Wednesday January 29th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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  1. DanDeplorable says:

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  2. citizen817 says:

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  5. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    They’re Out There!

    By Pastor Ricky Kurth

    Here at Berean Bible Society, we are often asked about our unique position on water baptism. We always respond as graciously as we can, and provide such inquirers with articles and videos that they can use to study our position more thoroughly.

    Sometimes we can tell from the way the question is worded that the inquirer believes that water baptism is a part of God’s program for today, and they are just writing us to indignantly object to our position. We received one such email recently, which read:

    “You say you don’t believe in water baptism, but to obey the gospel in its entirety means to believe on the gospel of Jesus and be fully immersed in water for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38). It is clearly stated, in black and white, what a person has to do for remittance of sins!…Why would water baptism not be required when it is plainly in the Scriptures that it is the method of entering into Christ? Even Jesus was water baptized!”

    I responded to this dear brother with the same grace with which we reply to more sincere inquiries, although admittedly with less anticipation of a favorable reply. But the very next day, we received this email in response to the information I had sent him:

    “Now I realize the error of water baptism! Wow! I’ve been dunked five times, not knowing that it is not for this dispensation! Thank you dear fellow Christian pastor! I was trusting in water baptism for my salvation, a bit more than in Jesus alone. I repent humbly, and wholeheartedly…I am a youthful 62-year-old who has been through the ringer, searching for the truth…I have believed false preachers on TV, false teachings on the internet, etc., so I decided to look at your Berean website. Someone in years past told me to only trust Bereans. Something inside of me wasn’t sitting well with water baptism for salvation. I had to explore your explained teachings—to my delight, to say the least!”

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a dramatic turnaround from someone who gave the appearance that he would not be open to the truth. We share it with you to encourage you to keep sharing Paul’s gospel with anyone and everyone. People like this brother are rare, but they are out there, along with many others who might take a little longer to grasp the truth. You just have to find them. And the only way to find them is to be faithful “stewards of the mysteries of God” (1 Cor. 4:1,2).

    Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
    2 Moreover it is required in stewards, that a man be found faithful.

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    • TMonroe says:

      “Now I realize the error of water baptism! Wow! I’ve been dunked five times, not knowing that it is not for this dispensation! Thank you dear fellow Christian pastor! I was trusting in water baptism for my salvation, a bit more than in Jesus alone.”

      In the hope of avoiding further error along the lines of what was expressed in the last sentence, let us turn to Paul and his ministry.

      It is noteworthy that the scenario used in these articles over and over again to illustrate someone — and specifically in Acts 16, someone evidently a Gentile — asking how to be saved and receiving Paul’s reply about belief, as it specifically involved baptism soon after that person believed:

      Acts 16:29-34 –“And having called for lights, he rushed in, and having become terrified, he fell down before Paul and Silas. And having brought them out, he was saying, “Sirs, what is necessary of me to do, that I may be saved?” And they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him along with all those in his house. And having taken them in that hour of the night, he washed them from the wounds, and immediately he was baptized, and all his household. And having brought them into the house, he laid a table for them and rejoiced with all his household, having believed in God.”

      Acts 19:4-5 “Then Paul said, “John baptized a baptism of repentance, telling the people that they should believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus. And having heard, they were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus.”

      1 Cor 1:12-17 — “Now I mean this, that each of you says, “I indeed am of Paul,” and “I of Apollos,” and “I of Cephas,” and “I of Christ.” Has Christ been divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized into the name of Paul?” I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one should say that you were baptized into my name. Now also I baptized the household of Stephanas; as to the rest, I do not know whether I baptized any other. For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel; not in wisdom of discourse, so that the cross of the Christ should not be emptied of its power.”

      From this we know:
      – Baptism occurred on Paul’s watch, including in Gentile lands
      – Paul did baptize believers
      – Paul, wanting to straighten out those making more who baptized whom than was warranted, puts the focus on his call to share the gospel rather than have people obsess over who baptized them

      It is noteworthy that though Paul circumcised half-Jew/half-Greek Timothy “because of the Jews who were in those quarters” (cf. Acts 16:3), he did not feel compelled to do so with full Greek Titus (cf. Galatians 2:3), which was an important part of the issue of place of the law that plagued the post-Pentecost, 2nd Temple-era church.

      A natural question would be: why would Paul have no issue with the baptism of Gentiles (either by himself of by others), especially when the circumcision matter was such a matter of focus in his letters?

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      • Pale rider says:

        Hebrews gives more light when describing the meat and milk of Gods word. Hebrews 5
        Actually all of Hebrews.
        The Gospel (good news) to be preached was more than any religious acts and people tend to get caught and robbed in those arguments. It is also a hiding place for believers.
        If you know Christ then you ‘know’ Christ. It is intimate and unforgettable. Dipped, sprinkled, sliced, is religion and should be treated as such. It has a place until it hinders the relationship with Jesus.
        Paul sliced, Paul dipped matters very little, it’s what evidence does Paul produce? Paul is the perfect example of religion gone wrong until his Damascus road experience.

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “A natural question would be: why would Paul have no issue with the baptism of Gentiles”

        1Corinthians 1:17 ¶ For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

        Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
        5 One Lord, one faith, ONE baptism,
        6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

        1Cor. 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.


  6. Sentient says:

    The news that the last thing that Kobe Bryant and his daughter did before boarding that helicopter was to worship their Lord brings a tear to my eye and humbled me. Our God is merciful. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for holiness. They shall be filled.

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  7. Garrison Hall says:

    When I was a little kid, probably abut 8 or so, I first heard Les Paul and Mary Ford I was fascinated by Les Paul’s multi track recording of Mary’s voice and his guitar parts. In this version Emmylou shows her customary good taste, complementing the original version by not straying far from Les Paul’s original intent. That’s long time sideman Albert Lee playing lead guitar along with Ricky Skaggs on mandolin, and Jerry Douglas on dobro. Granted it may take 3 first class musicians to come close to Les Paul’s overdubbed guitar parts but Emmylou and producer Brian Ahern obviously wanted to respecting the style of the original. The pickers are obviously having a blast playing this . . . These tracks recorded earlier in her career are still some of the best music she’s ever done.

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  8. Garrison Hall says:

    Happy Cursday!

    I love to see dog rescue stories that have happy outcomes. It’s sad that so many people are fearful of pitbulls which, in my experience, can be enormously loyal and loving pets. Sadly, far too many fall into the the hands of people who abuse them and try to make them vicious. The dog in this video reminds me of another street foundling I know. Although she had a hard life, once she was with loving parents who cared for her she transformed into a loving companion. Possibly because of her background of neglect, she now is the most sweet-tempered dog I’ve ever seen. She radiates calm and kindness to everyone she meets.. You just couldn’t ask for a better dog.

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    • amwick says:

      I love these stories…. It seems that this dog was raised by a loving hand, so you have to wonder why he ended up alone… Also, it seems the pit bull prejudice is gradually fading away, I see many retired people in my neighborhood walking their pitt mixes…loving and gentle, every one…

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      • Garrison Hall says:

        My neighbor found a tiny Shih Tzu running in the middle of a busy street. The little guy turned out to be old and was blind and quite frail. He was clean and obviously well cared-for and loved by someone which, of course, cause us to wonder how he ended up on that street. He was such a tiny little thing that we doubted that he’d “just got out” from somewhere and concluded that he’d been dumped, perhaps when his owner had died. We could find no lost dog notices in the adjacent neighborhood and so my wife found him a good home with a down-the-street neighbor. It was sad to see such a poor little guy get lost like that.

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  9. Joemama says:

    For what it is worth, here is my translation of the Lord’s Prayer to modern English:

    Our Father, who is in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom shall come. Your will shall be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Please give us this day, our daily bread, and please forgive us from our trespasses, if we forgive those who trespass against us. Please lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
    For your way is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

    I have trouble with old English.

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  10. wodiej says:


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  11. Sepp says:

    . . . but deliver us from the Evil One.

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  12. Dora says:

    Charles Walter Simpson – The Bird Table (no date)

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  13. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.”
    2 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)

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  14. wtd says:

    Accused Hanukkah stabber Grafton Thomas unfit for trial, psychiatrist finds


    Former Father-in-Law Says Monsey Synagogue Stabber Grafton Thomas Identifies as a Muslim
    RobertSpencer @ “The schizophrenic Muslim mind”
    Video: Robert Spencer on the global outbreak of mental illness
    Speaks On Islamic Jew-Hatred At CSP’s Secure Freedom Radio With Frank Gaffney……

    Dr.Bostom’s authoritative voice on Islamic Jew-hatred needs to be heard if you really want to be taken seriously as knowing anything at all on the subject.


  15. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  16. Troublemaker10 says:

    Obama green energy investors deserve prison time


    I’ve been in the alternative energy industry for more than three decades. I loved what I did, whether it was supplying a remote home with power or an entire military contingent on the other side of the globe, I believed in my product.

    I loved the industry until the Marxists took it over under the guise of “green energy”, and how they were going to save the planet. The global warming scam to kill off fossil fuels and increase the cost of energy has been a plan long in the making for 30 years. From what I remember, much of it started with Gorbachev and his Green Cross project after the fall of the Berlin Wall.


    Indeed, the entire green energy movement was a Marxist scheme to control our energy output and destroy capitalism…

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  17. @ChicagoBri says:

    I took the suggestion of many on here an subscribed through Apple TV to OANN, and it is a major disappointment. I watched Liz Wheeler, who has guests on whom she doesn’t allow to talk, and last night I watched some guy Ledger, who fancied himself more of a constitutional scholar than Bruce Fein. If you want right wing news on steroids, OANN is your place.

    I want a reliable, unbiased news outlet. The Treehouse seems to be the only place to get real news.


    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      The two employees you cited have Opinion shows, they are not part of the news team that operates in one hour shifts through the day.

      OANN consistently has been broadcasting PJDT rallies in their entirety since the primaries.

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      • @ChicagoBri says:

        Most work during the day, so if all we get to see is someone who thinks they know it all and who use guests as props, then it is not news but infotainment, which I will not support financially.

        This is where media fails – where do we go when we need reliable information and not facts spun to reinforce existing beliefs?

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        • mandy says:

          A “one stop shop” for reliable information sans spin does not exist.

          I don’t think such a thing ever has….


          • sturmudgeon says:

            Do a lot of people know about this? Believable? The patent seems authentic.

            Use this tiny url for safe travels through your social network:

            CORONAVIRUS was funded and patented by Welcomme Trust (UK, fake sold to GlaxoSmithKline), Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, DARPA, DEFRA (UK), World Health Organization, European Commission (EU) via THE PINBRIGHT INSTUTUTE (UK)


  18. getfitnow says:

    FTA – Texas House District 28’s special election offered a first test of the theory that red Texas may be trending blue in the age of Trump. The suburban district west of Houston offered Democrats an opportunity to grab a seat and the narrative just days before the 2020 Iowa caucuses.

    HD28 is a red district in a county, Fort Bend, that has been trending blue. Hillary Clinton won it over Donald Trump 51-44 in 2016. Republican incumbent John Zerwas won HD28 +9 in 2018. His decision not to seek another term left it open and the Democrats pulled no punches to try to take it.

    But after early voting, Republican Gary Gates sprinted to the lead going away, 59% to 41% over the Democrat. The lead was surprisingly strong and held up as the count wore on. He finished the night winning 58% to 42%, with 30,000 votes cast — a new record for a Texas House special election by about 9,000 votes.

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  19. amwick says:

    The heat is on!!! Woot woot… Something is way off…now it is working… the guy yesterday said that system would need Mega bucks to repair……. *sighs..

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  20. just stevie says:


    “Who art Thou, Lord?” Acts xxvi. 15

    “The Lord spake thus to me with a strong hand.” There is no escape when Our Lord speaks, He always comes with an arrestment of the understanding. Has the voice of God come to you directly? If it has, you cannot mistake the intimate insistence with which it has spoken to you in the language you know best, not through your ears, but through your circumstances.

    God has to destroy our determined confidence in our own convictions. “I know this is what I should do” – and suddenly the voice of God speaks in a way that overwhelms us by revealing the depths of our ignorance. We have shown our ignorance of Him in the very way we determined to serve Him. We serve Jesus in a spirit that is not His, we hurt Him by our advocacy for Him, we push His claims in the spirit of the devil. Our words sound all right, but our spirit is that of an enemy. “He rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.” The spirit of our Lord in an advocate of His is described in 1 Corinthians xiii.

    Have I been persecuting Jesus by a zealous determination to serve Him in my own way? If I feel I have done my duty and yet have hurt Him in doing it, I may be sure it was not my duty, because it has not fostered the meek and quiet spirit, but the spirit of self-satisfaction. We imagine that whatever is unpleasant is our duty! Is that anything like the spirit of our Lord – “I DELIGHT to do Thy will, O My God.”

    Oswald Chambers
    January 29th Devotional

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  21. Dora says:

    I read years ago that he loved cats. 🙂

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  22. NoTwoSystemsOnlyOneChiCom says:

    Turkish government street organizers, aka organ grinders, echo the left’s playbook in reaction to Pres Trump’s peace proposal. Almost like a chapter of the NAACPSPLC under Obama. And on cue, the willing-to-be-used Arabs are putting on their riotous dancing shoes for the streets.
    The propaganda ministry should take over for Cuomo and company.


  23. GB Bari says:

    So this is a Reddit post from 2012.
    The author observed a notable difference between Democrat and Republican politicians.
    But it is as applicable today as much as then. Even more so, unfortunately, IMO..

    Quite well done, IMO. Please take a few minutes and read…..

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  24. More evidence of the subversive forces at work WITHIN our government:

    Remember who ELSE was a buddy with Bill Ayers? Barack Obama.


  25. James W Crawford says:

    This is a concerning story about the Americans who have been evacuated from China:

    The charter operator is well equipped to provide large scale, air ambulance services. This appears to have been warranted because the flight was diverted to an Air Force Base where the passengers and crew can be quarantined. The diversion suggests that someone on the flight developed symptoms


    • sturmudgeon says:

      Please see above post regarding the AIM article…

      Use this tiny url for safe travels through your social network:

      CORONAVIRUS was funded and patented by Welcomme Trust (UK, fake sold to GlaxoSmithKline), Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, DARPA, DEFRA (UK), World Health Organization, European Commission (EU) via THE PINBRIGHT INSTUTUTE (UK)


  26. Lucille says:

    10 Most Insane Weapons In The World
    Interesting Facts – Published on Jan 15, 2020


  27. Barry from Victoria says:

    I don’t know how many of you would be interested in this, but I recently signed up for a new browser and search engine. The search engine is Qwant and the Browser is called Brave.They go together. Anyway they block ads and prevent tracking. So far, after about two months of use, I have been quite satisfied with them. Of interest to content creators like Sundance is a feature in Brave called Basic Attention Tokens. A user like me collects these tokens as he browses the internet and at the end of the month these tokens are transferred proportionately to the sites visited. They are a form of cryptocurrency if I understand it right. However the donations only work if the content creator is signed on with the Browser, and I notice that only three of the 50 or so sites I regularly visit has signed up and The Last Refuge is not one of the three. I would be interested in hearing what Trrpers might know about this as I am not exactly a computer whiz.

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  28. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on the peace of the Lord Jesus, on:

    1. The peace He bore in His soul — the only perfect Peace-bearer.
    2. The peace He made among men — the only perfect Peacemaker.
    3. The peace He gave to His disciples — the only perfect Peace-giver.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau) for today – January 16th – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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  29. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  30. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  31. InAz says:

    I just received a text message from an organization called Freedom Works.

    The message said 200 were on Capitol Hill working to get the impeachment dismissed by the Senate.

    I looked up the information on Freedom Works.

    Does anyone know anything about it? Is it really a Conservative organization, is it worth joining?

    Thanks in advance


    • auscitizenmom says:

      Hm. I don’t know anything about it, but I googled it and came up with these tidbits.

      FreedomWorks is a conservative and libertarian advocacy group based in Washington D.C., United States. FreedomWorks trains volunteers, assists in campaigns, and encourages them to mobilize, interacting with both fellow citizens and their political representatives. It is widely associated with the Tea Party movement.” Wikipedia
      The parent company is Citizens for a Sound Economy.

      “Citizens for a Sound Economy (CSE) (1984–2004) was a conservative political group operating in the United States. It was established in 1984 by Charles and David Koch of Koch Industries. Ron Paul was appointed as the first chairman of the organization. The CSE described itself as “hundreds of thousands of grassroots citizens dedicated to (1) free markets and limited government, and (2) the highest level of personal involvement in public policy activism.”[citation needed]


  32. Lucille says:

    Fox Allows Super Bowl Ad With Drag Queens, Won’t Approve Pro-Life Commercial
    By Micaiah Bilger – January 29, 2020 | 10:48AM WASHINGTON, DC


  33. As long as the lib dems think Twitter is real and viable, ( Texas) I’m good

    Here We Go: Twitter to Enact New Policy Allowing Users to Report Accounts for Misleading Voter Information or Suppression


  34. Lucille says:

    Excellent commentary….

    Kobe Bryant Sikorsky S-76B Crash Update 29 Jan
    blancolirio – Juan Browne


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