Sarah Sanders White House Press Briefing – 3:00pm Live Stream

Sarah Huckabee Sanders delivers the White House press briefing for Tuesday February 20th, 2018.  Anticipated start time 2:00pm EST. Delayed until 3pm

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175 Responses to Sarah Sanders White House Press Briefing – 3:00pm Live Stream

  1. Binkser1 says:

    Guns, guns, guns, Russia, Russia, Russia, Pres. Trump kissed a woman for two minutes. There’s your press conference. Tear them a new one, Sarah!!

    Liked by 12 people

  2. Ditch Mitch says:

    All about guns. Gotta support the anti gun rallies in Tallahassee, DC and anywhere else the Russians organize. Oh yeah don’t forget St. Petersburg.

    Liked by 7 people

  3. CheetoGuido says:

    So Porter is done with now?? This is what it takes for MSM to move on. Horrible.

    Liked by 3 people

  4. Running Fast says:

    The gun topic has been excellent. It has completely buried the main story… Obama and Hillary colluded to steal the election.

    Liked by 7 people

  5. Publius2016 says:

    Very simple: we support protecting our children by restricting guns to law-abiding citizens and allowing for a NATIONWIDE CONCEAL CARRY LAW so citizens can help law enforcement confront Criminal, Gangs, and Mass Murderers wherever they may be!

    Liked by 18 people

    • liberty, not license says:

      Excellent platform, Publuis.

      Liked by 4 people

    • Blacksmith8 says:

      OR more accurately so that responsible citizens get to survive the encounter until “first responders” show up in 8 to 44 minutes.
      YMMV

      Liked by 6 people

      • ILOVEPRESIDENTTRUMP says:

        Emma Gonzalez states that the FBI were first responders and were at the school saving lives in this interview with @CNN. The nearest FBI field office is in Pompano Beach (24 minutes away). Why were FBI agents at the school during the shooting?

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    • No, sir! Just a slight correction here, please.
      No nationwide, i.e. federal conceal carry law if that is what you are talking about.

      That’s giving the federal government permission to “infringe”!!

      Besides if we are talking constitutional issues, it would take an amendment, not a law, since the Constitution prohibits federal “infringement” on our right to defend ourselves.

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    • bulwarker says:

      What happened to this? Trump was all about nationwide conceal carry early last year then nothing. Now he’s talking bans and limitations.

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    • davidb says:

      Agree. but I think the Deep State elites have order the repukes to cut their ranks down to a minority in both the house and senate….go ahead and flame me, but look how many are NOT running again in the repuke party this election cycle.

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  6. Ditch Mitch says:

    PC delays are fun. Get to watch all the egos take turns at the cameras and mics. Opps fix that tie, pull down the skirt, does my #$%^ stick our too much? Sheesh!

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  7. Publius2016 says:

    So strange that Director Wray is asked to step down while the head of the south Florida FBI bureau head gets off scot free??? Should be the other way around: South Florida FBI bureau head should be summarily fired, the local Police should suspend those who last responded to the Parkland Shooter’s last home, and school resource officers should be suspended pending review too.

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  8. Ditch Mitch says:

    BTW, while us more informed voters wait, here is the CPAC agenda 21-24 Feb:

    http://cpac.conservative.org

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  9. bleep21k says:

    @ 3:16 pm EST – CNN, Brooke Baldwin and “panel” Highly upset that the presser hasnt started on time lmao!! “We have soooooo many questions!!?”, Balwin sounding like a shunned high school date – pitiful.

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  10. sunnydaze says:

    Sarah’s up.

    On FNC and FBN.

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  11. duchess01 says:

    Here we go…

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  12. burnett044 says:

    fyi..Trump host…

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  13. Le Borgne says:

    Plus, coming up we have two SC opinions that will likely go our way.
    1. Overturning compulsory dues collection for pubic sector unions.
    2. Overturning the gerrymandering in Maryland that was so patently obvious in its intent: wipe out a traditionally Republican district.
    Both will disrupt to MSM’s narrative and the first one will be a significant victory. Union coffers used to advertise against us will deplete rapidly.

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  14. fleporeblog says:

    I hope Sarah tells the Whores that the crumbs are starting to sway public opinion BIGLY! Nancy Pelosi is a National Monument for the Republican Party. I hope she sticks around for another 25 years!

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  15. sunnydaze says:

    Once again, Sarah has to remind these dolts that Trump *did* say Russia has meddled, numerous times.

    But trust me, CNN and others will be reporting the lie again tonite, if not sooner.

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  16. Pam says:

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    • harrietht3 says:

      On school security, was anyone besides me agonizingly frustrated that no mention was made of a REVIEW of Broward County school policies as relates to troubled and threatening students that might have contributed to the murder of so many people at Parkland?

      Treepers should be well versed in the subject given Sundance’s recent and stunning exposure of the same.

      President Trump should start there!!!

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      • The Boss says:

        Guaranteed President Trump knows about the school board’s policy change. 100%

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        • svenwg says:

          I believe he reads Sundancer’s well written and super informative posts. I would not be surprised if Sundancer has even had dinner with our VSS Genius, President Donald John Trump, America’s saviour and Patriotic President.

          May God, the People and paid security keep him and his family healthy and safe!!!!

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  17. sunnydaze says:

    “What is the Prez going to do about Russian interference in the election?”

    I dunno, maybe he could shut down Face Book, since they were the main propagators. …..that’s my answer, not Sarah’s.

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    • trumptyear says:

      ….Sarah’s answer…
      Pushing onward, Karl asked why POTUS hasn’t “even called out Vladimir Putin about this? He criticized Obama, he criticized the FBI. He didn’t even criticize Vladimir Putin.”
      “He has been tougher on Russia in the first year than Obama was in eight years combined,” the White House press secretary testily shot back at Karl. “He has imposed sanctions, he’s taken away properties, he’s rebuilt our military. He has done a number of things to put pressure on Russia and be tough on Russia. Just last week there was an incident that will be reported in the coming days in an another way this president was tough on Russia.”
      http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/20/white-house-press-briefing-sanders-karl-russia-trump-obama-putin/

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      • Just a thought as to why Barry ‘ I can be more flexible after my election’ Soetero was not so concerned about Russian “meddling”. The obvious Russian response: What about Barry’s ‘meddling’ in Kenya, Egypt, Ukraine, Brexit, Germany,Isreal, and “palestine”? Anything Barry can do, Russia can do better! Too easy .

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  18. Pam says:

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  19. Pam says:

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    • paulraven1 says:

      I’m not sure I agree. Allow teachers to carry and schools to have armed guards. That is a quick and simple — albeit a stop-gap — answer that would likely end all school shootings immediately. But it wouldn’t address root causes. Second stage: work on mental health issue as a social problem with complex causes. Break down the causes in a series of these “listening sessions,” start a real national conversation about the culture, drugs, fatherlessness, condition of boys. Invite in people like Camille Paglia and Jordan Peterson. Blow the Left’s mind.

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  20. Judiciary says:

    I know it wasn’t a presser topic but I hear that the DoJ failed to give exculpatory evidence to General Flynn. He will walk when he comes up for sentencing this spring.

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  21. patrickhenrycensored says:

    Say it Sarah;
    The msm is a Russian troll…..bot and paid for.

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  22. Pam says:

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    • Dave says:

      So, is PDJT thinking of some kind of “deal” where some new restrictions on semi-auto rifles will get traded for concealed carry reciprocity? (At least) one problem with that is that the courts may trash the reciprocity while the restrictions on rifles will stay.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        Taking away semi-automatic rifles guts the Founders’ intent of the Second Amendment. Fix the edges on that one – basically WORKING NICS, ripped out of the hands of those who currently sabotage it.

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  23. Bull Durham says:

    The Russian government and Putin had zero to do with the Trolling operation.
    If they did, the IC would prove it.
    Saying it was Russia (meaning the RF government) is fallacious and unproven.
    Saying that Putin was behind it, condoned it or otherwise supported it is unproven also.

    Russians indicted are not at all attached to or paid by the RF government.

    Facts matter.

    CIA has not one iota of proof. And since this is all out in the open, virtually has been since 2014 open source is what was known and what is known.

    It’s old news in Russia.

    Facts matter.

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    • Ditch Mitch says:

      Sarah! Nice slapdown of Roberts. “I was about to finish before you interrupted”.

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    • patrickhenrycensored says:

      “Facts matter.”
      Not to the msm.
      It’s how they ‘feel’ about them.

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    • President Trump would be irresponsible to call out Putin when there is no proof of linkage to the Russian Government.

      When you consider Operation Fast & Furious and similar actions America has taken in the affairs of other countries we should be measured in our response to these attempt to cause election related chaos. We would do better to improve our internet & voting security as well as requiring transparency as to the sources of ads and the $ being spend for political purposes. There will always be attempts to influence events in America from outside actors just as we will be doing the same.

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      • auscitizenmom says:

        I think Mexico is worse than Russia. They have too many embassies here and they encourage their people to be here illegally and to vote. They have even spoken out about what needs to be done in our elections.

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      • Not the actual government of Russia meddling in other country’s elections….. Can we please remember Mexicans, waving Mexican flags, posters and banners written in Spanish, jumping on top of police cars, beating up Trump supporters during our election rallies? Mexico medding in the U.S. election? Where’s the outrage?

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    • sejmon says:

      right on.!!!!!!!

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  24. Pam says:

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    • kenmar1965 says:

      Nothing will happen regarding bump-stocks because, nothing should happen regarding bump-stocks.

      Liked by 5 people

    • tdaly14 says:

      Bump stocks are not the problem.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Alligator Gar says:

      Why would the supposedly pro-2d Amendment President support us not having access to these fun items? Or to ARs? WTF? This burns me up.

      Just because the school “districts” and LEOs are not doing their job and arresting people who break the law repeatedly like this de Jesus Cruz guy in Broward should not mean that I have to give up one iota of my LIBERTY!

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      • mimbler says:

        And it isn’t accidental. Time after time we find the government is not populating the NICS database to keep criminals and crazies from getting a gun.
        They are trying to keep guns from citizens, not criminals.

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        • wolfmoon1776 says:

          What you state about NICS is the real problem.

          We need a WHITE HAT group to go into FBI and take 100% control of NICS. A double purpose. Run it clean and fix it. Investigate all degradations of it, looking for communist techniques of process sabotage. Report to POTUS with NAMES, both in FBI, but more importantly, saboteurs in all places that are supposed to be feeding NICS and aren’t. Work with those agencies, states and institutions to get the processes fixed. Get all saboteurs FIRED everywhere if possible, NAMED AND SHAMED to their employers otherwise. WIN, WIN.

          These people can likewise RAISE HELL about Broward County Schools.

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      • paulraven1 says:

        It burns me up too. Conceding these points is unwise and not what was expected. Why aren’t we challenging these provably false memes and going on offense. We can turn this narrative around but we’re not really trying. Playing defense again.

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  25. I am disgusted that the Press can get away with acting like Russian involvement sowing discord in this election is new and we should be outraged. What hypocrites. Russia, America and many other Nations interfere on a much greater scale every day and have for decades. These press fools make it up as they go along and seem to have outrage in gallon spray containers so they can blanket us at will.

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  26. Donna in Oregon says:

    Jeff Sessions? Public Safety Medal of Valor ceremony.

    So much better than the “He’s tweeting again”…..call a whambulance. Does the press know how pathetic they sound?

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    • duchess01 says:

      Apparently, not, Donna! They are clueless about anything resembling the truth!

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      • Donna in Oregon says:

        I know duchess01, we should have a day where the Treehouse takes over for Sarah to teach the press a lesson. We are months ahead of them in muh Russia. Of course we probably wouldn’t be able to change them, but what fun we would have, eh?

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        • duchess01 says:

          Sarah has the patience of a saint – I would be brutally honest with them – like President Trump – I have little patience for ‘stupid’ people!

          In addition, Donna, I don’t think they are ‘teachable’ – they are ‘programmed’ to ask dumb questions – imho

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  27. Donna in Oregon says:

    POTUS!!!! He’s here!!!! Yeah!!!!

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  28. singingsoul says:

    Two things struck me today at the press briefing
    !) The media seems to hold the President responsible for the shooting as if he is the one who triggered the rifle.
    2) Russia problem, President Trump did not create the problem but the media does not seem to be satisfied unless POTUS declarers war with Russia.
    The behavior of the media is outrageous vile ignorant and they sound like agents of a regime but it does not seem US.

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    • More and more the press briefings seem to serve no useful purpose. I have watched every one since election day but the last couple weeks they are just appalling.

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      • Bull Durham says:

        One constant in the WH from day 1, the communications and messaging and response to live events is RETARDED! except for the man on the Twitter keyboard.

        Sarah the last two weeks allows 2-3-4 questions, repetitiously asked questions and endless preambles to questions. If this goes on, don’t televise them. Don’t empower your enemy.

        Hope Hicks is obviously not effective during this time. The other men spokesman are not dynamic.

        They need people like Katrina and Tammy Bruce who can jab, jab, jab and pow!.

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        • I have noticed Sarah has gotten weaker and weaker in dealing with these people. Why is she doing this? I watched a few minutes and shut it down…horrible. She’s starting to act like Spicer.. I agree they need someone like Tammy Bruce up there.

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      • TheWanderingStar says:

        Could not agree more growl.

        I liken Sarah job as to that of a plumber. There are a lot of turds out there and someone has to keep them moving along.

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        • Oldschool says:

          Agree. Sarah started out great especially in contrast to spicer, but she has allowed their behavior to go unchecked and now her pressers are like spicer’s. Msm owns the room. It should not and does not have to be this way. I don’t understand Trump’s tolerance of this. As far as hope, she has presided over all of it, total fail in communications out of this administration, except POTUS.

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    • All American Snowflake says:

      Remember the Orlando night club shooting. The press reported that the shooter yelled, “God is great” instead of allahu akbar. Which means “my god is greater than your god” also meant to obfuscate. Cannot have a “real” American speaking in Yiddish, according to the Obama’s press, now can we? (P.S. I know allahu akbar is not Yiddish.)

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    • Boots says:

      There is no press or media. There’s only a well organized, deeply entrenched, top down directed propaganda arm of the Marxist/Progressive/Democrats, whose job is to subliminally brainwash the ignorant sheeple into accepting their fabricated reality.

      Such an organization is an active enemy of the United States, working from behind the shelter of the first amendment to destroy the second amendment, and the republic which gave us that amendment. The propaganda outfits are at war against America and should be dealt with as enemies of America, and given no quarter.

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  29. bosscook says:

    Speaking of “save the children from guns”….this is awesome….

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  30. Bull Durham says:

    I am so happy that they brought in the San Bernardino shootout heroes. That was washed under the horizon and fouled over by FBI. But these guys were great and shot dead the terrorists.
    Heroes!

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  31. TheWanderingStar says:

    What is PDJT doing to address Russia election interference? Very obviously he allowing Mueller to continue to conduct his investigation into those “matters”. Again, the MSM is ridiculous and quite frankly stupid.

    Assault weapons…any weapon, indeed object, can be used to assault a person. The MSM is ridiculous and quite frankly stupid.

    When all else fails, “Uh, bump stocks!”.

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  32. TheWanderingStar says:

    I’m thinking that this WH and future WH’s should just issue WH statements on current events of the day and disband the press corps. It has been the platform that the press uses to shape their desired narrative. They are only interested in their “facts”. Time to move on to something better.

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  33. TeaForAll says:

    John Roberts needs to check his attitude at the door ….confrontational today
    The recent protests seen to well organized after this tragic shooting. Kids do not have the resources for this type of protest.

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    • NC PATRIOT says:

      Nope fully funded by Soros or CNN or some other leftict group.

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      • mimbler says:

        Clooney and Oprah have each given 500,000 to it, and I’m sure Bloomfield was all over it as well.
        Soros, probably as well, but CNN? I think they are too broke! 🙂

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      I think the shooting itself was triggered by Soros or one of his ilk. Too many “coincidences”…

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    • That’s what I keep thinking; there is no way these students could get this organized all by themselves in this short a period of time….I thought they were traumatized? Something stinks here. And, once again, where are their parents? It’s the parents who should be leading, instead, what, they are following a bunch of 16 year olds? This is what the problem is…adults abdicating their roles and letting children run things….very weird stuff.

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  34. Janice says:

    Clooney chipped in $500,000

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  35. Boots says:

    Ah No! Trump directs Sessions to propose legislation to ban bump stocks and ‘any device that turns a gun into a machine gun’. Man, I hate it when those ignorant of guns try to promulgate gun laws. Here’s the law which defines what a machine gun is

    26 USC 5845, Definitions, (b), Machinegun:

    “The term “machinegun” means any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger”

    Key phrase is “single function of the trigger”. That means that with a single squeeze of the trigger the gun keeps shooting until the magazine is empty.

    A bump stock doesn’t ‘turn a gun into a machine gun’. Every shot fired using a bump stock is fired by a separate pull of the trigger. Separate discharges of shots by separate trigger pulls doesn’t meet the federal definition of “machine gun”. Because a bump stock is not a machine gun, and doesn’t turn a semi-auto rifle into a machine gun, ATF and the Obama administration were unable to ban bump stocks.

    ATF has no power to change the lawful definition of machine gun under 26 USC 5845 (b). y Neither, as far as I know, does DOJ. DOJ only enforces existing laws and definitions that are codified by existing laws.

    Only Congress can change the current, federal definition of “machine gun”.

    SURE HOPE Trump KNOWS that and that he also KNOWS Congress does NOT have the VOTES to change the law.

    Banning bump stocks is NOT the answer. For tons of reasons that I won’t go into here.

    But to conclude, a bump stock is a range toy that increases the rate of fire just for fun. It takes a lot of practice to learn to operate a bump stock to the point that you can keep rounds on target in long or short ‘bursts’. You need to hold the stock hard into your shoulder pocket, keep your trigger finger hard on the plastic trigger rest of the bump stock, and you need – most of all – to keep just the right amount of forward pressure with your weak hand on the weapon’s foregrip. Pulling the weapon forward causes the trigger to “bump” against your trigger finger. Recoil drives the weapon back into the stock pocked of the bump stock. And your continued forward pressure on the foregrip pull the weapon forward where the trigger trips on your finger that’s resting on the bump stock “trigger”….and the process repeats itself.

    The resulting fire varies widely in rate of fire and is stop, start.

    It’s far, far easier to learn how to operate a true shoulder fired assault rifle or submachine gun (M16, M4, AK, MP5, Uzi, Thompson, MP40) in full auto mode than to learn how to operate a bump stock. That said, even the formerly inexpensive full size UZI (around $1,000-$1,500 in 1990) runs around $8000-$10,000 today, plus the $200 transfer tax. And good 9m ammo is around .40 – .50 cents/round, or $400-$500/1,000 rds. You can easily burn through 500-1,000 rounds in a full 6 hour day of shooting. Darned expensive compared to the good ole’ days.

    Bump stocks are a cheap alternative that attempt to replicate the full auto experience. It’s a cheap, unsatisfying replication to those who’ve been trained on the real things. For those who can’t afford a $20,000 M16 or $9,000 UZI, or who live in a state that prohibits Title II firearms, the only alternative is a bump stock.

    That they’ve been around for nearly 10 years with only one crime committed with them attests to their benign usage nationwide.

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    • mimbler says:

      And even worse, proposed wording I have seen to ban bump stocks would make altered trigger assemblies illegal if they reduce the effort to fire the gun.

      I wouldn’t think there are many shooting competitors that don’t have a trigger job done, either by them, a gunsmith or a replacement trigger assembly. It’s a good way to make criminals out of citizens.

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      • Bull Durham says:

        That is the intent. The Tyranny called government takes our birthrights (Bill of Rights) and turns them into weapons against us. Free Speech, Assembly, Religion, Guns, etc.

        Government is always the enemy of Liberty.

        Not da Russians or anyone out there. First at our throats is the government.
        And first at our wallets is the government.

        Our Founding Fathers warned us. People have to go read the beginning.

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      • covfefe999 says:

        You could make the same argument about abortion. If we make abortions illegal (which I support) then women will have them surreptitiously, including DIY … therefore we shouldn’t ban them?

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        • mimbler says:

          That wasn’t what I was saying at all. I was saying the proposed wording was over-general and would ban activities that weren’t a problem.

          Like if you banned abortion, and the way it was written wouldn’t allow you to shampoo your hair either. It would be making criminals out of everyone with clean hair.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      How many people do you think Stephen Paddock would have been able to kill or injure without that bump stock? I think it would have been a fraction.

      For those who can’t afford a $20,000 M16 or $9,000 UZI, or who live in a state that prohibits Title II firearms, the only alternative is a bump stock.

      That’s actually a reason to ban bump stocks.

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      • mimbler says:

        I think there are arguments on both sides of the matter. The pulse Orlando shooter killed nearly as many without a bumpstock. (49 vs 59)

        But more to the point, I was stating that the proposed language would ban more than bumpstocks.

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      • wolfmoon1776 says:

        Despite being a powerful 2A defender, I have opposed bump stocks from a legal perspective. To me, they are bad law, and make a mockery of the spirit of the law. I don’t care who needs to fix it – Congress, POTUS, or ATF, but the whole point of the law on automatic fire is that automatic fire “QUACKS LIKE A DUCK” is supposed to be more highly regulated, but SEMI-AUTO IS OURS.

        These things blur the line. If we want to change the regulation of automatic, that’s another kettle of fish. I personally think bump stocks should be LEGAL for those licensed for other forms of more directly engineered automatic fire.

        The Obama ATF was not visionary enough to accept that bump stocks undermined their regulation criterion ITSELF, and that the criterion was thus outmoded. (Either that or it was a political decision to assure re-election.) Somebody had essentially hacked their definition using the relativity principle and a cunning way of making the user’s finger a part of a dynamic automatic mechanism. They achieve ACTUAL automation (watch audio visualizations) outside the standard mechanism. The result is semi-crude, like ALL HACKS. But common sense tells people it is full auto, and common sense is not lying.

        I want Bump stocks to be a TWO-FER. We GIVE UP this bad Obama allowance of a HACK in the law, but we ENSHRINE FOREVER the right of law-abiding civilians to own ALL EXISTING forms of semiautomatic weapons, as well as new ones which will obey principles like the one I’m proposing (including – to be wildly illustrative – MENTAL SEMI-AUTO).

        There are NEW principles we can use to include all current semi-automatic weapons and more. They will lean on logical IT principles, thus getting around mechanical hacks. The bottom line – 1 conscious, instantaneous, impulse from one GO decision, 1 bullet. All the rest is mechanics. We state CATEGORICALLY that SEMI-AUTO by this broad general definition is ours, and hands off any form factor, magazine size, or COLOR of the gun, GO TO HELL KAMALA. 😉

        We give them a weak pawn, we make our rook super-solid for the remainder of the game.

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        • Boots says:

          Wolf, you said:

          “We give them a weak pawn, we make our rook super-solid for the remainder of the game.”

          You essentially said “If we give the gun haters X, they’ll let us have Y and Z.”

          Kinda surprised to hear that from you, considering your obvious intellect and astute grasp of the subjects on CTH.

          After 50 years as a gun owner and more than 20 as a (now retired) licensed dealer and manufacturer, I learned this:

          1. ATF field agents, office supervisors, and district managers HATE the 2nd Amendment.

          2. At all levels, ATF will ALWAYS try to entrap you by trying to get you to say something they can arrest and charge you with a felony for. That’s why they ALWAYS show up with two of them: witness and corroborating witness. Once they catch you in a lie, its’ all over for you. Your gun owning days are through. They know most will take the plea and accept the felony in exchange for no jail time. Thus, ATF ensures the targeted gun owner will never own another gun due to their felony. And so, another potential resistor to the Communist takeover of America is eliminated.

          3. ATF and the gun haters will NEVER give you Y or Z just because YOU gave them X. They will ALWAYS use the fact that you “willingly gave up” X to justify their attempt to take A thru W away from you too.

          The gun-haters are NOT interested in keeping our kids alive. They’re USING our kids as WEAPONS AGAINST US (sorry for shouting!) to disarm us in order to further advance their Godless agenda.

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            You are EXACTLY RIGHT. ATF are trouble. Even when Trump hoped they would FIX the regulation, they didn’t. Yes – I agree with everything you said.

            That is why I think we need LEGISLATION that Congress and Trump IMPOSES on ATF, and which needs to do 3 things:

            (1) Move bump stocks up to full auto.

            (2) Define semi-auto LOGICALLY as I describe (1:1), making any higher ratio “machine gun”, and make sure that this definition has both NRA and GOA approval.

            (3) State unequivocally in law that civilians may own ALL forms of present or future semi-auto firearms under the NRA-approved and GOA-approved LOGICAL definition.

            See where I’m coming from? Treat ATF as hostile Obama embeds who helped Stephen Pollack. For all we know they did.

            PS – Although I would never be confirmed, I wouldn’t mind running ATF. 😉

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      • Boots says:

        “would have been a fraction”

        Not necessarily. If he was as good a shot at the propaganda media said he was, he’d have hit way more people with rapid but carefully aimed fire than full auto fire.

        Not to be disrespectful, but curious how much full auto M16 firing you’ve done and at what.

        The reason the U.S. military changed it’s M4 and M16 from “Auto” to “Burst” fire is that due to severe 1:00 o’clock muzzle rise on full auto, troops missed more than they hit. When the selector is set to “Burst” only 3 rounds at a time are fired. Even then only the first round is assured a hit. Sometimes the 2nd round. And 98% of the time not the 3rd round. The exception is when one practices excessively. And infantry doesn’t practice “excessively”.

        But I digress. Hundreds of thousands, maybe more, bump stocks have been sold since their inception. Their safety record is outstanding. That one guy, one time, used one doesn’t justify banning this benign product.

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        • davidb says:

          @ Boots…agree. Also most people here assume Paddock was alone. I beg to differ. I cannot prove that he had accomplices, and no one can prove he didn’t.

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          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            There were at least 2 – two firing for sure at the time of the specific recording Health Ranger used. Logically, there is no refutation of his audio analysis. His work was beautiful.

            What I found interesting is that the science was beyond the disinformation specialists to combat. They presumably had a management decision not to even try. And then I found another recording that confirmed a second gun through other less technical evidence, which would have been easier to combat, but which was overlooked by the disinformation forces, so I knew Health Ranger was right. That tape also matches the moving roof actors in yet another tape, who were presumably the source of the second gunshot set.

            All that said, the even greater shocker is that Obama and Holder intentionally left bump stocks in YEARS earlier. What does that mean? They saw the opportunity and began planning a bump stock event long before Vegas. THAT is cold.

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  36. Boots says:

    Back door gun control: redefining “machine gun” opens door to further bans based on vague, nebulous re-defining of “machine gun”. Worth the read.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/12/22/backdoor-gun-control-doj-bump-stocks/

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    • wolfmoon1776 says:

      I think redefining semi-auto is stronger, logically, because it’s more obvious to politicians AND regulators. I’m not as scared of “abstract” and “logical” as I am of “vague” and “nebulous” – the latter are always commie trouble. “Machine gun” is hard to define. Semi-auto fire is easy, and THAT is why ATF has used that – WISELY. They just need to not focus on trigger, but USER.

      I think NRA should only back the BEST. We need strong principles that can’t be undermined by these sneaky commies. They will try to introduce complication – we need PROTECTIVE SIMPLICITY.

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  37. covfefe999 says:

    You have to watch this, just the first few minutes. It was 3 days after the Sandy Hook shooting. Obama’s Press Secretary said even less than what Sarah Sanders said, that the President was going to speak with various people to try to come up with some ideas. None of the press shouted at Obama’s Press Secretary or said rude crap like “Does the President even know what he’s doing? Does he have any idea at all how to handle this problem? Because it looks to me like he doesn’t have any idea” blahblahblahblahblah. Keep in mind that Obama had been in office for nearly 4 years at this point and I think there had been no change in his first term on gun laws. It’s maddening. They hypocrisy.

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  38. MSO says:

    The question that needs to be asked is when, exactly, are we going to do something about school security aside from lawn signs that prohibit guns?

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  39. bulwarker says:

    So they want to ban bump-stocks but still won’t give us a motive for the Vegas shooting………….

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  40. Ditch Mitch says:

    thinking this Stealth Jeff thread belongs here as Stealth Jeff explains why Sarah Sanders is trending :

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966081350741692416.html

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  41. Pjoe says:

    Watched Cspann last night with Sarah and Clinton spox. Mccurry. He kept touching her arm and at one point made a fist and held it against her demanding she admit that Trump is wrong to be at war with the press. You could tell he was barely able to control his rage.

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