Tuesday October 8th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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118 Responses to Tuesday October 8th – Open Thread

  1. Garrison Hall says:

    From the comments made about this piece . . .

    This song is like a lost memory. Engraved in your mind, soul and heart. Summer breeze, chilled water and being suspended in air. This man is a genius along with all of the Newman family. This is music is undescribale and nobody can explain it. Even if it has no story or history it still brings the same feeling you recieve behind your eyes as you are about to cry. God bless this piece.

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  2. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    The Spirit Of Promise

    “[Having] believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise” (Eph. 1:13).

    Of all the wonderful Scripture passages on the eternal security of the believer in Christ, this is perhaps the most blessed of all.

    “[Having] heard the Word of truth you believed,” says the Apostle, and “[having] believed, you were sealed.” Now a seal speaks of finality and permanency, whether it be the official seal on an important document, the seal on an electric transformer or the seal on a jar of preserves. But the most blessed fact of all is that the believer in Christ is “sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise.” Mark well, he is sealed not by the Spirit but with the Spirit; the Spirit Himself is the seal.

    Here, let us say, is a woman sealing jars of preserves with wax. The jars are sealed by the woman, but with the wax. Thus the humblest believer is sealed with the Spirit. It is He Himself who keeps us safe in Christ through all eternity.

    And this is but the “earnest,” the first installment, “of our inheritance” (Ver. 14), for the Spirit keeps us secure in “this present evil age” so that “in the ages to come” God might show “the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus” (2:7).

    Little wonder the Apostle closes this passage on our security with those appropriate words: “To the praise of His glory” (1:14).

    What some theologians have called “the perseverance of saints” is not our perseverance at all, but God’s faithfulness. We have not persevered; He has preserved us by His grace for His glory.

    By Pastor Cornelius R. Stam

    https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/the-spirit-of-promise/

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
      14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

      Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

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    • Boots says:

      I needed this message. Really needed it. Thank you, DI.

      Boots, indwelt winter of 1972-1973.

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        Your welcome.
        Stay in the Word!

        1 Thessalonians 2:13 KJV

        For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

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  3. Heika says:

    How about a big fat fresh prayer for President Trump as he turns a corner like no corner has ever been taken in the last day – at last he seems free to be who he has always been. The Dimowits sure didn’t count on this being the result of their constant deceptive lying. Luongo puts it magnificently here – this was a pure delight to read. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
    “Are These The Five Tweets That Change The World?”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/luongo-are-these-five-tweets-change-world

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    • piper567 says:

      Heika, thanks for this link.
      ZH is rather uneven, so I don’t check in w/them much.
      This article is really a good’un, and offers a perspective which is certainly reasonable, and
      makes one think a bit.

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  4. Lucille says:

    Snoopy says…

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  5. teabag14 says:

    Amen. 🙏💖🇺🇸

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  6. Lucille says:

    Claude Monet “Autumn Effect At Argenteuil”

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  7. David says:

    Here is your Israeli friend again. So Trump withdrew the American troops from Syria and got criticism from various politicians in the US. He then announced to Turkey that “if they do anything un-humane to the Kurds he will destroy their economy.” There are reports of aerial Turkish attacks on the Kurds as a preliminary plan to a major attack.
    So here is my explanation and a video that will give you better understanding than all the MSM.
    1. Yes, the US troops should return home fro Syria and some other 20 nations. It will save trillions of dollars that America can use internally.
    2. Unfortunately there is a tragedy here because the Kurds were the best allies of the US in the war against ISIS. They are very good people and friends of Israel. Israel even trained them a while ago. They are fierce warriors and we used to joke about the “mighty ISIS gets their ass kicked by Kurdish women”. Unfortunately they can’t survive against the huge Turkish army. It’s really sad.
    Truly consider them enemies because they afraid of a formation of Kurdish state in their area. Turkey has committed a huge holocaust against the Kurds way back in history.
    3. It’s not too late and Trump is showing signs that he is trying to prevent a huge disaster of Kurds.
    The video explains the Kurds very well. It’s only a few minutes.

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    • David says:

      Typo:”Turkey consider them enemies”

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    • mikeyboo says:

      I think and hope you are correct, David, and that Pres Trump is finding the way to reverse course. It would be a terrible mistake, in many ways, to betray the Kurdish people who have been our allies.

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      • David says:

        Thanks for the link. Interesting.
        I agree with most of it with two exceptions:
        1. There is a moral obligation to prevent Turkey from wiping out the Kurds. After all they were allies who fought ISIS.
        I do believe that Trump understands and will do what’s needed to retrain Turkey.
        2. Israel is described as the “policy makers” of the US. This is simply not true! I can give you a very long list of how Israel is restrained by the US. The US is obviously the boss and we know it. But Israel has its own stand too.
        Example: Obama prevented Israeli attack on the Iranian nuclear sites. And in 1973 Kissinger stopped Israel from wiping out the Egyptian army when Israel had them surrounded in the desert. And there is a long list of Israeli acting under American pressure. So it’s not fair to suggest that Israel is making America fight.
        On the other hand yes, it’s an Israeli interest if the US stopped the Iranians. But Netanyahu knows very well that Trump is not the type who would go to war unless American safety is involved.
        Take care,
        David

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        • icanhasbailout says:

          OK so here’s the big picture strategic situation that Israel will need to move into alignment with.

          The days of the US military roaming the globe trying to fix everybody else’s problems are over. We’re bringing our guys home – not immediately, but that’s where we’re headed. We gave it a real shot and experience taught us that it was not a realistic endeavor, each time we have ended up with worse problems than we started with.

          War is hell. Nobody on either side has a good time of it other than the folks who sell the weapons. Fighting a war pours productive assets into non-productive outcomes. Everyone ends up the poorer, if not equally. We will go to war to defend ourselves. We expect everyone else to shoulder their own responsibility for doing the same.

          The US is not limited to military power. The US is still more than a quarter of the global economy, and we are closely allied with Japan, which, along with other nations which will follow our policy, gives us more or less direct control over half the global economy. This is a power than can be exercised decisively and quickly. Far faster than shipping an army somewhere. And it can be turned on and off tactically and strategically.

          Turkey will be a case study in how this works. The Kurds in Syria aren’t depending on those 50 soldiers to defend themselves. They are depending on strategic cover from the United States to restrain Turkey. Turkey in turn wants to defend its own sovereignty from the PKK – a valid objective. The United States, meanwhile, doesn’t want to be involved in what is not our fight, and I think you could get a good consensus that we don’t want Turkey in NATO anymore because they’re more problem than solution in recent decades.

          The new policy cuts this Gordian knot by replacing military power with economic power. The only way Turkey can really impose its will on the Kurds, who are well armed experienced fighters, is to mount a major invasion. Simultaneously to announcing the new policy, Trump demonstrated that he could literally crash the Turkish economy with a tweet.

          Even if the Turks do mount a major invasion, the immediate economic crisis that would ensue will ensure they can’t sustain it long enough to wipe out the Kurds.

          The Kurds will be just fine. And if they can get the backing of a Syrian government which has interest in defending its claims to sovereignty, they will be more than fine.

          As far as Israel goes, I’m not worried at all. It’s the one country that more than any other is already in alignment with the notion that it is individual nations’ own responsibility to defend themselves. IMO the core conflict here is 3 sided, Iran vs. Saudi vs. Turkey, and both the US and Israel should stay out of the crossfire.

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      • David says:

        Thanks for the link. Interesting.
        I agree with most of it with two exceptions:
        1. There is a moral obligation to prevent Turkey from wiping out the Kurds. After all they were allies who fought ISIS.
        I do believe that Trump understands and will do what’s needed to retrain Turkey.
        2. Israel is described as the “policy makers” of the US. This is simply not true! I can give you a very long list of how Israel is restrained by the US. The US is obviously the boss and we know it. But Israel has its own stand too.
        Example: Obama prevented Israeli attack on the Iranian nuclear sites. And in 1973 Kissinger stopped Israel from wiping out the Egyptian army when Israel had them surrounded in the desert. And there is a long list of Israeli acting under American pressure. So it’s not fair to suggest that Israel is making America fight.
        On the other hand yes, it’s an Israeli interest if the US stopped the Iranians. But Netanyahu knows very well that Trump is not the type who would go to war unless American safety is involved.
        Take care,
        David

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        • bessie2003 says:

          Glad that you were able to find it interesting.

          “Interesting observation” is the very phrase I used when sharing it onto my FB page to open dialogue with friends and family who now simply listen to the main stream media to know what to think about things, and hoped to give them something new to consider.

          It worked.

          It is interesting that even in today’s world, there is an automatic assumption that the United States is the only nation required to take on “moral obligations” for messes created by others.

          Will have to take that into consideration.

          My working theory, and it’s just one that has been rumbling around the brain for a few years, for people to be truly free, individual, creative – as a nation, they must, on their own will and initiative, be the ones to demand, fight for, and establish the framework for them to express, as a nation, their freedom.

          The United States did that. Israel has certainly done that, and continues to on a daily basis. Should we, or Israel, deny the Kurds the right to create in their own image what their freedom should be? My musings also say we are observing the young in HK (and I suspect many millions of sympathizers in the larger body on the mainland) are in the first stages of that push for freedom.

          Does the United States have a moral obligation to interfere in that process too?

          These are the type of questions that help to frame our future development as individual nations. At least that’s what percolates in this brain. In fact, we, the United States, may actually have a moral obligation to step back, let unfold in the Middle East that which has been stifled for the past decade or so. Let the Middle East finally determine what they want to be as that process was stifled at the end of the Ottoman Empire by the intrusion of European leaders who at that time, at the end of WWI felt they had a “moral obligation” to divvy up the lands and peoples .
          Questions, this is all they are.
          Greatly appreciate your observations.
          Peace to you.

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    • icanhasbailout says:

      Pay attention, Dave.

      We just demonstrated that we can crash the Turkish currency AT WILL.

      Meanwhile Lindsey G is publicly and repeatedly demanding they back off.

      The US has more ability to restrain Turkey by NOT being there.

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      • David says:

        I pretty much agree with you. It’s better for the US to take the troops home. They got the job done and can leave. You have Israel as representative of the West in the area with the strongest army. You have no reason to be there. Syria is a real sinkhole.
        And true, the US can crush Turkey’s economy. I hope they will back off.
        As for Iran, it’s a problem of the entire world. The US and Israeli agencies are working together to stop the nuke program.

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        • icanhasbailout says:

          Iran isn’t going to stand down while we line their border with bases, troops and ships in three directions. Would you, in their shoes?

          Any war with Iran will be fought with terror, anti-ship missiles and strategic weapons, so the bases are of limited real use. Troops and bases are for occupying territory which is exactly what we are not wanting to do.

          Israel has a lot more moral justification to contend with Iran than we do. We are mostly there to secure oil supplies which we really don’t need anymore now that we’re the world’s top producer.

          Iran can’t expand directly, they’re not going to invade Iraq or Pakistan or Russia, and if they invade Afghanistan I don’t care. If Saudis want to survive they can buy defenses instead of solid gold skyscrapers – outrageous that the US is subsidizing defense of the highest per-capita GDP countries in the world there, especially since they use so much of their surplus to cause trouble.

          If I’m playing Iran in this game right now, I need the nukes. If there’s maybe a dozen US bases on my borders instead of 50 (current situation) then I have the luxury to stand that down and talk peace and economy, which I need to deal with a restive population increasingly at odds with the ruling ideology.

          I say if Iran gets a dignified path towards modernity and peaceful co-existence they will take it. Not if it’s forced on them, only if they choose it. History of Persia suggests they will, readily, under the proper conditions.

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  8. Garrison Hall says:

    From the Ken Burn’s country music documentary . . . Dwight Yoakam talks about “Holding Things Together” by Merle Haggard.

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  9. Lucille says:

    A Flock of Ford Hot Rods Found in Fairbanks, AK |Barn Find Hunter – Ep. 52

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  10. dogsmaw says:

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      • Lucille says:

        A pretty sad and big wake-up call for all African-Americans who decide to think for themselves…friends abandon you…work can become scarce…you receive insults…you are persona non grata to the hateful left. But we welcome you with open arms, brothers and sisters…welcome to the world of freedom.

        “Free at last; free at last; praise God Almighty, we are free at last.”

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    • OW21 says:

      Because they are the real racists….

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  11. Sepp says:

    The largest network of Minnesota Trump supporters.

    http://www.magasota.com/about

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  12. citizen817 says:

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  13. Dora says:

    Maurice Prendergast, Along the Seine, 1892

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  15. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.”
    Galatians 5:22 (KJV)

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  16. youme says:

    Putting things in perspective:

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  17. WeeWeed says:

    Mornin’ infidels!

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  18. covfefe999 says:

    Testing my new WordPress account. Someone posted comments using my ID a couple of days ago, it was not a WordPress account, I’m hoping this will resolve the issue.

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    • OW21 says:

      covfefe999 – seems to be working. I have changed my account name as well as someone else was using pretty much the same name. Same person, shorter name now – OW21.

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  19. just stevie says:

    THE EXCLUSIVENESS OF CHRIST

    “Come unto Me.” Matthew xi. 28

    Is it not humiliating to be told that we must come to Jesus! Think of the things we will not come to Jesus Christ about. If you want to know how real you are, test yourself by these words – “Come unto Me.” In every degree in which you are not real, you will dispute rather than come, you will quibble rather than come, you will go through sorrow rather than come the last lap of unutterable foolishness – “Just as I am.” As long as you have the tiniest bit of spiritual impertinence, it will always reveal itself in the fact that you are expecting God to tell you to do a big thing, and all He is telling you to do is to “come”.

    “Come unto Me.” When you hear those words you will know that something must happen in you before you can come. The Holy Spirit will show you what you have to do, anything at all that will put the axe at the root of the thing which is preventing you from getting through. You will never get further until you are willing to do that one thing. The Holy Spirit will locate the one impregnable thing in you, but He cannot budge it unless you are willing to let Him.

    How often have you come to God with your requests and gone away with the feeling – Oh, well, I have done it this time! And yet you go away with nothing, whilst all the time God has stood with outstretched hands not only to take you, but for you to take Him. Think of the invincible, unconquerable, unwearying patience of Jesus – “Come unto Me.”

    Oswald Chambers
    October 8th Devotional

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  21. Dora says:

    He looks nice and comfortable.

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    • OW21 says:

      Dora – I could be wrong but I don’t think that is a Polar bear. It is a brown bear (Grizzly). This time of year, they plump up eating all the salmon they can get. There is actually a “fat bear” contest online that you can watch and vote on. I think his lighter coat color has you confused – probably just the way it was photographed. Nose color and head shape and body shape are all wrong for a Polar bear. Cute video, though!

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  22. jimboct says:

    One thing I would love to read about is the Presidents faith. We know he’s attended church. We know he embraces prayer. I’d love to know how his relationship with Jesus Christ manifests itself in his day to day war against evil. VSGPDJT is in a war for his soul and the soul of America. So many snakes and other crawling things try to beat him down.
    Thanks to the Lord for His continued countenance and Love.

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    • NICCO says:

      I believe that his faith has grown immensely over this time that he has had to deal with these hyenas/jackals.It is up to us the honorable ,righteous,patriotic and most important godly men and women of our great nation and let our voices be heard in the heavenly realm on a daily basis with prayer for I believe the greatest president we have ever had..Father we cover our president Donald John Trump with the precious blood of Jesus Christ and ask for protection,strength,wisdom ,favor and your anointing to such a degree that those who are not for our nation and its people be humbled and brought to nothing ,in the name above all names,Jesus Christ.Amen

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  23. mandy says:

    “Following a renewed surge in protest unrest and violence in the wake of the controversial mask ban which went into effect on Saturday, Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam has for the first time issued public warning that the Chinese military could step in, saying this drastic step would only happen if it “becomes so bad”.

    Expressing hope it won’t come to that, and that the situation will resolve itself under local authorities, she noted that the four month-long raging protests were no longer “a peaceful movement for democracy” and urged outside critics to understand this.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/first-public-warning-hk-leader-says-chinese-army-could-step-against-rioters

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  24. Moe Grimm says:

    Maybe you folks have seen this, but if not:
    Here is the (t)otal number of the Dead Elephant caucus who voted to censure Schiff – re: Andrew Biggs (AZ-5) as House Resolution 604 – Condemning and censuring Adam Schiff, Representative of California’s 28th Congressional District.. Sum total out of the ENTIRE Dead Elephant caucus. This is only a part (part) but a part of the reason I and many others I know here in the S. Plains think this Country will have to be taken back by force. Run the list to ascertain if you own any of the Muts (names) missing from this list. I say had this vote been taken under Michelle’s cowards in the senate the results, given the obvious differences in legislative bodies and number, would have been similar https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/604/cosponsors?r=1. Does it Disgust you as well?

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  25. czarowniczy says:

    Those saying a single-pay government medical program is the way to go, that we should can all of the private and government medical programs and create one huge government-run super program should look at our military Tricare program.

    As a retiree I get TRicare For Life to use as my Medicare copay program. Part of that’s the Tricare Pharma program managed by a major mail order pharma supply company. The company contracts with the Defense Health Agency ( a huge bureaucracy created a few years back to increase the number of Federal civilian and military employment slots) and sends us our prescriptions…sounds neat, eh?

    Well the last few summers the meds have been sitting in hot vehicles in transit from their warehouses to our mailboxes (they go snail, not schnell mail) ands the heat causes issues. My wife had one med that had to be shipped chilled but it usually arrived toasty – they put chill bags in but it still went snail. I had some that didn’t require chilling but were damaged by the heat – one shipment of gel caps arrived melted into a lump.

    Our meds are 99% generic so they aren’t that expensive, I thought that it might be to our benefit to suspend shipment and just buy them out-of-pocket locally for the summer months. Imagine my surprise when I found that with a GoodRx coupon the same generic drugs I was getting through the mail on a DoD contract were cheaper out-of-pocket were as cheap or cheaper than what my DoD Tricare copay was. That was my copay and didn’t include what the contractor was charging DoD.

    DoD has been screaming like a stuck pig about the Tricare costs to them and it would be to their advantage to work a contract with major chain drug stores to provide these scrips to Tricare retirees rather than their current contractor, never mind the ability of recipients to get drugs that haven’t cooked in the back of trailers for days. Savings for the government and better quality for the enrollee – win/win eh? So far the Senators’ offices have been saying they hit a brick wall, the bureaucratic excuses they get from the DHA is…well…like hitting a brick wall.

    So now we’re buying most of our scrips locally, paying for them ourselves and while it may cost, overall, a tad more than getting them through the mail we have fresher meds, faster service and the ability to address related issues immediately. Single payer…yeah.

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    • wondering999 says:

      Thank you czar for a very specific comment on an important topic. Worth saving and passing along to our legislators

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      • czarowniczy says:

        Any of y’all whose health insurance requires you to use their mail order pharmacy not only risk getting overcharged with a co-pay but risk having your meds heat damaged by their sitting in hot USPS vehicles during summer.

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  26. czarowniczy says:

    About 4.6 million people on Tricare…20% of the US population on Medicaid and about 44 million on Medicare. Three different huge, lumbering bureaucracies all managing medical-related programs, all inefficient and hugely wasteful. Three bureaucracies doing what one should. And they want to bring in all 360ish million under one government program? Imagine trying to appeal, say, what amounts to a personal death sentence through some bureaucratic clerk’s screwup in that maze.

    It ain’t a good day for me in the government medical area.

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  27. icanhasbailout says:

    Some smooth jazz to brighten your day.

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  28. islandpalmtrees says:

    YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING

    We now have a new phrase for american politics, Impeachment Lite. Just as filling with no calories or should I say facts. Schiff when asked – can we see the Whistleblower. Well we are hiding this person for now. You mean the person who said we heard another person say they heard the President say something. Yes, that’s right – then when do you an the rest of the Dems plan to follow the Impeachment process we have had for the last 140 years. Schiff, their is really no need for this since we have already decided the results.

    Then Schiff, when do you expect to get the Impeachment Lite done – we are hoping to finish at the same time the OIG FISA abuse report is due out. What will you say to those who are convinced, this is just a distraction from the OIG FISA abuse report. They don’t understand the serious nature of the President’s crimes. What crimes or those – well former VP Biden said it best “he has not followed the norms of previous presidents”.

    Well Schiff, what norms would that be, you know the usual, putting their drug addled kids on the board of large companies in exchange for money for arms, etc.

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  29. Dora says:

    Quite an experience. The women were screaming and running all around the place. The deer got away. 🙂

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  30. tozerbgood8315 says:

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  31. Happy World Octopus Day! Nautilus posts stunning display by dumbo big flapped octopos.

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  32. tozerbgood8315 says:

    Hey sundance – how well does this info match up with what we know about Micheal Barry?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/whistleblower-had-professional-tie-to-2020-democratic-candidate

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  33. Lucille says:

    This is one of the many poisonous actions the left inflicts on the unsuspecting…

    “Mom Discovers Why Daughter is Sick: School Nurse Secretly Implanted Birth Control Without Her Permission”
    By Steven Ertelt – October 4, 2019 Baltimore, Maryland
    https://www.lifenews.com/2019/10/04/mom-discovers-why-daughter-is-sick-school-nurse-secretly-implanted-birth-control-without-her-permission/

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    • czarowniczy says:

      I’ve posted this a couple of times before but I believe it bears repeating:

      NOLA runs free school supply giveaways before school starts each year. The sheriff used to send a few of us over to keep order and make sure knuckleheads didn’t interfere.

      Back in the late 90s I was working the inside area with a black deputy
      (he was a father) when we came on a table run by a local school-based medical group. On the table, in an area themed for elementary and middle school students, was a huge fishbowl of condoms. The other deputy asked what they were for and the nurse said they were to encourage the kids to practice safe sex. The deputy got irate and said that sex by even 9th grade students was illegal and the display could be seen as promoting an illegal act and it was irresponsible for them to be doing anything but discouraging underage sex. The nurses just waved him off.

      As he stared at the bowl he reached in and pulled one out, examined one and asked why they were ‘flavored condoms’? To promote a safe oral sex activity, he was told.
      it took me about an hour to calm him down.

      Yeah, you don’t know WHAT’S going on in your kids’schools.

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      • wondering999 says:

        Yeah, I had urged my kid to take one of the school busses to a school activity that was on the afternoon route home. She said mom, you don’t want me on that bus. I pressed her for why. Why? Because there were kids having intercourse in the back of that middle school bus. I’m of two minds about this; one is that the nurse is being realistic about what is actually already happening, and no baby deserves to be thrown into an irresponsible sexual situation by accident.
        But the second is that a lot of adults have let those middle schoolers down by allowing that sort of degraded situation to go on, encouraging it even.
        The media and many other authorities present sexual activity as something “adult”, “cool”, “alpha”. In fact, sexuality in inappropriate settings with inappropriate partners is degrading to all participants, and has a way of turning both males and females into unwitting victims.
        Don’t engage in sexual acts if you don’t intend to shoulder all responsibilities (conception, disease, intense emotional involvement); and middle schoolers are too young for reproductive responsibilities. As adults we need to encourage them to put their energies and self-respect elsewhere than in sexual displays intended to intimidate other students, but how many activities are designed to hook the students up in some way or another?

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        • czarowniczy says:

          I’m more PO’d at the nurse, not an MD, is performing an invasive procedure on a child without out the parent’s knowledge, never mind permission. That’s MY kid, not the school’s or state’s and I do not want the state determining subjective moral principles for my kid, never mind poking holes in him/her.

          I remember the old line Communists who wanted all sexual laws, especially those related to minimum age of consent, abolished as they knew that would make kids their thralls, do away with moral early enough and you have the basis for a functional People’s Tool.

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          • wondering999 says:

            Yes but when the school artificially sets up “dating” situations to force kids to display their sexuality in public situations, that’s the beginning of the problem. I’m thinking of an NYC 4th grader who was coerced to invite some boy to a “Sadie Hawkins” dance as part of a classroom project. This girl still liked to play with dolls, she didn’t want or need a “boyfriend” or any pretense thereof. Her parents complained, rightfully so, but it was the schoolteachers and administrators who set the whole inappropriate thing up, to begin with. Adults running schools should refrain from things that are “not in their purview” and that includes the “romantic life” of children

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  34. Sentient says:

    Someday – hopefully soon – Ruth Bader Ginsburg will be done on the Supreme Court. When she is, we must remember the Amy Coney Barrett is NOT a good replacement. Coulter is right.

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  35. wtd says:

    Hong Kong’s bourse says it has dropped its $39 billion bid to take over London Stock Exchange Group, saying it had been unable to bring the takeover target’s management on board with its unsolicited approach. More here: https://reut.rs/30UemFy

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  36. bcsurvivor2 says:

    Is anyone going to The Women’s march in DC on the 17th??
    My friend and I are going. Hope some more treepers will be there. Given that the rooms around DC are booked I am thinking thousands of people are going to support our President. I snagged a condo 2 blocks from the capitol where the rally is taking place at the very last second. Whew!
    I’ll take pics and try to get audio…hopefully our lovely ADREM will help me post them.
    MAGA 2020

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      I am not, but I was there the whole week of the inaugural festivities. Stayed about 30 miles outside the city, easy commute on the light rail line.
      You can save hundreds, or even thousands.

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  37. auscitizenmom says:

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  38. auscitizenmom says:

    A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Gen. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  39. Take a break.
    Remember when ? 🙂

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  40. icanhasbailout says:

    I am the terror that flaps in the night.

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  41. MR52 says:

    Toms Paine is claiming that one of the whistle blowers is John Bolton. I know it has been discussed here before. Paine indicated that Bolton is on a revenge tour. It amazes me how many spoil brats that don’t get their way react. How petty and short sighted people have become

    https://truepundit.com/there-is-a-lot-of-speculation-that-john-bolton-is-the-second-whistleblower/

    .
    This video rings so true.

    Not sure if I saw this one here, but it is worth repeating.

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