Monday April 15th – Open Thread

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. THY WILL BE DONE, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but DELIVER US FROM EVIL.

For Thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory, forever and ever. Amen †

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    • unconqueredone says:

      Not a happy tax day here. Some of us who are lower-middle class income are now even lower. The changes did not favor certain of the self-employed. Best I can figure I lost about $8k over the previous tax code. I ought to have known that anything Paul Ryan and the GOPe liked wouldn’t be good.

      Before anyone suggests I’m a troll, look at my historicly conservative posts. It’s just clear that with 75k pages of tax code the government is picking the winners and losers. This is one reason I want income tax replaced with a national sales tax.


  1. Stillwater says:

    Grazing cows rush to listen to accordion music

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  2. nwtex says:

    In a statement, the superintendent said that two students were asked to change items of clothing.

    “This incident has been under investigation since Tuesday morning and is currently still under investigation,” the superintendent said. “We will take steps to remedy this situation for all parties involved and ensure that this type of situation never happens again in any Epping school.”

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      Funny – I weighed myself this morning for the first time in several weeks and eating a little differently. Felt like I had lost some weight. Nope! Literally, 1 lb difference which could be explained 100 different ways without actually having lost weight! Want that dog to come get my scales! 🙂 Felt better so won’t change diet but still disappointing weigh in!

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    • nikkichico7 says:

      Good dog‼️ Good dog‼️ 🤨👍❤️‼️

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  3. Katherine McCoun says:

    Conversation continued from the POTUS thread re children in public schools, parental rights and the sexualization of our nations children at the hand of leftists in pop media culture and esp. in our public schools:

    The children of today are expected to be sexually aware, if not sexually active, way too young. Many teens in the past were late bloomers – didn’t become sexually aware until 14, 15, 16 or even 17. Some aren’t avidly interested in the opposite sex at 11, 12, 13 or 14 and therefore are confused that they must be something else, any one of the seemingly endless options. If given time to develop naturally, they would mature into their rightful “orientation”. They are confused and then they need their own, different label if they are not “typical” or “normal”/average in the time they become aware of the opposite sex. Sad!

    I also notice that today’s preteens and teens are presented with a Very narrow view of what is a man and what is a woman. If they deviate a little then they can not be labeled a man or a woman/male female under this current, leftist system. They must find some other label, some other group. They are othered for being slightly different than average or typical.

    Example: we have taught our son that the meaning of being a man is not tied up in being tall, muscular, athletic or any physical traits. Nor is the being a man tied up in personality types or personal tastes as a man could be outgoing or bookish, athletic, into sports, bookish, artistic, computer geek (like his dad!), businessman, etc. We wanted to make sure he was not confused that just because he didn’t fit one stereotype or another was absolutely no reason to question his maleness or his manhood.

    We have taught him that being a man is about maturity in one’s a man’s responsibilities to & relationships with God, Family (Wife, Children, parents, extended family), community (including church, friends, town, state & country). Fulfilling those responsibilities includes maturity to one’s spiritual, mental, emotional and physical health, a will guided by God and mental wisdom as well as providing through a career/business & service to said groups.

    That is it! Big order but Nothing to do with one’s athleticism or one’s hobbies or one’s taste in clothes, etc. When teens deviate from stere types (a male who is artsy or a female who loves to backpack or play sports) that doesn’t mean they need a different label! They are still male/female as God made them! Personality, giftings and taste are not a reason to question maleness/femaleness.

    I see some teens who post on you tube or twitter saying that they don’t feel female on days when they are wearing sweats and lounging or when they are make-up-less and hiking. This is not female/male and does not require one to be gender fluid! Just different days, different hobbies, different moods –>> not a different “identity” or “gender”! Let teens know that they are the sex/gender they are but that we are all complex human beings with varied interests, moods, phases, etc. These do not require particular genders. Males and females are made in endless variety and are Still males and females!

    This is what I mean by the narrowing of definitions of the two genders in the last 50-100 yrs has lead to the need for more genders…but not really. Just broaden the definitions to include all personalities, giftings and tastes and we are back to 2 genders.

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  4. nwtex says:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody)
    ‏ @AOCpress
    Apr 7

    If socialism doesn’t work then explain to me how Bernie Sanders has become a millionaire being a socialist.

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  5. andyocoregon says:

    Colorado sheriff doesn’t like the new Red Flag Law and won’t enforce it. Good!
    Washington and Oregon have those horrid laws on the books now too.

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  6. nwtex says:

    Awesome shot.

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  7. highdezertgator says:

    Christ The King
    (Mathew 25: 31-46)

    Our King is calling from the hungry furrows
    Whilst we are cruising through the aisles of plenty,
    Our hoardings screen us from the man of sorrows,
    Our soundtracks drown his murmur: ‘I am thirsty’.
    He stands in line to sign in as a stranger
    And seek a welcome from the world he made,
    We see him only as a threat, a danger,
    He asks for clothes, we strip-search him instead.
    And if he should fall sick then we take care
    That he does not infect our private health,
    We lock him in the prisons of our fear
    Lest he unlock the prison of our wealth.
    But still on Sunday we shall stand and sing
    The praises of our hidden Lord and King.
    Malcolm Guite

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  8. andyocoregon says:

    Don’t allow your little kids to have access to your electric clippers or this could happen to you….


  9. andyocoregon says:

    AOC selfie

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  10. ByrdDeplorable says:

    Has anyone else seen that Norte Dame Cathredral is on fire!

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  11. Dora says:

    We know who did this. May they burn in HELL!


    ‘Terrible’ fire engulfs 850-year-old Notre Dame cathedral in Paris as flames erupt from the roof and massive plume of smoke sweeps across the city

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  12. duchess01 says:

    MONDAY, APRIL 15, 2019
    The True Tyranny of America in Light of Tax Day and the American Tea Party


  13. smiley2 says:

    BREAKING…Notre Dame Fire, Paris…Streaming LIVE…



  14. Dora says:

    A spokesperson said the fire was a result of renovations, not terrorism.


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  15. wtd says: France: Muslim girl “in search of love” plotted to blow up car packed with gas canisters near Notre Dame cathedral
    It would be “Islamophobic” not to admire Ines Madani’s wild romantic heart. After all, what says “love” more than blood spattered everywhere and broken bodies writhing in pain?

    FWIW, the cathedral is located in the 4th Arrondissement of Paris also known as Hôtel-de-Ville – which is not listed on Dr. Daniel Pipes 2006 link to the long list of no-go zones in Paris aka Atlas des Zones urbaines sensibles (Zus)

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  16. smiley2 says:

    THE SPIRAL COLLAPSES …footage, Notre Dame Cathedral, Paris..


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  17. smiley2 says:

    Social Media and Twitter “stunned” and “in shock” and “crushed” as Notre Dame Cathedral burns..

    April 15, 2019

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  18. Dora says:

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  19. andyocoregon says:

    I heard this began as a fairly small fire that soon spread. What a shame they didn’t have some industrial size fire extinguishers close at hand to squelch the fire before it could get out of control.

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  20. Dora says:

    The most precious treasure, the Crown of Thorns, is one of three holy artifacts housed in Notre Dame, along with the True Cross and one of the Holy Nails from the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

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    • smiley2 says:

      overwhelming and mournful losses and damage…symbolically, religiously and historically…architecturally and artistically, too.

      a shocking shocking trauma…irreplaceable ancient relics…a beloved site…an irreplaceable site.

      “the atmosphere is choked.”


      heard on Fox that many…or all ? ..of the ancient copper statues had been removed for renovation prior to this tragedy, and out of the fire’s path…if true, that’s a good thing.

      the entire center of the Cathedral is engulfed in fire..reducing to rubble.

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      • smiley2 says:

        sorry…don’t mean to be dramatic…but I really can not process this horrible event…the destruction of it all.

        the sight of it.

        I can only imagine the sorrow felt by Catholics right now.


        • Dora says:

          You are not dramatic smiley. I’ve been crying since the fire came on the news and I can’t stop.

          I keep remembering back to April, 2015 when I walked through that cathedral dazed by its beauty. Beauty that is gone now. Destroyed!

          I am so upset that I hardly know what to do.

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          • smiley2 says:

            the awesome Cathedral had survived so much, historically, down thru the ages…only to be so utterly destroyed by this.

            the weird response (fire-fighting) to this is very disturbing, imo….and odd.


            • covfefe999 says:

              It’s so horrible, in many ways, I think it’s going to take days to comprehend and fully accept. Even without loss of life I actually put this on the same level as 9/11.

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          • Mandy says:

            Dora, I am not Roman Catholic but my heart is breaking for you and all the Roman Catholics today. I can feel your anguish through your posts…and I am praying…


        • Bugsdaddy says:

          Not just Catholics smiley….all Christians should be feeling sorrow…such beauty destroyed.

          Like Dora, I shudder to think I can never again see the beautiful rose window again….

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  21. covfefe999 says:

    Ugh I’m feeling sick about the Notre Dame fire, in addition to the typical reasons I’m assuming the great pipe organ there is a total loss. 😦 😦 😦 😦 😦

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    • andyocoregon says:

      And I heard the total restoration of that pipe organ was recently just completed. All that work and expense for nothing now.


    • covfefe999 says:

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    • covfefe999 says:

      I cannot find a live performance video of this work, this is from the boxed set of Messiaen’s organ works performed at Notre Dame by Olivier Latry, the main organist at the cathedral. I love this piece so much, it’s the 2nd movement of a four-movement suite. It’s not typical bombastic organ music. The ending is particularly divine, very ethereal.


  22. andyocoregon says:

    Shepard Smith on Fox News has been doing his best to shut down any discussion of possible terrorism. He cut off a French official he had on the phone earlier who simply broached the subject and mentioned there have been weekly vandalism attacks on Catholic churches all over France lately.
    So the fire began in a construction area of the building surrounded by scaffolding, but who’s to say some Muslim construction worker with evil plans didn’t start the fire intentionally? Even if it is found to be terrorism, don’t expect the French government to admit it.
    At this point, all we know is something started that fire and it seems since it took almost two hours before water was poured on it, the fire safety procedures were woefully lacking, especially in that very old wooden structure encased in stone.

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  23. Q&A says:

    “Catholic churches in France are being targeted with arson attacks, vandalism, desecration of holy statues, and the destruction of the Eucharist. The attacks have been happening since the start of the year. ”

    Catholic Churches Are Being Desecrated Across France—and Officials Don’t Know Why

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    • wtd says:

      Twelve French Churches Attacked, Vandalized in One Week”>Breitbart:
      A dozen Catholic churches have been desecrated across France over the period of one week in an egregious case of anti-Christian vandalism.
      The recent spate of church profanations has puzzled both police and ecclesiastical leaders, who have mostly remained silent as the violations have spread up and down France.

      Last Sunday, marauders set fire to the church of Saint-Sulpice — one of Paris’ largest and most important churches — shortly after the twelve-o’clock Mass.
      Police have concluded that the fire was the result of arson and are now looking for possible suspects. The restoration of the church from the damage caused by the fire will reportedly cost several hundred million euros.

      In Nimes (department of the Gard), near the border with Spain, the church of Notre-Dame des Enfants was desecrated in a particularly odious way, with vandals painting a cross with human excrement, looting the main altar and the tabernacle, and stealing the consecrated hosts, which were discovered later among piles of garbage.

      Likewise, the church of Notre-Dame in Dijon, in the east of the country, suffered the sacking of the high altar and the hosts were also taken from the tabernacle, scattered on the ground, and trampled.

      In Lavaur, in the southern department of the Tarn, the village church was assaulted by young men, who twisted one arm of a representation of the crucified Christ to make it appear that he was making an obscene gesture.

      In the peripheries of Paris, in the department of Yvelines, several churches have suffered profanations of varying importance, in Maisons-Laffitte and in Houilles.

      Although commentators have been reluctant to attach a particular religious or cultural origin to the profanations, they all share an evident anti-Christian character.

      In recent months, anti-Semitic gangs have desecrated Jewish cemeteries, signing their actions with swastikas. In the case of the desecration of Catholic churches, the vandalism has spoken for itself: ridicule of the figure of Christ on the cross and desecration of major altars.

      The Catholic hierarchy has kept silent about the episodes, limited themselves to highlighting that anti-Christian threat and expressing hope that politicians and police will get to the bottom of the crimes.

      Reports indicate that 80 percent of the desecration of places of worship in France concerns Christian churches and in the year 2018 this meant the profanation of an average of two Christian churches per day in France, even though these actions rarely make the headlines.

      In 2018, the Ministry of the Interior recorded 541 anti-Semitic acts, 100 anti-Muslim acts, and 1063 anti-Christian acts.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Yeah, as I read the descriptions of the desecrations, I see why officials are “puzzled”./s

      Its cause the officials need plexiglass windows, surgically installed in their belly’s, so at least they can see where they are walking!

      “Shocked, simply SHOCKED that their is gambling”

      That the results of unchecked, mass migration from Muslim majority countries into Europe would have these results was TOO predictable to have been an accident.

      And that Hillary was neck deep in “Operation Arab Spring” is no coincidence, either.

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  24. Dora says:

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  25. andyocoregon says:

    Wow, the interior of the cathedral was nicknamed “The Forest” as it took 52 acres of trees to build it.


    • smiley2 says:

      here are some interesting comments (Twitter) about the fire-fighting aspects of this…

      Liked by 1 person

  26. Sepp says:

    Through the holy intercessions of Saint Geneviève, O Christ our God, have mercy on us and save us. Amen.

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  27. Mandy says:

    Congolese thought to have EBOLA now being held at the Southern border.

    They’ve managed to catch 20 so far…..

    Breitbart has a story, I’m reading threads elsewhere and will update here if I see anything new.

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  28. Herbert Kroll says:

    The relics and treasures of the Notre Dame are safe, were nott effected by the fire, Le Figaro says.

    Liked by 3 people

  29. andyocoregon says:

    History of Notre Dame Cathedral


    • smiley2 says:

      even a Nazi General defied Hitler (WW2) and refused to destroy the great Notre Dame Cathedral.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Mandy says:

        Yet interestingly, the website “The Jewish Worker” has been celebrating the burning of the Cathedral today. Of course, they removed the vile tweet, but it’s screen capped and shared all over gab.


  30. Dora says:

    Sigh of Relief.

    Liked by 1 person

  31. smiley2 says:


    listening/watching Fox News…every single person who comes on and even mentions anything Muslim regarding the Notre Dame fire is immediately cut-off and gone… !

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  32. Dora says:

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  33. andyocoregon says:

    Now they’re worrying about losing the Notre Dame bell towers. That would really be horrendous.


  34. Dora says:


    • smiley2 says:


      looking at that makes my skin crawl and feel cold as ice.

      this is one diabolical event…even without all the FACTS yet, this was no “accident”.


      I can’t get over it.

      and I’m not French or Catholic.

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  35. Mandy says:

    Hubby just showed me pictures of Muslims CELEBRATING in the streets with the burning cathedral in the background.

    Liked by 1 person

    • ByrdDeplorable says:

      Mandy: Could you tell me where he saw that? I’d like to share with a few.
      Seeing a church burn breaks my heart. And, one that has stood for over 800 years is horrible. And, this one, especially. Surely, Our Lord hears the cries of our hearts to save us from the devil and his minions. I truly feel like we’re living in Sodom and Gomorrah.


    • nwtex says:

      I don’t see anyone “celebrating”
      imo a split second in time image isn’t enough for me to condemn…..not that I would condemn anyone anyway (not my thing).
      These 2 guys are leaving the area and are quite far from the site…. with backs to the fire. For all I know the one guy could be smiling at anything at all….perhaps he about slipped as he was lifting the caution tape etc. But that’s just me. I’m not suggesting you shouldn’t draw the conclusion you did. But felt like I needed to put my two cents in.


  36. Lucille says:

    What the Star Wars cry guy tells us about society
    Published by Paul Joseph Watson on Apr 15, 2019
    Paul says: Check out


  37. Blue Ridge Mts. Va says:

    Do any of you remember the story I posted last year about this time concerning a tornado that hit parts of Virginia? And Leecy Fink whose Elon Va., house was hit by a tornado?

    Elon Tornado – One Year Later

    ELON, Va. (WDBJ7)– Standing on a cliff overlooking Nottaway Drive, it is clear that a sense of normalcy has returned to the neighborhood below.

    Two young girls ride their bikes up and down the long stretch of road, giggling while they loop in and out of driveways. It’s a sight that not many would have imagined one year prior.

    “It looked like someone was painting black on our windows,” said Millie Fink, who attends Elon Elementary School. “I couldn’t see them.”

    The Fink family home was one of 46 severely damaged by an EF-3 tornado in April exactly one year ago, Monday.

    The tornado damaged 190 structures; 24 were determined to be restricted use and 22 of them were classified as a total loss. The cost of damages reached over $6 million.

    Families lives were changed in an instant and recovery is ongoing. Construction equipment has been in the neighborhood everyday for the last year. Some families are moved back in, while others don’t have walls yet.

    The Finks were one of the first families to move back to the neighborhood.

    “I would want you to know that we’re all safe,” said Millie.

    “That my family protects me,” said Eliza Fink, Millie’s sister.

    The two elementary school students talked about what they have learned and gained in the last year. Eliza was most excited about her new scooter, Millie is a big fan of the new house. Both girls were thrilled that they have a new neighbor post-tornado who is their age.

    “If it was going to happen to someone it’s okay that it happened to us… I mean we’re fine,” said Leecy Fink, Millie and Eliza’s mother.

    Through out the neighborhood, it’s clear that recovery has no timeline.

    “There are no words to describe what I felt the first time I drove through here after the storm,” said Debbie Habel with the Amherst Disaster Recovery Group. “I cried the whole time, but to sit here today and see the work we accomplished. How far it’s come- it’s just amazing.”

    The Amherst Disaster Recovery Group formed in the days following the tornado. With the help of multiple agencies, hundreds of volunteers and millions of dollars in donations, they report that just five homes are still being reconstructed.

    The ADRG credits the Virginia Department of Emergency Management for assisting the county in recovery.

    According to the ADRG, Gleaning for the World, The Salvation Army, Amherst Chamber of Commerce, Amherst County Habitat for Humanity, the United Way and God’s Pit Crew helped in recovery efforts.

    “It’s a somber day to remember something so tragic, but it’s also an exciting day to say so much has been accomplished,” said David Garrison, Chair of the ADRG.

    Amidst all of the numbers, though, 30 families, 10 caseworkers, 46 homes, 500 volunteers, one number still sticks out. Zero lives taken.

    “Thank you God for saving my family, thank you God for saving my neighbors. When you thank god for that you kind of just have to forget about the other stuff,” said Fink. “You might lose a picture, but you’ve got the kids.”–508610171.html


  38. andyocoregon says:

    I tried watching the Bernie Sanders Town Hall on Fox News today and after about 20 minutes of listening to him shout misleading and diversionary non-answers to direct questions I gave up. Then I saw this video and realized I had made the right decision.


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