Tuesday April 16th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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202 Responses to Tuesday April 16th – Open Thread

  1. Dora says:

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      Did the church or church members protest the government takeover of their buildings, their places of worship? I suppose the basis for this was it was state funded in its original construction as church/state were one at the time? I just can not imagine that happening and the people passively accepting this action.

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      • budklatsch says:

        I do not know the financing in France, but in Germany the state pays the tithe to the churches taken from citizens that must pay the state as part of their annual tax payments.

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      • warrprin1 says:

        KMcC, I believe the government takeover of Notre Dame has its roots in the French Revolution, 1789 and onward for the next ten years, through the Reign of Terror. A deep anticlerical movement had developed and grown leading up to the Revolution, as a result of the politics between the Papacy and the French Crown. Most, or perhaps all, churches were taken over during that period.

        France had experienced a centuries long bizarre relationship between the Catholic Church and the French Monarchy. Charlemagne was crowned on Christmas Day in the year 800 AD, by the Pope, starting a long tradition of the Popes crowning the French Kings. The first Crusade to rescue the Holy Land was planned and executed by a French King and the Pope – Middle Ages.

        Following the French Revolution, the wide skepticism entertained by the French people toward the clergy, largely remained. I’m making an educated guess now, but it’s possible that other massive cathedrals in France are also owned “by the people”, i.e., the French government. Please don’t quote me on that one.

        It’s always about the politics, isn’t it. Power and Money.

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    • warrprin1 says:

      There is a “zero kilometers” pavement marker in Madrid, Spain as well, in the Puerta del Sol section of the city. It is the starting point for the measure of distances from the nation’s capitol to any point in the Spain.

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  2. duchess01 says:

    Notre Dame worker says fire was ‘deliberately set’…

    Posted by Kane on April 16, 2019 2:11 am

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/notre-dame-worker-says-fire-was-deliberately-set/

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  3. duchess01 says:

    City Walks: Paris, France – Notre Dame Cathedral Inside and Around
    – virtual treadmill walk

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  4. spoogels says:

    Assange helped crack kid porn ring – As a young man nearly 20 years ago, Julian Assange used his prodigious computer skills to help the Victorian police catch online pedophiles.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/wikileaks/legal-threats-as-assange-laid-bare/news-story/60875c11e1109011f247acb73729d1d9

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  5. DanDeplorable says:

    Tuesday … Matthew 26:14-16

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  6. highdezertgator says:

    Van Morrison – By His Grace

    From Hymns to The Silence – 1991
    You’ve got to try, for the kingdom
    You’ve got to try, for the kingdom
    On high, you’ve got to try,
    By His grace, by His grace
    You’ve got to live your religion
    Deep inside, when you try
    For the kingdom on high
    By His grace, by His grace
    Open your mind to the wisdom
    When you try for the kingdom, on high
    By His grace, by His grace
    Open your heart to the wisdom
    In your mind when you try
    For the kingdom on high
    By His grace, by His grace
    One day at a time, you got to try
    Open your eye, it will come
    By and by, when you try
    By His grace, by His grace
    By His grace, by His grace.
    Songwriter: Van Morrison

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  7. spoogels says:

    The Green Run

    The “Green Run” was a secret U.S. Government release of radioactive fission products on December 2–3, 1949, at the Hanford Site plutonium production facility, located in Eastern Washington. Radioisotopes released at that time were supposed to be detected by U.S. Air Force reconnaissance. Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to the U.S. Government have revealed some of the details of the experiment.[1] Sources cite 5,500 to 12,000 curies (200 to 440 TBq) of iodine-131 released,[1][2][3] and an even greater amount of xenon-133. The radiation was distributed over populated areas, and caused the cessation of intentional radioactive releases at Hanford until 1962 when more experiments commenced.[3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Run

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  8. Katherine McCoun says:

    The article shared at the bottom of my comment touches on some of what I was sharing yesterday regarding today’s sexualized youth and the narrowing of gender definitions that goes along with the expanding number of genders. (link to yesterday’s comment)
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/04/15/monday-april-15th-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comments

    A female liking sports, cars, camping or being a bookworm/nerd/geek v. a shopper/make up tutorial watching giggly girl has ZERO today with being attracted to males or females and ZERO to do with gender. One IS a female/male and one has his/her own bundle of personality traits, likes, dislikes, tastes, hobbies, etc., that do not determine one’s gender!

    This mom explains that, even worse than a “creative” gender claim, many teens are assuming they are transgender due to things such as hobbies, tastes, personality, etc. that deviate from a narrowly defined version of male/female as well as from misidentified homosexuality. Rather than being homosexual, they now think that they are transgender but “straight”.

    I feel so sorry for youth who even know about these things. They are too young to figure out and deal with such complex issues! I also feel sorry for young teens who have strong same sex friendships that they interpret as homosexual feelings (not saying all are misinterpreted but at least some are). We need examples of being able to have strong, close same sex relationships in which we even love the friends but are not sexually attracted to them or do not feel the need/obligation to society to interpret this love for close friends as homosexual. If a child didn’t know about homosexuality, how many would even wonder much less misinterpret their close childhood friendship bonds as homosexual?

    Sad to see children forced to deal with things that are complex to fully mature adults!

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/16/feminist-pro-gay-mother-trans-child-critiques-bans-conversion-therapy/

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  9. spoogels says:

    UGLY

    VIDEO: Antifa Stages Protest Outside Trump Adviser Stephen Miller’s Home, Cast ‘Curses’ Upon Him

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/video-antifa-stages-protest-outside-trump-adviser-stephen-millers-home-cast-curses-upon-him/

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    • duchess01 says:

      Their curse will come back to haunt them – come back on them – no worries – except for Miller and family – this stuff has to stop – ‘disturbing the peace’ – LOCK THEM UP!

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    • avman1339 says:

      As far as I’m concerned, Stephen Miller is THE definitive advisory source that President Trump should heed for any areas that Miller cares to lend advice on. The invasion certainly, and any other “sensitive” topic, Stephen Miller is a no BS take no prisoners kinda guy!

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    • kyblue says:

      I know we all find it ironic the thugs calling themselves antifacists are indeed the facists.. And the dem party supports them. Tim Kaine’s son Is one of them. It’s mind boggling. BLM is as bad.

      Will any of our public servants ever call out this foolishness?

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  10. duchess01 says:

    TUESDAY, APRIL 16, 2019
    You Have Existence but Do You Have ETERNAL Life?

    https://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2009/01/you-have-existence-do-you-have-life.html

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  11. The ND spire that fell to flames yesterday was at the crossing of the Transept and Nave………….

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  12. Dora says:

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  13. duchess01 says:

    European Churches: Vandalized, Defecated On, and Torched “Every Day”

    April 16, 2019
    by Raymond Ibrahim, The Gatestone Institute

    https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/04/european-churches-vandalized-defecated-on-and-torched-every-day/

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    • kyblue says:

      So why isn’t the outcry being broadcast far & wide, duchess? Muslims are a protected class by globalists so murder & mayhem are shushed up. Everyone should be outraged. Everyone.

      I can’t even wrap my mind around why any Sane society would protect Muslim criminals.
      Wonder if the Notre Dame fire will be hushed up as well?

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      • duchess01 says:

        Because it is not in ‘their’ best interest, blue – where is the pope’s statement – why hasn’t anyone spoken out in defense of Christians worldwide who are being murdered by these miscreants – someone from CNN interviewed a guy from France – would not let him talk – cut him off – because he mentioned the fire may not have been an ‘accident’ – I cannot post the video where this exchange took place – because it has an outlawed ‘letter’ in its title – suffice to say – it is possible this fire was intentional – as much as other events were intentional – but, dare to even think it – and you will be blackballed for life.

        Now, PT is being disparaged because of his video connection to the M-in-MN – he is trying to defend America from people who coddle and support our enemies…did you catch what he said yesterday – sorry about the illegals in MN – we are going to try to do something about that – whatever did he mean? /s

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        • kyblue says:

          The world is upside down, duchess.

          Pelosi’s tiny mind games are going to come back to bite her, I hope. More death threats to Omar? Dems have called open season on conservatives & who is calling Maxine Waters out?

          As to muslims, the EU doesn’t want Europe to know its ‘compassion’ for muslim refugees has failed. The EU elites, along with the UN ought to be taken out & publicly flogged.
          All quiet on the western front. The media just sucks 🧐

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          • duchess01 says:

            Did you leave anything out of this rant, blue? We were born into this crazy world – but, we had nothing to do with making it crazy – our job is to navigate through the muck and find the truth – isn’t that why you are here in the Treehouse? The Last Refuge away from the ‘controlled narrative’ and truth police – after having traversed the political landscape here, there, and everywhere – where else could we go?

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            • kyblue says:

              I think I covered it all. Sorry for the rant. We were born into a crazy world, but, oh boy, we are living a great moment in history. We are witnessing an unsuccessful coup first hand, we are seeing An absolutely amazing man changing the world. Not just America.
              Despite all the negative press, the world is watching Our President Trump fight and are inspired.
              And yes, the treehouse is awesome. I’m glad I stumbled here 🤗

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  14. duchess01 says:

    San Francisco, Los Angeles And Seattle: 3 Formerly Beautiful West Coast Cities Have Literally Been Transformed Into Hellholes

    April 16, 2019
    by Michael Snyder, The Economic Collapse Blog

    https://www.sgtreport.com/2019/04/san-francisco-los-angeles-and-seattle-3-formerly-beautiful-west-coast-cities-have-literally-been-transformed-into-hellholes/

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    • andyocoregon says:

      You can add Portland, Oregon onto that sordid list.
      All liberal-run cities. All going to decay.

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      • duchess01 says:

        I am sure the author could have written this article from a list that is a mile long, andy – those 3 were chosen to make a point – and maybe, because they are well-known – most people do not know about Portland – I did not…

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    • smiley2 says:

      informative article…

      such as….

      “…lack of sophisticated fire-protection systems left fire-fighters with devastatingly few options once the flames got out of control.”

      mind-boggling (imo) that there was such a lack of fire-protection systems in such an historical & priceless structure as this iconic Cathedral…with all those ancient oak beams in the ceiling…literally a forest of wood in there…not to mention all the scaffolding encircling the site for all the restoration…and lives at stake…nearby buildings in very close proximity…the sheer size and height of the Cathedral…

      ?

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  15. Dora says:

    NOTRE-DAME TREASURES, RELICS SAVED AFTER FIREFIGHTER-PRIEST LED HUMAN CHAIN INSIDE BURNING CATHEDRAL

    The chaplain to the Parisian fire brigade has been hailed as a hero after it was revealed he led efforts to save the priceless holy relics and art stored inside Notre-Dame Cathedral.

    The story of Father Jean-Marc Fournier was reported by Christian journalist of French Catholic Television station KTOTV, who revealed the chaplain went into the burning cathedral to retrieve relics and art before they could be damaged by fire and falling debris. Reports state the priest formed a human chain to carry the items away from danger.

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/notre-dame-treasures-relics-saved-after-firefighter-priest-led-human-chain

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  16. Dora says:

    Some of you might have been watching when Bill Donohue was cut off by Cavuto yesterday. I was and I was astonished. He actually hung up on him!

    ====

    IS FOX NEWS LOSING ITS NERVE?
    Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments about an incident on Fox News yesterday:
    https://www.catholicleague.org/is-fox-news-losing-its-nerve/

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    • smiley2 says:

      I saw it…it was quite abrupt, to say the least…Cavuto actually seemed panicked by Donohue’s (legitimate) remarks…. rattled is a better word for his reaction.

      or just plain freaked out .

      FOX News is like The Fear Factor most of the time.

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    • warrprin1 says:

      “Shep” did the same thing to a French official whom he was interviewing by phone from Paris yesterday afternoon, while the cathedral was still ablaze. Shep’s “not on my watch” disrespectful remarks to the French Official was a display of maximum intolerance. No results of 1st Amendment Rights will be permitted broadcast time any longer on FoxNews.

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    • mopar2016 says:

      I think that Fox warned their talking heads about speculating.

      Sheppard Smith stopped a French official on the phone when the official suggested that it was arson. Shep told him the interview was over and said “not on my watch”.
      Whatever that meant.

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  17. smiley2 says:

    NOTRE DAME RENOVATION PROJECT : 5 FAST FACTS

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/notre-dame-renovation/

    April 15, 2019

    seems there was a slight conflict involved.

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  18. Blue Wildflower says:

    I have a question for the tree house. When there is a horrible event, why does Fox News, well, all main stream media, politicians, etc go to great ends to cover up anything pertaining to the Muslim community world wide but they celebrate in the streets, on Facebook, anywhere they have a voice? I had not seen one interview with a French Muslim, yet they are all over the city. They want to be heard, put them on tv.

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    • FelineFine says:

      Very good question. However, I think most of us know the answer.

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      • Blue Wildflower says:

        I don’t know the answer. Are they a protected group? Why? The only one that really gets to say what she thinks is Omar and her buddy. President Trump is the only one that will answer back. Why would American politians and media cover for people that want to destroy this country? Do they think they will benefit, are they benefiting now?

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  19. smiley2 says:

    Victor Hugo ~ Les Miserables

    man making a quick drawing of The Notre Dame Cathedral after the fire.

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  20. boomerbeth says:

    FLASHBACK: 1998
    “If I had the World Trade Center, I’d add a few more stories.”
    @4min

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  21. Dora says:

    ‘Have a nice day’: ISIS fanatics revel in Notre Dame’s destruction days before Easter as they describe the inferno as ‘retribution and punishment’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6927101/Have-nice-day-ISIS-fanatics-revel-Notre-Dames-destruction-describing-punishment.html

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    • smiley2 says:

      and those assholes can get away with that ??

      where’s the outrage ?!

      where are the French authorities ?

      oh…yeah…right…let’s-not-jump-to-judgment….let’s not hate

      I don’t usually go for this sort of thing.. but all I have to say right now is..

      SPIT

      I wish somebody would make them get on their wretched knees and lick the filthy pavement.

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  22. Darren says:

    I think Tracy Beanz stumbled in to something here. My gut tells me this is big….

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    • Can someone explain to me what this all means? And why was HIS sentence commuted?

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    • czarowniczy says:

      There’s no doubt that Hillary’s email systems were hacked, can you think of a more strategically inviting target? She’s known to cut corners and a big unasked/unanswered question is ‘was her campaign compromised at top levels by foreign operative(s) who may have bought themselves in?

      You have Russia, China and North Korea who school-train hackers and have massive state operations designed to attack foreign IT sites. One agency I worked for in the 90s received 1400 hacker hits on one weekend. These agencies also maintain extensive and elaborate dossiers on US political figures, just as we do theirs. You can’t tell me Hillary didn’t know this and she went ahead and cut those security corners anyway. Gimme a break.

      I’m betting that certain agencies, especially at Cabinet level, spent weeks if not months doing damage control over what they feared might have been compromised from things she had in her systems after she left government service, I know they sweated what she bobbled while she was in government service. I’m surprised anyone in the government trusts her to carry their trash to the curb, but then we have more than a few quislings getting a check.

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  23. jx says:

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  24. TwoLaine says:

    If you haven’t seen this, you must!

    This is what is happening in FUGITIVE, CRIMINAL CITIES all over the USA. It is sickening.

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    • TwoLaine says:

      It even has it’s own fb page.
      https: //www. facebook. com /SeattleLooksLikeShit

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    • czarowniczy says:

      Hey, ain’t gonna happen in NOLA, we’re not a sanctuary city. All those Latinos in the area are just tourists waiting for the next festival downtown.,

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    • millwright says:

      TL: Only one way to go – BOOT CAMP ! Drag these wretches out of their morass and stuff them into a regimented situation where their every action is controlled . Wheree’s there no ” FEEL GOOD ” BS ! Perhaps something can be done for the survivors . The alternative is Purgatory – a vast inescapable compound where they’re free to pursue their own demons – with basic sustenance and clothing remotely provided at distributed stations. IOW not much of a change in life style for most . Just one not threatening those creating the wealth it takes to support them .

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  25. duchess01 says:

    What happened to the treasures of Notre-Dame during the blaze?

    https://www.thelocal.fr/20190416/what-happened-to-the-treasures-of-notre-dame-during-the-blaze

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  26. Mandy says:

    Has the pope made a statement yet?

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  27. Dora says:

    Sad but true.

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  28. czarowniczy says:

    Some of y’all remember that I posted a few weeks back that the city of New Orleans no longer allows police officers to pursue criminals without an involved process to get permission from a supervisor on duty. Just about every Usual Suspect know knows that if they haven’t committed a violent crime in the officer’s presence or there’s a BOLO out on them all they have to do is speed up and disappear.

    Well, over the weekend two women, probably but not stated as being tipsy, got into a fight on the crowded street during the Fest. Mounted NOPD and the 8th District (French Quarter division of NOPD) commander responded to it. The mounted police corralled and separated the fighters from the crowd while the Commander and some officers went to separate the women. One woman wanted to get back in that fight and when she was restrained by the Commander she fought him. He took her to the ground with a restrained leg throw, she got up and went after him again, hitting him in the face and shoulder with her purse so he takes her to the ground, same way, again and she continues to fight. Other officer intervene and they cuff and arrest her. She’s charged with disorderly conduct, resisting and officer and assaulting an officer.

    It seems that Fest-goers in the crowd started whining about the supervisor using ‘excessive force’ in effecting the arrest. The videos taken show the fight but the Independent Police Monitor the city pols installed is conducting an investigation as is damn near any other LEA-bashing group that can get a finger in. Right now a longtime NOPD officer, just picked by the same pols who’re not beyond throwing him under the bus if it suits their needs, has his career on the line for doing his job. And the city pols wonder why they have a problem keeping cops on the job.

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  29. Mandy says:

    From the Pope’s message to the Archbishop of Paris:

    ““I associate myself with your sadness, as well as that of the faithful of your diocese, the inhabitants of Paris and all the French,” Francis said in a message to the archbishop of Paris, Michel Aupetit.

    “This disaster seriously damaged a historic building. But I realize that it has also affected a national symbol dear to the hearts of Parisians and French in the diversity of their convictions,” he said.”

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  30. Mandy says:

    “Should It Matter To Christians When Churches Burn?”

    “The world watched in disbelief as the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris burned. But why should it matter? Fr. Andrew Damick has an answer.”

    [audio src="https://media.ancientfaith.com/commentaries/afc_2019-04-16.mp3" /]

    (link will begin playing when you click it – commentary is 8 minutes long)

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  31. Lucille says:

    Democrats Are Using Ilhan Omar As An Excuse To Chill Speech
    As a public figure with strong opinions, Omar deserves no special immunity from criticism or debate.
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/16/democrats-using-ilhan-omar-excuse-chill-speech/

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    • czarowniczy says:

      She’s a tool, when she’s no longer handy or proves to be too big of a liability her handlers will find some other useful idiot to take her seat.

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  32. auscitizenmom is visiting family so I am honored to post these prayers nightly.
    Please join me in prayer.

    lilbirdee12’s prayer:
    Our Heavenly Father, Your children come to you tonight to ask for healing and peace throughout our country so that we may return to being One Nation Under God. Guide us to be leaders in Your Kingdom, spreading Your Love and Salvation to all. Forgive us our sins and deliver us from evil.
    Lord, we ask for a blanket of protection over all our troops and law enforcement who serve to defend and protect us. Bless our representatives with the strength and wisdom they need to achieve the path You have chosen for us.
    Please place Your Guardian Angels of Protection around Donald Trump and Mike Pence and their families as they seek to lead America back to You.
    Grant us patience, Lord, as the evil ones try to anger us and cause us to fall.
    Spread blessings over Israel and Netanyahu.
    We humbly ask that You please comfort those who are grieving and in pain.
    Thank you Father, for Your Love and the gift of Life.
    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  33. A prayer for Justice Kavanaugh and Col. Flynn:
    Prayer to St. Michael
    St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle;
    be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
    May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
    and do you, O prince of the heavenly host,
    by the power of God,
    thrust into hell Satan and the other evil spirits
    who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.
    In Jesus name, we pray. Amen.

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  34. Lucille says:

    9 Apocalyptic Lies Fed To Americans About The Republican Tax Bill
    April 15, 2019 By Madeline Osburn
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/15/9-apocalyptic-lies-fed-to-americans-about-the-republican-tax-bill/

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  35. Troublemaker10 says:

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