November 20th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #305

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1,333 Responses to November 20th – 2017 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #305

  1. youme says:

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  2. And this is why Newsweek only sold for a $1.00

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    • LBB says:

      Of course headline done to mislead.

      “A charismatic leader knows how to speak to people in a way that will emotionally engage those people,” Smaller told Newsweek.

      Smaller is clear that he does not believe President Donald Trump is similar to the convicted killer, or that their followers have any shared beliefs or characteristics, but he did say we can look to the current president to see how language is used to form a bond with followers.

      “Our current president speaks in an emotional or affective way to large numbers of people in our country who feel a kind of alienation or disconnection from the government,” he said. “They feel very responded to and become his political base.”

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    • keebler AC says:

      Manson is Hollyweird territory and we know President Trump is no part of that ill set.

      Liked by 2 people

    • But couldn’t the same be said about Obama. Talk about a cult following.
      Even when presented the evidence of wrong doing they turn a blind eye.
      Or they justify it with some other crazy nonsense.

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  3. keebler AC says:

    Thank you President Trump and his press release on GOP judiciary appointments. Hurray to Kellyanne Conway for her broadcast this a.m.! Bannon, nowhere land and man on helping Judge Moore except hearsay support and more tabloid fodder about Luther. GOPe neither wanted Luther nor Moore. REMEMBER THIS!

    Please still get Tax Reform through NOW not later. If this poll is not accurate, the only chance to get tax reform is NOW BEFORE ALA.

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    • MAGAbear says:

      That hilarious, Keebler. GOPe spent about 30M to get Big Luther elected and you say he wasn’t their man? Amazing.

      You really need to start charging Bannon rent for that space he occupies inside your head.

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      • Chris says:

        There’s no convincing Keebler. He thinks that all the people against Strange have been brainwashed by Bannon. Like you said, the GOPe spent $30mm trying to get Luther the swamp RINO elected. The only thing he would have been good for is kissing McConnell’s feet and voting for DACA amnesty. I don’t understand all the animosity towards Bannon. He may not be perfect, but I truly think he is a MAGA advocate.

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      • keebler AC says:

        And you need to keep up with your reading…sadly


        • keebler AC says:

          outside of Breitbart who quotes Buzzfeed in NY on McMaster and MSM. Talk about getting lamestream tabloid news but third hand as your source of news – through Breitbart. If you believe all that hogwash about Luther than you probably believe President Trump is Schwarzenauger 2.0 without Bannon too.


          • MAGAbear says:

            Question: did the Turtles pac spend 30M to get Strange elected?

            Question: is the Turtle a GOPe swamp creature?

            The answers are yes and yes.

            I for one would have voted for Moore, Strange, Brooks, Pittman and probably any generic republican over this democrat clown running against them. Pretty easy chose to make.

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            • keebler AC says:

              Both Bannon and McConnell are enemies of President Trump’s MAGA. Both would probably like to see impeachment. Cernovich, Prosobiec, Coulter are all Bannon mouthpieces who are despised by real Trump supporters. Enemy calling another enemy when both are enemies draws no conclusion. Cancel them out, what have we left? President Trump. He endorsed Luther. Luther is not McConnell as much as Bannon would have you believe. Where did this farcical conclusion come from? Breitbarf. Tabloid stuff that made the world in 2 days and circled 100 times. It’s dreary listening to this garbage day in, day out about Javanka and Luther without substance.


    • sejmon says:

      Go JUDGE MOORE Go !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • deqwik2 says:

      I don’t think that poll is right. The race is close & everyday I hear some people say they have decided not to vote. GOP voters are disgusted by this whole show. Moore promised he had info to prove the WaPo story was a smear but he hasn’t produced any proof yet. He’s fighting back against Allred but he’s not fighting back against WaPo women.


      • keebler AC says:

        I went to look at the poll again and saw it claims to cover certain cities. Would that make a difference?

        The poll limited participating IP addresses to one entry and had 2,741 participants. The Tribune covers the cities of Trussville, Clay, Pinson, Center Point, Argo and Springville in Jefferson and St. Clair counties.

        I was impressed with the sample size of nearly 3000 but it does say non-scientific. The breakdown is 46.5 percent of Republican, 33 percent Independent, and 22 percent said Democrat.


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  5. TrueNorthSeeker says:

    RIP to our Border Patrol agent Martinez. 🙏
    I really don’t understand how this happened. What “rules of engagement ” are they working under that they did not shoot these subhumans? How do they get close enough to crush Agent Martinez’s skull with rocks?
    I don’t understand how this happened. Something is terribly wrong with this.

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    • TrueNorthSeeker says:

      Also prayers for the badly injured (yet unnamed) agent who was a partner to Agent Martinez and came to his aid. May he survive his injuries and make a complete recovery.

      Liked by 9 people

    • WSB says:

      My very same question. This is infuriating!


    • Zennalou says:

      Latest update and it is…..
      A U.S. official with knowledge of the investigation into death of a border patrol agent says the surviving agent who radioed in for help doesn’t remember what happened.

      The official, who was briefed on the investigation but is not authorized to speak publicly and spoke on the condition of anonymity, said Monday the late Rogelio Martinez was found at the bottom of a 14-foot culvert and that investigators believe he may have fallen. The official said the incident happened after dark in an area is known for drug activity and where agents often look for drugs in culverts.

      A spokeswoman for the FBI, which is leading the investigation, said Monday in a statement that both agents were found in a culvert near Van Horn, Texas, and that both had traumatic head injuries.

      Spokeswoman Jeanette Harper said results of Martinez’s autopsy are pending.


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  8. youme says:

    Google should be a public utility. What will the censor next?

    Liked by 2 people

  9. Howie says:

    Guess I go back to the start. Start again, lookin’ it up….report on the way.

    Liked by 1 person

  10. Howie says:

    Moore will win.

    Liked by 3 people

  11. Cee says:

    President Donald Trump’s Accomplishment List

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  12. Howie says:

    “There must be some way out of here,”
    Said the joker to the thief,
    “There’s too much confusion, I can’t get no relief,
    Businessmen, they drink my wine, plough men dig my earth,
    None of them along the line know what any of it is worth”
    “No reason to get excited,” the thief, he kindly spoke,
    “There are many here among us now,
    Who feel that life is but a joke,
    But you and I, we’ve been through that, and this is not our fate,
    So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late”
    All along the Watchtower, Princes kept the view,
    While all the women came and went, barefoot servants too,
    Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl,
    Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl
    “There must be some way out of here,”
    “There must be some way out of here”

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  13. nor'easter says:

    Food for thought:

    Any charges that come from an improperly or illegally issued or executed FISA warrant will be dismissed.

    Liked by 4 people

  14. Howie says:

    OK. Here I go. I do not understand it. I have always been tuned in to the music an the fun. How come they all going the wrong way? I just can not figger it out?


    • Howie says:

      The only thing I see from the few friends I have still alive is they always stoned. I never liked it myself bit they do. Ni problemo for me they good people.

      Liked by 1 person

      • 🍺Gunny says:

        Says something about gettin high….
        If you don’t see what you want…maybe sometimes then you don’t
        Leave your mind alone, ….just get high…
        Allman Brothers


  15. Ivehadit says:

    One thing that gets missed, imho, regarding what the Clinton’s (and their enablers, most especially the media) did to the country for 25 + years is the continual boundary violations from their lies perpetrated on us. We had to endure their acting out their dysfunctions on us continually. The effects of this is literally sickening and we were all under that umbrella for a very long time. All of this creates deep anger, a natural reaction, because no one wants to be violated. We suffered having to watch all the Clinton’s and the enablers attacks and lies. The harmful effects of all this cannot be understated.


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  16. nwtex says:

    T-38 Talon Crashes in Texas, Pilot’s Status Unknown
    21 Nov 2017

    A U.S. Air Force trainer jet crashed in Texas late Monday afternoon and the status of the pilot is unknown, the service said.

    The T-38 Talon, assigned to Laughlin Air Force Base, crashed at approximately 4:00 p.m. local time roughly 15 miles northwest of the base in Del Rio, Texas, the base said in a release Monday.

    The status and condition of the pilot were unknown. Witnesses reported seeing a parachute and pilot descending to the ground.

    Laughlin emergency response personnel and local responders were on scene to assist in recovery efforts, officials said following the crash…

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  17. LBB says:

    Nafta news. Tomorrow last day of round 5.

    “Canada and Mexico will rebuff the United States over its demand for tougher NAFTA automotive content rules, top officials said on Monday as negotiations to renew the treaty bogged down with only a few months to go.”

    “Alarmed U.S. politicians and industry groups have started to put concerted pressure on the White House not to take drastic moves they say would cause job losses.

    “Support for NAFTA from the American private sector, and also members of Congress, and even Republican governors, is starting to get very vocal, which we view very positively,” said Moises Kalach, head of the international negotiating arm of Mexico’s CCE business lobby.

    Jeff Leal, farm minister for the powerful Canadian province of Ontario, said in an interview he believed the increasingly vocal U.S. protests would help those who wanted to keep NAFTA.”

    Also mishap at union led Canadian owned gold mine in Mexico ( that alone sounds volatile)

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    • tazz2293 says:

      “Alarmed U.S. politicians and industry groups have started to put concerted pressure on the White House not to take drastic moves they say would cause job losses.”

      Those politicians and industry groups sure didn’t care when American manufacturing plants shuttered their doors in America, when the working blue collar middle class lost millions of jobs because of NAFTA.

      Screw those politicians and the CoC.

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  18. patrickhenrycensored says:

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  19. LBB says:

    Trial started today for the inauguration rioters. Do they need to single out each individuals acts, or would they be guilty as a group? Could set a precedent now that we are trying to follow rule of law again. Praying for a solid outcome.

    Snip (WP)
    “During the opening minutes of the trial of six people charged with rioting during President Trump’s inauguration, a D.C. prosecutor described the scene as storefronts were smashed and a car set afire.

    Assistant U.S. Attorney Jennifer Kerkhoff told jurors about a cafe owner whose shop windows were shattered by rocks, forcing her to close her business for days. She described how a Starbucks employee and customers took cover as that shop’s windows were smashed, sending shards of glass across the floors. And she told them about a police officer whose wrist was broken when protesters pelted him with bricks, hammers and crowbars.

    Though there is no evidence the defendants caused any of that damage directly, Kerkhoff said, the government considers the entire group of protesters to be responsible.”

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  20. William F Buckley's Ghost says:

    ICE OFFICIALS WARN CITY to set criminals aliens free before agents arrive:
    ICE Officers under the Salt Lake City Field Office of ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) allege that they are under secret orders requiring them to provide the names and addresses of criminals and fugitives they seek to arrest so that prior notice can be given to city officials prior to ICE Officers entering their city and making an arrest.

    ICE Officers allege that they typically have to wait approximately 7 days before receiving “permission” to enter the city — Park City, Utah. Since the new policy was put in place by ICE managers, ICE Officers allege that everyone they attempt to arrest is already gone – criminals and fugitives are “magically disappearing.”

    ICE Officers allege that high-ranking city officials, to include elected law enforcement officials, “freaked out” when ICE Officers made completely safe, lawful arrests within city limits leading to complaints from the city and a “dirty back room deal” between ICE managers and city officials. ICE Officers believe knowledge of the deal goes all the way to ICE headquarters in Washington, D.C.

    [ICE Officers Forced To Warn City Officials Before Making Arrests; Criminals And Fugitives ‘Magically Disappear’ Before They Can Be Arrested, JIC Report, November 13, 2017]

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  21. NJF says:

    It seems Lyin’ Ryan also has some explaining to do.

    Liked by 4 people

  22. Katherine McCoun says:

    Another call for help: What happened on 9/7 that made our national debt jump from $19,844,586,961,607 to $20,162,176,797,904 overnight? That was an expensive 24 hours! And it has been climbing rapidly ever since. 1/20 it was $19,947,304,555 and went slowly down but since 9/7 it has climbed rapidly to $20,534,019,362,990 as of today. That is $15,000,000,000,000 more than 17 yrs ago!!!!

    What happened 9/7 and how did I miss such a change?

    I am going by this web site:


  23. Katherine McCoun says:

    I have been reading about Bill Kristol’s father, the so called “god father of the neo conservative movement” in an attempt to understand the neo cons, the GOP, recent world events and presidential history. I have written some of what I have found as well as my questions. It was a Long post & not directly related to the Trump Administration/Presidential open thread so I put it over on the general open thread. If anyone can shed insight, help is appreciated! I feel like I still have so much to learn to understand today’s politics!

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  24. trumptyear says:

    “IRS admitted targeting … Lois Lerner …is fighting the unsealing of depositions…saying tapes and transcripts of depositions they gave in a court case this year must remain sealed in perpetuity, or else they could spur an enraged public to retaliate.”

    “In other words, Lerner & Company fear further information about their targeting could make them targets for those they targeted? The “I” in “IRS” should now stand for “Irony.”

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    • WSB says:

      I saw on tonight that Lerner is attempting to seal all of her work records, forever.

      Which, if true, would lead me to believe that she was the instrument allowing 20 or more inferences of the William Clinton Foundation to operate without any inquiry.

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  25. Sandra-VA says:

    Looks like @chiIIum has been taken down by twitter… which is a travesty! That account did a LOT of research and linking of facts.

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  26. Nchadwick says:

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  27. trumptyear says:

    Congress Has Different Rules for Sexual Harassment

    “Congress makes its own rules about the handling of sexual complaints against members and staff, passing laws exempting it from practices that apply to other employers. …ACCUSERS may file lawsuits only if they first agree to go through MONTHS of counseling and mediation”


    • iswhatitis says:

      I admit, I’m not going to click and read that – but, even with that ignorance planted on my sleeve – I don’t grok how “congress” can prevent a citizen from filing a lawsuit or how they can “force” said person to undergo the “counseling and mediation” first to get “permission” from them (and how come the same rule doesn’t apply to the President? Glorious Alred seems to threaten POTUS lawsuits every other day).

      I’m sure there are good legal reasons; but it just seems odd..


  28. MaineCoon says:

    Go vote for which turkey President Trump should pardon tomorrow🦃🦃


  29. Deborah @UnTamedInSD says:

    Lavar Ball is a FREAK!

    Liked by 1 person

  30. sunnydaze says:

    re. one of Moore’s accusers: Her stepson and now, an old ex-boyfreind, say they don’t believe her.


  31. John Conyers accused of sexual harassment.
    Link is above


  32. bulwarker says:

    Another day, another Democrat sex predator revealed.

    Liked by 1 person

  33. Sandra-VA says:

    This is NOT GOOD!! All those MS-13 roundups… gotta protect the poor little thugs according to this judge:


  34. Ivehadit says:

    Anybody remember this article by Robin of Berkley at American Thinker in April of 2010:
    The Rape of America?
    It came to mind tonight in lieu of more Uranium One revelations…here is a part of it-
    “We also have the economic rapes, the constant shrieks of “Gimme, gimme.” Give me what you have because I want it. Whether it’s the iPod torn from your ear, or a big chunk of your income, or your standard of living, no matter. I want it, I demand it, give it to me.

    Or the intrusions into our very bodies by ObamaCare’s Biggest of Big Brothers. Our medical records, our personal information, our physician/patient relationship, our DNA — they want it, so they will take it from us.

    And now that the Left has finally appropriated our health care and our student loans, our banks and newspapers and automobile companies, are they happy? Satisfied? Grateful, for God’s sake? ”

    Add our national security to the list. So much of our country was harmed, imho, during the o years…

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  35. sunnydaze says:

    This one’s disgusting. Here’s a woman who actually *did* try to do something at the time it happened, not 20 years later.

    Unfortunately, the person she reported it to (Andrew Cuomo, NY Gov.) did NOTHING.

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  36. Bull Durham says:

    Who would have thought that merely sex harassment would be so devastating to the scumbags of the Left?

    We haven’t even got to the true depravity yet.


  37. When blacks and / or liberals speak to me of “the man” holding them back or about how a black person is at a significant disadvantage in America I use the “Japanese example” in talking with them.

    I tell them to remember back to the end of WWII and how America hated the Japanese….as a race…..we called them all sorts of derogatory names, we took all of the American Japanese in the US and put them in internment camps, took away all of their businesses and possessions. To buy something from Japan meant it was a piece of crap not worth anything.
    We hated them, despised them….to marry one of them was unheard of….

    The Japanese as a whole didn’t wallow in self misery they got up, put their big boy britches on and worked hard ….. they didn’t stay on the government plantation that was created for them they worked until they succeeded and within a very short period of time they excelled….they became known for their hard work, their intelligence and to marry a Japanese person wasn’t taboo…..and all of this was accomplished within 30 years….
    Stop and think about that…by 1974 the Japanese industrial machine was at a par with ours.
    We were closing auto factories because we couldn’t compete with theirs….we were buying Japanese machinery because it was cheaper and more advanced than ours.

    Now compare that with the self absorbed negroes that complain that someone in their family tree was a slave….a slave 200 to 300 years ago….or that they can’t get a job when they don’t have to compete in the same arena as others…..minority hiring practices give them the job over meritocracy based applicants.
    The “man” wasn’t holding them back….they were….they preferred to stay on welfare and live on the government plantation that was created for them by democrats.

    And don’t even think about using the argument that we rebuilt Japan because we’ve spent more trillions of $$$$ on wiping out poverty since the 60’s and actually have a larger percentage of people still in poverty.

    Just something to think about…my argument shuts them up every time.

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