September 23rd – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #977

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494 Responses to September 23rd – 2019 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #977

  1. arze says:

    Who really created the 25th Amendment discussion? The NYTimes claimed it was Rosenstein, but was it? There is evidence of course Rosenstein offered to secretly record President Trump.

    But where did the 25th Amendment discussion originate?

    Tale of two tales: NYTimes — ‘Rod Rosenstein Suggested Secretly Recording Trump and Discussed 25th Amendment’ story of 9/21/2018; and the Judicial Watch release today of Andrew McCabe’s ‘contemporaneous recollection’ memo he wrote May 16, 2017, the day before Mueller appointment.

    My first takeaway is that the 25th Amendment dimension of the NYTimes story, as that relates to Rosenstein suggesting it — this is not substantiated, based on the newly released JW McCabe memo.

    Judicial Watch explicitly requested

    “The Justice Department turned over the document last Friday at 5:27 pm in a Judicial Watch February, 2019 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed after the Justice Department and FBI failed to respond to September 2, 2018 FOIA requests for documents about any FBI/DOJ discussions regarding the 25th Amendment and plans to secretly record President Trump in the Oval Office”

    JW received the May 16 2017 McCabe memo from DOJ which it released today.

    The DOJ stated, in their response to JW [who filed a lawsuit to obtain the material]:

    “As referenced in our letter responding to your Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request, the FBI FOIPA Addendum includes information applicable to your request.”

    The NYTimes begin their Sept. 21, 2018 story as follows:

    [[[The deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, suggested last year that he secretly record President Trump in the White House to expose the chaos consuming the administration, and he discussed recruiting cabinet members to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Mr. Trump from office for being unfit.]]]

    This chaos, of course, is actually that being created by the DOJ, CIA, FBI, etc. But that is another discussion for another day.

    The NYT story refers to two May 16, 2017 meetings of Rosenstein and McCabe. The story says at one of them at which Lisa Page was at, she stated 25th amendment never came up.

    In the McCabe May 16, 2017 memo, at which Page was not at, the 25th Amendment is not mentioned — at all.

    So: Who really created the 25th Amendment discussion?

    How did that end up in the NYTimes story?

    The May 16, 2017 McCabe memo states that in addition to he and Rosenstein: “Also present were Tashina Gauhar and Jim Crowell. The following is a contemporaneous recollection of the main topics we discussed. . . .”

    Sundance and Technofog to their great credit have been onto Gauhar.

    What’s interesting to me is that McCabe told Rosenstein, his boss, that Rosenstein was a witness in the “case” against President Trump.

    McCabe’s memo summarizes the “obstruction” dimension in a few sentences, none of which could have been written by anyone but a partisan zealot, as follows:

    “Regarding the obstruction issues, I made clear that our predication was based not only on the president’s comments last week to reporter Lester Holt (that he conne¢ted the firing of the director to the FBl’s Russia investigation), but also on the several concerning comments the president made to Director Corney over the last few months. These comments included the President’s requests for assurances of loyalty, statements about the Russia investigation and the investigation of General Michael Flynn. I also informed the DAG that Director Corney preserved his recollection of these interactions in a series of contemporaneously drafted memos. Finally, I informed the DAG that as a result of his role in the matter, I thought he would be a witness in the case….”

    This is what $30 million was spent on. Fear of Flynn and Trump. What a disaster.

    What a colossal corruption we have been subjected to.

    I look forward to Gauhar’s eventual testimony in front of a congressional committee….but won’t hold my breath.

    Ditto Rosenstein.

    One last thought on this for now….

    Assuming the McCabe memo is accurate [“As our conversation continued the DAG proposed that he could potentially wear a recording device into the Oval Office to ollect additional evidence on the President’s true intentions”] . . .The entire leadership of the DOJ and FBi were blatantly violating the civil rights of President Trump.

    There are other ways to say this. Breaking the law is simplest way. Them being indicted is the simplest solution and going to jail the proper outcome.

    Imagine that Trump had no one in charge of DOJ and FBI except those out to get him removed from office.

    Where were whistleblowers who were aware of this, and if there were none, what is one to conclude from that?

    Trump obviously knew what was going on.

    So here goes: the Mueller appointment was the least of all the evils, at the time.

    Of course, I don’t believe Mueller should have been appointed; just to say — that compared to the incompetence and villainy of DOJ and FBI leadership, this makes rational sense.

    Trump, being a rational man, and seeing there was a trap set: Fire DOJ/FBI leadership, and be accused of more “watergate” obstruction nonsense, or go along with Mueller appointment.

    What a sorry sorry sorry state of affairs.

    Back then, I had hoped Trump would have cleaned house at DOJ and FBI, and fire many, many of those seditious actors. I still wished he had.

    Perhaps he recognized that the House and Senate would have probably gone along with the seditious ones and thus had no choice?

    At the time: Devin Nunes was only one out of 535 who stood up to this gross violation of Trump’s civil rights.

    Had Trump not compromised and accepted Mueller, I don’t know if Trump would have been removed by House and Senate from office.

    Had he called their bluff, and fired all in DOJ and FBI that deserved firing, the Senate Impeachment hearing would have been an interesting spectacle.

    And all of the stuff that has dribbled out since would have all been part of that spectacle at the time….Who knows, the Senate Trial might still be ongoing, had that route been taken….

    Trump, to his credit, knows full well who his Republican Enemies are in the US House and Senate.

    In any event, had he been removed by a Senate trial, over nothing, the long road from the JFK assassination to the disposal of Trump would have completed the destruction of our Republic. End of Story.

    And would have forced us to either go along with it, or rebel. In time, that may eventually come, too, perhaps….



  2. bessie2003 says:

    Hope this post isn’t a duplicate. The President and PM of Pakistan answer questions from the press:

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  3. youme says:

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  4. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    Actual quote from POTUS just now while in bilateral meeting with PM of Singapore, talking about his observing Rudy’s appearance on CNN’s Cuomo show:

    “I watched Rudy take apart Fredo”

    Doesn’t get any better than that.

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  9. Ausonius says:

    Today Rush Limbaugh played a collage* of teenagers and even younger kids shouting, preaching, crying, whining, screaming, and repeating Leftist lies about Climate Change (e.g. 12 years left to live), along with threatening, scolding, and condemning their parents and grandparents for killing the planet.

    Absolutely chilling: it reminded me of the children in Communist countries and in the Hitler Youth who turned in their parents and other relatives as traitors to the cause.

    * I cannot find it on YouTube or his website (not a member) , but it must be available somewhere.


  10. MakeAmericaGreat says:

    More on the Bidens and Ukraine, and their lefty enablers.

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  11. Have “forever” LED light-bulbs in fact been programmed to ‘burn out?'”

    This has now happened to me in three entirely separate and should-be unrelated incidents: the LED light-bulbs that I have installed, expecting never to have to replace them again, have begun to “annoyingly flicker.” Throughout my house and in several other places, LEDs which were replaced at more-or-less the same time have lately begun to “flicker, annoyingly” in the exact same way. I have therefore begun to suspect: deliberate programming.

    So … anybody else out there?


    • FofBW says:

      Maybe you are being microwaved! 🙂

      No, I have them and so far ok, but who knows.


    • iswhatitis says:

      My oldest LED to-date is a just-about 2-years-old low-lumens “stove hutch” light. It’s been on 24×7 (serves as the kitchen “night light”). So far so good (probably jinxed it now ).

      I only have one other LED to-date: a 10-month old outside LED “bug light” that is (also) on 24×7. So far, so good..

      It’s my first LED bug light. (I live in the midwest, so it has thus far survived 1 cold winter and 1 scorching summer). Previously, my CFL bug lights lasted about 6-months each; while the older incandescents lasted about 2-3 months each.

      (I actually keep documented track of my bug light, and certain other bulb, replacements – since 2012 when I began).

      I guess that, even if the LED bug light were to fail soon; it still appears to have outlasted the CFL’s and incandescents. But I only have one sample-size for LED so far.

      No “flickering” so far… Time will tell…


    • Katie says:

      I am going to sound so annoying right now, but I work in the lighting distributor industry. May I ask which LED brand bulb you have?


      • Actually, I don’t have any idea, and also “please trust me that I’m not wearing a tin-foil hat!” (Yay!)

        Nonetheless, I am now faced with several different fixtures that are right now, as I said, either “flickering” or maybe “pulsating.” And, they’re doing so more-or-less in precisely the same way. Every one of them is on “straight circuits,” every one was installed at approximately the same time, and every one of them has begun to pulsate in this way, although not every lamp in the same fixture has done so. (Furthermore, I’m actually seeing this right now in “more than one house.”)


        • Katie says:

          I don’t think you’re crazy lol I’m just curious because the LED chips are made in China and there are definitely brands that are better than others. I have Sylvania and Cree LEDs in my house and I have had some in my fixtures for over three years without a problem. It IS possible you got a bad batch or a brand that isn’t as good as the others.


    • bofh says:

      I have replaced nearly all of my incandescent bulbs with LEDs, and have not had a problem with flickering or burn-out. That said, LEDs can get weird with traditional dimmer controllers, so perhaps that’s your problem? Also, the LED arrays sold as fluorescent tube replacements are sometimes not really drop-in replacements due to considerations of ballast wiring. But my experience replacing simple 60 or 100 watt incandescent bulbs has been uniformly good over five years or so.

      Otherwise, maybe you have some wiring problems in your house that were covered up by the slower response time of the incandescent bulbs (i.e. the residual heat in the filament will continue to emit light during a short power glitch, while the LED can flicker even with brief power lapses).


  12. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  13. Bendix says:

    Common Core is still going strong in our schools. Parents who come home from a hard day’s work are being forced into involuntary servitude, having to teach their kids a new way of doing math, which the parents don’t know themselves.
    High-paid teachers get to make parents do THEIR jobs for them.
    Betsy DeVos is a dud.
    Get rid of her and get someone who will do the job.

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  14. linda4298 says:

    Here’s a good story Yet those who attended the state dinner for Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Friday tell a very different story.

    They say the affection between the first couple is genuine, demonstrative and mutually respectful behind the scenes.

    “It’s a real marriage, very affectionate,” said one Australian official who observed it up close and personal during the three-day state visit.


  15. Troublemaker10 says:

    ‘You have stolen my dreams and childhood’: Greta Thunberg sobs as she tells world leaders: ‘You’re still not mature enough to tell it like it is, the eyes of future generations are upon you’ – after Trump blithely upstages her at UN Climate Summit


  16. WeThePeople2016 says:


  17. Sundance: If you can find a copy of Bulls & Bears (Ken Fisher segment for the first 5 minutes of the second half-hour), I think it’s worth a post. He schools them all with practical common sense.

    • Everyone always argues we have too much Debt & unaffordable Unfunded Liabilities.

    • No one asks the question “What’s the RIGHT amount of Government Debt”

    Personal observation: ‘
    Demo☭rats’ game is to con Republicans into cutting spending to “rein in Deficits & Debt”
    … to flip voters over what they “Lost” or “Could have Had”
    … for D-rats to promise the world and retake control
    … so they can multiply handouts with the “Run Room” created by Republican “austerity”
    … and multiply their time in power.

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  18. WeThePeople2016 says:

    What the heck?


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  25. youme says:

    Another day…another threat


    • iswhatitis says:


      “If President Trump makes even the tiniest, slightest, microscopic mistake, in countering and defending against our non-stop team efforts to trip him up, while he defends against our convoluted schemes designed to cause exactly that – we’re all in for impeachment – which of course is the ultimate goal of all our efforts”.

      What a bunch of crooks and a load of crock.

      They’re all TREASONOUS and the penalty for THEM should be what Bill Weld calls for (and toss Weld on that pile also).

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  26. sunnydaze says:

    More of the Democrats using children. Yikes.


  27. Maybe they should build a wall…like an outfield wall………..
    Home and Away: American Ballplayers Are Flooding the Mexican League
    A recent rule change allows American-born players to go pro in Mexico—and they’re fielding a familiar backlash
    “For most of its nearly 100-year history, the Liga Mexicana de Béisbol was the province of the Mexican-born ballplayer. When Barreda signed with the Tijuana Toros in 2015, there was a seven-man limit on foreign-born players and he was the team’s only Mexican American player on the 40-man roster. But in the winter of 2016, a razor-thin majority of owners voted to expand a rule that defined who was a “native Mexican,” classifying anyone with verifiable Mexican heritage as native, which allowed clubs to draw from the much deeper pool of Mexican American ballplayers from across the border. If you had a Mexican ancestor and could qualify for a Mexican passport, you were Mexican in the eyes of the league.”
    “The rule has made the league more competitive, but it’s changed the face of Mexican baseball in the process, leading some native-born players, fans, and owners to ask an uncomfortable question: Who exactly is the Liga Mexicana de Béisbol for?”
    Yeah, them open borders is good for the goose, but not for the gander….the whole thing is a thinly-disguised “America is racist” screed, and full of Trump-bashing, but gotta enjoy the liberal hand-wringing and whining when they have to live by their own rules.

    The good news: this baseball team has cheerleaders!


  28. sunnydaze says:

    I knew an elderly couple quite well (German immigrants) who were part of the Hitler’s Kids movement in Germany. It was the same thing for them as in San Fran. : They were trained by the school system . Seems they were a little older than these 5YO’s in CA., tho. Like 9 or 10.

    This is so sick.

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  29. sunnydaze says:

    This is pretty funny, from the Climate Change Road shutdowns. Not sure why the cops didn’t just arrest the person and manhandle ’em off the van. Maybe they’re chained on? Funny, nonetheless.

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  30. jeans2nd says:

    Here is Sec Mnuchin on Lou Dobbs tonight – a must-see. 6:04

    From Lou Dobbs twitter feed –
    “@realDonaldTrump wants to make sure farmers aren’t collateral damage in the trade war. Farmers are important people to the President. @POTUS is using the tariffs strategically to bring China to the negotiating table& it’s working”

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  31. Bigly says:

    Of course if you are a Jew and the Arabs back your candidate for prime minister, what could go wrong? I mean, Iran (arabs) want to blow you off the map. Yeah. Go with the guy that says he will make strong man go away.


  32. sunnyflower5 says:

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    • Landslide says:

      The BEST!!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

      I feel sorry for anyone who does not keep up with President Trump’s tweets! They are pure gold. 👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻🇺🇸

      As we’ve heard him say…..”I’m President and they’re not!”

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  33. sunnyflower5 says:

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  34. SOLUTION to END the need for H1-B VISAS … FAST:
    Make them TEMPORARY and make them FUND elimination of the SKILL-SHORTAGE they fill.

    Limit Visa Duration to 6 months
    … Because this solution’s designed to ELIMINATE any Skills Shortage FAST.

    Limit Renewal to ONE per H1-B Visa-Holder.
    … To ELIMINATE cheap permanent Visas that keep Citizen Workers from getting trained.

    Charge a WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FEE per H1-B Visa-Holder.
    • Equal to 25% of Total Annual Compensation for Americans with the same Skills
    … So they Hire American if they can find one.
    • For every H1-B Visa issued and again for Renewal
    … So they Train up a Citizen Replacement FAST to avoid any Renewals.

    Use the WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FEE to train the Visa-Holder’s Citizen replacement
    … And train others to eliminate the Skills Shortage.


  35. Troublemaker10 says:

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  36. A2 says:

    I hope you all take a moment to read this heroic story about the Indian flight attendant who saved many American lives and others.


    3 days ago, 8 tweets, 2 min read Read on Twitter
    1) 33rd Anniversary of the Flight Attendant who saved American lives was killed by terrorists.She was the youngest person and first civilian to posthumously receive India’s highest award for gallantry.

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  37. beachbum31 says:

    15:00 on…. jaw dropping show. Mark Levin calling out the GOP Senate – my new hero.

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  38. Jason Ross says:

    Great …. however the majority of the voting public does not and will not watch Hannity. Or even know who Levin is.

    The rest of the media continues to circle the wagons and malign Trump with their false narratives. Millions of people are exposed to this.

    Levin was a never-Trumper all through 2015-2016. His impact on the electorate was negligible. Keep that in mind.


  39. JCM800 says:

    A+ PhattCat!


  40. sunnyflower5 says:

    This is clear. Zip it, Geraldo.


  41. sunnyflower5 says:

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