Sunday January 19th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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95 Responses to Sunday January 19th – Open Thread

  1. citizen817 says:

    Oh so true…

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  2. DanDeplorable says:

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  3. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Liberty Not License

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam
    The fact that we are given perfect liberty in Christ does not mean that we should spend our lives in gratifying our own fleshly desires. Just the opposite is the case. Believers have been delivered from the bondage of childhood and given the liberty of full-grown sons in Christ (Gal.3:24; 4:1-7), and this advance from infancy to maturity in itself implies the acquisition of a sense of responsibility.

    The doctrine of our liberty in Christ does not support, it rather refutes, the false theory that those who are under grace may do anything they please. Paul was “slanderously reported” in this connection (Rom.3:8), but there were carnal believers then, as there are now, who actually did use their liberty as license to gratify their own desires. To turn from liberty to license in this way is fully as serious an error as to turn from liberty to law.

    Many a believer, motivated only by his own fleshly desires and not at all by love for Christ or others, has indulged in pleasures of the flesh and of the world, justifying himself on the ground that he is under grace and has liberty in Christ. Taking others down with him in his spiritual declension he complains of any who would help him, that, “They are trying to put me under the law”.

    Such are actually guilty of departing from grace, for “the grace of God…hath appeared”:

    “Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in this present world;

    “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

    “Who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works” (Tit.2:11-14).

    https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/liberty-not-license/

    Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

    Galatians 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
    2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
    3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
    4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
    5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
    6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
    7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

    Romans 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

    Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
    12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
    13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
    14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      In the epistles of Paul, the Apostle to the Gentiles, he admonishes us that we “SHOULD” be living our lives to glorify our Lord and Savior. He does this in the beginning, in the middle and near the end of his writings to the church “which is his body”.

      Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also SHOULD walk in newness of life.

      Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we SHOULD walk in them.

      Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we SHOULD live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;

      However, what happens when we do not receive any instructions on how to do so? Even if we do, we are creating beings with a free will, so we can choose to obey or disobey. Hence this term should is in the subjunctive mood (which designates uncertainty, because the action is yet future), because maybe we will and maybe we will not. Even still, the Holy Ghost seals us until the day of redemption and the blood of Christ justifies us in the sight of God the Father.

      Ephesians 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

      Romans 5:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
      16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
      17 For if by one man’s offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
      18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
      19 For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

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  4. Lucille says:

    Treepers…

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    • RyderLee says:

      Lucille , may God Bless Your Sunday Also 😊

      The picture is Beautiful and Just what it looked like here for a few days ..
      Crisp and Snowy !

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      • Lucille says:

        Thanks, RyderLee! It’s predicted we’ll have a couple of days without snow, then snow/rain for a few, and on to the regular Idaho Panhandle winter…

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        • RyderLee says:

          Lucille , I think I Love the Snow as much as I Love the Sunshine !
          It’s a Real Toss-Up for me on That !
          Lovely Picture ! Happy Sunday to You 😊 !

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  5. Lucille says:

    Wonderful clouds….

    “Lodi Garden” by Thierry David

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  6. hawkins6 says:

    Tulsi Gabbard having some fun on the campaign. A critical Twitter reply stated that the man could have done more when he quit and Tulsi replied, “So could I.” Where was 300 push up Joe?

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  7. Julia Adams says:

    O Lord, our God and Savior:
    I pray for President Trump and the Nation.

    I pray tonight that President Donald J. Trump will be surrounded by Your special boundaries of protection, that he receives Your wisdom and be led by Holy Spirit at all times, every day.

    I pray that he and his family be protected by the LORD in the presence of their evil enemies, and that his enemies will be put to shame for their actions against him as he has been outstanding in serving our country.

    I pray that no weapon ever be formed against him, that all falsehoods and lies spoken against him are condemned, and that he is exonerated by the Senate and his vindication is from God.

    Mr. President, I have been praying for you since your Inauguration when this whole debacle began. I will continue to pray for you, Mr. President. Stay strong! We are with you. 100%

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  8. VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms says:

    This is especially for the atheist, the agnostic and skeptical.

    Many of us speak of our beliefs and lives of faith as if it is a real and active way of life.

    For some, though, I try to realize that is a leap just too much, too far, so – unreasonable. Yet, for those times you surprise yourself praying to a god you don’t believe in; hoping for some hope, some answer…

    Then please let me share a pattern I have been thinking about for a while. And even if you can’t yet see the Pattern-Maker, at least see that there may be Validity to the pattern.

    As I see it, this Judeo-Christian culture which we discuss freely here in these branches, has been a living, active, historical People for about 4000 years.

    Much of the Old Testament is a diary of the Israelite nation, beginning from when Abraham heeded God(Jehovah)’s call to move his family from the region of Ur of the Chaldeans, probably near modern Basra, Iraq. He eventually settled in what is now the part of or near the modern nation of Israel.

    About 500 years later, one of his descendants, Moses, led the nation of the Hebrews out of slavery in Egypt back into the lands around Jerusalem.

    About 500 years later with some amount of struggle and false steps in between, the shepard-king David brought this nation of 12 ancestral tribes into a time of greatness. His son, Solomon, built the first Temple, at what is now the Temple Mount in Jerusalem.

    500 or so later, a chastened band of returning exiles, set free by King Cyrus of Persia, set about under the leadership of Zerubbabel, to build a second Temple in Jerusalem, even though it was described as a humble replica of the grandeur of Solomon’s Temple.

    Another 500 years later, now about 2000 years ago, Jesus the Christ lived in and around this region, and worshiped in another grand Temple, this one built by a king named Herod.

    About 500 years later, this Temple had been reduced to rubble by the authority of the Roman Empire, which by this time had itself disintegrated. Some semblance of it continued far to the east, centered around the city of Constantinople, now Istanbul, Turkey.

    500 years later, the Roman Pope and the Eastern Pope of Constantinople, finally recognized their two branches of Christianity were too different in too many important matters to remain in any semblance of unity, resulting in the Great Schism and the rise of the Eastern Orthodox Church.

    500 years ago, Christians in much of Northern Europe, through some adversity, were able to extricate their beliefs from the grip of the Vatican, during what is called the Protestant Reformation.

    And so here we are, 500 years later. Alive in the era of Donald Trump, President of the United States of America.

    Each one of these time periods of Judeo-Christian history occurred as a result of active Divine intervention and guidance.

    Each of these times God worked through real flesh and blood humans. With the singular exception of Jesus of Nazareth, every other human God raised up for these times were deeply flawed, very imperfect people.

    Each of these, while maybe aware they had a role to play on the stage of history, may never have thought their accounts would be relevant thousands of years and miles later.

    All of these epochs involved significant course corrections for the pathway of God’s people. These corrections usually involved some amount of civil strife and unrest, if not terrible destruction.

    But each and every time God’s hand of blessing and mercy guided and nurtured His nation of believers forward into another chapter in His Story of His Church.

    To me, this Pattern is just too consistent and too powerful to ignore.

    And so, 500 years from now, we may all be gathered together in Heaven. But if not I want to speculate that Christians around the world, will look at this epoch of history, as the days when God raised up yet another flawed sinner named Donald Trump to deliver yet another course correction for His people.

    None of my words will lead any one to Faith. That’s for God’s word and His Spirit. None of this may be new or all that exciting. All I ask for anyone who wants to know more of the power, the love, the mercy and the grace of God, to at least recognize this Pattern and maybe wonder if God has a role for you as well

    I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth.

    And in Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, our Lord; Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary; Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, died, and was buried; He descended into hell.
    The third day He rose again from the dead; He ascended into heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God the Father Almighty; From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

    I believe in the Holy Ghost.
    I believe in the holy Christian church; the communion of saints; The forgiveness of sins; The resurrection of the body; And the life everlasting.

    AMEN.

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  9. L&L says:

    Starat video at 32:40

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    • Pale rider says:

      Very good stuff! Always comes back to Hillary so why is she alive and free. But why is Soros alive also? There is enough evidence to sentence either one to death many times over.
      Clinton ‘machine’ must be the law enforcement of our government, CIA, FBI, DOJ, NSA. Who is actually in charge and makes the calls?
      Hillary wasn’t ‘chosen’ for president because she is insane and would be a threat to all powers in charge and they were scared of the Clintons machine if she ever was president. She is mad at the ‘kingmakers’.
      I wonder how Trump is alive? Could he be causing confusion in the ranks of power, it’s his way. He was expected to be removed quickly and a puppet put in. Makes me wonder who? Pence doesn’t seem ‘it’ but who knows anymore?
      I know this has got to be exposed first I’m just wondering who has ‘The giblets’ to put these traitors in handcuffs? Probably pointless anyway if they own the judges.

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      • Patrick Healy says:

        Pale rider,
        I have wondered for some time who is the puppet master.
        I do not believe Pelosi, any Clinton, any member of the secret service/ spy networks or government departments on their own is in charge – not even soreass.
        My conclusion is it must be the great Masonic goat – Satan.
        How else can one explain how the western world is going to hell in a hand cart?
        – and your great President is the one appointed by God to stop it?

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        • VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms says:

          Please see my post from early this am, the struggle of the people of God will never be over until Judgement Day.

          “The Church’s One Foundation”

          1. The Church’s one foundation
          Is Jesus Christ, her Lord;
          She is His new creation
          By water and the Word.
          From heaven He came and sought her
          To be His holy bride;
          With His own blood He bought her,
          And for her life He died.

          2. Elect from every nation,
          Yet one o’er all the earth,
          Her charter of salvation
          One Lord, one faith, one birth.
          One holy name she blesses,
          Partakes one holy food,
          And to one hope she presses,
          With every grace endued.

          3. The Church shall never perish!
          Her dear Lord, to defend,
          To guide, sustain, and cherish,
          Is with her to the end.
          Though there be those that hate her.
          False sons within her pale,
          Against both foe and traitor
          She ever shall prevail.

          4. Though with a scornful wonder
          Men see her sore oppressed,
          By schisms rent asunder,
          By heresies distressed,
          Yet saints their watch are keeping;
          Their cry goes up, “How long?”
          And soon the night of weeping
          Shall be the morn of song.

          5. Mid toil and tribulation
          And tumult of her war
          She waits the consummation
          Of peace forevermore,
          Til with the vision glorious
          Her longing eyes are blest
          And the great Church victorious
          Shall be the Church at rest.

          by Samuel J. Stone, 1839-1900
          Composer: Samuel S. Wesley, 1864
          Tune: “Aurelia”

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        • mandy says:

          I believe that God sets up kings and pulls down kings (I think that’s in several places, pretty sure in Daniel).

          That said, I also believe that God does not interfere with the FREE WILL of any individual (including those He sets up as kings – that’s from Kings, IIRC).

          And with THAT said, I believe that President Trump was ‘set up by God,’ but … and this is really hard for me because I was a super staunch Trump supporter…

          because he exercised his free will in ways that are CONTRARY TO THE LORD, God has removed His hand from this presidency.

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  10. Garrison Hall says:

    Have a blessed Sunday, everyone . . . 🙂

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  11. A2 says:

    Report: ‘Intense’ spike in Christian persecution after China’s secret deal with Vatican

    New Telegraph, January 12, 2020

    Chinese authorities subjected Catholic believers in China to increased persecution by demolishing churches, removing crosses, and continuing to detain underground clergy.’

    Religious persecution in China has increased rapidly over the past year, according to a new U.S. government report. The “intensity” of persecution, which, the report states, has not been seen “since the Cultural Revolution,” was linked to the Vatican signing a secret deal with the Chinese communist government to give the government power over the country’s Catholic Church.

    Read more here👇
    https://catholiccitizens.org/issues/chinese-underground/90579/report-intense-spike-in-christian-persecution-after-chinas-secret-deal-with-vatican/

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  12. citizen817 says:

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  13. Janie M. says:

    Another interesting article from one of my favorite sites, wiseGEEK.
    The honeybees’ version of a pat-down. Makes sense to me.

    Are Honeybee Colonies Welcoming to Newcomers?

    [snip]

    Honeybees sometimes allow “drifters” from other hives to move in, but will
    repel those looking to steal honey.

    It’s fairly common for a honeybee to stray from its colony and check out
    other hives. When these migrant bees do show up at another buzzing abode,
    they are met by a group of guard bees that conduct a 30-second inspection,
    analyzing the visitor’s chemical markers. These typically are hive-specific
    hydrocarbon traces that tell the guards about genetic factors and comb wax
    related to the visitor. If there are enough chemical similarities, the new
    bee is allowed to enter. Researchers at the University of Queensland in
    Australia estimate that 30 percent of drifters are allowed to stay.

    Read More:
    http://www.wisegeek.com/are-honeybee-colonies-welcoming-to-newcomers.htm?m

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  14. Dora says:

    Vincent van Gogh = The Grove, 1890

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  15. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.”
    Hebrews 4:16 (KJV)

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  17. getfitnow says:

    FTA – The government of Mexico is offering about 4,000 jobs to caravan migrants from Honduras who are currently attempting to make their way through Guatemala. “There is a way for them to have work. My ideal is full employment – work for everyone… and the right to work guaranteed,” Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador said in a Friday press conference reported on by the Anadolu Agency.
    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/01/18/mexico-offers-4k-jobs-to-honduran-caravan-migrants/

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  18. Dora says:

    Thanks to Francis and his comrades!

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  20. just stevie says:

    VISION AND DARKNESS

    “An horror of great darkness fell upon him.” Genesis xv. 12

    Whenever God gives a vision to a saint, He puts him, as it were, in the shadow of His hand, and the saint’s duty is to be still and listen. Genesis xvi. is an illustration of listening to good advice when it is dark instead of waiting for God to send the light. When God gives a vision and darkness follows, wait. God will make you in accordance with the vision He has given if you will wait His time. Never try and help God fulfil His word. Abraham went through thirteen years of silence, but in those years all self-sufficiency was destroyed; there was no possibility left of relying on common-sense ways. Those years of silence were a time of discipline, not of displeasure. Never pump up joy and confidence, but stay upon God (cf. Isaiah l. 10,11).

    Have I any confidence in the flesh? Or have I got beyond all confidence in myself and in men and women of God; in books and prayers and ecstasies; and is my confidence place now in God Himself, not in His blessings? “I am the Almighty God” – El-Shaddai, the Father-Mother God. The one thing for which we are all being disciplined is to know that God is real. As soon as God becomes real, other people become shadows. Nothing that other saints do or say can ever perturb the one who is built on God.

    Oswald Chambers
    January 19th Devotional

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  21. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  22. Sepp says:

    . . . but deliver us from the Evil One.

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  23. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on the event of the Baptism of Christ, on:

    1. His humble coming to Jordan, unknown to all but John.
    2. His immersion in the water, the fluttering of the dove above Him and the voice from on high.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau) for today – January 6th – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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  24. Sepp says:

    Feast of the Holy Theophany of our Lord and God and Saviour Jesus Christ

    January 6th traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church / January 19th civil calendar

    Dismissal Hymn
    When Thou wast baptized in the Jordan, O Lord, the worship of the Trinity was made manifest; for the voice of the Father bare witness to Thee, calling Thee His beloved Son. And the Spirit in the form of a dove confirmed the certainty of the word. O Christ our God, Who hast appeared and hast enlightened the world, glory be to Thee.

    Kontakion
    Thou hast appeared today unto the whole world, and Thy light, O Lord, hath been signed upon us who with knowledge chant unto Thee: Thou hast come, Thou hast appeared, O Unapproachable Light.

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  25. TwoLaine says:

    Harry & Megan’s announcement and how the English monarchy took it.

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  26. Pale rider says:

    Enjoy your day Treepers, not that you need permission but sometimes we forget it is our choice.

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  27. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Another small step today on the road back to American manned spaceflight.

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  28. David mitchell says:

    Everyone should buy this book, read it and then give it to the democrat the know who’s most likely to still have an open mind…or, mail it directly to Joe’s campaign with a personal note…

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  29. booger71 says:

    Congratulations to the Kansas City Chiefs…back to the Super Bowl first time in 50 years.

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  30. Lucille says:

    Laughter being the best medicine…a few things that made me laugh today…

    Lucky Ferals YouTube Channel (Gray striped tabby: Simba; Black & White: Splash)

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  31. dogsmaw says:

    Nevertheless…

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  32. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  33. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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