June 29th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1257

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1,183 Responses to June 29th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1257

  1. CTH Fan says:

    This “President Trump May Step Down” narrative needs to be stopped. The only way to do that is for the President to step up and set the record straight.

    ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. prove it or fire the aide that spread the story.

    I do not think the President has come this far and fought so many battles to merely slink away and step down. He surely has to realize that they will destroy him if he does. It is one thing to lose an election, it is quite another to back away from the fight.

    They will show him no mercy. Most of all they will show the citizens no mercy.

    Stay Strong Mr. President. Never Give Up and Never Give In.

    Don’t you think it strange if, as a previous poster stated, that President Trump plays golf with Lindsey Graham this weekend and now this? He surely has to know how Graham feels about Joe Biden. Something fishy going on here.

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    • Free Speech says:

      Yeah, he doesn’t need to step down. If he gets to that point, he needs to clean house and go out on his own terms. Publicly tell the GOPe to stick it too.

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    • Dutchman says:

      CTH Fan,
      IMHO,…REALLY? This B.S. is like right after the election, when they started the “DJT had no intention of actually WINNING, he ran as an ego excercise, and will soon resign.”

      Its BULLSHIRT, don’t pay any attention, and don’t get distracted. Its rediculous.
      PDJT shouldn’t waste time or energy refuting it, and we shouldn’t either.

      Stay STRONG, stay DETIRMED and FOCUSED.

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    • cheryl says:

      We heard the same ole stuff in 2016. They’re just recycling the old talking points.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Your Tour Guide says:

        In retrospect, it was the Never Trumpers that actually started
        the pile on before the MSM and dems started their crucifixion.

        Remember all the stories about how Trump was in on it so that
        Hillary would win? Do you think that the dems came up with those?

        And, all the people that I had to convince that were against him
        because he didn’t pass the “Conservative Purity Test”. Does that
        sound like the dems?

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    • boogywstew says:

      President Trump may step down … in 2025 … may!

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    • Paul says:

      Laughable concept

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    • Tornorosa says:

      Good Grief! Don’t water the fake plants

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  2. helmhood says:

    Something else to consider. Political novice and Washington outsider Donald Trump was able to stop Clinton, the DNC, Soros and the global media from stealing the 2016 election. We all know they cheated, they could not have tried harder. From double voting in Michigan, to absentee ballots and ineffective recount scams, they all failed.

    To think President Trump, now with all the levers of government and law enforcement at his disposal, is not going to be able to handle democrat fraud this year?

    The President is not incompetent. Anyone who suggests otherwise is a gullible fool.

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      Yes, the president is not incompetent, but “all the levers of government’ really means very little. This government is full (FULL) of Deep Staters that want him gone. He has very few allies. The DOJ, the State Dept., and many, if not most, other agencies in the executive branch have masses of people who are against him. They are long-term federal employees who cannot easily be removed and work tirelessly at helping to rid the nation of President Trump. The other two branches of our government aren’t any better. In the Senate and House only about 10% of Republicans actually support the president. The rest only support him if they have to.

      So, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for people to think that POTUS is in a tough place. However, I also don’t see him as a quitter. He doesn’t have a history of walking away. And, if he loses and the left takes over we will see Marxists controlling our country and our freedoms gone. They will work to rid the nation of Trump supporters and the president and his family will be destroyed (and by that I mean they will ultimately hunt them down like wild animals, just as they do in other Marxist takeovers of countries). President Trump is in a position where he has to fight because he has no choice. Everyone should know what Marxists, when they take over a country, do to those who opposed them.

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  3. MILupper says:

    New Probable Covid counting. 2 minor symptoms, headache and subjective fever whatever that is among others, now counted as positive and added to state numbers.

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    • Free Speech says:

      Living proof that Abbott is a Bushie Snake. Does he not have authority over these State Health policy people? Seems like he’s coordinating with them instead.

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    • California Joe says:

      Okay….Who is in charge of the CDC? We can’t blame Obama for what’s going on now!

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    • TPW says:

      Too many contradictions in what we have been told…..to believe this whole increase is contrived. Heat is suppose to kill it…not….most cases are young people with mild symptoms? Who knows any young people who would go to the doctor or go get tested that have mild to no symptoms….they wouldn’t waste their precious party time. Most cases are in liberal areas? All I can say is PT needs a third term to get these traitors out of government….and once and for all destroy the Dem party or they will destroy us.Make no mistake we have got to step up or lose everything.

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      • ibobland08 says:

        Many people are required by their jobs to get tested. Just in the past few days, I know two young people that were exposed at work. One was at a hospital, one was at Dunkin Donuts. Neither showed symptoms and their employers required them to get tested.

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        • jane says:

          Our young person is supposed to head to college in Aug. Just announced that in order to move in to dorms they need to be virus tested and show a negative result. Seems excessive and potentially problematic, all things considered. Are others finding too, that testing will be required for their incoming college freshman?

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        There’s likely two strains. One virulent and tied to contact from fecal matter which explains the spike in slaughterhouse workers not just here but in Germany. Also explains ag workers getting it given use of open air and field latrines as well as fertilizers.

        If you look at this carefully – the widespread symptoms and different levels of deadliness – two strains seems most likely. One airborne (the typical cold/flu/asymptotic cases) and one contact – deadlier and tied to contact with fecal matter. This also explains why the CDC epidemiologist teams are taking fecal samples.

        The masks are useless but if they one feel confortable I don’t care if they wear it. I do care if I am forced to wear one bc I do not accept fear as a lifestyle choice or any of this obvious plandemic nonsense. For the other strain practice solid hygiene especially hand washing and cleaning off handles around the house. I also wouldn’t use a grocery cart where children have been allowed to sit inside where the food goes (this trend has driven me crazy for several years now as this is a risk for any fecal born pathogens getting into food supply. Kids aren’t great wipers or washers to be blunt plus their shoes have been outside where there is animal waste in yards, sidewalks etc).

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        • Debra says:

          That would explain the public service announcement of closing the toilet lid before flushing and the sampling from waste systems that have taken place . . .

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    • Dutchman says:

      “Subjective” fever;
      A standard accesment protecol for medical personell is known by the acronym “SOAP”; SUBJECTIVE (What the patient TELLS the Dr. but the Dr. can NOT independantly verify, like symptoms. For instance a headache; there is no way a Dr. can independently confirm you have a headache.
      OBJECTIVE; Those things a Dr. CAN independantly observe, and usually measure; BP, Pulse, range of motion, etc.
      ACCESSMENT and PLAN are the last two.
      So, logically a “Subjective fever” is when a patient TELLS the Dr. they feel feverish, despite a thermometer saying they have no fever.And, whats the OTHER symptom they are adding? OH, YEAH,….HEADACHES. See above.

      So, every hypochondriac out there who now thinks/fears they have got Chi-Flu will be counted as a “presumptive positive”,….not a transparent attempt to jack up the #’s at all, oh no!

      Bizarro world.

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      • Ray Runge says:

        Retired Nurse Practitioner here that included my own walk up clinic. AND attempting not to get lost in hoisting a subjective notation to the top of diagnostic Mt. Everest.

        Any “fever and/or chills” is the subjective question that begins to place a presenting illness in the neighborhood of systemic versus focal in nature. A positive response form a patient is then influenced by what your eyes tell you about the general physical presentation. How much is the patient “off their game”. At times, questions and the physical presentation became 3/4 of diagnostic presentation.

        Dr. Zelenko comes to mind as one of the better known medical/clinical practitioners that recognized presenting symptoms early on in the progression of the illness and had success with HCQ cocktail. AND the HCQ cocktail included both a viral killer and bacterial killer. Few illnesses, viral, bacterial or fungal, ever occur in a systemic fashion in isolation.

        My point now and my point all along is that testing can tell us some things but quickly becomes political versus scientific and testing is also often not central to health care and healing.

        Our medical community in Houston still has not responded with early outpatient address of the COVID and clinicians have not been given a regular formal voice in government / media communication. If subjective symptoms can lead tearily treatment than that is a good thing. If subjective symptoms simply lead to a lock down and a rag over your mouth than so much BS is al.

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        • Judith says:

          Your last two sentences say it all. A lot of LIers were symptomatic in March and April, but were not tested or treated unless they were admitted to the emergency room. That was too late for those at risk for the deadly complication SARS-COV-2.

          Testing was often unreliable anyway. I knew someone who was hospitalized with a high fever, and the doctor ordered several COVID tests before he received a positive result, to commence Hydroxychloroquine treatment.

          Getting enough Zinc into the cells to prevent the rapid replication of Covid-19 and devastation of lung tissue, was key to survival for such patients. Respirators had no effect after the lungs were already destroyed.

          The best result for everyone was to presume a Covid infection at the earliest signs of infection, and then begin treatment with Zinc + Ionophore (Hydroxychloroquine) + Azythromycin.

          Despite haruumphing from purists who insist on years of double-blind scientific trials, while patients drop like flies, those who received *early* treatment with this drug regimen, survived.

          By contrast, these arbitrary shutdowns (some places open, some not) and rags on faces (anything from hospital masks to bandanas) offer no proof for preventing transmission, but will certainly destroy the economy.

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    • sascales says:

      Hmmm, isn’t that strange?! Headaches are a common side effect of wearing a mask. And if you’ve had to wear one, you know it makes your whole head feel hot, kind of like a… subjective fever!

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Is there an official link for the first part of that video?

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  4. henry says:

    Yeah, about facial recognition. Doesn’t work well for Black Americans.

    https://dnyuz.com/2020/06/24/wrongfully-accused-by-an-algorithm/

    Facial recognition systems have been used by police forces for more than two decades. Recent studies by M.I.T. and the National Institute of Standards and Technology, or NIST, have found that while the technology works relatively well on white men, the results are less accurate for other demographics, in part because of a lack of diversity in the images used to develop the underlying databases.

    Last year, during a public hearing about the use of facial recognition in Detroit, an assistant police chief was among those who raised concerns. “On the question of false positives — that is absolutely factual, and it’s well-documented,” James White said. “So that concerns me as an African-American male.”

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    • California Joe says:

      Nobody gets arrested much less convicted on facial recognition alone and it works very well for identifying Black suspects as well as anybody else. I have seen it work on Blacks which coincidentally are about 90% of the ATM and bank surveillance camera suspects with Hispanics making up the balance. All Facial Recognition does is give the LEO a name and address to focus more on. The investigation will then identify the real evidence which is developed from witnesses, subpoenaed bank statements and search warrants for houses and emails as well as social media accounts. The Leftists have been working for years to eliminate all evidence from surveillance cameras because….all Black males look alike to White people which is complete crap but the judges are buying it!

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      Facial recognition databases are now pulled from social media and the algorithms reflect this. This is an outdated argument mostly by people who don’t understand big tech data mining.

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  5. Sherri Young says:

    Chief Justice John Roberts strikes again.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Yes finally a rational response.

      PT should ask for all Americans who believe in this Republic, our Constitution and our freedoms to gather in DC for a “One Nation Under God” or “United We Stand” march whereby Americans of ALL races come together to show the world we do value each other, we can work out our problems together and in the end it is our freedoms and all lives that we hold dearly in this country.

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      • Gary says:

        Doesn’t need to be in D.C. Just one day, in every city and small town across America. United We Stand! Let the MSM try to hide those kind of numbers.

        If he asked us to gather in our communities to show support, we most certainly would.

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        • Dutchman says:

          It will happen, I suspect,….and treepers/patriots need to start preparing for it,…NOW.

          After the election, there WILL be major questions on the outcome, count on it.

          Either the official result will be PDJT won reelection,….
          In which case the Dems will try to remove him by rioting and chaos.

          Or, the official results will say he lost, which we will not accept.

          Either way, we should be prepared to descend on DC, in #’s never before seen in our history. “Million man march”? To HECK with that!
          We will need 10’s of millions, descending on DC, with ropes in their trunks, and their eye on lamposts.

          Pitchforks, shovels and yes 2A at the ready.

          The cry can be as simple as “one if by land, two if by sea”;
          “TRUMP RALLY, D.C.”

          Start preparing,…NOW!

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    • This is a blow to the “racial propagationist”, and could harm the race economy.
      A lot of civil rights workers, politicians, journalist, authors and academics will have no salary if they are solely judged by theIr skills and content of their character.

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  6. Nick the Deplorable says:

    Roberts sides with left again

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  7. Bogeyfree says:

    Things I’d suggest to PT:

    1) Add 3-4 honest medical experts to the Pence team ASAP who also have expertise in data analysis and can share the full picture with the American people down to the State level.

    2) Ignore Fauci and limit his power on the Pence Team

    3) Conduct an independent test and Analysis of the COVID-19 test itself to ensure it is not prone for massive false positives.

    4) Conduct an independent study on if Masks do anything and share with all Americans. When it comes back as they do nothing to stop the spread of CV, put out an EO stating they are not mandatory and Americans are within their rights to not wear.

    5) order a DOJ investigation into the enormous deaths within Nursing Homes as it relates to governors who ordered CV positive people sent into nursing homes.

    6) use the additional medical experts and EO to change the recording of a CV death that it MUST include a positive test result certification by the doctor or medical official and to falsify any test results will result into a criminal investigation.

    7) Conduct an independent study on the merits of hydroxychloroquine plus zinc plus z-pack as an prophylactic treatment early on in fighting CV. Bring in Dr. Zelenko and other reputable doctors who have used this treatment to speak nationally to Americans and put out an EO that Americans can try this treatment if they wish.

    8) Finally use the NSA database and Mr. Grenell in particular to uncover and expose communications of sedition by the DS to undermine this Republic and falsely leverage the CV for nefarious purposes to harm businesses, jobs and Americans along with their multiple coup attempts.

    It is time for PT to go on Offense IMO!

    65% of American knows most of this the CV is total BS.

    When over 50% of all CV deaths are from nursing homes and are allowed to be coded as a CV death for having virtually any small symptom such as a cough or a slight fever shows the fraud IMO.

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    • ladyliberty11 says:

      And start publicizing the spike in COVID-19 in border states due to influx of cases:

      https://cis.org/Bensman/Mounting-Evidence-Points-Covid-Refugees-Mexico-Major-Factor-BorderState-Spikes

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    • numbersixdance says:

      Pence visited Dallas yesterday…promoting masks. He and Abbott need to knock it off if they want to carry the state again. It doesn’t show strong leadership…it promotes weak leadership and submissive behavior to the Demorats.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        Pence and Abbott are Bush shills. They’re swamp creatures. And Abbott sees the wring on the wall and is trying to protect bis own skin – Texas will shortly go blue based on demographics alone.

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      • Tazio Nuvolari says:

        >>He and Abbott need to knock it off if they want to carry the state again.<<

        Texans are not going to sit home of vote Democrat because of wearing or not wearing masks.

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    • Tornorosa says:

      Bfree. I nominate Dr Smith,Laura Ingraham’s ID specialist and @EthicalSkeptic to catch the crooked stats some Dem States push, delayed data dumps, mixed antibody and PCR tests, skewed sampling, cost of Lockdown, etc

      Fauci is a Documented Liar. Shouldn’t be allowed around anything calling itself Science

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      • California Joe says:

        Everytime Dr. Fauci opens his mouth he contradicts something else that he said a few weeks earlier! I stopped watching the guy and his sidekick Brix a long time ago. Both of them must think Americans are stupid and can’t remember critically important statements about Coronavirus past 24 hours!

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    • ibobland08 says:

      It would be very difficult to prove that masks don’t do anything. The best you would be able to show is a lack of evidence of their efficacy.

      I don’t support forcing people to wear masks, but masks have asymmetrical uncertainty – the risk of wearing masks (correctly) are essentially zero, but the potential upsides could be significant. When you have an uncertainty like that, it is smart to wear a mask in the appropriate situation.

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      • Amy2 says:

        The problem is, everyone has a different definition of what the “appropriate situation” is.

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        • ibobland08 says:

          I think that’s why the American people should be trusted to make their own decisions. We aren’t as dumb as they think.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        The psychological impact is what’s the most damaging. The masks are reinforcing a culture of fear and submission to a lying government which then makes you complicit with their lie.

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        • vladdy says:

          Bottom line. The corporate media tried to say that racism was worse than a chance of getting covid — and that was in a population with a higher than normal rate of catching it.

          Well, submission to the state as a matter of course is worse than a chance of getting covid — much more than the narrative of “racism,” which anyone with brains knows just get worse when they keep insisting upon its prevalence.

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      • minnesotamike55 says:

        Pretty easy to prove. State health departments are tracking whether positive cases were wearing a mask or not. Let’s see that data. MN does not publish but admitted they track it. If they are so effective wouldn’t publishing that data justify the left calling for mandatory masks?

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        • ibobland08 says:

          Correlation does not equal causation. It would be impossible to control for other factors. That type of study might be ok for whether or not masks should be mandatory, but it would not be good for whether or not people should wear masks, which is a different question.

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      • Mariposa323 says:

        Upside only significant if it’s an N95 that is properly fitted . Anything else is just well .. placebo at best !

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        • owtolunch says:

          And one without an exhalation valve. Both straps positioned correctly at all times… Re-adjusting the mask defeats purpose of wearing it…. There is no way to self-check N-95 mask performance. Using a probed mask and measuring inside mask and outside mask with a laser condensation nuclei particle counter can provide some indication as to fit.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      Let me add – expose Pence, Fauci and Birx. All the heavy lifting has already been done by people like Amazing Polly

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    • The American Patriot says:

      Um

      Dr Shrimp and the Scarf Queen are no longer onboard and her privately fired by Trump of their duties.So #2 is no longer a worry

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  8. michael r devault says:

    The Supreme Court has five liberal justices and four conservative ones.

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  9. TJ says:

    2003 Dead Zone TV show, Coronavirus Episode.

    Masks, Chloroquine, and Quarantines…17 years ago. (3 Min)

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    • Leaving says:

      They get their ideas from Hollywood.

      What they don’t realize is that Hollywood, while good at creating entertaining stories, doesn’t understand reality enough to know what the outcome in the real world will be.

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      • Tornorosa says:

        Probably use them as models to write their media narratives ahead of time, so they have their narratives all lined up after someone pushes the Red Button.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        You have it backwards. Hollywood creates predictive programming because they are the propaganda tool of the deep state and C IA.

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      • TJ says:

        The writers have claimed that the information and research used to make this episode came directly from the CDC, relating to SARS-1.

        Hollywood got the idea from the CDC, they knew about Chloroquine then.

        Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/

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        • vladdy says:

          Makes me crazy to hear today that the gov bought all these doses of the other drug, the one Faucci pushed, mentioning at the end of the story that it will cost $3200 a dose. What a scam, when we know about hydroxychlorquine, which is proven and cheap.

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  10. Drogers says:

    I am not by nature a conspiracy hunter.

    I don’t sit up at night going through the trash of Democratic leaders in hopes of finding a smoking gun. I don’t look for secret handshakes at public events nor think I’ll peruse the Zapruder film and finally spot the man on the grassy knoll.

    However, if anyone wants to discuss the chances of the virus being the devil’s work of the global elite to interfere w/ the election … I’d grab a cup of coffee and let you talk for as long as you’d like.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      No one will ever convince me that there are not capture communications that sit in the NSA database where the DS leadership did not discuss CV and how to leverage it to cause chaos and harm to this country, our economy, businesses, jobs and thus Americans well before March 1.

      We use the NSA database to help track down terrorists who would do harm to America, how is this any different?

      It is time to bring back Mr. Grenell!

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      • Drogers says:

        It’s hard to imagine a better fit than Mr. Grenell and ODNI.

        But Mr. President knows what he’s doing so we’ll have to sit and watch.

        *Director FBI would work just fine as well

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        • Dutchman says:

          A “Better Fit”; Sidney Powell as A.G.
          After reelection, PDJT takes the role of Grennel; that is, HE “thanks Barr for his service” and takes DIRECT control over DOJ, which he has full legal and Constitutional authority and obligation to do, (rather than appointing an “acting”).

          Basically, saying to Mitch (like he did with Grennell/Ratcliffe) you can either confirm Sidney Powell, or I will continue running DOJ, personally!

          Fastest confirmation in history, lol.

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          • Drogers says:

            Dutchman –

            Noice!

            In my world – Sidney as AG, Mr. Grenell as Special Assistant at Large {he starts w/ North Korea}, Mr. Flynn as a second National Security Advisor, Mr. Ratcliffe where he’s at {I expect big YUGE things from him there}, Mr. Giuliani as Director FNI.

            Those Patriots would get us in line quick, fast, and in a hurry.

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    • TJ says:

      Coronavirus & WHO – How Bill Gates Monopolized Global Health

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  11. MaineCoon says:

    Once again J. Roberts sides with the liberals. He’s disgusting.

    We need PROOF OF LIFE on RGB. I’m serious.

    This article is behind a paywall but I’ve copied what I had access to.

    FTA: The Supreme Court threw out a restrictive Louisiana abortion law, its first abortion decision since two conservative Trump nominees joined the court.

    Monday, June 29, 2020

    The vote was 5 to 4, with Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. voting with the court’s four-member liberal wing but not adopting its reasoning. The chief justice said respect for precedent compelled him to vote with the majority

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    • sync says:

      In New York, a physician assistant, nurse practitioner, and licensed midwives are authorized to perform abortions. Now regulated by the New York State Education Department. Yes, the Education Department.

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      • sunnyflower5 says:

        It takes a village to rid your child.

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      • Tornorosa says:

        How about euthanasias? I wonder if they are importing H1B’s to do jobs that American doctors just won’t do

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        • Jimmy Jack says:

          Of course they are.

          And let’s not forget those Muslim doctors caught saying this would be their jihad.

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        • Tornorosa says:

          Forgot to add, the Left is like a flood of army ants. When they hit a boulder they go around and keep swarming. I’ve heard school counselors are also flagging kids for ADHD with or without parental consent (called “puttinig them on” ) administered by the school nurse. If you complain, they may send SS to check your refrigerator…All by the Dept of Education. If that no longer worked, they would probably use Dept of Agriculture

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    • thedoc00 says:

      The policy wonk strikes again, by selectively choosing precedent to hide behind. Yet, that precedent does not apply, again. No matter which side of abortion you favor (I am against it), there is nothing in existing case law decisions that addresses medical safety. ALL existing law deals with EQUAL ACCESS only. The Louisianan law does not restrict discriminate and only adds medical safety.

      Roberts in essence now says “coat hanger and back alley” abortions are legal again. If the mother dies, tough luck she chose poorly.

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      • EggsX1 says:

        That is so true!! This case has nothing to do with abortion access, but a state’s power to regulate business and, in this case, medical procedures. Abortion clinics would adjust to new regulations just as any other business does.

        Roberts shows he hates women and is against protecting their health similarly as the liberal justices. How can abortion procedures be free from regulation but every other business (even firearms) be subject to onerous (even business crippling) regulations?

        The ‘Trust the Plan’ people would say this ruling could be used to protect gun rights because of ‘precedent’, but we all know the Supreme Court doesn’t really care about that.

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        • Dutchman says:

          The earlier decision, which Roberts disagreed with, and that he is basing this decision on, was flawed.

          A clinic that does any other kind of outpatient invasive procedures, such as colonoscopies, or plastic surgery, has certain reasonable requirements it must conform to; the Dr having admitting priviledges, having hallways and doors wide enough to accomodate access for ambulance gurneys, being within so many miles of a level one trauma facility, capable of recieving an emergency patient in case something goes wrong, etc.

          Abortion clinics being exempt from such reasonable precautions is absurd, of coarse. And “unequal” treatment under the law.

          Imagine people protesting, because they live in a remote rural area and don’t have access to a plastic surgeon?
          Rediculous!

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        • vladdy says:

          You’d think abortion was in the BOR with a “shall not infringe” written after it.

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      • Amy2 says:

        Why did SCOTUS even take this case if they already decided on such a similar one in Texas?

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    • TPW says:

      If he votes with POTUS over the Tax returns I will be shocked.

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      • Dutchman says:

        TPW,
        Well, other than the bad precedent, I am not concerned about that,…cause there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN the tax returns!

        Given the size of the Trump enterprise, there is a WHOLE LOT of NOTHING, but still nothing.

        His tax returns is the grratest troll of all time,…it beats the original “Trojan horse”, cause that only worked ONCE. He has punked his enemies at least 3 times, with this, and its ongoing.
        1) NYT, during campaign.
        2)Maddow, after election IIRC.
        3)NADLER, continueing to fight for access.

        Hilarious, really.

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    • mayflowerchild says:

      Trump needs to increase the SC to 11. NOT use Heritage Foundation for recommendations. If the Dems ever get power, their plan is to increase it anyway to 11.

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    • The American Patriot says:

      Epstein Island

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  12. TJ says:

    Police charged Nicholas Barrett (pictured) for crimes committed during BLM riots in Nashville.

    He’s been charged w/aggravated rioting, felony vandalism & assault for hitting a man w/a skateboard.

    Barrett posted $50k in bonds & was released from jail twice.

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  13. NJF says:

    M. A. K. E. I. T. S. T. O. P.

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    • auscitizenmom says:

      M. A. K. E. I. T. S. T. O. P. Yes, Please.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Henry says:

      Yes please can taxpayers pay for me please?….
      /sarc.

      Useless mouth breathers and self-mutilators

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    • Rob says:

      Sure, then they can have a womb transplant just to be able to have an abortion.

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    • Debra says:

      Sorry to have to be so blunt, but people who ‘cannot have’ children are being told by ‘nature’ that they aren’t parent material . . .

      But, science fiction is apparently more compelling than science fact.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        Ignorant comment. Fertility and parenting are separate issues. Shame on your ignorance.

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        • Debra says:

          My ignorance? Or nature’s?

          If someone is not fertile, their reproduction facilities are not producing. If someone wants to be a parent who is not fertile, nature is not going to help them.

          But, sure, man’s law will . . .

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          • rvsueandcrew says:

            Reread your first comment. Stating that a woman who cannot bear children may not be able to do so because nature determines her not to be “parent material” is not only ignorant, it is astoundingly cruel. Maybe that wasn’t your intent.

            Flipping your reasoning around….. Then we can conclude that everyone who is able to produce a child is parenting material. After all, nature did “help them” with the process.

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            • Debra says:

              Why is it that nature gets such a bad name when it tells any person they are not parent material (do not have the means for reproducing), yet this original story commenters has the trans person as being ‘against nature for wanting a womb’ and that sentiment is lauded?

              And a BIG jump in reasoning seems to be taking place — Who exactly is equating ‘being a parent’ to ‘being a good parent’ . . .?

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              • rvsueandcrew says:

                Not being “parent material” implies not being good enough to parent. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were trying to say. BTW, “nature” doesn’t have anything to do with three of the causes of infertility in women:

                Overweight
                Infections that are sexually transmitted
                Being exposed to certain types of chemicals

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    • Tornorosa says:

      Are they demanding the military pay for this?

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    • The American Patriot says:

      🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

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  14. snarkybeach says:

    Sidney Powell has been sent to the Twitter gulag:

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  15. sunnyflower5 says:

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    • Free Speech says:

      Can we impeach John Roberts before there is a SCOTUS case on mail-in voting? Gotta know that’s coming.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        It could be done, yet consider who has to bring the charges. November 2018 strikes again. Plus, McConnell would never allow it.

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        • thedoc00 says:

          I am beginning to believe that House Speaker Ryan was a major clause in THE INSURANCE POLICY. Consider how many legislative decisions have to actually have to start in the House. It was actually embarrassing for McConnell and Ryan to not cooperate nor call each other out as they both worked to derail the President at every turn. They had to conceded either the House or the Senate. The republicans chose the House as they knew the Democrat Party were even worse liars than themselves and would renege on any agreement. With the senate they get to control the President and protect themselves.

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          • NJMAGA says:

            And it all has to do with China and the border…all of it.

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          • crikey9 says:

            And his best bud Pence is the other part of it. Never trust Pence…who has headed up the Corona virus debacle, brought us FauxChi, brought us the predictions of 2 million dead…also follow the videos by the Gunners Wife who lipreads the SOTU and how Nancy and Pence were in agreement…did they tryto infect Trump with corona https://youtu.be/4xY6AIrGuj0

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          • Dutchman says:

            thedoc00;
            Welcome to the party. Lets just overlook your a little late, and celebrate that your here.
            When PLANNING the insurance policy, IN THE BEGINNING, and with the goal of removing DJT from office, some things are obvious;
            Politically, and public perception-wise, a Republican majority House COULD NOT initiate impeachment against a sitting Republican President.
            And, Constitutionally an Impeachment MUST begin in the House.
            Ergo, Ryan was “in on” the Coup, from day one, and thats WHY he gifted the Speakers gavel to Pelosi.

            Second, any impeachment in the House, would go no where unless Senate Republicons voted to convict, or actually would SAY they were prepared to vote to convict, to force PDJT to resign, so they didn’t HAVE to actually vote.

            Its modelled on Watergate. Hence, Mueller team engaged in the most outrageous conduct, to try to goad PDJT into firing them, to give Senate Republicons an excuse, a “politically acceptable” excuse, to say they would vote to convict.

            Ergo, Mitch was in on the coup, from day one, as well.

            Otherwise, there is no point in all of the law breaking, to set up the insurance policy in the first place.

            All of those swamp creatures would NEVER have put themselves out there, ruining careers, risking long prison sentences, unless they KNEW, absotutely and positively, that they had Congressional Republicon leaderships blessing.

            There simply is no other explanation. In fact, I am convinced Republicon leadership ORIGINATED the idea, once they realised they couldn’t prevent PDJT from getting the nomination.

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            • HB says:

              Hm. Thanks. I hadn’t really pictured it like that. Now it seems so obvious.

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            • Tornorosa says:

              Well thought out and expressed Dutchman.

              This falls under the Sherlock Holmes dictum that once you eliminate the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the Truth.

              I can’t find anything in the Constitution that says the House and Senate are to be controlled by four people.

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              • Dutchman says:

                But they ARE. Minority and Majority leaders of both Houses; if you ‘have’ them in your ‘pocket’ all the rest is just a kabuki theater, to create the ILLUSION of Representative Democracy, otherwise known as a Republic.
                They control the members, from committee assignmants to office space and staff, whether or not ethics investigations go forward, or not.
                NO ONE wants to get on Mitchs bad side, for instance.

                They control the Judiciary, thru Senate confirmations, and the threat of House impeachments.

                And, even though technically the administrative state is under the Executive, as we have seen the President can’t fire them. Congress dictates the budgets, salaries and perks, and writes the Laws they are charged with enforcing.

                Yes, the President has to SIGN the laws, but we have seen how they get around that, ..

                Over many years, CONgress has subverted our Constitutional Republic, and converted it into a dictatorship, in which public policy is NOT honestly debated, but is instead decided behind closed doors.
                The POTUS became a figurehead, and regardless of party, had largely the same advisors, picked by CONGRESS, laying out his options.

                Until we acknowledge this reality, and confront the Uniparty, we can NOT truly drain the swamp.
                Mitch and Ryan ‘cooked up’ the coup, no doubt with input from McCain and Graham, etc.

                THEY started it, when they realised they could not prevent DJT from gaining the Republican party nomination.

                Yes, “Obama officials” carried it out, but notice how many were Republicans (Mueller, for instance) and how many rose in government under REPUBLICAN administrations.
                Mueller, Rosenstien, Weismann, …Bush put Weismann on the 7th floor of the FBI, for crying out loud!

                Knowing what we know about this band of miscreants, and that Bush PUT them into positions of power, puts Bushies in a whole new light.

                And, McConnell confirmed every one, no doubt.
                Along with Roberts, who things Obamacare is a tax, etc. And Gorsuch, who thinks he can reinterpret “sex” to mean orientation or gender dysphoria, despite legislature who wrote the law in 1965 obviously having no such intention.

                Yeah, got to clean House in the Senate, and not just Mitch, but the whole group, as they have an unofficial “line of succession” in place.

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        • The American Patriot says:

          The Island of Epstein!

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      • simplewins says:

        There wont be anymore SCOTUS decisions after this week until next year.

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    • paper doll says:

      Yup

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    • Summer says:

      I was about to post this tweet, sunny.

      The problem is there is no law, order and safety right now. I would like the campaign to keep pointing out that this is the states’ responsibility to maintain law and order in their cities. That letter to the Chicago’s “leaders” was excellent. Go on offense.

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    • TJ says:

      After a Month of Leftist Rioting, Looting and Arson…

      Trump’s Approval with Black Voters Remains at 28%

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    • doyouseemyvision says:

      As any posters here have mentioned, media polls are a consistent farce. Buyer beware.

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    • owtolunch says:

      There has never been a journal paper published illustrating that the SARs-COV-2 has been isolated and purified

      Tough Reality on COVID Testing!!

      COVID19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless Though the whole world relies on RT-PCR to “diagnose” Sars-Cov-2 infection, the science is clear: they are not fit for purpose.

      Torsten Engelbrecht and Konstantin Demeter June 27, 2020

      “This actually means that one cannot conclude that the RNA gene sequences, which the scientists took from the tissue samples prepared in the mentioned in vitro trials and for which the PCR tests are finally being “calibrated,” belong to a specific virus — in this case SARS-CoV-2.”

      “In addition, there is no scientific proof that those RNA sequences are the causative agent of what is called COVID-19. ”

      “In the “CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel“ file from March 30, 2020, for example, it says:

      “Detection of viral RNA may not indicate the presence of infectious virus or that 2019-nCoV is the causative agent for clinical symptoms”

      And:

      This test cannot rule out diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.”

      And the FDA admits that: “positive results […] do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease.”

      https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/?fbclid=IwAR1PQfQWDSphSi1oQv9wcz4B9MeRZxM4Cnzh2yVFXBPhp-OBo1uSkTXkMfc

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      • Ticonderoga says:

        I read somewhere that analysis of virus types found( corona ) showed some 4 or 5 distinct covid types consistently being found , in addition to covid 19 SARS 2. I’m not sure I grasp the fine points as well as I’d like, but… the original viral genome molecular map released by the Wuhan doctor, the day before they “ disappeared “ him, was published, and followed later by the Chicom government publishing a “map”. Are they the same, and do they match exactly? And, do they match a map of our current covid19-SARS-2 virus?Finally, I have noted mention of at least 30 already-found genetic variations, so far, of the purported Covid19SARS-2 virus. If the PCR test isn’t good, is there a molecular test , or serology, e.g.IgG or IgM test that is specific and accurate?

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        • Tornorosa says:

          Ticonderoga. I’ve been troubled about the science of this also. I’ve heard there are seven variations of SRS-CoV-2 detected in California. Variations allow researchers to know where the pandemic spread from, e.g. The Washington and Northern California variations came directly from Wuhan. The New York and San Diego outbreaks came from Europe via the Middle East.

          Do the PCR viral nucleotide amplification tests pick up one or some or all of these? If so, what are the confidence intervals and positive and negative predictive values that tell how useful they are? I can’t find any for PCR tests on the CDC website.

          Antibody tests (There’s about a dozen of them with Emergency Use Authorizations) are based on Spike or Nucleocapsid (body) proteins or both. Same question. I posted something on the sensitivity and specificity of these with a CDC link last night. A rough answer is 90-95% based on the CDC’s assumption of a 5% incidence.

          We’re measuring some RNA fragments that correlate with the Covid-19 disease constellation, but the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been purified and isolated. There is no scientific Gold Standard scientists can use to satisfy Koch’s Postulates, to prove the cause of an ifectious disease. All we have is the redefined term “Gold Standard” used to refer to the PCR test for some nucleic acid fragments. Chinese know the answer but aren’t showing their cards

          One thing worth mentioning is a nasal swab for PCR is a donation of your DNA and contact info to the National database. Impressive what they’re doing with forensic medicine these days

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          • owtolunch says:

            Truly concerning lack of information forthcoming from the “scientists” at CDC and affiliated Universities. No one has classified SARS-COV-2 as it relates to bio-hazard level… What are the minimum handling protocols that are required to be applied.? What lab hazard level is sufficient? Since there have been no isolation of the actual virus — when do you know you have a sample? How can you tell? Until after the fact and have been handling it…. Does this rate a level 4 lab? A level 3?

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          • Ticonderoga says:

            Thank you,brother patriot,for educating me quite a bit! And, thanks for calling my attention to the results of the swab/ government connection.

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  16. JRD says:

    The Plot Against the President

    Film Coming Oct 2020.
    The True Story of the Biggest Political Scandal in U.S. History.
    A documentary based on the bestselling book by Lee Smith.

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  17. @ChicagoBri says:

    Chicago Mayor Lightfoot sent Police to interrupt worship services, banned parking near a church to make attendance difficult, but gave imprimatur for this: https://cwbchicago.com/2020/06/cops-chill-as-pride-partiers-overtake-halsted-street-til-4-a-m.html

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  18. dufrst says:

    People, Gen Flynn is not out of the woods yet! As long as Roberts is on the Supreme Court, anything can happen!

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  19. TJ says:

    Alyssa Milano Faces Renewed Backlash for 2017 Cornrows Photo

    Black Republican Couple Crack Up Laughing At Black Lives Matter Protest

    “Zero Black People”

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  20. repsort says:

    I think President Trump came into office thinking he could negotiate with his enemies. You can’t negotiate with evil peeps who have an insatiable hunger for power, there is no middle ground.
    I also think he made a rookie mistake by not ruthlessly cleaning house – firing ALL Obama holdovers.
    When he gets re-elected, the gloves come off everywhere..
    If the left cheats their way back into power, it’s CW time.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Pres Trump also thought The Swamp Creatures would come together and support him, as has been done for previous Presidents. Pres Trump never figured the Swamp Creature’s hatred for us would be so intense.
      Sad

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      • Pokey says:

        Also, he went to Washington and found very few people he knew and got no support from his party in trying to staff his Government. So he ended up with family members like Jared Kushner because he trusted them. Even several of those trusted advisers have served the President and his agenda badly. PDJT is discovering the extent of the Swamp and he appears to have no answer. His supporters are now left wondering whether he even remembers his mandate. He needs to start busting heads of looters and arsonists on the streets, but he can’t even trust the military to help with that. He needs to get this country’s economy going in the right direction again, but shutting down the economy in the first place was an example of letting his political enemies decide the fates of their States in response, and he has been rewarded with 15-20 governors that would rather watch their respective economies be destroyed because of the personal political advantages of shutdowns that they can see more clearly. In short, the President has been boxed in until he decides to stop the lawlessness and override the damned Democrap Governors. The people are seeing weakness and Trump is steadily losing them with each day that he refuses to act. I think he will decide to retire from the Presidency before he will play an imagined losing political card. Paralysis is the only guarantee for him that he will lose the election. Most of us are mad as hell about all of this and he should have known it from the time the little Commie scientist from the laughable CDC came to visit him.

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        • jeans2nd says:

          Gee wiz, Pokey, was totally with you until “he appears to have no answer.”

          Pres Trump has done all he could while staying within the guidelines of the Constitution.
          We don’t recognize it as we’ve not seen something that even resembles Constitutional for decades.

          You may drop out should you feel the need, but personally sure hope you don’t.
          We knew this was going to be a roller coaster ride. And what a ride it has been!

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        • I agree with most of what you say. I was listening to I think Rush’s program a month or so ago; there was a guest host…don’t remember who. He said that Trump was elected to drain the swamp but these two doctors were the swamp and if he kept showcasing them and having up there on stage with him then he was going to lose his supporters. He was right.

          I still can’t believe Trump fell for those two doctors telling him to shut the country down…unheard of. And after he did it, he should have stuck with his 2 week thing instead of drawing it out. Someone, once again, talked him out of following his instincts. But I still support him and just hope and pray he is able to get us out of this mess.

          I also agree saying he is for Law and Order and actually doing something about it are two very different things. Stop talking and start doing. He talks too much without following it up with actions.

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        • crikey9 says:

          Its always easier to tell Trump what he ought to do and expressing it provides some personal comfort but there is no way we know how hemmed in they have him and how desperate the left is to “get rid of trump” he cant trust Pence…McConnell, McCarthy who all agree with th3 left Trump must go. Just think of being surrounded everyday by liars leakers and traitors. God Bless him for hanging in…

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          • Mariposa323 says:

            No one can question the sincerity and honesty of the best and most transparent President of these United States , for that FACT alone I will crawl over broken glass to vote for him again . Anyone who can’t motivate him or herself to vote again for him is beyond ungrateful at the very least and will be
            remembered by history as UNDESERVING to be called a Patriot !

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        Yes. And this is why he needs to go full savage this election. Starry exposing and declassifying was much as possible.

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      • CC says:

        Jeans2nd….not only intense but it has now been verified for all of us to see. Remember, Potus said “I caught them all”. Oh to be a fly on the wall….I cannot wait for his memoirs, when his second term is over.

        The one thing that troubles me…is an attitude and aura of darkness in a speech somewhere in March, when he discussed the onset of the virus and its origins….I remember thinking that his presentation was deep and quiet anger…he had also implied that there is much more to this virus, than we know, at our humble citizen level. I wish I had saved it…as I was more afraid of what his demeanor implied than what he said.

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    • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

      If The Donald isn’t already holding The Rook then he is really between a rock and a hard place.

      Sorry if already posted….details about the rally in OK…

      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/political-corruption-at-trump-rally/

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    • Ken Lawson says:

      He couldn’t fire most of them because Obama made them federal employees before he left. Prior to that they were appointees who can be replaced. Getting rid of federal employees is about as easy as moving Earth out of its orbit. But to your point, he should have done whatever he could to get not just Obama people but also Clinton people out of any positions where they could do damage. If he’s allowed, he should have moved them to meaningless jobs with no power, transferred them to undesirable locations, or changed their job descriptions to take away things that could hurt his administration.

      But it’s too late to think of any of this right now. This is a fight for the survival of America as a free nation. Reliving yesterday does no good at this point.

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      • Gary says:

        Second term has to be scorched earth, let the legal battles rage while he does what he knows needs to be done. My confidence in him has not been shaken one iota.

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      • California Joe says:

        Nonsense! There’s no law requiring President Trump to showcase the two clowns Fauci and Brix. President Trump should have used his many valuable connections and brought in outside experts that he could trust. Fauci and Brix contradicted themselves every time they opened their mouth over the past three months!

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        The SES needs to be abolished.

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    • Free Speech says:

      I suspect he leaned on Flynn (a Democrat) heavily for recommendations, particularly military people. I’ve read Flynn recommended Milley to him. He hired an awful lot of ex-Obama military Democrats who were fired by Obama. They have turned out to be disasters.

      I’m guessing he didn’t want the Republicans because they’re all warhawks. Problem is the Democrats in the military all want to coddle Islamic orgs that are terrorist connected. Once he got rid of Islam-coddler Mattis, and killed Solemeini, no more Iran trouble.

      Same with John Kelly and his protege Kirsten Neilsen. Kelly wanted to coddle illegals, and so did Neilsen. Once he got rid of Neilsen, no more caravans.

      He even entertained hiring ex-military Obama fired like Petraeus and McChrystal. Both have turned out to be complete and total enemies of his administration.

      It turns out the Democrats were still Democrats. Hiring ex-military who had a beef with Obama was a disastrous strategy. It probably has been the single most obstructive personnel issue in his administration. I wonder if Sessions got sucked into this too with some of his hires. I’ve heard Rod Rosenstein had a grudge against Hillary. Lot of good that enemy of my enemy thing did.

      I fully believe John Kelly, Jared and others ran off or nixed most of his hardliners too like Bannon, Gorka, McFarland. It’s a wonder Pompeo and Stephen Miller are still around.

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  21. cjzak says:

    The full court press is on to beat PDJT no matter how they do it. Lies, cheating, doesn’t matter. All media is now stating he is losing. To Joe Biden. This is the most asinine assumption ever. It is mind control propaganda at it’s best from everywhere. ALL THE MEDIA–left and semi-right and right– is engaged in this scam and it very well could be working. How would we know otherwise? There is no source to actually believe in. (CTH excepted)

    I would love to see the Pres. come out with a dynamite healthcare plan by August-September. That just might change the narrative a bit. People are still worried about their healthcare and nobody had better think the SC is going to help eliminate Ocare completely.

    Bring out the big stuff PT. Get to the people. A huge ground game is a must imo. The rallies are probably going to be sabotaged from now on, if allowed at all because of covid, so find other ways to get the message out. The truth. Look to Omaha, supposedly friendly territory and we now know how many attempts were made to make that rally look bad by the people running that arena and city apparently. Any other place that will be fair about it? Who knows really.

    If the campaign is faltering, they need to switch gears and get some people in there who can do the job right. Didn’t they do that in 2016? No margin for error now. And I say this only because of what is being said all over the internet and excluding what the media is screaming in every headline.

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    • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

      The silence from the republican’s tells the tell. They didn’t want The Donald in 2016 and they don’t want him in 2020. The republican senate is a joke at best. The best thing they have done is prevent Trump’s impeachment.

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      • vikingmom says:

        Yes, the deafening silence from the RNC tells me everything that I need to know! There is ONE party in DC and it does NOT care one whit for average Americans and it definitely does NOT want Donald Trump to get another opportunity to expose their treasonous acts!

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      • jx says:

        The should understand that their survival is at stake. Get behind Trump or your party is finished.

        This is the usual Republican snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Too bad for them this time it’s for keeps.

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        • vikingmom says:

          The RNC and the RINOs will survive just fine – they are the “foil” to the Democrats and keep the public believing that there really are two parties and that their support and their votes actually matter. It’s like the Harlem Globetrotters of politics except in this case it is NOT a game!

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          • boogywstew says:

            Harlem Globetrotters = Demonrats Washington Generals = RINOs

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            • vikingmom says:

              Exactly!!! And yet far too many voters keep on sending the same people back to DC and somehow think that the outcome will be different! Nope, sorry…the game is rigged and the outcome is already pre-determined!

              The Democrats manipulate the African American voters with tales of racial injustice and class envy, promising better schools and more social programs/safety nets, while the Republicans tell the Conservatives that “this time” they will lower taxes, reduce the size of Government, and fix SCOTUS. But both sides are LYING and they have no intention of doing any such thing, because the current system is very beneficial to them and to the Globalist interest who support them.

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              • boogywstew says:

                We have to find great MAGA candidates to primary the RINOs and if that don’t work, crawl over broken glass while on our death bed (?) to vote for the MAGA or RINO if need be!

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      • The Senate Republicans, with a very few exceptions, are a total failure as representatives of their constituents. Hawley, Cotton, Paul are only ones with anything worth listening to or supporting. What a complete failure of leadership and courage. They would rather be Dems and have the Dem supporters so why not just change parties and get it over with. Maybe we could then get some honest, real, tough people in their place.

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    • Tornorosa says:

      cjzak, a great healthcare plan is a good idea. Most Americans don’t know how truly awful O’bamacare is. I know someone whose wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. they paid $600/month for premiums. From mammogram, biopsy, surgery, chemo and radiation therapy, United Healtcare paid $0, everything to “deductable” over sseveral yiears. (If they were illegal aliens it would have all been free)

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  22. Dora says:

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Genocide. Right out in the open and in-your-face, straight up genicide.
      Evil evil people.
      Roberts would not even have kids had their birth mother choosen abortion.

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      • Joebkonobi says:

        Just remember. Decisions like this is why the dems are leaving no stone unturned in trying to get President Trump out of office. One more conservative SC judge and Roberts inconsistency can be overcome. If dems get two more SC judges our constitution is a goner along with our liberty and freedom. Most important election since Lincoln.

        Trump wins we have a conservative court long enough to at least have a chance to right the ship. Dems win our Constitution goes poof as soon as they have the SC majority.

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    • kaste668 says:

      They will all stand in front of the Lord on judgement day with the blood of millions of murdered babies on them.

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  23. jeans2nd says:

    India has banned 50 Chinese apps, including TicToc.
    It is so easy to be bold, knowing Uncle Sam is standing right behind you.
    Kudos to PM Modi!

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  24. Sherri Young says:

    Exactly.

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  25. TexSwede says:

    Just breaking, second Supreme Court decision this morning. This one seems to go the right direction. Never know about Roberts.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-orders-restructuring-of-consumer-financial-protection-bureau-11593441215?mod=djemalertNEWS

    WASHINGTON—The Supreme Court ordered changes to a government consumer-finance watchdog created in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis, ruling the agency’s structure was unconstitutional because its director held too much unchecked power.

    The decision on Monday caps a 10-year legal battle over the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was designed to protect consumers from abusive financial-industry practices on products like mortgages, student loans and credit cards. The court rejected broader legal arguments to strike down the bureau altogether.

    In a 5-4 ruling, the court said Congress overstepped constitutional lines in 2010 when it created the CFPB and placed it under the control of a single director who was insulated from the White House’s political direction. Lawmakers, attempting to give the bureau a buffer from political influence, said the director could only be removed by the president for “inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance in office.”

    But the court, in an opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts, said the setup meant the CFPB’s director was unaccountable to the executive branch, creating an unconstitutional reduction of presidential power.

    “The CFPB’s single-director structure contravenes this carefully calibrated system by vesting significant governmental power in the hands of a single individual accountable to no one,” the chief justice wrote.

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    • All Too Much says:

      Hard to believe it was that close, 5-4, I would have said, years ago.

      Now? Not so sure, but glad Roberts isn’t totally in the bag.

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    • “…the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was designed to protect consumers from abusive financial-industry practices on products like mortgages, student loans and credit cards.”

      Or so we were told. BUT, as it was actually used by Obama sympathizers, it was little more than a scheme to shake down financial institutions and force them to finance Domestic Leftist Extremists.

      I’m not saying that consumers DON’T need protection fron predatory lenders (we DO) but the CFPB was/is flawed in principle and practice. It needs a LOT of fixin’ or maybe even a replacement.

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        Yes. Isn’t this how a Obama shoot down banks in favor of “community banks”? I don’t remember al the details but I do remember this happening and I think it was this agency that allowed it to happen .

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        • The CFPB used a clever little scheme to circumvent certain regulations that controlled how public funds could be appropriated and disbursed.

          In many cases, the decisions that it rendered gave their victims a choice:

          You have been determined to be in violation of Regulation X, and are being fined an amount of $Y BUT, if (instead of paying the actual fine) you make donations to THESE organizations (from a list of Obama’s pet Leftist orgs like La Raza, BLM, etc) WE will give you a $2 credit for every $1 you donate.

          Now, what business or financial institution would even CONSIDER not taking advantage of a system that automatically cuts their financial obligation in half? NONE.

          So, the CFPB was extorting contributions for leftist orgs, but NO ONE in Obama’s administration could be accused of misappropriating or diverting public funds because THIS money was never paid into the public coffers.

          Pretty slick, eh?

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      • crikey9 says:

        It was never needed…this is Lizzie Warrens personal dept constructed so that it could not be disbanded and Congress had no oversight power. When a democrat names a department the Cinsumer Financial Protection bureau that is doublespeak providing NO protection for consumers

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    • Paprika says:

      Sounds to me like the last quote posted could be said about Chief Justice Roberts himself!

      He certainly does not seem to feel he is accountable to the US Constitution! Like when he proclaimed the the citizen question on the Census or getting rid of DACA were within the President’s Executive power, but we’ll say NO because we want to know your intent and if you followed bureaucratic procedures.

      Then there’s the old switch penalty for tax to rewrite the Obuma Care nonsense type thinking always comes to mind.

      I notice that the 5 liberal judges in majority ruling only considered discrimination and equal access(or “precedent” in Robert’s opinion) when the question is really about safe, sound, and professional medical considerations.

      Wonder if he would send his wife or kids to a back alley transgenedered witch doctor that has no access to a hospital if things go wrong for a hip replacement or because of an auto accident?

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  26. NJF says:

    The media needs to be held accountable. They are enemies of the people.

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    • Henry says:

      Doxxing for me but not for thee.

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    • The Akh says:

      CBS is getting wrecked for that. But its not enough. This is beyond disgusting. Its almost like they want to stoke more tension…nah, just my imagination.

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    • I was appalled that their race was the first thing mentioned.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      Yes especially as seeing there is video of these rioters breaking through a gate to private property which is what they did along with threatening to take this gun. It’s on video and being spread on social media.

      Also, it seems they were DEMs but did contribute to both parties. Countdown to Trump commenting/tweeting on this starts now. He should tweet one of the good memes of them with LAW AND ORDER.

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    • Amy2 says:

      This woman is not a responsible gun owner. She makes the rest of us look bad. You don’t point unless you’re ready to shoot. What an idiot.

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      • Paprika says:

        We’ll have to agree to disagree. She was a responsible gun owner who I think showed she was ready to shoot if they crossed the line. She was responsible in that she just did not open up firing and allowed them to back off. If they had chose not to—“Play stupid games, win stupid prizes” comes into play.

        I thought she and her husband did a fine job of ‘threat management’ in defending their selves and their home with the appropriate measures. What makes you think she was not ready to use it if needed?

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        • Amy2 says:

          Yeah, I’m always ready to shoot one handed. Look at how she’s holding it. The Fox report said there were about five hundred people there. Was she looking at who was behind the guys yelling at them?

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  27. VP Pence in Texas with Gov. Abbott “pushing” masks?

    I’m getting a gut feeling the VP is going to turn on the President prior to the election to clear the way for himself, the COC and Rinos to take over or be content in 2nd place.

    Am I just disillusioned?

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  28. Piper says:

    I want to donate to President Trump’s re-election campaign but do NOT want to the RNC getting any of my money. Any suggestions?

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    • NJF says:

      Unfortunately can’t happen. They get a cut. No way around it.

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    • simplewins says:

      I can only tell you that I use his website. Thats the most direct.

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    • TJ says:

      See contribute link at top.

      https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      After the reelection of President Trump in November, the hostile takeover the Republican Party by MAGA will go into full speed. The primaries leading up to the mid-terms in 2022 will eliminate most if not all of the never-Trump GOP office holders in DC.

      They want Trump supporters to start a third party. That would be foolishness and electoral suicide on our part. Make them….the Romneys and the Ryans and the Bushes and the rest of the filthy, anti-American GOP establishment scramble for a new party. The GOP is ours now.

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      • Bigbadmike says:

        But all contributions to silent RINO Congressional Candidates on hold until they start supporting the President. That was my message to the R wanabees – they either stand up for the President or no money. The silence from the R’s candidates is disturbing.
        Would welcome comments from Knowledgeable Treepers about the Candidates. I think I’m being used by secret never Trumpers. Who really deserves our support? Anybody know about Jeanne Ives or Nancy Mace? I gave to their primary contests – but I am not 100% sure they really support the President.

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        • boogywstew says:

          If the primaries are over … hold your nose and vote for the RINOs. Lindsey Graham is 100X better than Chuck Schumer … IMHO! Mitt Romney is 5X better than Schumer.

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  29. Jimmy Jack says:

    Absolute must read about the UN and NATO involvement in funding and having review boards in 46 US cities. These are non citizens determining our policing.

    This is critical and I hope Sundance starts to investigate it. Trump has got to win.

    And if anyone can share links to doling info on the 1998 Operation Blackjack I’d appreciate it.

    https://brassballs.blog/home/house-passes-bill-hr-7120-to-pay-for-nato-mercenaries-in-46-us-cities-american-united-nations-un-bill-barr-doj-police-review-boards

    https://brassballs.blog/home/congress-passes-house-hr-7120-hr7120-give-un-united-nations-another-billion-dollars-to-replace-local-police-review-boards-nato-troops-46-125-cities-george-floyd-biden-donilon-tom-cathy-russell-michael

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  30. I know that no one wants another war, but isn’t it TIME to finally confront the REAL threat to the rest of the world?

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/29/middleeast/iran-arrest-warrant-donald-trump-intl/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

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  31. NJF says:

    “Peaceful protesters”

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  32. Rikster says:

    My stepson’s biological father was recently admitted to DFW hospital with symptoms of a possible stroke. Because he was a smoker and had asthma they classified him as a Covid patient. Texas infection rates rising……………..yeah right!

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  33. TJ says:

    EEOC says employers can NOT require antibody tests for employees returning to work

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  34. Henry says:

    How can NYC and CHI ever recover from dabozo and cuomo’s reckless abandoning of the law?
    After seeing how NYPD is treated during responses over the weeekens; how can the rule of law ever be re-applied to today’s special groups?

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      I think they’re done tbh. NYC would need another Giuliani to turn this around and they just don’t have the numbers for that.

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      • MitchRyderDetroitWheels says:

        NYC is history. They would elect the same fool mayor again is they could. The governor’s police has led to the deaths of 1000’s in nursing homes but to hear the left MSM tell us he is perfect. JMO but I don’t give a sh*t what happens to new Yorkers.

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  35. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  36. thedoc00 says:

    With respect to the protest in front of Bezos Land and in Hollywood, I would not get too excited over it. There will be a few more controlled peaceful protests in elite puppet masters areas in the next few weeks. It has become too obvious, even to the unaffected voters living in harmony with the world of the suburbs, that the democrat party is encouraging their storm troops to wreck only their own homes and neighborhoods. So, video clips and sound bites of token protests in “White” elite areas are needed for the TV News.

    Notice: no burning, no looting, no violence, …

    They will all go home and get Amazon gift cards from uncle Jeff later in the day.

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  37. CM-TX says:

    | Iran issues arrest warrant for Trump over killing of Qassem Soleimani, asks Interpol to help |

    https://www.fox5dc.com/news/iran-issues-arrest-warrant-for-trump-over-killing-of-qassem-soleimani-asks-interpol-to-help

    Good luck with that Iran! 🙄
    Also, how’s that going to work when it wasn’t actually Salami that got droned?? (WRONG Ring… Somebody’s hiding! 🤫)

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  38. The American Patriot says:

    Well

    Trump fired his arse so the CDC has an interim in charge at this time.

    But for PR purposes, he has to be used so his buddies at the enemedia and DS don’t get the impression he got canned.

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    • ezpz2 says:

      Who did President Trump fire, and can you provide a link?

      I think we had this conversation the other day about Dr Fauci, and I pointed out that he participated in the task force briefing.

      TIA

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  39. sunnyflower5 says:

    Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany Holds a Briefing

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  40. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  41. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  42. Anyone else think Trump team is running a sloppy campaign and needs to circle the wagons? He has a couple of great people on staff like Keligh and Navarro but what the hell is everyone else doing?

    Yes the polls are slanted but still doesn’t mean it isn’t sloppy now. Are you happy with the effort and messaging, or is he being undermined / incompetent staff?

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    • gda53 says:

      Concern noted. I’m sure that PDJT will be contacting you urgently to get more of your ideas.

      Liked by 3 people

    • Amy2 says:

      No. The dems/SCOTUS/anarchists are doing his campaigning for him and it isn’t costing a dime! Turn off Brian Kilmeade and everyone else who thinks they know how to run a campaign. If you want to help, talk to the lib or non-voter next to you. WE are his campaign!

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    • Dekester says:

      It’s early folks, the tension among some is understandable but not useful.

      We knew knew this was going to occur.

      IMO Conservative individuals such as read here, are likely well prepared for most eventualities.

      It will be disappointing should PDJT lose this election, however should that tragedy occur, most here will do alright.

      The greatest loss will be any illusion of fairness or equitable treatment for Conservative voices, and I say look out. The Republican Party although will not disappear will become a non factor. PDJT is the Republican Party.

      We have withdrawn cash today from our bank,as we have done for many weeks now. The personal safe is being well stocked.

      Non investment debt is nil.

      Rumour has it that the current U.S. savings rate is at an extremely high level. Economies in the Western Democracies are at the abyss.

      It’s PDJT or bust.

      God bless PDJT

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    • crikey9 says:

      This is being done on purpose. The Uniparty is dropping the mask and joining forces rather than holding their usual theater of the absurd where each party plays their roles but then joins hands in the cloakroom to impeach, poison or assassinate Trump

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      • listingstarboard says:

        What were the issues that Pence was put in charge of? Voter Fraud and COVID response. Both are disasters.

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    • vladdy says:

      I think the corporate media is doing a full-court-press to push Trump supporters away from him. They’re saying the rallies are over, the staff is incompetent, that he looks weak — whatever they think will make people demoralized and hopeless.

      And I think there’s a percentage of Trump supporters who don’t want to “look dumb,” as the current idea seems to be….that anyone still supporting Trump after the last six months is stupid. They’re pushing that as hard as they are that BLM is actually a “civil rights” group rather than Marxist street soldiers and that Biden the basement dweller i leading PDT by double digits.

      Fortunately, there remains just as great a percentage of the population that trusts him and have not forgotten all that he has already done for the country and know that he is a smart, fearless president who is not about to “step aside” or “resign” or “give up or give in” or any of the other things people like Kilmeade are pushing on their shows.

      They are joined by new people, more every day who are disgusted by the other side and realizing what they stand to lose. So we’ll win by the same margin as last time or better, but it won’t be the same people — as some will believe the corporate media rumors and quit and others won’t — some will leave, but others will join to take their place.

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      • Fair enough. Although I’m critical of the campaign, doesn’t mean I won’t vote for him or think he does a bad job administratively. It just seems like too many unforced errors and lack of a plan for the campaign. It is early, but I don’t like to have opponents hang around.

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  43. gda53 says:

    I know very little about Sen. Tim Scott.

    But it seems to me that having Sen. Scott as your VP at this moment in time might drive the left even more insane than they already are. And cement a certain victory for PDJT.

    It would shore up the growing black approval of POTUS. It would allow Sen. Scott an enormous platform to push his reforms, which have, up until now, been shut down by the Dems. As VP pick, how does the MSM shut down a black voice talking sense to black voters?

    VP debates – Tim Scott eviscerates the black female left wing loon.

    Scott is retiring when his term is up in 2022 – someone can advise whether his replacement would be another GOP person and who appoints him/her. I am assuming this would not mean a loss of a Senate seat.

    Pence can say that he is graciously stepping down in order to bring the country together at this most difficult time in our history. Frees him up to pursue the nomination for 2024 (if he wants it).

    It’s a win/win.

    Tell me why I’m wrong.

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    • minnesotamike55 says:

      Schumer, Pelosi, and the media will paint Tim Scott as a token, put in place simply for political reasons. Won’t convince any democrat to change their vote.

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      • gda53 says:

        Not good enough – you think Tim Scott, with the exposure he’s bound to get from this, won’t be able to face down white Schumer/Pelosi?

        Guess the real reason is you don’t think much of Tim Scott and don’t think he can rip their “argument” to shreds.

        Give me a more compelling reason please. Remember, if PDJT gets > 10% of the black vote, this thing is over. He has 28% approval right now. You think picking Tim Scott is going to reduce that? He got 8% of the black vote in 2016 (13% of the black male vote).

        Explain to me how he will fail to get 10+% of the black vote in Nov with a black VP.

        Show your working.

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        • minnesotamike55 says:

          As much as I like Tim Scott, even with his exposure he couldn’t stop Schumer from blocking his police reform bill. That’s when Sshumer claimed it was a token effort.

          Ripping their argument to shreds will not be reported on by MSM and the message will not get out. You want more blacks voting for republicans? Convince them to turn off MSM.

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        • Paprika says:

          Quite a lot demands, pointed questions, and supposition of what a fellow poster gave as their opinion on this site, don’t ya think gda53?

          –” Not good enough”, “Guess the real reason is you…”, ‘Give me a more compelling reason…”, “Explain to me how…”, and last, but not least, “Show you working.” Really? Do you feel I and everyone here must answer your every whim and demand to be able express our opinion as you demanded of ‘minnesotamike55’ ?

          I think I’ll pass on your rules of discussion that you deem worthy and continue to have intelligent discourse with the many open minded Treepers here that are seeking civil reasoning and discussion.

          With due regard,
          Paprika

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      • FreyFelipe says:

        And it would paint the Republican party to a lot of conservatives as pandering to a racial spoils system. If Scott were white no one would even be thinking of replacing Pence with him.

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        • FreyFelipe says:

          BTW, about a year and a half ago, President Trump nominated one Thomas Farr to be a district judge in North Carolina and Tim Scoot joined with Jeff Flake to kill his confirmation.

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      • boogywstew says:

        They could paint Sen Scott as a token until he opens his mouth and proves them wrong?

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  44. NJF says:

    Good thing they created a backup bc they knew it was coming.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      I really hate this. It was a very high energy place and the source of fantastic memes. Information warfare is real. If it wasn’t they wouldn’t ban things like this.

      For this who never went there the mods did not slow any hate speech or racism at al. None.

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    • I don’t go to Reddit but I know that liberals go to forums and pretend to be non-liberals, and then stink up the place to make non-liberals look bad.
      Before the internet they were called “seminar callers”. They started out as Anti 2nd amendment liberals. They would call talk radio, an say that they were conservative and voted for the a Republican candidate, but they just can’t see why the republicans will not support some law, that restrict gun control.
      This continued with other issues and now they are using the technique to stink up the internet.
      Could this be what happened at Reddit?

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  45. trapper says:

    Violent riots in Minneapolis, the American Scandinavia? This should not have been a surprise to anyone.

    Northfield Minnesota prides itself as the beginning of the end of the James gang, where townspeople, the Swedes who founded the place, armed themselves and heroically fought off the outlaw remnant of confederate terrorist gangs. But Hollywood has for decades been flooding theaters with movies glorifying outlaws, from the James gang to Cassidy and Sundance to Bonnie and Clyde. Then Obama parachuted Somali “refugees” and other assorted malcontents into Minnesota and suddenly this was not your grandparents’ Minnesota anymore, but an open tinder pile of grievances just waiting for a match. The match wasn’t Floyd’s killing. The match was the BLM-antifa terrorist gangs that rode into town.

    At the same time Hollywood was glorifying outlaws and criminals, it was also feeding us a steady diet of movies and TV shows glorifying confederate cultural touchstones. Remember The Dukes of Hazard? The car with the confederate flag on top? The car named General Lee? Sure, middle-school age boys loved it, but adult Northerners just did a slow burn.

    Put it all together. Yeah, it goes together quite nicely. There are no statues of Jesse James or Cole Younger in Northfield, Minnesota.

    It all distills down to this: the confederacy fought to split the country in order to PRESERVE slavery. It lost. Every confederate general was a traitor. Every statue of a confederate general has been an open sore since the day it went up, and every single one should have been torn down the day after it was erected. Don’t like it? Get over it.

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    • III% says:

      Things are not as simplistic as you would like them to be. Read more historical documents and fewer history books.

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      • trapper says:

        Yes, they are. Go read them yourself. I’ve told you what it distills down to. The rest is just bullshit to justify someone’s own personal agenda, whether written in 1850 or 2020. Slavery could not survive Jefferson’s political scripture. One had to be rejected. Slavery was rejected, and the south lost the argument. Period.

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        • boogywstew says:

          Another thing is, by defending Confederate statues we BUY that issue from the Democrats and we are put into the position of defending those who defended slavery. Confederate statues belong in private ownership or a Confederate museum.

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          • trapper says:

            Yes! Remember, it was southern DEMOCRATS who erected them. Why in the world should northern Republicans now defend them? Tear ’em down. But mind you, that’s traitorous confederate generals, NOT Washington or Jefferson or …. you get the picture.

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            • boogywstew says:

              Talk about a lost, golden opportunity … Republican leaders could opine on how such and such Confederate leader was responsible for the deaths of “X” number of Union soldiers fighting so that men could be free. Another lost opportunity is in not stressing that the United States fought a BLOODY war to free slaves. What other country on God’s Green Earth has done that? The “States Rights” advocates steal THAT argument and try to make the Civil War about money which plays right into the hands of the Left.

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              • trapper says:

                Yeah. Go count the graves of white Union soldiers who died to make black men free. If we are supposed to buy into the BS blood guilt BLM is peddling, then we ought to get the blood credit. You’re welcome.

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                • boogywstew says:

                  There are thousands of hand written letters from Union soldiers bitching about everything soldiers always bitch about but expressing their desire to set men free. Then I have to hear it from some folks here how it was a rich man’s war over money. There were massacres of Abolitionist Southerners who refused to join the Confederate Army. “Bloody Madison” for example.

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        • Paprika says:

          Well, I would have attempted a reasonable reply to you post above, but you ended it; “Don’t like, Get over it.” and this post with “period”. I shall follow your dictum and just end any thoughts of having a reasonable discussion with a .

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          • trapper says:

            That’s a false argument and you know it. You are refuting something I didn’t say. Cheap trick the left likes to use.

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      • boogywstew says:

        Reading actual Congressmen’s and Senators’ opinions , uncensored by future author’s bias, in the Congessional Record convinced me 100% that the American Civil War was 99% about the State’s rights to keep slaves. Almost all the arguments about slavery were couched in much more polite terms so to take a quote out of the Congressional Record works out great for Southern Apologists. When you read the whole conversation it’s as plain as day. I’m not throwing stones, New York allowed slavery until 1830 ish.

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        • III% says:

          *sigh*. I’m no “southern apologist”. I’m a constitutionalist. When you allow money to influence the decision making (like then and now) you get government overstep. The Constitution is the umbrella of the most good with least intrusion. The rest is left to the people. Each state is supposed to decide. Then as now we had money in the background applying pressure and leverage for this or that group, usually to the detriment of all. Money bought politicians threw us into a civil war once, it remains to be seen if they can do it again.

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          • boogywstew says:

            Because slave owners made money from free labor you look at it as a money issue?

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            • III% says:

              That is why some southern slave owners resisted, but there was northern money pushing for the freeing. There were certain entities that could make more money if the southern states were forced to free slaves. Sometimes people get emotionally invested and forget to look at all the reasons why of a thing. They wish to assign a purity of motive to those they agree with.

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              • boogywstew says:

                Keeping a human being as a slave doesn’t take too much of a pure motive to see as a horror show. It ranks alongside cannibalism as a freak show. Some of us would die to set men free and others would have to look at the books and see if it was profitable.

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                • III% says:

                  *Sigh* If you ever want to have an analytical discussion about things, let me know. I don’t have discussions with people who are so emotionally invested in things they can’t put it aside and look at all factions.

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                • boogywstew says:

                  Some things are just “right or wrong” and a preponderance of analytical evidence either way doesn’t change that. How you can even argue the South’s side for slavery should give you pause. I don’t think you are “for” slavery. I just think you’d argue with a broken clock.

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                • III% says:

                  I am not arguing whether slavery was right or wrong. I think most people agree it was wrong. What I am arguing is the idea that the war was all about slavery. It was not. You’ve seen the line “if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth”, this subject is that in action. The idea that the entire civil war was fought about slavery has taken root, flowered, and is now bearing fruit. It is a bitter fruit, but people will consume it anyway.
                  While you are correct that for fun I would argue with a broken clock, or a stop sign, that is always for fun, not in seriousness. I enjoy discussions, thoughts, and perspectives from others. At times, it shows me new ways of seeing things, thinking about things, etc.
                  I like you boogywstew, and were we ever to meet, I suspect we could share a beer or two and have some fascinating conversations, as long as we stayed away from this particular one. If it makes you feel better, I’ll not speak with you again on this subject and we can agree to leave it in the past. We have enough coming at us in the present without revisiting things that went on 150 years ago. If things ever settle down and we have the luxury of going back and parsing the past, well, we can talk about it then if you wish.

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              • trapper says:

                That’s the traditional Marxist analysis, northern capitalists pushing abolition for profit, blah blah blah. It’s history through the green lens of dialectical materialism, it distorts and perverts everything it views, and ignores everything that doesn’t fit. It’s BS from start to finish.
                I will repeat, it was a choice between Jefferson’s stated principles upon which the country was founded, and the continuation of slavery as defended by the traitorous confederate states. Slavery lost. Christian truth as stated by Paul and expressed politically by Jefferson prevailed No longer Jew or Greek, the Lord is lord of all. Romans 10. Love of money didn’t end slavery.

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                • III% says:

                  No, it’s history as it was, not purified and simplified down into catch phrases and a single issue. The truth of the matter is there were a LOT of things that drove us to the brink of civil war. It is repeating as we speak. There was no one issue. There was no one topic. As with most things in life it was more complicated than that. If you want to swallow what you are fed, that is certainly your right, just don’t try to force feed the rest of us.
                  I will repeat for you as well. Stop reading history “books”, and go back and read journals and letters from that time. Get to know the real people of the time and understand that the push was much less noble than you want to believe. It wasn’t “good people freeing enslaved people because it was wrong”. The ones that believed that were mostly out of it for the first couple of years, and only joined Lincoln once he gave the emancipation proclamation. Stop buying what others are selling and think for yourself.

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  46. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  47. WeThePeople2016 says:

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    • crikey9 says:

      They have been taught that killing their future generations is the right of their women….they are being taught that killing their fellow blacks every weekend in Dem cintrolled cities is their right, they are NOW being taught that it is their right to kill white people to avenge some long dead ancestor who may or may not have been a slave….next are the roundups and purges

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    • Nordic Breed says:

      Where are the thugs’ masks? I thought we were all going to die if we didn’t wear masks! For sure we shouldn’t be going to church, restaurants, etc. without masks. So why the exception? /s

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      • listingstarboard says:

        So that guy with his fist in the mans face, the one with the blue head wrap, his tee shirt says Blue umbrella with an umbrella. WTH is the symbolism with umbrellas? The warlord Raz is CEO of Black Umbrella. In the first days of riots and anarchy there were men leading others to riot and loot and destroy and they were carrying umbrellas.

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  48. minnesotamike55 says:

    BLM protesters vs Blue Lives Matter supporters in front of MN governors mansion Saturday. BLM shouting, “F the police, F America, police are Nazi’s.”

    Every company or sports team or politician who claims to support BLM, must also now admit that they support “F-ing America”

    Anywhere you see “we support BLM” should be informed they also support “F-ing America”.

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