Thursday January 16th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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114 Responses to Thursday January 16th – Open Thread

  1. DanDeplorable says:

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  2. citizen817 says:

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  5. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    Grace From Calvary

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam

    If you want to enjoy a real spiritual feast, take a concordance to the Bible and look up the word “grace.” First notice how often this word is found in the four Gospels: only four times and only once in a doctrinal sense. Then notice how often it is used in Paul’s epistles (less than half the size of the four Gospels). Here it is found well over one hundred times and practically always in a doctrinal sense, about the love and mercy of God toward sinners and toward His own. Think of it: only once is grace referred to doctrinally in the four Gospels, yet in Paul’s epistles, less than half as large in volume, it is used more than one hundred times.

    This is because St. Paul was God’s chosen apostle to make known His grace to sinners. In Acts 20:24 he speaks of “the ministry which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.”

    But on what basis could God, through Paul, proclaim salvation by free grace to sinners? Ah, now take your Bible and begin looking up those passages which refer to the cross, the death and the blood of Christ, again noticing that while Paul does not actually relate the story of Christ’s death, he has more, far more, to say about that death, and what it accomplished, than any other Bible writer. It would thrill the heart of any sincere Christian to go through the Epistles of Paul and see how much good news Paul proclaims on the basis of the death of Christ. This is why his message is called “the preaching of the cross” — God’s good news about what Calvary has accomplished for us (1 Cor. 1:17-23).

    In Paul’s epistles we learn that through Christ’s death for us at Calvary believers are “justified,” “accepted” by God, and pronounced “complete in Christ.” By His death they are reconciled to God in one body, given a position at God’s right hand in the highest heavens and assured “the exceeding riches of His grace” in “the ages to come” — this and more! Riches of grace flowing from Calvary; this is the very essence of the glorious message which Paul was raised up to proclaim. Read his epistles and see.

    Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

    1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
    18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
    19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
    20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
    21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
    22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
    23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

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    • TMonroe says:

      “This is because St. Paul was God’s chosen apostle to make known His grace to sinners. In Acts 20:24 he speaks of “the ministry which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.””

      Further information from Paul about his ministry is offered in Acts 20:20-21: “how I did not shrink back from declaring to you anything being profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house, earnestly testifying both to the Jewish and to Greeks repentance in God and faith in our Lord Jesus.”

      Paul’s words came well into his ministry and also well after the Jerusalem Council in Acts 15, where the words of the apostle Peter showcased what the apostles believed: “But we believe ourselves to be saved by the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same manner as they also are” (Acts 15:11).

      Thus, it stands to reason that what was preached going forward (and what had been evidently preached to both Jews and Gentiles from the time of Peter’s revelation from above, cf. Acts 10-11) by all of the apostles and other evangelists (cf. Eph. 4:11, 2 Timothy 4:5) would have involved discussions about salvation “by the grace of the Lord Jesus”. It also stands to reason that those who heard the gospel message from apostles like Peter (and/or read his letters, as he averaged one “grace” reference for each of his epistle chapters, for those keeping score) would have had God’s grace made known to them.

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  6. Lucille says:

    Happy Cursday, Treepers…

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  7. Garrison Hall says:

    When I was in high school one of my friends spent his summer touring with the “new” Glenn Miller band. Even though he was only 15 at the time, he was already a musical prodigy trumpet player. Although I’m sure the band members took good care of him, I’m also pretty sure he got a solid education about just what being a professional one-the-road musician is all about. Most likely, he didn’t tell his parents exactly what that entailed . . . I remember a late summer concert in the park when the band came through town to drop my friend off in time for school to start. It was exciting seeing my friend in the horn section, playing Moonlight Serenade with the pros.

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  8. Garrison Hall says:

    Happy Cursday!

    The 4 week old puppies finally get the hybrid wolf to play with them . . .

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    • amwick says:

      Luckiest pup ever!!!


    • czarowniczy says:

      All of our dogs are ‘volunteers’. People are always dumping their dogs out on our farms for whatever reasons and we’ve had four who’ve been perfect, couldn’t ask for better.

      Our last one was about 3 weeks old when my wife saw it just outside of our gate. She called me and I took the ATV down and found it leaning up against the tire of a big piece of equipment the county was using to clear vegetation, the workers were just staring at her. She just wanted contact with anything, she’d been ripped from the litter and dumped.

      She’s been a great dog, hand-raised and fully accepted by the older dogs since day-one. She’s as protective of the farm as the others though she’s mostly beagle and she loves my great-grandson as much as the other dogs, it’s not unusual to see them all wrapped around him if he falls asleep on the floor. We’re issued the dogs we deserve.

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  10. czarowniczy says:

    I’m starting to hear little blurbs about Iran having enough fissionable material by the end of the year to build at least one bomb. It’s generally presumed that Iran has some hidden small-scale production going on but if they have enough to build a bomb the game changes.

    Iran has a supercomputer coming on line this year so in theory they could model their nuke design and not have to pop one in an easily detected test. These same leaks are talking about ‘uncertainties’ in if Iran has managed to obtain the items necessary to put a nuke on top of their best missiles, more than likely meaning that they’ve been shopping in North Korea and no one knows if NK’s sold them the technology.

    Iran has a number of MRBMs, on the line and in testing, that can easily reach targets in Israel but they need a nuke as just sending HE or even bio weapons wouldn’t be worth the counterstrike. I’m betting they have or are close to having a working mounting system for nukes, which is different than for conventional warheads, but they’re being secretive because there’s a good chance that if Israel and/or the US found out the game would change. We may not know for sure until we see one of their MRBMs with a nuke parked on top.

    I’m betting Israel’s leaking bits about this to get the West to start changing its actions to Iran before Israel has to act on its own and all hell breaks loose in the Mideast. I’m sure they’re providing info to the West’s intel services but are leaking to the press as a backup plan.

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  11. Lucille says:

    Don’t know who wrote this. Found it in one of the dozens of files I’m cleaning out of my computer…thought it was well worth passing on….

    10 Tips for Talking With Your Kids About Tough Issues

    1. Start early.
    2. Initiate conversations with your child.
    3. Listen to your child.
    4. Address any fears.
    5. Create an open environment.
    6. Communicate your own values.
    7. Try to be honest.
    8. Be patient.
    9. Use everyday opportunities to Talk.
    10. Talk about it again. And, again.

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  12. Troublemaker10 says:

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  13. Citizen817 says:

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  14. Pointman says:

    Are we sure this isn’t the real AOC?


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  15. getfitnow says:

    FTA – National news media figure and multiple award-winning, straight-shooting investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson has refiled a lawsuit against the federal government for illegally and unconstitutionally hacking her computers and trespassing at her home. It’s a whopper of a lawsuit, naming high-profile Deep State officials including Rod Rosenstein of Trump Spygate fame (snip) Attkisson’s first lawsuit was dismissed without prejudice for failing to expressly name the government spies and conspirators who hacked her computers and remotely planted classified materials, obviously to set her up.

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  16. Dora says:

    Boris Kustodiev = Shrovetide, 1916

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  17. getfitnow says:

    I’m not sure the reporter expected the refreshing comments her article received.

    FTA – In an early morning raid, sheriff’s deputies evicted a group of mothers illegally occupying a vacant house in Oakland.

    Multiple videos posted by news organizations online show the mothers being pulled out of the house and put in handcuffs by deputies just before 6 a.m. Protesters stood outside chanting “shame on you” at the deputies.

    Alameda County sheriff’s deputies arrested two women and a man during the eviction, a sheriff’s spokesman confirmed. KQED News reported the three arrested were mothers Tolani King and Misty Cross and activist Jesse Turner, all of whom are being charged with obstructing a police officer in the course of their duties. The home’s doors and windows were subsequently boarded up by officers.

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  18. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.”
    Matthew 22:37 (KJV)

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  19. citizen817 says:

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  20. nimrodman says:

    Thirty years ago, I imagine your garden-variety New York cabbie’s response would have been
    “I gotcher pronoun RIGHT HEAH!” (clutches groinal area)

    But today I reckon it’d be an Uber driver who would say
    “Hi- my name is Achmed and I’ll be your driver today”

    New York Cabbies Drafted for Transgender Pronoun Wars

    New York officials are pressuring the city’s 200,000 cabbies and hired drivers to publicly question the sex of their customers.

    “Ask the passenger what their pronoun is,” says an email sent by the “Office of Inclusion” at the city’s Taxi & Limousine Commission.

    ho, boy …

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  21. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  22. just stevie says:


    “I heard the voice of the Lord saying, Whom shall I send?” Isaiah vi. 8

    When we speak of the call of God, we are apt to forget the most important feature, viz., the nature of the One Who calls. There is the call of the sea, the call of the mountains, the call of the great ice barriers, but these calls are only heard by the few. The call is the expression of the nature from which it comes, and we can only record the call if the same nature is in us. The call of God is the expression of God’s nature, not of our nature. There are strands of the call of God providentially at work for us which we recognize and no one else does. It is the threading of God’s voice to us in some particular matter, and it is no use consulting anyone else about it. We have to keep that profound relationship between our souls and God.

    The call of God is not the echo of my nature; my affinities and personal temperament are not considered. As long as I consider my personal temperament and think about what I am fitted for, I shall never hear the call of God. But when I am brought into relationship with God, I am in the condition Isaiah was in. Isaiah’s soul was so attuned to God by the tremendous crisis he had gone through that he recorded the call of God to his amazed soul. The majority of us have no ear for anything but ourselves, we cannot hear a thing God says. To be brought into the zone of the call of God is to be profoundly altered.

    Oswald Chambers
    January 16th Devotional

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  23. Dora says:

    I love this. 🙂

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  24. Dora says:

    Getting some morning exercise.

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  25. Dora says:


    CANTERBURY, England ( – Britain’s pre-eminent advocate of abortion, responsible for killing 70,000 babies in 2019, has been awarded a doctorate at a ceremony hosted by the mother church of the global Anglican Communion.

    Dean of Canterbury Robert Willis, responsible for hosting the ceremony, is refusing to address the morality of the event, while Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby is claiming a lack of “consensus about precisely when life begins in the womb.”


  26. markmurraybooks says:

    WV, my home state, leading the way to Freedom! WV inviting Virginia counties and/or cities to join the State of WV!

    You have to love how they worded the resolution. It’s a must read.

    Whereas, In the latest, and most evident, in this string of grievances, the government at Richmond now seeks to place intolerable restraints upon the rights guaranteed under the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution to the citizens of that Commonwealth; and

    Whereas, The Legislative body of West Virginia believes that this latest action defies the wise counsel which has come down to us in the august words of our common Virginia Founders: as the government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of that tribune of liberty, Patrick Henry-who stated to the Virginia Ratifying Convention in 1788 that “The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun”; and

    Whereas, The government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of a Signer of the Declaration and premier advocate of American independence, Richard Henry Lee-who stated in The Federal Farmer that “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms”; and

    Whereas, The government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of that zealous guardian of our inherent rights, George Mason-who stated that “To disarm the people…[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them”; and

    Whereas, The government at Richmond now repudiates the counsel of the declaimer of our independence and theoretician of our freedoms, Thomas Jefferson-who stated in his first draft of the Virginia Constitution, that “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms”; and

    Whereas, The Boards of Supervisors of many Virginia counties and the Councils of many Virginia cities have recognized this dangerous departure from the doctrine of the Founders on the part of the government at Richmond; and

    Whereas, These Boards of Supervisors and Councils have passed resolutions refusing to countenance what they affirm are unwarranted and unconstitutional measures by that government to infringe the firearm rights of Virginians; and

    Whereas, The actions of the government at Richmond undertaken since the recent general election have, regrettably, resulted in unproductive contention and escalating a lamentable state of civic tension; and


  27. Sepp says:

    . . . but deliver us from the Evil One.

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  28. Sepp says:

    To Ponder

    Let me ponder on my Holy Guardian Angel:

    1. How he stands at my right hand, sustaining me and strengthening me to cleave to the commandments of God.
    2. How I have many times insulted him and driven him from me, sinning against the commandments of God.

    From “The Prologue from Ohrid” by Saint Nikolai (Serbian-born Bishop who reposed in the USA and was a former prisoner at Dachau) for today – January 3rd – on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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    • Sepp says:

      Saint Geneviève, Patron Saint of Paris is among the Saints commemorated today, January 3rd, on the traditional Calendar of the Orthodox Christian Church. She lived during the fifth century.

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  29. Linda K. says:

    “Journalist Henry Louis Mencken once observed, ‘Say what you will about the Ten Commandments, you must always come back to the pleasant fact that there are only ten of them,’” Turley wrote. “Despite unending respect for Mencken, this is an occasion in which I found him mistaken, after I violated the Eleventh Commandment, ‘Thou shalt not testify for Republicans.’”

    Jonathan Turley on the 11th Commandment.

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  30. czarowniczy says:

    Not expecting what we saw we watched the premiere of ’68 Whiskey’ on Paramount last night. It wasn’t so much the hype but since Ron Howard’s an executive producer ewe thought we’d give it a go.

    It opens with two medics having graphic sex in a supply room and goes down from there. The medics deploy to an Afghan village and bring back a severely wounded Afghan national who speaks three languages only to have the chief surgeon chide them for bringing in a national and wasting medical supplies that are for American use. Some more graphic sex talk and then on to two of the main medics who are stealing medical supplies and trading them to Afghans (Taliban?) for hashish. While in the village trading the drugs for drugs they run into a shadowy American figure who leads a group of heavily armed men dressed in civilian clothes who all drive around in big, black SUVs. Implications are that these are evil Blackwater-type contractors who are going to do something evil to the village soon.

    It ends with a female medic finding out from gher commander that she’s being involuntarily discharged from the Army, immediately, as her DACA status is being revoked and she’s to be sent back to the US and deported. “But I was promised citizenship”, she whines. Fade to yuck.

    It’s billed as a new ‘MASH’ for a new generation. A generation of millennial Democrats maybe, but it’s an insult to serving and veterans who’ve served not only since 911 but back to the Revolutionary War. We’re not seeing the bored sarcasm of MASH, we’re seeing US troops portrayed as uncaring, drug dealing and having the morals of an alley cat. If this is MASH it’s MASH as done by Larry Flynt with a touch of Tarantino. It’s off my ‘watch list’.

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  31. Lucille says:

    East coast unveils new laws aiming to outlaw hunting dogs, shooting ranges
    Posted by James E. Lewis | Jan 11, 2020

    A plethora of new laws proposed in several states on the Eastern part of the United States are seemingly aimed directly at gun owners, sport hunters, gun ranges, and now even hunting dogs.


    • Boots says:

      WOW! An in your face assault on Constitutional rights! FTA:

      Legislation pre-filed in Virginia by State Delegate Dan Helmer would heavily restrict private indoor shooting ranges and require extensive background information on people who frequent them.
      >>> Why? What crimes have been committed that predicate this?

      Legislation pre-filed in New York by State Senator James Sanders would require anyone wishing to purchase a firearm to first pass a mental health evaluation.
      >>> What about mental health exams for anyone wanting to become a police officer?
      >>> What’s next, mental health exams for “conspiracy theorists”?

      Pennsylvania State Representative Joseph Hohenstein has introduced House Bill 2104, which would make it a crime to leave a dog outside even on days with moderate temperatures. House Bill 2104 would make it a crime to keep your dog in the back yard on a 65-degree day without access to a shelter.

      Current PA law recognizes the need to acclimate hunting dogs to weather conditions and provides an exemption for dogs used in hunting and field trials. This legislation would specifically remove these protections for sportsmen and their dogs.


    • mikeyboo says:

      Waiting for them to outlaw birth-global warming doncha know.


  32. Lucille says:

    Military Dog Is SO Happy To Finally Be Home With His Dad
    The Dodo Reunited – Published on Jan 5, 2019

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  33. Mary Van Deusen says:

    Rory’s World – Joseph Blanchard – Catnip Cape

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  34. Mary Van Deusen says:

    Night Visitors – Joseph Blanchard – Whimsical Foray

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  35. mark says:

    Thanks Treepers, I had to come back here to the open thread this afternoon. After watching our government today I just want to vomit. So I came back here to reread posts and watch cursday videos. I now have a smile on my face and a new outlook for the rest of the day, thanks Treepers!

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  36. Lucille says:

    Cultural Marxism strikes again…

    Why Mailchimp’s Cancelling of Stefan Molyneux Signals the DEMISE of Liberalism!!!
    Dr. Steve Turley – Published on Jan 16, 2020


  37. czarowniczy says:

    And while everyone’s dazzled and distracted by the ‘bright and shiny impeachment on a string’ a red alert was issued in Mexicali after a report tha Hezbollah members armed with explosives are going to try and, with the help of the Sinaloa cartel, cross into the US.

    It sounds like a TV production but Hezbollah’s long had a relationship with various Mexican cartels, supplying training, arms, ammunition and explosives. We’re not openly hearing they’re supplying the cartels RPGs but we are hearing they’re stockpiling ‘anti-armor’ items and the cartels have been using RPGs in attacks for some time. We’re also not openly hearing, or at least not widely, that some of the M-16s confiscated from the cartel and other ‘not specified’ sources have been tracked back to Iraq.

    If we go back to October of last year fire teams from the Sinaloa cartel attacked members of the Mexican police and army that had come into Culiacan and captured el Chapo’s son. They freed el Chapo’s son and soundly kicked the butts of both, forcing them to flee the town. A number of people commented on the almost military precision of the cartel’s operations but stopped short of saying it was due to Hezbollah training though the techniques used bore a striking resemblance to Haz’s. Probably just a coincidence.

    There’s long been a fear in the business of the Mexican cartels setting up a major operational node in the Southwest and if Hezbollah joins with them it’s going to be an interesting time…especially depending on what state(s) they set up in. But then the Democrats who seem to support Fundamentalist Moslem terrorism and cartel drug operations will make sure nothing bad happens, we dun neeeed no steeeeenkin wall!

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    • mandy says:

      I don’t see anything on a new ‘red alert;’ not since the one that was issued on Jan 10 that lasted for 72 hours. Is that the one you’re talking about?


      • czarowniczy says:

        Not sure, my guy didn’t give me a date just that there was a warning for the Mexicalio side and BP/US military working the US side.

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Apparently is as the number of bodies match. The Sinaloa and previous cartels have been great assets to Hez and other ‘assets’ getting over the US border for decades but they’re usually categorized as ‘Middle Easterners’.


  38. Yuck 😝

    I don’t CARE if she’s a D or R if she’s a muslim! Can’t they do any better than that?

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  39. Sepp says:

    In May of 2017, several conservative scholars, historians, and thinkers met in Paris to write The Paris Statement. It is an affirmation of the Christian civilization of Europe on many levels. It is available in 25 languages.

    The recently reposed Sir Roger Scruton was a signatory of The Paris Statement.

    A Europe We Can Believe In

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  40. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  41. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  42. mandy says:


    “Active Shooter Drill in The Loop Planned for Sunday

    The exercise will take place between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m. Sunday”

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  43. mandy says:


    There’s at least one casting call for ‘crisis actors’ for an “ongoing live roleplaying project.” Don’t know how or if this relates to the anti 2nd Amendment stuff or not…


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