November 23rd – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1038

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868 Responses to November 23rd – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1038

  1. Bogeyfree says:

    Why? Why does Tom Fitton always have to sue to get FOIA documents.

    In this case it is the DOJ he is suing and last time I looked that was run by AG Barr.

    Has anyone notice not only are the white hats having to fight the DS but they continue to have to go to court to get any cooperation when it comes to FOIA documents from the FIB (Run by Wray) DOJ (Run by Barr) and now The State Dept (Run by Pompeo)

    Why is it so hard to get support from the people who work for PT?

    I guess the DS IS EVERYWHERE!

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  2. lawrencepaul1 says:

    “I guess the DS IS EVERYWHERE!”
    I’m afraid you are right. They only employ and promote their own. At least now millions are aware of that fact. Without a president Trump they would have continued to fool the whole country instead of only half of it.

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    • lolli says:


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    • freespeechfanatic says:

      It makes one wonder how the republican party will survive post-Trump. The idea of returning to a Deep State status quo ante with people like Haley would, it seems to me, be completely demoralizing and voter-suppressing.

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      • lawrencepaul1 says:

        Seems to me also. But then the other team is toxic as well. Both parties are just so damn awful.
        A third party could really take advantage of that situation if there were to be one formed.

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        • LDave says:

          Third party is impossible. Better to primary RINOs and nominate good candidates for president.

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        • WSB says:

          It happens here. However, it is constructed to split votes of the opposite party. It is a weapon.

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        • WSB says:

          lp, read about the GEMS program software in George Soros backed voting machines.

          They can be preloaded with broken down vote percentages to make sure the desired outcome is what the client wants. For any precinct from any place in the world. If you can gain access to a voting database, you can change the preclusion.

          The inevitable thing is that votes are reduced to percentages, since that is the only real way to make an outcome work with math. So, unlike one vote equallimg 1, If you want 52% of the voters to ‘vote’ for the candidate of your choice, votes are broken down into fractions and that is what is loaded into the machine. No poll monitor would ever know. In other words, if audited, the crime is self-evident within but not from without. Look for it. It is called Magic Fractions. They hide in plain sight.

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          • lawrencepaul1 says:

            We are in whole lot of trouble as a nation WSB.

            Liked by 1 person

            • WSB says:

              I know. It took me since the Clinton administration to understand that. I should have been a lot more aware. Earlier…

              One thing I know.
              President Trump was calling out the warning since Reagan, and I did hear what he was saying. Just never knew how bad it really was.

              No wonder why Donald Trump ran. He knew he had to do something about the entire world.

              We are all in a deep hole.

              However, just look at what PT has done since he came down the escalator. He has exposed criminal cartels we now take for granted as open topics.

              Keep the faith he will continue to do the Lord’s work! He is nailing it!

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              • lawrencepaul1 says:

                In my opinion his greatest achievement has been to reveal the enemy. I don’t think that any objective American will ever believe the Federal government or it’s agencies again.


        • WSB says:

          I will look for the video, however, I remember this because the original man who figured out what was happening saw a readout that had the fractions still exposed.

          From what I have seen, one can run the report WITH fractions or without. And someone screwed up. This man who saw it is in IT and could not figure out how one vote per person could be turned into fractions. So, he started doing some research.


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    • WhiteBoard says:

      my guess to clean this all up would be the following:

      give all deep states a humiliating presentation of what they did – remove their retirements, fire them – and give them an out of no further prosecution (they must publically ask Trump for a pardon).

      then arrrest Brennen, as the number 1 player in this deception – send him away for ever. and allow the institutions to save face. All countries that colluded make a public statement apologizing for this, and stating their new partnership through buying our items and trade deals.

      to soft? oh and yes, soros must be handed over to Hungary.

      Stop the NGO use of aid. and continue PDJT’s strategy of the economic warfare.

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  3. lawrencepaul1 says:

    Liberal ‘Dark Money’ Operation Behind Ads Urging Republicans To Support Impeachment


  4. Lucille says:

    The ever-optimistic Dr. Steve Turley’s take on who’s behind it all…

    GEORGE SOROS is Behind the ‘Whistleblower’ and FAILED Impeachment Hearings!!!
    Published on Nov 23, 2019

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  5. Troublemaker10 says:

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  6. Right to reply says:

    Watch from 59 minutes. Nuland on Flynn…She hated him!

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  7. sunnyflower5 says:

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  8. CNN_sucks says:

    If true that RBG checkin at a hospital and passed away before Thanksgiving. Another demon rats armageddon…fun time.

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  9. Just found this on the NY Post website: “Top officials in the US Navy threatened to resign or be fired should President Trump follow through with an order to keep disgraced Navy SEAL Edward Gallagher in the service, The New York Times reported.”

    If true, I would not give them the opportunity to resign. FIRE THEIR ASSES NOW.

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  10. Right to reply says:

    SIOUX FALLS, S.D. – A South Dakota man who was linked to an admitted Russian covert agent agreed to plead guilty in a fraud scheme that authorities said bilked at least $2.3 million from 78 people, according to a court filing Monday.

    Businessman and conservative political operative Paul Erickson agreed to plead guilty to one count of wire fraud and one count of money laundering. Each charge carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

    An affidavit accused Erickson of promising returns of up to 150% while spending the money on personal expenses for Maria Butina, his former girlfriend. Butina was deported this year after admitting she sought to infiltrate conservative U.S. political groups and promote Russia’s agenda.

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  11. Zippy says:

    Key text highlighted with ***********.

    Barr Ends All Conspiracy Theories Forever By Saying Epstein Died Via A Series Of Coincidences
    Nov 22, 2019

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    In an interview with Associated Press, US Attorney General William Barr put all conspiracy theories to rest once and for all by assuring the world that alleged sex trafficker and alleged billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s death was simply the result of a very, very, very long series of unfortunate coincidences.

    “I can understand people who immediately, whose minds went to sort of the worst-case scenario because it was a perfect storm of screw-ups,” Barr told AP on Thursday.

    This perfect storm of unlucky oopsies include Epstein being taken off suicide watch not long after a previous suicide attempt and shortly before his successful suicide, suggestions that the first attempt may have actually been an assault via attempted strangulation inflicted by someone else, two security guards simultaneously falling asleep on the job when they were supposed to be checking on Epstein, one of those guards not even being an actual security guard, security footage of two cameras outside Epstein’s cell being unusable due to a mysterious technical glitch, at least eight Bureau of Prisons officials knowing Epstein wasn’t meant to be left alone in his cell and leaving him alone in his cell anyway, Epstein’s cellmate being transferred out of their shared space the day before Epstein’s death, Epstein signing a will two days before his death, unexplained injuries on Epstein’s wrists and shoulder reported by his family after the autopsy, and a forensic expert who examined Epstein’s body claiming that his injuries were more consistent with homicide than suicide.

    “The attorney general also sought to dampen conspiracy theories by people who have questioned whether Epstein really took his own life, saying the evidence proves Epstein killed himself,” AP reports.

    ***********“He added that he personally reviewed security footage that confirmed that no one entered the area where Epstein was housed on the night he died.”***********

    Well if reporting that he’s reviewed footage which we were previously told didn’t exist isn’t enough to dampen those kooky conspiracy theories, I don’t know what is.

    So there you have it. The US government says that an intelligence asset with damning information on many powerful individuals did in fact kill himself due to an admittedly bizarre and wildly unlikely series of strange coincidences. I for one have no more questions. Checkmate, conspiracy theorists.

    “Mr. Epstein’s death in August at a federal detention center in Manhattan set off a rash of unfounded conspiracy theories on social media that were picked up and repeated by high-profile figures, including Mayor Bill de Blasio and former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani. No matter their ideology, the refrain of the theories was the same: Something did not add up,” says The New York Times in its report Barr’s statements.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s a completely unfounded conspiracy theory to believe that someone with ties to powerful institutions and individuals might be murdered in a way that was made to look like a suicide. We don’t live in a world where opaque organizations do evil things in secret, we live in a world where the government is always our friend and the TV would never lie to us. I’m glad these comments made by Barr (whose father in another strange coincidence gave Epstein his first job) have at long last struck a fatal blow to anyone who would doubt the beneficent hand of our beloved institutions.

    It’s hard to imagine what more the US government and its allied political/media class could possibly do to quell conspiracy theories that now have Hollywood celebrities clamoring for government internet censorship. I guess if they really, really wanted to dampen conspiracy theories, there are a few more extremely drastic steps that could be taken. Steps like not lying all the time. And maybe not hiding immense amounts of information about what the most powerful institutions in the world are doing behind thick walls of government opacity. And maybe cease promoting conspiracies themselves, as with Russiagate. And maybe stop secretly doing depraved things. And maybe stop engaging in conspiracies.

    Pretty sure Barr’s assurances will be enough to do the trick, though.


    El Paso County jail inmates have been letting themselves out of cells, sheriff says
    Oct 25, 2019

    El Paso County jail inmates know how to unlock doors inside the facility, and they regularly free themselves from cells, according to the sheriff.

    “Inmates are able to defeat door locks on a routine basis,” Sheriff Bill Elder told county commissioners at a recent meeting. “So we’re looking at processes on how to shore that up.”

    Those who have left their confines have assaulted deputies on “several” occasions, a few of which resulted in injuries, sheriff’s spokeswoman Jacqueline Kirby said Friday in an email to The Gazette.

    But the problem isn’t new. Inmates were using a similar trick under the watch of former Sheriff Terry Maketa.

    In 2008, Maketa shared with county commissioners a video of inmates using a plastic comb to prevent a door lock from securing.

    ***********The problem had come to light after an inmate was beaten in his cell while others in the facility were supposed to be on lockdown.************

    More than a decade ago, the county spent roughly $100,000 replacing locks and some doors and door jambs on many of the jail’s cells.


    • Zippy says:

      Of course, you couldn’t expect the head of the DO’J’ to know of such things or even to be smart enough to ask about this or research it on his own… like I just did in a few minutes, right?

      No one needed to “enter the area.” They were already there, unseen by the two broken cameras that covered Epstein’s cell.

      Correctional News
      How Secure Are Those Cell Doors?
      May 24, 2012


      Detention cell doors are among the simplest and most reliable security feature of jails and prisons. The basic design of a swinging cell door lock has changed very little in the past century. Their familiarity and consistent operation have made them a part of the prison landscape that operators rarely think about.

      But, that may be a big mistake.

      Security locks are definitely not part of the landscape that inmates ignore. They often understand the operation and vulnerabilities of locks better than the officers that supervise them. Compromised locks are in almost every detention facility.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      Only 1% of those who hang themselves break the bones in their throat like Epstein’s were.

      The statistics IMO just don’t add up to Barr’s conclusion.

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    • Lt Col Covfefe999 says:

      Epstein was taken off of suicide watch TWELVE DAYS before he committed suicide. That was plenty of time for him to pretend like he was better and convince the prison that he was no longer a suicide risk.

      Inmate suicides happen despite efforts to prevent them. If someone wants badly to commit suicide, they’ll probably succeed.

      wikipedia: Pretrial detainees tend to have higher rates of suicide than other inmates, with about a third of all prison suicides occurring within the first week of custody.

      Epstein was 66, probably propped up by viagra, testosterone, and God knows what else. In prison he would not have access to that stuff. And he wouldn’t have access to girls either. He knew he wasn’t going to have the easy sentence or partial jailing like he’d had in Florida. It’s easy to understand why the guy offed himself, and the world is better because he did it.

      Keep in mind too that he had already been through one arrest-plea-conviction-incarceration and he didn’t rat out any of his pedo clients. Nobody would have expected him to do it this time either.


      • Deb says:

        Epstein didn’t rat anyone out last time because the Clintonistas in the DOJ got him a sweetheart deal.

        The current POTUS would have expected him to sing like a bird to avoid jail time.

        Jeffrey either wanted to sing and was killed, or he chose suicide over a long prison sentence.

        Either way, his death prevented his victims from getting their day in court. He deprived them of real justice. That is a shame.

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    • mimbler says:

      And notice how AP says Starr’s opinion on this is the final word. Since when are they considering him the final authority?

      Liked by 1 person

    • Judith says:

      Barr got one thing right. The story DOES sounds like crap. Because crap is exactly what it IS. #FAKENEWS

      Liked by 1 person

  12. Lucille says:

    Energy Secretary Rick Perry responds to Sondland’s testimony
    Fox News – Published on Nov 23, 2019

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  13. CTH Fan says:

    Watching a series called “The Crown” on Netflix. Anyone who has Netflix should watch it and go to episode 5 “Coup”. It was absolutely like the nightmare we are living in over here with regard to efforts to replace the duly elected government here.

    The year in question was 1967. The only difference being that they had no social media so the country was oblivious to the plans.

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    • listingstarboard says:

      Will do. I recommend watching Oliver Stones documentaries on Ukraine. The Maidan revolution in 2014 is absolutely a preview of what happens here with Antifa as last resort to remove Donald Trump IMO. Brought to you by Clowns in America.

      Liked by 1 person

  14. Troublemaker10 says:

    I’m with Gutfeld on this one.


  15. linda4298 says:


  16. Jimmy says:

    There is a trend popping up and the trend is about surfacing infighting within trump coalition. It is time to think about these news stories and involved parties should also consider the implications:
    1) Situation with Rudy. There is a discussion what will Rudy do if Trump starts talking unfavorably about him if he becomes a burden.
    2) Situation with Flynn. The interview with powell did not sound very clear to me and might implicate VP knowlingly or unknowingly disclosing info about flynn conversation. This has again the potential to create friction within.
    3) Situation with NSA/ODNI/IG-intelligince. Who is to trust in the key intelligence positions? if none, can alternatives be found or they could do more hard from within these positions.
    4) Situation with Nunes in Ukraine. Needs clarification or it could again weaken GOP case.
    5) Less important one but worth mentioning. kellyane and her husband situation is not looking good. Its reported that trump talked about it and also not good in my opinion.
    6) The story about pardon and defense dept. Needs to be sorted out.
    7) IG horowitch report if do nothing, then it is epic fail.

    Finally republicans have failed to distinguish the issue about political opponent and corruption involving anyone (including political opponent). Also, crowdsrtrike issue needs to be supported with more direct evidence.
    Wish list?? or a must list?

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  17. islandpalmtrees says:




  18. Troublemaker10 says:

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  19. sunnydaze says:

    haha. Looks like they finally “get it”. They’re not calling people “bots” anymore.

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  20. Troublemaker10 says:


  21. Reserved55 says:

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  22. Reserved55 says:


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  23. So who WAS he working for?
    More whitewash indicators within this story.

    Report: DOJ Watchdog Addresses At Least One Of The Conspiracy Theories About Joseph Mifsud In Upcoming Report

    The Justice Department inspector general concluded that Joseph Mifsud was not working for the FBI when he made contact with former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos in 2016.
    It is unclear whether the report addresses the other conspiracy theory about Mifsud: that he was a Russian agent.
    Mifsud told Papadopoulos during a meeting in London on April 26, 2016 that he had learned that the Russian government had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in the form of “thousands” of her emails.
    The special counsel’s team ultimately found no evidence that Papadopoulos or anyone else on the Trump team conspired with Russia to obtain Clinton’s emails


    • Johnny Dollar says:

      “The Justice Department inspector general concluded that Joseph Mifsud was not working for the FBI when he made contact with former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos in 2016.”

      Joseph Mifsud and Stefen Halber work hand in glove to frame their respective targets.

      Mifsud nailed Papadop for Mueller. Halper nailed Page for FISA support.

      Know this: neither Mifsud nor Halper would lift a finger without getting paid.

      Paid by the country who wanted their work product. In this case, the USA wanted something done and the USA was going to pay

      Stephen Halper was paid out of the US Treasury for his work product. Mifsud was paid out of the US treasury to produce his stuff.

      You can spin your wheels for a long time trying to trace what US government Agency actually forked over the cash to (and therefore “worked for”) these two. But before you go down that road, understand that, as clandestine operators, they require anonymity. Which means they cannot be identified in anyone’s budget.


    • Zorro says:

      Since The IG can only report on the activities of DOJ and former employees then, if Mifsud is mentioned in the report, he was/is an employee of the US government. I don’t think Mifsud is mentioned in the report unless he was used as a reason to issue a FISA.


      • mr.piddles says:

        “if Mifsud is mentioned in the report, he was/is an employee of the US government”

        Another explanation would be that if Congress — Nunes, Grassley, whoever — specifically mentioned Mifsud in their requests for OIG investigations, then OIG would simply be responding to those direct requests.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “The Justice Department inspector general concluded that Joseph Mifsud was not working for the FBI”

      I don’t understand how this is ultimately relevant. If Mifsud was “Western Intelligence”, then he was at least indirectly working for the CIA… and more likely one of the other services who were in cahoots with the CIA… and it sounds likely the Italians who seem to be up to their eyeballs in #Russiagate.

      This was a Brennan operation, and he and his co-conspirators, who found more than willing support overseas. This was a global operation. London, Rome, Kyiv, D.C. Folks like Mifsud don’t get paystubs in the mail, FFS. And folks like Halper may be “on the books”… but it depends on which “books” you’re looking at. Durham poking around ONA isn’t to express Pre-Holiday pleasantries, I’m sure. He doesn’t seem like the “Pre-Holdays” type.

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  24. sunnyflower5 says:


  25. sunnyflower5 says:

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  26. Reserved55 says:

    IL 06 Dim Congressman Casten NOT using his official gov. Twitter.
    Thread on evil Trump.


    • linda4298 says:

      He is a freshman from IL 06, elected in 2018, Sean Casten represents Illinois’ 6th Congressional District, located in Chicago’s western suburbs. He is serving as a freshman in the 116th Congress, and is the first Democrat to represent the 6th District in nearly 50 year


    • GB Bari says:

      I don’t use twitter but someone might tweet back to Casten that the GOP actually DOES represent a fundamental threat to DemonRATs’ plans to destroy the American Constitution and invoke communism under the banner of “socialism”.


      • Judith says:

        And I don’t use wordpress but I ^^LIKE^^ your comment. People still can’t grasp that our Constitutional Republic is under ATTACK by a shadow government AND a complicit Enemedia, and Donald Trump is trying to SAVE us from THEM. This speaks to the crux of THEIR resistance of all things Trump.


  27. I Hear You Now says:

    retweeted by MAGA attorney Robert Barnes

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  28. Reserved55 says:

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    • GB Bari says:

      Fox Weekend anchors were the first to go hard leftwing and full-bore anti Trump there years ago. I have warned people multiple times here in CTH and on other alternative news sites’ comments threads. Stop watching and save your blood pressure. Switch to OANN or no tv news at all. it’s probably worth a 10 to 30 point reduction in your systolic.

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  29. Reserved55 says:

    White supremacist.


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    • mr.piddles says:

      Yikes. If anybody knows RICO, it’s Rudy G. They don’t call him “RICO Wreckin’ Rudy” for nuthin’. Ok, they don’t call him that. But they should.

      The push definitely seems to e one to shut Rudy up. His poking around directly points to not just Ukraine corruption involving Very Important People (Americans I’m particular)… but the uncovering of the Ukraine-centric #Russiagate conspiracy.

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  32. Troublemaker10 says:

    Rush Limbaugh: Trump’s Attitude on Ukraine Makes Perfect Sense in Context

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  33. Katherine McCoun says:

    I am going back through articles/posts here looking for the explanation that the letters from this committee weren’t actually subpoenas. Anyone know the links/article name or have links to help me? Trying to explain it to someone else and I am not doing a quality job! Thanks in advance!


  34. todayistheday99 says:

    Alphabet news reporting RBG has been hospitalized for a cold.


  35. Reserved55 says:

    Frank explains Trump.
    Start at 2:45


  36. hawkins6 says:

    John Solomon refutes Vindman’s testimony with documents that JS’s corruption allegations were all false.

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  37. Patriot1783 says:

    LOL, protestor picked the wrong SUV to block 😂😂🤣


  38. Perot Conservative says:

    Sydney Powell Update on Gen Michael Flynn, etc.

    Expecting a ruling from Judge Sullivan “any day”. General Swamp items.


  39. Troublemaker10 says:

    Trump gets cheers going out to eat with Melania and Barron.

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