Florida Governor Ron DeSantis asks the obvious question today during a press conference in Lakeland, Florida. When asked a question about COVID vaccine delivery the governor said “the messaging is terrible.” Adding, “you’re telling people to get a vaccine and yet people that have been vaccinated for months are wearing masks” …”I can’t square if the vaccine is effective, then why are people wearing masks?”
Additionally, “If you get a vaccine, and the vaccine is effective, your immune; and so act immune.” “If you tell people the opposite then, gee, why if it’s not effective for them, and it doesn’t change anything for them, then why go through it?” The common sense remarks about the issue begin at 14:50 of the video below:
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Common sense is something the entire country seems oblivious to amid the COVID narrative.
[Side note – All major corporate media have dispatched their most combative reporters to trail DeSantis at all his speaking events and venues. It is transparently obvious why national media are trailing him around… they fear his growing influence and are working 24/7 on strategies to take him down. Quite remarkable actually.]
Maybe because 1 in 7 were supposed to die we are all a little brain dead.
All y’all Floridians should be jumpin for joy that you have such an amazing Governor.
Now, if only we can get Ric Grenell to get elected as governor of CA.
A girl can wish, can’t she?
We thank God everyday for the fact that he gave us Governor DeSantis! I can only imagine what is going through the heads of the totalitarian governors and their advisors. I imagine there are a lot of late night calls to George Soros and his ilk…..
Love this guy, plan to use all my energy and money to get him re elected!
Perfect Tony
Trade! Course, I would probably have to give you an arm and two legs as well. Some of us are stuck with Schitty Demo-guvs!!
For now I prefer Trump in 2024, but DeSantis is the one and only replacement if Trump does not run. Best case scenario in my mind for 2024 is Trump/DeSantis ticket with DeSantis in 2028. In my mind DeSantis is the obvious follow up to continue Trump’s America First policy. Gaetz May be next. That would give us 20 years of America First.
The dems May think they can exclusively control America into infinity. Not going to hsppen. They do not understand Patriots resolve to preserve our freedoms. We will meet the challenge and make our founders proud. They fought to establish this republic, we will fight to preserve it. With God’s help, we will win this war. We are the majority.
DeSantis is my president! (Until PDT is vindicated anyway….)
The problem is libertarian and progressive Republican Governors. No more Hutchinsons, Roems or Pences.
Or “DeWhines”.
“In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King”.
The saddest part of all this is that a generation ago De Santis would have been just an average governor.
Just an average Governor?
Who was better a decade ago as Gov?
Retard statement with Zero backup or context-
Thank GOD for our GOV
You know the progressives/moderates/libertarians despise him. That’s how LGBQWERTY rolls.
Have they called him a racist yet? That’s usually their modus operandi; Racist, xenophobic, homophobic, etc.
You can call me any of those and a lot more. Just don’t ever call me “Democrat.”
No, but they are now trying to tie DeSantis to Gaetz’ problems. Saw that today somewhere
The Gaetz attack is going nowhere – precisely because, like PDJT, Gaetz is fighting back.
Yeah, he doesn’t ride a skateboard across a stage.
Dem governance simply makes beta, delta, and gamma males feel better. The latter are registered Dems.
That’s how we know he’s a good man.
I was a libertarian for years, after escaping the DementoRat bubble over 40 years ago. It took Sundance and PDJT to introduce me to populism (I now call myself a popularian just to confuse moonbats, or a conservatarian as Dan Bongino says).
Many treepers seem to assume all libertarians are left-leaning pot smokers. But the reason I was tea party was what I learned about economics and free markets from them. Nobody else ever seemed concerned about the mounting national debt.
Also, it was freeing to perceive and call out the insanity on “both sides of the aisle,” though I was clueless as to the depth of it until Sundance University. That was one of the reasons sundance made immediate sense to me – I’d seen that there was only one party with two faces for decades.
I do completely agree that the libertarian movement has been largely perverted and co-opted now by the left, just as the honest grass roots civil-rights activists of the DementoRats were corrupted and destroyed by the radical left since the 60’s.
We now have the MAGA movement, the strongest and best yet – and we must take great care to make sure it doesn’t meet the same fate.
Oh I can’t imagine where you get an idea that even current libertarians despise Ron DeSantis. My closest (and far too purist) libertarian friend has adopted the COVID tyranny issue as his hill to die on – he’s in NH and spends most of his time going to anti-mask/shutdown rallies. DeSantis is a hero to him.
I think you missed the point.
No need for name-calling.
I think he just meant the quality of politicians and common sense has seriously degraded.
That’s inarguable. We all like the Guv.
Off course nation was not saying DeSantis is an average/mediocre governor, he was saying that a generation + ago, there were more governors like him. Example, Ronald Reagan in California. I don’t know particular states and governors in other states, but of CA had Reagan and now Newsome…….
offcoursenation posts: “The saddest part of all this is that a generation ago De Santis would have been just an average governor.”
isn’t a generation 25 years?
20 to 25
But you talk like a Louisianian!!
After what we’ve had for Governors for the last couple decades he is a lot more than a breath of fresh air!
Just think how close we were to having the druggie for gov.
You must be talking about Gillum. A Soros pick at that.. Sooooooo happy for you with DeSantis. I hope he has top notch security.
I only stopped jumping for joy long enough to post!! My daughter was really down after the election steal. I told her, Honey, be thankful that we live in Florida and that Ron DeSantis is our governor!
More common sense that Fauxi can’t seem to answer. I heard Mark Levine’s show yesterday and someone came on and said I had covid in the summer and survived (like a bad cold). Doesn’t a person have antibodies after they get the covid? Why on earth would they get vaccinated?
Here’s a vid from a doctor who asks the same question.
Probably a very good vid. to share w/ people you know who have had Covid and are still considering getting the vax. And this doc is not anti-vax in general so the message might be heard better w/ some people you/we know.
I haven’t had the Covid and I’m still Not going to be vaxed.
#1 It’s not a “Vaccine” by the traditional definition given by the doctor.
#2 the Survival rate is off the top of the charts, even for old healthy people.
#3 the risk, short or long term, is unknown from this experimental injection.
#4 I don’t want to, and I decide for me, if anyone doesn’t like that, Tough for you.
#4 Tough for them, not you personally. I certainly wouldn’t want to offend, Sarc 🙂
“If you find that mildly offensive, I am sorry. I wanted your head to explode.”
and we have safe therapeutics, too
I don’t get why people can’t grasp that. They will run to participate in a highly risky experiment, instead of taking lifesaving medications that are already proven safe AND effective.
Plus, why permanently reconfigure your own healthy immune system for a flu virus that is already 99 percent survivable?
I know doctors, dieticians, personal trainers and gym rats alike, who all rushed out to get their experimental jab like it was a Walmart supersale. It’s crazy!
“permanently reconfigure your own healthy immune system ”
This is the primary reason why I am not taking it. Not enough has been said/communicated on this point.
I dont take the flu shot, im sure as hell aint taking this. I cant believe how blind people are to even think of it. I’m just a 50 yr old construction worker and know better not to take that shit.
I am in the same boat with you. I will never get it. I live in Florida, get plenty os sunshine and take Vitamin D and C and Zinc. Now it came out from the Daily Mail of all places that Clorine in pools will kill Covid. If anything happens to people say 4 or 5 years from now by taking the jab, the Pharmaceuticals are off the hook.
I read that 7 minutes of sunshine kills it on solid surfaces. 7 minutes of Democrats kills not only an economy but a free nation. Give me sunshine not the death of a nation!
I’m in Florida as well! I hit the pool every day as soon as it is warm enough. Maybe the injecting bleach thing was THAT far off!! 🙂
That is what really mystfied me when they closed all of the public swimming pools. Is anyone really stupid enough that they think a virus will prosper in a chlorine-rich environment like a swimming pool? At work we mist all of the areas where people work with hypochlorous acid, which is basically concentrated swimming pool water, it even smells like it. Any virus left on any surface will be killed by that.
And now the CDC has quietly admitted that chances of getting the CCPVirus from surfaces are so low that the mad rush to disinfect all year did nothing but pile up money for the Clorox manufacturer.
I’m quite sure this was well known to the tyrants all along, too. The Princess Cruise ship petri dish experiment within the first month easily proved it.
Another under the table payoff to globalists.
Likely killed a lot of other disease causing germs. And the increased hand washing has been a good thing.
The problem is they expected us all to drink their poison, but too many of us said no way. Now they intend to strongarm the holdouts.
There is no need to mandate a “vaccine” for a flu that is as survivable as any other flu season. So what’s the real reason for their high pressure tactics? Money? Genocide?
Meanwhile, with no political pressure to deter them, CHINA is free to unleash even more deadly bioweapons in the future.
Read my lips, not going to do it. I am in the same boat as him, except my infection was more recent. I was leaning towards the J&J based on the delivery method tech, but three strikes:
*I don’t care how far removed that material is from the actual fetus, to me it’s fruit of the poisonous tree. So I don’t have any intention of getting the “jab”, even if that makes life difficult.
That’s exactly what Tucker Carlson is asking! Along with, Is it safe? (Sometimes not!) Is it effective? (We really don’t know!) Right now it’s just vaccine roulette!!
Actually we do know it’s not effective – their own EUA data proves it according to Dr. Fleming.
Maybe the vaccination if sterilization.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/disturbing-unvaccinated-women-claim-unusual-menstrual-cycles-miscarriages-after-being-near-recently-vaccinated-individuals/
Just the idea that the Pfizer CEO is saying that not only will you need a second booster shot, but an annual, seasonal shot is recommended should raise a lot of red flags. Also, many of the countries overseas are already climbing all over themselves to push out the best vaccine passport. Here, they are letting in illegals by the thousands per day, many infected, not quarantined and shipped all over the country. Bottom line is this, if you can’t trust the people that are pushing this thing, why in the world would you submit to this type of overreach?
I work with physicians in TN. One of them has treated over 3000 COVID patients. His advice: Do Not get the vaccine* with naturally acquired antibodies present in your system. Most of the negative reactions from the experimental injections are occurring to those who already have natural antibodies. The experimental injections overwhelm their systems. Antibodies or not, I am not getting the injection – it doesn’t prevent getting the infection, nor giving the infection to others. All pharma promises is that the injection will lessen the symptoms and prevent hospitalization if infected. That is why those injected are told to social distance and wear masks. They have no immunity and can still be infectious. By taking the injection you are agreeing to take part in an experimental trial. Media and politicians throw around the term, “approved” when talking about the injections. The FDA NEVER uses the term “approved” For these injections. The correct term is “emergency use authorization.” The law requires an “informed consent” process be followed before becoming part of an experimental trial. No one I know that has had the shot(s) has been given informed consent. They have no idea that their shots were given as part of an experimental trial, that they “agreed” to be part of It, nor that it doesn’t prevent infection.
And the fact that those that are getting the shots are giddy about getting them and talking about them and asking when you are getting yours. Can you say mind control or brainwashed? Yeah I knew you could.
Anyone that COULD actually think for themselves would say hell to the no under normal circumstances. Like say if the government was saying heroin would get rid of covid. Would anyone take it? Well aside from a few NO. But there are alot of people I consider to be intelligent, making a very bad choice on this vaccine and it leads me to no other conclustion and that is mind control.
Excellent movie.
Great movie!
That’s Afghanistan, except the madness didn’t go on for nearly as long.
I paid a quarter to see that movie when it came out.
My English uncle was there, captured in Burma and it was a living hell.
It is also telling Trump has let DeSantis take the point on this issue, and that it is DeSantis and not Trump putting this messaging out.
I agree. Trump came out and named DeSantis (along with a few others) the future of the Republican Party. I loved President Trump, but I don’t see him running for POTUS again, especially when he has someone like DeSantis he can whisper in the ear of to run instead.
I would like to see DeSantus be Trump’s VP for one term in order that PT train him in foreign affairs, which he lacks. He’s been a congressman, gov, and if he were VP and then 2 terms as Pres it would be spectacular.
DeSantis seems to have the knack and foreign relations isn’t actually that hard, democrats are simply too stupid to do it properly.
I agree with that. PDJT’s formula seemed to be: simply treat every nation as a economic competitor, start out friendly with all, but never give way on the deal that’s best for our country. And be willing to negotiate by walking away at any moment.
But whenever possible, negotiate a deal that helps us the most and everyone else as much as possible after that.
Because, America First.
The concept is Occam’s Razor defined. It’s the execution of it as a strategy, however, that takes the endless courage that PDJT has, and we hope Governor DeSantis has as well.
Trump used economic/trade negotiation in foreign affairs. This is the aspect I would like to see Trump use/train/introduce DeSantis to the countries so the same process continues in the same manner. Countries no longer can trust USA in trade — current policies show it (Mexican border, Central American countries, gas/oil, etc.) USA needs long-term continuity which 4+4+4 years of PT/DeSantis+DeSantis+esantis will give us.
Meanwhile Comrade Whitmer in Michigan is demanding 2-4 year old’s mask up! That is child abuse!
And she just extended the Covid Gulag Protocols into the fall, timed just perfectly to be extended again before the holidays.
At “some point” people will realize that lead cures Covid Gulag Protocols. Certainly by the “Camp Covid” point, one would think.
Lead cures all.
In Florida our schools are open and word is coming down from the boards to dump the masks in our county.
Teachers have definitely not dropped like flies (one of them shows up for dinner every night), and the filthy brain dead rug rats are still in class.
Either specific genotypes settle in the Northern states, and that makes them unusually susceptible to the Flu, or…
In the Northern states voters are more susceptible to voting for tyrants and tolerate them longer.
I think it’s the voting algorithms that install these tyrants. Trump won NY in 2020. I am sure of it.
michigan parents dont think its abuse.
Very sad if true….
Then they need a stupidity passport to leave Mich-again!
Maybe the reason Michigan is leading the nation in COVID cases is the people have been locked away and are deficient in vitamin D.
BINGO. Get some damn sun and take a bunch vitamin d supplements and you’ll drastically reduce the chance of getting sick. They wheeled Spanish flu people out into the sun and their recovery improved dramatically.
I live in the once-great state of Michigan and am very fair-skinned. Have to wear sunscreen ALL THE TIME. I have a very good immune system (I guess) because I hardly ever get sick. Having learned the benefits of vitamin-D, I have started taking supplements of it just in case.
So many good ideas get twisted into fear, and sunscreen — in my personal opinion — is one of them. I am cursed with Irish skin, and have an annual checkup with a dermatologist. At 65, I have never had any problems arising from exposure to sunshine without sunscreen.
Vitamin D levels are crucial to the proper functioning of our immune systems as it enables our bodies to benefit from so many other vitamins and minerals. While vitamin D supplements are a godsend for some, getting it from sun exposure is best.
Chemical compounds in many sun screens can interfere with that process. I believe the 15-20 minutes a day of sun without the impediment of sunscreen provides a much greater health benefit than risk. If I am going to be in the sun for a longer period, I then reach for the sunscreen.
But moderation never sells consumer goods as well as fear does……..
Agree. I’ve had melanoma but still try to get in the sun.
Put Idiot Whitmer in charge of a 100 child day care with her sole job to keep them masked all day (except lunch and snacks). See how long before she completely loses what little sense she has!
I think one may find a positive correlation between UAC resettlements in MI, hotel/motel vacancy rates, and the “alarming surge” in MI CV19 ‘cases’…
I used to have sympathy for the people of Michigan, but if they are going to continue to let themselves be abused, that’s on them.
Papers Please Komrade
The experimental ‘ vaccine ‘ shall make you FREE !
Why do they now want to vaccinate the young ? (aside from possible sterilization issues )
” Diet , injections and injunctions will combine from a very early age to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs the authorities consider desirable and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become PSYCHOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE ”
Bertrand Russel : Impact of Science on Society , 1953
In the words of the Wicked Witch of the West—“the better to genetically alter you my pretty!!
Leading contender for President in 2024 is why. If Trump runs, then DeSantis will be happy to remain Governor
If President Trump runs again in 2024, DeSantis may be his VP.
A lot will depend on the midterm results and that will depend on ending voter fraud and voting machine fraud.
If Trump doesn’t run, expect Trump to back DeSantis if he stays the course. Those are my guesses.
I believe that the VP and President cannot be from the same state.
https://www.history.com/news/can-the-president-and-vice-president-be-from-the-same-state
There’s no law or regulation against a president and vice president of the United States being from the same state. The reason why some people mistakenly believe such a prohibition exists comes down to a particular aspect of the Electoral College system laid out in Article II of the U.S. Constitution.
Thank you, SunnyFlower5. 🙂
Georgia and AZ will fall soon, 3 to 5 states after that. Trump will be recognized President before the end of the year. DeSantis will be his VP and President thereafter. So shall it be.
“If” Trump runs again, hopefully he will not select a Traitor like Pence again. He can make himself Impeachment proof by having an “Atilla the Hun” as VP.
Obama did the same in the opposite direction, No One could imagine Joe Bo Biden as president….. Not that Estab Quisling Repubs would resort to such bar room brawling to preserve anything that Obama was destroying.
If Trump surrounds himself with progressives and libertarians again, supporting De Santis is not a difficult choice.
Hopefully Mitch will be retired in Ken-tuckee with the Eel Elaine.
mitch Bitch controlled every nomination but one. He nixed John Ratcliffe until Trump outfoxed him by putting Ric Grenell in as DNI. Ole Mitch couldn’t back Ratcliffe fast enough could he??
Like.
And no one wants to imagine Kackula Harris as president. Saw her on the tube today giving a statement and had closed captioning on. With her mask, her garbled garbage came across CC as “Speaking in foreign language”. So appropriate!!
2024 will be a repeat of 2020 unless Dominion/Smartmatic aren’t removed from every battleground state.
Removed from every state, battleground or not.
Exactly. “Battlegrounds” change just like the Congressional votes do. They always cheat just enough, and they know exactly where to do it. NO states should have hackable voting machines!
Many people still don’t imagine Biden as president.
2024 will be a repeat of 2020 unless Dominion/Smartmatic aren’t removed from every battleground state.
DeSantis is more effective as Governor than he would be as the President. If we learned one thing from the past four years it’s that we need more RED STATES to prevent election fraud and treasonous COUPS.
The states have all the power. Without a cooperative Congress sent by states to pass comprehensive legislation, Presidents can only write executive orders that are quickly removed by succeeding presidents.
We need DeSantis right where he is.
I saw this somewhere – maybe here
When asked about why I’m not wearing my mask I reply “I can’t because I have CS. Common Sense.”
When they ask, “What’s CS?”
Tell them it’s a brain condition where you need all the oxygen you can get.
My response to mask Nazi’s asking, trying to intimidate: “Where’s your mask”:
“Where’s your brain? Were you issued one? How come you don’t use it? Did you lose the directions?”
I just said the same thing to a few co-workers earlier this week, in front of left and right alike.
Seriously, what’s the point?!? If you can still catch the virus and you could still spread the virus, what difference does it make? And I’m supposed to take an experimental vaccine for this?
One shook her head in agreement, the others just looked back at me with blank stares. Hopefully, it got someone thinking about it.
They better come up with an improved marketing campaign, they’re losing believers…
its a trust fall.
the corportate and gov world wants to see if we trust them, or not.
take the vaccine if you trust them…. make a list. helps them focus disciplinary resources on the non vaxxed. use corporations to demand employees vax to lessen the number again of obedient citizens.
and finally push all the non vaxxes outside the WALL. into the lower lands of the presidential daily thread image
I don’t trust them. But sadly, I gave into pressure from my family. And you know what the worst part of it is? I feel like I have failed my family by doing what they wanted me to do.
Great job, Governor DeSantis, but we all need to step our game up another notch and not cede one inch of the language to the Left.
These injections are not vaccines as historically defined but rather are experimental gene therapies approved only under emergency authorization – and this when there isn’t even a true emergency. In addition, the makers, in their patents, explicitly state that the product prevents neither infection nor spread. It simply does not provide immunity. It only purports to lessen symptoms. And as an added “feature”, it’s a tool that paves the way to medical tyranny.
Language matters and the Left in winning the game of its manipulation.
You are so right! Language and words matter!
It’s hard to lose with the Quisling Repubs as the In-House “Opposition.”
Yep, he is not calling it what it is. Why?
Lots of doublespeak coming from the gov when listen with ears on the lookout out for wolves in sheep clothing.
I am not saying Gov D is one, but we have been fooled too many times to ignore inconsistencies.
I don’t think DeSantis is obfuscating. I think that he and far too many others in positions of power and influence are truly unaware of the reality behind everything COVID.
Many of us have steeped ourselves in information about this. It abounds on the internet and comes from reputable sources from around the globe . I suppose these politicians and writers could be excused by saying they are too busy to look into the issues, but considering the enormous detrimental impact of the COVID measures taken, I don’t cut them a lot of slack. They should personally be up late at night reading up on the issues.
What the Faucinians will not tell you is that the “vaccine” is not a preventative. It only mitigates symptoms. That is why they are being so jumbled in their messaging.
What I want Representatives and Senators to start asking Fauci and other administration officials is:
These are the kind of questions that need to be asked.
You can ask Fauci every question in the book, but he is getting paid royally to lie and obfuscate.
They didn’t make us sick enough with the GMO foods and ingredients, so they decided to go all in and release the virus.
Then, your wealth becomes their wealth.
He and Joe are running neck and neck for unity and transparency. Dead F—-in’ last!
THIS THIS THIS
Why aren’t we sending Covid positive people home with therapeutics if they want it?
The answer of course is then they cant push vaccine. I’d still like to hear why.
They can’t administer the experimental gene therapy if there are treatments for the targeted ‘disease’. So big financial interests are silencing anyone who states there is a cure or therapy for the disease.
What the Faucinians will not tell you is that the “vaccine” is not a preventative. It only mitigates symptoms. That is why they are being so jumbled in their messaging.
?????
In other words it’s like every flu vaccine, which protects you to a certain degree and yes, even if you were innoculated against the correct strain of the flu, you can come down with symptoms, symptoms that are, as you say, “mitigated.”
No two people have immune responses that are the same. In fact, there are so many factors influencing your immune response that your system doesn’t react the same exact way to the same pathogen.
I would also ask Fauci if he has a stake in the vaccines that are being pushed!?
I think he helped develop the CoV 19 virus AND also invested in the “vaccine”!
it would be interesting to know if he is benefiting from the very thing he helped to create.
The insanity of it all is hard to take in.
That is a logical question.
The World Economic Forum has another solution for people. The “smart mask”. They want to keep us masked up, socially isolated and selective businesses opened.
Smart masks for DUMP PEOPLE!
It’s positively Orwellian.
Here’s their latest video – The WEF video is the one to watch.
https://www.weforum.org/videos/21559-mask-tech-uplink
The youtube video doesn’t tell you ALL about it. It just mentions it as outrageous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpJVTn0nplw&t=27s
This was censored on Youtube because the don’t want people to know the truth:
https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
The drumbeat of the hoodoo docs is “Get vaccinated or expect to be hospitalized and/or die.” It is still loud enough to affect the behavior of five democrat siblings of mine, who live in different states across the country, to hear and obey. Fortunately the Democrats are the minority. So when is this wonderful governor going to get some agreement from others and sound the alarm together in a reasonable, consistent, uncompromising way. I found a few but it needs to be louder than that. I think the others who have the microphones, media attention, and brains may be waiting to see what happens to DeSantis as the jackals move in and THEN they’ll decide. Don’t know for sure but my guess……..I do not wear a mask and am not vaccinated. I have antibodies from a mild case. Antibodies don’t go away as some say. They last. I am 73 and still have a long life ahead of me.
I am only valuable when I am free, love the truth, and have maintained my integrity by the strength of Christ, God my Father, and the Holy Spirit. What do we want to do? Live for something less than this? God covers it all: family, children, houses, food, clothing, work, travel, etc. when we are doing what He wants us to do. Governor DeSantis is the voice in the wilderness.
Prepare the way. Make the paths straight. Take the rocks out of the highway. That the righteous nation might come forth.
But really is it the United States or do we seek another? I need to get ready for something. Without resistance, this nation will fall. Then what? I appreciate this place online where there seems to be resistance every day and it’s important. But what are the actions we need to take to resist? I’m not sure.
I’m with you. When the dire news started spewing from the MSM, I became very suspicious and started reading everything from every source which I could identify which did not use “sources” or “experts”. I’m not a doctor, but I very much agree with “Frontline Doctors” in that hydroxychloroquine/ivermectin and zinc can prevent hospitalization and death in most cases. There are a number of studies which strongly suggest fraud and malfeasance by government institutions, medical associations, pharmaceutical companies and especially the media.
Once you understand this, the whole vaccine sales pitch begins to very much look like a carnival sideshow with the pharmaceuticals moving the targets/peas/whatever.
DeSantis gets it. I’ve posted it before, but this event, not a study, was the most influential piece which I read:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2020/07/15/media-should-do-a-mea-culpa-as-french-analysis-offers-a-stunning-observation-about-hydroxychloroquine-use-n643181
Covid fear panic has kept the media alive, and give them a purpose daily– without covid fear they have no power over the dimwitted amongst us.
I would argue that the lying media has kept the coronavirus fear alive, and gives them an evil purpose every day!
So, we need vaccination passports because we cant trust people to be truthful about that but you can’t question a male prisoner that says he is all a sudden transgender and wants to be moved to a woman’s prison.
Whether a transvestite or a transsexual, he’s still a man. DNA does not lie.
Nor can we test and refuse an illegal alien who is infected. Nope, Cackles and Hiden’ just welcome them, pad their pockets and send them out to infect red states. Saw a bit on CNN (I know, nut I like to see the perversion for myself so I can more readily debunk it) about states that have the highest increases in CoVid cases. Strange that they were also among the states that were “blessed” with multiple buses of illegal aliens. Imagine that!?!
Profits for Pfizer, Bill Gates, and big pharma, a percentage of which get kicked to an offshore account for deep state pols, so be sure to sign up y’all! And who’s paying for all this? Some ad in my state says “it’s free!” Really? How does that work? Somebody’s gettin’ paid big time…
You mean the Democrat “chosen” corporations??
For all the good little sheeple mask wearers and mask Nazis, I proudly present this video by Five Finger Death Punch (and, by the way, I purposely chose YouTube to shove it in their face):
Love it!
Very good
“Common sense is something the entire country seems oblivious to amid the COVID narrative.”
America has lost a lot of common sense in the last several decades, the masses of anxious fearful mask-wearers are not surprising considering this.
The loss accelerated starting in the 1970’s with the destruction of the family by the rise of third wave feminism. The family is the base of childhood development and society itself, the new model is worse for children in all respects and the opportunities for developing independent thinking and common sense have been largely obliterated. Not to mention the profound harm to development and ability caused by chronic negative stress such as imposed by family hostility, strife, and instability, the hallmarks of the impacts of feminism on the family.
The destruction of common sense has only gotten worse since then, with the secondary effects on education.
For example: Most people now apparently don’t have the sense to understand basic math, they didn’t have enough opportunities and incentives to learn it as kids on their own, and the schools increasingly replaced clear instruction with incompetent pedagogy leading to Common Core math, an overcomplicated attempt to address the shortcomings (pushed by Bill Gates). This has produced millions of people who are math-disabled. So they won’t even try to understand simple things, like IFR = (fatalities)/(infections), where the number of infections was MASSIVELY underestimated which MASSIVELY overestimated the hazard of covid, precipitating the unwarranted lockdowns and all the rest.
Unfortunately Pleas, far too few Americans have enough curiosity to research the virus, the treatments, the results, and the consequences of the vaccine. The Democrats have sold fear to far too many ignorant Americans. Many of them are seemingly intelligent. They just aren’t smart! Blind loyalty. Blind trust. Blind faith. All traits which result in a controlled sector of society. These sheeple will be herded into pens much like the Jews went to Auschwitz. Intelligent people. Stupid too!
Correct, to put it a different way there are different forms of intelligence, common sense is the form built from experience without helicopter parents, when informed by sound information it produces wisdom.
That’s what so many are missing. Raised by coddling mother figures (or feminized father figures) afraid to let them out to skin their knees and make their own mistakes, programmed by government schools to conform and obey authority, taught that the most important thing is to never fail (but to try to hide it if you do) because failure lowers grades.
It turns out that normal failure is a great teacher and it builds common sense.
But when failures reach the scale of the Great covid Debacle, they can destroy civilizations.
I can come up with an answer to that. The virus is new and we have very little data regarding transmission. We don’t really know whether there is asymptomatic transmission on first exposure or not. That is, someone may be infected with an initial infection, have ZERO symptoms, yet be shedding live viruses wherever he goes. Same for secondary exposures. Someone could have been exposed, developed antibodies naturally, and then be re-exposed multiple times and never get sick, yet still be shedding live viruses during those periods of re-exposure. We just don’t know.
Similarly, someone who has been vaccinated and has developed antibodies as a result of the vaccine could later be exposed and not get sick because his body is fighting it off just like it does all the other millions of viruses, bacteria, fungii, and so on. But while this is going on he may be shedding live viruses. WE just don’t know. We don’t have the data.
That help? Sorry, but this ain’t rocket surgery.
The problem is, NO ONE is telling us the straight story, and they haven’t been right from the start, EVEN under Trump. My theory as to why? Because no one knew whether that incompetent lab in Wuhan, financed by Fauci, accidentally kicked off a mass extinction event with their Frankenstein viruses. They were all terrified. So everyone has been scrambling for cover for the past 14 months, afraid to say ANYTHING true, for fear we will put the pieces together and follow the trail back to them.
Actually, those who are asymptomatic CANNOT pass along the virus, so your theory’s full of holes.
Uh ….. not so. I have no idea where you got that notion. Take a look at this paper from JAMA.
FTA: “ In this decision analytical model assessing multiple scenarios for the infectious period and the proportion of transmission from individuals who never have COVID-19 symptoms, transmission from asymptomatic individuals was estimated to account for more than half of all transmission.”
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2774707
This is all based on a unreliable PCA test! No one knows anything about the virus, what the stats are or how it’s transmitted. That’s that bottom line.
Thank you. My original point precisely.
Not only that:
For all estimates we used data from a meta-analysis of 8 studies from China to set the incubation period at a median of 5 days with 95% of symptomatic individuals developing symptoms by day 12.17 Therefore the daily (t) probability of symptom onset (pso) for individuals who develop symptoms was:
pso(t) = FLog−Normal(t,logmean = 1.63,logsd = 0.5).
I love data that comes with the descriptors a) estimates, b) from China and c) probability of symptom onset. IOW, you’re guessing. The Pajamanetwork strikes again!!
It is a ‘model’ so you can put anything in to give you the result you want to see. Just like they put the ‘make CO2 cause global warming’ steps into the computer and it spits out warm temperature projections/predictions that constantly fail.
“analytical model assessing multiple scenarios”
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Translation: not fact based.
Models are what got us into this mess.
How it works. Key point FTA: “After the mRNA helps your cells make the protein pieces, the mRNA is immediately broken down. It never enters the nucleus of your cells,”
Google it and go to real medical sources. Here, Mayo.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/different-types-of-covid-19-vaccines/art-20506465
“After the mRNA helps your cells make the protein pieces, the mRNA is immediately broken down. It never enters the nucleus of your cells,”
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And you know that’s true because the pro-experimental EUA only ‘vaccine’, Mayo Clinic said so?
Those who are asymptomatic can pass on the virus. This is exactly what Taiwan was warning in December 2019.
SARS-COV-2 is a result of a GOF study that used the CRISPR shears to give a bat Coronavirus the ability to target human cells via their ACE2 receptor.
The primary expression of cells with the ACE2 receptor in the human body is the gastrointestinal tract, not the lungs. However, the small intestine defends itself by sheading compromised cells along with clusters of viable cells. This means the virus can actually replicate in fecal fomites that have left the body.
This is why the infection on the Diamond Princess cruise ship spread like gastro, not flu, even when all passengers and crew were masked. This is how the Hong Kong tower sewage transmission occurred.
People with zero respiratory symptoms can be harbouring and sheading the virus. It’s in their guts, not lungs.
here is WHY you and others are incorrect.
follow along.
the virus hits a person for the very first time..day one.. it’s novel…this person who later achieve a level of immunity to prevent symptoms is STILL replicating the virus ..this happens in EVERYONE. it’s viral load that varies
it’s not possible for anyone body to completely OBLITERATE the virus a
or to prevent replication…it’s the entire process of replicating to a certain level and THEN OVER TIME the body registers a significant immune mechanism. again, this is simplifying reality. reality is that replication thresholds and dwell time varies from person to person… incubation factor is this particular phenomena with c19…it’s quite long … because it’s novel…the body resists the virus from replicating to a harmful level eventually…or not…
everyone sheds ..it varies how much shedding happens.
that this virus spread around the world at a record clip pretty much proves shedding is a very real thing. and a very low overall mortality rate proves asymptomatic human to human transmission caused this…good news? most people do have a good immune response to it and never get I’ll..
SD referred to study conducted in Wuhan of all places, 10 million volunteers tested using accurate/truthful kits. They found 300 million people a symptomatic yet positive. So they trace all the people each had close contact with. Then test that group. ZERO sick. ZERO test positive. Same as every virus, if you ain’t sick you ain’t passing it.
Hence the blowout massive New Years Eve street party party – in the streets of Wuhan. Pictures are out their, our media share of course.
It must be rocket surgery and you’re not one because you got everything wrong in your statement. Do some research before posting. We don’t need to spread more asymptomatic BS. I believe we all know why they’re doing this. CONTROL!!!
Did you even read the article I posted? It is from January this year. Keep spreading your BS from crackpot sites if you want. I’ll go to JAMA and Mayo for real information.
FTA: ” Conclusions and Relevance In this decision analytical model of multiple scenarios of proportions of asymptomatic individuals with COVID-19 and infectious periods, transmission from asymptomatic individuals was estimated to account for more than half of all transmissions. In addition to identification and isolation of persons with symptomatic COVID-19, effective control of spread will require reducing the risk of transmission from people with infection who do not have symptoms. “
THIS IS NOT “REAL INFORMATION”, IT’S HYPOTHETICAL
“In this decision analytical model“
Recall it was “modeling” that started lockdowns and predicted hundreds of millions would die horrible deaths in short order.
JAMA and Mayo are both co-opted by Big Pharma.
Neither one of them is a trusted source any more than the corrupt DOJ is a real justice system.
The Lancet appears to be out as well.
See withdrawn HCQ study that Fauci used.
One cannot be asymptomatic and spread disease any infectious disease. If one has no symptoms one is not sick. A PCR test can find stuff that isn’t there and it is called a false positive.
sigh. I give up. Sorry, Annie, but do me one, just one, favor. Google “typhoid Mary” and read the summary at the right in the results. Here. I’ll make it even easier for you.
“Mary Mallon, also known as Typhoid Mary, was an Irish-born cook believed to have infected 53 people with typhoid fever, three of whom died, and the first person in the United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier of the disease,”
Dude, be honest, how many masks are you wearing right now? The over/under is 2 and I’ll take the over.
Sorry, Trapper. Had to do it!
“Google”?
Watch the documentary The Creepy Line to find out what horse manure Google is serving you up in its search results.
We don’t really know whether there is asymptomatic transmission on first exposure or not.
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WHO recently said positive Covid test no proof you have Covid. Further said positive test without symptoms requires retesting. If positive again, culturing should be attempted to prove Covid.
https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05
This puts to death claims of asymptomatic transmission, inasmuch as said claims are entirely based on a single, positive PCR test.
Do any of the LGBQWERTY sociopaths at the CDC and NIH have an answer for that? Masks forever for a chest cold but no control over the LGBQWERTY spreading AIDS amongst themselves?
not a vaccine. Per Moderna’s own insert.
Does not impart immunity. Does not inhibit transmissibility. Only lessens severity of symptoms if and when you contract covid. That’s it. Nothing more than gene therapy. Go study the mechanism.
Vaccine tag by fed govt allows complete liability protection.
Great Reset. Complete control. I believe the operators were floored with the weakness and inability of the populace to push back. Here we are. This will never end until you decide to end it. Keep wearing your mask. Social distance. In this together. You are the engine.
From the very first National Center for Health Staristics covid provisional death count publication 2/2019 it was very CLEAR covid was “killing” people with multiple serious comorbidities. Overdose. Suicide. Poisoning. Heart attack. Flu and pneumonia and. No one really dies of covid. They die because their immune system is weak, beat down, or compromised. That’s it. Period. Find me a single dead teenager that died strictly from covid. They don’t exist. NCHS data points it out for anyone curious enough to read it.
Rush made the comment that if the virus was that horrible, that horrid, that REAL, that dangerous (to paraphrase), they wouldn’t need to fudge its numbers on deaths, etc.
It is a PCR test pandemic that is over, now.
“Common sense is something the entire country seems oblivious to amid the COVID narrative.”
There’s a sucker born every minute.
― P.T. Barnum
Except in America as it is more like every second.
Why take the vaccine for an illness with a 99.8% survival rate unless you happen to be part of the high risk category? There is no such thing as asymptomatic transmission.
Asymptomatic transmission, aka “healthy.”
Agreed. and what’s the rush to go get an emergency experimental vaccine that wasn’t even tested on mice? It’s not like springtime is high flu season. Even if you were thinking of getting it why wouldn’t you wait to see how it goes and then wait til next flu season. Most of us would never even take a beta software upgrade before its generally available for release and yet we’ll jab some unknown substance into our body from companies that have never produced a successful vaccine of any kind. Where did this all go wrong??
What are they?
1) Face Masks
2) Face Diapers
3) Face Mussels
4 Face Burkas
5) Face Condoms
6) Jew Badges
If our President Trump decides not to run in 2024, I would support Ron DeSantis without hesitation.
He is the ONLY politician out there who is 100% pure MAGA.
He says that he is not going to make vaccinations mandatory in his state but is he going to tell the corporations and big businesses they cannot force their employees or customers to be vaccinated either? That is the bigger problem that absolutely needs to be addressed IMHO! Is Disney World going to be allowed to mandate it for their employees and visitors to their Resort? What about sporting events or concerts held inside his state? How about national chain stores, such as Walmart, or Target, or Costco?
I hear you. I’m concerned about airline travel. Will they require the vaccine? What about admission into foreign countries? No one seems to worry about the vaccination status or carrier status of anyone stealing their way here on the southern border, that’s for sure.
Exactly! I can’t count the number of times I have been on airplane next to someone who was coughing and sneezing the entire flight… but if I don’t touch anything they touched and keep my hands away from my face, I know I’m not going to get sick.
The idea that passengers would be required to provide proof of an experimental gene therapy treatment before they’re allowed to board a flight is Draconian at least if not outright Nazism! This will basically force everyone who has to travel for their work or who wants to travel to visit family, friends, or other parts of the country or world, to be part of a vast medical experiment, regardless of their own medical history or their own doctor’s recommendations!
This is the hill that all conservatives must be willing to die on! This is NOT okay and the moment it is okay, we have lost everything!!
IF Gov does NOT address this, well, it is indication we may have another Pence on our hands. Conservatives seem to get die-hard loyal hard and fast and defend in face of obvious contradictions.
We need to pay attention on this.
The commonsense coalition. Has a nice sound to it!
There seems to be alot of people that have found meaning in life from this scamdemic. You get to feel smart by saying things like “follow the science”, yap at people for not “following the science” and sit at home the rest of the day and watch cable TV. They don’t want this to end!
You nailed that one for sure. In blueMA I am surrounded by Karens who think the vaccine is a magic bullet that will bring back Summer of 2019.
They snap pictures of their vaccine cards and post them on Booky McFaceBook.
Some years ago, Erdogan of Turkey said democracy was just a trolley you rode to get to your final destination (sharia).
Covid is the trolley the left is using to reach their destination of one party dictatorship.
They act like it is the black death. Your eyes say it is the flu. Whether you obey is the test of passivity and timidity they will use to shove tyranny down your throat.
It’s being reported on the dailymail(dotcom) website today that a 43 year old father of 7 children suffered a stroke just hours after receiving the J&Jjab. White man, got the vax on his lunch hour, and was found unresponsive at his workplace 4 hours later.
He is in hospital, now awake, but paralyzed on one side and has lost his ability to speak.
Diagnosed with CVST (cerebral venous sinus thrombosis). Others, both here in the U.S. and in Europe, have been dx’d with CVST post-vax.
Also reported in the dailymail(dotcom) today: 21 year old white male student at University of Cleveland was found dead in his dorm room the day after getting the vax.
The unwashed masses arriving daily on our southern border are our REPLACEMENTS.
Too few people understand that what we are staring at is 100% evil.
Please Pray to God for Mercy and forgiveness.
DeSantis is Trump 2.0.
Everybody in the media has received the memo.
Dr Richard M Fleming: On the vaccines and misinformation about Cov2
https://rumble.com/vfm26p-dispelling-misinformation-about-sars-cov-2-and-the-vaccines..html
One of the points I was grateful to hear, was an explanation of the action of the various injections. Two of them we know are mRNA gene therapy devices. But two of them are actually double strand DNA injections. This is a very interesting lecture and the science is solid enough and well enough explained, that anyone should be able to fact-check the claims, look it up or ask unbiased expert (if there are any left) on any of his points.
In this presentation Dr. Richard M. Fleming will cover 10 important topics to better you with the information you need to know when someone talks to you about vaccines.
1. SARS-CoV-2(+/sense) ssRNA virus
2. Why is the SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein so important
3. What is the purpose of a vaccine?
4. How mRNA in the Pfizer & Moderna vaccines work
5. How the DsDNA in the Janssen (Johnson&Johnson) and the AstraZenica (Oxford) vaccines work.
6. How do we know if a vaccine is producing the desired immune response?
7. What is vaccine Efficacy (VE)?
8. How often do the vaccines Work Compared with receiving No vaccine?
9. What the vaccines can actually claim
10. What the vaccines cannot claim.
THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. In the comments under the Rumble video (you must log in to see them) there is ref to another webpage that has an even more awesome 2.5 hour presentation by Dr. Fleming on this subject. In addition there is a link that goes to a video where Dr. Fleming describes the horrific persecution he has been working under where the Deep State has tried to crush him under false charges and extreme harassment (sound familiar?).
That the DS has so fervently attempted to silence him MUST mean he is VERY credible.
Dr. Fleming’s longer presentation: “The Covid-19 Experimental Drug Vaccines are DANGEROUS – The Call for a Second Nuremberg Trial”. is located here:
https://rumble.com/vfnwc1-the-covid-19-experimental-drug-vaccines-are-dangerous-the-call-for-a-second.html
Here is the link to the video about the Deep State’s persecution of him and other truth tellers:
https://thenewamerican.com/top-doc-on-persecution-of-truth-tellers-in-medicine/
The reason is so Democrats can demand 100% mail in ballots across the land and continue the fraud.
No wonder Fort Pelosi is still erected. They fear the people because they know that we know…..
Has anyone asked the obvious question which is how will we know the vaccines are working if we continue wearing masks and distancing?
it’s called seroprevelance data.
and yes, NO ONE IS COLLECTING IT.
or publishing it.
we just have to assume the vaccines works…right?
just assume it.
does that sound like good science to you?
doctor: we think you might get sick so we are going to use this experimental drug on you
me: has it ever been used
doc:. no
how will we know if it works: we assume it, and you’ll just have to trust our assumptions
me: I think I’ll get a second opinion.
doc: but everyone is doing it.
me: that doesn’t impress me at all.
In Ohio we have RINO Dewine, who’s telling people to wear a mask even if they’re vaccinated! Really? Hope he’s not running again! I had to hold my nose when I voted for him the 1st time!
I’m in Ohio and I can’t stand him.
Same here. When is he going to ban Vaccine Passports!
I sent him and my state leaders an email via Act for America.
I haven’t heard a word of anyone talking about banning passports!
He is also for more restrictions on our 2nd amendment rights.
He has already demonstrated that he believes in restricting our 1st amendment rights by dictating the restrictions.
DeSantis is a rock star and his got a spine of steel. He’s smart. He’s an effective governor. He’s serve in the military. I will vote for him for POTUS in 2024 if he runs.
He can run in 2028.
Florida has to keep him as Gov until his full term is up.
How else is the rest of the US gonna find out what the meaning of “Good Governor” is?
Sounds like the good Governor is on our side. That’s why the target is on his back.
President Trump saw to it that Creepy Bill Gates’s vaccine was upstaged with another brought to market. This stopped BG’s version of ethnic cleansing from morphing.
Thus, these vaccines are propagandized to not stop shutdowns and masks so the mad non-scientist scientist can get his “vaccine” into the masses.
Interesting…
“If you get a vaccine, and the vaccine is effective, your immune; and so act immune.” “If you tell people the opposite then, gee, why if it’s not effective for them, and it doesn’t change anything for them, then why go through it?”
Answer: it isn’t about Coronavirus, it’s about control. Let them inject you with a DNA altered vaccine and they still want you under complete control. Think about the power-mad Democrat end game. It’s all about control baby. And maybe a little fear for those who don’t see through the “game”. Think about Faux-Xi’s non-answer to Jim Jordan. He can’t answer Jordan’s question because a) he’s clueless, b) he’s controlled and c) he wants desperately to remain the highest paid employee in the government!!
That’s my Governor..
Thanks be to God.
AMEN
Seriously, are the “vaccines” (mRNA agents) truly effective? Has that been irrefutably scientifically proven??
Are the vaccines proven to be MORE effective than achieving natural herd immunity had it been allowed to occur in the U.S.?
The answer to all these question is NO.
That’s where DeSantis loses me. He apparently buys into the untested (those who have been and plan to be “vaccinated” ARE the lab rats) and as yet FDA-unapproved “vaccine” hype.
They are not effective.
What is becoming daily more effective is ordinary herd immunity.
The vaccinators are attempting to claim credit for what herd immunity is achieving.
You know, just like DementoRats are trying to claim credit for everything PDJT accomplished.
Macro, micro, same thing…
Absolutely correct, Steph_gray.
There is significant evidence of this that has been presented in multiple videos by highly engaged doctors and experts in the virus and vaccine field. Not just hearsay or vague generalizations, but very specific evidence and research that is not new but the results of which have already been established as fact.
The Left has lied to us about EVERYTHING. Why on this Earth would anyone believe ANYTHING they assert and insist as being true?? The Left are willing agents of Satan – the Great Deceiver, the Master Liar.
Please tune into Clay Clark’s Freedom Conference in Tulsa, OK.
Many speakers such as General Mike Flynn, Mike Lindell, Sidney Powell, Mike Adams, Lin Wood, Dr. Simone Gold many others. How to fight back against the creeping tyranny.
Tune in now on brighteon.com or rhema.tv
In Dr. Simone Gold’s talk today, she said the Frontline Doctors now have a legal team that is helping with citizen’s medical rights in regard to vaccines and masks. Here is the link to their portion of the AFLDRS website:
https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org/legal-2
Holly Shi$ …..what is this insanity? Vaccines are for people who want to avoid getting sick? Such malarkey, everyone knows you get a vaccine so pop culture judges you favorably.
When you read about over 2000 people dying within 24 hrs of being injected (CDC adverse effects reporting) why get this garbage injected into you ?
Or a 78 yr old man who’s skin turned turnip red J&J vaccine and skin peeling like he walked on the sun. Why should anyone get this injected ?
“skin peeling like he walked on the sun” LOL!!! Fantastic imagery, Sanjac!!
Granted, Governor DeSantis is probably the best thing going as far as conservatives are concerned. The problem I have is this virus, it’s timing, it’s intent, the draconian measures that have been taken around it along with the fact that no vaccine has ever been developed to fight a virus are all troubling. For DeSantis to endorse the vaccine gives me pause.
Exactly the same question I have. Bills stadium, they want 100% capacity of only vaccinated people who supposedly aren’t even immune.
I’m not sticking the whole spike protein in my veins, that’s like injecting COVID into my blood stream as far as I’m concerned, with a crapshoot of all the potential side effects, as well as long term effects and alterations.
“Vaccine passport” is the most implausible thing, there is no promised immunity.
I’ll rely on my prophylactics and therapeutics if necessary.
The latest vaccine buzz I am hearing is that it may not be effective after 6 monts and you may have to continue getting booster shots.
Yeah, right.
What a TOTAL CROCK full of stinky poo.
Don’t fear the virus, it’s most likely not going to kill you. What does not kill you makes you stronger, this ‘super bug’ will make you stronger without a vaccine. With? The way governments are pushing this crap, I’d say it will kill you.
Concern should be directed at anything government.
They are the hand puppet of globalist corporations.
They are a run away segment of our society and need to be pruned from any support.
You may ask questions.
You may not question the answers.