Horrific Shooting At Tennessee Waffle House Leaves Four Dead – Stunning Heroism By One Man Saved Many More…

Shortly after 3:00am this morning a disturbed man named Travis Reinking, 29, of Morton Illinois, walked into a Waffle House restaurant in Nashville Tennessee and opened fire.  Four people were killed and two more injured.

While attempting to re-load his rifle another young man named James Shaw Jr. physically confronted the shooter, grabbed the barrel of the rifle, and incredibly wrestled the gun away from him saving everyone else who was there. A stunning act of heroism.  WATCH briefing:

The shooter, Travis Reinking, remains on the run and potentially armed.  Reinking was arrested last summer at the White House, by Secret Service agents for unlawful entry into a secure area.  As an outcome of his behavior federal authorities revoked Reinking  firearms permit and instructed local authorities to remove his weapons.

“He clearly came armed with a lot of firepower intending to devastate the south Nashville area,” said Don Aaron, spokesman for the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department.

TENNESSEE – Police believe the suspect in a shooting that killed four people at a Waffle House early Sunday could be armed, despite the fact that authorities seized his guns following a 2017 arrest.

Metro police released the details Sunday afternoon, as a manhunt continued for the suspect, Travis Reinking, 29, of Morton, Illinois.

Four of Reinking’s guns, including the AR-15 rifle police said he used Sunday, were seized after he was arrested by the U.S. Secret Service in July 2017 on charges that he was in a restricted area outside the White House.

Following the arrest, his Illinois firearms authorization was revoked. Reinking’s four guns were given to his father, who has said he gave them back to his son, according to the authorities.

[…] The suspect first fired from the parking lot, shooting two men and shattering the glass window at the front of the restaurant before going inside and continuing to pelt the restaurant with bullets, police said.

Three people died at the scene and another died at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. Police said seven others were taken to area hospitals.

Two patients remained in critical condition at Vanderbilt Sunday afternoon. Two others were treated and released from Southern Hills Medical Center.

Police said that tally could have been much higher if 29-year-old hero James Shaw Jr. had not intervened and wrested the gun away from the suspect.

“You had a citizen step up to intervene with an active shooter,” Aaron said. “He is the hero here and no doubt he saved many lives.”

Waffle House CEO Walt Ehmer praised Shaw in a news conference Sunday afternoon. (read more)

Here’s the Hero, James Shaw Jr. stunning story:

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377 Responses to Horrific Shooting At Tennessee Waffle House Leaves Four Dead – Stunning Heroism By One Man Saved Many More…

    • I would say this is the big piece here:
      “Reinking was then arrested in July 2017 for entering a restricted area near the White House, a Secret Service official said Sunday. He was asked to leave, but declined, wanting to set up a meeting with the president. He was arrested for unlawful entry.

      After his White House arrest, the Tazewell County Sheriff’s Department seized his weapons, later giving them back to his father, who told police that he gave them back to his son.”

      WTH?

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  1. andyocoregon says:

    And he claims he didn’t do anything heroic. Ha!

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  2. Brant says:

    I live in a very rural part of Georgia about 20 miles from an interstate as the crow flies. A friend from another church told my wife and I about an incident t about 6 months ago. Their story is that 2 men (of a certain look, common in world incidents) came in and sat on or near front row (as visitors). They frequently looked at their phones. After church they also asked about and where children’s church was. They also asked about exits to the sanctuary and other parts of the building.

    I have not heard updates, but they have discussed and implimented security measures. Today we happened to go by before our church and they had a armed security guard. We did hear that one if their members is a member of law enforcement. I guess he comes to church in his business suit.

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    • Jimmy Jack says:

      Go ahead and report this to GA DHS and GBi and FBI. Get it recorded. You’ve been targeted and are at risk. Good thing you have help onsite and in GA I guarantee you there are parishioners carrying but it should be recorded officially. God bless you, your church and those children.

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  3. Obs says:

    Nutters walk the streets.
    It’s a function of US society, which for some reason has more nutters per square foot than anywhere on earth, excluding muslim hellholes.
    Unless these people are held in Institutions there is no solution.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Sorry, but all this posting about psy ops, our ‘overseers’ deliberately triggering or programming these shooters sounds more than a little PARANOID, conspiracy nut.
      Next you’ll be telling me the Pres, and his A.G. deliberately aloud guns to walk to Mexican drug cartels, so they could use the resulting mayhem to justify E.O.’s to circumvent 2nd amendment.,….oh, forget that.
      Its like saying the IRS delibrrately targeted condervative grou,,…ok, forget THAT,……Its like saying the State Dept. overthrew a soveriegn goverment, say LYBIA, just so her donors could get the oil,……O.K. So, just cause your PARANOID, doesn’t mean people aren’t out to get you.
      Somehow “don’t do the CRIME, ig you can’t do the diversionary program” doesn’t have the same ring to it.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Sorry, but all this posting about psy ops, our ‘overseers’ deliberately triggering or programming these shooters sounds more than a little PARANOID, conspiracy nut.
      Next you’ll be telling me the Pres, and his A.G. deliberately aloud guns to walk to Mexican drug cartels, so they could use the resulting mayhem to justify E.O.’s to circumvent 2nd amendment.,….oh, forget that.
      Its like saying the IRS delibrrately targeted condervative grou,,…ok, forget THAT,……Its like saying the State Dept. overthrew a soveriegn goverment, say LYBIA, just so her donors could get the oil,……O.K. So, just cause your PARANOID, doesn’t mean people aren’t out to get you.
      Somehow “don’t do the CRIME, ig you can’t do the diversionary program” doesn’t have the same ring to it.
      Sherriff Joe had the right idea: house prisoners in military tents, pink underwear and green bologna

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  4. JAS says:

    Very few people are “born” with mental illnesses. All of those are genetically predisposed (obviously), and there are usually chemical markers for that. The great majority turn the wrong way because of environmental upbringing, parents especially, and to a lesser extent but very importantly, peers.

    Parents always know. Rarely do they anything about it though.

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  5. covfefe999 says:

    This story brings tears to my eyes. James Shaw is definitely a hero. I hope he gets a lifetime of free meals at the Waffle House! And I hope he goes in to law enforcement or the military. He has that ability to act courageously under immense pressure. I need a kleenex. 🙂 I hope Trump invites him to the White House. Or better yet to Mar a Lago. Or both!

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    • Sgt Stryker says:

      The true definition of a HERO….one who places his life in mortal danger in service to others.
      Thank you Mister Shaw.
      OoRah!
      III/0317

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    • JAS says:

      He is a true to life person. He mentioned more than once that he was not trying to be a hero, he was just trying to survive himself. That is the true mark of a pure honest person. God bless him, his family, and his daughter.

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    • Trump Train says:

      To bad the brother wasn’t packing heat and was able to blow this POS away.

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    • softunderbelly says:

      There’s not enough that can be said about this young man. Truly a hero. What blows me away is that I understand he has started a GoFundMe page for the victims that has already raised $30,000! What an absolute STAR!

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    • jbrickley says:

      Very good interview with James Shaw, must watch. He says he’s not a hero but he is the definition of a hero. Definitely had God on his side, he stopped into the Waffle House after church. He’s in a college frat.

      Fight or Flight Response. Like James Shaw said, he instantly evaluated his situation after taking basic cover out of the line of fire. The hospital said his arm was grazed by gunfire. The AR-15 jammed or he was reloading and James made an instant decision to confront the shooter or he thought he would die. He made decision to fight. He didn’t have time to think it was a reaction to the situation. Thank God, he was able to react or he and others would not have survived.

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      • jbrickley says:

        Correction he’s going to church Sunday, the shooting happened about 3am Sunday morning. He and his friends had left a bar and this was the second Waffle House they went to after. He had a child young and is going back to school at 29. God Bless him.

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    • Charlotte says:

      Pres Trump should recognize his bravery with an award.

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  6. TNGal says:

    I live in Nashville. The mayor is already talking about gun control. Nashville is the only blue part of TN except for Memphis. There were three steps involving people prior to this evil man’s actions:
    1. let go after unlawful entry to the White House via FBI
    1. deputies in IL gave the guns back to the family on condition that they would keep the guns safe.
    2. the father gave the guns back to the evil and/or sick man.

    The steps by law enforcement and the father PRIOR to the shooting were lame.

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    • MK Wood says:

      Tri-Cities area.

      I agree and pointed this out. An unknown (to me and I’ve been here a couple years) attempted some lame devil’s advocate stuff.

      The kid had his “license” to keep firearms revoked. If people want to argue about the guns this is where you would argue based on constitutionality. My opinion is in this case the guns should have been destroyed. At the least they should have remained with LE. Since no counter to his “license” to have firearms was attempted (afaik) he loss that property. The family had no legal right to them either.

      For the mayor of Nashville, he is but another run of the mil prog in a prog leaning town. He carries little real weight in the state of Tennessee. Every state capitol in the nation tends to at minimum lean left due to government largesse.

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      • JonMaxwell says:

        MK
        I used to live in Blountville

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      • WSB says:

        Saw the presser. Looked like Parkland, Florida.

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      • sturmudgeon says:

        Yes, and very early on in the mayor’s statement, he was blaming the gun, NOT the one who did the firing of the gun… these people are stupid!

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        • Longknife 21 says:

          They are stupid, but their goal of disarming Citizens is to ensure the successful implementation of the rest of their Agenda.
          It is nefarious, but not stupid. Tactically necessary. Like brainwashing “the children” to hate and fear guns. They take the guns and subvert the children, then they can do anything they want to control the populace.
          Welcome to Dictatorship of the Proletariat.

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    • Peoria Jones says:

      The poorly conceived laws are to blame, aside from the fact that crazy people will do bad things and we will never be able to completely eliminate that.

      It would be unwise to blame the father without knowledge of all the facts. The son was an adult, and who says the dad even wanted to keep those guns?

      Either the gov’t authorities have reason to confiscate the firearms, or they don’t.

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      • Yet another case of mental illness. Read a story on Yahoo earlier – shooter thought Taylor Swift was stalking him; the Father was told NOT to give the weapons back to his son – IMO, he should be charged as an accessory. And yes, they certainly had cause to take his weapons – as someone else posted, they should not have been given to the Father but destroyed.

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        • DGinGA says:

          I read in another source that this loony went on his Waffle House shooting spree wearing nothing but a hoodie. I mean nothing! Unbelievable that the father of this idiot gave him his guns back! What on earth were the authorities in IL thinking when they decided that the seized weapons should be returned to the family of an adult offender? I would think this guy should have been on some kind of watch list after his White House incident.

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          • What on earth was his father thinking, giving them back to him? But then, mental illness can be genetic……it is really impossible for police to watch every single person w/mental issues but considering there was more than one incident with this guy, one would think……

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          • Charlotte says:

            The FBI again
            Quite deliberate.

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    • Gun control? Let’s start with not returning the guns to someone who is clearly a psycho!

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      • Mongoose says:

        Agreed. The guns were the psycho’s property and not his father’s. So why did the authority’s return them to the father? When his license was revoked, after committing a rather serious crime, I mean you don’t just wander into a secure area around the WH for giggles, as far as I am concerned his guns should also have been confiscated for the public’s safety.

        We have so many laws on the books and yet when “common sense” would tell you to take a reasonable action against someone who is a demonstrated problem, you are not depriving ALL citizens of their rights. You are then following the law and I am certain there is already one on the books that would cover this situation. We don’t need another law.

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    • USMCLt says:

      Gun control is the goal! Think of a football analogy. Americans’ unalienable right to keep and bear arms (as enshrined by the 2d Amendment) is the quarterback. The FBI is the offensive line refusing to adequately block the oncoming effort to sack the QB. It’s time to bench the current offensive line and replace them with people who actually adhere to their oath.

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      • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

        It’s almost as though the authorities wanted this lunatic to have his guns back. Deeply suspicious, ALL these crazies already known to authorities to be dangerous.

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        • Longknife 21 says:

          It is getting rather obvious, isn’t it? A known whacko is easily tracked, furnished drugs, and “triggered”.
          Also, when the Lib/Progs get control of a city, pass draconian anti-gun laws, the gun crime goes up? They do not enforce gun laws against their “cannon-fodder”. They are encouraged to violence by political operatives, and protected by the “police” from citizens’ vengeance. And often returned to the streets if arrested. The cops know who the gang-bangers are, and where they are, they are not allowed to just sweep them up.
          And it happens over and over. For decades.
          Creating more demand for Govt Control by desperate defenseless Voters is the goal.
          Banning guns is a myth. Police & military will have them, criminals can steal them.
          A functional submachinegun is easier and cheaper to build than a waterheater or a lawnmower by a knowledgeable mechanic with tools.
          FDR said, “Nothing in politics happens by accident.”
          These stupid scenarios are repeating on a weekly basis. The Official Response is always “Ban Guns!”. Funny thing is, places with a higher percentage of armed Citizens have lowest incidence rate of these “tragedies”. Most are in “Gun Free Zones”.
          Do you see a trend here?

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    • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

      The only thing that would stop this is 100% gun confiscation, IF that. Will never happen and they know it!

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      • Longknife 21 says:

        “They” are creating the “Popular Demand”. It is working in many states. And it is not “100% Gun Confiscation” that the PTBs want. It is disarming the productive, Law-abiding Citizenry. Criminalizing “Gun Possession” allows them to selectively prosecute ‘Violators’. The don’t really enforce the laws they have now. Criminals have their uses. They terrorize the Proles (workers) into demanding more Police, more “control”. Also criminals are easily recruited as secret police and black ops. Totalitarians need operators with a “criminal mindset”, easier to train effectively those that already have it.

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    • jbrickley says:

      There was excellent gun control in this case. The father should be charged with serious crimes for returning the weapons to his son. Clearly the shooter is mentally disturbed and didn’t receive the care required.

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      • Longknife 21 says:

        Then why did the “Gun Control Police” give the guns back? Especially for an obviously disturbed individual?
        Think about it.

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        • jbrickley says:

          Because they don’t own them. Left them in the care of the father who foolishly returned them to his son. I don’t know the gun laws in TN but I suspect you don’t need a permit for a long gun. Only handguns.

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          • Buckeye Heathen says:

            The FOID (Firearms Owners Identification Card) that was revoked was issued by the State of Illinois. Another one of that state’s many firearm laws.

            To the best of my knowledge,from talking to people I know in Tennessee, like Ohio,has no permit required to exercise your Second Amendment right. While both states have concealed carry licenses, both are also “Open Carry” states also.

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  7. wolfmoon1776 says:

    Treepers around the world – please go to this link and then report back here a copy and paste of the TITLE. This title is NOT factual here. I want to see if everybody is seeing the same title.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5645015/Waffle-House-gunman-run-TWO-guns-killing-four.html

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    • Peoria Jones says:

      Here’s the title:

      Waffle House gunman who is at large with ‘TWO GUNS’ killed four with an AR-15 that was confiscated by the FBI during in July when he tried to jump White House fence and ‘kill Donald Trump’

      From this link:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5645015/Waffle-House-gunman-run-TWO-guns-killing-four.html

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        That’s what mine says, too. The last part about ‘kill Donald Trump’ – I don’t buy that. The reports were that he wanted to TALK to Trump, and that is the ONLY way they would have let him walk. Anything about wanting to kill Trump is psychological propaganda. THAT is set-up for a violent move. THAT is intentional.

        But does the title say this stuff anywhere but America? How long will they let it go until the correct it? Those are my questions now.

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        • Peoria Jones says:

          That’s one helluva title, for sure – reads more like a novel! My understanding is same as yours, that he intended no harm at the WH.

          So what good would it do for the powers that be, to change the story now? Fed’s would look like idiots (again).

          In this case, maybe Occam’s razor applies. The DM is a rag.

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          • Cuppa Covfefe says:

            I’m in Germany, and I get a different title, though it may have been changed in the interim
            (will look at page source, if they keep timestamps, etc.):

            “Waffle House gunman who is at large with a gun killed four with an AR-15 that was confiscated by the FBI in July when he tried to jump White House fence and ‘set up a meeting with Donald Trump’ ”

            SO, at least here in beautiful downtown Deutschland, it says meeting…

            Btw., the perp’s father should be locked up with him for aiding and abetting a crime.
            I have to wonder if there are details similar to the other recent “fodder for gun control” issues – meds, TLA family members (FBI-CIA-NSA-etc.), or someone like Creamer (who likes nuts) or Soros (ditto)…

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            • RG says:

              Throughout this nation, there a many parents who need to be locked up for facilitating murder by ignoring their son’s tendencies to be mentally unfit and dangerous. The stock broker dad comes to mind (Sandy Hook); the parents of Trayvon Martin; etc….

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            DM is a rag – and YET what’s amazing is that some of the best MSM-suppressed news makes it to us through the DM. So take it to the next level, WHERE OCCAM’S RAZOR FAILS. Why is DM sometimes a rag, and sometimes not?

            BECAUSE THE IDEA OF A SOURCE BEING ONE THING OR ANOTHER IS A FALSE BINARY, AND WE ARE TAUGHT TO ACCEPT FALSE BINARY CHOICES AS A MEANS OF CONTROL. REJECT THEM!

            We would NOT have relativity or quantum mechanics, were it not for people who DROPPED Occam’s razor as an EXCUSE when SMALL DETAILS didn’t fit. This is one of the most IMPORTANT lessons that people like Sundance provide. GRANULAR MATTERS.

            Feel SKETCHY about the big picture – it’s OK. That’s not enough, but keep it in mind. Find a GRANULE that doesn’t fit – find MORE granules that don’t fit, and then put Occam’s razor back in its stand, because the people screaming for you to keep using it are doing so with a reason. They don’t want you EXPLAINING THE GRANULAR. And when the granular is tough to explain, it HELPS to have a lot of people looking.

            Once you see this, the people protecting secrets on Twitter with Occam’s razor are VERY OBVIOUS. Not all of them align perfectly with the Treehouse point of view, even though some are on our side to different degrees. ALLIES are not in ALL WAYS allies.

            Doesn’t matter. I stick to my guns. I’m a hound dog, and I’ve got the scent. EXPLAIN THE FACTS. Gotta do it. Even the peskiest granules.

            Back to DM. They have some aces who are doing good work, but they have some real hacks. The hacks are easily influenced to ABANDON FACTS, and that abandonment has SHAPE. That shape tells us something about WHO shapes it and how. Look bigger to see motive and manipulation. Money talks, but it’s not an explainer in itself. The money shapes – who does it shape for? What is THEIR motive?

            A much more interesting and useful story than “it’s just a rag”, which they WANT US to adopt. We need to start looking more closely at the DM – it’s one of our truth assets, but it is NOT guaranteed to be there for us in the future.

            Following THIS GUY is a good idea. GRANULAR!!! 😀

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            • jbrickley says:

              I think it’s simpler with DM. They are British so really don’t have much bias when it comes to America so they report the truth as they see it. They have a lot of gossip stories but generally their mainstream world stories have a lot more detail and photos than US media.

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      • notasmidgeon says:

        Waffle House gunman who is at large with ‘TWO GUNS’ killed four with an AR-15 that was confiscated by the FBI during in July when he tried to jump White House fence and ‘kill Donald Trump’

        Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5645015/Waffle-House-gunman-run-TWO-guns-killing-four.html#ixzz5DSmbGeAR
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      • Leslie says:

        Waffle House gunman who is at large with a gun killed four with an AR-15 that was confiscated by the FBI in July when he tried to jump White House fence and ‘set up a meeting with Donald Trump’

        Either the title has been changed, or I am seeing something different. This is the title that pops up now. It refers to “setting up a meeting” with President Trump?

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      • Longknife 21 says:

        Ah-HA! Now we know why the Illinois Gun Control cops gave the guns back!
        “Gee Whiz! This guy wants to kill Trump, doesn’t want money, and doesn’t seem to care what happens to him? Cut him loose and give the guns back through his Daddy!”
        (Dems and RINOs giggling in the back-ground.)

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    • JohnPaulJohnes says:

      Is this and others all about recruiting someone to kill Trump?
      FBI does interview and cia produces the movie to see the results.

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  8. JenniferVerner says:

    I’m about 13 miles from where this happened. A little unnerving to think that he’s still armed. Can not believe that this psycho’s father gave him the confiscated firearms back. Insanity.

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  9. Lucille says:

    Wow! That is a sweet young man. I pray God’s blessing on him to heal his memories, strengthen his resolve to be a good man, to keep his love of others in tact in an often dangerous world, to be a great father, and to further his understanding of God’s claim on his life which enables him to do the right thing.

    There is a saying, “When you see something that needs to be done, then you must do it.” James Shaw instinctively followed that and showed everyone what an honorable man looks and acts like. Thank you, Mr. Shaw.

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  10. treehouseron says:

    This must be fake news. This guy had all his guns taken away, therefore he could not have shot these people. He didn’t even have a gun permit, so how could he have owned a gun?

    Everybody knows if you pass gun laws it stops people from shooting people.

    Sarcasm

    James Shaw is a damn fine hero. Give this man a medal, he deserves it! What an American!

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  11. Tejas Rob says:

    Well, we have another person who obviously should not have been in possession of a firearm, or even a sharp object.

    He was arrested for trying to enter the WH, claimed sovereign citizen status, claimed he had a right to inspect the grounds and wanted a meeting with President Trump. Refused to listen to the guards who were telling him to leave, instead, removed his tie, balled it around his fist and tried to barge past them.

    Was found in the parking lot of a store acting strangely and told police Taylor Swift had hacked his phone and was stalking him.

    Also claimed 20-30 people had hacked into his phone and he could hear them talking.

    Had a psychotic episode at a public swimming pool where he exposed himself.

    Got into a fight with a co-worker while wearing a pink, womans robe and carrying an AR-15.

    But good old dad gave him his guns back. Way to go dad. Father told local sheriff he had taken the guns away from him before and they told him to make sure the kid gets mental help.

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    • JX says:

      The inanimate object isn’t the problem, the person is. Rather than take his guns PUT HIM IN AN INSANE ASYLUM.

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      • woohoowee says:

        You’ve got it, JX. The problem isn’t guns (or knives, or any other inanimate object) rather, the problem is criminally insane people. Thus, the answer lies not in inanimate object control, but criminally insance people control.

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        • woohoowee says:

          The questions can become very interesting: Why do leftists not consider criminally insane people control, which is the actual problem, but instead only consider inanimate object control? Could it be the leftists are actually after law abiding citizen control through gun control, since the law abiding don’t use inanimate objects for illicit purposes? Etc. & etc.

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          • dalethorn says:

            Leftists are the Pharisees of our day. Liars, hypocrites, children of the Devil.

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          • Pyrran says:

            On the other hand, do we really want people working in the government deciding who is sane and who is insane? Not me.

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            • sturmudgeon says:

              the long term lunatic ACTIONS of this guy “state the case” for institutionalizing him… what is your problem with that? From your statement, one might interpret that his most recent horror is the only one that concerns us to make a judgement.

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          • jbrickley says:

            Because 2/3rds of the Left are mentally ill themselves! They don’t wanna get committed. They don’t want the thorazine, straight-jackets, nor the electro-convulsive therapy.

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      • woohoowee says:

        Also, what is the logic (or lack therof) in proscribing 2A rights, but leaving the individual to wreak havoc on society through knives, bombs, fists, etc.?

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      • sat0422 says:

        Is there an open “insane asylum” anywhere to be found in the USA?

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        • JohnP says:

          The federal government defunded them in the 60″s or 70’s, when the egghead mental health industry convinced it that everyone could be treated with drugs as outpatients. The belief at the time was the states were going to pick up the slack. Of course almost every state decided not to.

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        • Peg_C the Deplorable says:

          I’m feeling the urge to watch “Slingblade” again…

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        • jbrickley says:

          There is a big one in CT called the Connecticut Valley Hospital of which there is the Whiting Forensics Institute which is for the criminally insane. I don’t know how much longer it will last. There was a huge scandal at Whiting recently where several staff have been arrested and fired for abuse. They work these people long hours with mandatory overtime and they are taking care of extremely twisted and dangerous individuals and it seems a few employees snapped and abused the patients while other staffed knew about it but turned a blind eye instead of reporting the abuse. A human can only take so much day after day and night after night. A couple decades ago an inmate was accidentally transferred to the minimum security wing of CVH from Whiting’s maximum security and he simply walked away into downtown Middletown, CT where he stole a large knife from a shop and stabbed a little girl to death right on the street in broad daylight.

          The problems are paying for such facilities and staff as well as avoiding patient abuse and nobody wants one of these hospitals in their backyard. That movie “One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest” did a lot of damage to societies perception of these mental hospitals.

          Every single one of these mass shootings involved someone with serious mental problems. In NYC you can see them wandering the streets taunting people. Only until they go off their meds and hurt or kill someone are they locked up long term. Mostly, they are nabbed by the police taken to Bellevue and medicated for a few days to a week then released.

          In Sweden NY (upstate) a mental healthcare nurse with actual mental problems herself had repeatedly self-committed herself was treated and released but she still ended up killing her son, stabbing so many times she decapitated him while 5 other family members were home.

          There are stories of those with a child who is severely mentally ill and they have not the financial resources to help the child and the state won’t take them. One mother had to lock up all the sharp objects in the house because she saw her son standing over her in the middle of the night with a large cook knife over her head. She had to lock him in his room for their own safety. She tried very hard but was unable to find anyone in government to help her. Used to be you could find a doctor to commit your child to a state institution but they no longer exist. What do you do with a 20 something? Nothing they are an adult and unless they voluntarily commit nothing you can do.

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      • Tejas Rob says:

        >The inanimate object isn’t the problem, the person is. Rather than take his guns PUT HIM IN AN INSANE ASYLUM.<

        Where the hell did I blame the gun? I blamed the nut who had it and those who allowed him to have it.

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    • jello333 says:

      Okay, WHY wasn’t this guy getting any help?! I mean from all that, the laws (as far as I know) would allow at least a temporary commitment of a few days or weeks for “evaluation”. And now it’s too late to help this guy, or any of the people he shot.

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      • Cynthia says:

        Without knowing all of the true details, I think he was probably an old child, his dad is wealthy, he has been spoiled all of his life, and his dad would never admit that his son has mental issues and would do anything to protect him.

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        • jello333 says:

          Yeah, could be. But in my book, making sure a son/daughter DOES get mental health treatment IS protecting them. I realize there’s still this stupid “stigma” attached to it… but my God, look at the alternative.

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      • Tejas Rob says:

        >Okay, WHY wasn’t this guy getting any help?! I mean from all that, the laws (as far as I know) would allow at least a temporary commitment of a few days or weeks for “evaluation”. <

        Laws are different state to state. It's a slippery slope allowing the government to label you mentally unstable and taking away your 2nd amendment rights. I don't know the answer but we do know one thing these shooting have in common is the person who commits them have usually shown obvious signs of mental problems. Maybe have a jury of peers decide, but that's not always easy.

        I was on jury duty a few years back and was in a group of prospective jurors for a case. During voir dire they laid out the case, they wanted the guy committed to a mental hospital, even the defense wasn't arguing he should not be, but no doctor would diagnose him as mentally unfit and they wanted we jurors to do it.

        I asked if a doctor can't make this judgment how the hell are we suppose to? I was dismissed in the first batch of rejects so I don't know what happened to the guy.

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        • jello333 says:

          Oh absolutely… most of these cases aren’t even close to black and white, and “slippery slope” is exactly the right term when it comes to how to handle people with mental illness. You do A and it could come back to bite you… you do B it could come back to bite you in a totally different way. And your story about jury duty… just wow, your question was exactly right.

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  12. treehouseron says:

    at 5:30, the ridiculous reporter asks him “who does this” ? Meaning, “who walks into a waffle house and starts killing people?”

    The reaction by Hero Mr. Shaw is very telling. Since the reporter didn’t specify, he immediately assumes he’s asking him “who saves lives like this” ?

    Instead of just starting to talk about the depravity of humans who would kill, he starts talking about how anybody can be a hero if they’re put in that situation, everybody has it within them.

    did you see that? He assumed the guy wanted to talk about how good people are, when the reporter was actually asking him about how bad people are.

    Not to miss the opportunity to completely miss the point, the reporter restates his question to make sure he gets the putrid meat he’s looking for.

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  13. Sayit2016 says:

    James Jr., you have done your family, your city and country proud. You are a GOOD MAN. You appear to be a calm, rational thinker and even in your description of this horrific event, there was nothing from you but the facts as you saw them. No hyperbole, just a thoughtful and obvious painful event to relive and report.

    This may sound strange, but you were where you were supposed to be at that moment. I believe that. You did all that any one could do in that situation.

    There is something heartbreakingly beautiful, about this young man’s humble and kind spirit. May God bless you James, in all that you do from this moment forward.

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  14. MSO says:

    Had the FBI any reason to legally seize Reinking’s weapons, they would have done so; instead they asked Illinois to seize the weapons. Illinois did revoked Reinking’s Illinois license to keep weapons and used that as a basis to seize the weapons. Now living in Tennessee, Reinking no longer needs an Illinois licence to keep his weapons.

    Reinking’s father may have negligently when he returned the weapons to his son, but it isn’t clear that he acted illegally.

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    • Mongoose says:

      If you act stupidly and it gets people killed, I think that is called manslaughter.
      As for moving from Ill. to Tn. this is a great case for reciprocity. If you are banned from having firearms due to “psych” issues, then that should stand nationwide. Period.

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      • MSO says:

        I’m very happy that California laws do not apply to me living in a different state. Yes, there does need to be a method for determining competency; a consistent and legal method though, not just a request from some FBI agent.

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    • jello333 says:

      And I think it’s totally unfair for the cops to put the responsibility on the dad in a case like this. They should have just taken the guns and kept them, or reimburse for the value or whatever. But no, instead them give them to the dad (most likely the son knowing about it) and say, “Here ya go, now don’t let your kid have them if he asks.”

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      • MSO says:

        Folks in Tennessee are grateful that Illinois gun laws do not apply to them.

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      • andyocoregon says:

        I’m betting that kid’s father will now be sued six ways from Sunday for his negligence in giving guns back to his obviously mentally disturbed adult brat. And it will be good to publicize those survivor lawsuits as a warning to others what not to do.

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        • jello333 says:

          Yeah. But again, if these were the father’s guns, I can see the logic in giving them back to him. But seeing how they apparently belonged to the son… wow, I just can’t even imagine going to the father and saying, “Here’s your son’s guns, don’t give them to him.” Of course it’s totally true he should NOT give them back to his son, it seems really strange to set it up in such a way there was even a chance. I don’t get it.

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  15. gueppebarre says:

    “Following the arrest, his Illinois firearms authorization was revoked. Reinking’s four guns were given to his father, who has said he gave them back to his son, according to the authorities…”

    “Revoke his firearms authorization…” – yeah, that’ll stop him… oh, wait…

    Y’know, lawbreakers are gonna break the law.

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  16. Rex70 says:

    Mr. Shea is a true hero. God bless you, sir.

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  17. The Admiral says:

    Listen to this guy… not even judgement or hatred of the shooter… just composed, compassionate and was paying attention. Now TODAY, recognizing he isn’t going to let this event define his life.

    This is a good dude. They went to another Waffle House, and it was really busy… so they left and went to the one where the shooting took place. Think about that for a minute.

    God used this guy as an angel… what would have happened if Mr. Shaw and his friends ate elsewhere?

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    • nwtex says:

      “…not even judgement or hatred of the shooter”

      Indeed, a sign of a true “grown up” Christian. Very refreshing.

      So many profess to be Christian but fall short when an opportunity presents itself….and slide back into ugliness such as hate and all that other stuff that comes from dark places.

      I stopped wearing my cross long ago because I know that I can get testy (etc) at times and certainly did not want that behavior to reflect back on The Lord. Nope.

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      • jeans2nd says:

        Put your cross back on, nwtex. It will remind you how to act as a Christian as it reminds you of this incredible hero, Mr. Shaw. The cross is for you, nwtex, not for others. Your cross reminds you of who you are. All the best.

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        • treehouseron says:

          I agree… This reminds me strangely of a thread within Stephen King (of all people!) ‘s books “The Dark Tower”. There’s a whole thread that last several books of a priest who thinks he’s not worthy because of things he’s done and thought, and near the end of the books his strength in Christianity plays a huge integral part in ‘saving’ the little clique that the books are about.

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        • nwtex says:

          awww Thank you jeans2nd that is soooo sweet of you and greatly appreciated 💕
          However, I’m thinking of looking around for a ring with a cross 🙂 I saw a lady in a store last week wearing one. Anyway, that way I, too, can see the cross and if some situation gets on my last nerve I can just glance and / or fidget with it. Wadda ya think? pretty brilliant, eh! 🙂 😉
          Better than blowing steam as I clutch my cross around my neck hahaha
          thx again sweet lady.

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  18. dbethd says:

    Why would they give the firearms to his father?!

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    • Tejas Rob says:

      The law states that even those who can’t legally posses firearms, like a convicted felon, still owns any they already posses and have the right to sell them, just not posses them, and I’m guessing has the right to transfer ownership to someone else.

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      • Buckeye Heathen says:

        Exactly.
        A friend had his extensive firearm collection “Confiscated” while he was charged with a misdemeanor this past Fall. After being found “Not Guilty” ,the Judge ordered his guns to be returned to him. When the local P.D. hemmed & hawed about how soon they could do so, his attorney made them hand carry them and load them into his vehicle.

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  19. Jeffro says:

    I’d say the father of the shooter has just become the target of future civil action by every person wounded and every family that lost a loved one in that Waffle House. Stupid is as stupid does.

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  20. ablefox says:

    Looks like FBI contact is a pre existing condition of all these killers.

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  21. moe ham head says:

    kids father should be charged for giving back his guns

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  22. yy4u says:

    Lets’ hope President Trump brings this man to the WH and gives him as high an award, commendation as is possible in this kind of circumstance.

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  23. Adjudicator says:

    An example of the ineffectiveness of “gun control”, which merely arms the criminals — who don’t care about laws.

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  24. ukibob22 says:

    As an outsider, non american i see this a bit different. Sad for the dead – but USA is bigger then europe.

    Somewhere in europe is also a shooting – maybe finland or island or kreta or spain…

    USA dont see themself as a whole continent..

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    • Tejas Rob says:

      We’re not a whole continent, we share North America with Canada and Mexico. Not sure what any of this has to do with anything.

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  25. Charlotte says:

    OUTRAGE: AG Sessions Rewards Broward County Sheriff with $1 Million of Your Money for Response to Parkland School Shooting

    WTH is wrong with Sessions?????

    https://truepundit.com/outrage-ag-sessions-rewards-broward-county-sheriff-with-1-million-of-your-money-for-response-to-parkland-school-shooting/

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