December 8th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #688

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1,187 Responses to December 8th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #688

  1. This is a very sad and depressing story.
    Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha gulp hahahahahahah

    Avenatti Ordered To Give Estranged Wife Ferrari, Private Jet Stake And $160K Per Month
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-08/michael-avenatti-ordered-give-estranged-wife-ferrari-private-jet-stake-and-160k

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  2. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  3. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  4. wyntre says:

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  6. sunnydaze says:

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  7. Lucille says:

    So just what was Wilbur Ross thinking? Or did he know or if he didn’t, why not?

    FEDS OK’D SALE OF TOP-SECRET SATELLITE TECH TO CHINA
    Export license granted for Boeing deal with communist-owned firm

    The U.S. Commerce Department approved a deal by Boeing to sell a satellite containing top-secret military technology to a startup company financed by the communist Chinese government.
    After the Wall Street Journal reported the deal Tuesday, Boeing backed out, citing default for nonpayment, the paper reported Friday.

    But intelligence experts such as Adm. Dennis Blair, a former U.S. director of national intelligence, are baffled by the Commerce Department’s approval. The Journal noted Blair chairs an advisory committee for a Boeing competitor, Lockheed Martin Space Systems.

    https://www.wnd.com/2018/12/feds-okd-sale-of-top-secret-satellite-tech-to-china/#rXqVEsA7jbQQsDLr.99

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  8. Amy2 says:

    And now for a short break….

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  9. Katherine McCoun says:

    On the Paris protest thread Cali mentioned that there were EU forces there which might help answer the question of where 89K police suddenly came from. Sunnydaze posted this tweet w/pictures
    https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1071564406931292160&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F2018%2F12%2F07%2Fsacrebleu-macron-shuts-down-paris-in-attempt-to-stop-protests-deploys-89000-police-around-france%2Fcomment-page-3%2F%23comments
    I found this video showing an armored vehicle withe the EU symbol 1:25

    amazing video of one protester just being beat while the reporter is video and talking on camera 1:01 forward

    some police on various videos had blue stripes on their helmets while many did not…EU v. French?
    many had “police” on their uniforms in English which I found interesting
    I started poking around for more info to find the symbol that was on the armored vehicle. The EU does have a security force and that is its symbol. The below articles are relevant. Imagine having UN security forces/armed “police” from foreign countries to counter a Tea Party protest! Or any political protest here on our own soil! Disgraceful for France!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chairman_of_the_European_Union_Military_Committee
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michail_Kostarakos

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    • Katherine McCoun says:

      So sorry – While looking deeper into the above I had not “refreshed” & did not realize Sunnydaze had posted here as well. I will be more careful in the future. I was on this page for a while typing the above as I watched a number of videos and read articles on wikipedia and other places, etc. Again, Sorry I didn’t refresh first.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “Imagine having UN security forces/armed “police” from foreign countries to counter a Tea Party protest!”

      That is exactly (one of) the prominent Far-Right Conspiracies (considered far-right, anyway) that’s been floating around for decades. Literally decades. Directly related to the Black Helicopter theories similarly promoted.

      Look at the images above. The solution to that simple math equation is left as an exercise for the reader.

      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=black%20helicopter%20theory

      “Black helicopters are part of a conspiracy theory that claims that special silent running “black” helicopters are used by secret agents of the New World Order, United Nations troops preparing to invade the United States of America, and/or the Men in Black. Parapsychologist John Keel has argued that this theory has similar origins to those regarding UFO’s, ghosts and fairies; that they are part of modern mythology; in this case, representing a fear of the government and its technology. ”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conspiracy_theories

      “This conspiracy theory emerged in the U.S. in the 1960s. The John Birch Society, who asserted that a United Nations force would soon arrive in black helicopters to bring the U.S. under UN control, originally promoted it.[4] The theory re-emerged in the 1990s, under the presidency of Bill Clinton, and has been promoted by talk show host Glenn Beck.[5][6] A similar theory concerning so-called “phantom helicopters” appeared in the UK in the 1970s.”

      Yes, yes. They’re all crazy aren’t they? Paranoid. Or are they? Funny how our government, and indeed the governments of the world have a way of “debunking” these “crazy theories”. FISA, mass surveillance of citizens, centralized government propped up by a select few powerful centralized banking system disregarding national boundaries and the interests of the sovereign citizens therein, foreign troops invading sovereign nations as a means of exercising Global Police State tactics.

      Foreign troop? Check!
      Men In Black? Check!
      One World Government? They’re trying their damnest, it appears.

      I remember when I was much younger, when the whole Militia movement in the U.S. was hot, in regards to it being in the media spotlight. I used to think: wow, a little over the top, are we now. Well… I’m older now, let’s just put it that way. Plus: global information flow, despite the hunormous effort to squash it (thanks the Lord).

      New World Order, my friends. It ain’t just a line in a fancy speech. Apparently.

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  10. Publius2016 says:

    tax time is coming and the loss of SALT is hitting Coastal States and big cities hard! the Squeaker demanded this pound of flesh and 45 accepted the deal because Ocare Repeal was to bring Tax Cut 2.0…well, Tax Cuts went through but Ocare Repeal failed…The Squeaker is happy as Blue State Republicans were wiped out! but guess what? Leverage! now with “disaster looming” for these families…consider: $150,000 combined income with standard deduction of $24,000 versus$150,000 combined income with itemized deduction of $48,000! the $20,000 of taxable income!! even with lower rate, it hurts because its $5,000 CASH DUE at least!!! pitch forks are going to come out for Coastal and Big City Fanilies!!!

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  11. WeThePeople2016 says:

    Woah!

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Trump! Trump! Trump!

      He doesn’t even have to lift a finger. Amazing. Of course, it’s not entirely his doing. But still… nice to think about.

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      • piper567 says:

        mr.piddles, I continue to believe the President’s speech in Poland WAS a major contribution…he made it clear where values lay that the USA would support. and shared.
        and all the world was watching.
        The Poles loved it, and imo, others also did.
        the Zippo thing.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      One-by-one they are falling. Brexit led the way and hopefully they can complete the deal.

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  12. Risa says:

    “Rob Khuzami (along w/ Pat Fitzgerald) was my partner on Blind Sheikh case. As skillful a lawyer as I’ve been privileged to work with. Always issues when donation violations treated as felonies. But you can be sure the SDNY team is SDNY caliber. Meaning POTUS is in real peril.”

    The above is a tweet from Andrew McCarthy, sorry I’m not skillful at posting it in the original format.
    But isn’t this worrisome??? Please, tell me it isn’t.

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    • MAGADJT says:

      I would say this is worrisome. McCarthy has pretty much been on POTUS side during this entire saga, so if he is saying this then there is some there there IMO.

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      • Risa says:

        I don’t believe there is any “there” there, but the DS seems skillful at creating the illusion of substance. Does this pertain to Cohen’s payment to a Stormy Daniels?

        I am sick to death of these people.

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        • mimbler says:

          I am not a lawyer, but I have read lawyers saying from the very beginning, that a candidate spending money on something he would spend it on if he were not a candidate means it is not campaign funds.

          Trump had a history of settling nuisance sex claims against him before being a candidate, so his payment to Stormy would be clear of campaign finance laws.

          Alan Dershowitz says it wasn’t a crime,

          I don’t know why McCarthy is saying what he is saying, unless he is just talking about political fallout.

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          • Mark1971 says:

            I think the problem for Trump would be if there is proof of him saying explicitly that he was making the pay off because he didn’t want the issue come up during his campaign. We already have recordings of Trump made by Cohen. Are there more that contain him saying this?

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            • Risa says:

              Well, the embarrassment to President Trump’s family would have been greatly increased with the intense media coverage that comes with a presidential campaign. I can completely understand why not wanting it to come out during the campaign.

              Didn’t Obama’s campaign pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines for campaign violations?

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            • mimbler says:

              Yes, but even then it was his own money, and he can give unlimited to his campaign.
              Dershowitz says there’s nothing criminal there,

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              • Mark1971 says:

                He can give as much as he wants to his campaign, but it has to be reported to the FEC as a campaign contribution. The money given to Stormy Daniels was not reported. So if the case can be made that it is a campaign expense then the violation will be failing to report it as a contribution to the campaign..

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    • MakeAmericaGreat says:

      Fellow lawyer responds

      McCarthy wants to give his buddies the benefit of the doubt until they prove themselves dubious.

      My guess is Khuzami will end up disappointing McCarthy in the end, much as others have in the extended DOJ team.

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      • MakeAmericaGreat says:

        McCarthy did not want to believe how corrupt the FBI and DOJ were until he figured it out for himself. But that did come to pass.

        Guess is same will take place with Khuzami/SDNY, in time.

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      • Mark1971 says:

        This is true. I remember McCarthy doing a column on being disappointed by the way the FISA warrant was obtained. He had been defending them up to that point because he thought it inconceivable that they would do something like they ended up doing. I think these people are friends of his and he wants to give them the benefit of the doubt.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Andy McCarthy has always believed the best out of the lawyers and the institution – until the evidence is overwhelming. I am not sure he would ever believe in systematic corruption.

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  13. Robert Smith says:

    SCREAMING CNN HEADLINE

    Rex Tillerson just exposed Donald Trump’s greatest weakness!

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/politics/donald-trump-rex-tillerson/index.html

    What – hiring dumb people?

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