December 5th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #685

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1,119 Responses to December 5th – 2018 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #685

  1. amanda4321 says:

    Never Forget: George Bush’s Wars Set The Stage For 25 Years Of Endless War
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-05/never-forget-george-bushs-wars-set-stage-25-years-endless-war
    “George Bush’s wars would prove to be only an introduction to what was to come during the next 25 years of American foreign policy: target a foreign regime that poses no threat to the US, and manufacture a nice-sounding reason for doing so. Today, the methods are the same, and only the names have changed. ”

    Good comment from over there: “The MSM is praising this guy like there’s no tomorrow. Proves he MUST be pure evil when CNN, NPR, NBC, WaPo, New York Slimes, etc fawn over him.” (it’s kind of opposite day when it comes to the MSM–truth is always the opposite of what they say, they attack the good guys and lionize the bad guys)

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    • He did say Trump s u c k s awhile back what would you expect.

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    • bill says:

      amanda, well said.

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    • TPW says:

      Listened to MSNBC idiot Brian Williams criticize PT cause he remarked “Happy to do it” about sending AF1 to get Bush 41 and family……BW went on about that was protocol and not a personal favor conducted on PT part……I never Tweet but had to send a tweet saying that… We the people own AF1 and PT represents us when he sent that Plane to transport the Bushes. PT was happy to do it on our behalf as a show of gratitude. To suggest that it is protocol is an insult to the Bush Family.

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    • avi says:

      I was one of the few people to oppose Gulf War One at the time.
      Two Term Reagans people worked diligently building up Saddam as a bulwark against Iran and flipping him from the Soviet orbit. By fighting Iran, he also protected the other Gulf States.
      Kuwait was no innocent, they were slant drilling into Iraqi wells and overproduced lowering oil prices to hurt Iraq and were calling out on loans to Iraq from the war. Bush’s ambassador inadvertently “green lit” the invasion of Kuwait.
      A better policy would have given Iraq a face saving deal and to have kept Saddam as our vassal, but defeating Saddam and making him an enemy was part of Bush’s plan to “coast to victory”-Sununu in 1992. The wrong policy didn’t work out as planned.

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      • mr.piddles says:

        Well, that’s an insightful perspective and comment. My Rube’s Assessment goes something like this:
        a.) The U.S. created Saddam and gave him fancy bunkers and chemicals
        b.) Saddam fashioned himself a modern day Stalin
        c.) Oil
        d.) Oil

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      • Sentient says:

        Ariel Sharon told us that Saddam was the enemy because he was giving money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. Now Netanyahu tells us not to worry about Sunni Arabs, worry about the Shia Iranians; they’re the enemy. We just do what we’re told.

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      • Artymisfoul says:

        BS. There was no green light in those statements. Stop with the Koolaid.

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        • avi says:

          “We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait.”

          Ambassador April Glaspie

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          • Artymisfoul says:

            That is not a green light to go in and takeover a country and she stated that as well later that it was in regards to diplonatic pressure. From wiki.

            According to Richard E. Rubenstein, Glaspie was later asked by British journalists why she had said that, her response was “we didn’t think he would go that far” meaning invade and annex the whole country. Although no follow-up question was asked, it can be inferred that what the U.S. government thought in July 1990 was that Saddam Hussein was only interested in pressuring Kuwait into debt forgiveness and to lower oil production.[23]

            Stop using that narrative as if it was a green light to invade as IT obviously was no such thing. Unless your confirmation bias keeps running on overdrive.

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    • Risa says:

      From my perspective there will never be a need to build a memorial to the accomplishments of George H.W. Bush. I think of him every time I drive past the empty manufacturing buildings which were once full of Americans with jobs, before he started the move to NAFTA which sent those jobs to Mexico.

      Let those empty buildings and lost jobs be his memorial.

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  2. Concerned Virginian says:

    GODDA%M, there’s GW Bush going on about the DIGNITY and HONOR of the Presidency—only ONE of the DIRECT slaps to President Trump. This speech is a capsulation of the HATRED the Bushes have for the Trumps.

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    • litlbit2 says:

      IMO, not just the Trump’s but anyone or body threatening their, swamp, power structure set up.

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    • It like the name we do not speak funeral all over again. Bet you can google quotes that repeat.

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    • Roger Duroid says:

      PDJT is president and low energy jeb! Is not, so there is that.

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    • roy1982blog says:

      President Trump is the only one of the presidents in the room (dead or alive) that HAS treated the office with “respect and dignity.” Maybe W. Was talking to the others 🤔

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      • AmericaFirst says:

        President Trump is definitely the only President in the last 50 years who has treated AMERICAN Citizens with any respect or dignity. Us.

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      • dogueluv says:

        President Trump is the first President in my lifetime to fight for the people who elected him. He is taking all these slings and arrows for us, including the people who don’t know he is fighting for them. Dignity and honor come with keeping your promises, and President Trump is doing everything he said he was going to do.

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        • kyblue says:

          I absolutely agree.

          President Trump is a street fighter. If someone attacks him, he comes back twice as hard. Exactly what we need. Plus, he attempts to keep his promises.

          I got so annoyed with George the Second for ignoring the assassination of his character. He acted with dignity befitting the office *rolling eyes*. No the office was belittled because of his silence. He thinks history will deem him. No, history is written by the victors.

          And don’t get me started on Laura. I thought her a rather benign First Lady til she directed her venom towards PT for the ridiculous children in cages on the border angle.

          If she didn’t know Obama did ithe cage thing, she must be one of the many uninformed who watch the MSM.

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    • Not watching , but perhaps GW might also be referring to GHWB’s immediate successor ( seating in the front row) who was getting BJs in the Oval Office…i’m sure no MSM will make that connection…

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      • rightmover says:

        Sorry, but he isn’t talking about Clinton, whom he has referred to as his “brother from another mother.”

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      • G3 says:

        And, the other couple that had weekly Hump Day Dance Parties and stated “Police Officers acted stupidly”.

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      • straightstreet says:

        I did not watch. I have seen 2 pictures though. One of the front row pew. Obama with his conceited nose stuck straight up in the air with Michelle slouched in her seat next to him in a pin stripe pant suit (like a man). Other pic was that same first row pew with others reading (?) while our beloved President and beautiful first lady were not actively participating.

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        • Jenevive says:

          Well I at least give President O and Michelle credit for shaking
          POTUS and FLOTUS hand and Michelle even cracked a smile.
          Hillary sat there stone faced staring straight ahead never
          acknowledging them and I give POTUS credit for shaking Obama hand
          all things considered.

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    • TPW says:

      I really didn’t take that as a personal insult to PT. I think we have become ultra sensitive..I know I have….

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      • singingsoul says:

        TPW says:
        “I really didn’t take that as a personal insult to PT. I think we have become ultra sensitive..I know I have….”
        ________________________________________
        Neither did I

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        • NC Patriot says:

          No and actually Bill Clinton looked his way with a slight smile and a slight head nod. Since POTUS was seated, a hand shake wasn’t practical.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      W said he wasn’t going to comment after she left the presidency. And he allowed Obama to cr@p all over him.

      Oh look… once Obama left office and Trump was in the presidency W started speaking again.

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    • b rb says:

      Concerned Virginian If U look for hate, U generally find it.
      Mr. Sundance I have read enough of this article & post for today. Hope the next one is more pleasant. I almost thought I was on a shaming alphabet media. Mean spired bunch here.Hope tomorrows posts ars better.

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    • Shadrach says:

      Pres HW Bush requested that there be no demeaning the Office of the President at his funeral. It seems he didn’t think much of the McCain PDJT Trump-bashing extravaganza either.

      Therefore I suspect Pres W Bush was reminding people of his father’s request to respect the office at his funeral, and not bashing its current occupant. He liked his father, by all accounts, and bashing PDJT would disrespect his father and go against his wishes.

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      • Jenevive says:

        I do wonder if some of this nice, nice from the Bush family
        was for POTUS standing up for and standing by Justice K
        who was a Bush Jr guy. Any other Republican President would
        have either pulled the nomination or ask Justice K to step aside.
        but POTUS stood up for him so maybe this is the Bushes way of
        showing thier appreciation for that.

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    • Crabby says:

      You are reading into what GW said. I think this was ALL about his dad – not President Trump. Patricians take honor and dignity seriously and they are emphasizing it. that is all no comparisons.

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    • litlbit2 says:

      Amazing what we the people are unaware of covered over what people think is responsive journalism. IMO, also makes all, yes all reporters, media outlets, owners accomplists of these evil crimes.

      Question, would seriously like to current status, judge to hear, time frame, attorneys involved etc if possible.

      Eyes wide shut? Thanks agte.

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    • WELLL AgentCommonSense…that is going to put something dirty in someone’s shorts…
      Wonder WHO it will be? OOOOOH MY!!! Good Find!!!

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  3. burnett044 says:

    There is not enuff turd polish in all the world to shine the Bush clan up for me to watch this.

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    • FofBW says:

      Bush is answering to a higher power.

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      • WiVoter says:

        Man judges on the outward but God judges the inner man. Maybe George HW Bush is in Heaven or maybe he is in Hell. Whichever place he went, it will be the right place because God isn’t fooled by the world’s pretty speeches and funny stories. I’d think Bush 41 was perfect listening to this funeral service but I know nothing said today will sway the Righteous Judge.

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        • TPW says:

          At least the politician from Canada who spoke mentioned Bush’s part in NAFTA and that the current Administration was modernizing and improving…try trashed it…..I was wondering with all the pontificating by Pundits funny how NAFTA was never mentioned at least to my knowledge.If anyone ever doubted Politics is an insiders game…just look at the Bush’s….Son governor of Texas and a son governor of Florida,,,,how strategic. During Campaign Debate Bush the elder must have forgotten how nice he was when he did the slash throat gesture…..in his defense though…..Trump did not hold back in going after Jeb. Strategically …..Donald Trump had to get rid of him quickly BIGLY……

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      • KittyKat says:

        A thought that just occurred to me is that HW Bush and W both supported being allies with KSA, and on that point, President Trump aligns with them.

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        • lolli says:

          I really don’t think so. KSA has changed leadership since Bush. DS does not approve of Salman. Hence, all the Kershoggi nonsense.
          Bush family globalists.
          Wish they would get out of Texas. And take the Canadian with them.

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          • KittyKat says:

            But when KSA was under a different king, President Bush still got slammed for supporting Saudis, after 9/11. Remember the picture of him holding hands with Saudi leaders? I’ve been starting to wonder if DS does not support KSA under any circumstances.

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            • lolli says:

              Oh Ya. So true. Just saying I don’t think the current leadership of kSA is DS approved. The Bush family, like them or not, are pure self admitted globalists, so I don’t think they would approve of Salman.
              But you are so right.

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    • BURNETTO44…I AM LITERALLY SITTING HERE AT MY DESK LMAO AND CLEANING OFF MY SCREEN!!!!!!! DAMN!!!!!!!!!

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  4. litlbit2 says:

    Another story on the corrupt state of affairs in California. Tomorrow the fifty-two remaining states?

    Pray someone has a answer.

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  5. Concerned Virginian says:

    GOD HELP US, now the DEAN of the cathedral is going on about “it’s not about political party, it’s about what is good” meme.
    This event today is a REAL PROOF of the INNER STRENGTH of President Trump. May the Almighty preserve and defend him.

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    • Niagara Frontier says:

      God help our President! He may have to sit through four more of these before his two terms are up.

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    • G3 says:

      Hillary’s head started bobbing. No. No. It’s not about political party. It’s about “ a Kinder, Gentler Country”…. & the NWO.

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    • wyntre says:

      I must have been watching a different funeral from everyone else. The last speaker (from Houston?) mostly spoke about Christ and religion as seems appropriate.

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    • singingsoul says:

      Concerned Virginian says:
      “GOD HELP US, now the DEAN of the cathedral is going on about “it’s not about political party, it’s about what is good” meme.
      This event today is a REAL PROOF of the INNER STRENGTH of President Trump. May the Almighty preserve and defend him.”
      ______________________________________________________
      The Dean of the Cathedral was right. President Trump is a good man and it is the ex Presidents and Congress and FBO and DOJ who made political.
      POTUS is willing to work with the democrats but they are not good people.

      Where is the insult towards President Trump unless anyone here thinks POTUS is not a good man..?
      Today was a day for Bush family honoring their father the rest is trimming.

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  6. Dora says:

    Democrats really do love Republicans — when they’re dead

    He was a patriot, a hero, a ­genial gentleman and a great American. You can’t pick up a newspaper or go near a television without hearing leftists gush with praise for the late President George H.W. Bush. Who knew they felt this way?

    And you are not mistaken if the outpouring of previously unknown affection for the first President Bush sounds familiar. That’s because it is almost identical to the loving send-off the same suspects gave Sen. John McCain after he died in August

    https://nypost.com/2018/12/04/democrats-really-do-love-republicans-when-theyre-dead/

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    • mr.piddles says:

      These affairs give Them an opportunity to compare and contrast, but not so much for constructive purposes. There was life before President Donald J. Trump. And there’s life after President Donald J. Trump. Lots of folks don’t like that wrinkle in time, and they take advantage of any and all opportunities to publicly express their quiet disappointment and disdain for all things related.

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  7. NJF says:

    Interesting thread.

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    • WeThePeople2016 says:

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  8. amanda4321 says:

    Dick Morris: How Dems Stole Seven House Seats in California
    https://www.westernjournal.com/dick-morris-dems-stole-seven-house-seats-california/

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  9. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  10. duchess01 says:

    News | The White House – 12/01 to 12/04/2018

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/news/

    Please Check Back for Updates – Thank You!

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  11. Concerned Virginian says:

    The person at this service I truly feel badly about is Mr. Baker. He broke down when the Dean talked about how Mr. Baker was there at the end for GHW Bush and rubbed his feet just before Pres. Bush passed away.

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  12. Maggiemoowho says:

    This Bush funeral is just ridiculous, wrap it up already. People have things to do, like hang Christmas lights or run a country. BTW, my thoughts and prayers go out to all those sitting there who have to pee.

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    • Concerned Virginian says:

      While I agree that it’s run on too long, I will add that our service orchestras, choruses and soloists, and bands are SECOND TO NONE compared to, say, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and to any professional orchestra or band. Just about all of the members of our service military musical units have professional music degrees and could have, and in some cases, did “make it” as professionals before joining the military musical units.

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      • 🍺Gunny66 says:

        And a thank you to our President for providing such an equisite ceremony.

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        • wyntre says:

          It was spectacular – for a funeral.

          I had no problem with any of it but then I watched mostly on C-Span sans bobblehead idioracy. Also I watched an hour of it at the gym so maybe I was in a good mood?

          The only thing I found the slightest bit grating was when GWB referenced all the former presidents and their wives, collectively, and didn’t single out President Trump as the current CIC, but that’s probably just me.

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      • ByrdDeplorable says:

        So true, ConcernedVirginian. They are outstanding. I remember the military choir at Nixon’s funeral standing with the beautiful blue sky behind them and singing with such beauty. Tears in my eyes.
        And, if you’ve been in the National Cathredral, you know the cold, emptiness that you cannot avoid feeling. Political correctness kills the spirit and the soul.

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    • elmo says:

      It’s still shorter than Mccain’s.

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  13. cycle1 says:

    After the Homily, Michael W. Smith did a very nice version of his “Friends are Friends 4ever” song with the choir.

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  14. amanda4321 says:

    Good overview here on CIA and drug trafficking. Probably still going on today.

    https://www.corbettreport.com/the-cia-and-the-drug-trade/

    The association between Skull and Bones and the American intelligence establishment from the OSS to the CIA is well-established by now, with a litany of agents, directors, and of course Director of Central Intelligence, George “Poppy” Bush himself, having been Bonesmen before being recruited for the agency. But the connection between the CIA and the international drug trade is not simply a historical one about 19th century opium traders.

    Just as the British empire was in part financed by their control of the opium trade through the British East India Company, so too has the CIA been found time after time to be at the heart of the modern international drug trade.

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  15. Sporty says:

    I am sure glad I’m not in the front row of that funeral sitting next to a treacherous traitor like O.

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  16. Newman says:

    This Funeral for Bush the elder might as well be a funeral for the entire Bush Clan….they are all dead to me anyway. Good riddance

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  17. be says:

    Well there goes one world order.
    God is in charge. Believe it.

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  18. Marian says:

    I watched some of Bush funeral service. It wasn’t that bad. Basic church service with some .extra eulogies.. Were there digs? I took it as simply being a perspective of George HW’s life. The music selection was lovely. Whether you liked Bush or not, he had love ones who were both grieving and celebrating over his life.

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  19. jackphatz says:

    I’m not watching any of this nor did I watch the McCain Epic.

    I did find this on Twitter. I liked Dole, just something about his personally that I liked. I know many of you may have seen this but this just really tugged at my heart.

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    • cycle1 says:

      He could not use his right hand because of his war wounds. He really wanted to get up from his wheelchair and salute a farewell to his oft competitor.

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    • Louisiana Tea Rose says:

      THIS. RIGHT. HERE. This is a photo, a moment, an example, of an American Patriot. This is the type of Hero I truly admire. He was a flawed man, too, like many of the leaders who are disparaged intermittently in the Treehouse.

      I grew up listening to Bob Dole in the well of the Senate, and Reagan, and GHWB, and Newt Gingrich, and all the Conservative leaders through the 80’s and 90’s. Great men. And flawed men. But I do my best to consider each thru the prism of the conservative ideal, and temper my judgement. Because they are men, of Man. And they put themselves out there, got in the trench, and they served.

      How many of us could best their worst? We will ALL be judged in time.

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      • cycle1 says:

        Beautifully said, Tea Rose.

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      • bflyjesusgrl says:

        Thank you LTRose. Like Simpson said, “Hate corrodes the container it’s in.” I’ll add unforgiveness does too. All Believers in Christ will wind up together one day.
        GHWB was fundamentally a good man, husband, father, grandfather, and friend. He was also a President and war hero. I’d like to think that as a human being he did the best he could do at the time. I have sympathy for those who loved him and are mourning his loss.

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    • Zippy says:

      Wow, 95 years old. I didn’t even realize he was still around.

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    • cycle1 says:

      This is from Wikipedia:

      “…Dole was badly wounded by German machine gun fire, being hit in his upper back and right arm. As Lee Sandlin describes, when fellow soldiers saw the extent of his injuries, all they thought they could do was to “give him the largest dose of morphine they dared and write an ‘M’ for ‘morphine’ on his forehead in his own blood, so that nobody else who found him would give him a second, fatal dose.”[10]”

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      • JMC says:

        Furthermore, Dole was thought to be destined for certain death. So the doctors were allowed to try something on him that was still in the experimental stage. It was a new antibiotic drug called “penicillin”.

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    • LeastInterestingManInTheWorld says:

      He’s from a time, not that long ago when men were men. God Bless this American.

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      • listingstarboard says:

        My thoughts exactly–The Greatest Generation. It sickens me how many of our best and brightest have laid down their lives for our freedoms–and how many ungrateful POS there are in this country.

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  20. President Bush skydived at age 90, hated broccoli, and was best friends with Bill Clinton.

    ”I do not like broccoli,” said the President, “and I haven’t liked it since I was a little kid and my mother made me eat it. And I’m President of the United States and I’m not going to eat any more broccoli.”

    When he was President, Bush banned broccoli from Air Force One.

    https://brassballs.blog/home/president-bush-skydived-at-age-90-hated-broccoli-and-was-best-friends-with-bill-clinton

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  21. More Covfefe Please says:

    Please check out the following article in the Federalist:

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/12/04/10-reasons-time-fire-rod-rosenstein/

    The author summarizes what I have been trying to say for sometime in my own clumsy way. Rod Rosenstein has been a snake all along. His placement as deputy AG was either an example of gross negligence or a part of a conspiracy by the deep state.

    PT indicated it was Sessions idea as I remember from a while back. This is why I conclude that Sessions did not know what he was doing and completely blind to any corruption by DOJ or anywhere else in government.

    Also, anytime you read that AG Sessions said he was going to investigate illegal activity, like the leaking of the Flynn tapes, you better keep in mind that he is not doing anything, or he that he will agree with Obama DOJ people when they tell him there is nothing to see here.

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  22. Grant says:

    Did President Trump make a speech about George HW Bush this morning? I sorta missed some of the funeral.

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  23. fleporeblog says:

    The Democrats always get punched in the mouth whenever they think they can take on our Lion and his policies! Good luck voting down the USMCA.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 38% of Likely U.S. Voters say the new trade agreement will be better for the United States than NAFTA, while 22% think it will be worse. Twenty-six percent (26%) feel the economic impact will be about the same, and another 15% are not sure.

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  25. Do Stop Thinking About Tomorrow says:

    I was shaking down a TV Room looking for Inmate contraband the news was playing and I heard President George H. W. Bush say at the time when asked about the economy. “We are not in a Recession,” I said well there goes that election. He was clueless. Just think after sending 8 years at the master’s knees and learned nothing. But Hey he started the US down the road to a “Service” Economy. Just look at what 40 years of that policy has produced. Thanks, 41 all the middle class just loved that sucking sound of jobs leaving.

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  27. G3 says:

    As the media points outs motocade—-Who was that az-hat that shut down the War Memorial during the Gov. Shut Down? It was like the first thing he made certain to close to punish the Greatest Generation.

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  28. I am first and foremost a Trump supporter 100%. But I have come to this day as a political science major and a junkie of all things political. So I have watched today’s funeral for GHWB from that angle. As the first President I was legally allowed to vote for, and did, he has an important place in my history and in our country’s history. All of our Presidents have, whether I liked them or not. I have tremendous respect for the office regardless of who resides in it because in that office is not just a man. Sure it is a man, or woman, but there is much more that goes into that office than just one person, and it is that one person who personifies the principals of democracy.

    Now of course, we are a Representative republic, but I use the term democracy in that it is the fact that We the People choose what man or woman sits in that office. And it is by our Constitution that the Office of the Presidency is far more important than just the man or woman who occupies it.

    This may surprise some of you, but even as an avid Clinton hater, I was 100% against the impeachment proceedings against him during his presidency. I felt it was an attack on our democratic process and our Constitution. It allowed a civilian to throw a wrench into his duties of office and actually embarrassed our great nation, and in my opinion, put us at great risk from our enemies having our Commander in Chief distracted and possibly compromised by the trial. Don’t get me wrong, no President is above the law, but this was a civil lawsuit and could have waited till he was out of office. The impeachment proceedings further brought our country down and if anything did a lot more harm than good. It energized Clinton’s popularity and gave us nothing in return. It is also used as an arguably valid defense for exactly what they are doing to Trump today. I always felt it was a bad idea.

    But here we are at the passing of another President. Every single president in history, as is every man and woman, has done good things and bad, and at the end of their life, there will be judgments made in looking back on their lives by those of us on earth and of course, the One above. But when it comes to a man who served his country at the highest level, proper respect and honor needs to be placed on him for what he represented, which is We the People. So when I see all of the former presidents there with their wives, and the fact that our President withstood standing there with those who hate him, knowing the media is trashing him, he put honor above politics and even personal feelings, even above the law. Because no matter what anyone thought of GHWD, each one of those men standing there will also some day be in a very similar box, in this very same place. And by them simply seated together there with dignity and grace, I am heartened by the fact that even in the midst of such great rancor, spite, viciousness, and hate, we, as a nation, can still pause and reflect.

    So who knows what tomorrow will bring for any of these men (or their wives…HRC) in the coming days, weeks, months, years, but today, we stand as one, proud of our country, and our Constitution, knowing it is the greatest on earth. And so blessed to know that we are in such capable and strong hands with the greatest president of all time, Donald John Trump.

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    • recoverydotgod says:

      I agree. Classy of George W. to shake everyone’s hands.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Post of the day!

      I thought the ceremony and respect shown to 41 was outstanding. We should all feel pride in a Country that can come together as all those attending the service did.

      Even my little Westie was moved to sing with the choir…

      A beautiful ceremony, heart warming eulogies with smiles and laughter at the end of watch for a man who served his Country.

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    • blognificentbee says:

      Well stated, thank you.

      Today I am filled with happiness that I am blessed to be an American. Having just returned from a trip to Colonial Williamsburg, my malaise after the midterms is replaced with a patriotic commitment to do every single thing I can to MAGA.

      Today I am also very thankful to have Donald Trump as our President. Seeing him sit among Criminals’ Row at out national cathedral reminded me of why he won in 2016. There’s a meme that I have that is his picture and reads “Sh*t Like This Is Why I Won.” A picture of that front row today fits that meme perfectly.

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    • Great comment – I agree with your sentiments, but on a human level. It is the funeral of a former president and man who served his country at the highest levels. The ultimate judgments of men are made by God. Today, we pay proper respect and honor to a great man. It’s a testament to the American way that “even in the midst of such great rancor, spite, viciousness, and hate, we, as a nation, can still pause and reflect.”

      But we can honor GWH Bush as a man without honoring his ideological legacy. The reality is, there are now two “nations” within the U.S. that will simply not be able to coexist peaceably for more than 2-3 more decades. These two ideological camps have different values and worldviews. and start from radically different assumptions. The left/globalist/multiculti/Cultural Marxist side pretends to honor tolerance, but in reality, they are virulently intolerant and so they’ve already been taking the war to us for decades.

      We still have opportunities, as a society, to chart a course toward a non-violent, partial separation of these ideological camps (the alternatives will mostly be bloody). Unfortunately, though, these types of political ceremonies, e.g. state funerals, where both sides (pretend to?) pay proper respect and honor and come together to pause and reflect will be history 30 years from now.

      And it won’t be GHW Bush fault – he’s one man that endeavored to serve his country. It won’t be the fault of any other good or bad (flawed) individuals across the country. It will be caused by a profound ideological schism. And the one ungenerous thing I am comfortable saying about GHW Bush on this day of his funeral is that he was on the wrong side of history and on the dark side of this simmering ideological war.

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      • Prettyplease says:

        Ideology, my foot! What we’re dealing with here is the war between good and evil. I can agree that George Herbert Walker Bush was definitely on the wrong side of that.

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  29. Lucille says:

    Remember when President Trump mentioned that potentially very bad stuff was and would continue to happen in South Africa and the dems/progs/lefties said he was lying?

    South Africa’s High Court Clears Way for Expropriation of White-Owned Land!!!
    Dr. Steve Turley

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  30. Publius2016 says:

    Crooked didnt SNUB 45 or Melania…Crooked wasnt wearing her Glasses! So she couldnt see anything…

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  31. G3 says:

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  32. Troublemaker10 says:

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  33. Dora says:

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  34. Rudy says:

    I find it disgusting to be lectured about the office of President of these United States by one of the four stooges…Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Zero…about the ‘respect and dignity’ of ANYTHING, much less that.
    Gag, spit.

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  35. Doppler says:

    I think President Trump earned HW’s due respect when he secured Justice Kavanaugh’s confirmation, a big win for Team Bush and the country, a very close question, and the awful partisan tactics on the other side a strong unifying force for the entire Republican Party in the midterms. Also, when he campaigned tirelessly to increase the Senate lead. The rest of the family and the GOP dynasty they represent were treated with great respect by the President this week.

    President Trump is working hard to earn every American’s respect, bringing reinforcements to join his base, starting with the Republican Party establishment, and conservative Walk awayers from the Dem base, but intending to make that a very big tent going forward. His greatest days are ahead. Let us not begrudge him new allies, wherever they come from.

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  36. Dora says:

    She obviously doesn’t think much of her sons.

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  37. This is just hilarious!

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  38. Redhotrugmama says:

    Sad. Low energy Jeb missed phone call about his dad because he was asleep

    https://nypost.com/2018/12/05/jeb-bush-missed-call-about-dads-death-because-he-was-asleep-brother/amp/

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  39. vikingmom says:

    Whatever my thoughts on George HW Bush and George W Bush, and their respective legacies as President, I was impressed with the honor and respect shown both to the office and to the individual man today, as a husband, father, and Patriot who served his country with honor during WWII.

    The contrast between today and the petty, vindictive service that John McCain’s family orchestrated, with his full blessing, I am sure, simply confirms that he was not an honorable man, nor an true Patriot.

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    • KittyKat says:

      I don’t know if HW Bush was devout, but I do know that W keeps his Bible close at hand, consults with it regularly, and I respect him for that. President W has had to do a lot of “forgiving of his enemies” as has President Trump.

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    • KittyKat says:

      like

      If he’d emptied his heart of vindictiveness and hate he might have lived longer.

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    • apfelcobbler says:

      44 needs to get that upper neck tick treated before it becomes permanent!

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    • webgirlpdx says:

      I enjoyed all of it because I love these traditions. I also was struck how beautiful it was watching a President-Son watching over and accompanying a President-Father every step of the way. And all of our beautiful military men and women.

      America at its very best.

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      • NC Patriot says:

        It was beautifully ceremonial——my only objection was the 6-8 times playing “Hail to the Chief” with the 21 gun salute (and there will likely be two more tomorrow)—–EVERY time the coffin moved ANYWHERE. But I thought the other music, both religious and patriotic, was beautiful.

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        • webgirlpdx says:

          Yes, NCPat….beautifully ceremonial 🙂

          I heard something interesting earlier in the week. That they start planning a President’s funeral almost as soon as he’s inaugurated. Apparently they start the conversation of their wishes.

          Can you imagine the disdain Hag will have when Bill has to be buried in Arkansas. No wonder she looked so pi$$ed today. She was probably thinking about she’s going to have to go there too. LOL

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  40. fred5678 says:

    Vanity Fair: Trump-haters will be disappointed with Mueller report

    “Those who hope that Mueller reveals a shambolic operation with a lot of rascals engaged in sleazy and embarrassing behavior will be happy with the fruits of his labors. But those who hope for an unveiling of indictments linking Putin and Trump in a grand conspiracy have no more reason to celebrate than they did a week or a month ago.”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/12/a-trump-haters-guide-to-mueller-skepticism

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    • lurker2 says:

      The DOJ is leaking to Vanity Fair now? Are we to expect the Mueller report soon? And they’re trying to gently deflate the expectations of the libtards?

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  41. Tl Howard says:

    I understand loyalty. Most of us here are exceptionally loyal to President Trump. We understand the magnitude of the job he has undertaken and we hurt for him when we see him take the arrows from so many who surround him.

    It saddens me today to read so many comments full of vitriol to not one, but two former POTUSes.
    I feel many here are as full of hate as are those who attack our present POTUS.

    George Bush 1 loved and served his country in many ways. I’m not even going to bother listing them, they’re so obvious.

    That some of you can’t find it in your heart and through your patriotism to show him respect upon his death sickens me.

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    • G. Combs says:

      “…George Bush 1 loved and served his country….”
      That is the problem.

      Many of us are sadden that he and his son BETRAYED our country. We can honor the office but despise a man who deliberately worked against the best interests of his country. NAFTA and the WTO were originated by George Bush 1 and just like with the Federal Reserve, when a republican could not get it through congress it was then handed off to a democrat to do the dirty deed.

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  42. Linda K. says:

    Hillary and Bill Clinton did not acknowledge President Trump and Melania in the Cathedral when Trump tried to shake hands with them.I’m sorry, but Haha and so glad we dodged the Clinton bullet.

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  43. patrickhenrycensored says:

    Sessions hints he’s done with politics
    Sessions has told former colleagues that running for the Senate could be seen as a demotion after serving in Trump’s Cabinet.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/sessions-hints-hes-done-with-politics/ar-BBQxGRH?ocid=spartanntp

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  44. Sentient says:

    There’s one death I’m really celebrating today… The Weakly Standard.

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    • listingstarboard says:

      And guess who is probably footing the bill–the good ole US TAxpayer. Will soon be yellow vest time here.

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    • lurker2 says:

      There are thousands of people trying to get in. You’re going to complain about one?

      Your comment, and the first response to it, are examples of Eeyore-ism.

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  45. duchess01 says:

    Mike Pompeo RIPS 🔴 into Trump EU NATO and UN Critics at Speech in Brussels

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  46. Katherine McCoun says:

    This makes me sick to my stomach. We are either a country of laws or we are not. We either have a border and our immigrations laws are enforced or we are not a country. Our citizenry is at risk as our borders are porous. So discouraging that a GOP congress did not pass the $ to build the wall

    Immigrate legally in a sustainable way through a merit based system. Build the Wall & Enforce the Law!

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/ungrateful-honduran-illegal-migrant-who-complained-about-mexican-pig-food-is-seen-dining-in-dallas-texas/

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