January 17th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1093

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566 Responses to January 17th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1093

  1. lawrencepaul1 says:

    Senate Republicans To ‘Weaponize’ Impeachment Witnesses If Moderate Colleagues Side With Dems

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    • WRB says:

      Apparently the rules are that the Senators have to sit at their wooden desks and keep their yaps shut, and listen to the yammering of the house managers, and then the defense.

      Usually, these clowns can’t manage to sit through a committee hearing, dashing in to ask a question, then leaving. No more than two or three ever attend the whole thing.

      I can not imagine these pampered sots, after sitting through a few days of BS, voting to extend their torture by calling for witnesses, especially when there is serious political danger to themselves.

      I am counting on the Senators being lazy, vain, weak and pragmatic. If this goes more than a week, I will be surprised.

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  2. islandpalmtrees says:

    Can imagine the lack of sensibility of this , but again the Director of the FBI is involved.

    I pulled this car over because the driver, might speed!

    FBI Arrests 3 Alleged White Supremacists Over Concerns They Might Engage in Violence at Virginia Gun Rally

    Liked by 6 people

    • Bendix says:

      Sounds real legal.

      Liked by 2 people

      • lolli says:

        Sounds like Bill Barr’s new precrime bill that was passed. They can foresee crimes and prevent them. Ya, like mind readers. Cool, huh? /s

        Could be any one of us just for being deplorable.

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        • Judith says:

          Sounds like false flags are planted in VA just they were in Charlottesville. Actors are bused in to create just the right “disturbance” to legitimize their pre-planned “solution.” It’s the Marxist’s typical m.o.

          Mix in a handful of bad actors to disrupt a peaceable rally. Mix in a handful of *crazy* white gunslingers to facilitate an unconsitutional gun grab. These are pure Alinsky tactics unleashed on an unsuspecting public to acquire a desired result. How can people *not* see what they are up to?


    • thedoc00 says:

      This is the new “intent” criteria created by Comie being applied. Listen to Pelosi, the “intent” criteria has been appropriated from the DoJ to form the basis of the impeachment. Mike Robinson has a valid point about a de facto Bill of Attainder being created by the House.

      “Intent” is not a crime but a mitigating factor applied when discussing a crime that has been committed.

      The DoJ and House of Representatives have created a living version of the movie “The Minority Report”.


    • decisiontime16 says:

      Pre-Crime enforcement

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    • CM-TX says:

      Thought-Crime! How’s that going to work exactly?! 🤨

      These Leftist Morons need to be made to wish they’d never made such a mockery of the Justice System. It should be their last thought as the door to their cells clang shut, or worse.


    • Robert Smith says:

      In the old days the FBI actions might be FBI arrests 3 people over concerns They might be Black.


  3. getfitnow says:

    FTA – The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California ruled Friday that children do not have standing to sue the Trump administration and the federal government for not adequately addressing climate change.

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    • FofBW says:

      This would have never happened 3 years ago

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    • Obviously, “no one, adult let alone a child, has standing in Federal Court” to sue the Government for having not yet passed some piece of legislation that the appellant was in favor of. If you believe that the US Government “is not adequately addressing climate change, according to you,” then the prescribed place to begin is with a letter to your Representative and your Senator. You have no privilege to use the Honorable Court as a “heavy” by which to impose your opinion on the rest of us.

      “Yeah. It’s called ‘Democracy.’ Sux when you have an agenda, doesn’t it?”

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  4. avi says:

    i didn’t realize that Nadler is only 5’3″,
    someone that short and fat likely has orbiting moons

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  5. linda4298 says:

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  6. linda4298 says:

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  7. David says:

    PDJT Tweet:
    “The GOA got it exactly backwards. Here’s what they said. The law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities to those Congress has enacted into law. It’s exactly the opposite. The Constitution does not allow Congress to substitute its own priorities….

    Every battle is about the Rule of Law (criminal codes) and the Constitution.

    PDJT Knows this is a Legal Civil War and he has a bound duty to enforce the Rule of Law (Constitution) and to implement Justice.

    PDJT has mountains of evidence and written laws. The criminal has No evidence and fake laws.

    PDJT has the written U.S. Constitution. The criminals have a Fake/Globalist Constitution

    PDJT has strategically set up an unbeatable hand to implement Justice.

    PDJT has many powers and paths to implement Justice.

    PDJT like any common-sense reasonable person; will implement Justice.


    • Nicole says:

      Yep…when someone is going to destroy you (PDJT/U.S.) and you have a 100% legal solid opportunity to stop and destroy them first; you implement the opportunity. Nobody would be that stupid and do nothing (commit suicide)!


  8. the Virginia Governor fits the classic definition of a notsee. Socialist, racist, eugenicist, and wants to disarm the population. Most likely looking for his own Reichstag moment in Richmond.

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  9. lawrencepaul1 says:

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  10. MDNA I says:

    Sources for CD Media inside Ukraine describe Hancharuk as a plant by pro-Soros (meaning pro-US Democratic Party) forces in the country to control the newly-elected Ukrainian president and prevent further disclosures of American organized crime activities inside Ukraine, as the Burisma/Biden sordid affair seriously threatened the Deep State’s hold on power inside the United States. The Soros machine which feeds Leftist positions in the US government has a tight reign on most ministries in the former Soviet country.

    Sources in-country tell CD Media that several entities could be behind the release of the audio tapes:

    1. Nationalist forces which want to drive Soros-connected operatives from the country.
    2. Oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky’s operation which wants to push Ukraine to give back control of Privat Bank.
    3. Russian security services who want to weaken the Zelenskiy government.



  11. sunnyflower5 says:

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    • BitchyPants says:

      I LOVE Ted Cruz – He is the smartest Senator in the entire Senate
      He should replace Mitch when the time comes…
      My question is: Where the hell is John Cornyn? He is up for re-election and you almost never see him? Ted is everywhere but hello – where are ya John?
      How about a little support for President Trump?
      Did I mention how much I love Ted Cruz?


  12. sunnyflower5 says:

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  13. sunnyflower5 says:

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  14. Bendix says:

    I sincerely hope this young woman has learned a thing or two, and has come around to seeing the president the way we and a good many of her constituents do.

    That part about raising the profile of her opponent as well isn’t exactly true, outside money is being poured into the campaign of whoever runs against Elise, and it isn’t because they like Tedra, it’s because they fear Elise.

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  15. citizen817 says:

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  16. jeans2nd says:

    Don’t forget, OAN, in half hour at 7 p.m. Eastern –

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  17. Troublemaker10 says:


    • Troublemaker10 says:

      Trump tweet translation for above:

      “The noble people of Iran, who love America, deserve a government that will help them achieve their dreams, rather than focusing on killing them for revenge. Instead of dragging Iran to ruin, Iran’s leaders must put aside the terrorists and magnify Iran again!”

      Liked by 1 person

      • VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms says:

        Please pardon my correction, I saw this:

        Donald J. Trump Donald J. Trump
        The noble people of Iran—who love America—deserve a government that’s more interested in helping them achieve their dreams than killing them for demanding respect. Instead of leading Iran toward ruin, its leaders should abandon terror and Make Iran Great Again

        Make Iran Great Again!

        I love it.

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  18. decisiontime16 says:

    In case anyone had doubts about GWB…

    George W. Bush cuts a big check to Susan Collins reelection fund…



    • MDNA I says:

      In 2018, W was pulling strings for Trump to get Kavanaugh over the line b/c Kavanaugh, W, & GHW all belonged to the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity @ Yale. W even campaigned during the midterms for Senators, picking up some of the slack for Trump as gratitude for standing by his “boy”

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      • gda53 says:

        Hopefully that cheque came with conditions attached – support the integrity of the constitution or else. Stop with the silly “witness: thing.

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        • MDNA I says:

          Legacy “Elites” are a strange breed. A lot of the time the traditions get eroded & the gene pool dries up. Most of the time. But I’ve always wondered if witnessing what was being done to the Senate, behind closed doors too, didn’t “raise the specter” of Prescott Bush

          Prescott was an Establishment man, but of the Patrician mold. Fastidious about morals, decorum, etc “A Senate Man” his nickname was the “10 Commandments Man” b/c he constantly called out even family members for their improprieties

          He once lectured Joseph McCarthy for an hour, to no avail, that it was immoral to curse @ his rallies & whip the crowds up into a frenzy


    • sunnydaze says:

      Is no one Primarying her? sheesh.


  19. convert says:

    Question for all you super-smart people.VA is getting ready to pass the law that awards VA electoral votes to the winner of the national vote regardless of how it’s citizens vote. how many other states have done that? And is this going to be allowed by the Supreme Court? It’s a travesty,a blatent usurping of the Constitution, and a defacto dismantling of our structure as a republic.

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    • Plainly Unconstitutional, but of course they will try it anyhow. Very plainly, the Founders conceived “the Electoral College” as a means of countering the same fundamental thing which still confronts us today: that certain States have wildly-disproportionate populations relative to the others. They therefore specifically intended that the States will elect the President, using a system patterned after the House. This system is expressly intended to balance against the natural bias that would be inherent in a “popular vote,” which of course would be dominated by the most-populous States.

      The Members of this State’s legislatures must of course be aware that, by tying their bundle of Electoral votes, not to the will of the populace of their State but to “the popular majority,” they would therefore be able to use the size of their Electoral quota as a cudgel against the other States.

      The 12th Amendment, however, makes it abundantly clear that each State acts autonomously – and, implicitly, “as directed by their population.” Most recently, even the residents of the District of Columbia are guaranteed their tiny say in the outcome.

      Obviously here there is material for a new Amendment: to affirm that the official decision made by any State must be based upon the will (only …) of the people within that State. This loophole must be closed. There are fifty States here, and yes, “Wyoming still has a say.”

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      • gabytango says:

        Thanks for this beautiful explanation, Mike!!


      • thedoc00 says:

        Mike you need to be made aware of a Supreme Court Case I just learned was taken up today. The court said it would take up the case of Chiafalo v. State of Washington, where three so-called “faithless electors” who were fined after voting in 2016 for Colin Powell are challenging whether a state can bind an elector to select the state’s popular vote winner. This major implications regarding this case (and other Democrat Controlled States passing similar legislation).

        This could even result in proportional allocation of a states vote per the outcome of the state’s popular vote and elimination of electors.


      • J says:

        The Framers were well aware of the “tyranny of the majority”. Ben Franklin famously said: “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.”

        John Stuart Mill in his book “On Liberty”, explains how dangerous the majority pursuing its own interests at the exclusion of the minority, could be. Fifty one people can make slaves of the other 49 in pure Democracy.

        Or if you prefer pop culture, Mel Gibsons character in “The Patriot” says: “Why should I trade one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants one mile away?”


    • Respectfully, I think you are mis-reading the proposed VA law. It goes into effect only in cases where the Electoral College total and the national popular vote are divergent. If the popular and Electoral winner is the same, there is no change from the current system of assigning electors. Therefore, it might reflect the will of the voters of a state, or it might alter them. We do not currently have direct elections for US president and VP (most votes wins). The Electoral College was originally an attempt to compromise between direct elections through the states and having Congress internally select the president/VP.

      These are legislative attempts to mitigate what some perceive as a systemic unfairness in our elections, in that a president and VP can currently be elected with fewer total votes than an opposing candidate. Those favoring NPV (National Popular Vote) laws suggest the original historical justifications for the Electoral College are no longer needed, and that states additionally have the Constitutional right to assign electors according to whatever method they choose.

      There are substantial and complex legal arguments both for and against. Polls have been taken every year since Bush v. Gore on this issue, and by a narrow margin more people favor these kinds of laws than oppose them. The bill in VA is projected to pass easily. Residents of that state favor it by a three-to-one margin.

      Fifteen other states plus DC have passed similar laws since 2007, and more are pending. We don’t know whether the US Supreme Court will ultimately allow it or not. They haven’t agreed to hear a case challenging these laws.


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  20. gda53 says:

    Undercover Huber:
    “CNN says Nunes should have asked for a written retraction within 20 days as required by California law.
    CNN implies they would have had to retract had Nunes done this. Which is true, as their report is false. Which makes Parnas lawyer a documented on the record liar
    As Nunes didn’t serve a retraction request in writing within 20 days, this limits Nunes to claiming direct economic damages, which his complaint didn’t do with specificity. So CNN says it must be dismissed.

    CNN does NOT claim that its report that @DevinNunes met Shokin in Vienna is actually true
    Instead, they say they correctly *reported* (*cough regurgitated*) what Parnas lawyer *said to them*”

    Motion to dismiss. Looks like mostly a “win” for CNN, though Nunes could refill claiming “economic damage”.

    Hard to believe Nunes missed that 20 day retraction thing, but I guess he had lots of other things on his mind.

    I wonder if he could refile in another jurisdiction with no such rule.


  21. My second Georgia Senator – (God bless her, did she know what she was signing up for?) – was appointed to the Office last week. Here’s what I just said to her web-site:

    Heh… welcome aboard, Senator. First weeks on the job and now this? Well, thank you for your service. I will be brief. The Senate is now faced for the first time with UNCONSTITUTIONAL Articles of Impeachment, unlike all the rest. (1) There is no crime for which the accused would face “indictment, trial, conviction and punishment.” (2) These are a classic Bill of Attainder, which our Constitution forbade twice. The Senate, instead of playing the House’s chess-game, should throw the table to the floor. Our forefathers anticipated everything that now occurs. They placed their faith in the Senate – as now do I.

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  22. jeans2nd says:

    Wow. Did you all watch John Spiropolous” program tonight just now on OAN?
    Mr Spiropolous did an outstanding job. He made the IG FISA report so simple and easy to understand. Pres Trump should use it as a campaign commercial.

    If you missed it tonight, make certain to catch it tomorrow at 7 p.m. Eastern. It is worth your time – and, no commercials ! What a joy.


  23. sunnydaze says:

    Another Liberal Hack reporter that the DemMSM loves to defend so much. This guy is an “award winning” journalist who’s worked for CBS, Yahoo, Examiner acc’dg to his twitter. Read the thread. Total whacko. Maybe CNN will want to interview him, or give him his own show w/ Ana Navarro or something.


  24. sunnydaze says:

    Conservative Momma as Nancy Pelosi:

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  25. Jimmy R says:

    Morgan Ortagus:

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  26. paintbrushsage says:

    Mary McCord’s rationale sounds pretty familiar. Feels like what is going on now with this impeachment. All the usual players in this saga: Norman Eisen, Adam Schiff, etc…


    pg. 1

    Washington, D.C.
    Wednesday, October 3, 2018
    Senior Fellow, Governance Studies
    The Brookings Institution

    Opening Remarks: The State of the Rule of Law in America Today:
    U.S. Senate

    Panel 1: National Security and Law Enforcement:
    BENJAMIN WITTES, Moderator
    Senior Fellow, Governance Studies, The Brookings Institution
    Co-Founder and Editor-in-Chief, Lawfare

    Ranking Member, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence
    U.S. House of Representatives

    Visiting Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law Center
    Senior Litigator, Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection

    Senior Counsel, Crowell & Moring
    Former United States Attorney, Eastern District of Virginia
    Former Senior Official, FBI

    A Conversation with Ken Starr (via remote video): Lessons for the Special
    Counsel Investigation:

    BENJAMIN WITTES, Moderator
    Senior Fellow, Governance Studies, The Brookings Institution
    Co-Founder and Editor-in-Chief, Lawfare

    U.S. Solicitor General (1989-1993)

    pg. 24


    MS. McCORD: I think you also raise a really important question. I think
    it’s very difficult for a lot of people working in government right now, particularly in the
    Department. I will tell you, you know, as a career person myself, I had intended to stay
    until my successor was appointed, and that became increasingly difficult really not only
    from the time this President took office, but certainly from the time Senator Sessions
    came into the Department as the Attorney General. Some of that was for policy reasons
    and some of it — so I think ultimately I came to the conclusion that because I didn’t feel
    that I could actively undermine policy decisions and other things that were being done, I
    needed to leave. Others have chosen a different course.

    I have felt badly about leaving many times because I feel like everybody
    can’t leave. If everybody leaves, you know, we’re in a real problem. But for me in the
    role I was in interfacing with the Attorney General every single day and seeing some of
    the things that were happening, how national security was being used as a justification
    for policy actions that weren’t justified by national security, for me the decision was to

    But I think it’s a difficult one and I don’t really condone purposefully trying
    to undermine the President, but I also understand why people would feel the need to do that.


    After Comey’s firing, acting FBI chief jokes Benghazi controversy was ‘the good ol’ days’
    McCabe was speaking at a farewell gathering for a top Justice Dept. official.
    May 10, 2017


    Sessions made remarks, saying McCord “represents the highest ideals that we all try to achieve every day in this work.”

    “She loves this department. She wants to do the right thing every day,” he said, later joking that she taught him “so many of the complexities of national security … [that] I guess I should have long since known.”



  27. thedoc00 says:

    This has huge implications for 2020 elections, especially with respect to Democrat States looking to suppress and nullify their votes of their own state citizens by binding electoral college votes to the popular vote winner. I did not realize that today the Supreme Court said it would take up the case of Chiafalo v. State of Washington, where three so-called “faithless electors” who were fined after voting in 2016 for Colin Powell are challenging whether a state can bind an elector to select the state’s popular vote winner. This case has major implications.
    1. Can States bind their presidential electors to vote 100% per the State Popular vote.
    2. Can State Legislatures even bind the votes of their electors.
    3. Can States actually move a mandated proportional casting of their State’s votes per outcome the state’s popular vote.
    4. Can states actually do away with electors if they adopt proportional allocation of their electoral votes.
    5. Are the current democrat states mandating electoral votes for national popular vote leader legal.

    I did a spreadsheet in 2016, assuming proportional distribution of votes and Clinton won due to votes cast for the other candidates in battleground states.

    This has major implication regarding the impact of the democrat dirty tricks to successfully include “found votes” and use of fraudulent voters.

    This could even spawn law suits after the 2020 elections.


    • thedoc00 says:

      I did not know this case was winding its way towards the Supreme court and now really brings into focus why States with large cities and sanctuary areas were working so hard in 2017-18 to kill the President’s vote commission lead by the VP. This in addition to the drive by Democrat States to bind their electors to the national popular vote winner.


      • Y’know, this is just what utterly infuriates me about “sanctuaries.” The Immigration Laws of the United States are supposed to protect(!) you. 😲

        Yes, by insisting that you must be here “only if you are legally entitled to be,” these laws were intended to protect you from … precisely the actual situation that you are now in: that (1) you are not present in this country according to law, and!!! you are not quite-instantly being proffered the chance to do so. There is no “Ellis Island” here.

        Simple fact is: “One way or the other, you are on the wrong side of the 13th Amendment.” And, you have been put there on purpose.


        • thedoc00 says:

          Good points except for minor correction. Those laws are still in existence and the President is being prevented by congress (who will not change the laws) and courts (not using laws to support their judgements) from enforcing.

          Point being, there is no “was the law” , it still IS THE LAW.


          • Well, unfortunately for all of us: “Why, exactly, will they not change the law? Why, exactly, do these so-called “loopholes” remain? And even … Why, exactly, do the Courts not manage to enforce?

            I’m very, very sorry to say that the answer has everything to do with the 13th Amendment … for all the wrong reasons that were fully anticipated by those who sought to write it into law in 1865.

            “No, this is no accident.” We still want our slaves, in the form of “undocumented aliens,” and we still want our indentured servants, whom we call “non-immigrant visa holders.”

            2020 – 1865 = 155 years later, the 13th Amendment still has never been realized.


  28. MicD says:

    Schif – human cockroach.
    Nadler – human tick.
    Piglousi – human leech.
    Biden – human crab lice.
    Waters – human stink bug.


  29. sunnydaze says:


    Is Susan Collins *really* running again up there in 2020? And if she is, is there NO Repub. up in Maine who will Primary her?


    • SHV says:

      IMO, Collins is going to have a tough time beating a Dem. challenger this time. A primary challenge would likely kill her chance of re-election. Come down to any R is better than a D and potential loss of Senate majority.


      • sunnydaze says:

        I agree she WILL have a tough time beating her Dem oppponent. Was checking her out earlier. Just going by age and health ALONE , a lot of people will vote for the Dem.

        So WHY isn’t a Repub. primarying her so they can get a BETTER R. to vote for up there?


      • sunnydaze says:

        Do you live up there, SHV? If so, do you really think Rs are gonna be excited to get out and vote for her, *again*?

        I mean, I’d be glad if they did- if that’s all they’ve got- but I’m thinking there’s gotta be a big- and growing- enthusiasm gap for Collins, even among Repub voters.

        Gawd. I’m sick of her and I don’t even live there anymore.


  30. jeans2nd says:

    Recall the ICIG was to have responded to Rep Devin Nunes’ request for info and answers to questions by today?

    The ICIG has yet to respond, per Rep Nunes, just now on John Batchelor show.
    They are all enjoying a good laugh on the Socialist democrat’s latest star witness, Lev Whatsits.
    Rep Nunes is currently suing CN&N for refusing to retract one of Lev Whoisits lies made on CN&N.

    Just FYI – file it away for later use.


    • thedoc00 says:

      Nunes has trouble with his case due to a technicality concerning compliance with a CA law to ask for a retraction within so many days. Saw that earlier today but word on ruling regrading CNN motion to dismiss based on this technicality.

      The interesting part is that CNN acknowledged in their brief they lied but Nunes did not ask them to retract it in time.


    • Reserved55 says:

      Earlier I read in Ca. there is a 20 day requirement that plaintiff request a retraction and Nunes missed the deadline.

      I ‘think’ it was Undercover Huber on Twitter.


  31. RJ says:


  32. Reserved55 says:

    Brad Palumbo from The Examiner supports CN&N over McSally and also supports Northam over 2A Virginians.

    I previously posted both articles. Cam Edwards sets him straight on Virginians vs Northam


    • Robert Smith says:

      2A Sanctuaries are at least based on something while liberal city after liberal city can become sanctuary cities for illegal aliens and nobody can do anything about it.


  33. wtd says:

    This ought to be good for a 5% jump in Trump’s polling numbers.


  34. MDNA I says:

    Something very strange is going on around Parnas……

    ….Eg, ask yourself, how does a wannabe who wasn’t raised in Ukraine try to muscle Kolomoisky unless he has back up or thinks he does?


  35. Troublemaker10 says:


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