President Trump Meets With Jim Brown and Kanye West in The Oval Office…

Earlier today President Trump met with Jim Brown and Kanye West in the Oval Office for a discussion about multiple issues involving social policy, mental health, endorsement deals, stop-and-frisk policies and support among African Americans for the president.

[Transcript] Oval Office – 12:32 P.M. EDT – THE PRESIDENT: Jon, you know Jim Brown? The greatest of all time.

Q It’s an honor, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: And what people don’t know, Kanye — everybody knows, right? Every — does the world know Kanye? Kanye, what people don’t know about Jim — they say — first of all, he’s the best football player. But they say he was an even better lacrosse player. Do you think so?

MR. BROWN: Never thought about it.

THE PRESIDENT: Huh?

MR. BROWN: Never thought about it.

THE PRESIDENT: I heard he was even — at Syracuse.

MR. BROWN: I love the game. Yes, I loved it. I loved all the sports.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, it’s great to have you, Jim. Great to have you.

MR. BROWN: It’s good to be here, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Kanye, it’s great to be with you.

MR. WEST: Great to be here.

THE PRESIDENT: And these are two friends of mine. And Kanye has been a friend of mine for a long time. And Jim is — Jim came out of nowhere, and he said, “I like what the President is doing.” A long time ago we met. Right? And I just appreciated it very much.

And, you know, if you look at the employment numbers, if you look at the median income, if you look at every single indicator, we’re keeping our promise, Jim. Thank you. And I want to thank you.

MR. BROWN: And I like North Korea.

THE PRESIDENT: I like North Korea too.

MR. BROWN: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. Yeah. Well, he’s — turned out to be good. Dialogue. We had a little dialogue. And Secretary of State just came back — Mike. He just came back from North Korea. We had very good meetings, and we’ll meet again. But we’re doing good. No more nuclear testing. No more missiles going up. No more nothing. And it’s — that was headed to war. That was headed to war.

MR. BROWN: Yeah. I mean, it was — to me, it seemed like that.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. It was so close. We spoke — I spoke to President Obama. I will tell you, that was headed to war. And now it’s going to be — I believe it’s going to work out very well.

MR. WEST: You stopped the war —

THE PRESIDENT: We really stopped the war. Saved millions of lives. You know, Seoul has 30 million people. You don’t realize how big. Thirty million people who are right near the border; 30 miles off the border. Millions of people would have been killed. And I will say, Chairman Kim has been really good. Really good. And we’ve made a lot of progress.

That’s nice that you say that, because that’s a big — that’s a big thing. These folks were covering — they were covering North Korea not — I think not very promisingly. And there were a lot of problems. President Obama said that was his biggest problem. And I don’t say anything is solved —

MR. WEST: You, day one, solved one of the biggest problems.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.

MR. WEST: We solved one of the biggest problems.

THE PRESIDENT: It was a big solving. And not solved yet, but I think we’re along — I think we’re on the way.

MR. BROWN: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: No, no. It’s — we’re well on our way.

MR. BROWN: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: In a short period of time, Jim. Very short period of time. You know, I left Singapore three months ago. And we’ve made a lot of progress. So it’s very good. Hey, look, that’s one of many things. But I appreciate everything with you.

I’ll tell you what — Kim was in. Mrs. Johnson, we got her out. She was very unfairly treated. And there are many other people like that, that —

MR. WEST: Yeah, we have Larry Hoover’s lawyer with us today. And it’s a prisoner that was focused on — he has six life sentences, and they have him next to the Unabomber doing 23 and 1. That means —

THE PRESIDENT: What did he do? Larry? What happened?

MR. MOORE: Why was he in?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, tell me. Tell us.

MR. MOORE: Allegedly, it’s for conspiracy from prison — from state prison. You know, it’s alleged. But we do believe even if he did commit those crimes, the sentence was overly broad and too strict.

THE PRESIDENT: What was the sentence?

MR. MOORE: Six consecutive life sentences in the most secure prison in the world, also known as “a clean version of hell,” for basically an economic crime.

MR. WEST: What prison is that? Name the prison.

MR. MOORE: ADX supermax, in Florence, Colorado. They house the Unabomber, al Qaeda operatives, mass killers, Oklahoma City bomber, things of that nature.

THE PRESIDENT: How old is he? How old?

MR. MOORE: Sixty-eight.

THE PRESIDENT: Sixty-eight years old?

MR. MOORE: Yes, 68 years old.

MR. WEST: And really, the reason why they imprisoned him is because he started doing positive for the community. He started showing that he actually had power, that he wasn’t just one of a monolithic voice, but he could wrap people around.

So there’s theories that there’s infinite amounts of universe and there’s alternate universe. So it’s very important for me to get Hoover out, because in an alternate universe, I am him. And I have to go and get him free because he was doing positive inside of Chicago, just like how I’m moving back to Chicago and it’s not just about, you know, getting on stage and being an entertainer and having a monolithic voice that’s forced to be a specific party.

You know, people expect that if you’re black you have to be Democrat. I have a — I’ve had conversations that basically said that welfare is the reason why a lot of black people end up being Democrat. They say — you know, first of all, it’s a limited amount of jobs. So the fathers lose the jobs, and they say, “We’ll give you more money for having more kids in your home.” And then, we got rid of the mental health institutes in the ‘80s and the ‘90s, and the prison rates just shot up.

And now you have “Chiraq,” what people call “Chiraq” — which is actually — our murder rate is going down by 20 percent every year. I just talked to the superintendent; met with Michael Sacks; that’s Rahm’s right-hand man. So I think it’s the bravery that helps you beat this game called life.

You know, they tried to scare me to not wear this hat — my own friends. But this hat, it gives me — it gives me power, in a way. You know, my dad and my mom separated, so I didn’t have a lot of male energy in my home. And also, I’m married to a family that — (laughs) — you know, not a lot of male energy going on. It’s beautiful, though. But there’s times where, you know, there’s something about — you know, I love Hillary. I love everyone, right? But the campaign “I’m with her” just didn’t make me feel, as a guy, that didn’t get to see my dad all the time — like a guy that could play catch with his son. It was something about when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman. You made a Superman. That was my — that’s my favorite superhero. And you made a Superman cape.

For me, also as a guy that looks up to you, looks up to Ralph Lauren, looks up to American industry guys — non-political, no bullshit — put the beep on it, however you want to do it, five seconds delay — and just goes in and gets it done.

Right now, you gave me the heart to go to Adidas. Because at Adidas, when I went in, in 2015, we were a $14-billion company losing $2 billion a year. Now we have a $38-billion market cap. It’s called the “Yeezy effect.”

And I went to Casper. We had a meeting in Chicago. And I said, “You have to bring manufacturing onshore.” And not even shore; into the core. It’s not about the border; it’s the core of Adidas. And Chicago is the core of Middle America. And we have to make Middle America strong.

So I had the balls — because I have enough balls to put on this hat. I mean, this Adidas thing made be a billionaire. And I could have lost $200 million walking away from that deal. But even with that, I knew it was more important for me to take the chance of walking away from that deal than to have no fathers in Chicago with no homes. And when we do have prison reformation, for no — because it’s habilitation, not rehabilitation, because they didn’t have the abilities in the first place. We never had anyone that taught us. They didn’t teach us. Exactly — we had no one that “taught” us. Right?

So it’s more important than any specific deal — anything — that we bring jobs into America, and that we provide a transition with mental health and the Amer-I-Can education curriculum that Jim has worked on. Larry Hoover also has a curriculum that he’s worked on. We have Montessori curriculums that we worked on. WeWork has a beautiful curriculum. The Waldorf establishment has a curriculum. We have meditation. There’s a lot of things affecting our mental health that makes us do crazy things that puts us back into that trap door called the 13th Amendment.

I did say “abolish” with the hat on. Because why would you keep something around that’s a trap door? If you’re building a floor — the Constitution is the base of our industry, right? Of our country, of our company. Would you build a trap door that if you mess up and you — accidentally something happens, you fall and you end up next to the Unabomber? You end up — you got to remove all that trap door out of the relationship.

The four gentlemen that wrote the 13th Amendment — and I think the way the universe works, it’s perfect. We don’t have 13 floors, do we? You know, so the four — the four gentlemen that wrote the 13th Amendment didn’t look like the people they were amending. Also at that point, it was illegal for blacks to read — or African Americans to read. And so that meant if you actually read the Amendment, you would get locked up and turned into a slave.

Again — so what I think is, we don’t need sentences; we need pardons. We need to talk to people. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I was connected with a neuropsychologist that works with the athletes in the NBA and the NFL. And he looked at my brain — it’s equal on three parts. I’m going to go ahead drop some bombs for you — 98 percentile IQ test. I had a 75 percentile of all human beings, but it was counting eight numbers backwards, (inaudible), so I’m going to work on that one. The other ones, 98 percent — Tesla, Freud.

So he said that I actually wasn’t bipolar; I had sleep deprivation, which could cause dementia 10 to 20 years from now, where I wouldn’t even remember my son’s name. So all this power that I got, and I’m taking my son to the Sox game and all that, I wouldn’t be able to remember his name from a misdiagnosage.

And what we need is, we can empower the pharmaceuticals and make more money. That’s one thing — I’ve never stepped into a situation where I didn’t make people more money. So we can empower pharmaceuticals, we can empower our industries, we can empower our factories. We can bring not only Adidas onshore, we can bring — Foxconn has set up a factory in, I think, Minnesota.

Oval Office

12:32 P.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Jon, you know Jim Brown? The greatest of all time.

Q It’s an honor, sir.

THE PRESIDENT: And what people don’t know, Kanye — everybody knows, right? Every — does the world know Kanye? Kanye, what people don’t know about Jim — they say — first of all, he’s the best football player. But they say he was an even better lacrosse player. Do you think so?

MR. BROWN: Never thought about it.

THE PRESIDENT: Huh?

MR. BROWN: Never thought about it.

THE PRESIDENT: I heard he was even — at Syracuse.

MR. BROWN: I love the game. Yes, I loved it. I loved all the sports.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, it’s great to have you, Jim. Great to have you.

MR. BROWN: It’s good to be here, Mr. President.

THE PRESIDENT: Kanye, it’s great to be with you.

MR. WEST: Great to be here.

THE PRESIDENT: And these are two friends of mine. And Kanye has been a friend of mine for a long time. And Jim is — Jim came out of nowhere, and he said, “I like what the President is doing.” A long time ago we met. Right? And I just appreciated it very much.

And, you know, if you look at the employment numbers, if you look at the median income, if you look at every single indicator, we’re keeping our promise, Jim. Thank you. And I want to thank you.

MR. BROWN: And I like North Korea.

THE PRESIDENT: I like North Korea too.

MR. BROWN: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. Yeah. Well, he’s — turned out to be good. Dialogue. We had a little dialogue. And Secretary of State just came back — Mike. He just came back from North Korea. We had very good meetings, and we’ll meet again. But we’re doing good. No more nuclear testing. No more missiles going up. No more nothing. And it’s — that was headed to war. That was headed to war.

MR. BROWN: Yeah. I mean, it was — to me, it seemed like that.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. It was so close. We spoke — I spoke to President Obama. I will tell you, that was headed to war. And now it’s going to be — I believe it’s going to work out very well.

MR. WEST: You stopped the war —

THE PRESIDENT: We really stopped the war. Saved millions of lives. You know, Seoul has 30 million people. You don’t realize how big. Thirty million people who are right near the border; 30 miles off the border. Millions of people would have been killed. And I will say, Chairman Kim has been really good. Really good. And we’ve made a lot of progress.

That’s nice that you say that, because that’s a big — that’s a big thing. These folks were covering — they were covering North Korea not — I think not very promisingly. And there were a lot of problems. President Obama said that was his biggest problem. And I don’t say anything is solved —

MR. WEST: You, day one, solved one of the biggest problems.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.

MR. WEST: We solved one of the biggest problems.

THE PRESIDENT: It was a big solving. And not solved yet, but I think we’re along — I think we’re on the way.

MR. BROWN: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: No, no. It’s — we’re well on our way.

MR. BROWN: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: In a short period of time, Jim. Very short period of time. You know, I left Singapore three months ago. And we’ve made a lot of progress. So it’s very good. Hey, look, that’s one of many things. But I appreciate everything with you.

I’ll tell you what — Kim was in. Mrs. Johnson, we got her out. She was very unfairly treated. And there are many other people like that, that —

MR. WEST: Yeah, we have Larry Hoover’s lawyer with us today. And it’s a prisoner that was focused on — he has six life sentences, and they have him next to the Unabomber doing 23 and 1. That means —

THE PRESIDENT: What did he do? Larry? What happened?

MR. MOORE: Why was he in?

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, tell me. Tell us.

MR. MOORE: Allegedly, it’s for conspiracy from prison — from state prison. You know, it’s alleged. But we do believe even if he did commit those crimes, the sentence was overly broad and too strict.

THE PRESIDENT: What was the sentence?

MR. MOORE: Six consecutive life sentences in the most secure prison in the world, also known as “a clean version of hell,” for basically an economic crime.

MR. WEST: What prison is that? Name the prison.

MR. MOORE: ADX supermax, in Florence, Colorado. They house the Unabomber, al Qaeda operatives, mass killers, Oklahoma City bomber, things of that nature.

THE PRESIDENT: How old is he? How old?

MR. MOORE: Sixty-eight.

THE PRESIDENT: Sixty-eight years old?

MR. MOORE: Yes, 68 years old.

MR. WEST: And really, the reason why they imprisoned him is because he started doing positive for the community. He started showing that he actually had power, that he wasn’t just one of a monolithic voice, but he could wrap people around.

So there’s theories that there’s infinite amounts of universe and there’s alternate universe. So it’s very important for me to get Hoover out, because in an alternate universe, I am him. And I have to go and get him free because he was doing positive inside of Chicago, just like how I’m moving back to Chicago and it’s not just about, you know, getting on stage and being an entertainer and having a monolithic voice that’s forced to be a specific party.

You know, people expect that if you’re black you have to be Democrat. I have a — I’ve had conversations that basically said that welfare is the reason why a lot of black people end up being Democrat. They say — you know, first of all, it’s a limited amount of jobs. So the fathers lose the jobs, and they say, “We’ll give you more money for having more kids in your home.” And then, we got rid of the mental health institutes in the ‘80s and the ‘90s, and the prison rates just shot up.

And now you have “Chiraq,” what people call “Chiraq” — which is actually — our murder rate is going down by 20 percent every year. I just talked to the superintendent; met with Michael Sacks; that’s Rahm’s right-hand man. So I think it’s the bravery that helps you beat this game called life.

You know, they tried to scare me to not wear this hat — my own friends. But this hat, it gives me — it gives me power, in a way. You know, my dad and my mom separated, so I didn’t have a lot of male energy in my home. And also, I’m married to a family that — (laughs) — you know, not a lot of male energy going on. It’s beautiful, though. But there’s times where, you know, there’s something about — you know, I love Hillary. I love everyone, right? But the campaign “I’m with her” just didn’t make me feel, as a guy, that didn’t get to see my dad all the time — like a guy that could play catch with his son. It was something about when I put this hat on, it made me feel like Superman. You made a Superman. That was my — that’s my favorite superhero. And you made a Superman cape.

For me, also as a guy that looks up to you, looks up to Ralph Lauren, looks up to American industry guys — non-political, no bullshit — put the beep on it, however you want to do it, five seconds delay — and just goes in and gets it done.

Right now, you gave me the heart to go to Adidas. Because at Adidas, when I went in, in 2015, we were a $14-billion company losing $2 billion a year. Now we have a $38-billion market cap. It’s called the “Yeezy effect.”

And I went to Casper. We had a meeting in Chicago. And I said, “You have to bring manufacturing onshore.” And not even shore; into the core. It’s not about the border; it’s the core of Adidas. And Chicago is the core of Middle America. And we have to make Middle America strong.

So I had the balls — because I have enough balls to put on this hat. I mean, this Adidas thing made be a billionaire. And I could have lost $200 million walking away from that deal. But even with that, I knew it was more important for me to take the chance of walking away from that deal than to have no fathers in Chicago with no homes. And when we do have prison reformation, for no — because it’s habilitation, not rehabilitation, because they didn’t have the abilities in the first place. We never had anyone that taught us. They didn’t teach us. Exactly — we had no one that “taught” us. Right?

So it’s more important than any specific deal — anything — that we bring jobs into America, and that we provide a transition with mental health and the Amer-I-Can education curriculum that Jim has worked on. Larry Hoover also has a curriculum that he’s worked on. We have Montessori curriculums that we worked on. WeWork has a beautiful curriculum. The Waldorf establishment has a curriculum. We have meditation. There’s a lot of things affecting our mental health that makes us do crazy things that puts us back into that trap door called the 13th Amendment.

I did say “abolish” with the hat on. Because why would you keep something around that’s a trap door? If you’re building a floor — the Constitution is the base of our industry, right? Of our country, of our company. Would you build a trap door that if you mess up and you — accidentally something happens, you fall and you end up next to the Unabomber? You end up — you got to remove all that trap door out of the relationship.

The four gentlemen that wrote the 13th Amendment — and I think the way the universe works, it’s perfect. We don’t have 13 floors, do we? You know, so the four — the four gentlemen that wrote the 13th Amendment didn’t look like the people they were amending. Also at that point, it was illegal for blacks to read — or African Americans to read. And so that meant if you actually read the Amendment, you would get locked up and turned into a slave.

Again — so what I think is, we don’t need sentences; we need pardons. We need to talk to people. I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. I was connected with a neuropsychologist that works with the athletes in the NBA and the NFL. And he looked at my brain — it’s equal on three parts. I’m going to go ahead drop some bombs for you — 98 percentile IQ test. I had a 75 percentile of all human beings, but it was counting eight numbers backwards, (inaudible), so I’m going to work on that one. The other ones, 98 percent — Tesla, Freud.

So he said that I actually wasn’t bipolar; I had sleep deprivation, which could cause dementia 10 to 20 years from now, where I wouldn’t even remember my son’s name. So all this power that I got, and I’m taking my son to the Sox game and all that, I wouldn’t be able to remember his name from a misdiagnosage.

And what we need is, we can empower the pharmaceuticals and make more money. That’s one thing — I’ve never stepped into a situation where I didn’t make people more money. So we can empower pharmaceuticals, we can empower our industries, we can empower our factories. We can bring not only Adidas onshore, we can bring — Foxconn has set up a factory in, I think, Minnesota.

But you know what I don’t like about — it’s not that I don’t like — what I need Saturday Night Live to improve on, or what I need the liberals to improve on is, if he don’t look good, we don’t look good. This is our President.

THE PRESIDENT: It’s true.

MR. WEST: He has to be the freshest, the flyest, the flyest planes, the best factories. And we have to make our core be in power. We have to bring jobs into America because our best export is entertainment and ideas. But when we make everything in China and not in America, then we’re cheating on our country and we’re putting people in positions to have to do illegal things to end up in a cheapest factory ever: the prison system.

THE PRESIDENT: I’ll tell you what — that was pretty impressive, folks. (Laughter.) You know, I hate to say this — Jim, do you want to say something? (Laughter.) What do you after that?

PARTICIPANT: You don’t mind if I —

THE PRESIDENT: You are — please, Jim. Please.

MR. BROWN: If he doesn’t look good, we don’t look good.

THE PRESIDENT: Great, right? Isn’t that a great statement?

MR. BROWN: Yes, it is.

THE PRESIDENT: And it’s so true.

MR. BROWN: Makes a lot of sense.

THE PRESIDENT: As a country. It’s — very — I’ve never seen Jim Brown impressed before. (Laughter.) He was impressed. That’s true. That statement is amazing, huh?

MR. BROWN: Yeah, yeah. It makes a lot of sense.

THE PRESIDENT: I want to say it’s great to have you guys here. And we’re going to go and we’re going to have some lunch.

That was quite something. That was quite something.

MR. WEST: It was from the soul. I just channeled it.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah.

Q Can I just ask a quick question of Kanye?

THE PRESIDENT: Really very interesting.

Yes, yeah. Please.

Q So you had said, of President Bush, that he doesn’t care about black people. And you’ve heard some people say that about this President. What do you — how do you respond to that? What do you make of that?

MR. WEST: I think we need to care about all people. And I believe that when I went on to NBC, I was very emotional, and I was programmed to think from a victimized mentality. A welfare mentality.

I think that with blacks and African Americans, we really get caught up in the idea of racism over the idea of industry. We say if people don’t have land, they settle for brands. We want Polo-sporting Obama again. We want a brand more than we want land. Because we’ve haven’t known how it feels to actually have our own land and have ownership of our own blocks.

So when you don’t have ownership, then it’s all about how something looks. It’s about the patina; it’s not about the soul, it’s not about the core. So we focus more on, is somebody wearing something; is someone disrespecting so I got to shoot them. Or the idea of someone being racist.

You know, we talk about police murders, which we definitely have to discuss, and we have to bring nobility to the police officers and make — the police officers are just like us. But there’s this whole hate-building, right? And that’s a major thing about racial tension.

And we also, as black people, we have to take a responsibility for what we’re doing. We kill each other more than police officers. And that’s not saying that the police officer is not is not an issue, because they are in a place — a position of power. But sometimes they’re in a place of law enforcement. They need to be law-power. It’s force versus power. And when you — you shouldn’t have to force people to do that.

So a lot of times the police officer is sitting there, they’re being forced to do this and forced to do that block. And then they force somebody into something and force into something. We have to release the love throughout the entire country and give opportunities. A lot of times it’s just the overall lack of reparations that we, at any given point, we say, “Oh, this is racist. This is racist. This is racist. This is racist.”

So we don’t have reparations, but we have the 13th Amendment. We got to open up the whole conversation. So — and that’s a move. One of the moves that I love that liberals try to do — the liberal would try to control a black person through the concept of racism, because they know that we are very proud, emotional people. So when I said “I like Trump” to, like, someone that’s liberal, they’ll say, “Oh, but he’s racist.” You think racism could control me? Oh, that don’t stop me. That’s an invisible wall.

Q But you don’t think — you reject those who say he’s racist?

MR. WEST: On your question — and you had one question; we’re going to do it to another question.

Q (Laughs.) Okay.

MR. WEST: I answered your question. I don’t answer questions in simple soundbites. You are tasting a fine wine. It has multiple notes to it. (Laughter.) You better play 4D chess with me like it’s Minority Report. Because it ain’t that simple. It’s complex.

Q When would you like — I’m from the Chicago Sun Times, sir. I would like to know what you would like to ask President Trump to do for Chicago. You’re here to talk about crime in Chicago.

MR. WEST: The thing that the head of the police and Mike Sacks met with me last night at the Soho House about was we feel that “stop and frisk” does not help the relationships in the city. And everyone that knew I was coming here said, “Ask about stop and frisk.” That’s the number-one thing that we’re having this conversation about.

Another thing is opening up industries. And we’ve got to get some tax breaks too. Because we’re making — we got a Speedfactory in Atlanta, but the shoes are costing us $300, so it’s costing us too much to make things.

So we need some prototypes here so we can get people back working, so China can’t just beat us and Vietnam can’t beat us. You got Levi’s, the greatest jeans company in the world, making their jeans in Vietnam.

So we’re going to need to get a few breaks to be able to have some places in my hometown of Chicago, and 2.7 million to the 9 million surrounding suburbs where we can create some factories.

Now, I think it would be cool for them to be Trump factories, because he’s a master of industry. He’s a builder. And I think it would be cool to have Yeezy ideation centers, which would be a mix of education that empowers people and gives them modern information like — sometimes people say, “This kid has ADD. This kid has ADD.” He don’t have ADD. School is boring. It was boring. It’s not as exciting as this. We have to make it more exciting. We have to mix curriculums.

You play basketball while you’re doing math. You learn about music while you meditate in the morning. We have to instate mental health and art programs back into the city. So those are —

And also, Larry Hoover is an example of a man that was turning his life around, and as soon as he tried to turn his life around, they hit him with six life sentences. So I believe he’s — you say don’t tear down the statues? Larry Hoover is a living statue. He’s a beacon for us that needs to see his family; that needs to go out and represent. When you have a block leader on every single block, they can own the block as their own. That’s something I learned from Jim Brown, from “Amer-I-Can.”

We need to put curriculums for people who really came from the streets, not people who were just trying to set us up to go into a work system or prison system that applies to what people are really going through, which Jim Brown has created.

Q What about gun violence? With all the debate about the Second Amendment going on, how do you fix that?

MR. WEST: The problem is illegal guns. Illegal guns is the problem, not legal guns. We have the right to bear arms.

Q President Trump has said that he favors “stop and frisk.” Are guys going to be discussing that? Do you think you can change his mind?

MR. WEST: Yeah. We’re going to discuss that. I didn’t mean to put you on blast like that, bro, but —

THE PRESIDENT: No, no. It’s okay. (Laughter.)

MR. WEST: But this is definitely a —

THE PRESIDENT: Hey, I’m open-minded. I’m here. I am open-minded.

Q Mr. President, would you like him to speak at one of your rallies?

THE PRESIDENT: He can speak for me anytime he wants. He’s been a great guy. He’s a smart cookie. Smart. He gets it. These two guys — Jim Brown. He’s been doing this for a long time.

MR. BROWN: Yes, sir.

Q Is this a future presidential candidate?

THE PRESIDENT: Could very well be.

MR. WEST: Only after him. It’ll be 2024.

THE PRESIDENT: Could very well be. That’s good. I’m glad to hear that.

MR. WEST: We have a good — and the thing is, let’s stop worrying about the future. All we really have is today. We just have today. Over and over and over again, the eternal return. The hero’s journey. And Trump is on his hero’s journey right now. And he might not have expected to have a crazy motherfucker like Kanye West run up and support, but best believe we are going to make America great.

Now, the thing is my — another thing is black people have an issue with the word “again.” And I believe — my feeling from that is because I’m going to throw — I’m going to go all the way, (inaudible), because time is a myth. All we have is now. All we have is today.

So the word “again” — it doesn’t hurt us because the idea of racism and slavery, different things; it hurts us because we need to focus on who we are now, today, I believe.

So I actually brought some hats in that have a bit of a transition. I’m not trying to put you — (inaudible) in the spot a little bit. I made a hat that says “Make America Great.” Just that.

But I would love to see, at the Super Bowl, Trump wearing the “Make America Great” hat; Colin making — wearing the “Make America Great,” and showing that we can bend a bit on this side, we can bend a bit on this side, and we can learn how to be malleable in the infinite universe that we are and the loving beings that we are. That we don’t have to stick to our own traditions. And we aren’t a side. We are one unit. We are one country. We are one moment in history and time. We might have been here before, but right now we’re here together. And our greatest value that people have are other people. And we need to stop working on (inaudible). It’s like gang again.

THE PRESIDENT: Let me ask you this question. You’re in the Oval Office —

MR. WEST: Okay. (Laughs.)

THE PRESIDENT: How does it feel to be in the Oval Office?

MR. WEST: Oh, it is good energy in this.

THE PRESIDENT: Isn’t it good energy?

MR. WEST: It’s good energy.

THE PRESIDENT: It’s a great place. Jim, how do you feel?

MR. BROWN: I feel good. I truly feel good. And thank you, too.

THE PRESIDENT: You are so respected. And what Kanye is doing has been incredible. All over the world they’re talking about this. And I have to tell you, I had important meetings today with senators and with everything. Nobody cared. They wanted this meeting. This is the meeting. Is that right? I can say that to Jon.

Q We care about other stuff, too.

THE PRESIDENT: The others were good, right? But this is what they want.

MR. BROWN: (Inaudible) honor you would be here.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, it’s my honor, Jim. I want to tell you. I’ve been a fan of yours for a long time.

MR. BROWN: Well, thank you very much.

THE PRESIDENT: Long time. Nobody like you. Nobody like you. No athlete like you.

MR. BROWN: Well, you know why I’m here? I’m here to serve.

THE PRESIDENT: Yeah. That’s really nice, Jim.

MR. BROWN: I’m not here to ask of anything. (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: And you know, that’s always been the way Jim has been — for a long time. And he just wanted to help. And it’s something special.

Jennifer, did you have a question?

Q I guess — just you — what do you feel about stop and frisk? Are you going to, you know —

THE PRESIDENT: Well, we’re going to look at it.

Q — back-track on your comment (inaudible)?

THE PRESIDENT: I’m open to everything. Hey, look, I think it’s a shame what’s happening in Chicago.

Q And what else can be done in Chicago?

THE PRESIDENT: I’m in Chicago a lot, too. I have nice things in Chicago. You know that, right? And I hate to see what’s happening. They’re having numbers — the numbers of people being shot and killed and it’s — it’s not for this country. So they have to do something. And I am totally open. If we can do it a different way, Kanye, I’m totally open. I mean, we all agree they have to do something, that’s for sure.

Q Mr. President, is it a law enforcement issue? A legislation — a legislative issue?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, maybe it’s a combination of both. Yeah, I guess it is. But I think it’s probably a combination of both. And it’s also a respect issue. They respect this guy. They respect this guy. That’s a big thing. Right now, they’re not respecting, let’s say, your mayor, or let’s say your leadership in Chicago. But certainly it shouldn’t be happening. What’s going on there should not be happening.

Steve? Go ahead.

Q Sir, what do you want this meeting to lead to in terms of prison reform?

THE PRESIDENT: Honestly, from our standpoint, this was just set up to be a lunch of two people that I like. And I guess they like me. And we’re going to have lunch. We’re going to talk.

MR. WEST: You said — you said, I guess, you know I love you.

THE PRESIDENT: I know.

MR. WEST: Did I —

THE PRESIDENT: But I don’t want to take — I don’t want to put you in that spot, but —

MR. WEST: No, I’m standing in that spot. I love this guy right here. Let me give this guy a hug right here. (Laughter.) I love this guy right here.

THE PRESIDENT: That’s really nice. Come here. That’s really nice. And that’s from the heart. I didn’t want to put you in that position. (Laughter.) But that’s from the heart. Special guy.

These two are special people. Whether you like it, whether you don’t like it, they’re special people. And I appreciate it. Jim, Kanye, I appreciate it. So let’s go have some lunch.

Thank you all very much.

END – 12:57 P.M. EDT

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290 Responses to President Trump Meets With Jim Brown and Kanye West in The Oval Office…

  1. rjcylon says:

    The amount of freaking out the left is doing over this just proves they know how important this moment was. And watching his fellow celebrity entertainers attack him, when they should be standing with a fellow artist over free expression, is sickening.

    The reason this is such a big deal, is because it should not be a big deal at all. An American citizen was invited to meet the President in the Oval Office. We all have the right to accept that invitation.

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    • Judith says:

      Yes, and tens of millions of American citizens, as well as free peoples of all nations, are so thankful and blessed that Donald Trump is President of this great country. The rest are confused and angry sheeple, running with the wolves who would destroy the free world. Pity they are too ignorant to see it.

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    • Kenji says:

      Every derogatory slur spittled at Kanye … will resonate in the hearts and minds of Kanye fans. These aloof leftists have no idea what they’ve just done. They’ve driven even MORE people of color into Trump’s camp. This President is OPEN and WELCOMING. He is respectful toward Kanye. Meanwhile … every pejorative hurled at Kanye by the diseased Democraps is a pejorative hurled at free-thinking people of color.

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      • The Phantom Stranger says:

        Completely agree, videos of the talking heads trashing Kanye have already gone viral. The Dems are making mistake after mistake this election season.

        Remember, the Dems can’t do well in elections unless they see very high African-American turnout and over 90% vote Blue.

        I don’t foresee Blacks turning heavily Republican, but the Left smearing Kanye for supporting Trump are going to cost them votes across the country. Black males especially will just sit at home on election day.

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    • Bendix says:

      Yes, rjc. When will America stop treating black Americans as government property?

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    • Clay Writer says:

      That was brilliant. Some of Kanye’s thoughts reflected a unique spiritual belief but we are free to have our own thoughts and beliefs.
      Otherwise I thought he was well spoken and passionate about what he thought needs to be done for the citizens of America.
      No wonder the left wants him silenced.
      That man isn’t crazy, he’s a lot smarter than the left is giving him credit for.

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  2. kinthenorthwest says:

    Do believe Trump love ticking off liberals

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  3. treehouseron says:

    I was just sitting here thinking about this some more, and what I’m really struck by is how these three (Kanye, President Trump, and Kanye’s Wife whom he mentioned, Kim Kardashian) came off as so real and relate able today.

    That whole part he brought up about not having a father, and how when he got married (which you know… he takes very seriously… he loves his Wife and she loves him)… when he got married, there wasn’t really any male energy in her family either. So of course Kim’s Stepfather is Caitlyn Jenner! So he respectfully, with a laugh, brings that up and President Trump laughs about it.

    Then he says that he really related to President Trump because he’s always looked up to him as a businessman, as an American, as a father figure basically.

    ——————————————————————————

    I’ve heard Hulk Hogan talk about this before. He said when you get really famous, and fans start writing you letters, etc. it actually makes you feel **really humble**, because you think ‘wow, i’m just a normal guy, but they think I can help heal their child of cancer if I write him a letter, or they want a picture with me and it’ll make them really happy’…. he was basically saying that he never felt like he was up to the task, he’s just a normal guy not a super hero like all of his fans think he is.

    ——————————————————————————

    So I think, for just a second, you saw President Trump get humbled the same way today. Here’s one of the most successful musicians of all time, and one of the most successful business women of all time (it’s true.. don’t doubt it) telling him, that he is who they look up to… and that they’re looking to him to lead the country, and help fix our racial problems and our poverty problems, fix our incarceration and Abilitation problems.

    President Trump for just a minute there looked like he was caught up in the moment of it, pondering whether he was up to the job.

    Such an amazing moment in the White House, I feel sorry for the people on the other side who couldn’t and wouldn’t recognize the beauty of it.

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    • Ron, I want to think about your comments; very interesting.
      If I read the transcript it is, honestly, tough for me to totally decipher. However, what seems to be the gist is pain from Kanye at not having a father figure, desire to help the Black community with jobs, and better education!

      Trump has made terrific strides on jobs, and his work with the African-American pastors is amazing and provides a great off-ramp for people coming out of prison.

      Fixing education is, to me, a MUCH tougher proposition. We’ll have to fight the “liberal settled opinion” about education–which is, excuse me, mostly garbage. And I think Kanye agrees with that.

      For sure we need to be talking with one another–what a better solution than incivility! And no wonder Kanye West admires POTUS!

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      • ethicall says:

        Writing the kinds of songs Kayne does it is natural for him to use a lot of freedom of association thought. You do have to pick out the parts that made perfect sense and were insightful. He also has the same habit of starting a sentence and then letting you finish it in your own head, like Trump.

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    • olderwiser21 says:

      Beautiful thoughts, THR – thank you!!!

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    • MelH says:

      Does anyone know who the lady was, sitting on Kanye’s right? I was shocked by how few reporters were there. There were none on Kanye’s right, and maybe ten or twelve on his left. maybe only certain ones were invited. Obviously Acosta wasn’t there or he would have shouted some disrespectful thing for sure.

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    • Clay Writer says:

      I loved his father comments. It was real and passionate. I’ve worked with kids and youth for most of my adult life. plus my father was gone when I was three, so I can relate. This impacts Kanye’s community and the people he is trying to help. At least he is really trying to help. He could just sing his rap tunes and glorify guns, gangs, and ho’s like many of them but instead he’s getting off the ride and trying to help others.

      wow!
      And they call this president racist. Racist! are you kidding me?

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  4. Today illustrates something perfectly:

    The Democrat party is the party of fear, intimidation and segregation.
    The Republican party is the party of solutions, inclusion and results.

    They don’t stand a chance! #MoreWinning 😀

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    • Amy2 says:

      We need to draw the line (as the president does) at American. The Dems are the ones who break us up into categories so they can take advantage, pit us against each other and offer what they tell us are solutions to get our vote. I have never been a Kanye West fan, but I can see him as an American who is trying to make a family and life for himself, opportunities that the Constitution and our president are making available to all AMERICANS. God bless them both!

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      • 👏👏👏 Well said Amy!

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      • swampratterrier says:

        Amy, multicultural and diversity are just Dem/uni-party/Globalist terms for:

        DIVIDE AND CONQUER!

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        • G. Combs says:

          You have that right!!!

          From Richard D. Lamm, former governor of Colorado — I have a plan to destroy America

          “I have a secret plan to destroy America. If you believe, as many do, that America is too smug, too white bread, too self-satisfied, too rich, let’s destroy America. It is not that hard to do. History shows that nations are more fragile than their citizens think. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and they all fall, and that “an autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.” Here is my plan:

          We must first make America a bilingual-bicultural country. History shows, in my opinion, that no nation can survive the tension, conflict and antagonism of two competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. One scholar, Seymour Martin Lipset, put it this way: “The histories of bilingual and bicultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon – all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with its Basques, Bretons and Corsicans.”

          I would then invent “multiculturalism” and encourage immigrants to maintain their own culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal: that there are no cultural differences that are important. I would declare it an article of faith that the black and Hispanic dropout rate is only due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out-of-bounds…..”

          Well worth reading the rest of the article.

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          • Oscar Oddpicker says:

            G Combs, fascinating material which I never saw before. Hard to believe a former Governor in 2004 would go on the record and make these remarks. BTW, VDH is my favorite, living historian. Wonder what VDH says in response? Thanks for posting.

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          • Oscar Oddpicker says:

            Correction. I see now that Gov. Lamm’s “address” is parody. Had me going there for a minute.

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        • Amy2 says:

          Excellent point. It’s always about semantics, isn’t it?!

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      • Bendix says:

        Kanye is also smart enough to look at the place he came from, and refuse to accept the pat answers as to why it did not improve under the previous leadership.
        We all had to become free thinkers to let ourselves acknowledge the existence of the Uniparty, also to recognize that a showoff from Noo Yawk with no political background whatsoever might be the best person to lift us all out of the quagmire we are all in together.

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  5. Monadnock says:

    This was an extraordinary event – if this continues forward, it could finally herald a REAL upturn in the fortunes of black Americans after years of being ghetto’ed by Democrat policies.

    Thanks be to God Almighty! Perhaps black Americans will soon take hold of their birthright as Americans and shed the decades of mental slavery that the Left has foisted upon them.

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  6. treehouseron says:

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  7. sunnydaze says:

    What a beautiful man Jim Brown is.

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    • treehouseron says:

      Honestly, when I was sitting there watching that press conference he did outside, 82 years old, his body failing him after all these years of strength, all I could think was

      Matthew 25:23

      “His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.”

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    • KimmyK says:

      Like! Thanks for posting that link Troublemaker, much appreciated!

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    • Esperanza says:

      Interesting, Kanye wants black Americans to aspire to be Bill Gates, who debatebly created the high tech company which made our modern world. Lemon and Co want them back in basketball draft as hoofers and dumb sportspeople.

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    • Lanna says:

      Very good article, thank you. I read some of the comments posted and I found this one very interesting:

      “54% of all black pregnancies end in abortion which is celebrated by the Democrat Party. 6,000 blacks are killed annually by other blacks; this phenomenon is ignored by Democrats. Blacks are the only minority in America that is on the decline in per capita population percentage. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant which is why the left is actively trying to import Third Word denizens to replace them.

      You’d think that blacks would catch onto this concisely planned genocide”

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      • G. Combs says:

        And it WAS PLANNED!!!

        AND with MARGARET SANGER: FOUNDER OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND HEROINE OF THE SECULAR HUMANISTS — Fabian Socialist in her bed
        “…5. “Margaret’s English exile gave her the opportunity to make some critical interpersonal connections as well. Her bed became a veritable meeting place for the Fabian upper crust: H. G. Wells, George Bernard Shaw, Arnold Bennett, Arbuthnot Lane, and Norman Haire. And of course, it was then that she began her unusual and tempestuous affair with Havelock Ellis. Ellis was the iconoclastic grandfather of the Bohemian sexual revolution…he had provided the free love movement with much of its intellectual apologia.” Ibid. 57

        6. By 1922 her book The Pivot of Civilization “was one of the first popularly written books to openly expound and extol Malthusian and Eugenic aims. Throughout its 284 pages, Margaret unashamedly called for the elimination of ‘human weeds,’ for the cessation of charity, for the segregation of ‘morons, misfits, and the maladjusted’ and for the sterilization of ‘genetically inferior races.’….

        9. “Margaret Sanger was committed to the revolution. She wanted to overthrow the old order of Western Christendom and usher in a ‘New Age.'” Ibid. 64.

        10. “I look forward to seeing humanity free someday of the tyranny of Christianity no less than Capitalism.” Sanger, Ibid. 65…..

        12. “When Leon Trotsky came to the United States briefly in 1917, he met Margaret Sanger and her friends and came away with a feeling of great revulsion. In his memoirs, he recorded nothing but distaste for the rich, smug Socialists he encountered in the Village. He said they were little better than ‘hypocritical Babbits,’ referring to the Sinclair Lewis character who used his parlor-room Socialism as a screen for personal ambition and self-aggrandisement. Sanger and the other Village elitists were revolutionaries only to the extent that Socialism did not conflict with wealth, luxury, and political influence.” Ibid. 64….. “

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        • G. Combs says:

          Dang copied the last part and forgot the first part. 🙄

          Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood: In Her Own Words

          “…On blacks, immigrants and indigents:
          “…human weeds,’ ‘reckless breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.” Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people…

          On the extermination of blacks:
          “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” she said, “if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.” Woman’s Body, Woman’s Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon”….

          On the YMCA and YWCA:
          “…brothels of the Spirit and morgues of Freedom!”), The Woman Rebel – No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

          On the Catholic Church’s view of contraception:
          “…enforce SUBJUGATION by TURNING WOMAN INTO A MERE INCUBATOR.” The Woman Rebel – No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.

          On motherhood:
          “I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine.” What Every Girl Should Know, by Margaret Sanger (Max Maisel, Publisher, 1915)
          [Jesus said: “Daughters of Jerusalem, weep… for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in which they shall say, Blessed (happy) are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the breasts which never gave suck.” (Luke 23:24)]

          Couple that with: Secretary Clinton “In Awe” of Racist Eugenicist Margaret Sanger

          “In a speech to the Planned Parenthood Federation of America Awards Gala, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that she admires “Margaret Sanger enormously, her courage, her tenacity, her vision.” Secretary Clinton said she is “really in awe of” Sanger for Sanger’s early work in Brooklyn, New York…. “The 20th century reproductive rights movement, really embodied in the life and leadership of Margaret Sanger, was one of the most transformational in the entire history of the human race.”…”

          Sanger really was an nasty piece of work!

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      • Fish and hunt says:

        If abortions were to be figured in to the mortality rate for black Americans, they would account for 61% of all black deaths. That’s genocide

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  8. Retired IG says:

    Have been very awakened by words spoken by Kanye West. I was literally floored in a good way, when he said “George Bush doesn’t like Black people,” in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Itsounded like the truth to me. And I so admired him for saying that out loud. While directed at Bush, I think what Mr. West said rang true.
    Today what he said about so many needing Father figures also stunned me. Mr. West hit the BIG NAIL on the head. “Black MEN NEED FATHER FIGURES.” POSITIVE ONES.
    It also really makes me so sad today to consider the plight of the BLACK MEN in America, and their heritage of slavery by WHITE PEOPLE.
    The Nanny State has to GO.
    It is pretty strange (even to me) that this song came to mind tonight:

    George Michael – I Will Be Your Father Figure

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    • Your comments are so interesting. Making me think.

      I don’t really think that GWB “hates” black people. But perhaps he does care for them in a patronizing way–which is terrible and robs people of dignity. POTUS speaks the truth and is direct, but he does listen to a lot of voices. I think when he criss-crossed the country during the campaign Pres. Trump’s heart for America grew larger and larger. And people know that when he says he cares, he means it.

      So maybe, that is what Kanye means?

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      • suejeanne1 says:

        I did not agree at the time with Kanye back during Katrina about what he said about GWB
        . . . I thought it was unfair and that GWB was unfairly characterized all through that . . . I got annoyed with him about getting up on that stage complaining about Taylor Swift and thinking if it was all in reverse and a white guy got up on stage if Beyonce had won and complained about Taylor Swift not winning, there would have been hell to pay . . .

        but now I am totally annoyed with and done with Taylor Swift and loving Kanye . . . so there you go

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        • Esperanza says:

          Actually, looking back at that incident, he had a point. Beyoncé ‘s Put a ring on it video is iconic, Swift’s isn’t, he also did in a very respectful way. On the other hand these award things are pretty meaningless.

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          • Bendix says:

            Another thing about that night, which does not excuse it, Kanye was chugging from a bottle of (allegedly) Hennessy, freely, the whole evening, so his remarks might have seemed like a good idea at the time.
            Kanye had gone into a real downward spiral after the death of his mother.
            Again, that doesn’t excuse it, he’d had plenty of time to go into therapy or whatever.
            When Jay Leno brought him on his show later and asked him what his mother would have thought of his behavior, Kanye became so choked up he could not speak.
            That clued me in that there was more there tan the loudmouth, opinionated jerk seen onstage with Swift.

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    • Esperanza says:

      My takeaway is, you need power, not force. And US cops currently have to project too much force, and have insufficient power.

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      • Judith says:

        Yes, Esperenza, I can imagine how frustrating and demoralizing it is for law enforcement of every color, who risk their lives daily, arresting felons in war zones like “Chiraq,” only to find the same perps back on the streets the next day. Think about that.

        The law of averages indicates that these cops may eventually find it necessary to use deadly force upon violent, *repeat* offenders. And those would be the most conscientious, some would say naive, LEOs, the ones we read about who tried to do their jobs to prevent these black-on-black homicides.

        The more jaded among them have already learned to take their time arriving to the scene so they can merely collect the bodies. In today’s dysfunctional, highly charged political climate, who can blame them? The police have no power.

        On this issue, I strongly disagree with “Ke.” Stop and frisk in these sketchier neighborhoods, was a proven success with Giuliani in NYC. A big success, actually. And I’ll wager that every club and entertainment venue frequented by people like Ke does this too. We little old ladies are “inconveniently” stopped and patted down everyplace else, so why not to protect cops and residents in these high crime neighborhoods?

        If you realize that too many armed thugs, for whatever reasons, are running the streets now, then pedestrians must accept this minor inconvenience for the sake of law and order. Either that or lock them up!

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        • sturmudgeon says:

          Judith: I believe that you have a very good point. Kanye perhaps has so much “love” in his being, that he cannot see that there is ‘evil’ out there on the streets “carrying” with ‘intent’.

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        • Bendix says:

          My personal opinion on Stop & Frisk, of course it is unconstitutional, and an infringement on individual liberty.
          So is, as you allude to, the TSA.
          What gets left out of the discussion, however, is the opinion of older people. women, and children in the high-crime neighborhoods.
          It’s easy for me to say “don’t do that”, but if I had high numbers of young white males congregating on street corners and public areas in my neighborhood, I might be singing a different tune.
          As it is, parents from the high-crime neighborhood in my city will be ringing my doorbell for their little ones, this Halloween.

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    • G. Combs says:

      Black people need Black Fathers not sperm donors or bad examples.

      The Black Family: 40 Years of Lies
      Rejecting the Moynihan report caused untold, needless misery

      “R
      ead through the megazillion words on class, income mobility, and poverty in the recent New York Times series “Class Matters” and you still won’t grasp two of the most basic truths on the subject: 1. entrenched, multigenerational poverty is largely black; and 2. it is intricately intertwined with the collapse of the nuclear family in the inner city.

      By now, these facts shouldn’t be hard to grasp. Almost 70 percent of black children are born to single mothers. Those mothers are far more likely than married mothers to be poor, even after a post-welfare-reform decline in child poverty. They are also more likely to pass that poverty on to their children…..”

      This was a good article too: http://conservativeblackchick.com/blog/2012/04/02/wheres-the-outrage-over-the-black-family-breakdown/
      Perhaps you can retrieve it via Internet Archive: Wayback Machine https://archive.org/web/
      (My firefox is too old to get it to work anymore)

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  9. ringoagogo says:

    I was at one moment thinking is this real. I could not stop watching. And it is real. Made me laugh out loud. I will be sad the late nite comedy guys will run with this. But Kanye does not care and neither do I. WOW… That was great!

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    • suejeanne1 says:

      it was really great when he told Jonathan Karl “one question” etc., then when he hugged Jonathan at the end of the event . . . it was all very different and beautiful, really and the news people did not seem to know what to make of it

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  10. ringoagogo says:

    I was at one moment thinking is this real. I could not stop watching. And it is real. Made me laugh out loud. It will be sad the late nite comedy guys will run with this. But Kanye does not care and neither do I. WOW… That was great!

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  11. Retired IG says:

    Meant to add, imagine if this song were sung by Kenya West.

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  12. ck says:

    This is just outstanding. I think Trump conquered Hollywood as part of his overall plan to become President.

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  13. Dan Dan says:

    Me: ‘If I had a son, he’d look like CJ Pearson’

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  14. West called it on the Left.

    What the Dims routinely do is claim to represent a group. If you disagree with the Dims, then they portray you as hating a group. “Believe women” is a recent example. But which women should we believe, the one who accused Kavanaugh or the ones who supported him? Ooops. Same for blacks, that infuriating rainbow flag, etc.

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    • swampratterrier says:

      Gary did you see the linked article some Treeper posted last week in regards to the Believe Everything All Women Say movement? Wish they would post the link again.

      Anyway the article related how white women’s accusations of black men was the 3rd top reason why black men had been lynched.

      That should be going viral now.

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    • Bendix says:

      I’m still waiting for the other women assaulted by the popular athlete to come forward.
      Do handsome athletes ever force themselves on girls, even rather plain ones?
      You bet they do (not all of them, of course!).
      But for a handsome high school athlete to grope only one girl, and an unattractive one, at that?
      Does anyone believe that has ever happened, in human history?
      I certainly have never heard of such a thing.

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  15. kea says:

    Wonderful just wonderful!!!

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  16. Cooper45 says:

    Kanye West is a classic free thinker who despises those who attempt to stifle his free speech and opinions. He acknowledges that he rambles but, as most here agree, he makes a lot of sense if you listen to what he says. He made many very important points you never hear from most blacks in the confined Dem political tent.
    Bringing jobs back to America, the lack of fathers in black families and the reasons why, the Dems duping of blacks for votes etc

    Jim Brown is a great American given all of his accomplishments in life and his recent work to make life better for African America families etc. I wish somebody had mentioned his acting career. The movie Dirty Dozen is a classic given the selection of actors in the movie including Jim as Robert Jefferson, one of the 12 disparate convicts training for a Special Ops.

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    • Dee Paul Deje says:

      The exact moment when Kanye left the plantation:

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      • Retired IG says:

        Obama is not a BLACK PERSON.

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        • G. Combs says:

          He is probably an Indonesian, at least in citizenship. 😉

          Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack Obama’s mother, was a member of the little-known Islamic cult SUBUD founded in Indonesia. (The founder, Muhammad Subuh Sumohadiwidjojo, and Obama look a lot alike.)

          “….President Obama’s Chicago associate, communist revolutionary Bill Ayers, continued the dead-baby stolen identity racket initially set up in America by Silvermaster/CPUSA spies.

          Bill Ayers stated:

          We soon figured out that the deepest and most foolproof ID had a government-issued Social Security card at its heart, and the best source of those were dead-baby birth certificates. I spent impious days over the next several months tramping through rural cemeteries in Iowa and Wisonsin, Illinois and North Dakota, searching for those sad little markers of people born between 1940 and 1950 who had died between 1945 and 1955. The numbers were surprising: two in one graveyard, a cluster of fourteen in another. Those poor souls had typically been issued birth certificates – available to us at any county courthouse for a couple of bucks and a simple form I could copy from a death announcement at the archive of the local paper – but they had never applied for a Social Security card. Collecting those birth certificates became a small industry, and we soon had over a hundred. – Bill Ayers, passage from his book “Fugitive Days: Memoirs of an Antiwar Activist“

          http://theamericanreport.org/2015/08/19/clues-unlock-obama-id/

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      • Esperanza says:

        Compare the genuine interest and rapt attention of the press upthread and the sycophantic gigging here. Says it all.

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      • Rynn69 says:

        While I do not think Kanye appreciated Obama’s comments, Kanye can think for himself and see where the hate, bigotry, and bullying lies – to the left. And the response he received for his meeting with PDJT proves Kanye right. Nobody is going to tell him what is and he is smart enough to see the obvious. He is brave enough to voice the obvious. I hope others realize this truth.

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  17. Cathy M. says:

    More winning

    “Democrats agree to confirmations of 15 Trump judges
    In exchange, Dems facing reelection can go home to campaign.”

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/10/11/mitch-you-magnificent-bastard-libs-are-pissed-at-senate-dems-for-agreeing-to-this-deal-with-mcconnell/

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  18. Troublemaker10 says:

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  19. While Kanye should have refrained from using the MF word (no matter it being used in self deprecating way), he was like an IED blowing up on dims faces today with some very simple explanation and logic. His take on racism was truly outstanding and I believe one of the most original take I ever heard from anybody.

    I have never heard him before – music wise or otherwise – but one could tell about his passion and belief. I am not surprised that media thinks that it was a rant, but I guess quite a few of us knew exactly what he was saying and messaging. President Trump was outstanding – he yielded the floor to Kanye. Can’t imagine 0bama doing that ever.

    Media and dims (but I repeat myself) will never figure out how to beat President Trump in popularity and messaging as long as they keep on hoisting fools like Colin to pedestal and keep on insulting and criticizing icons of black community like Jim Brown and Kanye.

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    • MelH says:

      Are you sure Kanye used the MF word? I didn’t hear that. There’s going to be a March in D.C. on Oct.26th for the new Young Black Leadership Group. Dr.Carson will be on stage, as will Don Trump Jr. and his Kimberly Guilfoyle and Candace Owen. That’s the same weekend as the #WalkAway march

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    • jmclever says:

      Yielded the floor to Kanye with a genuine smile and affection for him. The older i get, the more i appreciate genuine people and Trump and Kanye are real. No masks.

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  20. YvonneMarie says:

    Adorable

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  21. Michael Wallace says:

    Before today I had a very vague awareness that Kanye West existed. After this I think, hat an interesting guy. Probably have never listened to his music but he is interesting.
    Trump is a genius for setting this up.

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    • treehouseron says:

      He became famous when he released a song called “Jesus Walks” 20 years ago. The hook was brilliant, the production was like nothing anybody had ever heard before with strange sounds and wild samples, and he had a really creative way of rhyming things immediately, then two sentences later, and it flowed really strangely like nobody had ever heard before.

      “(Jesus walk)
      God show me the way because the Devil’s tryna break me down
      (Jesus walk with me)
      The only thing that I pray is that my feet don’t fail me now
      (Jesus walk)
      And I don’t think there’s nothin’ I can do now to right my wrongs
      (Jesus walk with me)
      I wanna talk to God but I’m afraid cause we ain’t spoke in so long
      (Jesus walk)
      God show me the way because the Devil’s tryna break me down
      (Jesus walk with me)”

      I think if you READ his lyrics instead of listen to his music it kind of illustrates what his message has always been. Keep in mind this is Pre-MAGA Kanye.

      Saying the guy is a musical genius is not an overstatement.

      “To the hustlers, killers, murderers, drug dealers, even the scrippers
      (Jesus walks for them)
      To the victims of welfare feel we livin’ in Hell here, hell yeah
      (Jesus walks for them)
      Now, hear ye, hear ye, want to see Thee more clearly
      I know he hear me when my feet get weary
      Cause we’re the almost nearly extinct
      We rappers is role models: we rap, we don’t think
      I ain’t here to argue about his facial features
      Or here to convert atheists into believers
      I’m just tryna say the way school need teachers
      The way Kathie Lee needed Regis, that’s the way I need Jesus
      So here go my single, dawg, radio needs this
      They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
      That means guns, sex, lies, videotape
      But if I talk about God my record won’t get played, huh?
      Well if this take away from my spins
      Which’ll probably take away from my ends
      Then I hope this take away from my sins
      And bring the day that I’m dreamin’ about”

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      • andrew1979 says:

        you got it ron… great post.

        and when he talks they call it a rant but it is a stream of consciousness – and those that know what that feels like and where it comes from can recognize it for what it is. from the soul – not a silly rant.

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        • Lindenlee says:

          Exactly, and Trump gets it, he understands and Kanye KNOWS he understands. He sees Trump as a mentor who will listen, digest, align, bring in relevant parties, and implement. Without trying to have an “angle” and try to turn it into a racket, defile it.

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      • maiingankwe says:

        Thank you, Treehouseron, I’m going to have to look that song up and hear how he sings it now. I loved his words and his honesty, especially the end when he saying one can rap about all the bad stuff, but not about Jesus. He doesn’t care, he’s doing it anyways. I like that about him.
        Again, thank you for sharing the lyrics with us. I never would’ve known otherwise.
        Be well,
        Ma’iingankwe

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      • Michael Wallace says:

        Thanks. I had Alexis spin it up. it was more interesting reading than hearing. Hated it, but at least it wasn’t vulgar like some of the similar songs I have heard over the years.

        Does anyone know if adidas really returned some manufacturing to Chicago?

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  22. Troublemaker10 says:

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  23. White Apple says:

    Blacks need stop thinking Blacks as Blacks and thinking Blacks as Americans. Whites need to stop thinking Blacks as Blacks and Blacks as Americans too. We are all Americans regardless race color or creed.

    Liked by 5 people

  24. JPatrick says:

    It won’t change the Red Wave coming soon.

    Liked by 1 person

  25. Chris says:

    “Or here to convert atheists into believers
    I’m just trying to say the way school need teachers
    The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that’s the way I need Jesus
    So here go my single dog radio needs this
    They said you can rap about anything except for Jesus
    That means guns, sex, lies, video tape
    But if I talk about God my record won’t get played
    Huh?
    Well let this take away from my spins
    Which will probably take away from my ends
    Then I hope this take away from my sins
    And bring the day that I’m dreaming about
    Next time I’m in the club everybody screaming out
    Jesus Walks”

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  26. kea says:

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  27. Troublemaker10 says:

    Liked by 5 people

    • 6x47 says:

      I forget that woman’s name (Flozell? Glozell?), and don’t feel like watching the YouTube video to get it, but …

      The “ghetto-tastic” YouTube persona is an act, a put on. When she met Obama she did inform him that she is, in fact, married to a man who is either a LEO or career military. And so is her father.

      What I took away from that is Obama’s people didn’t bother to find out who she really is, that IRL she’s the complete opposite of the cartoon character she portrays.

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  28. GB Bari says:

    It was a magic moment.

    Oh wait, Magic wasn’t there. He is still on the Dimms Plantation.

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  29. Troublemaker10 says:

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  30. Guyski says:

    This is something that has been simmering for awhile and then delayed when Obama became president. Then accelerated after Obama left the office. What concrete things did he do for the black community? Kanye West is just stating the obvious. The dims have decide that their path to power (a big mistake) is thru immigration. Black-AMERICANS are realizing this. Hispanic-AMERICANS are starting to realize this. All hyphenated AMERICANS will come to realize this.

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  31. Scott Brooks says:

    Very struck with Kanye West’s positive energy. He is bursting with love and it’s infectious.

    Liked by 6 people

  32. 6x47 says:

    Thanks to all the Treepers posting the clips of Obama and his celebrity guests in the White House.

    Big difference between Obama and Trump: Obama was pandering to people for whom he had contempt. He wasn’t genuine; he merely brought in shiny objects and stupid people tricks to appeal to the lowest common denominator. President Trump in authentic, seeking input from people who actually have something to say about issues.

    And that’s what scares the Left more than anything. The best way to bridge the gulf between “conservatives” and “liberals”? Talk about SPECIFICS, leave the generalities and symbolism aside.

    Is the American Justice System racist? Depends on your point of view. But rather than talking about that evergreen clickbait topic, let’s discuss specific laws, policies, and sentencing guidelines that may not be producing the results we intended. NOW we can actually set aside the emotion and start making some headway. The Left simply can’t abide a discussion of specifics, because their ideas suck. Reasonable people agree true “bad guys” (i.e. violent offenders) should be locked up; it’s the non-violent offenders that are of concern. But the Left wants to release the violent offenders – they’re victims of the capitalist system and the patriarchy, you know. They’re JUSTIFIED in committing those murders, don’t ya know.

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  33. gingergal says:

    What does it take to get Don Lemon fired?

    Liked by 1 person

    • treehouseron says:

      I don’t know, but I can tell you two years ago he was completely sloshed on t.v. talking about nipple piercings and apparently that wasn’t enough… so no surprise that his racist intonations are no problem for CNN.

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  34. Mountaineer says:

    I think Jim Brown could still rush for 1000 yards and kick all of our butts!

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  35. TwoLaine says:

    I caught this late yesterday afternoon on youtube and watched it 3 times i a row. It was fascinating. Then I started to watch the new Hatch-Goodlatte Act signing, got maybe 3 minutes in to President TRUMP’s entertaining intro’s, and the internet went down. For the rest of the evening. It was one long call to the provider for no help whatsoever.

    Anyhow, I caught all the crap that was being said last night and today about Kanye, but my take was this after watching it those 3 times, and what they repeatedly show on the tubes.

    Kanye is a rapper, through and through. He tells fast-moving stories with his words and music. You have X time to get it all out, so words and sentences flow from one tho’t to the next. FREE FORM. Rap may not be for everyone, especially the violence, but there was a distinct story-telling, and A CADENCE to everything he said yesterday, THE FLOW and HOW he said it.

    Now I look forward to reading what everyone else saw and felt.

    P.S. Speaking of the left and their violence, wasn’t there another couple of rappers who actually put violent acts against President TRUMP into their raps and videos, and they all think it’s acceptable and that it’s funny. WHO IS SHAMING THEM?!

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  36. TwoLaine says:

    The Salty Girls, Diamond & Silk, were on Fox & Friends this AM. It’s a MUST WATCH!

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  37. Interesting , they are on full attack on Kanye , haven’t heard a word attacking Jim Brown . They don’t have the balls to do that . BTW went to my high school on LI and he came back for several years , even when on Cleveland Browns , to give out trophys etc at our little junior football award dinners for police athletic league ( where he first got his start ) . I remember because he gave me mine in 1958 or so . A good man .

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  38. LannyD says:

    Once again, Trump does a great job at forcing media to respond in a way they can’t win. They weren’t smart enough to ignore or minimize this meeting, instead bite hard and look like fools.

    P.S. (for us old lacrosse geeks anyway). They changed the rules because Jim Brown was so good at the game.

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  39. jmclever says:

    The kid don’t got ADD! School boring!
    Preach it, Kanye!
    😂😂😂😂

    Not just a Chicago problem. Many, many schools are failing our students. The corruption in Chicago just makes it more evident than in other places.

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    • paper doll says:

      Well said

      Like

    • Judith says:

      Yes, I absolutely loved when he said that! I always said the same thing. My son is very bright and extremely well-rounded. But he found it hard to focus in school because the curriculum, and the way it was taught, was boring and irrelevant.

      In fact, many of our friends who went on to rewarding careers never took school that seriously. My sjw SIL graduated ivy league with degrees up the wazoo and speaks five languages. She now works for her brother, a successful entrepreneur who never finished college.

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      • jmclever says:

        My gifted 8yo boy cries every night because he hates school. Says it’s boring. Add to that the fa t that he’s “all boy” and must be forced to still and be quiet all day and it’s pure misery

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  40. kallibella says:

    Wow! That was something!!!!! This was a meeting among citizens who care and love America. It was fun to watch on so many different levels. Despite his casual delivery, Kanye West’s message came through loud and clear. I feel that he believes that the time to make real changes and improvements in the Black community is NOW while POTUS Trump is in the White House/
    Great meeting and I just loved when Kanye went over and hugged our great POTUS Trump!!! 🙂

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  41. Thank you thank you thank you
    For the transcript.

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  42. TwoLaine says:

    The same people mocking Kayne West for a SUPPOSED mental illness are the same people that mocked Candidate Donald TRUMP for SUPPOSEDLY mocking a disabled reporter.

    And their leaders and followers have been drugging your children for years (for alleged disorders and vaccines) and putting labels on them for life. They get RICH off doing this.

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  43. chojun says:

    Haha what a time to be alive.

    Liked by 1 person

  44. paper doll says:

    A huge part of PT appeal to the AA community is the alpha male father model and the offer to be recognized as such. He sees them as American men, not victim pets to be kept down. The hunger for fathers in the AA community is vast. Fathers, not baby daddies. That’s why James Brown’s appearance was is so important. From James to Kanye ,a torch is being passed. God bless these men

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  45. litlbit2 says:

    Amazing to watch the left, msm, Hollywood, Williams bash the meeting as Kanye, Brown taken advantage of while forgetting one important fact.

    For eight years, Zero or Obama never was able to provide anything more than Food Stamps or soundbites.

    News Flash, President Trump has provide JOBS, tax relief and now SSI increase for 2019.

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