Earlier tonight White House Chief of Staff John Kelly sat down for an interview with Fox News host Bret Baier to discuss current political events. Great interview:
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Trump doesn’t need $20 billion to build the Wall. He will get that and more out of Mexico to pay back the amount ultimately they will compromise on (I think Trump gets the $ from the guest worker program in “phase 2”).
I think Trump will be happy to get half of that and still build and substantial Wall on the border. The biggest part of the deal must tie Wall completion to citizenship or any compromise on chain migration. Trump will end visa lottery, get $ for Wall and end the type of chain migration that has been ridiculous over this long while.
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Fetched you from the bin….. 😦
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He ALREADY made Mexico pay for it. In the 12 months prior to Trump’s election, the exchange rate averaged 18.1 Mexican pesos to the dollar. In the 14 months since the election (not including January, as it’s not yet over), the average has been 19.16 pesos to the dollar.
We imported $372.8 billion worth of products from Mexico in 2016. That equates to $31.067 billion per month. Over the 14 months following the election, the stronger dollar has averaged a cost reduction for imports of 5.85% on a monthly basis, and, over 14 months, that translates into a savings (for American consumers) of $24.04 billion.
Trump should be shouting this from the rooftops. He hasn’t even built the wall, yet, but he’s already made Mexico pay for it.
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NYC….do you want to change your “username”? I just deleted a near copy of the above but with a different name.
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NYC- thanks for the info! I’ve learned more about economics from my fellowTreepers than I ever did in college. Much appreciated.
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In a campaign, candidates simplify things to get the main idea across. The aim is still to have an impermeable barrier. However, it’s a “wall system” which deals with all the complexities of the terrain & needs of the people on the border. The plan was constructed by the experts who guard the border. They know the conditions on the ground, and what is needed.
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Everybody is reporting he did… more of their fake news…
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Bannon claimed executive privilege. All JK confirmed was the WH did not tell him he could.
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I know he claimed privilege. Multiple reports that WH told him to and that his attorney called WH on a break for other instructions as to privilege after leaving WH..
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There is was no executive priviledge until after Trump won the election. They agreed that no questions would be asked regarding the period after the election, but the Congress reneged on the agreement, causing Bannon to invoke the Presidents priviledge.
The priviledge is assumed unless it is waived, and Bannon could have gotten in deep sh*t if he had answered those questions without Trump waiving his priviledge.
It almost seems to me like they tried to set Bannon up to disclose priviledged information in his testimony.
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Thanks cleaner.
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Some kind of game is being played here. Nunes allowed the subpoena in middle of testimony. Why would he do that?
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my eyebrow was raised a bit… kinda like a hair on my neck but it was my brow
Perhaps i am taking Kelley wrong but ….
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What is causing your hair to raise? Do tell.
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it was his disclosure about “Trumps evolving” on the wall, I just got the distinct impression that Kelley perhaps is not being the best influence on the whole wall/DACA deal.
That WAPO quote was damning IMO and Kelley never denounced saying those things.
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Whenever Trump has floated backing off a campaign promise, his base has hit back, and Trump has reversed to his original position.
Think DACA.
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I don’t see PDJT wavering at all
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Sometimes PDJT’s words appear wavering (more likely intentionally mis interperted).
Deb, I don’t believe PDJT wavers at all either.
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I also notice Kelly talks too much. TMI!
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It’s not that PDJT wavers, it’s that Kelly says things like evolving on the wall, or that he had really changed on DACA that makes people go “Whoa.” Kelly leans DACA and is not as forceful about the wall as Kris Kobach would be.
This causes PDJT to have to reiterate his position about the wall.
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I believe that the term “evolving” came into the political lexicon during the Obama administration. And I believe everyone does evolve in their thinking. If they didn’t they would not be thinking.
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EXACTLY.
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I noticed that with Kelly 2 or 3 months ago.
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Meh…
We all know there are mountains and places we don’t need a wall.
I get it.
We all get it.
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we do get it, but that’s not exactly what bugged me about kelley in that interview
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Somehow I think he may have been asked by PDJT to throw a few shiny things out there to get some candidates for the 2018 “press awards”…
(Jurinalists: OH, look, it’s not just a squirrel, it’s a SHINY squirrel…)
I’m certain “Acoster” will get more than a dishonorable mention…
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YEP I listened again and Kelley is prepping the field for a BIG GIVE AWAY ON DACA folks
He basically said POTUS will change his mind at the flip of a moment
WTF
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Keep in mind, PDJT is our VSG and his own man…. many fools have suffered thinking they were smarter
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Cool VSG.
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No Dorothy, He won’t. Please pay attention
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I heard that PDJT changes his mind based on new information. That what makes him a VSG
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I love how everyone around Our POTUSVSG always claims that he is “evolving” in his views. I think he likes them to think that so they are unprepared when he smacks them upside the head with his original plan. Kind of a continual “October surprise”, if you know what I mean. Keep ’em guessing.
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Kelley is not going to throw away Trumps negotiating positions before the real negotiating starts. If he gave a list of demands, Dems would stop negotiating and Trump would get blamed for it all because no flexibility. This way, the Dems are the bad actors.
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He went on, after that, to explain how agents in the Border Patrol showed where there are some areas where a wall is either not necessary or not feasible, when hearing that I believe that is what Gen. Kelley meant by evolved.
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Except that When he was a candidate, PDJT said early on that there were places where the wall wasn’t needed because of the geography of the area.
This has been the game of the MSM lately, to make it seem that he is “softening” on the wall because it won’t be the full 2,000 miles along the border. He never said it would.
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He said “I am going to build a wall” he did not say I am going to build part of a wall, or a piece of a wall or a fence and a wall, he said “I am going to build a wall”.
This is not MSM softening, this was cos Kelley talking about President Trumps position!
This is not going to fly well, it sure does not for me!
And again, I am no troll.
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PDJT has always said as much himself through out the campaign, that is not PDJT evolving.
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I think WaPo was paraphrasing, and we know WaPo doesn’t do that well.
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Gen. Kelley never corrected it.
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Thank you Deborah, I was thinking the same thing.
We’re down to a 700 mile wall and General Kelly seems to still be evolving.
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MINE TOO
Time will tell but if POTUS fails on this he won’t need to be healthy for his 2nd term
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That’s just dumb…And just who exactly would you support over Trump.
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You sound like a troll
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If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it is probably a duck. Or troll, in this case.
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Oh, brother. Trump’s not going to waiver on his main campaign promise….that’s just silly.
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I honor Kelly’s service but when he said POTUS is evolving; red flags went up. Heard that term in the news this week and I am blanking.
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He also said he was the one that asked Trump to give congress 6 months to fix DACA. No good deed goes unpunished.
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It was a good move. Put the public onus on Congress not the President.
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I think he meant that the President evolves where it is needed. When he asks for opinions from Kelly and others, he weighs them in the balance and makes his own choice. But the evolving is in the listening and yes, sometimes in the changing of his own mind. Not a bad thing sometimes. Trump is wise and listens.
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Get REAL people ! The job of President is harder than campaigning for it. A hundredfold more information comes to him than he had as a candidate !!
He will hold to his core beliefs–America First. But with more available information, he may see different ways to get the result he wants. He NEVER said the wall would be 2000 miles, for example. (But detractors try to claim he is backtracking )
When one gets more information the thinking will evolve. Why should that cause “red flags”? I trust this man. Don’t you?
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yes, I trust him. and you posted the reason well.
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Yes Patriot – I trust this man. He is much more intelligent than these idiots believe.
another from NC
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Oh, no, if Trump fails on DACA, I won’t vote for him….
Oh, no, if Trump gives them amnesty, I won’t vote for him…
Oh, no, if Trump fails on Obamacare, I won’t vote for him…
Oh, no, if Trump caves on sending troops to Syria, I won’t vote for him….
etcetera, etcetera, etcetera….
I notice that those who do the most complaining are the same ones who do the least work.
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Sure, those of us who made thousands of phone calls through the campaign phone system and knocked on hundreds of doors and started in the primaries filling up the road ways with Trump signs are the very FIRST ones to complain …… sure! We sat on our butts while the campaign rolled around the country. I personally attended rallies, even hosting one of my own for local folks …. so of course paint us as “trolls” or “whatever”
If #DACA gets what the DEMS want with just a few hundred miles of a real border wall then I don’t care to say that Trump will lose my support and many others who I just talked to yesterday from the area that worked with me! Not one issue voters but if Trump choses to die on this hill of Dreamers vs Americans then we can die on a hill of finding someone else TIME will tell
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“Like all weak men he laid an exaggerated stress on not changing one’s mind.” W. Somerset Maugham — I’m so glad that John Kelly and PDJT is not afflicted with the curse of dogmatic certainty leading to inflexibility. p.s., I thought it was a great interview.
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I’ve met both general Kelly and general Mattis when I was in the marines the biggest take away from those encounters were that even though I was a lowly lance corporal they each took the time to listen to what I had to say about the new tech we were using and said they would use the input, seems to me that’s what great leaders do will take and use information from every source to help with decision making. So if they would take the time to listen to what I had to say id expect the same from potus another great leader to listen to either one to evolve his thinking may not change the out come but a more informed decision … even the same decision can be considered evolved if it’s based on more information
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Chrysler moving back to Michigan…….. from Mexico.
Chrysler investing 1 billion in Michigan.
Down payment on the wall.
By the time Trump is done, that damn wall is going to be paid for 10X over.
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Riiiight…..so Kelly knows PTrump has folded on DACA.
Brilliant move. No-one who voted for PTrump did so because of illegal aliens and open borders.
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squawk, squawk, the sky is falling!
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That’s not how i see it, PDJT hasn’t folded on anything – since when do we take anyone’s words for PDJT’s?
PDJT has always said if you don’t hear it from me, you didn’t hear it.
but Kelley gave me pause about Kelley tonight.
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He said basically that he could change POTUS mind on just about anything
The HUBRIS of this guy
and NOW he admits he was responsible for this whole freaking DACA extension
I DO NOT LIKE THIS GUY
He sees his job to steer Trump away from #MAGA IMHOO
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So you would rather have an administration in chaos with all the leaking or rather have someone like Kelly who makes sure the President is informed by all sides?
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That’s how I’m reading their comments. I heard General Kelly had a suspicion kitty look after phone call from Durban. As a good COS he did a little recon for PDJT. Very pleased he had our presidents back.
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Me too- I really liked hearing the version of those events!
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That is what heard: suspicious kitty after Dick Durban phone call.
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Yeah – bring back Reince Pribus.
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Back under your bridge troll!!
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Bless your heart.
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Walls work. Trump knows this. If Israel needs a wall there is no substitute. Sure, support people and technology are needed.
And Kelly knows this full well too.
So watch the words and language. Rivers and mountains don’t need walls, in themselves they are barriers. There is existing structures that need upgrade, that is an upgrade. Then there is the 800 miles that needs new wall.
Nothing new here, just word repackaging, it is Washington Speak to give the DhimmiRats cover. Will that work? Trump knows it won’t. Everyone here knows it won’t. The wall is death to uncontrolled immigration and Uniparty has pinned their strategy on it.
Kelly is trying to salvage this attempt at a compromise, but the Big Ugly is coming. These are just skirmishes so far. The prize is 2018 mid terms. Until the midterms are done this is all positioning.
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O/T Where is the fake news awards?
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I couldn’t find a video, but I did find this:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/17/president-trump-reveals-winners-his-fake-news-awards.html
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We need Brett to have a similar interview with Nuned
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I don’t get the impression that POTUS has folded on the wall regardless of what was said here. For the idiot questioner mentioned in the interview that was so concerned about his tweets, get over it!
There is one thing that General Kelly is spot on about is the fact that POTUS is his own boss. He’s not controlled by anyone. That’s one of the biggest reasons why he’s in the highest office in the land. The voters know this.
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Meh. The wall can be virtual for all I care. As long as the deportees stay deported.
We’ll probably annex Mexico anyway in fifty years.
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No. Wall means wall.
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Nonsense Frog, we need the wall because the invaders keep coming back over and over and over and over ……..
Get it?
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Huh? And give the next Dem or RINO prez a chance to flip a switch and “turn off ” the wall? No way in hell!!
If they want to return to open borders, they will have to summon to the political courage to tear down the MAGA wall. Again, NO WAY IN HELL!!
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Yes, Pam. Well said.
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What I got: Kelly is a brilliant patriot, a man of integrity, and it is understandable that Trump talks to him morning noon and night.
Like Trump, he is a truth-teller, committed to objective reality. He is not a yes man, which Trump knows. He is a wise and prudent man.
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Very true, I like Gen. Kelley and think he’s been great getting the WH staff in control and getting rid of the leakers. The fact that Bannon had an issue with him makes me like him and trust him even more.
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I think General Kelly has always said just what he thinks, without consideration for how it sounds or how others might interpret it. He’s a military general and tactfulness is not expected of military generals (except for Mad Dog Mattis who treats his troops with care and sometimes even the prisoners). As long as General Kelly takes care of his job and the President, I don’t care what he says.
IMHO, we should only listen to what comes out of the mouth of our VERY STABLE GENIUS President, Donald J. Trump.
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Remember that time KellyAnne Conway went on the air just before then candidate Trump went to Mexico and said he was softening on building the wall? Remember how that turned out?
I wonder what’s on Trump’s agenda here shortly that required General Kelly to go on air and send out this message?
Between the lines, folks. Got to read between the lines.
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The media painted President Trump incorrectly about the wall. “ Evoloving comes from the media reporting nuggets of truths. President Trump never indicated it would be a 2000 mile long of uninterrupted wall.
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Easily, one of the best interviews I have heard in a very long time. Brett did a fine job and he was not trying to grind any axes and he was not trying to hit a few points and then move to another interview. Brett, also let John Kelly talk without interruptions, a rare thing these days. I can’t remember a 17 minute interview recently, by anyone. Well done. John Kelly is the best man for that position bar none! He and our POTUS truly love our country. MAGA!
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Bret sucks, he always goes for the leftist comments instead of the ppl who voted for him. Bret’s a nevertrumper.
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Bent Bare.
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I was relieved not to hear a questions about $h!th0les
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I quit watching Bret Baier after Candidate Trump was nominated by the Rep. for President. It took me awhile, but I did realize fairly quickly that he was Never Trump and I haven’t watched his show since.
HOWEVER, unlike the showy “media personalities” like Sean, Laura, etc. Bret Baier knows how to conduct an interview. He asks questions. He listens to the answer. He is smart enough to be able to ask a pertinent follow up question. He has ability.
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Yea, you are right. But he allowed the Megyn/ 1st debate crap to taint his objectivity. I used to admire himnd especiallg his imterviewinv skills, but now… I won’t watch him. Turns my stomach. Don3. D9ne with Hannity, too.
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Gatekeeper
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Kelly is impressive. This President is managing to draw people with such high skill levels – a very hopeful sign for a positive outcome to his presidency. Kelly has a talent for reaching across that vast divide between Trump haters and Trump lovers, and sets an example for us of love and service to our country.
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He’s a true patriot. It really hit home for me how he took ownership of the importance of his role. Especially his comments about how if the President is misinformed and makes a decision on that bad info, that’s on him.
I sincerely believe he puts the United States first, and President Trump second (those two are separate).
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Kelly reiterated several times that if the President fails, the country fails.
I don’t know if that fact penetrates many thick MSM skulls, but maybe with repetition, it might. Appreciate Kelly being willing to take on the job. Not many people could do what he does
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I trust Kelly like I trust Pence. To the extent that PDJT is happy with them and they do his bidding, fine. But that’s about it.
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“To the extent that PDJT is happy with them and they do his bidding, fine. But that’s about it.”
Me too. Not complicated.
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President Trump WILL get the best immigration reform deal he can for our country. It won’t be exactly what YOU want, what the guy down the street wants, what Republicans want, what Democrats want, but it will be the best he can get for our country. I have no doubt and I am a realist who will not grab her toys and stomp off while throwing a temper tantrum. Kelly had a great interview, IMO.
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Correct. As Dr Gorka said, the President will not always provide perfect solutions, but he will always provide OPTIMAL solutions.
He puts the American people’s interests first and foremost. Gen. Kelly is no mug and neither is Trump. As long as PDJT is well informed, everything will be OK.
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🤝🤝🤝🤝
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@ Just_me, IMHO best comment on his thread.
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I think Trump respect Kelly’s opinion. Trump likes to challenge his own beliefs by hearing other points of view to be sure of his own convictions. Luckily for us Trump always ends up right back where he started which is knowing his 1st instinct was right
Hope I explained that right.
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To a “T.” Perfect.
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…this ain’t a regular job…
We are in the very best of hands 🙂
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General Kelly oozes gravitas.
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“In it for the long haul.”
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Wow. Nice to have a Four Star Marine General running the show. Ain’t know Durbin or Graham gonna sneak some B.S. Legislation past the president. Bravo!
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Wow a lot of downers here… I trust Trump. Until he does something that makes me doubt him I’m keeping the faith
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I think we have a lot of former Breitbarters moving over to CTH due to the sheer number of trolls over at BB. The negativity over there is overhwhelming at times, which caused me to remove my bookmark to the site.
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A 2000 mile border, with a 700 mile fence?
We must have a lot of natural barriers down there.
I’m glad that Mr. Trump is calling the shots instead of Kelly.
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Don’t trust Kelly. A bit too beholden to the Establishment. Not sure the President is being well served.
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Totally agree . commend his service but his sound bites here were for some “realist” thinking He went on this show for a reason I don’t want the best deal I want what was promised to the best that can be done and I want illegals OUT OUT OUT
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Ok, you’re a troll
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Yep.
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WTF, everybody that doesn’t fall in line with group-think is a troll?? Lets get off the righteous high horse shtik and be a little more inclusive.
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Maybe the group at the CTH all just think
they are never going to get tired of WINNING.
MAGA
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If the economy continues to boom, immigrants will be sought out, and hopefully screened so that we get the best and not gangsters and terrorists.
Trump is willing to aim for the impossible. I’m willing to hope for miracles under competent leadership.
I believe that Mexico’s corruption and crime is impossible, now.
However, wouldn’t it be great if we could clean up our own country first — and somehow through the power of example, it worked out that Mexico began to live up to Mexico’s potential? I wouldn’t mind a miracle — it could happen. Not under current conditions, but later
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Just like in the ME, only Mexicans will ever be able to cure the corruption in Mexico, and it will probably take a Revolution to do so. Which, in the end, would probably be better for the people than the non-stop random violence engaged in with impunity by the drug cabal and the gangs.
NO ONE from the outside can cure their problems.
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How many times have we heard, “Oh, he’s letting down his base, the sky is falling, the jobs are not coming back, the middle class is screwed again (the tax reform bill).” When the time comes and a bill is presented on his desk for his signature, we will know. I have much more faith in the man whom we elected POTUS, and unless he betrays us (sells out to globalist shills, and do you really see that happening?), I’m on board the Trump Train for the long haul.
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Kelly is the man. In my opinion.
This interview showed the tight control Kelly has in what and how he says things. I would not put anything past him, even a little bit of misinformation. He has showed his skill in getting rid of leaks and other problems in the White House. I do not think he controls the President in his decisions, other then keeping the President balanced. The President, by his nature, is very bright and likes to get things done, and Kelly probably moderates the speed, keeping it to Warp 1.
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I said this above and I will say it here. Kelly talks too much. Short answers only.
Baier starts controversy and is no friend of PDJT.
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Kelly is trying to resuscitate the DACA deal. That is all this is about. Ain’t gonna happen unless pigs start flying. Walls work, Kelly knows it, this is just Washington Speak.
The question is, what is Trump’s next move, because Trump has this planned down to a ‘T.’ This is not January 21, 2017.
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Odd that SD expresses no opinion on this.
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Goodness!
We’re left to our own devices.
It was a pretty straight forward interview.
Team Trump is offering every opportunity to get a deal (an acceptable deal) done.
Someone mentioned somewhere that President Trump was a negotiator.
I think he wrote a book about it~
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Sundance said “Great interview”.
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The “He’s evolved” was completely in the context of the wording he used on the campaign vs what border patrol has told him they need to defend the border. If I am wrong and JK is floating a trial balloon, I’ll be the first to vent my spleen to POTUS. But I think the context was clear.
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Could be the reason Kelly “appears” to talk too much. Trial ballons? Set up contolled controvercies by PDJT?
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Ive made it known where I stand. We’ll have to wait and see what legislation actually comes forward, everything else is just noise.
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So great to have the adults in charge. All of them.
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Call tomorrow and tell Speaker Ryan, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and House Republican Conference Chair Cathy McMorris Rodgers to bring HR 4760 to the floor for a vote.
This ends chain migration and the visa lottery, requires all employers to use E verify, strengthens interior enforcement and authorizes construction of additional fencing along the border.
Phone numbers are:
Ryan 202 225-0600
McCarthy 202 225-4000
Scalies 202 225-0197
McMorris Rodgers 202 225-5107
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fencing?
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Kelly smelled two rats on a sandbag mission. He knew damned well that pair weren’t giving Trump what he wanted to he hightailed it to the hill, confirmed that none of the other players were informed of the ‘deal’, then ensured Cotton and Perdue attended (along w/ DHS head). Graham and Durbin weren’t happy their meeting was expanded.
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And that is when the “tough language” ensued—–and we can be sure P45 wasn’t the only one using it !
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Kelly and Trump smacked down Graham and Linda will be feeling the pain for some time.
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What is Kelly talking about? POTUS as a candidate consistently said at his rallies that a wall is not needed across the entire border because of natural barriers. I know because I watched every rally either live or on replay.
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“POTUS as a candidate consistently said at his rallies that a wall is not needed across the entire border because of natural barriers. ”
Exactly. Kelly knows this too. It is just smoke cover for the DhimmiRats in case they want to give in and compromise. I don’t expect them to.
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If you listen, that message was for the Hispanic Caucus. “Look Trump is compromising. He doesn’t need a wall across the entire border any more.”
The $20 Billion is for a lot more than an 800 mile fence. 🙂
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I didn’t like how Kelly portrayed President Trump as always needing to be informed, like he has no knowledge of his own. I just got the impression that Kelly thought of Trump as someone who needed to be handled and guided and didn’t give him credit for his intelligence and foresight. This interview left me cold about Kelly, and I liked him before.
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Kelly is capable of smelling a setup. He smelled it with the Durbin fake compromise tale. Trump sees the deal as dead, Kelly is giving it a ‘Hail Mary’, but you can’t make a snake into a stick unless you are Moses.
I think ICE crackdown is the next step, it is starting anyway. Kelly is a kind hearted soul and was hoping for a less official act to force the DhimmisRats to do what is right.
“This interview left me cold about Kelly, and I liked him before.”
What you saw was Kelly bending words to prevent this. Words are not deeds, unless it is Trump. Kelly knows the deal is dead too, but it is too early to admit it.
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Yeah I think you’re right, ICE will be getting even busier than they are now.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/17/ice-plans-major-sweep-in-san-francisco-area-report-says.html
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Can you keep track of the massive bureaucracy and MAGA agenda without being informed??? or build large buildings or golf courses in Scotland…. leaders listen and then make INFORMED decisions.
“In a 2015 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, one senator noted that “The Federal Register indicates there are over 430 departments, agencies, and sub-agencies in the federal government.”
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That’s how a boss would’ve act…prudent to be informed at all times of every aspect of the business.
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Good interview! I agree with Sundance!
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Kelly said he went to talk to the Hispanic Caucus today. Did he go to speak to anyone representing the citizens who want our country protected from the invaders?
Pro-Open Borders Hispanic Caucus to Trump Administration: Stop Talking About ‘Chain Migration’
The pro-open borders Hispanic Caucus has “implored” President Trump’s administration to stop mentioning the process known as “chain migration,” whereby newly naturalized citizens are allowed under the current legal immigration system to bring an unlimited number of foreign relatives to the U.S.
A report by POLITICO revealed that members of the House Hispanic Caucus — which regularly advocates for more immigration to the U.S. despite its negative impact on America’s working and middle class — asked Trump’s Chief of Staff John Kelly to stop talking about chain migration, which has imported more than 9.3 million foreign nationals to the country since 2005.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/17/pro-open-borders-hispanic-caucus-to-trump-administration-stop-talking-about-chain-migration/
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And your point is??
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I’ve never wavered in my support for President Trump. **
He said he will build the wall. He will. That is all.
**Prayer, and ask for faith if the news media says things that are upsetting. Be happy 🙂
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What would Hillary do, if she had of stolen her way into office?
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I still have nightmares about that. Lord help me.
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Great interview with General Kelly. On the border wall: President Trump is the architect, General Kelly is the engineer. By 2020, it will be a big, beautiful and effective border wall. And when Secretary Ross and his team rework NAFTA, the USD value of Mexican pesos (20 million) will pay for it.
On the shithole meeting: General Kelly saw that Durbin and Graham had a losing immigration proposal, and gave President Trump the correct advice to allow the President to re-direct the negotiations toward an America First negotiating position. Durbin and Graham must have thought they could slip one by the President. The race card has been played all week by Durbin and Graham simply because President Trump up-ended their losing proposal. As General Kelly said, when President Trump succeeds, America succeeds.
Sundance and the Last Refuge is the only site where rational thinking resides these days. Thanks again.
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When the press and every smart Alec “expert” says the wall will cost 20B, then PT would of course say give me 20B then. Then, once appropriated, PT does what he does, e.g.Bowing, Lockheed, all of his projects, and so on.
Put another way, these congressmen aren’t more likely to fund a cheap wall – hell, they want the most expensive wall money can buy, its what they do.
For the record, what kind of jerk would ask JK if he was in it for the long haul? I mean, that is not a straightforward question. Bret, are you in this for the long haul, I mean how long ARE you going to put up with the stench of Murdock?
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My thoughts are that by making it known the wall would cost $20B, the politicians will chuckle and say let’s give him $10B – and most likely, our VSGPDJT has already put pencil to paper and arrived at only needing $8B so when it’s built he can say, under budget and ahead of schedule!
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Kelly is a man who protects his commanding officer and is above reproach.
Trump is a man who was classically trained, to always seek information, knowledge is power, Pareto Principle, always have 4 sources of info for major decision, always talk to your enemies, etc.
I can’t imagine a snot-nosed millennial, who got a job at the White House because of ‘daddy’s donations to the RNC, having the nerve to mouth off at General Kelly.
Can you imagine what he would do to someone who gave him the eye-roll?
Gheez he reminds me of my dad…… who was a Marine.
One look from dad and I would start moosetears.
Do they teach Marines how to do that in basic training?
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Hmmm. This is interesting — Pareto Principle: 80/20 rule explained
https://www.thebalance.com/pareto-s-principle-the-80-20-rule-2275148
“What It Means: The 80/20 Rule means that in any situation, 20 percent of the inputs or activities are responsible for 80 percent of the outcomes or results. In Pareto’s case, it meant 20 percent of the people owned 80 percent of the wealth. In Juran’s initial work applying the 80/20 rule to quality studies, he identified 20 percent of the defects causing 80 percent of the problems. Project Managers know that 20 percent of the work (the first 10 percent and the last 10 percent) consume 80 percent of the time and resources.
Other examples you may have encountered:
80% of our revenues are generated by 20% of our customers.
80% of our complaints come from 20% of our customers.
80% of our quality issues occur with 20% of our products.
Or:
20% of our contributors provide 80% of our funding.
20% of our employees are responsible for 80% of sick days.
20% of my ideas generate 80% of my traffic on my blog.”
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Never knew the name of the ‘principle’ before now.
Thank you Wondering.
The Pareto principle is applicable in many endeavors.
A very useful piece of information in all walks of life and business.
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Thank you for posting Wondering, my apologies for not doing so.
I’m a geek. It’s why Mulvaney is my hero. Too much time in biz school.
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20% of parishioners do 80% of the work and give 80% of the donations.
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I dunno if they teach it in Boot Camp, but definitely at D.I. School. 😉
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I see some wall hysteria is again filtering in all over places.
When Kelly said that PDJT is
“evolving on the wall.”
He meant that not every mile needs a tall wall. Some areas have natural border features and may not need a wall just a smaller fence and patrols on the other side of the natural wall feature.
Initially maybe many thought Trump meant every mile had to have a tall wall and the same wall. No that was never the case. A large wall is needed in the many open areas but a lesser fence can be placed in some other areas just behind a natural wall or barrier making human traffic hard.
So you wall the open high traffic areas first and then work back to lesser requirement areas.
Placing increased border security agents in all areas and all areas get increased surveillance setups.
2) About the President wanting to be kept informed regularly and “all the time” comments. The President wants and needs much good information flow and there are few real sources of good information. So that is a complement to Kelly that Trump is asking for good information from him. That means he trusts him well.
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Just don’t say the word “drones”. “Drones” means open border.
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Except Trump said this morning: “The Wall is the Wall, it has never changed or evolved from the first day I conceived of it.” Mr. Kelly said POTUS was evolving on the wall.
Words mean things and when I hear words from different reliable sources that seem discordant, I first try to reconcile them. I personally think everything is fine here, but it’s OK to question things (as opposed to assuming ill intent). I confess I did raise an eyebrow when I heard the interview, but that’s the extent of it.
I have always understood the “wall” to represent a barrier that stops or impedes the free-flow of illegals across our border. I think that is the bottom line and that’s the page everyone is on.
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we love trump our president and would gladly take a bullet for him
he listens to all in order to make the best decision for america and americans
his having 98% more information and input reaffirms his initial ideas to maga giving him a different approach or path to reach the same goals for our usa
he never gives up and never ever reveals his hand to the opposition
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Sage General Kelly!
Saving the entire planet from #CrazyTrump until ‘evolution’ & ‘flexibility’ ensues.
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I got several things out of the interview. 1. Bret Baier is still a little weasel for the deep state 2. General Kelly wants to seem important. He is important but not as important as he would like to be. 3 General Kelly says Mexico will not pay for the wall and then starts to explain how Mexico or Mexicans will pay for it. Of course Bret didn’t want to hear that. 4 Trumps has not changed his position on anything. A bunch of people want him to say that he is going to change his mind but he doesn’t. Of course there are issues where he will listen to the other side but that is not the same as changing his position in any major way. President Trump continues to orchestrate all the wannabes.
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You have obviously never read the Tsun Tzu: The Art of War book.
20 billion / 700 miles = $28,571,428 per mile.
4-lane highway, the cost per mile will run between $4 and $6 million in rural or suburban areas
It will probably cost a bit more, so lets double the average.
20 billion / 10 million = 2000 miles
Even assuming you need to spend 5 million a mile for additional infrastructure for access it is 1333 miles.
The neigh-bob Nellies of negativism make me neigh.
We have a friggin master builder of large scale projects at the helm.
UNDER BUDGET AND AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
From Wikipedia
Wolfman Rink: The rink was closed in 1980 for a proposed two years of renovations at $9.1 million. Six years after the problem-plagued work was still not completed by the city, Donald Trump persuaded Mayor Ed Koch to let him complete the work in four months at $3 million in order to have it open by the end of the year. Koch initially objected but later agreed. Trump finished the job in the promised four months at a final cost 25% below the budget and for no profit.[3][4] The city had originally planned to employ the resource-saving—but largely untested—chemical compound freon to generate ice, but instead time-proven brine was used. The rink reopened to the public on November 13, 1986
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Trump is a master persuader.
For all ye of little faith, I think your lives would be a whole lot less stressful if you read Scott Adams’ book, “Win Bigly,” to understand exactly how a master persuader works. It would save your blood pressure, I think, and probably your marriage too.
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Incredible. Trump is very well served by his crew. May it be ever thus.
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Good interview. I really think he is the right man to be standing next to the President every day as Chief of Staff. Dignified, serious and firm as h311.
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General Cuck. Fire this man.
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and it seems now that CuckKelly went into the HISPANIC meeting yesterday and floated a “deal” on DACA that does NOT include a stop to chain migration ….. this guy is a total globalist fraudster Even today the POTUS is having to correct him .. perhaps it’s time for Trump to think about a new chief of staff who does not try to MAKE policy himself
Also WHY is Pence not doing this work? Pence was supposed to be the big policy negotiater with the House and Senate and he is nowhere to be found
I did not ever hear of a chief of staff making policy
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PTrump better get this Kelly fellow under control.
Kelly’s condescending statements about PTrumps “evolution” are apparently rubbish…..see this….
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/18/donald-trump-corrects-john-kelly-the-wall-is-the-wall-it-has-never-changed-or-evolved/
Of course the implied and devastating omission is that the President did not say he hasn’t “evolved” on DACA illegal aliens.
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