Crowd-sourcing Request: FBI, CIA and NSA Leadership Testify Before Congress…

It goes without saying the U.S. institutional media apparatus have cherry-picked the most useful parts of the collective testimony today to frame their necessary talking points. FBI Director Christopher Wray, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lt. Gen. Robert Ashley, NSA Director Adm. Michael Rogers and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency Director Robert Cardillo.

However, with that said, and understanding the aggregate intelligence apparatus are working together with some of the more genuinely significant members of three congressional committees (Chairman Nunes, Chairman Grassley and Chairman Goodlatte); and accepting larger understandings become increasingly worthwhile amid the segments the media apparatus would prefer to overlook; here’s the full congressional testimony of the intelligence agencies:

Feel free to use the comment section to draw attention to any particular points you feel might be of significant interest.  Please note the exact time within the video as it relates to your comment.  Thanks.

(L-R) FBI Director Christopher Wray, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, Defense Intelligence Agency Director Lt. Gen. Robert Ashley, NSA Director Adm. Michael Rogers and National Geospatial Intelligence Agency Director Robert Cardillo

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185 Responses to Crowd-sourcing Request: FBI, CIA and NSA Leadership Testify Before Congress…

  1. MaineCoon says:

    Disregard this first comment. Off topic.

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      Did you read the main post? 😉 Sundance is asking us to watch the 2hr 35min video included with the post and to use the comment section to point out any notable portions.

      There is another thread called the Open Presidential Thread for more general comments.

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  2. Tony says:

    @ 1:18:00 until 1:19:20 .. I want your take on Wrays reply to Collins. She asks about Pres. Trumps allegations of 1)Political bias and 2)corruption at the FBI. At the end of his reply he states , In spite of Media reports. We actually have more then 2 investigations and most of them do a lot to keep Americans safe. WHAT I TAKE FROM THAT : He did not claim the Trump accusations are false. And I am hearing him say there are more then 2 investigations. And those issues are being investigated. (He confirmed not denied the issues are real would sum up my point)

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    • Sandra-VA says:

      My take on that was that he was stating the FBI has many other investigations besides the “muh Russia” stuff.

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    • frankie says:

      As the author of howtobeyourowndetective.com noted, the FBI took a year to investigate allegalons of sexual abuse of several US Olympics teeam gymnasts. He said presumably the FBI had their hands full exonerating Hillary, spying on Mr. Trump, conning their media concubines, and lying to Congress.

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    • ladypenquin says:

      I like the neither “confirm or deny” aspect to your question. My take: he did’t deny the President’s concerns and he would have if there was no basis. He then distracts by pointing out other aspects of the organization, “keeping Americans safe.”
      “more than two investigations” can mean anything. Be great if it meant they’re delving into the corruption of the highest levels of his department, and other agencies.

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      • All American Snowflake says:

        Maybe Wray needed to point out that the FBI was doing some good things, too. Something like a doghouse-husband needs to bring red roses to the table.

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  3. Bill says:

    I think the following is the reason, for Susan Race to email herself, on January 5, 2017. Director Mike Rogers’s actions must have alarmed the Obama Administration.

    “♦ On Thursday November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Mike Rogers traveled to New York and met with President-Elect Donald Trump.

    ♦ On Friday November 18th The Washington Post reported on a recommendation in “October” that Mike Rogers be removed from his NSA position:

    The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the

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  4. The Jimmy Jack says:

    I happened to have this in earlier today and commented throughout it – wish I would have written it down. If I get time I’ll go back again.

    Trump was pretty fiery during this and there was some significant back and forth. The female present seemed heavy handed and shrill.

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  5. The Jimmy Jack says:

    He’s in trouble and he knows it. He’s trying to come out swinging.

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  6. MikeN says:

    Dianne Feinstein posted a Democratic response to the Grassley memo. Mostly trying to defend the dossier and pointing out that Grassley doesn’t attack the dossier.
    Strange claim is that Grassley’s memo does not have any evidence that the FBI asked Steele about contacts with the media. She doesn’t say the FBI didn’t ask Steele, just that Grassley doesn’t establish they did.

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    • billrla says:

      MikeN: I sleep soundly knowing that the good senior senator from California is three years older than my dear old widowed mother who lives downstairs and keeps up with current events by reading the LA Times and watching NBC. [Eyes rolling until nothing shows but the white part]

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      • rlc970582410 says:

        Concur- I doubt that DiFi is processing well enough anymore to be useful, other than a stuffed owl, to read what her staffers cook up for her. Same for Pelosi, btw. Its the staff that run DC, as insiders well know, and given how corrupt and arrogantly left wing, the center of that would be at Senate Intel, where Warner felt free to do deals on the side, and Burr is apparently on his way out, possibly compromised.
        I can barely stand the thought of Kamala Harris sitting there, given what a completely corrupt anti-gun radical she was before- but am comforted she is just barely brighter than old Box-a-Rox she replaced, and likely to under-impress while over-reaching for the cameras, too.

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  7. BigMamaTEA says:

    Sd, let’s start here. This is DNI Coats Opening statement to the Committee

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/os-dcoats-021318.PDF

    Starting hearing watching in about 15 minutes.

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    • positron1352 says:

      Thank you, Big Mama. Very interesting read.

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      • rlc970582410 says:

        +1, and alarming given how mis-managed our national security has been for last 9 years.
        Time for some real a$$-kicking and alligator killing, to drain this swamp.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      At around 32:27 I liked his observation, speaking of Europe, he made what he thought to be two important points, the first being

      “the continent’s center of gravity appears to be shifting to France where President Macron has taken a more assertive role in addressing European and global challenges, the results of the recent German elections, I think, enforce that assessment. Second, recent efforts by some governments in central and eastern Europe to undermine judicial independence and parliamentary oversight and increased government control over public media are weakening the rules of law. These steps could further presage further democratic decline and offer opportunity for Chinese and Russian influence.”

      Interesting observation about France. This adds to observations a year ago here at the Treehouse how our VSG-PDJT sensed something in the young Macron and seemed to be a taking him under PDJT’s wings.

      Am only an hour and one half in, a lot of politics being played in their questions, makes one wonder how these folks got elected.

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      • LafnH20 says:

        How do they stay awake?!?

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      • S. Armaticus says:

        Wow. Where is Coats getting his information from?

        W/r/t CEE, how wrong can one be?

        Hungary is trying to free itself from the Soro’s NGO’s which are trying to subvert the will of the electorate.

        As for Poland, they just reformed their post-communist court system. In the old system, “familial clans” had complete control of appointing judges. The democratically elected representatives had no say. These nepotistic structures were put in place under the Fake Round Table accords where the old communists kept control of the country through the courts. Now the courts have been liberated and a lot of the crooks are finally being brought to justice. As for the media, 90% of local media is owned by the Germans. The largest newspaper is controlled by people from a Soros NGO. Last year, Soros had to buy a 10% stake to keep the paper afloat and keep his NGO’s in control. As for the Germans, Axle Springer (Swiss/German) has been caught sending editorial instructions to the local for how they want the “news presented”. Talk about colonialism, this was prima facia evidence.

        Sorry for the rant…

        I am amazed that Coats or his staff don’t know this.

        Stunning…

        Anyways, the Obama trash are being taken out. News came out yesterday that the Trump adminstration is putting in a new ambassador in place in Warsaw. Georgette Mosbacher so State should be getting a much better picture of objective reality in Poland in the near future.

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        • ladypenquin says:

          I think there are still a lot of Obama staffers around or are ignorant or sabotaging information. Did you catch this? Sounds like a lefty staffer made sure to put it in;
          note the “climate change” and more importantly,
          ” publics become less trusting of authoritative information sources.” As in, the public isn’t going to buy the State’s propaganda…spoken like true globalists, empire oriented thinkers.

          “Challenges from urbanization and migration will persist, while the effects of air pollution,
          inadequate water, and climate change on human health and livelihood will become more
          noticeable. Domestic policy responses to such issues will become more difficult—especially for
          democracies—as publics become less trusting of authoritative information sources.”

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  8. Niagara Frontier says:

    I appreciated Rubio’s shifting of the subject from Russia to the bigger threat China, and the dangers posed by Chinese professors, students and scientists LEGALLY in the United States (at 1:05 in the tape.) Many are foreign agent.

    This issue touches trade, immigration and national security policy, and again the media is asleep at the switch.

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  9. Craig from Scotland says:

    To Mark Warner opening comments.
    I’m amazed Warner can sit there and suggest collusion while everyone knows about his texting a bought and paid for Russian State lobbyist –

    https://www.scribd.com/document/371101285/TEXTS-Mark-Warner-texted-with-Russian-oligarch-lobbyist-in-effort-to-contact-Christopher-Steele
    ‘TEXTS: Mark Warner texted with Russian oligarch lobbyist in effort to contact Christopher Steele.’


    11th February 2018
    Nigel Farage: ‘George Soros funds campaign to thwart Brexit’

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  10. XCRunner says:

    At 40:35 Sen Cotton asked about the oligarch connected to the lobbyist that Sen Warner secretly texted. Fox News published the texts between Warner and lobbyist Adam Waldman, a man who had lobbied the U.S. government for oligarch Oleg V. Deripaska, who lost his visa “in 2006 because of charges, which he has denied, that he has organized crime ties.”

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  11. billrla says:

    The greatest deficiency in U.S. intellegence is lack of competent oversight. Our elected overseers are a bunch of geriatrics, dim-wits, drunkards, grifters and social justice warriors.

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    • rlc970582410 says:

      So has it always been. That why we need a strong executive with great talent, not a bunch of Chicago Thugz on the grift, fluffed by communication majors and talking heads.

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    • Vanityofvanities says:

      Government secrecy is “the tool” used to inflict a death of a thousand cuts upon a free people. Anyway, government oversight bodies can only oversee what they know of …..and damnit folks….. clandestine organizations are …well…clandestine!
      By now any self respecting clandestine service would be self- funding and any government funds allocated would be icing on the cake!
      If I where to see hundreds of officials and operatives endited, convicted, wealth confiscated and hung THAN I might began to believe there was real hope for a real flourishing of true American freedom and personal self determination based on The Constitution and Bill of Rights but until than I will believe what we are seeing is just another dog and pony show……..and a few more wounds are endured by the Republic!!

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  12. Niagara Frontier says:

    For those wanting to capture text of the remarks, the link below to C-SPAN includes the text of the speakers captured from the uncorrected Closed Captioning. The same video is also broken down into segments by speaker that also might help you focus your sourcing.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?440888-1/fbi-director-rob-porter-background-check-completed-july

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    • yakmaster2 says:

      From the website posted above by Niagra Frontier:
      At 1:11:07 on C-Span video, Wray lists 3 dates in the FBI background investigation for Rob Porter’s Security Clearance. He says it was finished in March, but extended (for some reason) to July when it was completed, but then re-opened (additional info? a request?) until November. Then AGAIN, it’s EXTENDED until January??

      What was going on with the FBI? Were they unable to prove or disprove the abuse claims on Porter?

      AND HOW DOES THE OFFICE OF PERSONNEL SECURITY figure into this?? WAS THAT OFFICE ( of CAREER employees, as Sarah Sanders has made a point about at least twice during Press Conferences) keeping info from Kelly??

      Has that office been playing games by slow-walking final approval and/or denial of Security Clearances?

      Something is fishy about this whole Porter “scandal.”
      Again, I go back to the fact that Sarah Sanders has mentioned that office twice and emphasized they are career employees.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        yakmaster……That was questions by “sufferin’ succatash” Wyden. Wray said that a partial background check was completed in March- “final” in July. POTUS requested a follow-up which was done in Jan. Then Wray said that earlier this month new information came in, and they advised the WH per protocol.

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        • beach lover says:

          If I had to guess, when I heard that testimony, They knew about the abuse allegations but punted as “he said, she said”. Only, when the NEW stuff came out a few weeks ago (by whom, I would like to know), did they see the pictures. The pictures were the straw that broke him. How can that be used against Kelly/Trump?

          As I stated earlier.. I remember in the Clinton WH, the security clearances taking so long for many around the President, that they never did receive it in 8 years! many surmised because they would not have passed it, for various reasons like drug use, etc. That may seem innocent in comparison to spousal abuse, but 20 years ago it would have been embarrassing and obviously a bigger deal if it was public. Point is, those things take a lot of time and someone to me is working on the inside to get rid of Kelly and of course embarrass Trump’s team as incompetent.

          Amazing how this is coming out just when the whole Obama WH and IC is coming under scrutiny.

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      • ladypenquin says:

        Recall that Peter Strzok is parked in Office of Personnel management. In fact, as “head” of the Dept. This has bothered me on a number of levels. Why, (if he is) functioning as head of personnel? Too much power in that position – unless they just have him shuffling paper clips.

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    • yakmaster2 says:

      From the website posted above by Niagra Frontier:
      At 1:11:07 on C-Span video, Wray lists 3 dates in the FBI background investigation for Rob Porter’s Security Clearance. He says it was finished in March, but extended (for some reason) to July when it was completed, but then re-opened (additional info? a request?) until November. Then AGAIN, it’s EXTENDED until January??

      What was going on with the FBI? Were they unable to prove or disprove the abuse claims on Porter?

      AND HOW DOES THE OFFICE OF PERSONNEL SECURITY figure into this?? WAS THAT OFFICE ( of CAREER employees, as Sarah Sanders has made a point about at least twice during Press Conferences) keeping info from Kelly??

      Has that office been playing games by slow-walking final approval and/or denial of Security Clearances?

      Something is fishy about this whole Porter “scandal.”
      Again, I go back to the fact that Sarah Sanders has mentioned that office twice and emphasized they are career employees.

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      • WSB says:

        I agree about this nonsense with Porter.

        This was on Thomas Paine’s Twitter account,

        I am wondering two things. If this is true, Wray’s testimony may be purposefully vague if Porter’s info had been hidden when he first got into the WH, but it has been rumored that he was being promoted, so is it possible that he was going through a stiffer security clearance and, yes, Kelly just found out about it? Is the WH security staff involved?

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        • WSB says:

          And did the ex-wives sign NDA’s until they were released? Funny that suddenly all of these women were interviewed between Thursday and Friday.

          “Well Ma’am, since the story has been leaked, we are obligated to release you from your NDA.”

          Maybe someone should ask.

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        • yakmaster2 says:

          The Truepundit article Thomas Paine tweeted makes sense. I also strongly suspect this Porter security clearance “scandal” was a set-up to embarrass the WH.

          As for Wray, he’s either a clueless putz, a willfully ignorant tool, or FBI loyal damage management man. Pitiful!

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  13. Thomas Anderson says:

    At 1:26:15, Democrat Sen. Heinrich asks FBI Director Wray about his concerns with Nunes Memo.

    Paraphrasing, FBI director Wray says that taking thousands of documents and lots and lots of briefings; that it’s hard to reduce to 3 and a half pages of the Nunes Memo

    I can’t wait to see more documents…..

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    • rf121 says:

      I suppose Wray never heard of Cliff Notes.

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    • bessie2003 says:

      Wray’s in a tough spot, representing all of the agents in the Bureau who are hard working and dong their best vs. (I think) being limited in what can be openly said regarding any investigations of the circle of political hacks within the bureau who are under appropriate scrutiny; think this is where he mentioned there are more than two investigations going on.

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  14. Payday says:

    I posted this in the wrong thread. Did Wray commit perjury when he said there’s no bias in the fbi? We have it on text.

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    • rf121 says:

      It is his opinion.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      No, because the sematic being used , either purposely or naively, phrase all the questions in the PRESENT TENSE. The actual questions about the FBI should be phrased and answered in PAST TENSE. This would eliminate all the media “Trumps war on law enforcement” narrative in on breath. Also, the WH and Wray need to jointly clarify this point. Until the time these two things occur, the fake tension and issues with the DoJ and FBI will persist.

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  15. tvollrath66 says:

    At the same time he asked if the dossier is still unverified and salacious. He would not answer in open setting. Around 1:56

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  16. Ziiggii says:

    SMH – SD asks for help going through today’s hearing and more than half the comments have absolutely NOTHING to do with the hearing! WTF is going on!?! (rhetorical)

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  17. Brant says:

    Wow. Stealth Jeff noted Rice sent her email after Trump sworn in so it would NOT be part of Obama’s archives (and I guess hidden forever).

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  18. nyetneetot says:

    2:35:30 – THEY STOP TALKING! THANK YOU!

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      nyet! You’re not helping. {you bad boy! ha!)

      AND, I SUPPORT ZIIGGII! THIS is a special thread. If you want to chit-chat, go on the Daily Open thread.

      We have been SPECIFICALLY asked to crowd-source this hearing. Some of us around this joint do RESEARCH DAILY ANYWAY, and report in so Sd can keep up.

      THIS particular thread IS NOT A CHAT THREAD! Unless you are watching/listening to the actual HEARING and reporting in anything significant…..bugger off to another thread!

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  19. Brant says:

    2:01:00 Senator Kamela Harris starts spouting about Nunes memo revealing classified stuff. I’m not good with words and haven’t watched her entire spew, but it starts there.

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  20. simicharmed says:

    MOST Democrat legislators should not be allowed to ask question….each and every one of them are conflicted in the matter! They are.. Think about any legal arena in these matters…many of these people could (and are) co-conspirators in various matters…Every Democrat voted against many matters discussed here today. Think about that fact…. All these things are related and in LAW these same things disqualifies parties from said actions…

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  21. GB Bari says:

    Wray actually agreed that he could answer the question in a closed meeting (implying the answer is sensitive snd not ready for prime time).

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  22. Isn’t the use of social media by foreign actors disinformation?
    And if so, wouldn’t an educated public defeat that?

    Every time I hear about the “Russians” using of social media it centers on planting false stories.
    I’m not sure that first, you can ever stop that since it’s been going on for as long as anyone can remember.
    And secondly, far beyond what any Russians have done is the fact that the American MSM has done far more damage.

    They have all built their empires on the fact that they will misdirect stories reported to favor one person and harm the other.
    They are no longer reporting facts. Actually, there is no reporting anything. It’s a constant barrage of attacking one person and heaping praise on another.

    When you have a talk show host telling their audience that Trump lies 95% of the time and others like Politico have proven that, there’s a problem.
    Not that someone would say it but that people would believe it.
    That didn’t come from a planted story or propaganda from a foreign actor.
    That is coming straight from the American MSM.

    You have a MSM that will attack their own VP on foreign soil and make him look bad and turn around and praise a political member of a foreign country that tortures and kills it’s own people.
    That seems like a bigger problem than someone planting phony stories.

    I will submit that not one Russian story did anything to change the voting patterns of anyone.
    If you liked Hillary and read something you didn’t agree with that was a planted lie, it made you want to vote for her even more.
    But I have strong doubts that anyone who wanted Hillary would change their minds and vote for DJT because of any story on social media.

    This whole idea that Americans are to naive or to ignorant and were lead down that road is to me, absurd.

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    • AZ18 says:

      Hey are…what timestamp is your comment covering?

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      • At about 47 minutes when Warner starts taking about Social media.
        It genuinely ticks me off.
        It starts a whole process in my head thinking that if you are susceptible to a Russian planted story that would cause you to change your vote by reading it, you just may be to ignorant to have the right to vote.

        I also can think of NO story that could be as bad as what our own media has done or is doing still.
        And the simple truth that any and every story can be instantly checked by anyone using a phone or a computer leads me to believe that this is a total waste of time and energy to spend this much time developing a strategy to defeat this non event.

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  23. The Boss says:

    Go to 1:55:19 through 1:56:30 for all the subjects mentioned by Tom Cotton that are more appropriate to be covered in the classified briefing. Wray looked like he was smiling each time he answered Cotton. Would have loved seeing the expression on Warner’s face during this 71-second Q&A portion.

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Boss, he was, and so was Cotton. And btw, Warner was more subdued in this Hearing than others I’ve watched.

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      • The Boss says:

        I think the reasons for Warner’s subdued demeanor is evident during a 6-second window of his opening statement (from 0:8:45 through 0:8:51). I rewound this little loop several times using the C-SPAN link Niagara Frontier posted up-thread at 10:00 PM.

        When Warner was posturing about the committee “having the [IC’s] back”, you’ve got to look at expressions on Mike Pompeo’s and Admiral Roger’s faces. Talk about icy stares, or, if looks could kill. The remaining witnesses didn’t appear particularly enamored with Warner either.

        You could almost sense that they were thinking “Yeah Warner, as if you’ll have our back. How about instead we have your head on a pike?”

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        • ladypenquin says:

          It’s fun to think how these greasy slime Congress critters now know that their misdeeds are known. IOW, in the back of their minds, they must realize all their theatrics and posturing – which have worked nicely in the past – aren’t really fooling the people who count.

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  24. My take from this, is Wray doesn’t like Trump much! He claims no political bias in the FBI at 1hr 20min

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  25. formerdem says:

    I don’t think this matters much but i was interested that the Democrats are continuing to hit the panic button over Russian interference (10:30 approx) and that they say Trump does not take this as seriously as they wish he would. I don’t know what to think. Does it mean they are doubling down on a stupid story Russia Russia which Trump ignores because it is not actually significant? Or does Trump think it is significant and they are misstating his actual views because they still feel they have something to gain by accusing him of treason?

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  26. Rynn69 says:

    A typical televised and orchestrated dog and pony show here. Remember what has been said about the Senate Intel Committee specifically — corrupted to the core. Nobody is listening to these drones.

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  27. wheatietoo says:

    Sen King seemed rather ‘concerned’ about Cyber Security.
    He kept hammering about “what deterrents” we have and any punishment that we can do, for cyber attacks against us.

    At about 1:39 Director Pompeo deflected King’s curiosity…and said that he would rather answer that in private.
    Pompeo said it’s not something that we would want our enemies to know.

    Further in that exchange, at about 1:41, DNI Coats mentions he agrees with the need for “retribution” and a “response” to attacks, but doesn’t elaborate.

    Sen Lankford takes over and stays on that subject, asking about ‘who’ is going to replace Admiral Rogers as head of Cyber Command.
    Coats says that the decision is ongoing.
    Then Pompeo jumps in and says that the decision ultimately lies with SecDef Mattis, on ‘who’ will be heading up Cyber Command.

    Maybe it’s just me…but it sounded like there was a hint that they would be splitting up NSA & Cyber Command, with a new position just as the head of Cyber Command.
    Which seems like a good idea to me.
    Just heading up the NSA is a huge job in itself.
    And Cyber Command is another huge job.

    I thought that this whole exchange was interesting/em>, in light of what may be going on with the ‘Brotherhood of the Orb’.

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  28. Emblematic says:

    It’s infuriating how the Republicans, whilst disputing the claims of Trump “collusion” with Russia, still accept the original claim that Russia hacked the DNC and John Podesta, when this claim is in fact based on the dubious authority of Democrat-funded Crowdstrike.

    Continuing to accept the ‘Russia hacked the DNC’ narrative gives cover and continuing fuel for the Mueller witch hunt.

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  29. BigMamaTEA says:

    Sd, I’ll be back later to document the Hearing, I’m doing it, just not going to comment on the thread as I go along. First step…..introduce all the witnesses. I’ve got a pretty good idea about a major number of different alphabet agencies in the Fed. gov’t; but was not familiar with this one.

    *****It has a classified budget. As recent as 2013 it was discovered that for that year it had a $4.9 BILLION dollar budget, and employs 16,000 people.

    The who, where, when & why……….

    Per wikipedia…..National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA) started out in 1996 as National Imagery and Mapping Agency ( NIMA) –

    NIMA combined the DMA, the Central Imagery Office (CIO), and the Defense Dissemination Program Office (DDPO) in their entirety, and the mission and functions of the NPIC. Also merged into NIMA were the imagery exploitation, dissemination, and processing elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, and the Defense Airborne Reconnaissance Office.

    With the enactment of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 on November 24, 2003,[21] NIMA was renamed NGA to better reflect its primary mission in the area of GEOINT.

    As a part of the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) process, all major Washington, D.C.-area NGA facilities, would be consolidated at a new facility at the Fort Belvoir proving grounds. This new facility, called the NGA Campus East is situated on the former Engineer Proving Ground site near Fort Belvoir, Springfield, Virginia.

    The cost of the new center, as of March 2009, was expected to be $2.4 billion. The center’s campus is approximately 2,400,000 square feet (220,000 m2) and was completed in September 2011.

    Jurisdiction- U.S. Department of Defense

    In addition to using GEOINT for U.S. military and intelligence efforts, the NGA provides assistance during natural and man-made disasters, and security planning for major events such as the Olympic Games.

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    • wheatietoo says:

      At 1:43:30 DNI Coats mentions something called “C-Tick” that I had never heard of before.

      Not sure what the correct letters are for it, that’s just how it sounded.
      Could be CTIC or CTICC.

      He mentioned it was a “coordination effort” for information coming in, so that it wouldn’t get “stove piped like before 9/11”.

      So maybe ‘C-Tick’ refers to Cyber Technical Information Center?
      …or Information Collection Center or Command?

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      • Aubergine says:

        CTC or C-tick is a national security check:

        Counter Terrorist Check (CTC) or (CTC Cleared)
        The Counter-Terrorist Check (CTC) is most commonly required by police, legal agencies and government agencies hiring contractors. A CTC will normally take up to six months to complete and is usually valid for 3 years.

        What is a CTC?
        The purpose of the CTC is to prevent persons who may have connections with terrorist organisations, or who may be vulnerable to pressure from them, from undertaking certain security duties where sensitive information may be compromised.

        A CTC does not allow access, knowledge or custody of protectively marked assets and information, but the Baseline Personnel Security Standard (outlined above, and normally undertaken as part of the recruiting process) does unlock some restrictions. It is carried out as part of the CTC as part of the vetting process, along with:

        Departmental / Company Records Check
        Security Questionnaire
        Criminal Record Check
        Security Service Check
        What IT jobs does it apply to?
        CTC Security Clearance is needed by IT professionals whose work involves:

        • close proximity to public figures

        • giving access to information or material vulnerable to terrorist attack

        • unrestricted access to certain government or commercial establishments assessed to be at risk from terrorist attack

        To gain CTC clearance you’ll normally need to have been a UK resident for a minimum of 3 years. Occasionally it may also be necessary to attend an interview with a DfT security officer. At the end of the vetting process, the information is assessed and a decision made to refuse or approve a CTC clearance.

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  30. rlc970582410 says:

    I’m still giving Wray the benefit of the doubt, despite his somewhat arrogant manner- that may be just how he looks, or his disgust with Senate Intell Committee in general, which is widely held to be leaky and untrustworthy.

    I think he and Cotton have an understanding- both know how the dog and pony show goes, and the real work is going to come from Nunes and Grassley, with cloakroom coordination on the closed session testimony, no matter where it occurs.

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  31. BigMamaTEA says:

    This Hearing today is titled….” World Wide Threats to our Nation”

    In Chairman Burr’s Opening statement, he makes reference to the fact that this hearing is an ANNUAL Hearing, then thanks all involved and the Intel Agencies, and says he appreciates how much this witness panel looks forward to this annual event.

    Burr addressed each witness and what he would be interested in today. When he came to Wray, Burr said he was particularly interested in the threat of foreign technology coming into the USA that has been prepackaged by overseas vendors, especially China.

    To NGA Director Cardillo……Burr stated “We’ve come to associate the NGA with the modernization of the Intelligence community. The adversaries of this country are innovating faster and with fewer constraints than we are. Burr hopes that the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency with the computer work and innovation there, NGA will become the bridge to help us get there.

    Roughly 008.00, Vice Chair Warner gave his Opening statement. Lots of thank you’s. Then Warner stated that “competitors and adversaries particularly in the last few years were conducting asymmetrical attacks.
    Then Warner starts russia, russia, russia. Warner states that Electoral activities in 21 states had attacks from Russia during the last election.

    Then Warner states “The President continues to deny the threat posed by Russia!”

    This sets up the “false pretense” that comes later.

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  32. waltherppk says:

    Every time I see Wray I am reassured Barney Fife is right on top of things…. just like Comey was right on top of things …..but maybe I am just too cynical

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    • TomF says:

      Sometimes you are too cynical.
      This is one of them.
      Why snipe at the man. There’s nothing he’s done to indicate he’s a bad guy.
      Some questions cannot be answered in the open forum.
      There are ongoing investigations that need NOT be compromised.

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      • waltherppk says:

        Yeah you could be right ….maybe I am too cynical. And maybe the State of Florida should be reimbursed for the funeral expenses of the school shooting victims since Barney Fife as good as killed them. But then maybe that is just my cynicism talking again. The Japanese have a way of personal accountability for losing face and screwing up. It involves a sword and rice paper and nobody doubts the sincerity of the apology.
        Could be something there that is missing from the sense of honor and duty typical in Western “civilization” and its Dindu Nuffin clusterf##k denier crowd.

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  33. Deb says:

    46:06 Warner uses the phrase “Russian intervention” instead of “Russian interference” when talking about the election.

    A deliberate rhetorical shift.

    Around 40:40 there is an interesting exchange regarding AI and data analysis that ties in with the topic of Chinese IP theft and cyber security. Very interesting exchange.

    I haven’t had a chance to watch the whole thing and I don’t have time to post much. Just wanted to throw out something I found interesting.

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    • DerpAnon says:

      I too am noting the 40:00 mark. The answers to AI seemed rehearsed. Mentions of what China and our private sector are doing are deflections from undisclosed efforts by our own security agencies.

      My cynical conclusion is that AI, or “machine learning” is already in wide use to process the incredible amount of data that is hoovered daily, to such an extent that they just don’t want us to know more at this time.

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      • PS says:

        As someone who has studied this, yes, what we call AI is really just pattern matching based on probabilities against training data. Big Data is just trying to fish patterns out of unorganized data, of which AI is a tool in the toolbox. AI can blindly sort through tons of info, but does not have “context” or understanding. It works well with digitized images, audio, and text. At the end of the day, remind yourself Correlation Is Not Causation. I imagine AI is extensively used as the Tier 1 screen of everything, which is then tagged for Tier 2 human review for intent.

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  34. Bull Durham says:

    Pick any statement any of these bozos made about China or Russia and you have a paranoia expounded as National Security.

    Wray: China’s society as a whole is a threat to America.
    1:07:00 (It really begins with Big Ears Rubio wailing about China around 1:04:00 or so)
    Then Wray complains that the 250,000 students from China are a threat to us. Amazing! Right down to small towns where they are, not just big academic centers. (Yellow Peril anyone?)

    Parse that one statement and tell me, does it mean Peking duck, ping pong, ice sculptures in Harbin, green tea or oolong tea, these sorts of things are a threat? Maybe Daoism or the game of GO? Oh its Confucianism. I see. We have to fear a many thousand year old philosophy.

    I’m embarrassed that the Director of the FBI is such an ignoramus to make a public statement like that.

    I’ve spent 16 years studying China, have many Chinese friends, some quite dear. China is no more a threat than England. They are competition. It will be 20-30 years before they come close to our economy. And their demographics does not bode well for them.

    The threat between the two nations is wholly on the USA. We are trying to contain China. That is not a healthy thing to do. Combined with our violent military thrusts at Russia, the government of the US is looking for a war it cannot limit nor win. Why?

    Americans are not afraid of competition. Especially, now we have Leader who is empowering American enterprise, creativity, innovation, invention and expansion domestically, why are we pursuing some Imperialist, Hegemonic goals?

    The dais of bozos today, paranoids, reckless inventors of enemies, liars, were a pantheon of weak representatives of America First-MAGA People. No one who is a red-blooded American is afraid of competing with any nation. We can do it all.

    The Chinese are a wonderful people, enormously talented, highly energetic and love most everything American. To worry about Confucius Institute is a level of mental aberration fit for institutionalization. The philosophy is a moral philosophy of China.

    I’m stunned by but not surprised by today’s ideological vaudeville.

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    • Zimbalistjunior says:

      Ya America is probably worried about China because of their nuclear weapons,their stealing intellectual property including military, their artificial manipulation of their currency, their attempts at hegemony over their region.

      All of which would amount to little if the country was democratic and or would respect human rights. Call me when it is.

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      • Bull Durham says:

        Two years ago China had 250 nuke warheads built for a mild second strike. That’s 100 less than Israel has.
        Today, they have 2500 warheads (or are building towards that total). They have build more, new weapons.

        That’s all based on US containment strategy and geopolitics.

        They used to have a green water navy. Now it’s blue water.
        They have hypersonic strike vehicles, and plane-launched missiles.
        They have proven carrier killer missiles and satellite killer weapons.

        All in reaction to hegemonic moves by the US.

        I could list every major investment they have made around the third world and developing countries, and show you how the US has created chaos in the nation and region to block, undermine and ruin those investments. Nearly all the investments were infrastructure deals, none were military. Just imagine if they did that to US investments.

        These are hard cold facts.

        It’s what the MIC loves–a chimera. Trillions for them because of the “threats”.

        I prefer competition and a multi-polar world.
        It doesn’t mean we stand down and let others push us around.
        It means we stand up and compete.

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        • TexasDude says:

          Hmmm. Not the same Bull, it appears.

          China is both a threat and a cheating economic competitor.

          As Trump noted, as Sundance noted in a newer, different thread, China dumps US steel in a manner so as to get caught hopefully.

          China also goes around NAFTA rules in regards to car parts.

          To do business in China, American companies cannot just set up shop, the must partner. Not that long ago, China admonished US companies that are in China for not having a long view of things.

          Funny, all the while China steals our copyrighted tech and dumps all over our industries.

          Being a Chinese apologist doesn’t look good on you Bull.

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    • WSB says:

      All I can tell you is that during my reunion a couple years back, I went through a studio tour. 75% of the people I saw in the studio were Chinese. It was dumbfounding.

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    • Buck says:

      Your right Bull, these clowns are going to get a bunch of people killed.
      This massive, muLti trillion dollar ‘IC’ is mostly broken and compromised. Same as it ever was.

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  35. delmarvajim says:

    Around the 8 minute mark during Warner’s opening remarks, I had a hard time trying to figure out if I was listening to the DNC talking points or if he was reading a WAPO op-ed. He almost sounded like he was running through a CYA process. I think after all of the truth comes out, we will see some poo on Warner’s shoes. Big time

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    • ladypenquin says:

      They’re DNC talking points. Warner is a good little Democrat drone. Snake of a Senator.

      For folks info, Mark Warner was a big “businessman” before being elected senator here in Virginia. That fact is actually relevant when thinking in terms of what international contacts/familiarity he would have been able to take to the Senate with him. His businessman history in Virginia would have given him awareness of Russian business activities and contacts.

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  36. Mary Palmer says:

    Re the whole thing is not what you want to let the world to know. Would China or Russia go on TV and tell the world what they are afraid of?
    Some things should be in private regarding National Security this is one of them

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  37. trialbytruth says:

    kamala harris 2:02:50 asks Wray IF President trump were to receive information on the ongoing investigation whether or not he could declassify it. Wray responded i think so and then ask from where would he get it she suggested congress.

    either she is refering to the Fisa info in the Nines memo OR something else is coming

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  38. trialbytruth says:

    2:05:53 harris makes stink about russian sanction POMPEO defends the sanctions we have put in as being effective strong Potus defense

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  39. Alison says:

    I’ve only gotten through the first hour. I find it interesting that the Russia Russia Russia concerns by Warner (approx 45:00) and some comments by panel express such concern about ability for foreign countries to ‘intervene’ via social media, yet when Sen Risch brings up NKorea & their ‘smile campaign’ at Olympics, neither he nor panel comment on our media’s egregious attempts to brainwash us with the ‘Korean darling of the Olympics’.

    That said, Sen Risch (approx 57:00) does a good job of refuting Warner’s ‘concerns’ & states quite eloquently that Americans are smart & can think for ourselves, even to the extent of discerning attempts to snooker us by falsehoods & fake people on social media.

    My sense is there will be a push by Senators like Warner to get more gov’t intervention in use of social media “for our own good”. It’s one more way govt will gain control in the name of ‘security’.

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  40. Donzo says:

    Anything said by the heads of the various intelligence agencies in an open setting and to the Senate Intelligence Committee is unlikely to be newsworthy here in the Treehouse, though I did enjoy watching some of the antics – reminded me of actors in a silent movie.

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    • WSB says:

      But the demeanor and small odd instances are important if you watch closely. SD’s point is well represented by the Stafanik/Comey testimony. One small question, and one nailed answer.

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  41. WSB says:

    Around 1:09:20

    Rubio and Wray discuss Confucius Institutes at universities. It is a lot more prevalent than most people understand.

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  42. WSB says:

    1:10:30 Widen starts in at Wray about Porter.

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  43. BigMamaTEA says:

    Sd, I’ve got the whole thing summary-noted and time stamped. If you want it all let me know.

    Otherwise, nothing that wasn’t expected, a few good points made by some R’s, Most D’s with the exception of Manchin, were “russia, russia, russia” Kamala DeVille was calmer than normal; but more rapid fire, and she still has not read the Constitution and grasped an understanding of the division of powers.

    Sen. Slurr, was definitely buzzed, IMO. Warner was more subdued; but still set the Demonrat tone.

    The witness panel did a pretty decent job. When they were pushed for a yes or no ( i.e.Senator Slurr) on whether or not Trump gave a direct order on prevent Russia for 2018 election…..there was a silent pause, with all dead still. THAT was great! But they also all appeared to know the limitation of their jobs legally, even more so than the Senators.

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    • Lburg says:

      Thanks for all that work, BMT. Isn’t it interesting that Russian interference/intervention/shenaigans has the committee’s panties all bunched up when they KNEW (or should have) our government invited the Russians into the game?

      Does anyone remember Russian programmers without security clearances (and still living in Russia) being used by DoD contractors?
      http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/11/06/military-contractors-used-russian-programmers-for-dod-projects/

      The elections were interfered with by the Russians is attempted ‘look at the birdie’ – I believe that the truth will come out that the elections were interfered with – by the democrat machine via DHS.

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        Lburg, you are correct! I have stmts of a couple of State election boards that talk of DHS. I need to go check that file. One of the states, had computer-savvy staff, who traced the IP back to .gov!!!!!

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      • BigMamaTEA says:

        I know Lburg! While watching, I was screaming at my monitor about Hilldabeast and Slick Willy GIVING the Chinese access to our technology for $$$$ and it never stopped. That Clinton Foundation research that I’ve done and most of it by Charles Ortel, just blows my mind , how much, and where from big bucks came in from all of these countries!!!!!!

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    • EternalVigilanc3 says:

      After the hearing cspan kept the cameras on for sometime. I noticed Manchin went to go talk to Wray and it seemed a lengthy conversation was taking place. May not be anything to it. Just stood out to me.

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  44. asdf says:

    older, but Gowdy grilling Brennan back in March worth reading given what we now know

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/02/11/brennan_house_intelligence_testimony.html

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  45. Charlie says:

    Thinking SD is looking for good researches with request. Is this an interview of sorts?

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    • patternpuzzler says:

      Charlie, the crowdsourcing research method is one which Sundance has used successfully over the years. As proliferate as he is, Sundance cannot individually take in all that is going on. His time would be practically wasted spending the time it would take to go through the hours this hearing spans.

      The Jessica Chambers murder, Ferguson, police shootings, etc are all times the crowdsourcing has been used. There are excellent researchers who post here and by their posting the information here, as some have done, SD can glean what he’s looking for and as a plus, the readers have the benefit of that research, as well.

      As for interviewing, you show yourself in the best light here to Sundance and your fellow readers by the relativity and quality of your post to the point which is the subject of Sundance’s request.

      There used to be a LOT of excellent researchers (and professional researchers) but many have stopped posting here, sadly. If you want a stellar example of outstanding quality crowdsourcing reporting, you need look no further than Big Mama Tea’s responses on this thread.

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    • BigMamaTEA says:

      Charlie…..there is more to this blog than comments. As we’ve grown bigger and bigger, there are lots of people who just chat, which is fine, but; how about helping scour the web for stories of the day that are important, and posting links and a brief description on the Daily thread?

      Very few times has Sd asked for crowd-source researching. We researchers only have so many hours in a day. Sometimes we need h-e-l-p!!!!!!

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  46. Lburg says:

    I did a “find” on the word steel in the transcript SD posted: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-congress-members-cabinet-meeting-trade/

    The word ‘steel’ occurs 80 times and it seems that the assembled ‘honorable’ whatzits are pushing back against manufacturing steel. Huh.

    Mike Lee for example had a classic ‘yeah, but….’ moment (from the transcript):
    And so, even though there may be some job winners from an action like this, I strongly suspect that, as has at times been the case in the past, you would end up with net job losses in the United States.

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  47. distracted2 says:

    I watched the hearing live and don’t think I can stomach it again.

    I came away with a couple of impressions. All of the Porter talks leads me to believe that some of the committee members want John Kelly removed. Trump is more vulnerable with Kelly removed – he’s doing a great job, making him a target – so I hope Trump’s not listening to the little birds who are suggesting he replace Kelly with McCarthy. If they are not successful in having Kelly removed, at the very least they will succeed in making Trump look bad.

    Also, the questions about the cyberattacks, the 2018 election and muh Russia lead me to believe they plan to continue on this path for the foreseeable future, which also makes me think they are gathering intel to carry out a plan to steal enough seats in the house in 2018. They have already succeeded in polluting the water with all of the talk about how vulnerable we are in defending ourselves from another Russian interference.

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    • distracted2 says:

      Forgot to mention that all of the back and forth about Porter just seems overblown to me – not that Porter was fired but about the way it was handled.

      Trey Gowdy’s oversight committee opened an investigation into it last night. The timing is interesting, to say the least. Not only is everyone and their dogs declaring that Kelly should be out, there is now talk about the way classified information was handled, given that Porter is now deemed a risk. I am not kidding. These turkeys are questioning the Trump administration’s handling of classified information.

      Never mind the fact that the handling of classified information wasn’t important enough to question during the Obama administration. And never mind that Porter had worked for Hatch previously and would likely have gone through some kind of background check then.

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    • Q&A says:

      I’m laughing hysterically about Kevin McCarthy being suggested for Kelly’s job. Not only is McCarthy a dolt and gutless, he’s a man-whore whose affair with the nutsy Renee Ellmers cost her the NC Primary and him a chance for the Speaker’s job (if he even wanted it). There’s no walking that history back, especially in today’s “War on Men” climate.

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  48. thedoc00 says:

    This is all very amusing. Yet no where is it ever mentioned that nations have been spying and working to influence the elections as well as government actions of their friends and enemies since the day man actually began to organize into tribes. News flash, the US does the same thing to our friends and enemies.

    Specifically, the Russians created the COMINTERN 100 years ago and the Communist Chinese in 1947 created a similar organization when they came to power. The specific goal of these organizations, as they evolved, has remained to influence our elections, government decisions and social structures. The fact this kabuki theatre, regarding “foreign influence” has been on-going in the media, the government and society in general points to their absolute ignorance and naivety in general. Of course the seriousness and effectiveness of attempts to impact the US have enhanced these efforts.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      The Russians succeeded by exploiting Obama’s Marxists beliefs as well as his desire to move the US to become a Marxist- socialist state and Clinton’s unrequited quest for power.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Forgot to insert the words technology in last sentence……should read, “Of advanced in technology of course has enhanced the seriousness and effectiveness of attempts to impact the US.

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  49. jeans2nd says:

    Have listened through this twice now. There is so much wrong with these Senators’ words. Where to begin?
    Would anyone read it anyway? Doubtful.

    Nearly every single point these Senators were attempting has been, or is in the process of being, handled by Pres Trump, were anyone on that Cmte ever inclined to pay attention. There is much fear and trepidation amongst the Fed workforce at all the changes being made, but the changes are happening nonetheless. This info is reported on the Fed’s own websites.

    Sen Angus King finally explicitly pointed out that there are two separate “Russia” investigations, and explained the diff quite well. No one noticed.

    Sen Susan Collins was asking about a NY Times article that was media reporting on media. The original article was in The Intercept. The CIA was attempting to find out the extent of the cyber theft, not obtain dirt on Pres Trump.
    Reading comprehension is obviously not a strong suit of Sen Collins.

    All the cyber hysteria. Good grief. Encryption is only as good as the next hacker. Any expert – a real hacker – knows that.
    Same with AI. Was working on AI mid-1980s. AI is NOT new.
    The cyber fear should be in the person writing or hacking the code. Any code is only as good as the coder.
    Adm Rogers had some excellent points and suggestions re: cyber. No one listened.

    CIA Dir Pompeo, and to a lesser extent DNI Coates, were attempting to tell the Senate bozos what the Senator’s jobs are. The Senators did not notice.

    As no one has even read this far shall quit now, with one caveat. Every “problem” these Senators delineated can and should be solved with a wee bit of education. Starting with the Senators and Senate staffers.
    No matter. We are educating our contemporaries. Must suffice for now.

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  50. jmclever says:

    At 42:00 Project Maven was mentioned when talking about the tons of information that is swept up in modern Intelligence efforts. Here is a link to Project Maven from the DoD
    https://www.defense.gov/News/Article/Article/1254719/project-maven-to-deploy-computer-algorithms-to-war-zone-by-years-end/

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