Saturday July 11th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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110 Responses to Saturday July 11th – Open Thread

  1. citizen817 says:


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  3. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    The One True Church

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam

    Religious people — even sincere Christian people — may divide themselves into various denominations or churches, but there is no indication in the Bible that God recognizes these divisions. Indeed, God makes it abundantly clear that in His sight there is but one Church, composed of all who truly trust in the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior. In I Cor. 12:12,13 the Apostle Paul declares by divine inspiration:

    “For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ:


    Again, in Rom. 12:5, he says:


    Indeed, it is on the basis of the fact that there is but “one body” in God’s sight that He exhorts us to seek to “keep the unity of the Spirit”:


    “THERE IS ONE BODY….” (Eph. 4:3,4).

    How can we become members of that “one Body ,” the true Church? Ephesians 2 explains how Christ died for all, Jew and Gentile alike, “that He might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross…” (Ver. 16). Indeed the Epistles of St. Paul show how God “hath concluded… all in unbelief that He might have mercy upon all” (Rom. 11:32), and offer to them reconciliation and salvation by grace through faith in Christ who died for our sins.

    The question, then, is not: What church do you belong to? but, Do you belong to the Church, the Body of Christ, composed of all who have acknowledged themselves to be sinners in the sight of God and have trusted in Christ and His finished work for salvation?

    1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
    13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

    Romans 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

    Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
    4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

    Ephesians 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

    Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

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    • GB Bari says:

      One God, One Church in Christ.

      Now if we could just get all the preachers to agree on what’s written in the Bible……..

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      • dreamguardian007 says:

        “Now if we could just get all the preachers to agree on what’s written in the Bible……..”

        Unfortunately, that’s become like getting Conservatives and Leftists to agree on what the Constitution says. (Not to elevate the Constitution, although I do believe it to be divinely inspired, to Holy Scripture.)

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  4. Garrison Hall says:

    What I like about Tuba Skinny is they all, and this is especially true of their singer Erika Lewis, give the impression of having only recently teleported in from about 1910 or so . . .

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  5. Garrison Hall says:

    Happy Caterday!!

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  6. F.D.R. in Hell says:


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    • czarowniczy says:

      I liked the weather channel I was watching trying to make a meal out of the storm. It showed a NE beach with some low speed, wind driven waves slouching up the shoreline under storm clouded sky. A plastic yellow trash barrel was slowly rolling back and forth in the water where the waves met the shore. Under the video was the scroll: ‘TROPICAL STORM KNOCKS OVER BARREL!’ Appears the bar for the definition of ‘crisis event’ has been lowered.

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    • rah says:

      Ah, well, there will be more. Overall conditions are similar in many ways to 2005 and that was the year Katrina hit and set a record for Atlantic Hurricane numbers. The season hasn’t really started yet and we have already used “F”.

      That fact should be ingested with the understanding that storms nowadays are being named that would never have been named even 10 years ago. But still, all indications so far is that that this will be a more active than average season.

      Fact is that in the age of ever improving weather satellites we are seeing more storms than we did before. In the age of ever improving and increasing radar coverage and an ever increasing population that is spread out over this nation like never before we are also identifying far more tornadoes than before.

      NOAA has tried to mathematically account for this by producing and adjusted tornado count in an attempt to try and make so past records of incidence, frequency, and intensity can be compared to more recent records. But for Hurricanes there has been no adjustment so when you hear the weather people try to make comparisons to the past one must realize they aren’t being honest unless they point out those facts.

      Too make matter worse, the Saffir- Simpson scale numbers that they’re using are not the same as they used to be. The way Saffir-simpson was measured was based only on windspeed as measured by a certified station that was unmasked by buildings or topography at 10 meters above surface level. Classification of storm in the Saffir-simpson scale was based only on the highest windspeed sustained for 1 minute. Now they are using various other data and especially barometric pressure to determine the Saffir-simpson category number. They are also doing post storm damage analysis and changing the Saffir-simpson category number months after the face based on that. Further, over time as the technology has improved so has the data the sensors the Hurricane hunters drop into the storms provide and on top of that they are constantly tweaking the formulas by which they analyze and quantify that data.

      BTW there has still been no hurricane that has hit the US that has come close to causing the death toll that the storm that hit Galveston in 1900 did. That storm arched up through Texas through Oklahoma and kept going and even killed people in Canada! Estimates of the death toll run up to 12,000!

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  7. nimrodman says:

    Happy Caturday, y’all

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  8. Lucille says:

    It’s Caturday!

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  9. nimrodman says:

    Supercell near Leoti, Kansas by @markokorosecnet

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    • GB Bari says:

      I sincerely hope that happens on a large scale.

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      • I believe the NFL lost a lot of fans recently over their alignment with BLM fanatics. I, for one, won’t be participating or otherwise watching the NFL anymore. Though still, it’s very nearly an all black league, not surprising the NFL aligned with BLM. No choice really.

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        • sturmudgeon says:

          Buck… There is always a choice… difficult to figure that all of these healthy, athletic bodies having no backbones, isn’t it?

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        • rah says:

          No NFL or NBA for me despite the fact that my families business has 4 season tickets for the Colts and the seats are excellent. I long for the old days when real men took the field outside and battled. Glad I’m old enough to remember the old days with all the great players.

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          • nimrodman says:

            rah, that’s a concrete sacrifice you’re making in giving up those seats, kudos to you

            it’s easy for me, I only ever watched on tv occasionally, superbowl and couple games a year


        • GB Bari says:

          IMHO if the NFL wanted to *genuinely* support their black players, they’d point out the hypocrisy in BLM’s narrow focus on a few men who resisted arrest and were killed in the process, and total disregard for the hundreds of innocent black lives murdered every month by other blacks in DemonRAT cities.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Saints are in a tizzy as the issue of how many bodies they can get into the Dome still isn’t settled and a lot of potential seat-warmers are questioning whether they want to pay for season tickets. Plans are for the first eight rows of seats to be covered while masks may be mandatory, seating limited, no word on concession stands and Saints players just keep on a Tweeting BLM scree.

        Gayle Benson (owner of the Saints) also owns the iconic New Orleans Dixie Beer brewing company and, not to be outdone, without any prompting has announced she’s changing the name of Dixie Beer to something else. She says that since ‘some people’ (undefined) may relate the name Dixie the bad old slavery-holding South she doesn’t want the beer associated as such. No indications as to what the new name will be, suggestions are being taken, but already a number of folks have said they won’t buy it and some venues may stop carrying it.

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    • Sepp says:

      “anti-racism” versus “sportsball”

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    • Jim in TN says:

      BLM = anti police, anti flag, anti America, riots, looting, killing blacks, destroying black businesses, destroying businesses that serve blacks and that hire blacks, subjugating whites and a Marxist Revolution.

      In short Black Misery is the tool BLM is creating to use in starting their Marxist Revolution.

      The one thing proven not to matter to BLM is Black Lives.

      Blacks need to separate the important meaning of the words from the malicious actions done in the name of those words. Failure will do great harm to everyone because the phrase will always be tarnished by the malice.

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    • dreamguardian007 says:

      The XFL should jump in and start playing ASAP; same for MLB. Huge opportunities to increase fan bases.


  10. Lucille says:

    “With Or Without You” (U2) performed by
    2CELLOS (Stjepan Hauser & Luke Sulic)
    Live at Arena di Verona, May 2016

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  11. Dora says:

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  12. Paul Cohen says:

    Here is an example of how horrible and inadequate the alleged “reforms” of the Chris Wray FBI must be…. they still have not outed, disgraced, and prosecuted this guy, who not only appears to have been one of the worst perps in the whole “Crossfire Hurricane” b.s. but is also supposed to be a “Professor of Spying Ethics” for current and potential FBI and other national security agents…. i.e., fox guarding the henhouse. This guy is SCUM but is allowed to be a “Professor of Spying Ethics” and a “Supervisory Intelligence Analyst” — that is how ####ed up our govt is!!

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    • GB Bari says:

      This man Auten should be investigated by white hats to include all communications with him beginning at least in 2015. He is obviously much more deeply connected than admitted. But with whom?

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  13. Dora says:

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  16. Gary Lacey says:

    Recent event have led me to conclude that Satan has been released, ‘letting grown men use little girls restrooms”…LGBT…#BLM.
    In Ezekiel Chap 36, 37 describes Israel’s return to the promised land.
    Ezekiel 38 gives the time line…..””8 After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword,….

    Rev 20″1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

    2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

    3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

    8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.””

    My contention is, Satan has been loosed.


  17. TwoLaine says:

    RSVP’s required by 20 Jul 2020!

    ANNOUNCING! 4th Annual Frogleg Cookout, Aug 1- RSVP ASAP
    by Joe Dan Gorman
    20 Jun 2020

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  18. just stevie says:


    “That I may know Him.” Phil. iii. 10

    The initiative of the saint is not towards self-realization, but towards knowing Jesus Christ. The spiritual saint never believes circumstances to be haphazard, or thinks of his life as secular and sacred; he sees everything he is dumped down in as the means of securing the knowledge of Jesus Christ. There is a reckless abandonment about him. The Holy Spirit is determined that we shall realize Jesus Christ in every domain of life, and He will bring us back to the same point again and again until we do. Self-realization leads to the enthronement of work; whereas the saint enthrones Jesus Christ in his work. Whether it be eating or drinking or washing disciples’ feet, whatever it is, we have to take the initiative of realizing Jesus Christ in it. Every phase of our actual life has its counterpart in the life of Jesus. Our Lord realized His relationship to the Father even in the most menial work. “Jesus knowing…that He was come from God, and went to God…took a towel…and began to wash the disciples’ feet.”

    The aim of the spiritual saint is “that I may know Him.” Do I know Him where I am today? If not, I am failing Him. I am here not to realize myself, but to know Jesus. In Christian work the initiative is too often the realization that something has to be done and I must do it. That is never the attitude of the spiritual saint, his aim is to secure the realization of Jesus Christ in every set of circumstances he is in.

    Oswald Chambers
    July 11th Devotional

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  19. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day for Saturday, July 11, 2020

    “Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all the earth: make a loud noise, and rejoice, and sing praise.”
    Psalms 98:4 (KJV)

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  20. Sepp says:

    . . . but deliver us from the Evil One.

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  21. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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    • That means you think she will be alive to name anyone………..


      • Right to reply says:

        I believe she will be alive


        • Right to reply says:

          Deleted Online, I found a cached copy –
          David Wassong Political Contributions in 2016
          Name & Location Employer/Occupation Dollar
          Amount Date Primary/
          General Contibuted To
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management, Llc/Co-Head, Private Equity $10,000 09/20/2016 P ANNA THRONE-HOLST VICTORY FUND
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management Llc/Co-Head, Private Equity $10,000 09/20/2016 P ACTBLUE
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 $1,000 01/12/2016 P ACTBLUE
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management/Co-Head, Private Equity $1,000 01/12/2016 P MISSOURIANS FOR KANDER – Democrat
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management Llc/Co-Head, Private Equity $2,000 08/12/2015 P HILLARY FOR AMERICA – Democrat
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management Llc/Co-Head, Private Equity $2,700 06/23/2015 P FRIENDS OF ANNA THRONE-HOLST – Democrat
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management Llc/Co-Head, Private Equity $2,700 06/23/2015 G FRIENDS OF ANNA THRONE-HOLST – Democrat
          WASSONG, DAVID
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management Llc/Partner, Private Equity $5,400 06/23/2015 P ACTBLUE
          WASSONG, DAVID MR.
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management Llc/Co-Head Private Equity $2,700 06/19/2015 P JEB 2016, INC. – Republican
          WASSONG, DAVID MR.
          NEW YORK, NY
          10065 Soros Fund Management Llc/Co-Head Private Equity $500 01/07/2015 P RIGHT TO RISE USA


      • auscitizenmom says:

        I think she will live………but, ONLY if she will name Pres. Trump as a customer.


  22. LizzieinTexas says:

    I just submitted an adoption application for this lil girl.

    If all goes as planned she will be the little sister to my 15 mo old Frankie.

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  23. Кomrade Яetslag says:

    “New York, New York”
    Frank Sinatra sang “New York, New York,” and provided a very admiring picture of that city. “Greatest city in the whole world,” he sang. New York indeed was the place where many wanted to be the “King of the hill, top of the heap . . .” Or, “If I can make it there, I can make it anywhere,” implying that New York was the most competent, thriving, and happy place on earth. A utopia?

    No. Absolutely not in any way. New York has become just like all other big cities run by Democrats, an “Urban Hellhole.” The tax burden of New Yorkers alone is enough to cause many notables, like President Trump, and Rush Limbaugh to move out.

    I wonder if Sinatra would want to “be a part of it” now, with Mayor DeBlasio’s failures to mitigate the COVID-19 pandemic. The spread of the virus in the subways, and placing infected patients in nursing homes, are two poignant examples.

    Or take for instance DeBlasio’s early failure to deploy the police in a timely manner to control Antifa and BLM looting and destruction. Or his cutting the NYPD budget by a billion dollars.

    Would Sinatra’s “vagabond shoes” now “long to stray – right through the very heart of it” – now, with Macy’s destroyed, and Sak’s 5th Ave wrapped in concertina wire, and Broadway shut down?

    I guess if he were in New York today, Sinatra would truly want to “never sleep,” because if he did, he would probably get robbed. . . .


  24. If it is “politically correct” for BLACK Lives matter to boycott Goya Foods because they do not like what its CEO said – is it “politically correct” for me to boycott all BLACK OWNED business because I do not like what BLM says?


  25. Susie says:

    Common cold is testing positive for COVID-19 unless they use the deep deep swab test.


  26. Bill Dumanch says:

    Wear that mask.
    Does ANYONE need MORONS with 28% less O2
    Going to their tiny tiny brains?
    96% of ALL new ‘cases’ in AZ and TX are
    US Citizens!
    Take a knee…to another man?
    Only to Our Lord…
    Amen. Sundance & Co., be well it’s 108 at 11:30!


  27. Right to reply says:

    I see Tucker Carlson has been fired from Faux News


  28. rah says:

    Truckers report.
    Busy as can be. Tons of trucks on the road even on Saturday. This week for five days work I earned $1,930.00 + per diem. Two runs from Anderson, IN to the north side of Kansas City up by the airport hauling Toyota replacement parts to a distribution center then picking up waste spices at Lever Brothers in Independence, MO for my back haul, and a run from Anderson, to Indianapolis, to Romulus, MI and back to Anderson for Leer Logistics.

    This morning at 01:00 EDST I woke up at the TA truck stop in Oak Grove, MO about 20 miles east of KC on I-70. After using the facilities in the truck stop, using my electric razor, brushing my hair and getting generally cleaned up I brushed my teeth with bottled water as I walked around the rig and did my pre-trip inspection, then drove home with 21,000 lb. of spices in bulk bags I had picked up at Lever Brothers in Independence, MO bound for a recycler in Ohio. Turned in the paperwork and dropped the trailer at our terminal in Anderson, IN at about 11:00 EDST.

    Then fueled the truck, cleaned the windshield and mirrors, did a post trip inspection, greased the fifth wheel, dumped my trash, sprayed the fabric surfaces with Febreeze, and parked it and signed off my Samsara electric log system, plugged in my phone head set to charge and grabbed my to go back and bag with dirty laundry and went home.

    From what I’m seeing the democrats are failing in their efforts to keep this economy tamped down. They’re hurting the little guy but the big boys are going gang busters.

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  29. pacnwbel says:

    Thoughts after reading many articles re Co vid. The statistics are so messed up that there seem to be no reliable numbers that relate to deaths, actual illness or just asymptomatic post testing. At a time when testing is being pushed like crazy, how do we know that the test is not producing false positive results?
    How do we know if the testing might actually be spreading the infection more widely?
    What we do know is that doctors have been told to sign death certificates as Co vid victims however tenuous the connections to inflate the numbers.
    We also know that wearing masks depletes the oxygen level and the mask becomes a Petri dish the longer it is worn. Cloth masks are useless as airborne pathogens can pass freely through the fibers. Selling masks has suddenly become a fashionable industry.The social aspects of all this behavior modification are affecting people’s psyche adversely, not to mention the frightening economic turn around from forced job loss, businesses closing possibly forever, and a lasting distrust of all aspects of officialdom. We have not been well served by the promoters of this disease and their sycophants in public office. We the people do not have to put up with this, but first and foremost we must seek out the truth then make our decisions.


    • auscitizenmom says:

      I have seen more than one doctor or other health person say that no matter what someone dies of, if the test shows COVID that is what is put on the death certificate. They want high numbers and they are willing to kill people to get them. ” we must seek out the truth then make our decisions.”

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  30. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You. Also, we pray for Angels to protect and support our Sundance as he works for justice and peace.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  31. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  32. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on the miraculous healing of the ten lepers (Luke 17: 12):

    1. How the Lord heard the prayers of the ten leprous men and healed them by the power of His word.
    2. How the Lord can heal me also, a spiritual and moral leper, if I cry out to Him.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau).

    Today is June 28th on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church and July 11th on the civil or commercial calendar.


  33. SanJac says:

    This is the evil we now have to eradicate from this country.

    Daniel Navarro was suspected of using his father’s 2004 Dodge pickup to swerve into oncoming traffic and kill a motorcyclist July 3. The victim was later identified as 55-year-old Phillip Thiessen, a Marine veteran and retired law enforcement officer. Navarro told officials that he intentionally struck Thiessen head-on because he was white, Fond du Lac deputies said in a press conference, according to Fox News.

    Thiessen spent his law enforcement career fighting crimes against children and was known to volunteer at a local food pantry, Fox reported. The former public servant died in the street after his bike went airborne and rescue personnel weren’t able to resuscitate him.

    A memorial has been placed on #Winnebago Dr for retired officer #PhillipThiessen who died after authorities say his motorcycle was intentionally hit by a pickup truck on July 3rd.

    — Christine Flores (@CFlorestv) July 9, 2020
    Navarro is facing both first degree murder and hate crime charges for the incident. He alleges his white co-workers “poisoned” him “because he is Mexican,” according to a criminal complaint obtained by Fox 6.

    The suspected killer “picked a motorcycle because he wanted the person to die” and “white people drive motorcycles,” he told deputies the day of the crash, the local outlet reported.

    Prosecutors also said Navarro mentioned President Donald Trump and told them, “if Trump and white people are going to create a world like we are living in, then he has no choice and people are going to have to die,” according to Fox 6.


  34. Lucille says:

    And this is what my two cats are saying to me right now…

    …it’s time to close up shop. Have a great rest of your evenings, Treepers! Caturday is almost done.

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  35. SanJac says:

    Another corrupted example of the NIH giving money to the CCP and the talent programs in universities and research facilities in this country.

    A rheumatology professor and researcher with strong ties to China has been ordered held without bond to face a charge of grant fraud for not disclosing that he was engaged in a sophisticated scheme to use approximately $4.1 million in grants from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to develop China’s expertise in the areas of rheumatology and immunology. He is also charged with making false statements about maintaining employment in China at the same time he was employed at universities in the United States, including The Ohio State University.

    Song Guo Zheng, 57, was arrested Friday, May 22, 2020, after he arrived in Anchorage, Alaska, aboard a charter flight and as he prepared to board another charter flight to China. When he was arrested, he was carrying three large bags, one small suitcase and a briefcase containing two laptops, three cellular telephones, several USB drives, several silver bars, expired Chinese passports for his family, deeds for property in China and other items.

    “Yet again, we are faced with a professor at a U.S. University, who is a member of a Chinese Talent Plan, allegedly and deliberately failing to disclose his relationship with a Chinese university and receipt of funds from the Chinese Government in order to obtain millions of dollars in U.S. grant money designed to benefit the health and well-being of the people of the United States — not to be hijacked to supplement the research goals of the Chinese Communist Party,” said Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers. “This case, like too many others, should serve as a reminder that the United States Government takes seriously the obligation of truthfulness and transparency on grant applications, and those who violate the law to benefit China or any other foreign nation will be held accountable.”

    “This case highlights another example of a Chinese Talent Plan member allegedly using U.S. taxpayer funds for the benefit of the Chinese government,” said Alan E. Kohler, Jr, Assistant Director of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division. “According to the criminal complaint, Zheng violated laws concerning the use of federal research funds and did not disclose his employment in China. The FBI will continue to work with our partners to stop such illegal activity and protect U.S. research.”

    “We allege that Zheng was preparing to flee the country after he learned that his employer had begun an administrative process into whether or not he was complying with rules governing taxpayer-funded grants,” said David M. DeVillers, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Ohio. “This is our office’s third recent case involving the illegal transfer of intellectual property and research to China. This underscores our commitment to work with the FBI, the Department of Health and Human Services, and our research institutions to protect our country’s position as a global leader in research and innovation, and to punish those who try to exploit and undermine that position.”

    “The taxpayers of the United States are the real victims when researchers defraud our government and exploit our system to benefit China,” stated FBI Cincinnati Special Agent in Charge Chris Hoffman. “The cutting-edge technologies that are being developed in our country must be carefully protected from our foreign adversaries and the FBI will continue to work with our partners to safeguard these important innovations.”

    A criminal complaint filed May 23 and unsealed following today’s detention hearing charges Zheng with one count of fraud or bribery concerning programs receiving federal funds, a crime punishable by up to ten years in prison, and one count of making false statements, which is punishable by up to five years in prison. Magistrate Judge Elizabeth Preston Deavers ordered Zheng held without bond because he is a flight risk. The case will be presented to a federal grand jury for possible indictment. The investigation is continuing.

    An affidavit filed with the complaint alleges that, since 2013, Zheng has been participating in a Chinese Talent Plan, a program established by the Chinese government to recruit individuals with knowledge or access to foreign technology intellectual property. Since then, Zheng has used research conducted in the U.S. to benefit the People’s Republic of China. Zheng allegedly failed to disclose conflicts of interest or his foreign commitments to his U.S. employers or to the NIH.

    Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers, U.S. Attorney DeVillers, and Christopher Hoffman, Special Agent in Charge, FBI, Cincinnati Field Division announced the criminal complaint. Assistant U.S. Attorneys Douglas W. Squires and Courter Shimeall, Special Assistant U.S. Attorney Christopher St. Pierre, and Trial Attorney Matthew J. McKenzie with the Department of Justice National Security Division are representing the United States in this case.


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