December 13th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration day #693

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1,245 Responses to December 13th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration day #693

  1. Deplorable_Infidel says:

    An image of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) putting on sunglasses as she leaves an exploding White House was projected onto the front of a federal building in San Francisco on Wednesday night.

    The image was projected after she had a contentious meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office on Tuesday along with Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.).

    https://dennismichaellynch.com/report-image-of-pelosi-leaving-an-exploding-white-house-projected-onto-states-federal-building/

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  2. bflyjesusgrl says:

    Just happened upon CSPAN1, caught tail end of Mark Meadows questioning WB’s Lawrence Doyle and John Moynihan. Sounds like Doyle tried to give Huber documents in April, May, and finally in October did Huber call back, right before Congressional hearing. They’re financial investigators and have given info to several US Attorneys, USPS, IRS, but NOT Congress, which ticked off Meadows. No one has been willing to open case on Clintons. Doyle says anywhere from $400million to $2.5billion might be subject to taxation, money was improperly used by Clinton Foundation.

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    • youme says:

      Sadly, no one is home when it comes to the Clinton Foundation

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      • paulraven1 says:

        There is no plan to trust. Only a total vacuum, a black hole of weakness and corruption. Why can’t we import the same prosecutorial mindset of the NY attorney general’s office? How is that only they know how to fight? I sense a lot of people reaching point of fatigue and disgust.

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      • Free Speech says:

        Okay, I may get kicked off of here, but so be it. This used to be a place where you’d get called a concern troll if you doubted POTUS. It has become a concern troll habitat. Sometimes people get so caught up in trying to disparage the letter-that-shall-not-be-named, they don’t consider the possible POSITIVE logical explanations. What would be the point in Huber doing anything in Feb, Apr or Oct if we didn’t get Kavanaugh in or lost the Senate? The Letter has a point.

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        • mimbler says:

          How about the point of Huber doing his job?

          And what does the SC or the Senate have to do with DOJ investigating the Clinton Foundation?

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      Meadows was acting strangely. Too political. Swampy, even.

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      • bflyjesusgrl says:

        I think he was pissed…at Huber, at being stonewalled, at not getting the info from the WB’s. Moynihan flat out said they didn’t give info to Congress because they couldn’t do anything to Clinton’s. In other words Congress is Powerless.

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  3. Deep state will not stop! They don’t want him re elected in 2020!

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      It won’t end until PT gets a wingman that supports him in at the DOJ as AG

      But he could go on the offensive……

      1) Order an audit of NSA database for past 10 years to see who & how many Americans were surveilled.

      2) Tell acting AG Whittaker to have a sit down with the two Clinton Foundation whistleblowers and also ask him to personally review their 6k Page report and be prepared to brief PT within 72 hours.

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      • marko says:

        agreed. I don’t know what he is waiting for. POTUS can order a SC appointed directly himself thoughit would be better from the AG. I think the Flynn ruling by the mueller can be a game changer. If the judge rules that mueller has abused Flynn’s rights I would fire mueller immediately. He isnt going to end this investigation.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      I just read the WSJ story and it appears that Manafort, Gates and Cohen are the ones in the crosshairs.

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      • The donors gave in total 107 millions and now they are investigation if pay for play was involved. They should be investigating clinton foundation!

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        • Sandra-VA says:

          It looks like a Cohen related donor tried to use a donation to get a huge loan from the Energy Dept… which he has not received, so whatever he paid didn’t buy him anything.

          Then there is the case of a Washington DC Consultant who paid for a foreign oligarch to attend…

          “The investigation partly arises out of materials seized in the federal probe of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s business dealings, according to people familiar with the matter.

          In April raids of Mr. Cohen’s home, office and hotel room, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents obtained a recorded conversation between Mr. Cohen and Stephanie Winston Wolkoff, a former adviser to Melania Trump, who worked on the inaugural events. In the recording, Ms. Wolkoff expressed concern about how the inaugural committee was spending money, according to a person familiar with the Cohen investigation.

          The Wall Street Journal couldn’t determine when the conversation between Mr. Cohen and Ms. Wolkoff took place, or why it was recorded. The recording is now in the hands of federal prosecutors in Manhattan, a person familiar with the matter said.

          The inaugural committee hasn’t been asked for records or been contacted by prosecutors, according to a lawyer close to the matter, who said: “We are not aware of any evidence the investigation the Journal is reporting actually exists.”

          “Federal prosecutors have asked Richard Gates, a former campaign aide who served as the inaugural committee’s deputy chairman, about the fund’s spending and its donors, according to people familiar with the matter. Mr. Gates has met with prosecutors from the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office and the special counsel’s office.

          Mr. Gates, who served as deputy in the inaugural fund, in February pleaded guilty to conspiracy against the U.S. involving foreign political consulting work unrelated to the campaign. The case was brought by Mr. Mueller’s office. Mr. Gates agreed to cooperate with the Justice Department in ongoing investigations.”

          and last snippet:

          “Mr. Mueller has also probed whether any foreign money flowed to the inaugural fund, which is prohibited from accepting foreign funds. In August, the U.S. attorney’s office in Washington, on a referral from Mr. Mueller, obtained a guilty plea from a Washington consultant who admitted he used a U.S. citizen to serve as a “straw purchaser” so that a “prominent Ukraine oligarch” could attend the inauguration. The names were never disclosed.”

          Read the rest here:

          https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-inauguration-spending-under-criminal-investigation-by-federal-prosecutors-11544736455

          Basically, someone tried to sell access… but it is not President Trump related. Looks like Cohen is the bogey and probably Gates & Manafort.

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    • G3 says:

      Let’s start checking how much was Beyonce paid for her lip-synching performance for Obama? How about the Hump Day dance parties?

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      • cjzak says:

        People better stop thinking that anyone on the opposition team against PT is ever going to be properly investigated about anything let alone be charged with any major crimes. It just is not going to happen. The whole city of Washington DC is in full attack and protect our own mode against a sitting Pres. duly elected by we the people who happens to not be one of them. They are also trying to teach the American people a lesson and we are sitting here letting them do it.

        PT is standing alone and taking fire from all sides and no one, not even we the people who elected him, are doing anything to help him. We didn’t have enough of us to help him in Nov. to win overwhelmingly by voting the way he asked us to. We didn’t keep the House despite all his hard work flying everywhere to have rallies, more than one a day at times. That is a major issue and is why the left is not afraid to go farther than ever before with their anti Trump actions. They know in a couple weeks they can pretty much stop any further progress of the MAGA agenda and so are in stall and attack mode right now.

        How long does anyone expect him to hold up against this? Honestly the man is undergoing more stress and hatred being thrown at him than any person I can even think of ever has and he’s still standing there trying to do his job for us. It’s sickening to watch this. I have no idea what can be done but this man is going to physically give out at some point from this constant stress and fighting back. Is there no one who will help him and stand by his side? I am not hearing one voice come out and support him in this false set up by the SC that is growing into a major problem when it should have been dismissed a long time ago. Even if PT is cleared in court of any wrong doing the optics being drawn up for public consumption are doing damage.

        It’s extraordinarily unfair and cruel to do this to someone who is doing his best to help us and make the country better.

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    • NJ Transplant says:

      How is this the business of the NY federal prosecutors?

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    • andyocoregon says:

      I still think all these B.S. charges should be dismissed by the Attorney/Client Privilege laws.

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    • I won't back down says:

      I only have one question. Full stop.

      Did they find any of this in the GSA warrantless records grab?

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  4. youme says:

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  6. LOL!

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  7. youme says:

    The DOJ wiped text messages between former FBI employees, Lisa Page and Peter Strozk, before the Office of the Inspector General could review them.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/13/doj-destroyed-missing-strzok-page-text-messages-before-ig-reviewed-them/#.XBLIYdR-PNA.twitter

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  8. Greg says:

    CLINTON FOUNDATION HOUSE HEARING;

    Clinton Foundation May be deemed a partnership by definition;

    If classified as a partnership;
    1. Clinton will have to pay taxes at worse case on receipts of 2.5 billion?? plus penalties and interest.
    2. Bill Clinton commingling his Personal Business with the Clinton Foundation can make it easier for a judge to pierce the Clinton Foundation Shield of protective laws of being a separate entity. Therefore, Clinton’s personal wealth can be at risk.
    3. If pay to play is proven; Bill Clinton Speaking Fees would be reversed to market value.
    4. All U.S. taxpayers who donated to the Clinton Foundation and claimed a charitable deduction can possibly be reversed with penalties and interest.
    5. Doners possibly will files civil lawsuits against the Clinton Foundation for creating a sham foundation that actually was a partnership; creating a large tax liability plus interest and penalties and cost to files the lawsuits. The Clintons personal wealth is at risk; since they probably will not be protected by the entity shield.
    6. Doners might become a witness for the Prosecutors of the Clinton Foundation.
    7. I believe it was stated that only about 40% (not sure) of the foundation cash was used for the actual cause; where is the other 60% or potentially 1.5 billion dollars (Average Use is about 85%)
    8. Donors around the world will want their donations back because only 40% was used for an actual cause.
    9. Donors who did a Pay to play transaction; are upset because Hillary was not able to play. Will they also testify that they expected a favor from Hillary?

    IMO-the Clinton’s net worth could be zero with a large liability.

    The two witnesses had an identifiable paper/digital trail analysis; hard to have a strong defense against the actual numbers that links to direct laws, showing an alleged fraud.

    Just the tip of the iceberg.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Nothing will happen. That is just the way it is…. sadly.

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      • Greg says:

        Must Have Faith Sandra! Believe Justice will happen; we the people should settle for nothing less.

        I hope/wish Sundance will move fully in the direction of the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Emails; with their platform and unbelievable reporting analysis they will be doing this country a great service.

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      Maybe jail for the Clintons is a bit much. How about:

      30 years of community service predicated by effectiveness. If you can GroupON for $5 a ticket and fill Giants Stadium, cool. You must have a 50% attendance rate and use public transportation and Motel 6s along the way.

      (I don’t think they are going to be able to fill a hotel conference room and sell half the seats)

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      • Dutchman says:

        Sure they could. Just tow a small trailer, carrying a dunk tank, a 500 gal storage tank, with a pump, holding 500 gallons of raw sewage, and a big plexiglass tumbler; you put everyones ticket stub in it, spin it a few times, and draw out and call the #.

        WHAT would you pay, for a ticket to SEE it, and a chance to be the one, throwing the softball?

        As a plus, a plywood wall with a hole in it, Bill puts his head through, and you get to throw,…rotten vegetables, whatever.

        Lets face it, the Clantons have always been grifter clowns.

        They could work off their debt, and of coarse teach the family business to Chelsea, since her names on it, too.

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    • steph_gray says:

      Love it, Greg!

      Forget which treeper commented recently that his wish was to see the Clintoons bankrupted and reduced to sitting out front of an Arkansas doublewide whilst people drove by, pointed, laughed.

      I just loved that image. If they don’t get prison, I’d go for that!

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      • Greg says:

        Understood, Alright! But Justice and the Punishment should be what-ever the punishment should be for each criminal act for jail time, if found guilty. Losing their wealth is a separate punishment. Remember, the Constitution and our way of life is at risk.

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        • Dutchman says:

          If you do that, they die with a smile on their face, knowing how many hundred years of jail time they are ‘cheating’ we the people out of,…by dieing.

          I think, first strip them of their relevance. (Happening now)

          With a loss of relevence, comes a loss of POWER, and wealth which is a tool, to excercise power.

          Further strip them of wealth, until they are destitute, and with no power or relevence.

          And, every damn day, they have to wake up and face the reality, that DJT is in the White House, and they aren’t.

          THEN, fit them for leg irons and orange jumpsuits.

          Best. Served. Cold

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    • Taxes owed on $2.5 billion if at 35% would be $875 million.

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      • Greg says:

        Yep! And based upon the degree of knowingly and intentionally etc…. the penalties and interest will be in the hundreds of millions.

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  9. Moultrie Flag says:

    Random thought:

    Tom Fitton and team has worked 1000X harder and put in way more hours than Mueller and Associates.

    Robert is $30million in.

    And then there is Tom, who held together perfectly today. Scratching my head on Meadow’s insistence (?) the whistleblowers give the committee the docs, and why hadn’t they?

    LOL Answer was (excluding the obvious leaking from whomever/whatever that was to Meadow’s right) “We gave it to the agencies that can bring charges”

    Excellent. I mean how much time is spent on these dog and pony shows of no consequence?

    Thank you Tom. America is forever in your debt.

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    • Greg says:

      Yes! Tom Fitton is an Asset to the Rule of Law. And we do not need Congress investigations any longer; they showed enough of the conspiracy for the past two years. We the People want indictments and Justice.

      Meadow’s maybe was trying to get 6,000 pages of the paper/digital trails showing details of what happened in the Clinton foundation; showing the actual alleged criminal acts…even though we already have the paper trails by other reporters. This would create more pressure on Huber and Horowitz; we see more evidence and you better be doing your sworn duty.

      The reaction from the panel when they heard that these two whistleblowers might receive 15% to 30% of the tax collected on 2.5 billion dollars.

      Good News is; these two whistleblowers will not stop until they get their reward.

      The Clinton Foundation and the Hillary Emails are being closed in from all directions.

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      • Bogeyfree says:

        Both Mueller and Huber report to Whitaker today so IMO all pressure should be directed at Whitaker to take action and uphold his sworn duty.

        Maybe a few thousand letters to Whitaker with a CC to PT are in order.

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        • Greg says:

          Points well taken! I guess the pressure should come from all directions. Thousands of letters from everyone disclosing we see the paper trail evidence of all the alleged criminal acts; we demand Justice to save the Constitution and our way of life.

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  10. Dutchman says:

    So, if I’ve got this straight;

    There is an untraceable release of information; the first batcg of page/sroxz text messages. We don’t know WHO ‘signed off’on thevrelease, or the redactions.

    As people like Sundance, Kimberly Strassel, etc. went through them, they drew attention to a glaring 5 month “gap”, of NO text messages.

    Then it came out that the “cloud storage that the FBI uses to store ALL Fbi phone text messages, had a “glitch” for this CRUCIAL 5 mos., during the transition and first months of the new Trump administration, and NONE of the text messages, written on ANY Fbi issued phones, had been recovered.

    Then, after several days, I.G. Horowitz said “Oh, the Page/Stroxz emails, during the 5 mos. “Glitch”, Iv’e got them, ya want them?”
    And “I have no objection to them being released, it wouldn’t adversely effect my investigation.”

    Then, it ‘came out’ that after trying, on the phones themselves, 3 or 4 attempts, by FBI and IG’s own tech experts, Horowitz had military tech people try, and they found a little used program, ON THE PHONES THEMSELVES, that saved every text message.

    Would be VERY INTERESTING to see which employees of the FBI, soon after this news, reported their FBI issued phones lost or stolen.
    Surely there would be paperwork, requisitions for requesting a new phone.
    And certainly, this is JUST the kind of paperwork trail the I.G. would follow, as its right in his realm: 1/2 of the I.G. operation is NOT field agents, etc. It is accountants/bookeepers, and they request PAPERWORK, such as “How many FBI issued phones have neen replaced, and why?

    Was this a form of “leak trap”?Surebwould be interesting to see who in the FBI reported their phones lost stolen, irretrievable broken, (fell out of my pocket and I backed over it, damndest thing!) soon after the story broke on HOW Horowitz recovered the texts, from page/stroxz, for the crucial 5 mos.period.

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  11. youme says:

    The whistle blowers and Tom Fitton on the Clinton Foundation remind me of the guy who blew the whistle on Bernard Madoff…no one cared, no one:

    “Harry Markopolos spotted Bernard Madoff’s $65bn Ponzi scheme years before it imploded. He tells the Guardian how he lived in fear of his life while trying to convince the world”

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2010/mar/24/bernard-madoff-whistleblower-harry-markopolos

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      There were two reps in the room, MAYBE 3, but all came and puffed their chests and apologized for asking the same questions, while getting the talking points across.

      Is there any story about this, anywhere on MSM?

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  13. youme says:

    When the dems take over the House and send out an avalanche of subpoenas, will any republican or cabinet member show up? Apparently no one has to show up.

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    • Dutchman says:

      It is perhaps helpful to remeber the intended, as well as actual ‘purpose’of Congressional hearings.

      The obvious ACTUAL purpose for Congressional hearings is for Politicians to get facetime on T.V., and for “messaging”.

      The ORIGINAL purpose is factfinding, either for ‘oversight’, i.e. to insure the executive is administrating the laws as intended, or see if existing laws need to be amended, or new laws written.

      There original purpose is NOT to investigate “Wrong doing” or “wrong doers”, per se.

      So, those who are dissappointed that “nothing comes from Congressional hearings”, probably have unrealistic expectations, to begin with.

      Now, I suppose we enter thevphase where we are GLAD that little comes from House hearings, as the Dems take the House.

      Will we have dueling hearings, with House investigating Administration, while Senate is investigating previous administration?

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      • Moultrie Flag says:

        No one even covered it.

        I dont bemoan, personally, what their purpose is. It is just if no one is there and there is no coverage then what exactly is the point of doing it?

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      Yes.

      Bonus points for the new NY AG’s recent promises to take down everything Trump.

      Headlines for 2 years, guarenteed.

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  14. youme says:

    Has any one seen this guy? Does he even exist?

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    • youme says:

      Just substitute John Huber for Keyser Soze:

      Verbal: Who is Keyser Soze? He is supposed to be Turkish. Some say his father was German. Nobody believed he was real. Nobody ever saw him or knew anybody that ever worked directly for him, but to hear Kobayashi tell it, anybody could have worked for Soze. You never knew. That was his power. The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.”

      The Usual Suspects

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      He doesn’t exist in the way a lot had hoped,

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      • Dutchman says:

        He will go down in history, as the greatest head fake, since the trojan horse!

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        • Moultrie Flag says:

          Maybe. Is that his fault, though? I mean HE didn’t promise anyone the rainbow,

          I don’t remember, but the “30K” or whatever sealed indictments, were probably misread.

          What today exposed is that Huber (one of the whistleblowers refused to mind read but the last minute follow-up and no show sends the real message) just recently even started to care, and/or how ever many indictments just may be left over crap from 2016 and they are working thru it for ordinary reasons.

          Maybe there is a gem left in there or two. This just shines some light into the system we call the swamp.

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      • dufrst says:

        He was Session’s potted plant to CYA whenever Trump demanded answers.

        Sessions was the worse Attorney General in US history!

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        • Moultrie Flag says:

          I get it.

          Trump demands action, Sessions tells him the stats coming out of Utah. Yet nothing was being done, DESPITE whistleblowers dumping docs for years.

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          • Ken Lawson says:

            While I appreciate most all of your thoughts and ideas, the whole Sessions thing, in my opinion, is way overblown. Sessions didn’t work out. He’s an old line guy who believes in law enforcement and has a hard time thinking that it is or could be corrupt. I don’t think he was intentionally trying to undermine the president. I think he was just holding to his old views that don’t mesh with what’s been exposed.

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            • mark says:

              well he did….his fake appointment of Huber without followup to find out if Huber was actually doing anything is the biggest travesty of justice ever. This guy huber, at the very least, should be involuntarily transferred somewhere anywhere that he doesn’t want to be. I’m infuriated. Personally I think he should be prosecuted for ignoring all the evidence. He was flying around per Meadows….doing nothing.

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            • Ken,
              I think you need to wake up regarding Jeff Sessions. I think this is a very relevant clip for lot of folks here today who are still defending Sessions..

              I will never understand two things though – why President Trump did not fire him immediately on his recusal and why Sessions blew away his life long ambition?

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        • Well just hold on there a second. As inept as Sessions may have been he was not even close to being as bad as Holder or Lynch. Not even close to being close.

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          • Dutchman says:

            Yeah, and I got a poop sandwich for ya.

            But het, its HORSE poop, which is not NEARLY as bad as DOG poop sandwich, and don’t even get me started on the CAT poop sandwich!.
            So, bon apetite!

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          • dufrst says:

            Holder and Lynch were loyal to their boss. Sessions subverted his boss. As bad as they were policy wise and as criminal as they were in many cases, at they weren’t inept and subversive!

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            • lawrencepaul1 says:

              That’s a whole different argument.
              Sessions was not the worst AG in history. And it isn’t even close.

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              • dufrst says:

                In history! You will see. He basically cost Trump (us) the House! Had he never taken the AG position to begin with, we would be miles away better off! There would never be a special counsel investigation of Trump for anything and there definitely would be a real investigation of Hillary. He was terrible! Not only that but he subverted the president in addition to recusing himself. He selected Rosenstein. He allowed the special counse to run amok, and he refused to cooperate with House GOP in their investigations. A snake!

                More and more I see how bad he truly was. Look what they did to Flynn, Papadopoulos, and Manafort! This is a national disgrace and Sessions has aided and abetted the coverup. Trump couldn’t get rid of him faster! And now we look and see that the IG and Huber, who he selected are jokes to bad to tell! It’s sad!

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              • davidb says:

                @ Lawrence…Sessions was the Worst. He pretended to have Trumps back, but was inserting a knife in it. Huber was HIS appointed Fake investigator, to keep Trump thinking justice was being done, while cover up was instead…He was a double agent AG…the Fking worst ever.

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                • Dutchman says:

                  Once you take one fork in the road, its really not possible to know what would have happened, had you taken the other fork.
                  Its all speculation, and without a time machine, we CAN’T know.
                  For instance, if POTUS had fired Mueller, or Sessions (before he did), its POSSIBLE enough Senators would have voted to impeach.

                  IF POTUS had a real firebreathing AG, its POSSIBLE he would have been impeached for “politicising” the Justice Dept., and enough Republican Senators would have voted to convict.

                  I’m not talking 64d chess, at all. I THINK Sessiins was a skunk, all I’m saying is, we can’t possibly know what would have happened,…

                  IF

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                • lawrencepaul1 says:

                  Alrighty then

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    • Blaze says:

      From what I gather there is an open criminal investigation in Little Rock on The CF thus the reason Huber couldn’t testify. Repeating something I read today.

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    • avi says:

      He is in the Beer Hall singing the Horst Wessel song mir Herr Müller!

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  15. burnett044 says:

    Huber is a goober….nuff said

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  16. Moultrie Flag says:

    Help my small batch bourbon brain remember, but is Wolfe (Senate Intel) that was banging and leaking inside Zoe Barnes the FIRST to face jail time out of this whole mess from “the other side”?

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  17. burnett044 says:

    I saw where Jared was being considered for COS…if true ..he will get it..me thinks..

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      I would be OK with that.

      Opposition will blow up any choice, no matter what the choice.

      Not a fan of the heat having family in there to begin with, but then again, he needs people around him he can trust.

      If there is anything we have learned, there are and have been many people he hoped he could trust, that burned him.

      So just do it, Mr. President. You can and are running circles, and will continue to do so.

      Just imagine what we could do, That is the cold anger angst.

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        The first time I ever heard Jarad say anything was when Sundance posted that interview.

        He is sharp. And seems extremely loyal to our President.

        But Ivanka should take him shopping. He dresses like a geek.

        And that……is more than likely why people don’t see much in him.

        Yeah…….”Girls will go crazy for a Sharp Dressed Man”

        Ba..da da……da…da….da….da….love the car…

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      • piper567 says:

        imo, Jared is far to valuable as one who “takes the lumps out” of difficult negotiation situations to be removed from that role.
        But, you know, only the President knows.

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    • Timmy- the-Ute says:

      I thought that was likely last week.

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    • A liberal Global Warming Alarmist former Clinton supporter as COS. I can’t see that ever happening under Trump. This is a rumor that started at Huff Post so it almost certainly Pap. I really, really hope it is any way.

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      • burnett044 says:

        lp1…i am no fan of him either nor his wife….but i can see where the choice is possible.

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        • lawrencepaul1 says:

          I would be as terrible a choice as Pence was for VP.

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          • burnett044 says:

            lp1….lol please don`t get me started on Pence…i was so upset when he was chosen as VP…

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            • lawrencepaul1 says:

              Yep, me too.

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              • Ken Lawson says:

                I can’t say I have an opinion either way of Pence. However, I will say that if POTUS gets through all 8 years with the kind of success he’s had so far (and I have no reason to believe he won’t), and then if Pence decides to run, he will be the nominee. The American people are only able to think and vote in terms of what’s in it for them. If they are happy with the way things are, they’ll vote for Pence because they want to continue what President Trump has done. It will be Reagan and Bush all over again.

                As for why Pence was chosen, it was because Trump relied heavily on the evangelical community’s support to get elected and man of the ministers who advised him supported Pence. That’s what influenced the decision more than anything.

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                • lawrencepaul1 says:

                  That’s what I think also.

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                • Ken Lawson says:

                  Oops! I meant to write “many of the ministers” not “man of the ministers.”

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                • 🍺Gunny66 says:

                  Plus the fact that in most all cases the RNC selects the Vice President.

                  In this case it was Preibus and then he was made COS

                  How did that work out?

                  If the President runs in 2020, Pence will decline to run with him……..This will be the President’s decision….for personal reasons.

                  The President has proven above and beyond to the Evangelical community he is a God fearing man.

                  For his next term the President needs an “attack dog” to defend his positions.

                  Pence just stands around having his picture taken.

                  Like during that Pelosi / Schumer interview.

                  Pence just sat their….said nothing…. can’t he say something?

                  He shoulda been kicking over tables…..

                  Pence is a mole with a shiv in his back pocket

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          • 🍺Gunny66 says:

            Hey, How about we make Pence nuts…..

            Make Gen Flynn COS…..

            Popcorn…..get your popcorn here….😎

            Liked by 1 person

            • lawrencepaul1 says:

              That would be the best possible choice in my opinion.

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            • Dutchman says:

              Gunny;
              I am not sure POTUS needs a ‘traditional’ VP, as DJT is NOT a ‘traditional POTUS.

              He’s his own ‘attack dog’, so what POTUS neefs from his VP is a ‘reassuring figure’ for those wilting flowers, that get all upset by tje DJT ‘style’ over substance.

              With the traditional roles, the POTUS stays ‘above the fray, while having his VP do the nattering nabobs of negativity routine.

              Can you honestly see DJT staying ‘above the fray’? Hence, by default, Pence gets the ‘above the fray, Presidential’ role,
              Yes?

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        • paper doll says:

          Dear Lord, no.

          Liked by 1 person

    • mimbler says:

      On the plus side he would be loyal to PDJT.
      On the minus side, I don’t think much of his political beliefs line up with MAGA.

      I’d rather not see this happen, but I haven’t been asked for my vote.

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    • G. Combs says:

      I think Jared is way too useful in foreign diplomacy. As the Son-in-Law he cares weight in the eyes of foreign leaders that an ordinary ‘official’ never could. Even if they are the Trump wolverines.

      Liked by 2 people

  18. duchess01 says:

    CHRISTMAS 🔴 BEAUTIFUL First Lady Melania Trump Reads for Children at National Hospital Visit

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    • paper doll says:

      Frankly, if the COS has to come from the Trump family, I purpose Melania for COS over the K’s. The biggest plus ; she would not be constantly pushing for liberal programs. I’m really not kidding. I don’t dislike Ivanka and Jared….I dislike their ideology

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  19. Skippy says:

    THURSDAY DECEMBER 13, 2018

    Utah’s top federal cops question whether child sex offender treatment works
    By Dennis Romboy @dennisromboy
    Published: December 13, 2018 3:59 pm

    SALT LAKE CITY — Utah’s top federal law enforcers question the effectiveness of treatment programs for child sex offenders.

    “In our career and our experience, rehabilitation — although a laudable goal — is unrealistic in dealing with these types of offenders,” U.S. Attorney for Utah John Huber said Thursday. “Stiff justice is an appropriate remedy, first and foremost, for keeping people safe.”

    Huber and Eric Barnhart, FBI special-agent-in-charge in Salt Lake City, met with reporters Thursday to talk about current crime trends in the state. Huber called the proliferation of sex crimes involving children troubling.

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  20. A little something to cheer you all up. Watch the video.

    The ‘Other’ America (That MSM Won’t Let You See)
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-13/other-america-msm-wont-let-you-see

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    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      dry inspiring video…….

      Yeah…..and they say no one will get off their butts to take our country back

      Look at the vid…..

      Liked by 1 person

      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        Very……I am so tired of this auto correct crap…..

        Can someone fix this? Spell check is all ya need….

        Now it auto corrects after a time….

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      • lawrencepaul1 says:

        If 1% of us decide to fight, that’s a well armed army of over 3 million. My guess is that it would be a good deal more than 1%.
        There is a very good reason why they want to disarm us.

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    • rashomon says:

      Actor/band performer Gary Sinese’s foundation sponsored that trip for the Gold Star children. He has been a determined supporter of our military since my relative served over in Kuwait…long time ago…and continues with just as much enthusiasm today. Remember him when you make choices about which entertainers you support with your dollars.

      Sinese iss a national treasure!

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  21. notyetbeguntofight says:

    “Everyone Is Smart Except Trump”
    “That’s why they all are billionaires and all got elected president.”
    Fabulous column from earlier this year by Dov Fischer in the American Spectator–I missed it, maybe you did too. Catch up here:
    https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/

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    • Dutchman says:

      So, thought of a ‘play’,…
      After POTUS’s nominee gets through Senate confirmation, but BEFORE he takes over as A.G., Whitaker falls on his sword, for POTUS;

      He releases the I.G. report on the Clinton Foundation Investigation, without classifying all the incriminating stuff in an appendix, and without writing a conclusion and summary totally at odds with the findings.

      Then, the ‘New’ A.G., has no choice but to clean house, rather than cover up.
      “For the ‘sake of the agency’, and to rehabilitate the reputation of the Dept. Of Justice, and restore the American peoples trust in the Dept. and the ‘Rule of Law’, he will HAVE to investigate and prosecute, wherever it leads.”

      Whether he WANTS to, or not.

      Of coarse, the same scenario COULD play out, with releasing the documents, but I’m not sure Whitaker would be able to do that, as acting.

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  22. linda4298 says:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/oversight-panel-hearing-on-clinton-foundation-blows-up-as-gop-
    During their testimony, Moynihan and Doyle said they carried out an extensive forensic investigation of the Clinton Foundation based on public records, tax filings, and private interviews with Clinton Foundation officials. The investigators said Clinton Foundation CFO Andrew Kessel admitted to them in a taped conversation that Bill Clinton used the foundation’s bank accounts for personal expenses.

    “He told us that Mr. Clinton mixed and matched his personal business with that of the foundation,” said Moynihan.

    They also said they viewed foundation emails from 2002 discussing deals with the government of Mozambique. Moynihan said this was evidence that the Clinton Foundation was working on behalf of foreign governments even though the foundation’s stated mission in IRS filings at the time was to build Bill Clinton’s presidential library.

    “The foundation began working as an agent of a foreign government early in its life and continued” to do so, said Moynihan. Meadows also expressed disappointment that the Department of Justice declined to send U.S. Attorney John Huber, who is reportedly investigating the foundation, to testify on Thursday.

    Rep. Gerry Connolly, the ranking Democrat on the committee, objected to the hearing as a rehash of “conspiracy theories.”

    “It’s two weeks before Christmas and my Republican friends are re-gifting an old trope that needs desperate reworking,” said Connolly.

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  23. linda4298 says:

    GeorgeStephanopoulos

    Verified account

    @GStephanopoulos
    Follow Follow @GStephanopoulos
    More
    Just sat down with Michael Cohen for his first response to sentencing and President Trump. Watch tomorrow on @GMA Now isn’t this rich, Stephy who covered and helped Bubba with his bimbos, who they paid off with campaign money, is he reall going to ask him about the bimbos with a straight face and say that Trump committed a felony? and by the way Cohen looks like hell, if you want to see, go look on his twitter.

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  24. Bogeyfree says:

    Now that the whistleblowers are on the record with trying to get just about any investigative body of the government (DOJ, FBI, IRS and even Post Office) to act on their CF findings, why don’t they go over to the WH and walk PT, his lawyers along with Whitaker, through their 6K pages of findings.

    Since PT is the highest ranking member of the executive branch and sworn to uphold our constitution and laws, wouldn’t he be forced to act?

    Maybe order an immediate SC to investigate and name Joe DiGenova as SC?

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  25. chojun says:

    Sorry guys I’ve been pretty optimistic up until this point and I don’t want to sound like a concern troll. But really, it’s time for reality.

    After today’s testimony it’s become a bit more clear what’s going on. The reason why Meadows called the hearing on the Clinton Foundation today and invited Huber appears to be to call attention to the fact that Huber has been investigating the CF for almost a year now without any results and he hasn’t even been interested in engaging whistleblowers. I believe the purpose was to confront Huber on this, not to get him to reveal anything (which Huber wouldn’t anyway if there were ongoing investigations).

    What I did not expect today was the revelation that whistleblowers uncovered evidence of FARA violations by the Clinton Foundation. This very well means that Mueller has gobbled up the Clinton Foundation investigation (insofar as the Foundation may have benefited from/experienced foreign influence in ’16).

    I think legally Trump is in a corner and all of this stuff is going to fade away quietly in the darkness whilst Trump & associates are subjected to a constant onslaught of legal battles as cover until the bad actors in DC are covered. Trump needs to fire Mueller and Rosenstein immediately – impeachment/obstruction be damned. If he doesn’t, then all of this goes away and we don’t get justice. Trump is the only person in generations who will be able to drain The Swamp. Will he?

    At this point Q is becoming a destructive force for draining the Swamp. As long as people are convinced that there is a “plan” then people will be prevented from reaching the level of anger required to actually drive change in Washington.

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  26. For Eyes says:

    Wait for Sessions. Wrong move.

    Wait for the IG. Wrong move.

    Wait for the midterms. Wrong move.

    Now the wait for Huber is the: Wrong move.

    Gee, maybe a pattern has formed.

    Don’t wait. Take the offensive. Take action.

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  27. Blue State Blues. I would not live in a Blue state if I were to be given a free house and a pension to do so.

    New Jersey Declares War On Its Residents: Plans Door-To-Door Gun Confiscation Campaign
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-13/new-jersey-declares-war-its-residents-plans-door-door-gun-confiscation-campaign

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  28. Georgia Peach says:

    Unpopular opinion here, but Trump needs to resign. We can’t win against the Uniparty. Trump supporters and the President himself are being punished. There are special counsels, meetings and conspiracies. I voted for Trump and was proud to do so. The country’s in better shape now than under Obama. But it feels like, although there is less racial divisiveness, the country is more torn apart, fatigued, than ever. It’s exhausting never seeing any positive MSM headlines about Trump.

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    • Ad rem says:

      I just accepted your resignation from the Tree House….which should not bother you too much considering your short and totally unremarkable posting history.

      Liked by 7 people

    • What are advocating here? Are you nuts? We want Trump for the next 6 years! Fight MSM with him! If not don’t post here!

      Liked by 2 people

    • patrickhenrycensored says:

      What exactly would his resignation accomplish?
      The country is equally divided (if you believe polls) in its approval of his performance.
      That is basically a party line division.
      His resignation wouldn’t change that, from either side.
      The Uniparty is being dismantled, but attrition is a slow process.
      The msm is liberal owned. It’s never going to give Trump positive reviews.
      Some fatigue is inevitable………………………but when one is fighting for the life of their country; and its future………………….WE WILL NEVER TIRE OF IT.
      And neither will he.

      Liked by 2 people

      • G. Combs says:

        “What exactly would his resignation accomplish?”

        President Trump and his family’s total DESTRUCTION…

        “It is not enough to simply beat Trump. He must be destroyed thoroughly. HIS KIND must not rise again.” — David Plouffe June 13, 2016

        “What is going to put him in jail eventually… destroy anything he’s ever built, and his children, is a 30 year dishonest criminal enterprise. One thing will take him out of the presidency, the other will ruin him forever…”– @DonnyDeutsch w/ @NicolleDWallace

        President Trump has a tiger by the tail. Either he kills it or it will kill him. There has been no other choice since he came down that elevator.

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    • Zorro says:

      So it’s the wife’s fault when she is getting beaten by the husband.

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    • Moultrie Flag says:

      I don’t say this often, but you have to be a troll.

      Or you forget the s/

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    • facebkwallflower says:

      No thank you! My family and I are thriving, after a long dry spell economically, with increased wages, benefits, lower gas prices, etc., MAGA/KAGA

      Liked by 1 person

  29. snarkybeach says:

    our favorite body language expert posted her observations on the Nancy & Chuck meeting with our President:

    Liked by 2 people

  30. Ivehadit says:

    “Usually President’s start at high approval and descend-Trump, because of the media is doing the opposite and steadily rising”

    Liked by 4 people

  31. WSB says:

    John Solomon just let something drop tonight about the Flynn case.

    Liked by 2 people

  32. WSB says:

    He believes the President does not know about this, and that one lawmaker tried to bring this up but the DIA thwarted him.

    Liked by 2 people

  33. Zorro says:

    The Dems are saying the CF investigation, (or what just might be talk of an investigation) is a “partisan exercise”. This is the exact terminology and reminder to throw back to them over any investigation of POTUS.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Moultrie Flag says:

      You mean like “It’s a vast right wing conspiracy”

      HRC 1999

      Liked by 1 person

    • LM says:

      The Clintons have raped and pillaged this country—its morals, its legal foundations, its borders, its finances, and its government institutions—for their personal pleasure and amassing of power.

      Anyone who would look the other way at this is “partisan” to say the least.

      Liked by 1 person

  34. FofBW says:

    PT is over the target. The Globalists/Uniparty/Communists/Marxists/Trolls?etc, are giving it all they got.

    They think they smell blood in the water…..but is it just chum??!!

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  35. FofBW says:

    Indeed!

    Liked by 2 people

  36. Dutchman says:

    On the “Clintons never have been prosecuted, in 30 years, so never WILL be;
    People lived next to volcanoes, for 30-50 years, or more. They said “Its NEVER erupted, never will. Famous last words.

    Things continue to not happen,….right up to the point that they happen.

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  37. California Joe says:

    My.neighbor just bought a Chevy Volt. He has to charge the car overnight every two days. His electric bill shot up to $648 a month from $125.

    Liked by 2 people

    • Dutchman says:

      Ahh, but hes saving so much on buying that dirty, polluting gasoline, that puts all that global warming er,..climate change plant food in the air!

      Its SO much more ‘responsible’ and ‘sustainable’ for him to use electricity, generated from renewable energy, er backed up with coal or nat.gas to charge his car.

      And wait till he has,to buy replacement batteries, might as well throw the car away, with the cost of new batteries.

      Liked by 3 people

  38. jeans2nd says:

    AG Jeff left his mind in Washington D.C., in the White House. Literally. Quite possibly why AG Jeff lost his mo-jo.
    Stephen Miller at his finest. 8:47

    Liked by 2 people

    • bflyjesusgrl says:

      He’s so good. Wish we could see more of him.
      “Immigration is an emotional issue and it ought to be an emotional issue because it affects people’s lives. And If you want to stop the horrors on the northward trek, the rape that occurs, the abuse that occurs, the assault and the death that occurs, Then for the love of God, fund the Border Wall!!!”

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  39. IF EVERY DERN NEARLY ONE OF YOU…
    Hasn’t noticed the “urgency” in @Sundances posts..
    Our Government is FAILING..
    (example) “have you got your “yellow vest’s yet”..
    There is NO Rule of Law..
    There are 2 sets of Law..
    One for Them..
    Another set for US..
    BEND OVER.. (with-out) lube..
    Or order & grab your yellow vest,, NOW..
    That is all..
    Prepare accordingly..

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  40. Maria Butina plea guilty today to one count of failing to register as a foreign agent with the Justice Department.

    Instead of telling the court she was born in Maryland, Butina agreed to plea that she was a non-citizen.

    She remains in a jail isolation cell without bond until Feb. 29th when she will be sentenced up to five years in prison.

    Judge Tanya S. Chutkan was “randomly assigned” the cases of Butina and Imran Awan, the “Pakistani Mystery Man”. Chutkan released Awan without jail time “because he suffered enough”.

    Awan was accused of running a spy ring in Congress since 2004. He received immunity from all past federal crimes after pleading guilty to one count of bank fraud.

    https://brassballs.blog/home/maria-butina-stays-in-jail-isolation-without-bond-pending-sentencing-on-feb-29

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