December 10th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1055

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1,293 Responses to December 10th – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1055

    • NC Nana says:

      This is a good interview. I saw it on tweets at this site earlier today. The interview was good enough that I thought I would watch it again. BUT, voice over kept on saying the same thing, over and over “Grabien, Multi-Media”. Is there a way of shutting that voice over off?

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  1. Sentient says:

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    • PInky1920 says:

      They’re doing what they do best; lying, obfuscation and general ****ery.

      They’ll be back; they’re recalibrating.

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    • Paprika says:

      This is exactly what I have been watching. And ‘lo and behold’, it is amazing how few polls have come out in the past week regarding PT’s approval or the impeachment process.

      Amazing how hyped it has been, and yet, so few polls? Wonder why? Bet you’re surprised, eh!?! I find it amusing with as much as they already skew and ‘weight’ the polls, that they’re still afraid to publish the polls that they’ve obviously been taking.

      But as Horowitz says; ” No one specifically stated on record that their politically biased opinions effected their actions, therefore I can’t say there was actual political bias”, don’t ya know!?!

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  2. cheekymeeky says:

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  3. bullnuke says:

    Why in the hell did Horowitz have to say he found no bias? He was there to determine if procedures were followed not determine motives. If he found a smoking gun that proved bias then admit it but absolutely no excuse for saying I couldn’t find any bias. He did a good report but he knew he was giving the liberals and MSM their talking point.

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    • cboldt says:

      He didn’t say he found no bias.
      That said,m I find what he did say to be a gratuitous and unnecessary line. He said nobody admitted bias, there is no written or oral admission that bias was a factor in decision making. “no documentary of testimonial evidence.”
      Of course, removing that qualifier totally changes the meaning of the assertion, so that is what the press does, totally misrepresnt what the report says. sot of like Trump asked Zelensky for a favor, look into Biden. But the call record doesn’t show that at all.
      It’s a waste of time to try to correct everybody who makes the mistake – a fools errand. I just watch people make fasle statements and live with it. People are easily fooled.

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      • mimbler says:

        And I think that is why he said what he said – he was offering the MSM and dems a line that was literally true, but that he knew they would “paraphrase” into something totally untrue. And of course, they immediately did.

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    • aisheschayal says:

      Why did Mueller have to say he couldn’t rule out obstruction. It’s a narrative control game they opposition plays, probably coached by lawfare or the media mouths.

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    • neal s says:

      Well obviously if you ignore everything that suggests bias …

      It is like saying you don’t see something while you are wearing a blindfold.
      It is like saying you can’t hear something when you are wearing headphones blasting something loud and distracting.
      It is like saying you can’t feel something when you are wearing boxing gloves.
      It is like saying you can’t taste something when your mouth is sewed shut.
      It is like saying you can’t smell something when you are in a space suit with the helmet closed.

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    • wightmanfarm says:

      He couldn’t seem to get the bias beam out of his own eye to see the political bias in his precious FBI/CIA.

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  4. lawrencepaul1 says:

    There’s ignorant, then there’s democrat ignorant.

    Majority of Democrats believe Obama was better president than Washington: Poll
    https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/12/10/majority-of-democrats-believe-obama-was-better-president-than-washington-poll/#more-208820

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  5. lawrencepaul1 says:

    Elizabeth Warren Declares She Is Last Person Of Color Remaining In Democratic Race
    https://babylonbee.com/news/elizabeth-warren-most-diverse-candidate-remaining

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  6. Pegon Zellschmidt says:

    If the Barr/Durham investigation is still going on, how do they reconcile both of them stating publicly and emphatically that the IG conclusions are wrong? Can’t it be argued that it taints whatever jury(ies) may be called?

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    • lotbusyexec says:

      Isn’t it a military tribunal for traders activity? Asking for friend

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    • Debra says:

      They did not state that the IG conclusions are wrong.

      They are correcting the talking heads who are stating ‘what’ the IG conclusions are.

      The IG stated that he could not conclude whether there was political bias or not, based on the evidence that he investigated, while the talking heads are claiming that he definitively stated there was no political bias.

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    • LDave says:

      Easy. The IG merely said he found “no evidence” of bias. Doesn’t mean Barr or Dedham don’t have evidence, if bias even matters. I think intent is enough.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      One day when I get called to jury duty I am going to say I have no faith in any federal agency and voted fro Trump. That should bounce me out of most jury pools.

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      • Carrie says:

        I’m actually dreaming of getting called into a case- I would hide all of my beliefs just to get on that jury pool 🙂

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      • WES says:

        Robert:. A few days ago I read an interesting comment from ex-FBI Jeff Cortese. He noted that they have been losing court cases due to lone wolf juriers refusing to convict defendants due to the FBI doing the investigations. So yeah you are not the only one!

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        • Robert Smith says:

          I will never listen to what the FBI says until they improve their selective memory. Their memory is perfect – unless they have to revise their 302 “recollections”. The FBI agent and institution memory is Alzheimer-like when asked about possible mistakes of malfeasance. This is all besides feigned ineptitude.

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    • Zy says:

      They said they had disagreements not that the IG is completely wrong. Barr is aware that there needs to be some public indication that things are being done. The atmosphere and mood in the country is toxic and explosive. Barr knows that.

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    • Debra says:

      Hmmm. And Lisa Page just filed suit against the FBI. Will she claim ‘James Comey is a dirty cop’ as a reason for her claim of having her ‘private’ communications revealed?

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        Hahaha! She’s upset about the text messages going public!

        Sweetheart, if you don’t want them to be public then DON’T USE YOUR FBI PHONE FOR YOUR PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS, DUMMY.

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        • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

          And now I’m reminded of this gem revealed recently in a 2018 letter from the Office of Professional Responsibility to Peter Strzok when they decided to suspend him for being naughty. GA is Lisa Page.

          During a text exchange from April 4-8, 2017, you and GA discussed that your wife had access to your devices and had located GA’s husband’s full name, found a hotel reservation ostensibly used by you and GA during a romantic encounter, had access to photographs from your phone, threatened to send all the information to GA’s husband, and also threatened to hire a private investigator. GA told you to determine whether your wife might use recovery software to locate other evidence of your affair on your devices. https://www.scribd.com/document/435752237/Strzok-v-Barr-DOJ-DE-30-5#fullscreen

          Btw, that letter has what is arguably the best collection of anti-Trump Strzok/Page texts. When you see them all together you can SMELL the hate. 🙂

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        • I thought it was Peter Strzok (sp?)’s wife who outed the text messages after she found them on his phone…she oughta sue Lisa for alienation of affecftions lol

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          • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

            GMTA, I posted that very thing right above your comment. I laughed out loud when I read that footnote. Fun at the Strzok and Page households. I wish someone would leak the photographs, I’m sure they’re a hoot. 🙂

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            • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

              Oh, Melissa Hodgman didn’t out the text messages, she only found out Pete and Lis were having an affair. It was Horowitz who outed the text messages and caused Pete and Lis to be fired, that’s why I can’t hate him too much.

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              • Judith says:

                If Horowitz released texts from Page and Stryzok, while hinting of an affair, then it is far more likely that there was never an affair.

                Instead, there was a concerted effort to withhold *certain* damning communications under the *guise* of an affair.

                Now THAT I can believe!

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                • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

                  The affair texts were redacted but the OPR letter to Strzok mentions some of them, see my post above. Strzok’s wife found out about them and she was livid.

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        • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

          Boohoo Lisa. The vicims of the coup schemes had to do the same thing. Except for (e), get a comfort squirrel or something. Or just call your luvvah.

          From her crybaby lawsuit: “DOJ’s unlawful disclosure of its records of Ms. Page’s text messages has caused Ms. Page significant harm and financial loss in the form of: (a) permanent loss of earning capacity due to reputational damage; (b) attorneys’ fees relating to investigations and congressional testimony as well as efforts to prevent the release of personal text messages; (c) the cost of childcare during and transportation to multiple investigative interviews and appearances before Congress; (d) the cost of paying a data-privacy service to protect her personal information; and (e) the cost of therapy to cope with unwanted national media exposure and harassment caused by the December 12 disclosure.”

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      • Jimmy Jack says:

        The audacity of this is so amazing it tells me there is a bigger strategy at play here I don’t understand yet.

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        • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

          Well, she has hooked up with Benjamin Wittes of Lawfare so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s helping her out, maybe she’s his new side piece. He wrote a pukey gushing tweet about her. Her husband needs to put her on a leash.

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        • Judith says:

          They want to pretend there was an affair so they can withhold “private” texts. Those “private” texts likely contain unimaginable horrors like assassination talk. So they put on a show, to sell us on the idea we can’t review *all* their texts. I don’t believe them. Those phones are government property and we the people are entitled to see *everything.*

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          • boogywstew says:

            Aren’t you speaking of a husband and wife can’t be compelled to testify against each other. Strozak has a wife and Page has a husband already. Maybe Brennan could pretend to be the gay lover of Comey ad infinitum.

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            • Judith says:

              Not exactly. It’s more like Hellary’s 30,000 “nothing to see here” emails about ‘yoga’ and ‘wedding plans.’ It’s a bs excuse to pretend Page/Strzok texts should somehow be private when they are anything but.

              Page even filed a lawsuit recently, to protect her privacy. Can you imagine? Nothing on a gov issued cellphone is private, even fake sexting.

              So let’s see *all* of their texts -no holds barred- so we can determine what actually transpired between two TREASONOUS CO-CONSPIRATORS. I don’t care if they were kissing cousins or swapping recipes, these messages happen to be government property.

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      • Mariainohio says:

        Hmmm…I wonder how her leaking information to “Devlin” (Barrett) at the Washington Post will play? Looks like Lisa is a hypocrite…

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      • Robert Smith says:

        It is always worthwhile to file suit against governmental units. They don’t like trials.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      Nolte is a great journalist. Fearless.

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  7. UncleGrumpy says:

    We are all living under a general warrant. All of our communications are intercepted, recorded, and indexed for use against us. The government promises not to look at these communications without the permission of a secret court. Until the constitution is restored, and this abomination is removed, we all live in great peril.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      Rand Paul warned about this when the Patriot Act was first brought up. He was prophetic.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      i think it would be very unlikely you could find out anything about how the government surveilled you. As it is, Trump is having a mighty battle against the IC DeepState and he’s the most powerful single person in the world.

      So they will look at all your information and use the information to beat or control you outside of court.

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  8. My prediction is there will be no trial in the Senate. The Senate will refuse to take up the House’s articles of impeachment. There are too many Senators from both parties that DO NOT WANT anyone testifying under oath where the testimony may jeopardize their illicit gravy trains or make them complicit in crimes (i.e. Warner, Feinstein and Burr). In turn, the House will continue unabated in harassing PDJT in their oversight committees to tarnish him before the election. That’s my prediction and I’m sticking too it! MAGA.

    Durham may be the savior of the country.

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  9. sunnydaze says:

    Yes! Scott’s gonna recruit volunteers at the Hershey Rally today. Brilliant!

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  10. HellInAHandbasket says:

    Every single warrant request is an affidavit
    Every single requester is an affiant.
    Every single affiant applies his signature to swear the evidence is true
    Every single affirming signature attached to untruths is perjury.

    … if nothing else, every signature is a charge of perjury.
    For every single one of them, up-and-down the chain of command, each time they signed.

    * An affidavit is a written statement of facts that the “affiant” (person making the statement) swears to be true. An affidavit typically requires a signature and includes language acknowledging that the affiant is open to prosecution for perjury if any assertions aren’t true. The affiant must swear/sign the statement in front of an authorized person – like the FISC Judge.

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  11. Reserved55 says:

    Sleazy PsychoJoe

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  12. Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

    You get an investigation! And you get an investigation!

    Apr 4 2016: counterintelligence investigation of Carter Page (page 33)

    Jul 31 2016: counterintelligence investigation, supposedly of no particular target(s) but come on, we know it was of Trump (this is Crossfire Hurricane)

    Aug 10 2016: counterintelligence FARA investigations of Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, and Paul Manafort (page 92)

    Aug 16 2016: counterintelligence FARA investigation of Michael Flynn (page 92)

    And then the FISA warrant against Carter Page.

    Am I missing any? It seems any time they were curious to do more spying on Trump they just opened a new investigation on someone. And some went on FOR YEARS. Crossfire Hurricane was started on Jul 31 2016, it never ended, it just rolled into the Mueller witch hunt which started on May 17 2017 and ended on Mar 19 2019. Jul 31 2016 to Mar 19 2019. Un-frigging-believable.

    Attorney General Barr, is this the FBI you want? Fire Wray and put someone competent in his place. And sign Horowitz up for a spine implant surgery.

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  13. Guyski says:

    Dem whip not pushing members to support ‘divisive’ impeachment, expects to lose some support 🤔

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-clyburn-dems-impeachment-vote-support

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  14. k4jjj says:

    Is anyone going to get an ass whipping for tearing this country apart?

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  15. Gary says:

    Headlines tomorrow will be all about the shootings in N.J.

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  16. cheekymeeky says:

    Full WSJ interview.

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  17. Linda K. says:

    https://dcwhispers.com/must-watch-oan-investigative-report-ukraine-biden-and-far-left-media-malpractice/

    I thought I posted this earlier, but I don’t see it.and it is worth watching. It is OAN on their trip to Ukraine.

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  18. JustSomeInputFromAz says:

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  19. Reserved55 says:

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  20. WeThePeople2016 says:

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      I can’t even watch our own pundits now. I’ll watch Trump, our ally Senators and Representatives, AG Barr, and a few others.

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  21. Lucille says:

    Lara Trump and Real News Insights with Kingface

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    • sunnydaze says:

      Great interview. The “Orange is the New Black” t-shirt is a brilliant way to trigger Democrats to new levels of apoplectic. hahahahaha

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  22. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Finally . . . . . . . yesterday . . . . . . .
    someone stood up in the face of tyranny and spoke his mind.

    The crooked Fake News did their usual job and ignored him.

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  23. gsonFIT says:

    Can anyone guess who said this?

    “The FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it,” the FBI said in a statement. “As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

    It was back in January 2018

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  24. Elle says:

    So what I am seeing today is the white flag of surrender. Gaetz took Goldman to the mat yesterday when he went on about how the Dems haven’t done squat in terms of governing. So today the talk is about passing USMC. Yeah. So that arrow went straight to the mark. It even seemed to me that the Dems were ready… pre-prepared if you will.. with a rebuttal to what Gaetz said about their lack of getting things done.

    So I have some thoughts. First, if I was Gaetz, I’d be taking some measures to find out how they were so effectively prepared with a specific comeback. These guys are not that quick on their feet. Second, The Dems have lost their coup bid. It is over. They failed. Let the arrests and indictments begin.

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  25. Lucille says:

    Real News Insights with Brad Parscale

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  26. dobbsfan says:

    I am very much looking forward to Sundance’s review of the USMC and it’s impact on President Trump’s trade agreement scenarios with China. Gonna be a doozy!

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  27. dwpender says:

    Barr and Durham made very promising comments yesterday.

    Unfortunately, Barr today let substantially all the air out of the balloon. First, he says the Durham investigation won’t come to a head until “late Spring/early Summer” (June or July!). Does anyone believe there will be any REAL indictments of prominent figures at the height on the campaign season?

    Then Barr topped it all off by decrying the tendency of “both sides” to want to “criminalize everything.”

    President Trump now needs to declassify and publicly release EVERYTHING Sundance, Nunes, Ratcliffe, Jordan, Meadows, Gaetz, etc have been asking for over the last 21(!) months or so.

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    • Zy says:

      Why not indictments in that time frame? The indicted are self-proclaimed
      non-partisans who have no bias. How can evidence backed indictments be seen as harming the D candidate(s).

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      Late Spring, early Summer, eh? I hope that’s a head fake. Otherwise, wake me up when we get close.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Sure, why not?

      There will never be a “good” time. So do when Durham is ready to go.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      Again, the investigation is not going to go by your timeline. Barr and Durham are doing all of the work. When they are ready to wrap they will. You need to be patient and you need to stop thinking that you know best.

      The 2020 election is 11 months from now. We’re not in a hurry.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        Trump wins 2020, he is unleashed.

        Trump somehow loses or is cheated out of 2020 victory, Trump is unleashed.

        Either way, I don’t think Trump just forgets about it. He tried that route already multiple times.

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  28. sunnyflower5 says:

    Lisa Page and her lover had their phones erased— and now she’s sues those who covered up for her. By all means—Let’s find out who deleted her messages and why.

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    • willthesuevi says:

      I have a parable for Mrs. Page.

      There was a little bird who was having too much fun flying and singing and eating to prepare for the flight south. One day the little bird realizes there are no other birds around. Little bird panics as a winter storm sets in and frantically fly’s from empty nest to empty nest looking for help.

      Overcome by exhaustion and hunger, little bird falls freezing into a cow pasture.

      A short while later little bird sees a cow coming over and thinks the day is going from bad to worse. Ms. Cow walks over, sees little birds predicament, turns around and drops a huge steaming cow patty right on little bird. Little bird initially thinks this is so terrible and starts to cry. But, as Ms. Cow walks away, little bird realizes that, wow, I am warm. I am so warm I am toasty.

      This is awesome and little bird starts to sing and dance and cry out how wonderful everything turn out

      Soon though little bird sees a coyote, who heard all the noise, walking over. Little bird starts telling Mr. Coyote how great things are going. Mr. Coyote leans over, plucks little bird out of the cow patty, flips little bird in the air and eats little bird with one gulp.

      Moral of the story – Not everyone who craps on you is your enemy. Not everyone who pulls you out of the crap is your friend. And when you are warm, not in jail, and happy, keep your mouth shut.

      Thus endeth the lesson.

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  30. theresanne says:

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  31. Effem says:

    Any theories as to why Mitch is holding up USMC until after a Senate trial?

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  32. Brenrod says:

    I believe that the democratic nomination is going to be Hillary Clinton. I think they kept her out of the limelight so that she wouldn’t be dirtied up like the last time by attacks. She will come into the nomination having been spared the Sunlight and criticism of the nomination campaign. She will be brought in as a “fresh face”. The Dems know how ignorant the voters are and how short their memory.

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  33. citizen817 says:

    William Barr full interview with Pete Williams

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    • Harry says:

      great interview.

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    • hillariousclinton says:

      The best 25 minutes of TV I’ve seen on this whole thing. Very interesting to pay close attention to Barr’s tone and mannerisms when he gets into the meat of it. I’m beginning to think we might just see some heads role next year. A nice gift for 2020 re-election of Donaldus Maximus!!

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  34. fanbeav says:

    Of course they didn’t have a comment….traitors

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    • I would not expect Judges to want to make a public comment. I think they’re secretly hoping that the entire FISC fiasco, and the enabling FISA legislation, will soon be repealed and replaced. Two of them have gone on record as saying that they knew that they were being lied to. This law might have sounded pretty good in the late 1970’s, but it hasn’t withstood the test of time. And it never could.

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  35. sunnyflower5 says:

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  36. Troublemaker10 says:

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  37. Troublemaker10 says:

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  38. sunnyflower5 says:

    What a little weasel.

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  39. sunnydaze says:

    Rally started.

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    • linda4298 says:

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    • sunnydaze says:

      Anyone know who this guy is who’s talking right now (its speaker after Nat. Anthem)?

      He’s great!

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  40. Daniel says:

    Ever notice the news reports more on shootings at some times more than others? We’ve had a LOT of shootings recently and another one today.

    Some shootings are very, very common. They don’t talk about those. There was a school shooting not far from where I live and it never made the national news at all! Strange that. And how are we supposed to believe the media isn’t biased and doesn’t have an agenda when they display their bias at every passing moment?

    I’m not going to go as far as to say these shootings are staged or faked, but I think it’s unquestionable that the media is absolutely biased in their reporting of some while ignoring others.

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  41. 335blues says:

    Tomorrow, Dec. 11, 2019 is a great day for America.
    On Wednesday, two of the remaining three “judges” on the world trade organization (WTO)
    appellate body are retiring, leaving only one active “judge”.
    Since 3 are required to “issue rulings” to world governments, the WTO appellate body is effectively
    DEAD. We can all thank President Donald Trump for another WIN as he has steadfastly refused to approve any new appointments to this sham organization created at the end of WW2.
    This should effectively kill communist china’s “most favored nation” status, and the economic benefits they have unjustly enjoyed for decades.
    As I have stated before, the countries of the world should immediately band together to refuse all trade and business with communist china so as to destroy their economy, and drive the CCP from power. The sooner this happens the better and safer the world will be.

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  42. lawton says:

    AG Barr said no Durham indictments before April or May or suggested that at least when asked.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      That’s not too much to ask. Meanwhile, more and more and more information will keep coming out which will make them look sad if they try to soft-pedal it.

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    • treehouseron says:

      president Trump is going to drive us all crazy, but he’s stretching this out all the way until the election. It’s a crazy strategy because it risks losing the base, but I suppose he figures we have nowhere else to go and he’s absolutely right.

      We’re all going to stress the hell out for the next 11 months though.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        I think the base walking away is crazy. Even if you are pissed off you would be discounting ALL the good he’s done for a herculean effort that you want done on your time table.

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  43. sunnydaze says:

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