Thursday April 18th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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205 Responses to Thursday April 18th – Open Thread

  1. duchess01 says:

    Verse of the Day

    “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.”
    John 3:5 (KJV)

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  2. Dora says:

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  3. TigerBear says:

    Here is a link to a video at Citizen Free Press…….
    The fire appears to have been set…..Arson?!
    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/notre-dame-fire-person-moving-and-flash-on-the-roof/

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    • czarowniczy says:

      As I’d posted earlier, the company doing the work on the cathedral was very experienced in restoring old churches, they were building the scaffolding and not doing any work requiring heat sources, there were strict and longstanding procedures in place to address heat-producing procedures and the fire is thought to have been ignited almost simultaneously at two separate points.

      Through their selective silence the media and the French apologists seem to be trying to either spin this away from a possible Moslem involvement or drag the discussion out to that point where public interest flags. Those involved in the restoration didn’t just go to some barbershop bulletin board and pull the neatest business card off the cork board, a firm with deep and recognized experience in dealing with working on old cathedrals was chosen. Also little mentioned was the proven arson of Paris’s 2nd largest cathedral just a month prior.

      Let’s see if the French authorities plaster over this as the truth would bee too damaging. So far we’re not seeing much of the fire stories referring to Notre Dame as much more than a piece of cultural artwork, its religious significance is being played down and we’re being smoke-up-the-butted with constant reminders of how it’s been damaged and desecrated throughout it’s history. Pffft, no big deal, move along there’s nothing to see here.

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      • TigerBear says:

        Yes, I posted this at Stella’s Place right after I posted the video here.
        I’m not articulate but we had the same thought flow. 👍🏽👍🏽🙂
        TigerBear says:
        April 18, 2019 at 8:03 am
        Here is a surveillance video from Citizen Free Press and you will begin thinking this church was intentionally ignited. Restorative Master craftsmen do not leave things to chance, they close clean and put away all possible fire starters ect… and rarely are careless or negligent although many have wanted to blame the crew of which were not there when the fire broke out. But there is a person on the roof and it looks as though they caused the spark that caused the fire. Intentionally!
        https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/notre-dame-fire-person-moving-and-flash-on-the-roof/

        Sadly, France will most likely cover up any foul play that they discover during the investigation, especially since they have already deemed it an accident, even before the firefighters could get the flames under control and extinguished.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          Yeah, it’s starting to look like a lot of possible ‘other than usual suspect’ investigations. Sorta how the FBI spent as much time covering up their involvement in the Boston Marathon bombing as they did investigating the folks they knew early on had done it.
          “LOOK! LOOK! Over there, something bright and shiny on a red ribbon!”

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    • Bendix says:

      I notice that Mark Steyn stated the same thing that I and many, many others had been thinking.
      In the zeal to ward off any speculation, it was announced that it was an accident, before it was possible to know what happened.
      Very insulting to the intelligence of adults, and counter-productive, as now, no matter what the official pronouncement of the cause is, it will not be believed by many.
      https://www.steynonline.com/9307/fire-and-faith

      “In addition, the authorities’ eagerness to assure us that it was an accident at a time when such a conclusion could not possibly be known – and when their own response to the emergency was, to put it politely, somewhat dilatory – was itself enough to invite suspicion: “Sure, it might be an accident. But, even if it weren’t, they’d still tell us it was…”

      Mark also reminds us that the spire was actually a ‘modern’ addition to the church.
      Maybe the church without the spire is more symbolic than before.

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  4. duchess01 says:

    What Is the Easter Triduum?
    The Significance of the Three Days Leading up to Easter

    by Scott P. Richert
    Updated September 30, 2018

    https://www.learnreligions.com/what-is-the-easter-triduum-541518

    For Roman Catholic Christians as well as many Protestant denominations, the Easter Triduum (sometimes also referred to as the Paschal Triduum or simply, the Triduum) is the proper name for the three-day season that concludes Lent and introduces Easter. Technically speaking, a triduum refers simply to any three-day period of prayer. Triduum comes from Latin meaning “three days.”
    Easter Triduum

    The three 24-hour periods of the triduum include the major feasts for all four days at the heart of the Easter celebration: the evening feast of Holy Thursday (also called Maundy Thursday), Good Friday, Holy Saturday, and Easter Sunday. The Easter Triduum memorializes the suffering, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    In Anglican and Protestant denominations, like the Lutheran, Methodist and Reformed churches, the Easter Triduum is not considered a separate season, but rather one that includes portions of Lent and the Easter festival. For Roman Catholics since 1955, the Easter Triduum is formally considered a separate season.

    Holy Thursday
    Starting with the Mass of the Lord’s Supper on the evening of Holy Thursday, continuing through the Good Friday service and Holy Saturday, and concluding with vespers (evening prayer) on Easter Sunday, the Easter Triduum marks the most significant events of Holy Week (also known as Passiontide).

    On Holy Thursday, the Triduum begins for Catholics with the evening Mass of the Lord’s Supper, during which bells are rung and the organ played. The bells and organ will then remain silent until the Easter Vigil Mass. The Mass of the Lord’s Supper includes a ritual washing of feet in most Catholic congregations. The altars are stripped of ornamentation, leaving only the cross and candlesticks.

    For Protestant denominations that celebrate the Triduum, it begins with a simple evening worship service on Holy Thursday.

    Good Friday
    For Catholics and many Protestants, the Good Friday church ceremony is marked by a ritual unveiling of the main cross near the altar. This is the day that marks the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The Catholic worship service does not include Communion on this day. Catholics may ritually kiss the feet of the Jesus figure upon the cross; for some Protestants, a similar devotion has them simply touching the cross.

    Holy Saturday
    After nightfall on Holy Saturday, Catholics hold an Easter vigil service, which represents the faithful awaiting the resurrection of Jesus Christ after his burial. In some congregations, this vigil service is held before dawn on Easter Sunday. This service includes a ceremony of light and darkness, in which a paschal candle is lit to represent the resurrection of Christ; members of the congregation form a solemn procession to the altar.

    The Easter Vigil is considered the pinnacle of the Easter Triduum, especially for Catholics, and is usually celebrated with a devotion equal to that bestowed on Easter itself.

    Easter Sunday
    Easter Sunday marks the end of the Triduum and the beginning of the seven-week Easter season that will end with Pentecost Sunday. Easter Sunday church services for Catholics as well as Protestants is a joyous celebration of resurrection and rebirth of Jesus and mankind. Popular Easter symbolism includes many images of rebirth as found in the world of nature and from religious traditions through history, including fragrant lilies, newborn animals, and spring plant growth.

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  5. TigerBear says:

    For those who have their eyes open where Ann Coulter is concerned and have known she isn’t as true an American loving patriot as she has convinced many off….well….here’s your article and you were/are right. She is not worth our time nor dime!!

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ann-coulter-says-shed-consider-vote-for-bernie-sanders

    “If he went back to his original position, which is the pro-blue-collar position. I mean, it totally makes sense with him,” she said. If he went back to that position, I’d vote for him. I might work for him. I don’t care about the rest of the socialist stuff. Just– can we do something for ordinary Americans?”

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  6. kyblue says:

    Good Thursday you all…

    The other Rush has a piece today asking what would happen if conservatives behaved as the left is behaving? The lawlessness, the violence, the name calling. Nice commentary…

    https://www.wnd.com/2019/04/what-if-we-behaved-as-leftists-behave/

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  7. kyblue says:

    ISIS hasn’t claimed responsibility for the NotrvDame fire, but an ISIS linked group has issued a threat…

    https://www.westernjournal.com/isis-linked-group-posts-notre-dame-cathedral-warning-wait-next/

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    • czarowniczy says:

      I like the term ‘no links to terrorism’, it gives me the idea that the investigators are more looking to disprove terrorist links than determine the truth.

      The term ‘terrorism’ is easily made subjective so by centering on that it’s like trying to catch smoke in a butterfly net. Why not just say they have an independent investigation going on to determine the cause of the fire instead of publicizing that officials state terrorism or arson are not thought to be the causer? How/why say that before the investigators have even had their morning coffee?

      If I owned that company doing the restoration I’d be hiring my own investigators, it’s starting to sound like the official investigators are looking for ways to pin this on them.

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      • kyblue says:

        Think the investigators have been ordered to downplay the terrorism angle?

        I think you scored a direct hit with your last paragraph. The French government would love to blame the restoration company. Wouldn’t want another Muslim problem & this one would be massive. Herr Markel has probably given Macron explicit instructions on the white wash.

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        • czarowniczy says:

          The restoration company would cause one helluva lot less trouble than the army of Moslems that have infected France. From that first wave of pissed Algerian refugees who’ve settled, so to speak, in the French taxpayer’s pocket to the waves of latter day dross the French have allowed a huge influx of cultural pathogens in. Am I a bit rough here?

          The potential for Islamic violence is there, big time, and the French seem reluctant to deal with it.

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          • kyblue says:

            You aren’t being too rough. Germany, Sweden, France, the rest of the EU Europe is destroying its culture Some are waking up. Hope it’s not too late.

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            • czarowniczy says:

              Europe is committing cultural suicide, if the Moslem ’empire’ couldn’t hold onto and live in its own civilization what makes anyone think they won’t turn Europe’s (or ours) into the same pile of crap they wallow in now?

              Hey, Mohammedans, howzat Islamic space program going? Got anyone into space since Mohammed rode Buraq from Mecca to Jerusalem?

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  8. DanDeplorable says:

    “This is My body, given for you . . .” Luke 22:19

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  9. amwick says:

    I watched the Ingraham Angel and she had a segment on time magazine,, the 100 most influential edition.. It was kinda sickening… Seems that they have six different covers… here is just one..

    Naturally this ticked me off, so I did my own…

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  10. nikkichico7 says:

    Going Home
    APRIL 18, 2019

    Revelation 21:1-21

    The longer we live as Christians, the more we should feel like strangers in this world. Something within us recognizes that we’re outsiders here, and we yearn for that day when Jesus opens the door of heaven and welcomes us home. Although everything that God has prepared for us is beyond our comprehension, John helps us catch a glimpse by describing the contrast between what we know in this world and what it will be like in heaven.

    God will dwell among us. Throughout history, no human being could see God, but that barrier won’t remain, because sin will be eradicated in us. Since we will be completely righteous forever, we will no longer have to continually fight off unholy urges.

    Sin’s consequences will pass away. All the suffering that has afflicted us will end. There will be no more tears, death, mourning, or pain. That is when we will discover firsthand the truth of Psalm 16:11: “In Your presence is fullness of joy; in Your right hand there are pleasures forever.”

    Our new home will be glorious. Jesus assured His disciples He was going to prepare a place for them in His Father’s house (John 14:2-3 In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.) The location is the New Jerusalem, and since it’s a cube 1,500 miles on a side (Revelation 21:16 The city is laid out as a square, and its length is as great as the width; and he measured the city with the rod, fifteen hundred miles; its length and width and height are equal.) there’ll be plenty of room for every believer. That remarkable place radiates the brilliance of God’s glory like a large multi-faceted diamond—John compared its beauty to a bride who’s adorned for her husband on their wedding day.

    Fix a mental image of John’s description in your mind. In those moments when this life disappoints you, remember that you’re not home yet.

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  11. citizen817 says:

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    • millwright says:

      Amy: Anyone that’s ever seen an old American Oak-framed barn burn knows what this man is talking about ! That oak was 800 years’ old . I’ve burned 100+ year old oak beam that’s much smaller dimensioned . It doesn’t erupt in to flame. OTOH, I’ve also burnt oak firewood from 100+ year old trees . Burns very hot and trunk wood burns comparitively slowly .

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  12. warrprin1 says:

    Sundance,
    Thank you for leading us through the quagmire of lies – the sorrow each of us has faced as we’ve been forced to recognize the decay, distortion, and disruption, now present within the inner circles of the government that our Founding Fathers gave us, and our military heroes defended and protected with their very lives.

    Your work is inspired and sustained by the Almighty God, Himself. He has endowed you with the precious Gift of understanding the complex, the ability to break it down for those of us to whom he has given other Gifts, and the Love, Patience, Energy, and Courage to shine the Lord’s Light on the Truth.

    We all pray for you, Sundance, Menagerie, and Ad Rem. Please accept my gratitude, today, and for all time. You are truly doing God’s Work.

    God bless and protect President Donald J. Trump. We, the Faithful, know that whatever happens from this hour forward, Jesus Messiah went to the Cross willingly, to sacrifice Himself in our place, for the Forgiveness of all our sins, if we will only Believe.

    it’s 9:26am. Let’s Roll.

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    • millwright says:

      andyo: Shotguns tend to shutdown this sort of thing ! Being multi-purpose sorts of devices they can be loaded with anything from rock salt ( good for discouraging teen behaviors ) to bean bags to ” rubber bullets ” to serious stuff like bird shot, buck shot and slug shot . Nowadays, there’s even more “non/semi lethal ” choices like firecracker rounds . Wild animals need to learn to avoid civilized people .

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  13. Dora says:

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    • socrates says:

      Well at least he did not praise Allah or mention himself 400 times.

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    • millwright says:

      Dora: Notre Dame; where God makes stone fly ! From the soaring grace and majesty of its flying buttresses, to the towering scrolls and arches motifs of its towers, to the comedic aspects of its gargoyles, Notre Dame has long been not merely a Catholic Church. but a monument to man’s higher aspirations !

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  15. Sepp says:

    Great Week and Pascha

    Next week is Great and Holy Week in the Orthodox Christian Church.

    The link below is to an excellent article of several short paragraphs with a few sentences in each that encourages, reminds, urges, exhorts, instructs, and asks questions of Christians to help them to focus on our Lord God and Saviour Jesus Christ during Great Week and the Church’s Divine Services.

    The article’s content is truly suitable for all believers in the Holy Trinity.

    “As Holy Week Approaches”

    http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/as-holy-week-approaches.aspx

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    • Sepp says:

      Great Lent continues in the Orthodox Church with the fasting, prayers, almsgiving, and so forth that characterize it. One particular prayer that is very ancient is below and the description is borrowed from “The Shepherd” periodical in England.

      Prayer of Saint Ephraim the Syrian

      This prayer, which is made with prostrations and bows, is used only during Great Lent and on the Wednesday and Friday of the week preceding the fast. The Prayer reads:

      “O Lord and Master of my life, a spirit of idleness, despondency, ambition, or vain talking give me not. (prostration)

      “But rather a spirit of chastity, humility, patience and love bestow upon me, Thy servant. (prostration)

      “Yea, O Lord and King, grant me to see mine own faults and not to judge my brother; for blessed are Thou unto the ages of ages. Amen.” (prostration)

      This is sometimes followed by everyone making twelve deep bows, repeating quietly on each: “O God, cleanse me a sinner”. Then either the whole prayer, or in some usages only the third verse, is repeated.

      Again and again this prayer reminds us of four base sins which lead us into many other sins, and counters them with four fundamental virtues, and so the prayer is itself a “prostration” — going down in acknowledgement of sinfulness and rising up through embracing virtues. Lastly it reminds us each time of that attribute so necessary for salvation: tending to ourselves.

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  16. Sentient says:

    I suspect that there’s little-to-nothing in this interview that would surprise Sundance, but judging by the comments, it seems to be blowing some people’s minds. All about Papadopolous and his interactions with Halpern & Misfud.

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  17. smurfette says:

    The only weapon in our arsenal is what the Bible teaches… is the Full Armour of God and the Sword of Truth.

    How the Notre-Dame fire and Paradise were unusual compared to normal fires caused by human error.

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  18. andyocoregon says:

    The Chinese government knows how to waste money, too.
    IMO, sending humans to Mars to live there for any length of time is stupid and risky.
    I suppose this makes a nice tourist facility, but that’s about it.

    https://futurism.com/the-byte/mars-simulation-base-china-open

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  19. nwtex says:

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  20. SwampRatTerrier says:

    FYI

    “Hydra-Like” Democratic Dark Money Network Exposed in New Report
    As usual, Democrats aren’t practicing what they preach.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/04/hydra-like-democratic-dark-money-network-exposed-in-new-report/

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  21. nwtex says:

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  22. Lucille says:


    The History and Origin of the German Shepherd Dog
    http://gsrelite.co.uk/the-history-origin-of-the-german-shepherd-dog/

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  23. Lucille says:

    American Alsatians….

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  24. Sepp says:

    Saint Geneviève of Paris (+ 512)

    Through the holy intercessions of Saint Geneviève, O Christ our God, have mercy on us and save us. Amen.

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  25. nikkichico7 says:

    Happy Cursday … brave dogs …. 🤨👍❤️‼️

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  26. Mandy says:

    “Monk Attacked At Gas Station Near Seattle

    The 72-year-old Orthodox Christian monk was pumping gas when another man walked up, asked about “Trump,” and threw a punch”

    It was Abbot Tryphon of All Merciful Savior Monastery, he also does a daily (or close to daily) five minute or so broadcast called, “The Morning Offering” that can be found at ancientfaith.com.

    This is the ____________that did it, they’re still looking for him.

    https://patch.com/img/cdn20/users/22906546/20190418/094625/styles/T800x600/public/seattle-monk-attack.png?width=705

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  27. auscitizenmom is visiting family so I am honored to post these prayers nightly.
    Please join me in prayer.

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:

    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.

    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.

    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.

    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.

    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  28. A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:

    Prayer to St. Michael

    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  29. andeclain says:

    Amen.

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  30. andeclain says:

    Apologies for the multiple “Amens”. Word Press was being funny and objecting to duplicate comments, even though they were to two different prayers/posts, then it decided to let me do it in triplicate! Still, it is a good season to be saying “Amen”.

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  31. wondering999 says:

    California friend sent me the following link — on Friday, Reddit will host some vets from UC-Davis and you can ask cat questions ahead of Caturday!
    Remember this is Friday, not Saturday (report back on Saturday if you participate 🙂

    https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/download-ask-vet-med-experts-anything-about-cat-behavior/

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  32. Mandy says:

    Bridegroom Troparion

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  33. Mandy says:

    Since tonight is Holy Thursday for the heterodox, I thought I would share this. From a comment at the youtube: “For anyone who just hears this for the first time, this is chanted in every Orthodox Church and Monastery in the World on Holy Thursday before Pascha (Easter). Orthodox Christians begin the next day the prior evening, so the crucifixion is commemorated Thursday evening.”

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