what she really is and of course with her position she is going to be.
There is no there, “there” with Kamala. She is as phony as it gets and she knows people know it. Kamala is every bit a disaster as Joe Biden. The two of them are nothing and can be nothing but nothing in terms of anything having to do with anything.
The Country is being run by Oligarchs and Social Engineers. The accomplices are the criminal crooks; Congress, Senate, Judges, “Deep State”.
It was SO hilarious. That makes me wonder if Breit-drudge has been crooked longer than I realized.
YEARS before she was on the radar, Breitbart was pumping her up as the next Obama.
Anyway, clearly she was a massive fail so they just went with full on nuclear level of fraud, bribery “cabals,” disrupting social media communication and other stuff.
Don’t get me wrong, they had to use that for Obama too. But not to the level of 1% Kamal
I think Harris was slated to be the next Obama – he basically endorsed her when she was still a California AG.
But all their rising stars crashed and augered in during the primaries so they trotted out Joe and kicked the fraud into high gear.
They tried to make Beto and Pocahontas happen too, but they embarrassed themselves early on and were removed from the running. I bet President Trump had a lot to do with that. He didn’t let them get away with anything.
and Mayor Pete.
The only one that would have stood a chance in an honest election was Sanders or Gabbard. DNC couldn’t have either of them win though.
LOL … as I was reading this comment it already had a 10 “like” jump.
Thank you. We were still giggling about it last night.
Air Force Vet Reality Winner Freed from Prison After 4 Years, Attorney Says
14 Jun 2021
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/06/14/air-force-vet-reality-winner-freed-prison-after-4-years-attorney-says.html
In 2018, Winner was found guilty of violating the 1917 U.S. Espionage Act and sentenced to more than five years in prison. She was convicted of sending classified NSA information on Russia’s alleged efforts to undermine the 2016 election — a topic that dominated national discourse and brought to light the challenges of safeguarding the voting process — to The Intercept website.
That led me to this which I had not known about:
TOP-SECRET NSA REPORT DETAILS RUSSIAN HACKING EFFORT DAYS BEFORE 2016 ELECTION
A top-secret National Security Agency report details a months-long Russian hacking effort against the U.S. election infrastructure.
5 Jun 2017
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/05/top-secret-nsa-report-details-russian-hacking-effort-days-before-2016-election/
Excerpts:
But in order to dupe the local officials, the hackers needed access to an election software vendor’s internal systems to put together a convincing disguise. So on August 24, 2016, the Russian hackers sent spoofed emails purporting to be from Google to employees of an unnamed U.S. election software company, according to the NSA report. Although the document does not directly identify the company in question, it contains references to a product made by VR Systems, a Florida-based vendor of electronic voting services and equipment whose products are used in eight states.
According to its website, VR Systems has contracts in eight states: California, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, New York, North Carolina, Virginia, and West Virginia.
The spear-phishing email contained a link directing the employees to a malicious, faux-Google website that would request their login credentials and then hand them over to the hackers. The NSA identified seven “potential victims” at the company. While malicious emails targeting three of the potential victims were rejected by an email server, at least one of the employee accounts was likely compromised, the agency concluded. The NSA notes in its report that it is “unknown whether the aforementioned spear-phishing deployment successfully compromised all the intended victims, and what potential data from the victim could have been exfiltrated.”
Halderman told The Intercept. “I would worry about whether an attacker who could compromise the poll book vendor might be able to use software updates that the vendor distributes to also infect the election management system that programs the voting machines themselves,” he added. “Once you do that, you can cause the voting machine to create fraudulent counts.”
VR Systems declined to respond to a request for comment on the specific hacking operation outlined in the NSA document.
Were these Russian voting machine CheatWare hackers from Beijing, Langley or the Pentagon? Getting pretty hard to tell the difference.
Reality Winner was just an enthusiastic amateur trying to damage the True President. She paid the price, while the real professional criminal leakers like Brennan, Comey and Weissman walked free.
I have a suspicion that the reason this person went to jail was she gave the ID of the real hackers to the Russians. and was not the Russians.
Oops.
Nah, if you read the article, because The Intercept inquired with the NSA in some way which allowed the NSA to easily determine who had leaked the info, she was easily caught and anyone leaking TS data will go to jail… unless they are Hillary Clinton or anyone with the same corrupt globalist ideology.
Didn’t she like to wear the files in her pantyhose?
California and New York begin the rollout of Vaccine Passports
Newsom: It’s not a passport 🙂
New York is offering an “Excelsior Pass” — an electronic proof of vaccination developed by IBM — that some businesses in the state are requiring for entry. The New York Times reported that the state plans to expand the program going forward, with the state possibly using the system to verify a resident’s age, driver’s license status and other health records
https://archive.is/JH40m
New York state’s three-year contract with IBM — obtained by an advocacy group and shared with The New York Times — to develop and run the pass establishes the groundwork for a future where at least 10 million people in the state would have an Excelsior Pass. It would provide them with a QR code that would not only verify their vaccination status but could also include other personal details like proof of age, driver’s license and other health records.
…and just like in 2018, there will be swap out replacements of current Driver’s License or State ID for this pass. ALL linked to the Federal Government.
By the way, IBM has a major in country business Partner in China Inc. The provide the integrated computing muscle behind the good citizenship report card developed by US Big Tech for China Inc. and about to be deployed in some EU nations as well as other Western nations.
Well, except for illegal aliens, they automatically get a ‘Excelsior pass’ because, well, ya know….it would be racist to ask questions or ask for documents or something.
How about these passes list political affiliations? Pronouns? Oh.. I know! IQ.. As in: “NO dumba$$es past this point.”
But then they wouldn’t need to list IQ, since anyone who carries this card is already presumed to *not* be the sharpest tool in the shed.
Regardless of thoughts on vaccine passports, here is another database that will collect all the ingredients for identity theft, be government required, and then inevitably hacked so all your info is in the dark web or China.
My info required by government employment has been hacked by China a minimum of two times, and it is quite the extensive identity theft kit.
Great!
They can add in citizenship status and use it as ID for those too poor or stupid to get a state issued ID on their own to vote.
Didn’t IBM work for the Nazis in the 30s and 40s too? Asking for a friend ……
The 30’s. The Nazis used IBM developed punch-card technology for their census which was designed to identify Jews and other “undesirables”. After Kristallnacht IBM began to disinvest themselves from Germany. The head of their German subsidiary was a full-on Nazi though.
It’s not a story unique to IBM. Most other US companies at the time with German subsidiaries have a similar history.
Today’s message from Dutch Sheets, “Operation Release the Roar.” It’s time.
I want our POTUS back in office. The one we elected, not the one the globalists cheated to put into office. I want patriots in the military, judiciary, law enforcement agencies, and halls of Congress who will administer the laws as written. To do that means the 2020 election must be overturned and the rightful winners installed in all offices. I want recognition that there are other peoples of this world who want Americans dead or enslaved who participated in this and many other on-going travesties. I want recognition that many Americans in power participated with them.
As a result I want America to follow one guiding principle and that is to return to its roots and first love – God. What follows after that will be good for America and bad for the enemies of God and His people.
More specifics available upon request. Differences of opinion accepted if using the above as the process. For example, I believe all traitors and seditionists should be executed by a firing squad after conviction. You may think they should be hung in the public square until dead or serve lifetime sentences in Gitmo. We can agree to disagree on those type beliefs. However, we cannot have differences on the need for permanent, painful consequences of convictions. We cannot have differences that judges should be subject to losing their roles permanently for not following the law as written. Should the judges knowingly act in collusion with traitors and seditionists they should be subject to the same penalties. We need to agree on that. God hates corruption and lies in all forms. It’s in His Word.
Apply that one principle to all things American. Start today.
While I agree with all of your points, I wish we could use different language.
I don’t want the election “overturned”; I want it corrected. I want the fraud exposed and removed.
Just mention this because I know the lying liars use these quotes to further their false narratives, i.e., “voter suppression” as opposed to “election integrity.” I like to correct it every time I see it.
If you are white or asian you cannot apply for this job:
https://morganstanley.tal.net/vx/mobile-0/brand-0/candidate/so/pm/1/pl/1/opp/11335-2022-Investment-Banking-Sophomore-Summer-Analyst-Program-United-States/en-GB
Michael Burry blasts Morgan Stanley:
https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1404557582174330883
How exactly is Morgan Stanley going to verify that a candidate is LGBTQ+? If some guy shows up at the interview wearing a pair of heels, will that qualify? Or, are they going to ask him to kiss another guy or perform a homosexual act to prove it? Or, will they simply take the interviewee’s word for it?
Identify as 1/1024 Native American. Works for Harvard and the US Senate.
Or identify as a 1/1024 natural born citizen and become the president or the vice president.
I don’t know the ins and outs of labor law, but isn’t that straight up illegal?
“Technically”, yes it is illegal and one would think reinforced by the recent judgement against Sock Puppet Biden’s administration for trying to deploy “racially targeted” loans and grants.
However, good luck finding a judge who will support the law vs fulfilling a racially defined “staff quota”. The DoJ has put in place a Court supported “statistical racism” memo that requires zero proof of intent to discriminate, feasibility or qualifications, just show the statistical composition.
The courts seem to differentiate between “staff quotas” and “money” at this time and depending on which court the suit is filed.
I once heard a very famous person say they hired an “expert” who on every question LITERALLY always had a negative answer.
They fired the guy as soon as they realized his pattern.
And then WOW did their project take off like gang busters without THAT guy.
There are a million ways to fight FOR justice and I’d suggest everyone ignore the eternally negative nattering naybob here who ALWAYS finds an answer that as LUCK would have it depresses, demoralizes, discourages, dampens and tries to get ya to quit before ya start.
The anwer to everything he writes, “How to go in looking for ways to lose.”
Suppression trollery at its losery-ist.
Yep and Ostriches often find themselves being basted on the BBQ.
You have to fight or you literally can’t see what works and what doesn’t. You don’t just give in in advance.
Your idea? Submit.
No thankee Comrade.
Exactly, the only people who think racism is front and center are the one’s who watch the news every night. I would have no idea what the “problems” of the day are except for everyone’s posts. I love skimming the comments to get a feel for what the headlines are but generally go about my day without regard for what the news says I should be concerned about.
We need a generation of disrupters.
I love watching Enes’ videos – “mega mansion” house tours. The back story about him in this interview is pretty incredible. He didn’t need Morgan Stanley’s Black/LGBTQ whatever racist help. Hard work, passion and making a quality product took him to the top. A former World Champion Windsurfer (striving to be the best is a quality not an outcome) to “YouTuber” with nearly 1 million subscribers touring the most expensive homes – oh yeah, he’s an immigrant and English-as-a second language person. No one handed him anything.
Yes. The fake doc zero is exactly that.
The real doc zero is this guy who has written online as doc zero for over a decade.
I don’t need “good luck finding a judge who will support the law vs fulfilling a racially defined ‘staff quota’ “, I just need lot’s of money, a family connection, blackmail information, or publicly accuse the judge of being a Trump follower–easy peasy!
It’s more specific than just white or Asian, it appears to exclude straight, white and Asian males.
They state,
“This program is an integral part of our diversity recruiting efforts helping to attract Black, Hispanic, Native American, Female and/or LGBTQ college sophomores.”
It looks like they’ll take white or Asian females or gay males.
–” …and or LGBTQ college sophomores.” —
Wait…..didn’t the FBI just designate Q as ‘domestic terrorists’? <smiles>
Video at link:
Jon Stewart Hijacks Colbert Show With Lab-Leak Rant, Liberal Twitter Explodes
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jon-stewart-hijacks-colbert-show-lab-leak-rant-liberal-twitter-explodes
“I think we owe a great debt of gratitude to science. Science has, in many ways, helped ease the suffering of this pandemic, which was more than likely caused by science,” Stewart said after Colbert asked how he was feeling about the scientific response to COVID-19.
“Do you mean perhaps there’s a chance that this was created in a lab?” asked Colbert, adding “There’s an investigation.”
“A chance?” shot back Stewart – kicking the door open.
“Oh my god, there’s a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China, what do we do? Oh, you know who we could ask? The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab. The disease is the same name as the lab. That’s just a little too weird, don’t you think? And then they asked those scientists – they’re like ‘how did this… so wait a minute, you work at the Wuhan respiratory coronavirus lab. How did this happen?’ and they’re like ‘mmmm – a pangolin kissed a turtle?’ and you’re like ‘no… the name of your lab! If you look at the name! Can I… let me see your business card. Show me your business card. Oh – I work at the coronavirus lab in Wuhan. Oh, cause there’s a coronavirus loose in Wuhan. How did that happen?’
‘Maybe a bat… flew into the Cloaca of a turkey and… then it sneezed into my chili. And now we all have Coronavirus.”
Stewart landed one final joke as Colbert desperately tried to control the situation;
“HOLD IT, HOLD IT! What about this, what about this… listen to this! ‘OH MY GOD, there’s been an outbreak of chocolately goodness near Hershey, Pennsylvania. What do you think happened?’
‘Oh I don’t know, maybe a steam shovel mated with a cocoa bean?’
“Or… it’s the f***ing chocolate factory! Maybe that’s it!” Stewart screamed.
That exchange was 100% SCRIPTED. Both Colbert and Stewart are avowed far leftists, socialists and useful tools of the powers to be. Any shock or feigned outrage is manufactured by Twitter trolls for appearance purposes.
Yeah, it looked scripted (/sarc). Go away.
Retweeted by Sundance:
So what? His opinion. Others, including me, don’t buy that. It appeared be totally stream of consciousness from Stewart.
And, BTW, his “no pandemic” claim in that tweet is a mischaracterization of the sequence and also a mischaracterization of the left’s continuing position that IN NO WAY is the pandemic over.
Because you basically ridiculed the previous poster and told him to “go away” because your OPINION differed from his.
SCUBA MIKE gets it. Winston does not.
Oh sorry Winston, I didn’t realize you were a regular partaker of Colbert’s show. THAT explains a great deal.
This may help you understand a little better.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/06/15/its-called-cultural-marxism-for-a-reason/
Roger Waters Tells “Little Pr**k” Zuckerberg To “F**k Off” Following Request To Use Iconic Pink Floyd Song For Ad
15 Jun 2021
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-roger-waters-tells-little-prick-zuckerberg-fk-following-request-use-iconic-pink
Pink Floyd song writer Roger Waters slammed Mark Zuckerberg during a press conference recently, announcing that the Facebook owner had offered a “huge, huge amount of money” to use the iconic song Another Brick In The Wall Part II in an advert for Instagram.
Speaking at an event to raise awareness about imprisoned WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, Waters noted the deep deep irony of Facebook wanting to buy and use a song that rails against ‘thought control’ and mindless conformity.
Waters described the development as part of Zuckerberg’s “insidious movement… to take over absolutely everything.”
Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg builds six-foot wall around Hawaii retreat on island of Kauai
| Daily Mail Online
But I thought walls were bad and xenophobic! /s
Imagine not allowing every random stranger on the planet to walk in, uninvited!
Just when I get out …they pull me back in.
Waters is an ass…..but apparently even an ass can be right from time to time.
Interesting stuff! It seems that more and more states are now looking at Arizona as the standard for future audits.
Darren Beattie has a great article out today highlighting the “unspoken” connection between FBI plants into the militias and the connection with the 1/6 Capitol event. Potentially pointing the finger of them instigating it for entrapment.
Sounds so familiar…doesn’t it. Create the narrative you’re trying to push.
Would recommend a read on his site – Revolver News.
The FBI didn’t want ALL the good agent provocateur-jobs to go to ANTIFA.
Unindicted Co-Conspirators in 1/6 Cases Raise Disturbing Questions of Federal Foreknowledge
– Revolver
“If it turns out that an extraordinary percentage of the members of these groups involved in planning and executing the Capitol Siege were federal informants or undercover operatives, the implications would be nothing short of staggering.”
I would not doubt it in the least.
Anyone remember the bikers that attacked an Asian family (the Lien’s) in their SUV in NY back in 2013?
Bikers terrorize family in high-speed chase:
https://nypost.com/2013/09/30/bikers-attack-suv-after-driver-rams-riders/
Turned out that one of the main instigators was an undercover police officer (Wojciech Braszczok):
Ex-NYPD undercover cop gets 2 years in bikers’ attack on SUV driver:
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/06/us/new-york-bikers-attack-officer-sentenced/index.html
Proves that the “powers that be” are capable of such things.
Gives new meaning to the term “agent provocateur.”
Also the murder of 1960/ civil rights worker Viola Liuzzo … and possibly that God-Awful Birmingham church bombing where all the little girls were murdered?
Disgust doesn’t describe the feeling
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300184136/informant
The worst Insurrection in our history! Our Democracy is at risk! Right, Mr Wray?
He’s so full of it.
I think you have operation underway to unseal indictments done during Trumps term.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edar/pr/operation-ceasefire-results-over-60-arrests
Getting out of California:
https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1404799290581606412
The media/entertainment “business” is a loss making enterprise geared toward shaping society and politics to the left. It has been that way forever but the extremity of their behavior has grown so bizarre that they have driven away half or more of their audience. That instantly means an audience at least as big exists for alternatives.
It takes money and risk to start up alternatives but that could be mediated IF a real opposition party were available to help drive this audience towards these alternatives. It really is a tragedy that the GOP serves as a block to prevent this from happening.
Since July of 2017, Nickelodeon’s viewership has dropped from 1.3 million average viewers per week to a June of 2021 average of only 372,000….
….Nickelodeon’s latest fiasco was a Pride Month video that you can see above. Featuring a drag queen singing to prepubescents, the YouTube version was downvoted to such a degree that they’ve now hidden the ratio.
You can only “shape” people if there are viewers. A “loss making” enterprise has no influence, period.
Not just the audience, Hanbun, but many actors as well.
There are a good many actors leaving Hollywood to protect themselves, and some – especially the gay ones – are coming out of the closet as conservatives. As conservatives, they find themselves for the first time in their lives unconditionally welcomed with the open arms of Christian Love. One might imagine the culture shock.
There are too many examples to list. Brandon Straka may have been the first, but the parade behind Brandon is yuge and endless.
Hahahahaha! Bannon now tearing Dung Zhou Mitch a new anal exhaust port. Love it!
In his rant, Bannon never made the connection. Mitch will do anything that keeps PDJT from office. If that means focusing on the IRS leak and dismissing the situation on the border or the stolen election, so be it.
They are not Barry’s enemy. And it’s his 4th term as Biden’s Brain.
never presume idiocy where there is intention and a plan.
A wake up call for all Americans
North Korea Defector Lashes Out at ‘Woke’ Schools: ‘Even North Korea is Not This Nuts’
“Columbia told us [what] we can’t talk about and I am so concerned if America is not free, I think there is no place else left that is free”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/06/north-korea-defector-lashes-out-at-woke-schools-even-north-korea-is-not-this-nuts/
감사합니다
Keep in mind as the demo-commies tear apart the military with indoctrination and internal investigations … the largest domestically deployed forces in the US trained in urban operations, police functions and essentially the ability to execute all aspects of The Military Stability and Support to Civil Authority Mission set include:
BLM-ANTIFA controlled by the Puppet Masters and demo-commies (allot of ex-vets augmented by “loyal” SoF and FBI)
ALL the non-DoD armed elements of the US Government Executive Branch, controlled by the Puppet Masters and Demo-Commies
900,000 local law enforcement officers, control divided and loyalty being assessed
Further, during the Obama regime training within the DoD branches “pivoted” to COIN for SoF and Conventional for all the others. Also, the Number of actual Combat Units was nearly halved, 2009-2016. For over 20 years, the AFORGEN process purposely kept Active CONUS based Forces at very low readiness levels. Now, the National Guard Units in each state are also being assessed for loyalty and will be selectively Federally Funded, Trained and Equipped to ready levels accordingly.
Hunter Biden’s artwork is actually good and will be worth a lot, experts sayhttps://nypost.com/2021/06/15/hunter-bidens-artwork-is-actually-good-experts-say/
…“I think it’s pretty strong — I like it,’’ Mark Tribe, chairman of the MFA Fine Arts Department at New York City’s School of Visual Arts, told The Post.
“The colors and compelling organic forms — it’s the kind of organic abstraction that I find easy on the eyes and provokes your curiosity,’’ Tribe said of the mixed-media paintings and drawings by President Biden’s son…
Would anyone like to guess who this “Expert”/appraiser/$$-influence laundering Mark Tribe is??
If you guessed the son of Lawrence Tribe, you’d be correct.
Now, who would like to predict a name likely to come up for Supreme Court pick should Breyer step down as directed.
The art market= the second largest money laundering platform, second only to the luxury car markets.
…and then there’s the “Cash Advanced Book Deals” (for books which don’t sell)
I guess “they” knew a Hunter Biden book would NEVER pass muster after lap top revealed his illiteracy.
But didn’t he get a 2 million dollar advance for one?
Yes Paprika. You’re right. Please allow me to amend… “I guess “they” knew a Hunter Biden book would NEVER pass muster” as American public (and world at large) rejected book by illiterate son of Occupier in Chief and determined more subjective medium needed to funnel immediate and future kickbacks.?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hunter-biden-book-sales-b1832872.html
For those who might think this is hyperbole, my wife and I have been in and out of the art world over the years and I can 100% confirm. You don’t think someone is ACTUALLY paying $20M for a spray painted brick, do you? There is a LOT of give and take that comes with it that will never be trackable.
Broken down crackhead Hunter did not all of a sudden get in touch with his inner genius and master an elaborate technique.
Even a technique that involves blowing through a straw.
The art world has a money laundering problem
Shell companies with hidden owners. Middlemen who shield the identities of buyers and sellers. Inadequate safeguards to keep out shady money.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-art-world-has-a-money-laundering-problem/ar-BB17l7Ya
It’s the new “Book Deal” money laundering scheme. All buyers will be anonymous, so the people who are paying the Biden Crime Family can pay Hunter 500,000 smackers for a crayon drawing of Chinese hookers and nobody will know who they are.
Must have decided to take the GW Bush angle and use “art” as cover.
These crooked POS make me sick.
University Vaccine Mandates Violate Medical Ethics
College students aren’t guinea pigs.
Some 450 U.S. colleges and universities—including our institutions—have announced policies mandating that all students be fully vaccinated against Covid-19 before the fall semester, with some requiring vaccination now for the summer term. Schools have for decades required vaccination against infectious diseases, but these mandates are unprecedented—and unethical. Never before have colleges insisted that students or employees receive an experimental vaccine as a condition of attendance or employment.
Even soldiers, whose rights are constrained when they join the service, aren’t being compelled to take a Covid vaccine. In a case involving a vaccine against anthrax, a federal district judge held in 2004 that “the United States cannot demand that members of the armed forces also serve as guinea pigs for experimental drugs” absent informed consent or a presidential waiver of service members’ legal protections. The following year the judge held that an emergency-use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration was insufficient to meet the legal test.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/university-vaccine-mandates-violate-medical-ethics-11623689220?st=7z4jl16cskhu698&reflink=desktopwebshare_twitter
Isn’t it a wee bit scary that the president can sign a “presidential waiver of service members’ legal protections”?
So a president could waive service members’ immunity on the charges of murder’ when taking the life of the enemy on the battlefield during war that they were ordered to do so?
Attorney Robert Barnes maintains that the same law giving the vaccines emergency use authorization forbids forcing anyone to receive one.
Why are our elected officials all ignoring the predicament of so many Americans?
Because so far they have been able to do so without public backlash or legal consequences ?
Another post on alternatives to the ever more fascist global corporations doing the dirty work for the left. This is a media alternative and was set up as counter to the BBC and Sky News in the UK. No info on who underwrote the money or provided the impetus to create it (which may mean its a false alternative like Fox News). Still, the moment it came online, it beat out both BBC and Sky News in ratings.
GB News went live on Sunday night, and between 7 pm and 11 pm, garnered 164,400 viewers — more than BBC News’s 133,000 views and just 57,000 people who tuned into Sky News, according to BARB data reported by City A.M.
We will need alternatives for everything as all the big multinationals are now controlled by the left. All those decades of Ivy League schools pumping out indoctrinated Marxists now mean the Boards of Directors to most big companies are dominated by them. The thing about the left, they never let go of what they have stolen.
” No info on who underwrote the money”
Hanbun…..per ‘Mail On-line’ the largest investor in the new network is global media ‘Discovery Inc’
In May 2021, AT&T announced that it had proposed a merger between Discovery Inc. and its media subsidiary Warner Media which would be spun into a new publicly-traded company to be known as Warner Bros. Discovery. The transaction is subject to regulatory and shareholder approval.
Thanks for the update. This means a probable false alternative. Conservatives desperate for something will be lured in and get the same old narrative with a milder dressing (at first).
It really is amazing how genuine conservative start ups seem to be suppressed from forming. Its almost like some kind of organized effort against it. And no one to fight against it.
I have heard the phrase “crime against humanity” used by a local man, when speaking of a drug company’s push to get emergency authorization for a COVID vaccine to be used on children.
What is interesting is that this man specializes in criminal law.
One thing is clear about this “pandemic”, and you do not need to be a doctor or scientist to know this for a fact- when it comes to small children, there is no emergency. They simply do not need the vaccine.
Yes, noted expert on everything Andrew Cuomo says a child might kiss Grandma and kill her, but that isn’t good enough.
What is wrong with our elected officials?
This vaccine is NOT for children!
It is not for young adults either.
Bernie is the only politician who will say this.
“What is wrong with our elected officials?” you ask.
Perhaps you should START with the premise that they don’t give a damn about you or me or anyone–no matter whether that person is a baby, a child, a juvenile, or an adult. In fact, they would be happy if we all up and died immediately so that they can continue with their evil plans (NWO). In short, we’re expendable, and the sooner we are “expended,” the happier they’ll be!
Yup, politicians are just puppets.
Who Printed Ballots for Fulton County, GA and Why Is It Important? – Clever Journeys
FTA “Within two months, for the June 9, 2020 election primaries of Georgia, their Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger coordinated a deal with Runbeck Election Services who “partnered with Dominion Voting and the state of Georgia to send out more than one million absentee ballots.”
During the 2016 general primary, only 37,000 absentee ballots were submitted by mail. 200,000 were submitted for the November 2016 general election, just one fifth of the total had on the June 9 election date.
The surge was a result of Raffensperger’s office sending absentee ballot request forms to all of Georgia’s 6.9 million active voters.
“The Secretary of State is providing millions of dollars in grants to local elections offices for sanitation equipment, elections infrastructure, and other voting needs. One grant in particular is dedicated to equipment like drop boxes, which will make it easier for voters to return their absentee ballots and for local elections offices to accept them.“
One obvious question is why would Kevin Runbeck want a patent to generate revised ballots?
I could understand revising ballots if candidates, dates, locations change prior to an election event and printing of ballots, but how would this prevent tampering, prefilled vote choices and fraud?”
What could go wrong? Nothing to see here! Good grief this is a total sell out of a Federal election! So far no charges! C’mon man!
This untested vaccine should never have been released. The truth will out and heads will roll
“THE Covid vaccine should never have been released to the public because of its experimental nature, and it is giving rise to such serious complications and concerns over future risks that the rollout should be stopped immediately.
So says Dr Roger Hodkinson, a highly experienced retired pathologist who chairs an American biotechnology company which both sells a Covid test and is developing tests for early diagnosis of cancer.
His warning comes as the UK’s regulator is being urged to declare the Covid vaccines ‘unsafe for use in humans’ because of the high number of vaccine-attributed deaths (1,253) and adverse reactions (888,196, with 256,224 individual reports) over the five months to May 26. Hodkinson describes this report, by Dr Tess Lawrie, as ‘a devastating analysis of the whole mess’. ”
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/this-untested-vaccine-should-never-have-been-released-the-truth-will-out-and-heads-will-roll/
Anybody involved with this should hurry up and get on the right side of things.
Maybe that’s what the CDC was trying to do, by putting out new guidelines that, if followed, shift vaccine liability to the employers who foolishly implement FauXI’s “recommended” protocols.
Volunteers for human experiments waive liability before participating. Not so those who are harassed and coerced to get the jab, and do *not* consent to it willingly.
I believe the pharmaceutical companies are walking a fine line here, as they need to label their mRNA drugs “experimental vaccines” in order to be covered by an EUA that absolves them of all downstream liability for the trial “volunteers.” So they enlisted FauXI to get some other poor slobs on the hook when their vaccine is “faux-mandated.”
Yes, Dr. Roger Hodgkinson has been doing an excellent job speaking out and exposing the dangers of the vaccine. I listened to an interview he did with Dr. Reiner Fuellmich (lawyer with German Corona Investigative Committee) and he suggested that the way the vaxxed may be affecting the unvaxxed is if the spike proteins gather in the sweat glands, then its possible for the spike protein to get aerosolized in their sweat and then unvaxxed inhale it.
Also, here’s what Dr. Hodgkinson said to the Canadian govt when he first started speaking out:
Top Canadian pathologist, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, telling the Canadian govt: “There is utterly unfounded public hysteria driven by the media and politicians. It’s outrageous. This is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspected public… It should be thought of as nothing more than a bad flu season. It’s politics playing medicine and that’s a very dangerous game. There is no action needed…Masks are utterly useless. There is no evidence they are effective whatsoever. Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue signaling. It is utterly ridiculous seeing these uneducated people walking around like lemmings obeying without any evidence. Social distancing is also useless…Closures have had terrible consequence and everywhere should be open tomorrow… Positive testing results do NOT indicate clinical infection. It is simply driving public hysteria and ALL testing should STOP unless you are presenting to hospital with respiratory problems….it’s just another flu… https://www.bitchute.com/video/zQwxrBgrdAt0/
Remember, Russia has personal experience with this: Lenoid Brezhnev. Another man who was propped-up in office by ruthless, heartless people before he died in office … of Alzheimer’s. (No. Do not watch that YouTube video.)
The Stock Market is continuing on its decline after the indicator sell signal Sunday. The Federal Reserve Central Bank and US Treasury tried to prop-up the market late trading hours yesterday. However, the public is not buying their manipulation.
When you think about it, how many people actually trust the government right now? This is where “wishful thinking” collides with “reality” being Seen. It will be interesting to see if the Fed and Treasury attempt to again manipulate later in the market day.
It’s just a ‘ conspiracy theory ‘ don’t-cha know…..
THE COVID VACCINE AND DEPOPULATION – The beginning of the trail
( No More Fake News . com , John Rappaport’s blog )
” In the vaccine research community it’s an open secret that the Rockefeller Fund , the U.N. , and other groups have been backing the development of vaccines that function as agents of population reduction. This work has been going on for decades.”
Alexander Cockburn – Sept. 8 1994 – LA Times : ” Real US Policy in The Third World : STERILIZATION
A review of the Henry Kissinger commissioned 1974 National Security Study Memorandum 200
” which addressed population issues ”
” … writers of the Kissinger memo ” favored sterilization over food aid ”
” By 1977 Reimart Ravenholt director of US – AID population program, was saying that his agencies goal was to — STERILIZE ONE QUARTER OF THE WORLDS WOMEN ”
Henry Kissinger and Al Haig started the US State Department ” Office of Population Affairs ” also.
( Maintain Humanity Under 500 Million — First command on The Georgia Guidestones )
See also – Lew Rockwell . com
Yes, here’s the link to Rappoport (excellent site-he has 30 years of exposing fake pandemics, so he knows their tricks):
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/06/15/covid-vaccines-designed-for-depopulation/
Here’s an ex-Russian Military Intelligence officer saying that the covid psyop is a global operation by the financial behind the scenes powers, with the goal of depopulation”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/OKEY6eJsDi27/
“the first goal is to reduce the population numbers on Earth. That is the Satanic goal”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15265888/alien-contact-end-life-on-earth-scientist/
prepping the public for just before or just after the az audit results are released?
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Steve Bannon announced this morning that 12 European countries just agreed to a universal Vaccine Passport. The Marxists are trying to push it here, support everyone fighting back.
Selling these dangerous and ineffective potions has already minted nineteen new billionaires.
If “everyone on the planet” could be forced to buy a dose, and repeat every year, that would be worth trillions. You could easily afford to hand every elected official a $1 billion dollar bribe.
It’s not about health or medicine. It’s strictly about the money. And, making genetic modifications(!) to billions of people.
Michael “Big Short” Burry: This Is The Greatest Bubble Of All Time In All Things “By Two Orders Of Magnitude”
15 Jun 2021
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/michael-big-short-burry-greatest-bubble-all-time-all-things-two-orders-magnitude
The Big Short (2015) – Dr. Michael Burry Betting Against the Housing Market
The Big Short (2015) – Mark Baum’s Final Decision & The Aftermaths
A lot of Republicans and Democrats owe their positions to these corrupt election practices, therefore they don’t want to be discovered.
Marjorie Taylor Greene on Georgia Election Official’s Shocking Claims – “It’s a Big Deal. I Think It’s Going to EXPLODE!” (VIDEO)

By Jim Hoft
Published June 15, 2021 at 10:00am
BREAKING: @mtgreenee
on GA election official acknowledging large amount of documents missing for 2020 absentee ballots “Real election fraud
occurred…it is a big deal…I think this one’s going to explode.
The corrupt Republican leadership in Georgia continues to pretend that they are what they’re not and that no one sees their true colors.
The most corrupt Secretary of State in recent history, Brad Raffensperger in Georgia, continues to pretend that he is a good man working for the people of Georgia. This he is not.
Link to Video Clip (Click It)
Brad Raffensperger is a criminal and thinks as all criminals. No criminals think they are going to get caught. When they do get caught they go into denial with a plausible defense mechanism they have honed and truly believe.
They blame the accuser for not believing it too. They are usually; glib, charismatic, charming and persuasive.
Like Lucifer.
“In fighting those who serve devils one always his this on one’s side; their Masters hate them as much as they hate us. The moment we disable the human pawns enough to make them useless to Hell, their own Masters finish the work for us. They break their tools.”–C.S. Lewis, That Hideous Strength
So glad you decided to stick around. You find such good stuff.
If you ever find yourself back in the trash bin, feel free to knit on the afghan I left there to keep busy. Heck, odds are I will be there waiting for ya! lolol
I spit when I see his picture or hear his name. He sold Georgia voters a pile of horseshit when he ran….and the most hilarious thing was he ran on having proof/verification of your vote!!
Disgusting POS!
Christopher Rufo, who has been a champion in the fight against CRT (critical race theory) just came out with an excellent video (short and sweet) that thoroughly explains what CRT is and how it is being fought.
I strongly urge every parent, grandparent and anyone else who is coming up against this militant, anti-American indoctrination to watch this video. It is compelling, one of the best I’ve seen.
Excellent! Many thanks, Seneca the Elder!
“C.R.T.” answers the question: Can the Communists in American society become even more extreme in their desire to destroy the country?
Worth watching. ?
Thanks.
Indeed, this short vid by Rufo is excellent. Watch it. Share it. And share it some more…
MLK had a dream that his kids would not be judged by the color of their skin. Yet this is exactly what CRT actually is: “Jim Crow has returned.”
Furthermore, even though it seeks to make white folks feel guilty for being white, its real message is against black people, asserting that they’ve been victims for the past 400 years. (And, presumably, will continue to be so for another 400.) All just because of: “the color of their skin.” Since “of course, the black-skinned man can never be equal,” he must receive money to compensate for the fact that a man with that color of skin could never earn the stuff.
Agreed. The highest office in the land – and arguably the world- President of the USA- was held for eight years by one B Hussein Obama. Presumably this man was elected -not once but twice- by a nation of whites to lead the free world.
Yet here we are, still being bombarded with this myth that black people are institutionally oppressed by white supremecists? I call bull hookie. And what about Ben Carson, brain surgeon? He doesn’t seem too oppressed to me! And he, like people of all races and creeds, overcame hardships to get where he is now.
The moral of the story: Nobody is holding us back. Get up off your duff and work for what you have. Just like everybody else. This freedom and equality of opportunity, codified by our Constitution and Bill of Rights, is why everybody crawls over broken glass to come to the United States of America.
Everyone needs to learn how to fight this disease. I have a strategy if I’m ever called a racist. Ask the accuser this question. Have you ever heard the phrase “It takes one to know one”. Then, turn and walk away or ignore that person no matter what they say or do. What this does is inferentially turn it back on them that they, in fact are the racist, and by ignoring them they are now stuck with the realization of what they are.
Rufo was featured in ‘Imprimus’ recently defining CRT. Hillsdale College puts this pamphlet out monthly and it is a great resource. (And it’s free!)
A good watch. For those debating on whether to view or what “short and sweet” means, it is 18 minutes long.
If you do not feel angry enough today about our situation in America with a stolen election, here is a Reuters headline for you which came across my opening page (Firefox/DuckDuckGo) :
“TRUMP-INSPIRED DEATH THREATS ARE TERRORIZING ELECTION WORKERS.”
No, I did not read the trash, as the headline made me furious. They will say and claim and do anything to stop the audits and exposure of their criminality!
For some reason…..the news is being particularly VICIOUS about the “Capitol Riots,” President Trump and vaccines. I had to run to this site to soothe my need to anger-cry.
Maybe I’m just extra cynical today, but honestly that makes me laugh. Not only ‘does anyone really believe that claptrap,’ do they actually think anyone believes it? We’re watching them basically shout rhetoric at a brick wall…
What if the large corporations want to no their staff’s Covid Vaccine status in order to do their succession planning.
Here, for what it is worth, someone claims to be in the HR consulting biz for Oil and Gas industries ….
https://banned.video/watch?id=60c7aa4eb632c606a6cdfb2a
WOW, is this for real? I had trouble watching it because it kept cutting out.
I have to say she looked very credible.
If they are doing this they haven’t thought this through. If they think they are going to lose that much staff due to the jab, demand for their products will also collapse.
I have the same concerns. I look at my husband, family, friends and coworkers. And I can’t help but wonder how many of them will suffer from these ill-advised genetic experiments. What will happen to our country if the soldiers and first responders and medical personnel keel over? I’m not kidding!
Experiments should be *contained* because they are.. well.. EXPERIMENTS. How dangerous to make *everybody* take these mRNA injections! This fundamental disconnect is out of control, and may well prove a national security emergency!
i agree, markets will collapse. These oil and Gas folks may have only recently been made aware of the alleged lethality of the covid vax.
I don’t know why Americans who got all up in arms over Gardasil aren’t more concerned about an untested EXPERIMENTAL technology being forced on young and working Americans.
Is there a community where any of you discuss Q? It is clearly not allowed here.
I’m pretty sure it’s here:
https://www.fbi.gov/
There’s reasons for that.
Yes, there is – a Treehouse rip-off where the former Treepers who supported Q went, some time back. I’m sorry, I can’t remember what it’s called off the top of my head and a quick DDG search doesn’t turn it up. Try asking on tomorrow’s open thread, I know that one or two of the posters there also inhabit the Other Tree.
Start your own blog and discuss it all you want……and good luck with the FBI!
And if I might ask, how many comments did you consider and make on Sundance’s post about this yesterday?
Sounds like a limp biscuit to me.
Arizona Senator: State Lawmakers Prepared to Act on Findings From Election Audit
By Zachary Stieber
15 Jun 2021
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/arizona-senator-state-lawmakers-prepared-to-act-on-findings-from-election-audit_3859019.html
No they are laughing at us We The People!
Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich Responds to Biden Admin’s Threats: “My Office Is NOT AMUSED With DOJ’s POSTURING”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/arizona-attorney-general-mark-brnovich-responds-biden-admins-threats-office-not-amused-dojs-posturing/
Sounds great–if he means it and it’s not just a way to get a better job.
“If”.
Call me crazy but in the end could it be that Putin is the one who saves America from the commie leftists here in this country?
Putin has to be asking himself………..
Today we are part of the three headed monster – US Leftists/Globalists, China and Russia.
But as weak as America has become, if nothing changes, wouldn’t China virtually take over the US and then how soon until Russia becomes the hunted as they are not strong enough on their own to stop China domination.
I wonder if Putin is now thinking he and Russia are better off if the big 3 stay independent of each other to ensure world balance as before?
So if this speculation is on target, could Russia who I would assume has great intelligence, could they have hard evidence or captured communications of the Virus plot, captured communication and evidence of the election fraud?
And if so would they leak these communications and/or evidence to stem the coming together of the US Globalists and China?
Because doesn’t Russia come out on the short end of that stick if China gain dominance over the US?
And can anyone see Putin bowing to Xi?
Putin knows Trump is going to be back in charge of the United States in the near future and and continues accordingly.
Putin says NO to the WEF’s Great Reset (any politician here in the US saying anything AGAINST the Great Reset? We have Skull and Bonesman John Kerry saying Senile Joe and the Ho are going to bring in the Great Reset “fast and hard”)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/great-reset-putin-says-not-so-fast
In terms I can only describe as unfailingly polite, Putin told Klaus Schwab and the WEF that their entire idea of the Great Reset is not only doomed to failure but runs counter to everything modern leadership should be pursuing.
Putin literally laughed at the idea of the Fourth Industrial Revolution – Schwab’s idea of a planned society through AI, robots and the merging of man and machine.
He flat-out told them their policies driving the middle class to the brink of extinction over the COVID-19 pandemic will further increase social and political unrest while also ensuring wealth inequality gets worse.
It has happened before, but do not count on it.
In WWII,
Germany tried to (trick) befriend Russia, for awhile…
then after Germany began to expand into russia…
russia became a problem for Germany’s idea ( its mis- leader at the time )…
And yes, Germany eventually had other problems, resistance, with its mis-idea.
Imho
‘How Do I Have Two Medical Degrees If I’m Oppressed?’: Man Blasts Critical Race Theory With Powerful Speech
https://www.faithwire.com/2021/06/14/how-do-i-have-two-medical-degrees-if-im-oppressed-man-blasts-critical-race-theory-with-powerful-speech/?fbclid=IwAR1jhCL_z8q44KgckOQ_rzmcSSRnRPFZOwLAuOpS2N9ZrwejcBjgGhVwcLY
Another Treehouse member may have already posted this Youtube video previously, but I just finished listening to it and wanted to share it as well. It is an informative conference call among doctors and scientists regarding COVID19 vaccines, dangers, and alternative treatments. They also do an excellent take-down of Racheal Maddow and Fauci. It is a long call but worth listening to if you have a bit of time. https://youtu.be/RUyiARp8 Eric Weinstein & Bret Weinstein – Clubhouse Session
My apologies, not sure now to edit my post. Here is a working link – hopefully! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUyiARp8Aqo&t=11482s
Yikes! One more correction. For some reason, the video automatically starts towards the end, and you will have to manually start it from the beginning to listen to the entire episode.
Putin: “Did the US Government assassinate Ashli Babbitt?”
Makes you wonder if Putin might have a copy of someone’s laptop hard drive?
Putin has Eric Snowden.
Putin paid the Bidens through the Moscow Mayor’s widow. Receipts and photos.
She’s fine, Vlad.
This explains why he’s not in the club.
I think Putin should open the meeting, shake Joke’s hand with the ultra-firm handshake, and say “How is Ashli?” That would throw Joke off his 2 legged stool.